You don’t understand violence and neither do I
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
- Q&A with the coach. More questions about da streetz! But let’s get real for a minute and talk about the long term ramifications of violence. I do not believe that most people understand violence at all.
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I've practiced martial arts for fifteen years. I lived in Flint and non violently repelled two home invasions. I've talked my way out of at least seven bar fights. I carry a pistol most days. I still struggle with the question of will I prevail in a street fight because like coach, I don't understand violence. I hope I never do.
That's super impressive, for what it's worth I'd say you're 9-0 and have shown skills far greater than if you actually fought those people.
Wishing you all the best!
Why does every tough guy on the internet claim to live in Flint? Been living here twenty years and I've never had any violent encounters. Most people in Flint just want to be left alone and go about their business. Even if that's stealing catalytic converters.
Flint is no joke. There is a reason SF medics train for overseas with EMS there.
@@oddmanout7755 must be something in the water! 😉😏
@@oddmanout7755 You are the odd man out judging by your name.
-sincerely, not from Michigan or even the US
I had someone pull a knife on me on the train and attempt to cut my throat. He understood violence, but I understood framing (thanks Ramsey and hardtohurt). As he was psyching himself up to inflict violence, I saw him fumbling in his pocket. I live in Australia so my immediate thought was "knife" not "gun".
I know from watching Dewey's videos that even if I were trained beyond a little karate when I was a kid, that my chances of not getting cut are very low, maybe 1 in 10.
I'm in the doorway, figure he'll come straight at me, so i step as close as possible to the glass barrier to my left, to frame him out of anything horizontal because he's using his right hand. This allowed me to force him to be more predictable and let me intercept his hand on the way in. Leaving me unharmed instead of dead.
A properly trained fighter can understood framing far better than I. From this, my takeaway is that a trained fighter can do this but way better if there are "no rules" "tha streets" just gives a trained fighter more ways to exploit their training and knowledge. Such as with framing with objects and structures. So if anything, they're going to have an even bigger advantage because they understand these concepts of fighting even better.
Basically the irony of the utmost and most absolute real situation and that requires the most competence being instead turned into an imaginary ground where fantasy, bs and ''no rules, and quirky strikes/grappling moves are the way'' rule.
No wonder that, in fact, reality sees street fights as... pure messes that either get broke up quickly or finish in a very random and not-so-''real fighting'' way.
Glad to hear you made it out of that situation!
I can top that. During the early part of the pandemic I had a crazy lady in a Walmart spaz out at me calling me parts of the human anatomy after my mini handcart accidentally bumped into her. I apologized profusely but to no avail. To use a Seinfeld-ism she was like an oversensitive, out of control car alarm in the middle of that aisle. Wahhhhh-wahhhhh-wahhhhh!!!
I decided that an attempt of an uchimata or my single leg to knee tap takedown would be a slight overreaction under the circumstances
and decided to just walk away instead. 😉. She was still going off like a car alarm. Wahhhhh-wahhhh-wooo-wooo-eeeee-ahhhhh-eeeeee-ahhhh.
So I know violence. I've been to Walmart!
@@RamseyDewey HE used the greek black belt method because it was the best
Your fighting potential is determined by strength and awareness. Situational awareness, anatomical awareness, etc. Strength is needed to be fast, if you're not strong you can't be fast, because speed is a function of power. If you're not aware you can't use your strength, because you can't direct it.
As an older man who boxed and did stupid things as a young man. Fighting is pain. You’re going to be hurt. But someone trained in anything is better equipped than one who is not.
@Slavery is Freedom, War is Peace meth addicts have other problems that make fighting difficult lol, not a good trade off. Source: I worked at a safe injection site as a security guard and saw some of the funniest fights possible. One time a guy pulled a knife on me and accidentally dropped it lmao
On a more serious note.
There are many levels and facets to violence.
A high-school fist fight is violence. A person beating their child or spouse is violence. Two cage fighters going at it under the lights and cameras is violence. A soldier shooting someone in combat is violence. Etc etc.
Don't mistake knowing or understanding one little bit of it for the whole bloody gem.
I would argue that the cage fight is ENTERTAINMENT. They are paid, there are referees, the entire encounter is VOLUNTARY and thoroughly planned out.
@@hightttech how is it not violence?
@@scottmacgregor3444 exactly what I thought when I read that. As if to say breaking jaws fracturing occipital bone, arms legs hands feet ribs etc. isn’t a violent act…..☠️👻☠️👻
I agree. There definitely are different types and levels of violence. None of them are pretty... but at least organized fights are voluntary, legal, have referees... and will generally deliver you to a hospital if you get seriously inured ( which may very well happen ). The rest of the forms of violence... not so much.
@@hightttech It is regulated and it is consensual, but it's still dudes beating the shit out of each other. The purpose isn't to cause harm or kill, it's to subjugate and assert superiority with minimal losses for yourself.
I'd say "duel" is appropriate.
People say that because of envy, they don't want to feel weaker than you, so they try to encourage themselves saying stuff like that and try to put you down at the same time. That happens with narcissistic people that want to feel superior to you (and it's the opposite, but you have to recognize those signals)
Great video Ramsey!! Greetings from Argentina 🖐️
In one of my first stickfights with the Dog Brothers, I landed a hard vertical downward strike on my opponent’s shoulder, damaging their clavicle. I actually felt pretty bad about it in the moment. I’m friends with the guy on Facebook, so over the period of like a year, he’d occasionally post status updates on how his shoulder rehab was going, and every time I’d feel so bad that I inflicted an injury that took that long to heal (if it ever did entirely). When I got into it I thought the hard part was going to be getting hurt myself, not hurting someone else. I learned that even though I’ve trained a long time, I don’t actually like hurting people much.
