5 Things To Know Before Buying A Mazda RX7
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- Опубликовано: 11 фев 2017
- The RX7 is an amazing car, in this video, Kenny goes over 5 things someone should know before buying a Mazda RX7.
How many times can Kenny say, 'understand that' in one video?
Here are some great resources for a potential FD owner:
www.rx7.org/Robinette/
www.fd3s.net/
And for an FC owner:
www.rx7club.com/new-member-rx-... 
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*5 steps on how to deal with Rotary engines like a "Pro":*
1- Buy a Rotary Powered car.
2- Start buying used cheap parts of off Craiglist and eBay.
3-Do not take the proper precautions and maintenance like premixing the engine. Do not buy a dedicated repair manual and only read RX7 forums on the internet.
4-Use it as a primary car/daily driver.
5-Start spreading rumors on how the car is a lemon and how glad you are now that you got rid of your Rotary powered car.
Juan Cabeza RX7 Owners in a nutshell
What’s wrong with daily driving the car?
@@yz4687 Sports cars are not practical for everyday life. They serve best as a secondary/weekend vehicle.
@Kevin Glover terrible deal
@@KTSN94 if you can not daily drive a car then it is unreliable.. I'm sorry to tell you that, been daily driving my SA for months without issue..
5 things you need to know?
1. You are going to love it
2. You are going to really love it
3. You are going to really, really love it
4. You won't believe how much you will love it
5. You will so fucking love it
Thanks for crushing my RX7 FD dreams, Kennyyyy!
Crushing? Sounds more like fun to me.
wankel sounds like if you buy an fd it better be a weekend second car.
@Ash why
@@joziksk4323 cause its tiny, and gets horrible fuel economy.
lemme not watch the rest of the video.
Original owner, '94 FD chiming in.
To add: The more you modify it, the higher the risk you'll have for engine failure. Mazda didn't design the 13b to have 400-500 hp. Leave it relatively stock and you'll have a much better user experience. The rotary engine (NA) is well regarded in racing circles for be extremely reliable. Most teams expect their engines to run a full race season before rebuilds -- something traditional engines won't be able to match.
This was a very good video. I hope the young whippersnappers out there will heed your advice.
On a personal note, it makes me sad to see FDs getting bought up, raped and murdered by ricers. Almost all of the good clean stock RX-7s are gone.
tscooter22 If I may ask what is your definition of "raped and murdered" when it comes to people and their FD's in particular? Do you mean looks wise, or performance wise, or both? Also what is this obsession with keeping them stock not that I disagree, but when I own a car I would want it to have a balance between power and reliability in the most cost effective way possible as well as making the car look gorgeous imo not just "ricing" said FD out. Just asking for your opinion and why people like to leave the car stock as far as looks. I'm curious.
Lots of mis-information in the comments, rx7s are very reliable if maintained properly. Oil change every 2000-3000ks with the best possible oil, always warm them up and cool them down after hard driving, dont install a straight through exhaust system without getting it tuned. and most importantly of all red line them every now and then to remove carbon build up inside, then get ready for your touge battle in your FD and enjoy that rx7 life!
Can you explain how you're supposed to redline it? Like for how long and when?
Every 3000? Really?
How would you cool it down? Lol
@@rod253 same way you cool down any other turbo - gradually. Just take it easy before you get to your destination and park the car.
Ross Skilton thanks man for the help I was thinking of buying an rx7 thanks for the tips
If you tell me one more time that I need to understand...maybe I need to watch this video again
UNDERSTAND THAT UNDERSTAND THAT UNDERSTAND THAT UNDERSTAND THAT
Rotors Magazine IT is the same with the rx8? and sorry for my Bad english!!
Nick Bielmann Don't think so. RX8 Rotary engines are different from rx7 or any other Rotary vehicles. RX8s use Renesis Rotary engines while the others use Wankel Rotary engines. Renesis Rotaries were developed for better fuel efficiency and less matinance. I don't think Renesis Rotaries have much of an aftermarket.
