Educational Highlight: How to Play Cursed Hollow - Strategy, Tips & Tricks!

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @FanHOTS
    @FanHOTS  4 года назад +272

    Cold Viking(Editor) and I would love to hear any thoughts or constructive feedback about videos like this one as well, feel free to leave all your thoughts here and we will read them all! This is a new experimental format for educational videos.

    • @giahypham4817
      @giahypham4817 4 года назад +42

      This is amazing Fan!! We want more!

    • @bigpoppa2000
      @bigpoppa2000 4 года назад +25

      please do more like this i love this

    • @Kazumayako
      @Kazumayako 4 года назад +14

      Very good video man, i love to watch ur videos bc u make it ez to understand the maps and ur desicions on each one

    • @Ylifaien
      @Ylifaien 4 года назад +3

      I watch your stream and videos all the time, this is enjoyable as well, and I know if I want to watch full game play you have them on your channel. Keep it up!

    • @Don_Hide
      @Don_Hide 4 года назад +9

      This is SO GOOD. Keep it up please.

  • @Aleahasummer
    @Aleahasummer 4 года назад +60

    I really like this style. It makes it clear what you are trying to do, while explaining why you think this is the correct decision. Its easy to forget that HOTS has elements other MOBA games do not, and people don't always realize the fundamental differences between them, so many people focus on team fighting way more than they should in HOTS. It is appreciated when you bereak it down into basics for those who are new

    • @Apoz
      @Apoz 4 года назад +1

      IMO for quite a lot of maps in HOTS: Macro(exp)>Forts>>Pressure(camps/lanes)>Proper lossless ganks(2v1)>siege(any building dmg in general)>pick-offs(3/4v1)>Bosses>Map objectives>Teamfighting>brawling.
      Any opinion on this @fan?
      Loving the map guides man, would be great to implement some kind of priority list like mine on each map. (with more explanation than I did)

    • @Apoz
      @Apoz 4 года назад

      I'd like to add something a lot of people lack and which is not easy/apparent to see: Quick decisionmaking/fast reactions. If you choose to try to get a pick-off, mount up midlane right away, go fast, if you see botlane backed off which makes it unlikely you're going to kill that person or gives the enemy midlaners the opportunity to catch-up. Back off quickly, get midlane exp quickly and asses+change priorities with haste. Don't idle in botlane, don't jump on the botlaner without being able to kill him or whatever.
      APM (Actions per minute) Are farrr underutilized in HOTS.

    • @nicholasleask1159
      @nicholasleask1159 4 года назад +1

      Explaining to my friends that Hanumura camps are more important then objective. I need actual resources to point them to like this!

    • @Apoz
      @Apoz 4 года назад

      @@nicholasleask1159 I'd start by explaining why they are more important. I'd say they (camps) aren't as important in hanamura as in other maps. Reason being they are just there to distract the enemies and make the enemy think the objective is more important rather than the lanes its selves. As you can deduct, it entirely depends on what kind of enemies you are facing, depending on their ability to quickly clear the elite camp, it might actually add more value. And perhaps the timing of the camp might be more crucial, or the frequency of the camp might be more crucial.

    • @onkelpappkov2666
      @onkelpappkov2666 2 года назад

      2 years late to the party. Hana shopping cart is ~19-22k siege in ~30s if uncontested (several minutes if contested). That's roughly 650 dps MAX. That's the damage you can lose by allocating heroes to push it to make it a zero sum outcome. If you send more than 650 dps in heroes, you actively lose damage.
      If you send 5 heroes, you can just afk at base for the same result. Your team has ~1000 dps early game, so you are choosing to do less damage on purpose IF nobody stops the cart and you can just run through. If they stall it, you lose far more.
      The ideal outcome is if a Viking pushes the cart solo and doesn't get contested. The main problem about sending someone solo is that you lose that hero everywhere else on the map, giving your enemies a perfect shot at killing everyone in 5v4 / 4v3 /... fights -- or that solo hero gets ganked.
      In addition to actively losing damage (you thought this was it?), you're also actively losing all XP on the map, setting you up for defeat at the hands of a stronger enemy if they play right.
      In addition to the active loss of damage on structures and the active long-term loss of hero power, you also often lose the opportunity cost of camps. You can often do vision when on the cart but not Sentinel and Turret.
      Moreover, if your enemies abuse your team being afk, you also lose the defense against their push. If their solo laner goes core, you lose all your buildings. A solo laner can usually get fort easily if left alone. The cart gets a wall and some damage on fort.
      This is why the shopping cart sucks major balls. Also, it's hella boring but whatever.