I understand, I'm 6 ft and a lean 200 lbs and have trained in boxing and grappling off and on for 20 years. Half of my family probably thinks they would destroy me because they "blackout" when they get mad.
I’m now picturing your mom saying “You don’t know my mentality bro!”
Let me phrase it slightly different: You don't want to have to use a weapon. Take it from a very pro 2a gun nut, I don't want to shoot people. That being said. I've been in scenarios where a weapon was a necessary aspect of the encounter. I've known many a veteran who served in just about every branch of the united states military. They all say essentially the same thing: you don't want to have to use the gun. If you can, diffuse the situation, if not try not to take their life. If the job must be done and only then, should you use a weapon. Its not only to save their life, but also yours.
Bla bla bla Guns were invented in Greece.
But we chose to fight with our hands to feel the life come out of you.
Exactly I don’t want to shoot anyone either but now in todays times these criminals really test you! They would die trying to rob you and hurt you as they rob you. Criminals were given a survey in prison and close to 90% said that they would injure or kill their victims provoked or unprovoked. You have to understand the criminal mind also not just violence.
Lol. Dewey gets straight to the root of the issue everytime. Psychology is his true power.
Man, I understand the long term ramifications of violence. Ramsey. I ended up in a cell on Christmas night and I didn't even strike anyone. You did an entire video on it. People who say "There are no rules on the street" are quickly reminded of just how many rules on the street there really are. Specially when they're sat having to explain your actions to the two arresting officers in an interview room at 04:00 on a cold Boxing Day morning, when I should have been in a nice warm bed with my wife.
The police are the biggest threat to life and liberty in this country. Thugs are nothing, pigs are trained funded and organized to spread terror on the citizenry
Being a HEMA practitioner in the southern US, the amount of people saying "Oh, well I'd just shoot you if you tried to stab me"...
Well, for one, read the first letter - guns weren't too popular in the 1500s, not on the streets lol. But even so, there's the 20 foot rule, the fact that you're not gonna be able to get to your gun fast enough if I'm 5 feet away and start wrestling you in all likelihood.
Even in the old treatises, the masters brought up "friendly" and "unfriendly" techniques in the same book. Showing a reverse collar tie? Oh, if it's unfriendly, you can just elbow them in the throat. Not a massively different movement. Cross-facing? Yeah, gouge the eyes if the dude is trying to kill you.
Knees to the stomach can become knees to the groin. Same with inside leg kicks. Jabs, straight rights, ridgehands, etc. can all just hit a dude in the throat instead of the face. Oh, you're a submission grappler? Great, the other dude doesn't GET to tap!
Combative movements don't change dramatically going from friendly competition or sport to life or death situations. If they do, your martial art is probably martial arts and crafts.
I realize that the goal is to NOT get shot... and you may well succeed at that. Another thing to realize is that even if you DO get shot you're not going to just instantly stop and die. Unless you get shot in the head or maybe the heart, with your training... I think you still have pretty good chance of winning that fight. What happens afterward... that's another story. Just sayin' getting shot doesn't mean your loose. Likewise if you are unlucky enough to have to shoot someone in CQB, don't assume that they will stop... because they probably won't.
There are many things I'm over looking here. I'm just talking about one tiny piece of the whole puzzle which simply is: getting shot doesn't mean that you stop or that you loose.
@@hakachukai Yeah, that's also an important thing to remember.
Even in the 1500s, duels had to have men at arms to stop people from killing eachother (dueling to the death was largely prohibited) because people would keep fighting after they'd been stabbed or cut really badly.
There's one account of a rapier duelist who got stabbed, won the duel by killing the other guy, then died himself minutes later.
you should to the greek method
@@moonsdonut5188 I would if any of their treatises survived and were translated!
We have about a page or so of historical Greek wrestling from the year ~200.
Speaking like a person that has never been in a " life or death situation". Your brain doesn't work the same in an actual dangerous situation, you can train as much as you want but someone pulls a knife at you there is a good chance you just get down to your instincts because of adrenalin and panic. Even highly skilled mma fighters start throwing haymakers and completely forgetting how to fight when they get into altercations outside of the ring. Most people will avoid killing the attacker even when armed and having to put a knife into someone's chest and kill someone even when you are being attacked is something a few people will ever be capable of doing. And people that are willing to do such a thing are usually sociopath's. this reason most criminals will use drugs to help them undermine this basic human instinct.
I live in South Africa, an extremely violent country with a lot of guns and knives. I used to be a paramedic so saw all types violence inflicted on people. Being physically adept increases your chances of surviving a violent attack but strong men are more likely to the victim of an attack. When they break in they often go straight for the male and shoot him. Sometimes women get raped and sometimes babies get put in ovens but violence on men is most common because they are a threat ie might have a gun. A friend of mine is currently fighting for his life in hospital with multiple stab wounds from a house robbery. #ComeVisitSouthAfrica
Damn bro, is South Africa really that bad as I've heard and read? Also, fellow EMT getting into paramedic school!
@@muaythaibachatero393 I was also actual SA EMT equivalent but most people I speak to don't know what that is (easier to say paramedic). SA really cool for EMS because with all the lawlessness and low education you get experience treating the craziest stuff. I think it is easy for wealthier South Africans to turn a blind eye to the violence because they have high walls, electric fences, Guard dogs, guns, full time security guards, etc.
In EMS I saw crazy shit daily but now I only hear of murders and extreme violence every so often. besides my friend that got stab multiple times a week ago. last I heard was my neighbor was robbed and murdered about 3 months ago. So doesnt seem that often if you dont hear about.