I drove my Fd from San Diego California to Kissimmee Fl. Anyone who says Rx-7s are not reliable are ignorant. If you don't know how to take care of them it'll shit on you. It's not even expensive to take care of them either. I've been daily driving mine for 2 years.
Just top her up with oil every now and then and you're chillen lol
How is it now?
How is it running now????
@@Adub12 I sold her 3 years ago to start a business. She was my daily driver even in florida and I had no issues. Just maintained her very well.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 I have no clue. I sold her 3 years ago to start a business. She ran perfectly fine up until that point. I will be buying another one hopefully this year.
"FD owners usually have more money than FC owners" lol
Number 1 make sure it's not ls swapped
Bryan3000GG Gaming *make sure it is unless you hate your wallet
Number 2, buy an Ls and put it on an engine stand in your garage. Then imagine how much cooler your car would be if it ran with the power of an ls.
you have no idea how many times i've seen really nice FCs only to see that it has been ls swapped
Then it isn't an rx7
@@Jay-bu5ki True, its something better.
If you're ever going to look into spending good money on any RX-7, get a compression test done, takes stuff all time and a mobile mechanic and do it fast and cheap. This will generally give you a good idea as to what state the engine is and a rough estimate to how much longer it will last when looked after until the next rebuild. Turbo's are a different kettle of fish, as are numerous other things that you should check prior to making a purchase, but I'm not going to list them. If you're going to commit to buying a rotor, spend as much time as you can doing your own research into the entire car you're looking to get, and unless you have very deep pockets, expect to be prepared to learn to be a good patient amateur rotor mechanic, but trust me its fun as hell working on these beasts (I'd also suggest a second car to have access to for when you do need to play around or have lots of spare time). But all the extra research and learning hands on is totally worth it, you get so much out of it.
"It's just as reliable as any other car, but be prepared to completely rebuild it"
lmao k
Just needa take care of it
@@ethansuchit173 Wankel engines are inherently unreliable regardless of maintenance... it the reason why the Wankel engine is obsolete.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 u own one?
@@ethansuchit173 I'm not gay.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 ya mom told me something different
fc prices are going up
Oh fuck
god damn don't announce it! not enough people know :p jk it blows and a few FC turbo II's i wanted to buy were at 3k-5k now want 7k AND UP! what!!! It's awesome for the current owners, just not me who want's a rotary T.T
nice profile picture
I bought one bone stock which just needs paint with 130,000km for 3000
(The car is on my channel)
I finally found a Nissan fan boy
"It doesn't make it any less reliable"
I laughed at that part
anyone who knows worth a dick about engines knows that when HP goes up reliability gets worse.. even with the correct supporting mods.. dudes a fucking joke
Been driving on 700+WHP since 2007, how bow dah.
Logan Speer So in that case, your talking about yourself. Bundy.
Actually, there are a lot of things you can do to make more power and have better reliability.
Then immediately says, "Be prepared to fully rebuild the car"
I love your channel I feel like I’ll be learning a lot from you and I will watch all your videos! Might have questions threw out the course
Because it takes dedication to own an RX7, that's exactly why I freak out with joy when I see someone with one. They rare to begin with, takes passion to own one (for more than just a year or so), and it tells me the owner is ACTUALLY into cars more than just buying some cool shit to flaunt.
So why is it cheaper to install a 20b in an fc than an fd? I didnt know that
awesome vid looking into getting one in the future and alot off good points has been made thank you
I love the channel! Keep up the great videos
You just earned a new sub thanks for this great video about the rx7 Cheers!!!
Thank you Kenny. Your information and candid presentation is spot on. Too many people, my self included have delusions about the rotary enigma dream. The reality is a stark contrast to the major armchair Qb of persons who don't know what they are talking about.