  • @rbruch98
    @rbruch98 4 года назад +71

    I really enjoyed this - short, sweet, to the point, pretty dense with information, good editing. I know it's a bite-size edit of your stream, but I much prefer your style of delivery as opposed to the ramblings of NotParadox.

    • @rafael6693
      @rafael6693 4 года назад +4

      Notparadox is very good on how he explains the macro play. he is also a gm.

    • @Kashiarii
      @Kashiarii 4 года назад +5

      @@rafael6693 It is not that NotParadox is bad, but this is much better.

    • @rbruch98
      @rbruch98 4 года назад +1

      @@rafael6693 NotParadox is really good. He even delves in to the psychological-play which I do enjoy... But... To equate him to someone in the Tech RUclipsr spectrum, I'd almost lump his style with Buildzoid - pretty free-form, he tends to go on tangents and ramble.

    • @griff3n69
      @griff3n69 4 года назад

      @@rafael6693 i watch both and for me this was better because It felt more loose and casual. It was also shorter yet very informative. I learn alot from watching fan play as well as for the lulz moments.
      Now for me I still watch alot of notparadox and prefer when he does the do this not that shorter episodes compared to his 30minute ones. His videos are very detailed and informative and helpful and what I usually watch for hero guides. I also watched some zanehyde and jhow guides recently as well.
      I dunno maybe it's just me but this video felt more like a casual study tutor session and not paradox like a classroom course. Both are good and provide excellent information.

    • @demonas150
      @demonas150 4 года назад

      Both are great players and you can learn a lot from them, they are just different...

  • @mishization
    @mishization 4 года назад +25

    Please more videos like this!! In a recent video, you said that a lot of people know how to play their heroes but not how to play the game. I'd love to see more videos where you dissect macro play/ strategies, cause we all know your micro is flawless

  • @nicolasvillasecaali7662
    @nicolasvillasecaali7662 4 года назад +53

    Alternative title:
    Minimap DLC user Guide: Cursed Hollow

    • @WestPictures
      @WestPictures 4 года назад +2

      Minimap DLC is only unlocked once you reach level 500, feels bad

  • @garyfung6222
    @garyfung6222 4 года назад +43

    more people need to see this

    • @quocdanhduy1685
      @quocdanhduy1685 4 года назад

      Yup

    • @Samhaiine
      @Samhaiine 4 года назад

      I literally type in almost every game when people are headless chicken to go watch fan and learn stuff 🐔🐔

  • @R2robot
    @R2robot 4 года назад +8

    It's amazing how much value is packed into this short video.

  • @Piohm
    @Piohm 4 года назад +8

    Educational content by Fan? Yes please!

  • @Kraily4t8
    @Kraily4t8 4 года назад +15

    really explanatory and gives a good insight into your decision making in a game, compared to the potato mentality of 5v5 fights over obj and forget doing anything else

  • @hammurabitheawesome674
    @hammurabitheawesome674 4 года назад +10

    We absolutely need more of these. I watched a ton of Fan videos and he always has amazing tricks he says out of nowhere or because of someone in chat asking. That Anub analysis video and this are great. I'd love to see more for other maps or specific heroes.

  • @Archangel913
    @Archangel913 4 года назад +11

    More of this! Excellent editing (honestly!) and content. Much appreciated!

  • @vladgaraba4022
    @vladgaraba4022 4 года назад +5

    More of this stuff, please! It's really helpful and I would like to hear such suggestions on all heroes! Thanks

  • @Brendan123ization
    @Brendan123ization 4 года назад +6

    This video was awesome guys, super informative and short and to the point with very good editing and slick music. Perfect video. More please.

  • @fiorellapalomino4204
    @fiorellapalomino4204 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for translating this kind of videos! The latam community really apretiate iiit :)

    • @FanHOTS
      @FanHOTS  4 года назад +2

      Full Credit to CoolPartner for the community translations!

