@@cadettrev762 As greedy as they are, it would also be a really hard game to translate over compared to TCGs or even board games. I want it, but I don't see it really happening
@@benjaminsousa7657 It was really hard for me to translate into a videogame when I had a go for my A-level Computing Project, but I made some quite decent headway on the idea with the few manhours I got into it. I haven't a doubt that even a small company with more time and funding could do a MUCH better job than me. So yeah, harder to do then a cardgame, but not THAT much harder than most board games. Probably way easier to create than a modern shooter or something like that. The fact that GW won't let people bypass buying their models is the real major reason it won't happen.
@@benjaminsousa7657 It's been done already in tabletop simulator. The problem is licensing. The software system itself could be built from the ground up in a year or two which is about half what most triple A games spend in development. The limiting factor is GW not being able to sell inexcusably overpriced plastic.
I actually disagree. I think the BIGGEST benefit of this is simply the ability to analyze your games. The best way to improve at any game. Be it Chess, or Catan, or even Warhammer is by taking the time to analyze your decisions and where you can have done better. Assuming you care about improving that is.
This would be great for people that don't have local access to opponent's. But, we just need a full digital conversion for online play. Lots of people just don't have people to play against or no time to haul models 30m away to play for 4+hours and then cleanup and haul it all back.
@@WillPeterson I quite like Gladius, it's a hex based 4X game, and the combat mechanics are mostly hidden from view, but I'm convinced they have a lot in common with the tabletop ruleset.
What would be cool is if the info from the game could go into some additional software that generates a short realtime version of the game with turns occuring simultaneously weapons firing and deaths being animated and such!
there was an Old HALO board game where you would shoot eachother's figures on a custom made map and then it would play an animation on TV... HALO FLASHPOINT**
Putting aside costs of development and all that, of course, if they get the tech to be good and accurate enough on the "face recognition" part, doing what you say is pretty easy overall. Of course, bringing it back into the conversation, the costs of development (code, animations, models, etc) would be quite high. You want to know what I can see being done with a realtime imaging AI getting whatever you have on the table right? Imagine this: You print some generic battlemat with bright distinctive lines marking where some building or ruin is, you set up everything at home, and your opponent does the same at theirs. Then you both play physically at each of your homes. And the app matches battlemats, splices the videos, and shows a single table where you both are playing. If it can recognize LOS and distances correctly, it can tell you if you're putting anything on a place it could not stand (a wall, another model, etc). You can now play with somebody else on the other side of the planet, realtime, with your physical models, instead of TTS
I think it could be really interesting to use AI and simulation for game/rule/model/pts testing. Similarly, it would be way easier and cheaper to theorize about new models successfully fitting into army gaps if you could plug a blank-thing into a test scenario and draw from known traits, etc., to see how it fits in “live” gameplay without having to have your product team create the model first.
I actually think this type of program would be most useful from the data/analytics side of things. Imagine being able to playtest a list for several games and then be able to generate a report based on the data collected- and I don't just mean simple things like wins/loss, score totals, or which secondaries you scored. You could see what percentage of the time your midboard unit was on the objective, how much of that time they were controlling it, and how much damage they received per turn on average. You could run the numbers for your damage unit and see if they made their points back and if they were above, on, or below the statistical wound output vs their selected target. You could see what units scored the most points over the course of your sample size- maybe those Jump-Pack Intercessors aren't really scoring a ton of secondary points after all... I see tons of possibilities, my main concern is the extra hoops you have to jump through to run the software. Moving down to a 2D gameboard is a dealbreaker for me, but even setting that aside, getting the equipment set up is a big ask. I am unsure whether there would be interest among the playerbase given the limitations of what the program offers currently.
A propper learning generative AI would actually be a blessing for the game. Once it fully "figured out" the game, it can be used to balance it fairly throughout.
To me it sounds a lot like trying to find a middle point between the tabletop game as it is, and the idea of just coding up a full Warhammer 40K simulator as a videogame. Not like how it's done in Tabletop Simulator, but automating all the things that can be automated. I guess it's because there is no way that GW would let the simulator idea happen properly, but this middleground seems to not only strike a poor balance of the advantages and disadvantages of the two aforementioned methods of playing, but introduces a few problems of its own. I can see it being taken up in niche circles, and maybe that's a step towards the Warhammer Simulator that would suit me so well, but I'm not convinced it'll go any further, and there's still a long way to go even if it does.
One possibility would for a setup like this to be put above tournament tables which would enable betting on games similar to sports betting. That's what these tracking systems are used for in basketball and football. I don't see this being used by individuals at a hobby shop.
I have dislexia and it makes playing warhammer a bit difficult. I have a hard time reading the dice results and remembering all the different numbers for stats and wound threashholds and all that. I get through it but I'm painfully slow. I know it makes people I play with frustrated but mostly they are patient with me so I appreciate that. ANYTHING that can automate the book keeping and mechanic crunch would be awesome for me. I get not wanting to introduce more tech to the table but... I would definitely feel WAY more confident I could actually get through a game in a reasonable amount of time with this.
i see this working for a tournament or for battlereports, just like some MTG channels have they cameras autodetect cards, as for normal play, this is too much of a hassle to be worth it, probably even worse than a VR headset
The current kickstarter looks interesting, but it's focusing only on single player with an automated opponent. The whole idea of being able to play online between two players would be awesome! The cameras at each location track terrain and units from both sides and handle processing rules and such, that's where I'd love to see this. Right now, the subscription model for this kills it for me.
It'd probably work better with a better rules system or a rules system written for it. It seems like the fiddly moments when people play around with cohesion or line of sight, tucking models around or sneaking them into places would be squirrelly. Maybe if they used movement trays instead of 25-40mm individual bases.
Wargamming will never go fully online. A lot of players play for the hobby more than they do for the actual gameplay, and those who have invested into models will not switch to online easily. I think its a good alternative, but I still think online communities generally feel more toxic and less respectful than an irl community, which is one of the reasons I play 40k.
While probably not a thing for me, i think its great that the hobby spawns this level of creativity and looks like something i would want to see succed. Would be funny to use AI oponents to punish cheaters and bad sportmanship players. A coloseum.