@@brandonpearman9218 Pretty insane that a neighbour being robbed and murdered a few months ago doesn't even register much on the radar.
Just want to say what you are doing is Important!!, but living and working under this kind off circumstances, (i hope you have a gun, not when you work , but otherwise, i´m not a gun nut but you got to addapt, my country is "pretty" safe but getting worse., at home) and that police have secured the location you are going to work in.
@@danieljonsson7629 There have actually been incidents with medics carrying guns on the job because they get sent into very dangerous areas. There have been cases of fake calls then they rob the medics for the drugs and equipment.
For all those people wanting to "defund" the police just come live in South Africa, our police force is near non existent, except to bribe and fine the wealthy.
When I was about 12 or 14, I found an old metal baseball bat in a junk pile and took it home.
Just from swinging it around, feeling the momentum of the weight, I realized I knew enough about violence that the only way I could hit someone with it was if I was forced into such a deadly situation that I didn't have time to think about what I was doing, and probably didn't even mean to do it. Maybe there's some deep down part of my brain that recalls being a monkey and grabbing a rock, stick, or *anything* to fend off a tiger, but I don't know how to call upon it at a whim.
I've never hit anything with it, let alone a human head, but I know there's enough strength in my body to bat someone's head off with that thing. I just don't think there's enough strength in my brain to do it.
One day, I got my ass kicked by the neighborhood bully. At my Muay Thai practice, I bragged to coach how I got my ass handed to me, and I was gonna get back at him and make him pay. He gave me the best advice I ever got as a kid.
"If you were ever in a real fight, you wouldn't, and shouldn't, be so eager for another."
At the time, I never understood just how damn lucky I was. I can fight, I still train, but God forbid I actually have to resort to it.
I would be happy to use it . And use it fully . I don't want that stress and would mostly wont come to it
but if it comes you should welcome it fully if it comes.
@@xcept7355 I agree man. As someone who used to box, sparring days gave me major anxiety. But once you're in the fight, YOU'RE IN THE FIGHT. As you said, welcome it when it comes
I had a judo instructor who learned young (because his father was a judoka) and did get in a few fights while young and he said that judo was extremely useful because, in da streetz, your biggest problem is usually how to not injure people so that they're aren't major legal consequences to the fight. Eg the time a woman was hitting on him turned out to be married and her husband was nearby and got angry and jumped on him - he ran over to the grass to throw the guy off so he wouldn't break his head on the concrete.
This is so true. Like I said in my comment for this video, I had to place someone in a wrist lock when they tried to stab me, and the hardest part was not injuring them, so I would not get in trouble with the law.
Oh, and here in California you can get in trouble for injuring someone trying to end you. Dumb, but true.
Ground fighting is not good really in a street fight. Most times you fight in the street you are mostly outnumbered, not always. So in that case you go to the ground you are only able to take down one person at a time. By the time you finish your first opponent others would have jumped you while you are on the ground with kicks and stomps and punches, let’s not mention weapons like bottles for example. One on one ground fighting in the street you will win, If you get out numbered you will get jumped. If anyone actually manages to actually get the upper hand and win is just an exception to the rule, in most cases ground fighting will not be effective in that scenario.
@@URN-A55 you're thinking of bjj. Throws (where you remain standing) are a major part of judo.
@@MissingTheMark yes, bjj, wrestling or jujitsu. You are right, I mistook judo from what I stated.
Total fantasy...your biggest problem is injuring your attacker too much.
That's aikido not judo.
Every time this question comes up, I feel like something gets missed in the answer - why do you care? As a martial artist, why do you care if someone thinks you aren't a good street fighter?
For me, the greatest psychological benefit of martial arts is that they demystified violence. They allowed me to give up the young man's obsession with street fights and the like.
My advice to this guy would just be to recognize what's going on in those conversations: when people talk about The Streets like that, they're treating violence as a symbol of their strength, status, and worth. You don't need to participate in that. For you, violence can just be a skill you train at for fun, nothing more. Let them puff their chests out, maybe invite them to a class some time, live and let live.
Don`t participate in the "monkey dance".
W underrated comment
Bcs they're wrong and I like correcting ppl that are wrong and I like it more the more drunk I get.
Besides it's not ppl thinking I'm not effective in a fight, it's ppl thinking that their untested tricks would work.
I can understand this question coming from a young man, I had trouble arguing it myself. I suppose my answer to my younger self is most people who say this kind of stay are full of crap and are just trying to one up you and that a trained fighter would do far better than someone who is not.
I've been learning to fight for a little while now and honestly it was being almost killed as a teenager that taught me about violence, not learning martial arts. Friends tell me to "just carry a knife" for self defense but they don't understand. Thank you for this video!
Fighting skills are great in hand to hand combat. But if the opponent has a weapon, it’s game over. There are no rules in da streetz. I learned from you running away is the best way to win a fight!
@@mistermister1366 + @main comment
A weapon is not magic even a gun, it depends on the user and conditions of the senior. Especially non gun weapons if they don't hit you then you are good. There is solutions to this. However most often for most people it is like how you explained. However, bring a knife at a special forces guy or at a knight - what that going to change?
I would say yes and no. Of course training for sport and training to kill or to fight without rules are too different thing. However, training is the key. Also we need to not forget the triangle of profomuse: psychology,physicality and speciality. Also wither the person a psychopath or not by DNA condition is also a big factor and what level of a psychopath are u. Anger is necessary but you need to mix that with calmness and still make yourself conscious of what you doing.