  • @DrkAzmodaus
    @DrkAzmodaus 4 года назад +2

    I love everything about this vid. The focus on timing showing the thought process everything. This is a Hots Streamer masterpiece

  • @epi4625
    @epi4625 4 года назад +2

    These videos are EXTREMELY informative and clear. I would LOVE to see more of these based on the other maps. The minimap zooms to let you know what’s going in the game and why you’re doing what you’re doing is awesome and the editing is excellent. Definitely more please!

  • @noetorresromero9675
    @noetorresromero9675 4 года назад +5

    i love it, i actually started giving advices to my team based on what i see in your videos and when ever my team listens i usually win the game.

  • @JWelson9980
    @JWelson9980 4 года назад +1

    This video was amazing!! I watch Fan daily and learn tons, but having it edited down like this to focus on the Golden nuggets was is an awesome teaching tool!

  • @fdsfds7339
    @fdsfds7339 4 года назад +1

    The numbers on the screen and the zoom ins that corresponded with what you were talking about was a really nice touch and made me feel like I learned something even though I already watched you play this game. I enjoyed it very much

  • @lCoolPartner
    @lCoolPartner 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the translation to spanish. A lot of ppl from latam community needs to learn about this mechanics. This really helps a lot. Thank you 😊

  • @jamesr7637
    @jamesr7637 4 года назад +2

    This was actually really cool, and the editing is on point. I like the minimap flair ups, and the focus to detail.
    Please more :)!

  • @Chaiberry
    @Chaiberry 4 года назад +8

    Awesome video! To the point AND entertaining. Could you guys make one on those kinds of maps where you need to split up to cap two objectives at once, like dragon shire or braxis holdout?

  • @giovanniferrara8727
    @giovanniferrara8727 4 года назад +1

    Instructional videos like this are always appreciated. Most of the players are in silver and gold league and the fastest way to improve is by understanding all this macro aspects of the game. If you add to that this wonderful editing, which is
    absolutely fool proof, then you give us everything we could wish for. If you want a suggestion make videos like this for every map and create a nice playlist (which you already did) and then if you will do Hero guides i suggest you to create a different playlist. I wish you well.

  • @limewhite4593
    @limewhite4593 4 года назад +2

    This is literary the BEST tips video on gaming i’ve ever watched, this is sooo eficient, yes i can Spell

  • @samseloo4962
    @samseloo4962 4 года назад +5

    Would love to see this for other maps and situations like drafting and carrying or making comebacks etc. The editing was superb amazing job!

  • @Shykeful
    @Shykeful 4 года назад +1

    The quality of this channel is improving steadily, damn nice job! Tiny things such as he "sidestep king" intro are minor but meaningful details. Very, very good job, man!

  • @SYWPiano
    @SYWPiano 4 года назад +1

    Fan this is by far the best video. Just the fact that you are explaining your decision making is really educational.

  • @Stroopwafels112
    @Stroopwafels112 4 года назад +1

    Easily understandable and concise information. The editing is done really well too.
    The only constructive feedback I can give is at 5:48 you explain that 'if we ran from here to here instead of here to here' The visual clarity disappears because you're clicking the minimap so fast. You could solve that by zooming in on the minimap and supporting the info with arrows.
    Thanks Fan & Cold Viking. You're a great team!

  • @yoannyo913
    @yoannyo913 4 года назад +1

    Thank you editor. Fan's Twitch stream has alot of educational content, and he answers chat's questions about the game. It just doesn't translate to RUclips as much as we would like, hopefully you get good feedback and we get more like this.

  • @ivanchavez1736
    @ivanchavez1736 4 года назад +1

    Great explanation for cursed hollow, hope you could do more videos like this for the new players and also for medium player who want to get better, really enjoyed it

  • @Aliwishes789
    @Aliwishes789 4 года назад +1

    I would love more videos like this. Nice addition to have the subtitles in Spanish. Thanks to CoolPartner for the translation. & Shout out to bot left

  • @xavozz7839
    @xavozz7839 4 года назад +3

    Yees that's what I was always waiting for. Getting insight in the best players head for information about playing the right macro game (that even a correct English sentence? Dunno, nvm ;D) . Love this, please make more of this!!
    Cheers

  • @PouyaKhadem
    @PouyaKhadem 4 года назад +1

    This format is the way to go sir! Great job

  • @shandorunia
    @shandorunia 4 года назад

    Please do this for all the maps. So well explained and the general idea of how to do things is made very clear. If it helps any new players it will be good for the game. Really like the way you did it. I saw this live and thought it should be on youtube. You answered my players. Nice guide . More please!
    The return of the 4th man skills.