This is something that interests me, my local club went silent and it's too much of a hassle to go others currently. And I don't always have the energy to deal with rude players or people who don't respect personal space
Speaking as a software engineer, I'm seeing a lot of big problems here. Three big ones: 1. A lot of big claims are made about solving problems that we have playing 40k, like measuring, LOS etc. Obviously 40k is a game where precision is important. Can this product actually deliver that precision? Could really use a demo showing this actually working. 2. 40k is a massively complicated game. The idea that one guy is going to create an application for playing simulated digital games of 40k ON TOP OF building this digital platform is frankly laughable. Maybe a version that has no stratagems or special rules. 3. The biggest problem in my mind: Why does this exist? What is the use case? Why do I need an elaborate camera setup with AI to tell me if I am in range of an objective marker? I have neoprene objective markers for that. It's cool that it can read dice... but why? For what purpose? Am I really going to roll my dice and then look at my laptop screen to tell me what I rolled? I already know how to read dice haha. Even if you ignore the big setup required, think about how to use every feature you need to introduce a screen between you and your tabletop. That's a massive amount of friction for what seems like little gain. No one plays 40k with an ipad in front of their face. I need to be gaining something incredible to make that worth it.
I tried to design something similar and there three big issues imho : - People want to roll some dice... -You don't play 40K to have screens everywhere and rely on electronics... -If you have such a complicated system why would you use 40K rules (especially 10th)? The rules have been overly simplified to make the game faster if algorithms are doing all the calculations etc why would you use 10th rules?
Look at something like Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous where you either need a significant background in playing 3.5/Pathfinder or dozens of hours of trial and error to really understand all the rules and nuances of the system. If Pathfinder can be ported to PC, then Warhammer wouldn't even be difficult. It wouldn't even be a big project, mostly just data entry to pick up all the weird niche rules. We even have the models and art already done and ready to be ported in. Think about it for a moment: Final Fantasy Tactics was WAY more complex than Warhammer 40k is now... and they did that on a Playstation One in 1997. Hell, Tactics Ogre is more complicated than Warhammer 40k... and that came out for the Super Nintendo at a WHOPPING 1.2mb. Everything in 40k is just D6 rolls. return rand() % 6 + 1; There. I just coded it. Got 30 attacks? Call that 30 times. make 20 wound rolls? Call it 20 more times. Need to make 5 saves? Call it 5 times. Need to charge? Call it twice and add them. Also while this is obviously a gross oversimplification... it's really not much more complicated that this.
@henrychurch6062 The issue is not the complexity of the attack formulas. It's a question of user experience (UX). Rolling a dice sided die in code is easy. Creating a product that is a faithful recreation of a game that is designed to be played on a tabletop between two in person humans is not. Think about your typical turn in 40k. Now think about how you would preform that turn in a digital interface. And think about it IN DETAIL. How do you trigger stratagems that are supposed to be reactions to player actions, such as overwatch? Does the game need to pause every time after your opponent makes a move to see if you want to overwatch? How does it handle squad coherency? How do I slow roll saves if some of my unit is in cover and some is not? What about the micro movement of the pile in and consolidate steps of fighting? These are not impossible problems to handle, but there of dozens if not hundreds of micro problems like this to solve that go way beyond "roll 10 attacks hit, wound and save" Magic Arena has an entire team and it is far from perfect. One guy is going to make a digital version on the side of his real project, which is the camera itself?
@@asbrozek64 We already have things in other video games. It doesn't require some in depth highly reactive AI. It's just scripting. How would you control things like when to use strategems? Use a stack. Like Magic the Gathering. This works just fine. And if you think about it IN DETAIL... it will work just fine, in literally every situation. Attack Hit rolled (Press [space] to pass) Attack Wounds rolled (Press [space] to pass) And instead of pressing space, you can select from a list of your applicable strategems or actions at each pause... just like on tabletop. And this simple stack interface solves every single issue you brought up. Again, it solves EVERY SINGLE ISSUE you brought up. This is only complicated because you want it to be complicated. You're bringing up 'problems' that were solved back in the 90's.
Had this rough idea for awhile, but with a projector as well, so it can project the range of any unit you point to for movement/shooting, to as well as roughly help determine LOS around terrain bases for units not inside it and needing the up close look themselves. Combine with voice activation so a player can point to a unit, say that unit will shoot and point to a target unit and state that units name, get little circles around each and confirm, and get quick auto resolved values if you want. This seems like a first step in that direction, definitely not there yet, or quite yet planning to be, but the future versions of it, or someone elses iteration inspired by it might be that.
This feels aggressively close to the dream sold in 2013 that is Star Citizen. A passionate creator telling us all about all the technology he is going to pioneer in order for us to enjoy a game to its fullest extent. As someone who backs Star Citizen, I appreciate the passion and want to see this succeed. But I must point out that that project is still in an early alpha stage after 11 years, and caution potential backers that buying into this dream, while possibly noble and likely something that will eventually exist, could be something you are waiting a veeeeery long time to actually experience in its entirety. This is not a suggestion that people shouldn't back, only an attempt to temper expectations for those who do.
That would be great for small games maybe 500-1000 points with no terain for fast and easy rules, dice, range calculations, The BIG thing would be making Campaigns and logging Xp/kills/upgrades on your units.
It really does look great and I’m sure this would be useful for friends that want to play each other if they live far away or if someone you plan a game with can’t make it to the hobby shops
Much like, TTS this will have its fans, but the whole reason I got into the hobby was to meet people in person. I do hope it's successful for those who want it.
This software will definitely have its uses and audience. Either for those who can’t afford the hobby or don’t care for the modelling side. Or who just want to test a new list. But my friends and I got into Wargamimg because we wanted something we could do together that wasn’t just sitting our butts at a computer. So I don’t think it’ll be the future of Wargamming. I mean people still play chess in person
Not too fussed about having an AI to play against, but the Augmented reality stuff looks cool. Instantly measuring ranges/exclusion zones would be great, maybe be able to show key characteristics for an enemy unit rather than constantly asking what the toughness or armour save would be.
I’d love if they made this feature so that you could play games over king distance as well! My brother lives on the opposite side of the country and I’d love to be able to play against him like he’s standing on the other side!
It’s an interesting idea. I applaud the development. I think there’s a push towards warhammer of people trying to come away from Screens certainly I hear a lot of parents encouraging kids for that reason I’m not sure I’d like to bring screens more into my games for this reason than I need to, but as I say hats off to the inventor and all the best with it
I always thought AR would be a great usage of technology to use features like 3d blast markers (good for Necromuda) and status effects. It also opens up the possibility of keeping hidden information about the tabletop, laying traps and concealed units without the awkward 'write down the terrain piece the trap is on' solution games usually end up using.
