Greatsword versus Shield
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- As part of the block of Greatsword training I'm currently teaching at Ludolph van Ceulen, I'd like to keep track of the various challenges a Greatswordsperson would face and see how the manuals tell you to deal with that. For this week's class, that meant taking on shields, both in a 1 versus 1 and in a group fight. Overall, this was loads of fun and actually gave us some new insights in why certain regra's In Figueyredo and other manuals are made in the way they are.
#historical #fencing #hema #greatsword #montante #zweihander #armour #shield #experiment
Who would win:
Bunch of planks
VS
One long boi
One gunpowder boi
@@kincaya5510vs a parry boi
Parry this you filthy casual
“HEMA is lame and isn’t stylish” mfs when they see historically accurate greatsword combat (they make spin attacks work kinda)
optimal spinning
Greatsword spinning and swinging is the entire main reason I might consider getting into HEMA, lol!
@@mekingtiger9095 b i g s w o r d e n e r g y
Try spinning a heavy ass sword around like that constantly for longer than 30 seconds and tell me its viable in combat
@@JohnQueSacc but it is tho. those kinds of greatswords only weigh like six pounds on average.
So the greatswords biggest threat is... Cramps?
Hahaha, kinda? ;P
@@VirtualFechtschule I have no combat knowledge, so I gotta ask: does throwing the sword an option?
@@trandaiphuc5342 It can be in some options. The existence of techniques to counter this does seem to suggest that it was done.
Any rock & a sling, or a spear.
@@trandaiphuc5342 Throwing motion is very recognizable so the opponent has a moderate chance of dodging or blocking it, and if it happens now you're unarmed. It may work, but I would put it for last resort.
The guy with the shield just getting knocked over, shows the power really well 😂
Yeah, or rather the instinctive to cover yourself bringing you off balance.
I feel like the shield guy is misusing his tool. He is putting his shield front, while the attack comes from the side. Then he loses balance as he is attacked because he is not moving forward to attack. Almost like he is defending and attacking as separate actions.
@@Tony-li5kt Yeah, the shield-user didn't appear skilled with the shield as a weapon, or even as a defense. They mostly held it up & hoped.
@@VirtualFechtschule That shows a distinct lack of training on the shield-user's part, yo. Kind of makes the whole comparison questionable when only one party is actually proficient with their tools?
@@justsomeguy9555 It would be a closer comparison if we had someone who is a super experienced shield fighter, but we did notice something interesting. Relatively unskilled greatsword users had about a 10/1 'winrate' against someone with at least some shield experience, while a very experienced greatsword user against someone with little experience with the shield had the same rate. This gives at least a strong indication that the reach advantage is pretty crucial. Also, the shield stuff looks kinda terrible, because your form really suffers when you're under pressure in a disadvantaged scenario, so keep that in mind. That said, we should totally repeat the experiment once we find someone who's a master with the rotella shield, but that's for the future. :)
This demonstrates well the tremendous importance of reach in melee combat. The person with the longer weapon always has a massive advantage.