  • @lunyuen9091
    @lunyuen9091 4 года назад +2

    Hey fan please make more of these! Really helpful! Sometimes I wish you could explain a bit more when you play certain heroes too

  • @marcusnykvist5216
    @marcusnykvist5216 4 года назад +1

    As much as I enjoy watching you screech at potatoes, videos like this are really nice as I aim to improve my play and your insight is incredibly valuable. More of this please!

  • @fabiocannavacciuolo8410
    @fabiocannavacciuolo8410 4 года назад

    Quick, direct and efficient. Well done Fan and editor! I suggest you to extend this format to some specific clips which show why certain heroes and builds work in that situation.

  • @brothercoyote4828
    @brothercoyote4828 4 года назад +2

    I love this type of video.

  • @SCEmissary
    @SCEmissary 4 года назад +1

    I like this video format. The typical videos are informative and entertaining, this video puts all the information in a nutshell. It mixes tips for the map with tips for Raynor but I think it's ok . You could try to split it but I see it just as additional information.

  • @alexhernandez2963
    @alexhernandez2963 4 года назад +1

    I love this educational content. Please more videos like this!

  • @codygallagher8941
    @codygallagher8941 4 года назад +1

    Super helpful, would love to see this on the other maps as well

  • @ghostarstar
    @ghostarstar 4 года назад +2

    Like this a lot! Definitely want to see more! More maps, heroes, and maybe picks and counter picks.

  • @iXom9k
    @iXom9k 4 года назад +11

    And dont forget the main tips - IF Y CAN FINISH, IF Y CAN JUST GO CORE - DO IT! not camp not one more keep - GO CORE!

    • @fabiocannavacciuolo8410
      @fabiocannavacciuolo8410 4 года назад

      I would add also: invading camps when possible is better than going to yours and still watch the enemies' camps being taken!

  • @aminhamidi393
    @aminhamidi393 4 года назад

    Great job editor , that's a good summary and judging by the previous edits you've improved a LOT which is applausible tbh, you must've put a lot of work into it, "good work kid" Jimmeh approves

  • @JIerark
    @JIerark 4 года назад +2

    Kaelthas really scars people in gold so every red circle from then onward is like war flashbacks
    Great video it was easy to follow and very informative

  • @aldoavila2254
    @aldoavila2254 4 года назад +2

    Amazing amazing vid. Great editing, to the point, good insight this si what most players Need. Good work Fan and editor :D

  • @ЗмейПодзаборный
    @ЗмейПодзаборный 4 года назад +1

    Quality of your videos is better and better. As for me, i really like it. Keep it up. Waiting for other map guides.

  • @sorenlampe951
    @sorenlampe951 4 года назад +3

    Hi fan i started hots a few weeks ago and would love to see more videos like this! I liked the edits for spawntimers too. Maybe some words for the objective itself wouldve helped even more. 👍🏻

  • @andremuslimdubari
    @andremuslimdubari 4 года назад +1

    Wow this is actually great. Keep up the great work Fan

  • @Aureliius
    @Aureliius 4 года назад

    I would love to see more educational videos! short and straight. Topics 1) when do camps and how to rotate between lanes 2) how to play your role (tank, 2x tank, Range assassin, healer) 3) how to pick in league

  • @SOROTARA
    @SOROTARA 4 года назад +1

    amazing, thanks, very informative and insightful. would definitely ask for more similar content

  • @Shilag
    @Shilag 4 года назад +1

    This is a really great video, and I'd love to see more educational stuff like it in the future. Very good commentary, and the editing helps emphasize everything Fan said. The one minor nitpick I'll say it to be aware of how the end screen blocks up part of the screen at the end. Those last few graphics from the editing weren't really readable because of the end screen.

  • @benni_crafter4931
    @benni_crafter4931 4 года назад +1

    This is education!! This isn't only entertaining, what you always are, i think you can get better for real with these videos.
    I mean should we ever beat you Fan when noone explains this to us.
    I love this this format and your streams and everything you do too!!!