I've been thinking about this kind of product for a while, but I know I don't have the skills to build it myself. I personally think the 1st phase should just to be to concentrate on a tracker/helper for competitive play, with other modes and the AI coming after the system is bullet proof. I'd also suggest a deal with a major tournament group for both finance, and to help speed up comp play in tournaments (and get rid of cheating). I'd also suggest a webcam option, to allow better cameras to be used, so that static overhead streaming cameras can also be used to feed the system rather than having to double up. This would also allow the program to be used to feed stats/data for live streams. I'm probably going to jump into the kickstarter, but if I'm honest, I think this might be too big of a project for such a small team.
I wonder if it would be possible to link this technolgy with some sort of haptic feedback peripheral to assist visually impaired players in accessing IRL Wargames. I imagine just having a mate explain things to them might ve easier of course, if less efficient...
Very interesting software and something I'd be interested in for many reasons. Is a good sign he was agreeable to you listing pros and cons as well, shows he's not being silly about it. Interesting tech and cool seeing it in its infancy b
Sorry to the creator, but I think this is dead in the water. What it currently offers doesn't solve a problem that players have. And it doesn't really create an opportunity that players, who are so inclined, dont already enjoy as part of their hobby. This needed a fully functioning AI opponent to be the selling point before it went to kickstarter. And even then, I agree with Auspex T - GW will never allow this program to use their rule set for a commerical purpose that they don't own or control and are unlikely to embrace an AI replacing a real player/customer.
Agreed. It's an interesting concept, but feels like it won't offer enough to be worthwhile for most without the AI opponent as an option. I'm not even talking about $-cost, but time and "fiddlyness" cost for little benefit. I wish the guy well, and it would be nice to see him succeed and develop the idea into a more complete product that offers benefits to more people. But, as they say: "I'm out".
This person needs someone who knows product to help him build and sell this. Honestly the first thing I thought when I saw this was Scam. A bunch of AI art? AI voices? If this is real, they need a real person giving a demo of what this product is and how it is used. It seems like a bunch of pie in the sky features that it CAN do, but why? Like why do I need a second screen to tell me what I rolled on a die? I know how to read dice. What is the use case? And I agree, if you are saying you can play AI warhammer, you gotta show that in action. Like a real demo.
I think, what players need the most is an AI opponent which they can training with. One of the many problems with 40k Is that, for some players, Is really difficult to find people near home to play with. So when they go to a tournament they are totally unprepared against armies they never ever played with. That implies you must attend many many tournaments in order to have a grasp of pretty much every army in 40k. Not everyone Is a totally hardcore tournament player, but for those ones Is a problem if they don't have enought local players
I would love to have the automated battle reports (stop-motion style) for all games. Maybe with the computer labeling the units and guessing what happened (this unit charged that etc). During the game, my main gripe is measuring things out constantly (and catching people moving too optimistically). Would be great to have an automatic measuring aid somehow (maybe with some lasers for indication). But seems very difficult to make in a hassle-free way. I wouldn't want to automate rolling the dice. I feel like that is one of the things most people enjoy.
I just want a pc game that I can buy an army and play people all over the world. They could digitize everything. Imagine buying a starting 500pt army and then adding to that over time like the actual game but only on PC. I think that would do really well and have a long game life due to being able to own multiple armies in game.
Literally all I want is a digital version of 40k, like a video game. Think baldurs gate and DnD, simplifed for video game reasons, but I still want to play irl. Its just impossoble to play your friends across the globe except for on tabletop simulator, which is janky as hell. Would make it so much easier to get into, since you can try other armies without spending $1,000 just to try it
This feels like it’s filled with potential issues. The main thing I can think of is that it this isn’t touted as a 40K program and is a meant to be a framework for other games too (at least eventually). I’m dubious it’ll be flexible enough here for that. One camera will always have issues with depth and won’t work for models under terrain say in a building which is quite common as a terrain piece. It’d probably struggle with coming down from a height too. Finally it has to keep up with GWs constant rules updates. Every rules errata or tournament rule set needs to be available on this tool. I don’t want to be a negative person here as it’s super easy to come up with problems and often they are solvable. The issue is doing it cheaply, reliably, and in a reasonable timeframe. Driverless cars actually are a really similar problem to this. With a stupid amount of money being thrown at that problem it still isn’t commercialised properly even all these years later. This ignores the fact that it’s not really needed for most friendly play though could be nice to have as an option at some board game cafes or tournaments to both help someone learn the rules / make sure people keep to them. It does feel like the classic tech over engineer life idea.
Well, if you look at Magic the Gathering, Dungeons and Dragons, and even Chess... online gaming is certainly going to be the future. The only part that would be hard to port into a tabletop engine would be a way for GW to extract money from it. What can they really offer when you're playing online games, attending virtual tournaments, and painting up 3D printed miniatures. And how would GW even check if your models are 'official' GW models or not when you're on the other side of the country or planet. That said, I think AR would be a better way to do this than cameras.
Im surprised WG didnt made a virtual Warhammer tabletop yet for people who arent able play it rl. Build like MTG for example. You can buy virtual miniatures (for a lower prices than real miniatures ofc), painted already (I bet WG would make you pay for virtual paint lol), virtual boards and stuff to create a battlefield. etc
As intellectually interesting as this is- I can't help feel like this is answering a question nobody is asking (or fixing a problem nobody has). Then again, I remember thinking that "texting" was a technology dead end and nobody would use it when it first came out....
Ar on a kinda toy already works, and Nintendo ambibo are starters for this. Have an app, recognises your model after pre loading into app sounds fantastic. Or just simply frame your model and it picks up which model it is and gives you the data sheet for that model isn't that far fetched
I suspect the "play against AI opponent" is going to run afoul of legal departments. It's turning a ruleset into a game engine, which normally requires a rights agreement with the company that puts out the rules.
I really hope not, while i do love games like Battlesector, a full on Wargame simulator would kill tabletop. It happened to Magic with Magic Arena. I rather own my figurines than pay for digital figurines ....
Seems very interesting especilay for remote gaming, it reminds me of Spelltable which MTG players use to play remotely with their physical cards. The AI opponent seem like a cool way of playing a game when you have no one else to play. One issue is I feel like auto rolling dice is not a great selling point, A lot of people that I know play the game because rolling dice is fun (me included). Without the ability to physically roll your own dice it would remove some of the fun with the game.