I secured a tech manual for my rx8 rebuild. Dropped $4,000+ into the engine. Got it to run. Had a bad cat and it was still working. So many other factors are involved . Blew the engine due to a out of true crankshaft. Bought a used motor , dropped that in so I can pass smog in California. Love the ride, but exactly as you share with us here, there has to be an adventuresome spirit to understand the full definition of what a rotary engine is and what you must know to make it work. Bigger learning curve and I am a scientist. Keep at it . Ziggy
Well, the issue of Wankel engine reliability is epitomized by the failure of any Wankel engines to achieve and maintain airworthiness certification for passenger aircraft... something that is not an issue with reciprocating engines.
When it comes to comparing automobile manufacturers based on reliability, build quality and longevity Mazda has traditionally ranked very poorly, especially in regards to engines and transmissions.
Great vid thanks for posting !
I literally just got a 88 FC3 vert tonight.. for 1300 bucks... popped on to look up some reviews and spotted this. Nice helpful input sir. You get s a thumbs up.
thank you for the clear explanation bro! I really appreciate it!!
I'm so glad that your channel has appeared in my recommendations! I've wanted a RX-7 for years and literally I'm glad you made this video. I was going to make this video once I found a clean FC or FD, but their prices are skyrocketing! The preparation for buying a used one that might need a rebuild is definitely overlooked. I'm not super picky, but people wonder why I don't jump on a 3k-5k FC that looks decent. I know for a fact I'll need to throw 2k into it just to make damn sure it's proper or if it needs the rebuild. FD's holy shit haha glad you covered it. The cars are OLD now. They're damn good, it's just something people aren't patient enough to wait for. I've waited over 8 years to finish school and fund one. Still workin on it haha (FYI hope you recognize where my name came from!)
Did you ever get a7?
Thank you man I just subscribed I am thinking of buying an rx7 this list helped me
just got a 1990 GTU non turbo only second owner suspension done what to do for more power w/of adding turbo
Great video, very informative.
My RX8 I had in the past was the most fun car I've owned, I can't wait to save up for an RX7 FD one day.
always had a thing for FC rx7s. glad there not extinct and people still enjoy them.
also inb4 LOLapexseals
Sick FC in the back! Evan created one of my favorite FCs
Love the video!
great video hahahaha the mic drop at the end! hahaha god damit just walked outside to check, your right!
your videos are actually good subcribed
Great Vid bro thanks
Great info👌🏼
Looking at buying an fd turbo from Japan want to try to keep things as stock as possible looking at a time mechine kind of car what do I need to look for?
Any love for FB's on here? my 12a is leaking oil out the block and I'm about to do a rebuild but I also want to port it for brap reasons, any reason I should'nt besides the loss in (already bad) low end torque? its also N/A, and for the time being its gonna stay that way, those racing beat headers werent cheap :(
Thanks for the tips
yo, what's your take on the fb models? I'm deciding to make it my first rotary.
So what kind of engine swaps can you do with an rx7 other than a Ls engine I be never owned one don't know much about them but I'm very interested in finding out more
That was honest and insightful. Thank you sir.
Great video as always! Haha yeah I saw that about the T2 hood lol. I had it on my fc but I traded it for a regular hood.... My car wasn't a t2 lol
Hello guys
Can anyone tell me if the water engine coolant level sensor & gasket is the reason that my fd rx7 its not starting
I dont drive my rx7 too much i just start it once a month
When the key is in second position its starts beeping and dont stop
Please let me knoy what could be the reason
my rpm cluster its not working as well
Very good response about the rotary engine not being expensive. It required initiative. Oil changes with dino oil 5w30 is alot cheaper than synthetic so oil changes are pretty price competitive. I redid the 13B s4 with s6 internals on my FC then swapped it into an s5 body. We did the switch in my driveway and it wasn't very hard. Total into the car is probably 16k but I stopped keeping track.
There is a lot of space in the engine bay so it make things very easy. Anyone with a 350hp these days can't fit their hand in to do more than change the spark plug. I'm microtech big turbo now, racing beat stainless exhaust, and gilmer belt drive :-p
1. It
2. Will
3 Blow
4. Up
5. Soon
There you go all 5 things.