  • @eget4144
    @eget4144 4 года назад +1

    Nice one. A little back ground music made this better than silent videos too.

  • @noisetank13
    @noisetank13 4 года назад +2

    Aw man, I really enjoyed you getting bodyblocked by ETC and two other people in a complete box and still somehow living through it.

  • @2Namii
    @2Namii 4 года назад +1

    would love more vids like this, extremely helpful

  • @fr1sket363
    @fr1sket363 4 года назад

    The editing on this was amazing, top job.

  • @tyrantonion6660
    @tyrantonion6660 4 года назад +1

    I liked it a lot. More educational Highlights please!

  • @solarupdraft
    @solarupdraft 4 года назад +1

    I'll be here for as many of these as you make!

  • @gehtdoch2008
    @gehtdoch2008 4 года назад +1

    I really loved the video! Just returned to hots after a long break and it feels like i forgot the game. Would really appreciate it, if you make more of these kind of videos :)

  • @rema0126
    @rema0126 4 года назад +1

    This is the type of video Ive been waiting for. Amazing, helpful summary of a vid. Ive also got some questions as well:
    1. What do you do if you are playing someone who cant clear mercs and/or your team wont clear them and wont listen for pings or chat?
    2. Mid to late game, before, or just before 20, where youre behind on xp, is it worth more to get a kill or two with the team or keep soaking the lanes safely?
    3. How do I get my pepega teammate friends (who are also in voicechat) to listen to my callouts and start calling out more themselves if they see something like "lets push this keep"
    4. How often should I check or glance at the map?
    5. How do I get out of habbit of having my camera mostly locked onto me?
    Keep up the good work!

  • @MLawson5
    @MLawson5 4 года назад +1

    Awesome content, really cool to see from you Fan. Thank you

  • @xnick_uy
    @xnick_uy 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video. In this particular example game, I think that some of the decisions are also affected by the team comps. For instance, the presence of Alexstrasza changes the way the tributes are going to be fighted over. All the heroes in the blue team are very good at clearing minion waves. Having KT and ETC on the read team pretty much forces the blue team to spread around (except for Alex's W). And so on...

  • @correx96
    @correx96 4 года назад +1

    Loving this format

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz 4 года назад +1

    APOZ REPOST:
    In my opinion, for quite a lot of maps in HOTS: Macro(exp)>Forts/keeps>>Pressure(camps/lanes)>Proper lossless ganks(2v1)>siege(any building dmg in general)>pick-offs(3/4v1)>Bosses>Map objectives>Teamfighting>brawling.
    Any opinion on this @fan?
    Loving the map guides man, would be great to implement some kind of priority list like mine on each map. (with more explanation than I did. Because obviously when you take a boss, it influences other things 'higher' up in the order)

  • @Theonki3
    @Theonki3 4 года назад +1

    Liked this format!

  • @TheKaiBear
    @TheKaiBear 4 года назад +1

    Great breakdown Fan

  • @DeuceGenius
    @DeuceGenius 4 года назад +1

    showing build at the end is always great too. i wish you could see some of my gazlowe games since ive been watching your videos lol. ive learned a ton. potatoes cant deal with 50% slow

  • @killininstinct343
    @killininstinct343 4 года назад +1

    I would really find it awesome if you made more vids like these, also for Heroes like Butch or Alarak in-depth guides on like how or what build you have to play against certain heroes, comps or roles. Probably asking a bit too much there, but it would really be cool

  • @Wolfenstein1942
    @Wolfenstein1942 4 года назад +3

    The scary big red circle 😆

  • @helenaprimera516
    @helenaprimera516 4 года назад +1

    Very educational, thanks for the effort

  • @AngelofDeathGG
    @AngelofDeathGG 4 года назад +1

    Faaaaan!!! more videos like this. I really wanna get out of diamond and be master! It would be awesome more advice for each map. Furthermore include videos of tier list heroes per month.

  • @nathang7766
    @nathang7766 4 года назад +1

    Great video my man!