as i can agree about the importance of reach in combat one of the reasons spears were so popular back then also their cheap price to make/fix
i dont like that they dont use heavy wepons in this video i know it would be dumbly dangerus but weight was a huge part of a fight back then even in training they would use armor which would make them slower so in a real fight his "attacks" would deal barely any damage to the opponent if any and also a good shield user would not rush into an enemy like that he would walk back while blocking waiting for a good moment or he would block the attack with his shield and then grab it or push down to get an easy stab in the neck or other weak part of armor also touching on that group fight in that situation he would be fucked bc they would just rush his back when his turned and the metal sword and armor would slow him down so no way his blocking his back more then twice [ohhh but what if he didint have any armor??!] THEN HE WOULD DIE bow short spear even a sharp stick made in 2 s would be death for him also in a real fight thousands of man on both sides armor weapons ready how would he use his long sword? as a spear no other way why? bc one swing would kill the people on his side just so his atack can be blocked by an enemy also what would he do if even 2 spear man got him with 1 he could win with 2? no even braking the spears would probably just delay his fate because spear man always carry another weapon like short sword or a short spear let's say he broke one spear now there is a man trying to stab him from far away and one trying to slash his back or throw shit at him now that i think he could win this still a hard fight but one last thing bow the reason shields are second most used weapons after spears bc without one you are dead gone fucked no mater what
Some thing i fogot ye long swords are amazing wepons but in big grups yyy not realy in a 1v1 it wins most
A game For HONOR shows well how long swords were used they would carry them by the blade and grab them with the other they would also work well as a spear.mace.axe.shield like? But only when we are talking abaut close fights no archers
Long sword is good at
- 1 on 1 fights
- destroing less wealthy
- versitale
- weight
Wait what? Weight is in good? But-
You need speed strengh and weight to kill so yes its a good thing but not in this video some of the moves would be slower
SOME bc some are good i have to say
Like the fact they would go from one atack into another
What is he bad at?
- any range/throwing wepon
- small space a room/forest? Well kinda
- skill (you need A lot of training for this wepon AND money and all that just to get shot by a crossbow man who got his wepon yesterday)
ANYWAY im kinda late and sorry for writing a. . . Gad dam this is long ye its 3 am and i cant sleep bye
I think the fact that greatswords were most famously employed against pike formations (landsknechte) goes to show reach isn't everything. Zweihander and halberd may be long weapons, but they're absolutely stunted compared to a pike - and spanish rodeleros used large round shields and side-swords to achieve the same objective of breaking through the pell mell once both sides pike walls collided and essentially reached a stalemate where the long and unwieldy pikes could no longer maneuver well enough to abuse their reach.
In other words, this only holds true so long as you have ample space to use your reach. In an actual battlefield situation where you're forced into a close quarters push of pike for an extended period, short weapons can actually shine again as the deciding factor that breaks the melee in your favor. Combined arms tactics are the real massive advantage.
Not always the Romans fought with short swords their could close in with the shield and once they were close enough their enemies couldn't swing giving the Romans a massive fighting advantage, along with the fact there where 1000s of them.
@@MugJr0558the Romans specifically dealt with the reach advantage by disrupting the enemy formation with thrown pilum right before they got into range, giving them the precious moments necessary to close the gap and then take advantage of being up close with shorter weapons. You saw similar tactics in numerous other contexts, like naval boarding actions during the age of piracy using pistols and blunderbusses on the way in to disrupt as much as kill (thus giving you the opportunity to get in with a sword against an opponent defending a barricade).
Reach basically always wins except when you have a way to close the gap. Heavy armor, disruption tactics, ambush, etc can all potentially do the job, but if you don't have such a trick to use you're basically screwed.
It's also why guns > melee weapons.
Aside from massive impact force from bullets, you can shoot from yards away almost instantly.
Greatsword vs Spear?
The comically floppy sword. My favorite weapon
People also way underestimate just how much momentum there is in a great sword swing. The number of times I've successfully blocked a shot from one on my shield only to end up punching myself in the face on contact is more than i can count. That's not a flight ender by any means, but good luck keeping up your advance after one of those numbers
Makes me wonder if Dane Axes did not occupy a similar albeit still distinctive niche in the late dark ages. They certainly existed in different warfare contexts with different strengths and weaknesses against different kinds of weapons but they were seemingly both effective and popular amongst certain elite infantry units.
they certainly did. I think there's a video of sparth axe demonstrating similar techniques
The momentum of a greatsword is a lot lower than that of bearded axes though. Quite a few of these flourishes have quick stops and changes in direction which would be much slower with any sort of great axe. Great axes have many more hooking techniques that you can't really pull off with a greatsword though. The great axe would probably perform worse vs many opponents but give a good variety of additional options against a single opponent and have a massive boost in impact.