Alot of people don't know that a high level but not necessarily the very high levels of psychopaths have knitic intelligence and they have a psychological intensity for fighting and killing with a style. They instinctively know how to fight intelligently. They have strong talent when it comes to fighting.
Also, you don't need to be a professional to kick people ass (although it would be even better). I personally don't train as much especially with Corona back then (although i want too), but i still more than cable to smash my friends that train every 2 days. They even come to learn from me.
Position, balance, speed/reflex, know no fear, understanding the basics, endurance, sharp muscle memory and density towards killing without a second thought are the primary things that wins fights and basics core foundation of fighting, across history.
Eventhough this you still need training.
Also, just don't be a pussy and do intelligent fighting mate. Use your survival instincts. Get the psychology.
Fight as if you are already dead and do what is necessary to win no matter what without a second thought if that is what necessary move your instincts and be dynamic and fluid.
What you need to be good: psychology, physicality and speciality.
@QUAN TRAN that doesn't work always and there is ways around it.
Cause and effect logically is the only way to go about a situation. Everyone has their own moral law and will act accordingly to that law in mind. Street fighters are different then trained violence. Everyone is a street fighter if it’s worth it enough. Can’t call a man willing to go to prison a street fighter, that’s a caged animal that happens to be free.
I hear ya, sometimes the tummy tickles win though. Nothing rational about it lol.
Is parkour the ULTIMATE MARTIAL ART???!!!
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I'm sorry that you have had to see the horrors of the world that you have seen. I'm a firefighter and I've seen it. It sticks with you and I am genuinely sorry that you've had to see it.
When I heard "family" I pictured a bunch of cousins disagreeing at the top of their lungs, not out of anger, but out of the hilarious energy that comes from disagreeing with people you love dearly. 😂
I really love and appreciate very much this kind of videos, where some reason and common sense is put towards action...
There's so much nonsense going around, getting viral, watched by thousands of kids and people who will believe that crap...
That makes your videos even more valuable, thanks for your dedication, Ramsey, saludos! 🙏🏻
Thank you for posting this Ramsey. I work as a criminal defense attorney and I have represented people who got in fights and faced legal consequences for their actions. All the way down to older high school kids ages 15 to 17, who got charged as adults. The general rule in the state I practice is is, the maximum penalties go up with the severity of the injury. Here is my take on the conduct and how it might get charged, though how it actually gets charged depends on the police officers on scene and how they perceive the situation, the previous record of the defendant, and the discretion of the prosecutor. Just as an aside, self defense is an affirmative defense, so you need to assert it at trial if the police and prosecutor don't believe you. Basically, it means getting arrested, hiring a lawyer, and convincing a jury that the other guy was the aggressor and you had to hit that person in self defense. If the jury believes you, you are off the hook.. And if they don't, then not.
These are just the penalties for unarmed attacks. Use a weapon and a while armed penalty enhancer kicks in, or you can get charged with something more serious like attempt homicide or recless injury while armed.
1. Disorderly Conduct - The lowest level crime and can also be charged non criminally as just a fine. Nobody is hurt, not even a little. Maximum penalty. 90 days in jail. Maximum fine. $1,000
2. Battery - If you hit somebody hard enough to cause pain, that is Battery.
Maximum penalty - 9 months in jail. Maximum fine. $10,000
If the person you hit is 62 years old or older or has a disability, it bumps the maximum penalty up to 6 years in prison.
3. Substantial battery. This includes broken bones, damage to teeth, or cuts bad enough to require stiches. maximum prison 3 1/2 years. $10,000 fine maximum
4. Aggravated battery - Great bodily hard such as permanent disfigurement or protracted loss of function or impairment of a bodily organ or risk of death. 15 years prison, $50,000 fine.
Perfect example of how draconian our laws are. This place must be some circle of hell because the people in charge are pure malicious evil
Amazing teaching. There is 2 rules in a street fight : 1. Willingness To apply violence 2. survive
Ramsey Dewey, you have the best self defense advice on RUclips.
I’m kinda curious to know how you came to these conclusions and what happened in your life to give you such a realistic view of fighting.
I’ve seen some things, man. I’ve seen some things.
I bet lots of practice and looking at wounds and rationalizing on what caused them.
@@RamseyDewey dude your profile picture is beutiful
The "I'm hungry" part reminded me of a friend of mine who is of spanish descent as I am. One day as he was hiking with his grandfather my friend kept complaining that he was hungry. At some point his grandfather, a bit tired, told him: "Kid, you're not hungry. Hunger is what we felt during the Civil War... What you are felling is appetite."
Great video man, i agree with your point of view, people hace a very romantic view of violence...
I got into the video hopeful that i would watch this video and learn that, as most of the time, i was just average like everybody else... And never have i been more sad about being an exception to a rule...
For context, on the recieving end of violence, ive lived in relatively rough places in argentina for most of my life, when i was 11 a guy tried to rape me at knife point when i was on the beach, and i managed to escape but made me deadly afraid of knives for years, i couldnt eat close to someone else if they were holding a knife and i would avoid eating with a knife, got better with time... Ive been chased by a van that tried to shoot at me at random too... And ivenbeen attacked in many ways many times... after i moved to a quieter place, i started to notice i was always paranoid, checking exits, trying to see everyones hands, i never would give my back to a crowd... Etc...
On the giving end of violence, in a weird twist of fate, i actually have stabbed people, ive smashed furniture into peoples head, and peoples heads into furniture... Ive actually tried to bash someones skull with a brick, and other things like that ... All of those? Were because i was reacting to the enviorement arround... I always thought "its me or them" and didnt doubt for a second i was doing the right thing at the moment... And to this day, my biggest traumas are not about any damage i recieved from violence, but dealing with the consequences of the violence i used in others... I have more nightmares about stabbing people than of being held at knife point...