So basically, you still need all the physical mini's you would usually need, then you need to spend more money on camera stands, camera or additional phone/s purely for footage capture, a subscription to this 'product' (which by the way is 79/yr for the "basic" and 250/yr for the "pro", whatever the f**k that means), all for the ability to say "oh that's cool". Tabletop simulator is a one-time 40 buck purchase: why on earth would I waste money for this? other than looking at stats, there is zero upside for casual play. I can see major tournaments getting behind this for stat tracking, etc., but without GW's blessing (i.e. not being shot down in a fiery ball of 'Hey! don't touch our IP!'), this project is dead in the water..... I also have a burning hatred for Kickstarter projects that fully fund their ideas through donation - prove your concept first, show me how it's good/better/usable than alternatives and then I'll donate. Your asking people to bet on the consumers whims that this project will take off...
I dunno, seems cool but what I really want is just an app that gives me what I need to do in real time so I don't need to scour the rule books and codices every turn
Finally, a practical use for AI... Aside from allowing people in vastly different areas to play together, I could see this being helpful for 'practicing' gameplay, either for newer players trying to get comfortable with the game(s), or those wanting to try different strategies or army lists (even if only against an AI opponent). I would think a big challenge would be that both players would need the exact same terrain placed in the exact same places on the table. GW might actually be an ally in this, since they could produce 'official standard' terrain pieces with predefined sizes, shapes, etc.. Mo money. I wonder if this could be better developed/tested with Kill Team, Space Hulk, or one of the other smaller games, just to get the kinks out before attacking 40K. This is seriously the first use of AI that interests me, and I hope it's successful... :)
I dont think anything will change, there is already video games that do gaming much much better, people play warhammer because they want the dice, the minis and all thats goes with it.
I'd actually play if I had some sort of easy system to play digitally, but this seems more meant for higher end tournament types. Seems a whole lot of set up and added technical knowledge to ensure all is operating properly, which defeats the purpose of using it for say just your average 500-1k point game between two casual friends. I still wish GW would allow some devs to make an actual official tabletop simulator type of game, so I could just buy the software and test rules and generally play online without needing to hike half my models across the city on my only day off. I know the tablesim currently has ability to set it all up, but I dont even know where to begin with it, and an official game for this purpose would make things so much simpler. However I realize GW will probably never do this, as they are afraid it would eat into their physical model sales if people could 'easily' play 40k digitally. The battle sector games being as close as they will let it get, and those are obviously severely lacking.
I figure this is as good of a place as any to mention: If anyone is willing to show me how to set up tabletop sim to pay 40k, I'd be up for playing all the time.
Not useful for a standard wargammers. Would be great for clubs and leagues to track stats, make battle reports for a newsletter, things like that. An Ai opponent seems like a bad pipe dream instead focus on making it easy to set up, recognize and track units well, allow for custom stats to track so you can use it for multiple systems and it would be a great piece of software for organizers and clubs to enhance the experience for their members and participants.
Remember, when Wargaming first started up, there was a neutral "referee" who decided what the results of things were. Sounds like this is kinda meant to do something similar eventually. But I'm not a huge fan of modern "AI" nonsense.
I play wargaming for the social Aspect of spending physical times with people into same as hobby as me. It’s one of the few pastimes where gender is not relevant in playing / hanging out / meeting new people and I don’t feel Hassled . Online is ok but it will never replace the feel excitement and just joy of being around other persons physically .. Well unless you are socially awkward and can’t get out so online can part resolve that.
I can see this being a really cool way of broadcasting tournaments but I could never see GW going for it because it would be way too progressive and convenient for them, at least until they "come up with the idea themselves" and release their own version. With the right presenting, marketing and publishing it could make for a really cool pseudo-televised third party tournament with watch back features like faceit. As for the AI opponent, it would be difficult but no more difficult than setting up any other RTS or turn based AI aside from the need to make it modular enough that you can update army and model rules as needed
Well at least I don't have to worry about Dave dropping his cellphone on my guardsmen trying to show me a cat meme.
Meme was funny AF though
Obligatory "The phone broke before the guard did."
Son, guardsmen are trained to die.
Now if it was a grimnyr…
@@FatManWithNoPlansI laughed. Damnit
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I can see gw already selling tournament legal cameras and camera stands.
with special disposable batteries that are manufactured in a way that makes them only available from GW
Monthly subscription
@@mattbaxter688fuck me…. They for sure will unless laws get passed to stop that sort of thing… really doubt it’s gonna happen though
I thought this was going to be about some alternative to Tabletop Simulator
Same. A digital recreation of 40k, kinda like MTG arena, would be great.
But GW can’t sell models through that, so it won’t happen
@@cadettrev762 As greedy as they are, it would also be a really hard game to translate over compared to TCGs or even board games.
I want it, but I don't see it really happening
@@benjaminsousa7657 It was really hard for me to translate into a videogame when I had a go for my A-level Computing Project, but I made some quite decent headway on the idea with the few manhours I got into it. I haven't a doubt that even a small company with more time and funding could do a MUCH better job than me.
So yeah, harder to do then a cardgame, but not THAT much harder than most board games. Probably way easier to create than a modern shooter or something like that. The fact that GW won't let people bypass buying their models is the real major reason it won't happen.
@@benjaminsousa7657 It's been done already in tabletop simulator. The problem is licensing. The software system itself could be built from the ground up in a year or two which is about half what most triple A games spend in development. The limiting factor is GW not being able to sell inexcusably overpriced plastic.
@@effindave6909 i mean they could instead sell inexcusably overpriced microtransactions.
At least I won't have to smell my opponent
Tournaments just need to have strict showering rules lol.
@@Amdorsometimes it's the clothes. It's in the fibre.
@@warp5p1d3r6then wash the clothes or wear cologne/perfume.
Yeah I dunno about this one. It's a cool idea, but it seems like there are too many points of failure for little gain.
I actually disagree.
I think the BIGGEST benefit of this is simply the ability to analyze your games.
The best way to improve at any game. Be it Chess, or Catan, or even Warhammer is by taking the time to analyze your decisions and where you can have done better.
Assuming you care about improving that is.
This would be great for people that don't have local access to opponent's. But, we just need a full digital conversion for online play. Lots of people just don't have people to play against or no time to haul models 30m away to play for 4+hours and then cleanup and haul it all back.
The problem is, if you want to play a video game at home you can do way better than the 40K ruleset.
honest question, what's the best alternative you've seen? most similar vibe to warhammer, but fully embracing the capabilities of video games?
@@WillPeterson Battlesector.