@@dolsopolarI do reenactment fighting for Viking Age, and while I have not used a Dane axe in combat, I have fought against one a fair bit.
They're definitely a monster to fight and you have to wait/create an opportunity to bum rush them. Unlike a great sword once you're past the axe head you're pretty safe, though they can move very fast. Video games would have you think they're heavy and slow, no they're actually pretty nimble.
I'm no expert, but I thought they were primarily useful in formations as they could reach past shield barers and crash through the enemy's shields or helmets on the other side.
@@Arbidarb Yeah we've got one guy who loves to use his Dane axe, and he'll primarily fight in the second line. Moves freely and will reach over or around the rest of us to either pop people in the shoulder or pull a shield.
I love videos showing dudes just standing behind they guy while they spin around with the sword. AC:Brotherhood guardsmen levels of effort.
yeah totally😂😂😂 this dude think's he's a real warrior too
You've been working with the Greatsword for a long time. How long would you say it took you to get to a level of competence with your flow through the sword cuts?
Great question. This is quite some years already, but at the same time, I haven't been practicing consistently through that time, mostly doing it in summer.
when the helicopter arms move actually works
Spin2Win
That is actualy a pretty fight because of desavantage in the attacks of this two warriors with zwehainder and shieldsword
That's good and all
But what if I
"Comically long stick with pointy tip"
That changes things significantly. We found that it becomes somewhat equal in a 1v1. If you add a polearm to a group fight though, the scenario becomes unwinnable, unless you wear armour.
Awesome footage. Thanks.
Thanks Ivo! :)
@@VirtualFechtschule now fight someone with a spear
it would be nice to see you get your bottom handed to you for once.
spears over swords pretty much all day.
@@bastait It's on the list. Next few trainings we'll put the montantero's on the disadvantage now that I have taught them some good tricks. :D
@@VirtualFechtschule nice its good to be well rounded
Landsknechts must have been very effective mercernaries.
Bro was holding the whirl button the whole time with multiple enemies
I'm seeing an arms race about to form...the only proper answer to a Greatsword is a Greater Sword (20% longer)
XD
I've grown fond of the rule of thumb that any weapon that can force you to commit a leg to bring them into range enjoys a considerable advantage in target selection.
Yeah, I his is a really good rule of thumb for asymmetrical weapon matchups
Shields are decent one on one, but they are really made to be used with someone to your left having one as well, ive never really liked a straight up standard kite or box shield, Buckler and sword, or my preference buckler and bearded axe work out better than a larger shield against a larger weapon. which on paper makes no sense to me but repeatedly preformed better against things like Halberds, poleaxes, and great swords. ..... less so against other Axe users or poleaxe users that use the hook T.T
2nd half of video: greatest reverse jumpings in anime part (blank).
I have some put some serious sparring study into shield work. You can choose to listen or not. Here's some advice. Hope it helps. Attacking the head to block their line of sight only works when the shield is held and used wrong. Not saying they still couldn't potentially get past but it would be much harder if held edge forward and in a slightly extended boxer style guard. The front, top and bottom edges of the shield guard you. The back protects from incidental overlap. The flat side is more for overall coverage past the outside edges. Don't let anything get through the inside edges. Center grip shields are far more maneuverable and my preference. Use the front edge to trap the dominant arm. All power comes from the dominant side. Stop the acceleration before it gains force. Close the distance and don't let off the pressure. They will eventually wear down, open up or just fail. If you fear the blade you will lose. Respect the blade at distance and deny it in close. Thrusts are your friend, especially when they have no shield.
What you say makes a lot of sense for centre grip shields. We used a strapped shield because they're more representative of what a greatsword would be likely to matched up against in 16th and 17th centuries. And the visibility issues is a thing there. If you specialise in shield work, I can understand centre grip is nice, I like that one slightly better too as it allows for better active shield use as you say. I mean, we obviously train greatsword more than shield, so there's plenty to gain there, but I do feel the visibility is an issue with strapped shields, as cover the right side of the head is quite difficult to do without being the the entire arm over (as opposed to centre grip, where that is just the shield). Anyway, thanks for the feedback!
