They are when one of the best mage players in the world is tricking on people. Paladins/Warriors are far easier, less complicated, and generally better. An average arms/fury warrior is blasting past an average arcane mage in DPS. Check the logs lol
@@JohnSmith-rr3jtmage isn’t easy. If you say mage is easy you gotta say every other class in the game is even easier. Because most classes are brain dead nowadays, I’m not a mage player btw but mage has historically always been seen as one of the hardest classes to master there are
he do be kinda right though, lots of classes have that 1 lockdown button. But the closest thing a mage has is glacial spike which is not a stun, only applies to frost spec, and is one of the hardest spells to get off on a mage because of the long cast time and people naturally knowing that it's gonna "hurt".
"Only hybrids can heal and pure dps cant self heal while I ignore the fact, that hybrids do the same dmg as pure dps" yeah bulletproof logic right there. Especially after comparing it to TBC while talking about self healing passive on Warrior when Warrior had actually lot of passive self healing in TBC PvP xD.
Didn’t get at first you idea of desperate pvp talent sheet but with you elaborate on the pvp info I agree so many details and info diff then pvp is good to have for new and old people for wow if I start the game as whichever class specs and don’t know nerf of an 30% dmg buff etc I just be confused would be more better and cleaner to just see that info instead of looking wowhead or outside sites for basic information which should be in game
100% agree any pure melee or range dps class shouldn't be able to heal and pump unless your a pure hybrid dps that sacrifices dps for survivability it's a very dumb feature blizz did trying to make wow more solo friendly
Not a very believable take here from Xar claiming he can't even finish a dps class much less a healer as he is making 2v1 videos all over the place killing pika in every other video...just saying I see Aeghis landing DB sheeps and snowdrifts all while 2v1ing people. Mage is just fine and claiming there is no point to pressing poly so he doesn't bind it is just a temper tantrum.
Reverting gameplay back to Xaryu's suggestions would still drive a lot of players away from PvP. And if you want to cut heals, don't forget mage absorb shields.
Dungeon fighter has had tournament play in korea since early 2010s. They have always had pve skill tooltips and pvp skill tooltip. Some abilities work differently in pvp etc. Its been done correctly many times in othwr games. Blizzard just lazy because why cater to the 5 percent pvp player base when 95 percent of the game plays pve
14:00 ok then mages lose all their CC lol Swear to god xaryu is the biggest crybaby ever. No matter how broken mage is, its just never enough for him lol.
Two players that are playing the most overpowered classes in the game, effortlessly winning 1v2 scenarios while talking about how their class needs another stun and a gap-closing ability. Seriously, Xaryu, mages don’t need another stun-they need a complete rework, not just a nerf. The class feels completely detached from the rest of *World of Warcraft*, with so many tools to secure kills that it seems like they were designed specifically to dominate duels.And you want to give mages another real stun? Maybe give that to warriors instead, along with more healing. You always complain about warriors healing against you, but I rarely see you lose to them-in fact, you beat them with ease most of the time. Instead of making mages even more efficient just because you're bored after playing them for 10 years, how about we buff warriors instead. Xaryu, why don’t you switch to a warrior and see the real issues? You’ll find plenty to complain about, I assure you. Try going 1v2 with a warrior and see how that goes for you. I bet you wouldn’t even win a 1v1 as easily. If you prove warriors are truly strong, I’ll give you credit. Do some duels and 1v2s with warriors to show us that you're a real duelist, not just someone abusing an overpowered class. To me, that doesn’t count as being a good PvP player. If you’re so skilled, play a warrior.
Melee don't need insta gap closers they already have nearly 100% uptime what are you talking about lol. Melee literally just get to zug zug for free all their abilities are instant like huh casters literally have to juke 20392309 interupts get mini stunned 2039820392309 times etc etc melee are by far superior to casters and have been for a long time. Ret alone has 2 steeds 2 freedoms sac bubble a blind hoj bop and range abilities that hit like a truck. XD
WoW doesn’t have PvP for years. You can see that by numbers of people who watch PvP videos and viewers streams. Also blizzard already said to us that PvP is not a core product for WoW, that’s why PvP atm looks like M+ with thousands of pets and most abilities are aoe. They do things for PvE mainly and then adjust what’s left for PvP.
"its like that because the game is designed around 3v3" bruh how is that fun...not being able to kill anything and healers with 80 percent mana the entire time....how is that good design around 3v3 let alone the rest of pvp...the healer literally spams heals the entire time and gains mana haha but "3v3 feels so good" smfh copium is so strong
13:29 yeah no, shut up Mage if they do that your class would be fucking nuts with all that burst, cc, utility and mobility; The last thing Blizzard wants is to get feedback from a passenger Mage player; Same for Venruki but he atleast plays the game more than this guy.
Ah, yes, it's better to have everyone healing all the time. This is why most of the player base doesn't play retail pvp. They play other versions of the game, or they play pve. Your bogus take on "a passenger" can as easily be flipped. You can't see the mountains for the peaks. You're stuck climbing the slopes, and he rode the gondola to the summit.
When I saw xar 2v1 those guys…. All I could think was nerf paladin…
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
ROFL
True..
Lol I love how they still call on Aggrend even though it's for retail
MoP warrior with second wind was insane
Just the right video to start the evening.
kudos to thumbnail art. chair is too good.