No Lucks Given as an x rx7 owner this is so true. i got tired of throwing money on it and sold it bought an evo havent looked back
evo 9 gsr Yea I always start thinking about getting one and doing a build, then I think about it twice and I just can't. To the people who have the willpower to deal with them, hats off to them.
Lulz. So true. It's not IF it's gonna blow, it's WHEN. I swapped in an LS1/T56 about 5 years back, after the rotary started pushing coolant. Now I'm at about 400whp with heads and a little cam and I'm loving every minute of it.
Brandon Berry I would love to do this
No Lucks Given Do it :D You can find aluminum 5.3s for pretty cheap. You could have yourself a no worry sports car for well under $10,000 including the car. I have an SUV, but I still drive the RX7 to work every day down 15 miles of twisties. I actually enjoy my commute in that thing.
Aren't rotary engines also horrible on gas mileage? I heard they go through fuel like crazy.
P.S. cute dog in the background. he's trying to get some camera time lol
and oil. they are designed to eat oil; ask any RX8 owner.
Silenced 505 Flames coming out the exhaust is a positive thing. No more tailgaters
Silenced - Because a rotary engine has very long combustion chambers it will naturally never be able to burn the fuel quite as efficiently as in a conventional engine. Still, the fact of the matter is the average mpg for the FD RX7 is not really what I would call “horrible” for a 255 HP engine. In fact, the combined listed mpg of the 93 RX7 is exactly the same as for the 2000 Honda S2000, a car of similar size and performance. Anyway, I have had my FD for nearly 20 years now and despite the less than stellar fuel economy it’s been a really great car.
VesBraun - Yes, rotary engines are lubricated by having oil injected into the combustion chamber, much in the same way as a two-cycle engine. They do not go through oil “like crazy” though. That is unless you are driving an awful lot of miles every month. And of course the RX8 is supposedly designed to use even less oil than the RX7.
Yeah. Because they rev so high, gas sometimes isn’t ignited and thrown out to the exhaust valve which is why you hear a lot of modded rotaries backfiring-it’s as inefficient with gas mileage as it is awesome. Totally hope to pick up a stock ‘93 FD in a few years for ~$25-30k. The hard part will be convincing my parents to drive me to the west coast where most are for sale.
Great video! Any chance of a specif fc video? Things to look out for when buying etc? Maintenance and best mods per buck etc etc.
Well if I may, the same as most Mazda's...look out for rust in the A frame, air vent system and around hatch and sun roof if not a convert. Change oil/filter every 3-4000 Kms (in Aus we use 20-60w). In no order...Better porting, bigger turbo, injectors, aftermarket ECU/coils, radiator/intercooler, tyres, coil overs and bigger brakes...Best bang per buck to begin with, bushes, tyres and coil overs :)
there's an fd near me that has an auto trans and some damage to one of the fenders that has been sitting out back of a local used car dealership for ages. how much do you think it'd be worth if the guy wanted to get rid of it?
It isn't for sale, owner is still hanging on to it :( however, I found a decent shape NA FC S5 for a good price. I'll be picking it up next weekend :)
I got a free RX7 from a buddy and I find your channel very informative, thanks!
True and honest video. Nice one!
I think you just crushed my dreams
dont be crushed. find an abandoned rx7, with a fair engine that still has good compression. everything else just accessory
@@lordswan1987 *Lol!!!* *That's hilarious!*
@sandervanderkammen9230 you're really hunting me in the comments huh? Did you lose that bad?
The only question I have, is I'm planning on getting an FB soon (my favorite style of RX7), and is it logical to swap a turbo 13b from an FC into it, and roughly how much am I planning on spending on that?
Also, I learned that the Turbo II hood isn't centered a long time ago, and when I learned that it pissed me off and completely ruined it for me :(
CapnFlappyJaw use a FB front cover on the 13b and slot the motor mount plate. FB rx7s were my favorite I had a s4 street ported 13b in my 85 base model 12a. I'd say you will spend 2k swapping it in depending on the motor and transmission cost do not try to run a 12a transmission at least go the the rib case gsl-se transmission
Just a quick question, I saw on an old forum that someone in Australia built a 3 rotor out of a renesis 13b with no bigger center iron like the traditional 20b.