@@VirtualFechtschule we study targe fighting at my club, and sometimes spar the long sworders. We use exactly the same technique as he is describing here. By using the edge of the shield over the flat, it provides a lot more strength to the parry, whilst covering if the longsword tries to wind or rotate past the parry.
Using the flat of the shield is weak as it is reliant on your shoulder to resist the blow, whereas you can use proper parry form and offer a much stiffer parry if you follow the technique received above. It also does not block your view, and you leave the parry to the last moment when the greatsword is fully committed so it steals time.
My advice is that with single handed swords and with shields, to discuss with people who practice them regularly and work to develop stronger parries. You need to frame your body and retain a strong (but not stiff until necessary) arm shape to properly protect yourself. At that point, the ability to move the single handed sword far faster than a greatsword makes the exchange far more even than you are showing. Targe is extremely effective against two handed weapons, when used as a parrying weapon rather than as a weak guard.
@@pluemas That makes sense. How does it work for you with a targe when closing the opening on your non-shield side though?
@@VirtualFechtschule we have a baskethilt broadsword in the other hand, so it has even more ability to parry than most one handed swords. We train to use the sword first, leading with the dominant hand forward as normal, and only using the shield when necessary if attacks come at the inside. The sword protects the outside. We don't have the front of the shield facing the opponent, it's the rim that points forward and put of the way so that we have full vision, then we can move the rim to intercept and parry (using the true cross) if necessary.
The philosophy is that rather than having a large board that gets in the way of your vision and the proper use of your main tool (the sword), you have a tool in your offhand that is very reliable and easily able to produce strong parries on one side. This reduces the workload on your brain and sword arm, as you only have to consider parries to the outside or cuts down the centre line.
It feels strange at first to have a shield and not to put it between yourself and the opponent, but once you accept that a small shield is there to support your sword (rather than how a hand weapon supports a large shield like the scutum or pavise) it becomes fairly natural. It's mostly kept out of the way to give you options while you use the one handed sword to protect yourself as you normally would.
We have a very similar philosophy with Dirk or cloak.
I will say, I feel some are being a bit rude in their criticisms. It's been interesting watching your perspective and I'd be curious to see how you develop the style and if you discover any weaknesses to the greatsword through sparring. It seems quite easy to time with good placement and footwork.
@@pluemas Cool, thanks for the explanation! I do reckon that working this against a sword with so much more reach will still be very much in favour of a greatsword, but I also think a more competent shield person will indeed still have more than the 10% succes rate we got. I'll make a post about this soon as well, but consider this a well meant invitation: if we ever meet at an event somewhere, I would love to try and redo this sparring setup to see what we can learn from it. :)
Greatswords will always have the advantage but if you HAVE to go up against one without a greatsword yourself, you better hope you have a shield. Preferably one that isn’t just a small square shield but a crusader kite shield or large shield for wider area of protection.
Looks like I gotta study claidheamh mór
Looks like you need a bigger shield, my friend...
Jokes aside, how would this play out if the shield covered more area? Like a Roman shield?
Screaming in the background reminded me of highlander from for honor
DUNMAGLASS
"Forcing the sheild up and restricting vision" I feel like its avoidable depending on how you block and what head protection you have, since some have better vision, some don't. Additionally, I think that the majority of HEMA practitioners are more intrested in fighting with weapons than learning how best to use a sheild, especially since in HEMA your life is never in real danger. Learing how to use a sheild (to the best of ones ability) has a core purpose of, protection. Back in the medieval age this was how you fight, this is how you learn to kill someone, so, learning the sheild, back then, was literally protecting your life, therfore, most definitely more focus would have been put on that. There is many ways to protect yourself from attacks, but, that is the sheilds main, if not, only purpose. There a many sheilds and people and it is very possible that, a sheild in the hands, of someone else, might contradict your analysis/conclusion. Very interesting video, which inspires thinking, have a good day👍
Most shields are gonna block your vision simply because of how u have to grip them, and an awkward parry/block could cause the shield to fling from your arm or injure your wrist so I'd say he's pretty spot on for the most part but of course there will always be exceptions
Sure
But the spear still ruins them both.