  • @pec3144
    @pec3144 4 года назад +1

    this is dope, I been holding giants for minute 2 every match so we will be at objective and they would be pushing but now I see the value! do more maps plz! thanks for the video

  • @Tony-wo6rl
    @Tony-wo6rl 4 года назад +1

    Learned a lot and love this content.

  • @Serafiniush1
    @Serafiniush1 4 года назад +1

    great job would love to see more

  • @mb10637
    @mb10637 4 года назад +2

    Keep it up! Do more maps too :)
    PS: can you do a video over lost Vikings?

  • @KristjanKask
    @KristjanKask 4 года назад +1

    Good stuff, more please!

  • @DeuceGenius
    @DeuceGenius 4 года назад +1

    more like this more like this cant wait to watch.

  • @Dantalian_
    @Dantalian_ 4 года назад +1

    Nice , need this for all maps !!!

  • @briansanders5626
    @briansanders5626 4 года назад +1

    Sick content, please do more!

  • @bjornladholm4011
    @bjornladholm4011 4 года назад +1

    Excellent tips fan.

  • @stevehabura106
    @stevehabura106 4 года назад

    Love hearing from the pros. If you could do instructional vids on character tips I’d watch also.

  • @thomasmetzinger8857
    @thomasmetzinger8857 4 года назад

    Thank you Cold Viking for this video. This elevator music though :-D
    Fan, how do you want me to climb the ladders if you give such good insights about the game!? This video is entertaining AND educational. Someone in the comments wrote you are THE hots reference right now. I can only + that...
    Finally when you've reached 10k viewers on Twitch/RUclips Blizzard will listen to you asking them to add the overmind as hero ;)
    Keep your passion and the good work toward that cool game! Peace guys!

  • @DDmegadoodoo
    @DDmegadoodoo 4 года назад +1

    Glad you're making these videos. Plan on doing anything for Memphisto?

  • @basicrandon2828
    @basicrandon2828 4 года назад +1

    Sup FAN and COLD, ImYonko here. This is a GREAT video, actually wondered if there were more, but this was NEW NEW! LOL. . . IMO: I think when you put text on the screen, ie Hyperion vs Raider, you should let the text stay on the screen longer. Its so that people could actually digest your video in ONE go. Rather them rewinding and pausing it to really let the information settle into their memory banks. BUT thats it for now, will re-watch this tomorrow again to help out with other comments of the video.

  • @wirusz9145
    @wirusz9145 4 года назад +2

    MORE!

  • @carlopalomino2406
    @carlopalomino2406 4 года назад +2

    Qué bueno que esté en español!

  • @Cormalex
    @Cormalex 4 года назад

    Senpai hitting us with his supreme knowledge.. Ty!

  • @黃仲曄
    @黃仲曄 4 года назад +1

    Thx for this, I really need it.

  • @im_ocai4996
    @im_ocai4996 4 года назад +1

    One of the best videos i've ever seen (sorry 4my potato english)

  • @coreysayre1376
    @coreysayre1376 4 года назад +1

    As a certified potato, I fully endorse the Big Red Circle Theory(TM). Long before I even knew the names of the heroes I was fighting, let alone what they could do, I was regularly sacrificing many a team member to the all mighty and unknowable red shapes, the bigger ones especially.

  • @pun15h3r.
    @pun15h3r. 4 года назад

    nice vid man, always love such quick informative videos that helps me improve :D
    thx 4 the work man!
    keep up the awesome work!

  • @RemoWest
    @RemoWest 4 года назад +1

    Good video. Valla FTW!

  • @Fernando.U
    @Fernando.U 4 года назад +1

    excelente tutorial, ojala te de la inspiración y ganas para hacer lo mismo con el resto de los mapas y con distintos heroes colega, 10/10.

  • @Sarx88
    @Sarx88 4 года назад +1

    Love this, please make all maps

  • @CasualCritics
    @CasualCritics 4 года назад

    Like bonus material on a dvd. Dig it!

  • @Saulius1993
    @Saulius1993 4 года назад +1

    These are brilliant! :)

  • @miguelnery1272
    @miguelnery1272 4 года назад +1

    I think it’s great! Maybe add subtitles for easier comprehension of non-native english speakers o/ (like myself)

  • @lucabaldassi6024
    @lucabaldassi6024 4 года назад +2

    Expected an april fools video
    Found a serious guide and learned something