The only "fight" that gave me mild PTSD or trauma was a fight where I was able to run and didn't even get hit. It involved me and a friend going into an abandoned basement apartment to use illegal substances. Out of a back room came 5 early teenage boys who are often most violent because they don't understand consequences to others or themselves and want to prove themselves. In the end my friend got hit but both of us got away. He ended leaving me behind and running a different way. So I got screwed over by a friend and was briefly trapped in a situation where reason and conversation was useless. When you're trapped in a situation you weren't prepared for and violence is the only option, then that's going to affect you negatively. People picture a street fight being them and 5 friends against 2 guys where you're talking shit with the build up to get everyone pumped up for it. But true surprise unreasoning violence is nothing but terrifying
Edit: what people fail to consider is no rules goes both ways. No rules is never an advantage except for the aggressor at which point it's not called self defense. It's called assault.
@@hervvernon8911 lol. Good guess but Toledo Ohio which is close to and way too similar to Detroit
>People picture a street fight being them and 5 friends against 2 guys where you're talking shit
Actually I picture a street fight being me and some other drunk guy getting into an argument on the finer points of quantifying uncertainty in different industrial settings.
I've had a few street fights in my life, I come from a boxing background both competing and training. In my last street fight I knocked an angry meth addict out cold with a left hook. At the time people around me were happy as he was causing trouble at the train station for others too. He was out cold though and landed hard on concrete, all I could think was "please wake up" and "will I be arrested?". I felt sick to my stomach and decided never again am I fighting on da streets! I still feel sick thinking about it now?
Last year my GF said "you might know boxing but the streets are different!" I had to summon all my strength not to scream "I've beaten people unconcious on the streets and in the ring! Do you think the karate you did is somehow gonna help your 110 pound ass in a fight?". But I didn't I just smiled and said "sure thing your right!". Hopefully she never has to see me in a real streetfight because I'm sure it will make her feel that sickness in her stomach I once felt!
Bottom line - violence is ugly and brutal and people die or end up brain damaged by it everyday! Avoid it at all cost! If you feel unsafe walking the streets and wanna be left alone get a bull mastiff to walk with you! You'll be left alone!
“So your a target at these social functions…….. Why?”
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Judoka and Kali amateur here. I like what you said about long term ramifications. A violent encounter can last moments but even if you are victorious, the victim can still be imprisoned. This thought really bursts my inner joy from all the exciting fight movies. Revenge may be glorious, but litigation is a bummer.
Fun fact #41 - The Greeks invented Ramsey Dewey.
The Spartans would have thrown him in the reject pile hahahaha,🤣
Harry I knew you would come out of the woodwork sooner or later!
@@RamseyDewey ha ha ha ha 😂 love you too 😆👍
Great video, there's a big difference between consensual violence in a ring or in the mat with rules and equipment. And non consensual violence where someone is attacking you with the intent to harm to gain something like rob you or dominate you with no equipment, no agreed rule set, no referee to decide who won.
Martial arts and self protection skills are two very different things.
this is an extremely important point. Huge differences between social and predatory violence. Treating predatory violence like social violence will get you hurt or killed. People who come after you this way aren't looking for a fight. It's a hunt. Which means the situation usually starts with you being at a severe disadvantage. Every decision made in that context has to be almost immediately effective for insuring your survival. It requires an entirely different mindset.
I've heard that argument more times than I can count, and it's always the people who haven't been near a gym. I think it's just a mechanism for them to not feel physically inferior.
As a librarian, I just want to thank you for your contributions to the Dewey Decimal System
Hahahaha!
When I was a younger person, I was quite small and lean, because I was trained as a gymnast. My dads are gay, and we grew up in a small Southern community. Because of intolerance for my parent's lifestyle, my size, and my demeanor (relatively mild mannered and nerdy kid), I was frequently a target. A target, not a victim.
The thing about 'tha streets' is, like you mentioned, the average person isn't prepared to deal with the reality of violence. So yeah, you hurt someone enough, maybe draw a little of their blood, or hyperextend one of their joints, theyre going to walk away, because violence isn't fun. It isn't pretty, and it's not heroic. It just hurts, in more ways besides the physical.
I hear this "from my family" literally means "from my brother(s)."
That said, my 8yr old niece trains BJJ and I could totally take her in a "street" fight. Obviously BJJ is no good...
I fought in Iraq and i know one thing for sure, violence is messy, and terrifying, and leaves a mark on your soul forever. The punisher kicks ass and i wore one under my uniform in Iraq lol. Seems kinda lame but i love what i love.
“The streets gives us super powers” oh my gosh that one has me rolling lol
You have inspired generations to come by sharing your expertise and experiences in the ''pugilistic arts''. Your channel is golden to me. You may be that art they spoke of with the way you always re-insert the humanity back into the topic. Thankyou for all you do
The discussion about willingness to hurt people reminds me of a Lindybeige video, where he lists post ww2 British statistics, one of them being that something like 1 percent were willing to seek out and fight the enemy, and a further 5 percent could be trained, I imagine the fact that there were a lot of conscripts had an effect but I think that helps when it’s in reference too people at large, only 1 in 100 at most will put themselves into a position to kill when given alternate choices and yet so many people think they’re the baddest person to ever walk the earth
I know I'm on the late show, but I think an often overlooked lesson in martial arts that is applicable to teh streetz is seeing people in their regular clothes and ultimately realizing that you truly have no idea how dangerous someone could be. The second lesson is that someone could just get lucky and injure you regardless of skill level, or vice versa.