Polearms are the true GOAT.
Ignore bows and horses. I wanna be right, and if you bring up bows and horses I'll be wrong. So please dont make me wrong by bringing up bows and horses. My ego needs to believe that polearms are superior.
Thank you.
To counter a great sword one must wield a great shield. One of them giant walls that you slide on the ground
I'm curious to see if a center-grip shield would be more effective. On the one hand, it's not as stable. On the other hand, it's more nimble and you can hold it further from your body for a larger cone of protection.
My teacher in Kansas is a kendo teacher. He won his gold by using sword and shield in tandem and effectively rushing opponents before they can react. In his description and I may be wrong, he said it forced anyone with two hands to attack from certain positions, and by then you’re too close for them to be effective. That’s when grappling comes in strong.
That does describe how it works when I managed to successfully close the distance, but I found that was a real challenge to deal with the reach advantage of a greatsword. There's just a whole lot of ground to cover before you can attempt anything and during that time the greatsword just gets to attack
@@VirtualFechtschule And this isn't even taking into account the types of greatsword that have a ricasso and therefore can be choked to descrease the off-balance in close-up fights.
i think this is where sparring with real weapons makes significant difference. As someone who did this - have you considered the force the greatsword can put out? if its a steel blade BLOCKING it with a shield will break your arm as the shockwafe from the impact travelös through even if the blade doesnt. You can at best hope to deflect the blow to the side but even that is risky. That said with sharp blades and wooden shields you might actually get the greatsword stuck which can be great as you technicly disarm your opponent in special if the shield is strapped to you and he cant easily pull it away. But it better be a good shield or you will be disarmed - literally
Yeah, which is why when we want to actually go fast, we pick foam. It's still unpleasant enough to ensure people don't like getting hit, but you don't have to hold back as much as with steel or nylon and you also don't have to do only very limited almost choreographed things. We do all that, but sometimes it's nice to be able to really go for it in a dynamic setting and that's why foam is great. Precisely because we know what sharp steel is capable of. :D
He identifies as an attack helicopter
the biggest advantage shown in this video isn't the weapon, but rather skill, confidence and physicality. The great sword user is moving around, doing multiple swings, using the space. Everyone else basically is standing still waiting to get hit. Even when they have the numbers, they all gotta follow henchmen rules and go in one at a time.
There's historic teaching though that state if you have a choice between a sword or a shield chose the shield
First time I hear it. I would very much like to see a reference to that source.
@@VirtualFechtschule I can't seem to find the source, however it was in a book or film I read/watched, not a historical piece so that's my is bad!
the context was someone was saying a shield is just for defence so the the person with a shield used the rim to hit him in the neck.
guessing (though your probs more knowageable then me on this point, so i'd love your opinion) but armour seems more of a weakness to a great weapon than a shield right, if you can just "tank" a blow or two without needed to get the shield up you can get in the range?
@@ryan1000011 yeah, I would agree. Tanking is dangerous on the head, but on the body it would be doable, so being in armour really changes things. With a greatsword you can still halfsword to find gaps, but that limits your ability to fight multiple opponents effectively much more than a shield would.
Obviously don't try this, but with a real great sword there's a good chance that it could blow clean through a guard; breaking limbs and shields or just pushing them out the way with its mass and power.
1lbs greatsword, wtf is that practice for
Just feign attacks and back off until ge gets tired. Rope-a-dope. He can't spin that sword around forever.