Any of the Dawn of War games. Dark crusade holds up even 20 years later and it actually got me into 40k
@@WillPeterson I quite like Gladius, it's a hex based 4X game, and the combat mechanics are mostly hidden from view, but I'm convinced they have a lot in common with the tabletop ruleset.
@@WillPeterson gladius is good but a major issue is that companies really haven’t made many RTS games in decades
What would be cool is if the info from the game could go into some additional software that generates a short realtime version of the game with turns occuring simultaneously weapons firing and deaths being animated and such!
there was an Old HALO board game where you would shoot eachother's figures on a custom made map and then it would play an animation on TV... HALO FLASHPOINT**
@@UniquelyAwful Halo Flashpoint isn't old, it comes out in November 2024
@@LoganGrimmnar ah it was first thing I saw when I looked up halo tabletop game. I’m thinking of “Halo Interactive Strategy Game” lmao
Putting aside costs of development and all that, of course, if they get the tech to be good and accurate enough on the "face recognition" part, doing what you say is pretty easy overall.
Of course, bringing it back into the conversation, the costs of development (code, animations, models, etc) would be quite high.
You want to know what I can see being done with a realtime imaging AI getting whatever you have on the table right?
Imagine this: You print some generic battlemat with bright distinctive lines marking where some building or ruin is, you set up everything at home, and your opponent does the same at theirs. Then you both play physically at each of your homes. And the app matches battlemats, splices the videos, and shows a single table where you both are playing.
If it can recognize LOS and distances correctly, it can tell you if you're putting anything on a place it could not stand (a wall, another model, etc).
You can now play with somebody else on the other side of the planet, realtime, with your physical models, instead of TTS
I really dont want more screentime- i want less..
I think it could be really interesting to use AI and simulation for game/rule/model/pts testing.
Similarly, it would be way easier and cheaper to theorize about new models successfully fitting into army gaps if you could plug a blank-thing into a test scenario and draw from known traits, etc., to see how it fits in “live” gameplay without having to have your product team create the model first.
I actually think this type of program would be most useful from the data/analytics side of things. Imagine being able to playtest a list for several games and then be able to generate a report based on the data collected- and I don't just mean simple things like wins/loss, score totals, or which secondaries you scored. You could see what percentage of the time your midboard unit was on the objective, how much of that time they were controlling it, and how much damage they received per turn on average. You could run the numbers for your damage unit and see if they made their points back and if they were above, on, or below the statistical wound output vs their selected target. You could see what units scored the most points over the course of your sample size- maybe those Jump-Pack Intercessors aren't really scoring a ton of secondary points after all...
I see tons of possibilities, my main concern is the extra hoops you have to jump through to run the software. Moving down to a 2D gameboard is a dealbreaker for me, but even setting that aside, getting the equipment set up is a big ask. I am unsure whether there would be interest among the playerbase given the limitations of what the program offers currently.
A propper learning generative AI would actually be a blessing for the game. Once it fully "figured out" the game, it can be used to balance it fairly throughout.
To me it sounds a lot like trying to find a middle point between the tabletop game as it is, and the idea of just coding up a full Warhammer 40K simulator as a videogame. Not like how it's done in Tabletop Simulator, but automating all the things that can be automated. I guess it's because there is no way that GW would let the simulator idea happen properly, but this middleground seems to not only strike a poor balance of the advantages and disadvantages of the two aforementioned methods of playing, but introduces a few problems of its own. I can see it being taken up in niche circles, and maybe that's a step towards the Warhammer Simulator that would suit me so well, but I'm not convinced it'll go any further, and there's still a long way to go even if it does.
One possibility would for a setup like this to be put above tournament tables which would enable betting on games similar to sports betting. That's what these tracking systems are used for in basketball and football. I don't see this being used by individuals at a hobby shop.
I have dislexia and it makes playing warhammer a bit difficult. I have a hard time reading the dice results and remembering all the different numbers for stats and wound threashholds and all that. I get through it but I'm painfully slow. I know it makes people I play with frustrated but mostly they are patient with me so I appreciate that. ANYTHING that can automate the book keeping and mechanic crunch would be awesome for me. I get not wanting to introduce more tech to the table but... I would definitely feel WAY more confident I could actually get through a game in a reasonable amount of time with this.
i see this working for a tournament or for battlereports, just like some MTG channels have they cameras autodetect cards, as for normal play, this is too much of a hassle to be worth it, probably even worse than a VR headset
Just want computer opponents on TTS
The current kickstarter looks interesting, but it's focusing only on single player with an automated opponent. The whole idea of being able to play online between two players would be awesome! The cameras at each location track terrain and units from both sides and handle processing rules and such, that's where I'd love to see this. Right now, the subscription model for this kills it for me.
It'd probably work better with a better rules system or a rules system written for it. It seems like the fiddly moments when people play around with cohesion or line of sight, tucking models around or sneaking them into places would be squirrelly. Maybe if they used movement trays instead of 25-40mm individual bases.
Wargamming will never go fully online. A lot of players play for the hobby more than they do for the actual gameplay, and those who have invested into models will not switch to online easily. I think its a good alternative, but I still think online communities generally feel more toxic and less respectful than an irl community, which is one of the reasons I play 40k.
While probably not a thing for me, i think its great that the hobby spawns this level of creativity and looks like something i would want to see succed.
Would be funny to use AI oponents to punish cheaters and bad sportmanship players. A coloseum.
So glad someone is already making good progress here, i am just about to start an almost identical project.
This is something that interests me, my local club went silent and it's too much of a hassle to go others currently. And I don't always have the energy to deal with rude players or people who don't respect personal space
Speaking as a software engineer, I'm seeing a lot of big problems here. Three big ones:
1. A lot of big claims are made about solving problems that we have playing 40k, like measuring, LOS etc. Obviously 40k is a game where precision is important. Can this product actually deliver that precision? Could really use a demo showing this actually working.
2. 40k is a massively complicated game. The idea that one guy is going to create an application for playing simulated digital games of 40k ON TOP OF building this digital platform is frankly laughable. Maybe a version that has no stratagems or special rules.
3. The biggest problem in my mind: Why does this exist? What is the use case? Why do I need an elaborate camera setup with AI to tell me if I am in range of an objective marker? I have neoprene objective markers for that. It's cool that it can read dice... but why? For what purpose? Am I really going to roll my dice and then look at my laptop screen to tell me what I rolled? I already know how to read dice haha. Even if you ignore the big setup required, think about how to use every feature you need to introduce a screen between you and your tabletop. That's a massive amount of friction for what seems like little gain. No one plays 40k with an ipad in front of their face. I need to be gaining something incredible to make that worth it.