I had a boss who kept telling me that although I train martial arts, he would just schoot me if we were ever in a fight.
Which is kinda weird when I think about IT😅
Glad I found this channel again. I used to watch you here and there a long time ago and they were mainly the “bad women’s self defense” videos and they were pretty funny and now I’m subbed
Just for the record he is the other greek guy but on that note, the influence of greeks in martial arts is undeniable. Like the Kimura. The greek word for winter is kimona and what do you do in winter? You freeze so hard that your arms will fall out and what do you do when you are doing a kimura? You rip the arm of the other guy out! See simple equation /s
It all adds up!
I was under the impression that the Kimura was worked out by a Jaoanese man with the last name of Kimura.
My drunk neighbor once told me the same thing... "I don't use rules, I'm a a real fighter." He tried to push me. I arm dragged him took his back and choked him out. Whole thing probably lasted 10 seconds and 3 of that was me applying the choke
Great video. The technical ability to do violence is so much different than the psychological ability to. People all think they are movie star action heroes. They aren't.
I love your channel, especially when you start preaching and what you say is relatable and can be used in the real world. Philosophical and physical culture.
I'm a former boxer 6ft , 210lbs was my fight weight , now in about 245lbs
Here is how to translate boxing into being a very effective street fighter , this is something the vast majority of people I trained with never understood or practiced , I have a much much higher capacity for violence than most due to my upbringing
1) most boxers can't throw a bare Knuckle punch , they don't place their knuckles on the target properly and they let the surface area of the glove take care of that in the ring. HOLD YOUR FIST TIGHT AS HELL and make sure you only make contact with the target with your 3 knuckles. I have hardened my fists into bone horns from punching brick and concrete walls to make my fists like iron . Hitting someone with high power and soft fists is less effective compared to medium power and iron fists . PUNCH BRICK WALLS , HARDEN HANDS
2) Most people when they attack you will try and grapple rather than strike , be quick and strike them first before they get in holding range
3) most people can't throw a powerful well executed punch , get into stance quickly and fall back on your foot work , your base is where you get your power and stability to perform rapid and powerful rotations to punch with
4) Where you punch matters a great deal , in the ring you aim for the chin , jaw, palate, temples , and various places on the body , AIM FOR THE THROAT AND NECK PRETEND THEIR NECK IS WHERE THEIR HEAD SHOULD BE, also solur plexus and liver are good
5) Uppercuts : people don't see this coming and if you can throw one hard into someone's jaw they won't know what hit them usually
6) Usually you will stun an untrained opponent after 2-3 connecting shots ,keep hitting them until the go down , once they are on the floor don't let them get back up , stomp them .
7) Learn how to kick to the groin , use this as a follow up to a stunning punch combo , a heavy weight can get enough power from their kicks to shatter someone's pelvis with a groin kick
8) Throw every punch with bad intention , every single punch you land should be thrown with lethal intent
Source : too many bar fights and club fights to count , sentenced to 13 years in prison for manslaughter in 2001, never lost a fight in prison
Ramsey, I'm starving... for more of your wisdom
Seriously though you are one of the most genuinely insightful people on RUclips. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
People who experience real violence don't speak about it, I had a great uncle who was in a Japanese prison camp in WW2, managed to build some kind of radio with parts around a camp and crank off a signal to Natick MA cuz the family is from Natick and he either knew someone or something idk , and the camp was liberated... I never had the pleasure of meeting him I'm to young but he was the family hero and my grandparents and parents have told me the story and he only ever told his whole story to the family ONCE! and NEVER AGAIN because he couldn't and it's the biggest take away that I took from the passed down story was the only thing that got him through the camp mentally was "having a sense of humor" he said if he couldn't find a way to laugh he would have died! To this day my grandmother talks about how bad his knees were for kneeling on ladders... Real violence is ugly it is not cool it is not romantic and most people don't get it and if they ever did the wouldn't be happy they did!
People react differently to experiences. Some people experience violence and it gives them a weird rush. They may never admit it out loud but they secretly wait for something that traumatic to happen again, because it makes them feel alive. Life is complicated.
Sounds plausible! Life is weird and people are twisted as a whole! Violent blood sports have been around since the dawn of time in one way or the other (the gladiators are a great example) and since the creation of movies my opinion is the general public gets there violence fill from movies and tv... Then there's combat sports... And finally street fighting... That's a lot of sociology and psychology for a simple RUclips comment! 😂
Agreed... but the topic is about experiencing violence which would include both fight and torcher I would say
Dude this turned into a really wonderful talk. It got deep
People always told Larry Hartwell, they wished they had his experience. He answered, "No you don't."
"You would get merced out in these streets, son"!!
"MOM, I JUST ASKED YOU TO PASS THE POTATOES!! FOR GOD'S SAKE"!!
Having REAL fighting conversations never happens outside of the gym. EVER. I have a couple family members who train and still, it never really comes up.
Ramsey,
I understand you attended university for Dance, and some other subjects that I don’t recall but have you ever taken public speaking or oratory classes before? We’re you ever a part of Toastmasters in the USA? Your speaking voice and English is so very clear, eloquent and pronounced that I’d believe you were a professional motivational speaker, communicator and leader. Just enough wondering how you developed such a clear, precise abs strong English speaking voice.
i love these videos. thanks ramsey
Your voice is needed Ramsey, and it's why I support you.
GREAT LECTURE COACH I HAVE THE UNFORTUNATELY WITNESSED THAT MYSELF I CAN TOTALLY RELATE TO YOUR EXPERIENCES
I can say firsthand that most people are not geared towards violence. Much is made of the physical training in various militaries throughout the world and many are excellent. It seemed to me though that much, if not most, of training for the battlefield is designed to psychologically condition the soldier to be able to inflict violence on another human. This level of investment seems to indicate that violence is not natural to us.