Agreed, and im curious whether the actual weight of real greatsword will affect the speed of the swing? Either way, they definitely uses a lot more stamina, spinning the greatsword around.
The intimidation of a large weapon in a life and death scenario is very real.
I can see the shields wielders in this video is intimidated already.
In the 17th century greatsword users simply got shot
Makes sense.. way too risky getting in range of that weapon regardless of whether you use a shield or not. Career ender in only one hit and that thing is very quick if the person knows how to use it.
Also most Sheila's are wooden and splinter when hit with heavy sharp metal
Solution? Bigger shield
Or more aggression from the shield user
Provided the multiple attackers never put themselves in range, is the greatsword user going to gas himself out swinging it around as a defence? How long can he 'stay safe' before he slows down?
So the weird helicopter moulinet thing the Geralt does in the Witcher actually makes sense. Huh
Bro chasing the last guy down at the end
Guy owed him gold from his ancestors
Great video! I was wondering how this would play out because it looks like great swords do have a lot of power and not just reach and I was interested because I’m a Soul Calibur player lol. I want to see how a great sword would really do against a sword and shield lol.
A lot of stuff I watch makes it look like all attacks can be blocked. I rarely see a person be knocked off balance from blocking a blow even if this person is much bigger and stronger. If you could block or parry everything, you could block or parry a car lol.
The solution? Get a bigger shield.
Where do I get these toys to swing about?
*_*CRUNCH*_*
*Darksouls 1 moaning death sound effect with you died*
Teamwork tactics need some work. I did some sword play at one point in time. I got kicked out for "being annoying". I'd be the guy batting at your greatsword while your back was turned, just to slow you down and distract you. Then my buddies might get an opening. I really don't think one guy could fight even three people with any level of effectiveness, let alone four. Not doing helicopter moves at least.
what about with a bigger shield? Or was that a pretty common size and was it just too tiring to use a bigger one?
I always thought short people with shields was always effective while tall people with 2 handed weapons(of any kind) were more effective. The angle of the blade would be more difficult if the opponent is shorter. Sort of how proportions of the shields of history had various or entirely different purposes and methods. Like a buckler or a Kite Shield.
The shield and sword probably work better against multiple opponents than the Greatsword, but if the Greatsword can keep people away before they can even make contact...
ok every long weapon surrounded by shorter weapons will ward off people fairly well..... the point is to stand back and wait for the mistake, that's why numbers matter more often than skill other than basic skill. I could prolly argue a little bit with greatsword VS sword and board but to be honest I would prolly argue spear and shield if I had a choice
My biggest problem with hema is the ego and the lack of knowledge! This tactic and technique would be debunked and rejected in a 5-8 years ago!
How much would shields help vs a sharp steel greatsword? Or even a blunt one? Can you make dummie-tests? I am curious on how much the impact is transmitted and how well a shield stands up to the damage.
But greatswords came to popular use in early 16th, was there even footman formation which would use shields at that time? Other than much smaller steel bucklers of course
Longer weapon gets first strike (or thrust). Anyone with a shorter weapon combination has to combat the point (the traditional name of the pointy end you'd not want in thrust in you) first to get into range to strike themselves. The greatsword weilder has two strikes, first is free, the second the opponent is in range to trade blows. Look up the term mordhau to get a deeper appreciation of two handed sword fighting.
If weight of real great sword is same as the fake word, maybe longer sword is better than short sword.
Where is this, looks so fun
Netherlands, but you can do historical fencing or HEMA pretty much anywhere. Just google Hema+ nearest city. :)
This needs to be more popular! I would love to see something like this in the OCTAGON!
& to the Death
Already exists
It*s looks just like barfight. More fist than swords
Finally, 1 brave one came in when greatsword opened up. Should pass it around instead of always having the one person use the gs
A great sword should be considered more like a pole arm than a sword. A pole arm is a primary weapon and a sword is a secondary. It is still not really surprising to see a pole arm come out on top of a sidearm.