Integrating it into some kind of augmented reality setup is a possible direction it could go.
I tried to design something similar and there three big issues imho :
- People want to roll some dice...
-You don't play 40K to have screens everywhere and rely on electronics...
-If you have such a complicated system why would you use 40K rules (especially 10th)? The rules have been overly simplified to make the game faster if algorithms are doing all the calculations etc why would you use 10th rules?
Look at something like Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous where you either need a significant background in playing 3.5/Pathfinder or dozens of hours of trial and error to really understand all the rules and nuances of the system.
If Pathfinder can be ported to PC, then Warhammer wouldn't even be difficult. It wouldn't even be a big project, mostly just data entry to pick up all the weird niche rules. We even have the models and art already done and ready to be ported in.
Think about it for a moment: Final Fantasy Tactics was WAY more complex than Warhammer 40k is now... and they did that on a Playstation One in 1997. Hell, Tactics Ogre is more complicated than Warhammer 40k... and that came out for the Super Nintendo at a WHOPPING 1.2mb.
Everything in 40k is just D6 rolls.
return rand() % 6 + 1;
There. I just coded it. Got 30 attacks? Call that 30 times. make 20 wound rolls? Call it 20 more times. Need to make 5 saves? Call it 5 times. Need to charge? Call it twice and add them.
Also while this is obviously a gross oversimplification... it's really not much more complicated that this.
@henrychurch6062 The issue is not the complexity of the attack formulas. It's a question of user experience (UX). Rolling a dice sided die in code is easy. Creating a product that is a faithful recreation of a game that is designed to be played on a tabletop between two in person humans is not. Think about your typical turn in 40k. Now think about how you would preform that turn in a digital interface. And think about it IN DETAIL. How do you trigger stratagems that are supposed to be reactions to player actions, such as overwatch? Does the game need to pause every time after your opponent makes a move to see if you want to overwatch? How does it handle squad coherency? How do I slow roll saves if some of my unit is in cover and some is not? What about the micro movement of the pile in and consolidate steps of fighting?
These are not impossible problems to handle, but there of dozens if not hundreds of micro problems like this to solve that go way beyond "roll 10 attacks hit, wound and save"
Magic Arena has an entire team and it is far from perfect. One guy is going to make a digital version on the side of his real project, which is the camera itself?
@@asbrozek64 We already have things in other video games. It doesn't require some in depth highly reactive AI. It's just scripting.
How would you control things like when to use strategems? Use a stack. Like Magic the Gathering. This works just fine. And if you think about it IN DETAIL... it will work just fine, in literally every situation.
Attack Hit rolled
(Press [space] to pass)
Attack Wounds rolled
(Press [space] to pass)
And instead of pressing space, you can select from a list of your applicable strategems or actions at each pause... just like on tabletop.
And this simple stack interface solves every single issue you brought up. Again, it solves EVERY SINGLE ISSUE you brought up.
This is only complicated because you want it to be complicated. You're bringing up 'problems' that were solved back in the 90's.
This sounds pretty cool. I still haven't played my first game, but not having to travel sounds amazing.
Had this rough idea for awhile, but with a projector as well, so it can project the range of any unit you point to for movement/shooting, to as well as roughly help determine LOS around terrain bases for units not inside it and needing the up close look themselves. Combine with voice activation so a player can point to a unit, say that unit will shoot and point to a target unit and state that units name, get little circles around each and confirm, and get quick auto resolved values if you want.
This seems like a first step in that direction, definitely not there yet, or quite yet planning to be, but the future versions of it, or someone elses iteration inspired by it might be that.
This feels aggressively close to the dream sold in 2013 that is Star Citizen. A passionate creator telling us all about all the technology he is going to pioneer in order for us to enjoy a game to its fullest extent. As someone who backs Star Citizen, I appreciate the passion and want to see this succeed. But I must point out that that project is still in an early alpha stage after 11 years, and caution potential backers that buying into this dream, while possibly noble and likely something that will eventually exist, could be something you are waiting a veeeeery long time to actually experience in its entirety.
This is not a suggestion that people shouldn't back, only an attempt to temper expectations for those who do.
52" above the battlefield... that is 4'4" (or for those of you who do not speak construction short hand , 4 feet 4 inches)
That would be great for small games maybe 500-1000 points with no terain for fast and easy rules, dice, range calculations, The BIG thing would be making Campaigns and logging Xp/kills/upgrades on your units.
having something like this feed into tabletop sim could be really cool
It really does look great and I’m sure this would be useful for friends that want to play each other if they live far away or if someone you plan a game with can’t make it to the hobby shops
Will 100% be getting this. I already scrim against myself as my fellow players are all busy with work and family
Much like, TTS this will have its fans, but the whole reason I got into the hobby was to meet people in person. I do hope it's successful for those who want it.
This software will definitely have its uses and audience. Either for those who can’t afford the hobby or don’t care for the modelling side. Or who just want to test a new list. But my friends and I got into Wargamimg because we wanted something we could do together that wasn’t just sitting our butts at a computer. So I don’t think it’ll be the future of Wargamming. I mean people still play chess in person
Not too fussed about having an AI to play against, but the Augmented reality stuff looks cool.
Instantly measuring ranges/exclusion zones would be great, maybe be able to show key characteristics for an enemy unit rather than constantly asking what the toughness or armour save would be.
I’d love if they made this feature so that you could play games over king distance as well! My brother lives on the opposite side of the country and I’d love to be able to play against him like he’s standing on the other side!
It’s an interesting idea. I applaud the development. I think there’s a push towards warhammer of people trying to come away from
Screens certainly I hear a lot of parents encouraging kids for that reason I’m not sure I’d like to bring screens more into my games for this reason than I need to, but as I say hats off to the inventor and all the best with it
that would be something for me ^^
I always thought AR would be a great usage of technology to use features like 3d blast markers (good for Necromuda) and status effects. It also opens up the possibility of keeping hidden information about the tabletop, laying traps and concealed units without the awkward 'write down the terrain piece the trap is on' solution games usually end up using.
I've been thinking about this kind of product for a while, but I know I don't have the skills to build it myself. I personally think the 1st phase should just to be to concentrate on a tracker/helper for competitive play, with other modes and the AI coming after the system is bullet proof. I'd also suggest a deal with a major tournament group for both finance, and to help speed up comp play in tournaments (and get rid of cheating).