As I heard this, the first thing I heard was "why are you a target at these functions? are you making yourself a target in some way?"
secondly, no amount of explaining to people who think street fighting wins automatically will change their mind. Just nod your head and move on. Don't even invest.
lol 😂 Cant imagine a random mom telling her adult son that she'd destroy him because she fights with no rules.
That genuinely made me laugh
Great vid. People should understand that violence is not to be taken lightly. When I first started training and rolling in bjj i started to feel more aggressive but now that I compete in actually tournaments and i spar in kickboxing I feel more scared than ever about altercations outside of that controlled setting because violence is not a toy and if I can’t take it lightly in situations where violence is allowed to unleashed to the fullest versus a situation where it isn’t anything can happen. This vid was more of a warning than anything
Long time fan always appreciate your perspective Outlook no problem for you you're on the world
People say “there are no rules on the street” like it doesn’t also apply to the trained fighter. A competent, trained fighter is potentially deadly WITH rules. Sadly, people do die in sanctioned fights with rules to protect them. What does the average Joe expect to happen when those rules are thrown out the window? As you said, the people who tend to say things like that typically don’t know how to fight. If they did, they’d understand the folly in such statements.
This was great. Thank you Ramsey.
I knew a dude who claimed to have fought on the streets and had firearms, but also claimed to have gotten beat up by multiple people. And he complained that it was unfair. I took that as he was looking for trouble. And when it came to the time, he wasn't prepared.
and he was lucky, some aren't as much
Dude i tuned in for a street fight explained video, but you gave me a history lesson. That worth my time alright lol
Such acomplished, much knowladge🤪
Great video as always.
My advice ( for whatever it's worth)to the guy would be to not feel compelled to correct the misconceptions, real or not, of these people he is encountering.
Let them believe as they wish.
I'd just tell them "Yeah, you're probably right. I'm not very good, but I guess it's better than nothing. My gym is mostly soccer mom's". They'll probably laugh a little... or maybe a lot. But they'll stop feeling threatened by you and probably leave you alone after that.
Very well said Ramsey, very well said.
Thank you for your time Good Sir.
“I’m gonna do all this BJJ shit, plus I’m gonna bite and gouge”
*that left the biggest impression on me*
I think the problem is a lot of people seem to see fighting as separate entities. Like the whole traditional vs modern thing. The problem always comes back to ego instead of just learning.
Wow, way deep, God bless you...
Great video! The legal ramnifications of fighting are definitely a big reason why I avoid fighting outside of combat sports/tournaments as much as possible. The tough part is you get less time for shooting a person than beating them to death, so you should avoid it as much as possible.
Trust me... you don't want to understand violence. It kills pieces of your soul in ways that can not be undone. Avoid it at all possible cost. If you can't avoid it ( and you almost always can ) be very very good at it.
Based on the message alone, this was your best video. I’ve tried to teach this to my high school students over the years. Hopefully got through to at least a few of them.
Thank you for your videos, brother.
Cheers to ya high school teacher! As a troubled kid I still remember some real good conversations with good teachers. I seen a guy I was in high school with, we had a quick chat about our high school years. He brought up a teacher that he always argued with and nearly fought a couple of times, he said alot of what that teacher told him as a teen hit hard as an adult and now wishes he could shake his hand and thank him for his honesty and sincerity. I feel the same. Badass teachers do make a difference.
@@lordswine7962 Thank you for the compliment… because I was a special education teacher, a LOT of the population I dealt with were troubled teens. I still get messages from kids I taught 25 years ago, thanking me for making a difference in their lives. I’ll never be financially wealthy, but I consider myself a successful man.
I like Bas Rutten's answer "yeah, like I can't poke eyes too, only harder and more accurately."
Well said, and it goes to the everlasting discussion about effective martial arts
The best art is one that teaches how to avoid losing a fight.
I've trained in boxing/kickboxing/muay thai since 2006 (with a few breaks of course). The main two things that helped me avoid street fights were:
1. Avoid places that attract confrontation (drunk people, hooligans, muggers) and never go looking for a fight
2. Lift weights and look like you lift weights. Most people are idiots and they think someone who lifts weights is a dangerous person.
Did I avoid every kind of fight because of those two reasons? No, there have been a couple of times when martial arts proved to be useful, but I could have also ran away so...
This was great.👍 I get so frustrated with people like that, like my cousin. Those people are disruptors and distractors and just like any other school they need to be removed so the class can move on. It's a jealous lazy excuse to prop themselves up and put you down. I loved this! 👍👍👌✌️❤️🙏
One of your best videos. Well said, keep on keeping on:)
@ramsey I have ptsd. Your videos help me laugh and gain knowledge
There is an old saying - nobody wins a fight. When I was younger I thought man that's a bunch of crap. Of course somebody wins a fight, just as somebody loses a fight.
But then when I got older I began to understand the quote.
When you turn to violence you've already lost. Which is true if we think about it.
When you use violence against another man, or woman you've lost control.
We're talking about a fight here, not self defence which is something completely different. If you are attacked by somebody for no reason and there is no way for you to go, you have to do something. But a fight is something different.
So after all these years, (turning 40) I finally got that.
Nobody truly ever wins a fight.
As a man 10 years older. I respect you wisdom. You are absolutely correct!
@@jimpyre5038 Thank you sir.