So the question is, would they have used 4 port irons instead of 6 port? And would the balancing and tuning be a total utter bitch?
hey man love the channel i was wondering if you had any videos or pictures of any wiring schemes for a 1987 rx7 fc 3s 13 b i bought the car with the engine swapped same engine just rebuilt but wiring wasn't put back together was wondering if you could help me out in any way thanks alot
hey so whats a current budget for a rebuild 1993 twin? thanks,
I personally agree that the Rotary engine requires self learning and self service. Mechanics for rotary engines are also rare to find and the owners must do DIYs on them.
Another one who read forums and shoots all the knowledge out without working as a tech is just beautiful
Is there a best rotary car for a rotary noob or i could just pick the nicest rx7 or rx8 i can find?
Get a nice "Series 2" stock rx8 if you can find one. They are only a bit more expensive than an FC and way cheaper than FD. There are more spare parts available for cheaper price. You will have to upgrade ignition coil and a few reliable-related-mods to keep the car run nicely.
Stay away from the FD, the thing is too complicated and you will have to spend more money on reliable-related-mods just to keep the car running reliably in stock form.
What model is the RX-7 from Tokyo drift? and do they exist in left drive ?
How much did your rebuild cost?
Hey I wanna buy a fd... But do you think like 40k is a good price ? Or I need to go higher ? And where I should look
40,000 is a terrible price for any 20+ year old Mazda... you would have to be stupid or crazy to pay that much.
so my dream car is a Rx7 and NSX But i don't know Much about cars (Cars parts)any help with that?
Aiight, I hope I remember to watch thise video in a couple of years cause I really want to own an RX-7 later...
Also, I've heard that the RX-7 has some Apex Seal issues... Any way to fix that problem or what to do if that happens?
Blown seal = rebuild
When you blow an apex seal its time to grow up and buy a real car..
I was given a FD with no engine lookin to toss a 13B in it how much u think I'd be looking at spending????? I'm not lookin to race or have a shit load of power
so glad someone who actually knows what they are talking about has made this video
Well damn, this video was uploaded on my birthday and I'm considering selling my 06 Volvo S80 and getting an RX7. I want to learn as much as possible rotary engines and this video certainly helped me make my final decision.
5 reasons to buy an rx7:
1: Spinning rotary dorito engine
2: Pop up headlights
3: Initial D
4: Keisuke takahashis and ryosuke takahashis cars
5: Kansei dorifto
Best reasons
Wow, quality content on here! I've just recently brought in an FD and have realized it's starting to become a moneypit. Or as you say financial disaster :)
you talked about swaping a 13b for a 20b or a 4 rotors. for me its just a crazy dream but for someone who really want it, is it possible to run a 26b with carbs? it would be more simple.
Video is on point. I bought a $5500 FD 10 years ago, I was not prepared. Stuff just started immediately breaking. It was a nightmare. Factor in the rebuild, or pay more, end of story.
very well said. thank you so much
I'm thinking of buying an fd RX7. The only mods I'm going to do in the engine is upgrade turbo, new apexi exhaust and tune. Is that going to be thousands of $, if it is should I get a mk4 supra instead.
VY4LIFE
yeah couple thousand for sure.
even for supra. Even when you shop around buy used and do work yourself. Do some window shopping right now before buying either car.
There is a turbo I was looking at for mine and its $900 US alone.
But it does make 580HP
Good vid!! Really your info covers any rotary powered car, not just RX7's ;) Realistically any second hand car will need the usual suspension bushes, springs, shocks, alt, starter ETC replacement. But always expect a motor rebuild with any rotary, just because people will flog them to death...cause ROTARY POWER...Brap brap brap!!! LOL.
I totally agree on how expensive it can be. Great video 👍
same some1 try to sell my dad a rx7 for 25k
whats the differents between FD and FC?
I love this channel.
How bout a 2jz swap? Is it like an ls or its alright?