I'd also suggest a webcam option, to allow better cameras to be used, so that static overhead streaming cameras can also be used to feed the system rather than having to double up. This would also allow the program to be used to feed stats/data for live streams.
I'm probably going to jump into the kickstarter, but if I'm honest, I think this might be too big of a project for such a small team.
I'd definitively like stats and ai. But part of warhammer is rolling dice and building your army. Thats cool
I wonder if it would be possible to link this technolgy with some sort of haptic feedback peripheral to assist visually impaired players in accessing IRL Wargames.
I imagine just having a mate explain things to them might ve easier of course, if less efficient...
Very interesting software and something I'd be interested in for many reasons. Is a good sign he was agreeable to you listing pros and cons as well, shows he's not being silly about it. Interesting tech and cool seeing it in its infancy b
I don’t see it taking off. I think what people really want is an upgraded tabletop simulator for online games.
Sorry to the creator, but I think this is dead in the water. What it currently offers doesn't solve a problem that players have. And it doesn't really create an opportunity that players, who are so inclined, dont already enjoy as part of their hobby.
This needed a fully functioning AI opponent to be the selling point before it went to kickstarter. And even then, I agree with Auspex T - GW will never allow this program to use their rule set for a commerical purpose that they don't own or control and are unlikely to embrace an AI replacing a real player/customer.
Agreed. It's an interesting concept, but feels like it won't offer enough to be worthwhile for most without the AI opponent as an option. I'm not even talking about $-cost, but time and "fiddlyness" cost for little benefit.
I wish the guy well, and it would be nice to see him succeed and develop the idea into a more complete product that offers benefits to more people. But, as they say: "I'm out".
This person needs someone who knows product to help him build and sell this. Honestly the first thing I thought when I saw this was Scam. A bunch of AI art? AI voices?
If this is real, they need a real person giving a demo of what this product is and how it is used. It seems like a bunch of pie in the sky features that it CAN do, but why? Like why do I need a second screen to tell me what I rolled on a die? I know how to read dice. What is the use case? And I agree, if you are saying you can play AI warhammer, you gotta show that in action. Like a real demo.
I think, what players need the most is an AI opponent which they can training with. One of the many problems with 40k Is that, for some players, Is really difficult to find people near home to play with. So when they go to a tournament they are totally unprepared against armies they never ever played with. That implies you must attend many many tournaments in order to have a grasp of pretty much every army in 40k. Not everyone Is a totally hardcore tournament player, but for those ones Is a problem if they don't have enought local players
@@alessiogiuffrida6172 Agreed. Anyone who comes up with a genuine, workable solution for this could clean up.
Personally at that point I’d rather just play a video game designed to be a good video game.
Really hyped for this! Would love to practice in the comfort of my home
I would love to have the automated battle reports (stop-motion style) for all games. Maybe with the computer labeling the units and guessing what happened (this unit charged that etc).
During the game, my main gripe is measuring things out constantly (and catching people moving too optimistically). Would be great to have an automatic measuring aid somehow (maybe with some lasers for indication). But seems very difficult to make in a hassle-free way.
I wouldn't want to automate rolling the dice. I feel like that is one of the things most people enjoy.
"one glimpse at the Dark Future of Wargaming" seems more adequate :)
I just want a pc game that I can buy an army and play people all over the world. They could digitize everything. Imagine buying a starting 500pt army and then adding to that over time like the actual game but only on PC. I think that would do really well and have a long game life due to being able to own multiple armies in game.
Literally all I want is a digital version of 40k, like a video game. Think baldurs gate and DnD, simplifed for video game reasons, but I still want to play irl. Its just impossoble to play your friends across the globe except for on tabletop simulator, which is janky as hell. Would make it so much easier to get into, since you can try other armies without spending $1,000 just to try it
This feels like it’s filled with potential issues. The main thing I can think of is that it this isn’t touted as a 40K program and is a meant to be a framework for other games too (at least eventually). I’m dubious it’ll be flexible enough here for that.
One camera will always have issues with depth and won’t work for models under terrain say in a building which is quite common as a terrain piece. It’d probably struggle with coming down from a height too.
Finally it has to keep up with GWs constant rules updates. Every rules errata or tournament rule set needs to be available on this tool.
I don’t want to be a negative person here as it’s super easy to come up with problems and often they are solvable. The issue is doing it cheaply, reliably, and in a reasonable timeframe. Driverless cars actually are a really similar problem to this. With a stupid amount of money being thrown at that problem it still isn’t commercialised properly even all these years later.
This ignores the fact that it’s not really needed for most friendly play though could be nice to have as an option at some board game cafes or tournaments to both help someone learn the rules / make sure people keep to them. It does feel like the classic tech over engineer life idea.
Well, if you look at Magic the Gathering, Dungeons and Dragons, and even Chess... online gaming is certainly going to be the future. The only part that would be hard to port into a tabletop engine would be a way for GW to extract money from it. What can they really offer when you're playing online games, attending virtual tournaments, and painting up 3D printed miniatures.
And how would GW even check if your models are 'official' GW models or not when you're on the other side of the country or planet.
That said, I think AR would be a better way to do this than cameras.
Lowkey theres already a game like this for free on steam, but its warhammer fantasy. Its called Sovl. Really good
Im surprised WG didnt made a virtual Warhammer tabletop yet for people who arent able play it rl. Build like MTG for example. You can buy virtual miniatures (for a lower prices than real miniatures ofc), painted already (I bet WG would make you pay for virtual paint lol), virtual boards and stuff to create a battlefield. etc
As intellectually interesting as this is- I can't help feel like this is answering a question nobody is asking (or fixing a problem nobody has).
Then again, I remember thinking that "texting" was a technology dead end and nobody would use it when it first came out....
Ar on a kinda toy already works, and Nintendo ambibo are starters for this. Have an app, recognises your model after pre loading into app sounds fantastic. Or just simply frame your model and it picks up which model it is and gives you the data sheet for that model isn't that far fetched
I have a very difficult time believing this will come to fruition.
I want my wargames less complex, not more. You already need an app for the convoluted missions in 10th!
Interesting idea but I think it’s a bit ahead of its time. I do commend the concept and the innovation though! More power to the Devs!
Why does the face on the computer screen looks like Kirito doing Starburst Stream
I’d prefer a colossal hologram field. YuGiOh really knew how to be economical and practical.