I’ve been training for a bareknuckle karate tournament and getting the mindset to punch someone full force barehanded (we mostly train with gloves and pads etc and light force) is really quite hard. I think doing a fighting sport does simply give you more control over your body and maybe that restraint can hinder your ability to inflict effective violence upon someone else but that’s probably for the best. I need to develop that fighting mindset that’s different to training and sparring without being mad or emotional etc like when I’ve gotten in “real fights” (one or two punches and maybe some grappling before getting broken up). Also Ramsey you have it backwards, the phalanx destroyed the chariots Lel, the chariots dominated the Bronze Age but after that the phalanx and Greek infantry tactics were dominant until the Roman legion system. Which was a huge time.
I practice jkd/mma and was arguing about this with a "jkd instructor" online. He claimed that you don't need to learn how to fight in the clinch, or wrestle, or grapple, because like he said "I can poke their eye in all those positions". I tried to explain number one in most fights you don't have the legal right to just attack their eyes and potentially blind them, and that if you're on your back getting ground and pounded and you don't know how to Grapple, then you're not going to be able to do anything much less poke them in the eye.
Someone who can grapple, can control the positions of a fight and be much more able to gouge, or poke the opponent's eyes. Self-defense oriented Mixed Martial Artists, should be aware and train for illegal techniques, biting, hair pulling, eye attacks. Understand that your opponent might do these things, or that some of them, used properly, could save your life.
The more damaging often illegal techniques, are extremely effective in the hands of someone who can strike, grapple and wrestle, but they can't be relied upon alone; they are not a replacement for fighting, they are just part of it
I enjoy conversations like this. A lot of folks know of violence but don't understand it. And even worse, they aren't willing to admit it.
I had some guy grab me once, since I use to know karate, I said," hey can you grab me with your other hand? So he did and I said," your other hand, my other hand. He was very confused. By the time we got it all figured out I had to get off at my stop. Karate saves lives.
I was confronted by a guy 20kg heavier than me, but thanks to aikido I came out on top. He did aikido.
That bit about PTSD and jail time man.. Rules are generated around consequences. If you don't understand the rule, you don't understand the consequences.
Lt Col Dave Grossmans book On Killing is one of the best studies into the inability and unwillingness of the majority of combatants to act with lethal intent, even when under fire themselves.
It used to be required reading at OTC and for a lot of LEO training, and its well worth the read.
You made A lot of Sense... Thanks Dog
"Moving through spaces, around spaces", "Anger puts you in a cage, it doesn't get you out" . Philosophic.
Hello Ramsey. You live in Shanghai. Do you know that Douglas Fairbairn, one of the teacher of the Special Forces in UK during the Second World War, was a police officer in Shanghai ? He mixed English boxing, Japanese judo,and Chinese kung-fu, which he learned in Shanghai, to create a system for the policemen and after for the soldiers : the close-combat. He wrote several books like Get Tough. What do you think about his system ?
Shanghai in the 1920s and 1930s - with the different foreign 'concessions' and criminal gangs was a good place to get experience with violence and fighting.
💥As far as the Topic of the Video...I found it Very Interesting. I agree, Yes there are "Rules" 2 Any Type of Fighting. However, Rules Can be Bent or Broken. Outside the Ring as U stated are Serious Repercussions..Physically, Mentally, & Legally. The way I look at it...If one is to Engage in a "Street Fight", One Must Prepare Their Mind 4 Death. So B4 I would make the Decision 2 Engage, I Personally Would Look At it As tho it was my Final Battle. If ur Mind is Prepared 4 that, Than U Will Not Fear Nor Care of the Repercussions. So the Decision 2 Engage 4 Me Would Mean is This Battle Worth My Life. If NOT...I Will Avoid it At All Costs. But if it IS or The Agressor Will Not Stop & It is Pure Self Defense...Then I MUST Be Mentally Prepared 2 Die as a Consequence. Whether it be from the other Combatant, their Cronies, or Even the Authorities. So it's a Very Hard Very Serious Decision. JMHO😎🤙
Eye openin video bro 😎 thx 🙏
I was talking about this exact thing with my coach a few months ago. But it was mainly about how most people who don't practice or compete (even some who do) would be willing to do great harm or even kill the person they just KO'd
I just hope that in one day I won't be faced with violence, which I define as a serious threat to life that takes you completely by surprise. No gentlemen agreements, no rules, just being targeted for absolutely no reason.
Thanks for your opinion, coach. 🙏🏼
I been watching Jessie Enkamp's videos. I think I should be fine in a street encounter. The street hasn't even touched me once!
Good comments on situational awareness. They are people who understand violence very well--they will recognize a threatening position very quickly and their first moves are usually very direct and either a strike or attack to take you out or a scoop or dump to break your posture and slam you-- because these work
Glad these videos get recommended. I will tell my take too about people not understanding violence.
When I was in college we got into rumble with some rival fraternity 10 of em 3 of us. I almost got hit by a broken beer bottle there. I managed to break the leaders lips by just holding onto his uniform and pulling his face into my fist but really most of the time I dunno what was going on, maybe they werw just all talk and no cojones they were never able to take us down and it helped that one of us was like 240 lbs lol.
When one of my old classmates learned that he said he was very disappointed - you see he was a rival fraternity to these people who attacked us too. he said
"You were a taekwondo champion (reached regional games) back in the day less than 5 years ago. You should have KILLED those guys"
I was like bruhhh chill..even if I was a taekwondo champ or something,, its different and I was lucky I wasn't killed there being outnumbered.
At that time I think I did not say that but now I think that since I meditated that maybe he did not understand what happens in real fights.
BUT seriously,,what does he want me to do to "kill" these attackers? Throw some out of this world turning side kick hyper accurate to their carotid or femoral artery?
well done ✌❤️ violence is scarring in many ways.