Absolutely not if your using a sword that large the weight itself would be a much bigger tool then the length or sharpness if a single downward strike isnt enough to criple or disable your opponent the weapon in not for you
Who would have thought that being able to threaten and reach long and wide all around you would be so effective? (sarcasm)
Yeah well even if you touch his leg first doesn't mean you cut it off. If the guy got an armor well, not sure these swings would do any damage.
Knights probably had great endurance to be able to helicopter that 2 kg metal for long periods though.
Shield blocks WHILE executing the step thrust 😤
ok this looks way cooler than greatsword fighting in movies actually
I think the advantage depends on the shield. If its a kite shield or a scutum it should have the coverage to close the distance fairly easily.
Make it... TWO SHIELDS against a greatsword
Great sword wins by keeping oppenent at a distance short sword and sheild win if great sword over reaches
Im a sword and board hater. Dual wield and Zwei boy. Greatswords forever
El espadon no es tan agil. El escudo debe ser de buena calidad. En el video solo pones espadas cortas, pero no esta como pelea de ella. Falta probar la espada largar sirve igual con escudo.
Great sword would weigh so much more than they are acting like. Dude would get tired swinging it around like that
another dumb groupfight scenario? get over yourself lol
Grrrr. No. Advantage. Against. Shield. 😂
In open field it performs great, but in enclosed space you better have a shorter sword.
I wish guns didnt make war lame and for fruity men. These were the days when real men ruled the battlefield.
Is there a threat of a great sword user getting tired out?
I like how this shows most media gets spinning wrong in sword combat. The sword spins a lot more than the person does
Armor.
Bottom line, it isn't good enough to be good with a greatsword. It's in the name.
Looks like the great sword wasn't meant for longer engagaments.
Let's all be the thankful we weren't born in the middle ages.
what about a bigger shield? Like roman shield big.
Numbers will get you.
Great sword:: hold my beer
I always love that greatsword kick
So the thing with the great sword is to keep its momentum up i guess?
I know greatswords and long swords are super popular, but I would love to see more sword and board work on the internet. Shields are criminally underrated n modern media, and historically they’re the main reason anyone survived a battle at all! There’s so much focus on HEMA these days, so why can’t we get regular shield drills too? I personally love my buckler, it’s a game changer, but I only know of a few ways to use it, and there HAS to be more, I know how a zweihander can beat a shield, but why don’t I know how to beat a zweihander with a shield?
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Schools that do Bolognese fencing should theoretically do some Sidesword and Rotella, meaning they'd be quite good at the sword and board thing. Outside of Italy and Spain though, shields had kinda stopped being used in such combat roles by the time lots of fight books were written, so any approach to shield that isn't rotella is going to be very experimental by nature. Which, I suspect, scares off some people
Nice shield.
Thanks! :)
@@VirtualFechtschule It is a Hand Pavise shield right? Where is it from or who made it? I like the shape.
@@ArmouredProductions I built that one myself some years ago, based on 15th century examples
Now a video of how to make that shield. Looks gerat.
Thanks. Maybe I'll get to crafting videos at some point. First make sure I have time to do some crafting though. 😅
2D6 beats 1D8 +2 AC most of the time in real life
Of course it has an advantage if the shield user just agrees to stand at the greatsword's range, lol.
You can try charging in, but you'll have very high chance of probably dying or being completely crippled for life if the greatsword user knows what to do. It's an uphill battle trying to fight that weapon with a shorter ranged weapon even with a shield. It's not a slow weapon at all, it can hit very hard and it has a big area of threat since it's a sword.
I guess there's a reason they are called great swords.
I think your Shield's a little bit small
Sword and board gotta Leroy Jenkins.
This does not work in formation combat…
Wasnt the point of great swords to literally just be swung around constantly to deny the enemy advance
maybe a kite shield would be better against a great sword
But they fell out of use centuries before the Greatsword came into being so it’s an unreasonable comparison