How much does it generally take to rebuild?
Is a 1993 rx7 fd3 good for 14k?? I need help
This is true for any old performance car not just rotary
does this go for the Rx7 veilslide?
that second tip. ive been working on my '78 SA22C for like 2 years now haha ill be done in like a week, also i didnt buy it and have to rebuild it it was my grandpas project and he passed it too me, i actually learned how to drift in it
Cooling lubrication and maintenance is what keeps rotarys going omg any rotary is a hell of fun except the 10a lol 12a 13b and the renesis are all a fun box to toss around I totally agree the vids advice this video is good advice for all rotarys Rx8 included Tanx guys!
Would I fit in an rx7?? I'm 6'7" fit build 210lbs want to pick one up but most of them I'll have travel for and I'm worried I won't fit
Probably not.
@rotors Magazine. where are you from? I see the KC hat
how much are the ls mounts?
This was a really good video. I looked into used core engines and they are about $1500... the desirable honda motors are about that used if you are willing to shop around.
Subscribed.
Just chillin here with my Fb just waiting for a 13b rew swap
How hard and expensive would it be to manual swap an automatic FD? In threads many say it's easy others say it isn't.
Luisk a minimum of $2,000. Finding LHD 5Spd pedals is the hard part.
how much does a rebuild cost generally?
In a car meeting, when the rotary engine comes, all the bullshit stops!
Rotary is the real “neck breaker” Hehehe
Already bought one, this is gonna be a fun learning experience.
How’s it going 😳
@@davidwaters7389 military police made me part it out lol, big oof as the kids might say
@@NOMACD that’s bad form 😅 I hope to buy 1 in the future
@@davidwaters7389 yeah they are great little cars, my advice would be to buy one that is already squared away if you can afford it
@@NOMACD I’ll keep that in mind gonna be a while anyways till I can afford one there mad rare in Ireland
a pretty clean FB RX7 appeared up the street at one of my neighbor's houses one day
it sat for a while until it was on jack stands for a little bit longer. and then it disappeared. I don't know if they sold it or towed it to a shop but I haven't seen it since. I have never seen it run or drive
Very typical, most of the folks buying these cars have no idea about their horrible reputation for expensive engine failures..
why do say you need to budget a rebuild i have had a fd type r Bathurst had it for 5 years no issues and is solid az. i always hear this for 13bs and sr20s i have both and never had issues
Are u able to put a piston engine in a rx7
2jz-gte twin turbo intercooled in a fd ?
Nice, thanks for this. Currently, I see only one FD in my country for sale, for $50k, and 2 FCs for about $5k, but I walk almost every day around FC, parked in the same spot for a several months now, so most likely in a need of rebuilt, I dream about that car and how I rebuild it in my shed...
i know a FD3S imported from Japan to my county that'd cost me 15k, fully running.. i want that car so badly.. but being 20 and studying i dont have the money to buy and insure it :(
For the 4th thing, can't you just import an Eunos Cosmo engine?
When my RX7 had it's first engine failure i had to get the dealer in to check out the compression.
The tech said i had done well for it to last 70k on a non turbo. Front rotor seals had failed.
He said turbos usually blow at 35k.
I rebuilt my engine and it lasted to 99k till the second rear rotor blew.
fly bobbie thanks for the information how much did the rebuild cost
@@brad346326 No point quoting really as this was back in 1995. I took the engine out, sent it to a specialist, they wanted £5000 to rebuild it. So i had it back in pieces, costed the parts out myself at £2500 and rebuilt the engine myself. A friend that owned a garage knew the local Mazda dealer and got me FOC the dealer workshop manual. Back then a front rotor cost £500 and the housing was £800. The rest was seals, etc.
I then rebuilt the engine later a 2nd time, costing another £1500 for the 2nd rear rotor and seals.
When the engine finally gave out at 120k miles, i put a Ford engine in the car.
Based on rotor tip wear rates i measured these engines should be pulled at about 50k-60k and rebuilt before the tip seals wear and fall out of the groove wrecking the housing seal face.