Battle fleet and similar systems would be great with this
new phobia acquired, heavy duty camera crashing onto the table dead center
I suspect the "play against AI opponent" is going to run afoul of legal departments. It's turning a ruleset into a game engine, which normally requires a rights agreement with the company that puts out the rules.
This would be great for big events
if they finally develop a decent AI that can play warhammer, they can run a 1000+ sims and use the results to properly BALANCE the game!!!
I really hope not, while i do love games like Battlesector, a full on Wargame simulator would kill tabletop.
It happened to Magic with Magic Arena. I rather own my figurines than pay for digital figurines ....
This! MTG has become incredibly optimised as the tools get better and better.
40K is still very casual and amature, losing that would hurt.
@@eps200 but paper magic died
Seems very interesting especilay for remote gaming, it reminds me of Spelltable which MTG players use to play remotely with their physical cards. The AI opponent seem like a cool way of playing a game when you have no one else to play. One issue is I feel like auto rolling dice is not a great selling point, A lot of people that I know play the game because rolling dice is fun (me included). Without the ability to physically roll your own dice it would remove some of the fun with the game.
So basically, you still need all the physical mini's you would usually need, then you need to spend more money on camera stands, camera or additional phone/s purely for footage capture, a subscription to this 'product' (which by the way is 79/yr for the "basic" and 250/yr for the "pro", whatever the f**k that means), all for the ability to say "oh that's cool".
Tabletop simulator is a one-time 40 buck purchase: why on earth would I waste money for this? other than looking at stats, there is zero upside for casual play. I can see major tournaments getting behind this for stat tracking, etc., but without GW's blessing (i.e. not being shot down in a fiery ball of 'Hey! don't touch our IP!'), this project is dead in the water.....
I also have a burning hatred for Kickstarter projects that fully fund their ideas through donation - prove your concept first, show me how it's good/better/usable than alternatives and then I'll donate. Your asking people to bet on the consumers whims that this project will take off...
I think that's really neat for people who don't have locals. I just really need to leave the house more often not less XD
on one hand I hope it succeeds, on the other - another subscription
I dunno, seems cool but what I really want is just an app that gives me what I need to do in real time so I don't need to scour the rule books and codices every turn
Computers are gonna rules lawyer you SO hard, "You do not have line of sight Dave, obviously you are blind"
I suspect poor hammer's horde mode could be done super well with an AI.
Lets be real
They'd never allow it
But a xcom 2 type of game with table top 40k would be the first Billion dollar game
I can SMELL the C&D from here. I can TASTE it.
For the AI stuff, Poorhammer's Horde Mode could work well
I have always maintained that GW will never, ever allow a one-to-one 40K game, because they would never sell another mini ever again.
Tracking distances alone would be helpful and hasten games.
to add on they might add voice comands which could make thing faster
This sounds like a good thing for streamers and a massive faff for normal humans.
You mean Wh40k the Final Liberation ?... 🤔😏
Gods I loved that game so much...
@@Daemonik
me too even though long range weapons just suck most of the time...
Finally, a practical use for AI...
Aside from allowing people in vastly different areas to play together, I could see this being helpful for 'practicing' gameplay, either for newer players trying to get comfortable with the game(s), or those wanting to try different strategies or army lists (even if only against an AI opponent).
I would think a big challenge would be that both players would need the exact same terrain placed in the exact same places on the table. GW might actually be an ally in this, since they could produce 'official standard' terrain pieces with predefined sizes, shapes, etc.. Mo money.
I wonder if this could be better developed/tested with Kill Team, Space Hulk, or one of the other smaller games, just to get the kinks out before attacking 40K. This is seriously the first use of AI that interests me, and I hope it's successful... :)
Always thought this was a great idea
So there's actually already a whole TTS discord and setup for this.
Just Google TTS Warhammer and it'll take you to the discord. The discord has all the other processes. They even do AOS.
the whole point of playing a tabletop game is to get AWAY from screens for a little while
NNNOOOOOO!! Warhammer is the only thing that gets me and mates together.
Cute idea but probably not all there yet.
Just develop easy to use scanning software that allows us to scan our minis in to use in TT simulator.
This could be amazing
I dont think anything will change, there is already video games that do gaming much much better, people play warhammer because they want the dice, the minis and all thats goes with it.
I'd actually play if I had some sort of easy system to play digitally, but this seems more meant for higher end tournament types. Seems a whole lot of set up and added technical knowledge to ensure all is operating properly, which defeats the purpose of using it for say just your average 500-1k point game between two casual friends.
I still wish GW would allow some devs to make an actual official tabletop simulator type of game, so I could just buy the software and test rules and generally play online without needing to hike half my models across the city on my only day off. I know the tablesim currently has ability to set it all up, but I dont even know where to begin with it, and an official game for this purpose would make things so much simpler. However I realize GW will probably never do this, as they are afraid it would eat into their physical model sales if people could 'easily' play 40k digitally. The battle sector games being as close as they will let it get, and those are obviously severely lacking.
I figure this is as good of a place as any to mention: If anyone is willing to show me how to set up tabletop sim to pay 40k, I'd be up for playing all the time.
it is out and it is called starcraft II
Not useful for a standard wargammers. Would be great for clubs and leagues to track stats, make battle reports for a newsletter, things like that. An Ai opponent seems like a bad pipe dream instead focus on making it easy to set up, recognize and track units well, allow for custom stats to track so you can use it for multiple systems and it would be a great piece of software for organizers and clubs to enhance the experience for their members and participants.
this already exists for the old world in Warhall
Diggin it, Nurgle Bless
Remember, when Wargaming first started up, there was a neutral "referee" who decided what the results of things were. Sounds like this is kinda meant to do something similar eventually. But I'm not a huge fan of modern "AI" nonsense.
I would like to see it tied to a projector
I play wargaming for the social
Aspect of spending physical times with people into same as hobby as me. It’s one of the few pastimes where gender is not relevant in playing / hanging out / meeting new people and I don’t feel
Hassled .
Online is ok but it will never replace the feel excitement and just joy of being around other persons physically ..
Well unless you are socially awkward and can’t get out so online can part resolve that.
I can see this being a really cool way of broadcasting tournaments but I could never see GW going for it because it would be way too progressive and convenient for them, at least until they "come up with the idea themselves" and release their own version. With the right presenting, marketing and publishing it could make for a really cool pseudo-televised third party tournament with watch back features like faceit.
As for the AI opponent, it would be difficult but no more difficult than setting up any other RTS or turn based AI aside from the need to make it modular enough that you can update army and model rules as needed