Xaryu is just upset he doesn’t have deep freeze
i have 2 questions:
1. which addon makes that cursor hand outline? its insane, i need it!
2. what is that dps meter?!
ps you guys are great! :)
dps meter is just a custom skin on Details, ita going around a lot now cuz its looks amazing!
idk bout the cursor tho
Cursor is a weak aura idk its name thi check savix ret is back video
@@zayon0170how does one activate that custom dps meter skin?!
Same video
Xaryu: 2 v 1's high level players with ease
Xaryu: I wish mages had a stun cause I can't do my damage
Mages are unironically the strongest class in the game right now, there is no way Xaryu isn't doing a bit xD
They are when one of the best mage players in the world is tricking on people. Paladins/Warriors are far easier, less complicated, and generally better. An average arms/fury warrior is blasting past an average arcane mage in DPS. Check the logs lol
@@NoahVanceFishing Mage player detected lol, stop sandbanging. Mage is easy as shit and always has been. Its just OP as fuck end of story.
@@NoahVanceFishing Mage is broken in pvp right now period
@@JohnSmith-rr3jtmage isn’t easy. If you say mage is easy you gotta say every other class in the game is even easier. Because most classes are brain dead nowadays, I’m not a mage player btw but mage has historically always been seen as one of the hardest classes to master there are
@@JohnSmith-rr3jtIm not saying that mage is too hard, but if mage is easy then every other dps class is a joke when it comes to skillcap
Great vídeo as allways Savix :D. PD: Can u share ur weakauras for the cursor ? i really like it and good vibes!!
How did u remove the questbar under the map?
he do be kinda right though, lots of classes have that 1 lockdown button. But the closest thing a mage has is glacial spike which is not a stun, only applies to frost spec, and is one of the hardest spells to get off on a mage because of the long cast time and people naturally knowing that it's gonna "hurt".
Whats the addon that shows the CDs on the right side of their hp bar? ty
You liking Templar slash and herald of the sun better than crusading strikes and Templar?
"my class dont have a 5 million shield" XD
you know the game completly fried when a mage is healing more than a hybrid class,
yo Sav my friends are either playing ret/ele or ret/rsham, what should I play with either?
anyone know which cursor addon sav is using?
What is his damage meter addon called? is that details with a new skin?
05:02 Was Xar about to call them bots but saved it LMAO?!
im almost 74 now, looks fun
You got this!
I am personally having some fun in PvP at 80 :)
Savix is back, tun tun tun tun
Snow drift is actually pretty good tho.
the guy that wants to balanced playing with the guy that wants to be broken how is this possible!!!! I guess we are in another dimension
Anyone know how to get the nameplates to say 1 and 2 like that in arena? Thanks!
@@kzold69 I know hmu
Yep I’m 36 this year still playing from time to time lol
I need that plater profile it looks awesome
Commenting for the algorithm.
How do you get Details to look like that?
Looks so clean
I think thats the "War Within" Skin for Details, just look it up in curseforge or whatever you use.
when 2 range classes come together
Savix is the type of guy that lose the fight and still have fun. 👌
ohhhhh shiiii THE duo has arrived!
mage is op
what details profile is that?
Hi, what is that nameplate addon?
damn ... my duo mage and i (ret) have the exact same debates and fights ... with the same bad faith about our own classes ...
feels like home
12:28 how did the warr heal as much as a hybrid pressing tons of wogs??
This was amazing.
the right title of the video is "BULLYING ARENAS WITH XARYU"
@@vakricsi I'll bully you cutie? You ready for our make gora? What was your address again?
Lmao Savix calling for aggrend in wow retail is hilarious
Bro thought he plays he Xaryu, but this is actually his twin brother - Yarxu
Is that. New addon for dps meter? 😊
"Only hybrids can heal and pure dps cant self heal while I ignore the fact, that hybrids do the same dmg as pure dps" yeah bulletproof logic right there. Especially after comparing it to TBC while talking about self healing passive on Warrior when Warrior had actually lot of passive self healing in TBC PvP xD.
if you played herald of the sun cleave build you would've 1v2 those melee.
Ohhhhh shiiiiit time to watch some slappage ofc
I have to agree with xar's balancing
As a fellow ret main since TBC, it's time to reroll to monk Sav
Xar want his class to be completely 100% viable in 1v1s. But no PvP game mode is 1v1 based, so theres no reason every class should be like that.
Didn’t get at first you idea of desperate pvp talent sheet but with you elaborate on the pvp info I agree so many details and info diff then pvp is good to have for new and old people for wow if I start the game as whichever class specs and don’t know nerf of an 30% dmg buff etc I just be confused would be more better and cleaner to just see that info instead of looking wowhead or outside sites for basic information which should be in game
About to sleep and see xar and savix
glad to see u guys back in the arena, u should come to eu, so i can pwn u guys :D
Is it gay to think savix is giga handsome?
Yes sussyy faq
Maybe a bit but thats fine too
yes but no issue at all
Yes
You just gotta say no homo
Pretty sure every class but mage has stun could be wrong but I don’t think I am.
🔨 💡 + 🧊 📚
you two are hilarious :)
Blizzard will buff mages if they see that
im edging to this vid rn
They havent so much fun!
100% agree any pure melee or range dps class shouldn't be able to heal and pump unless your a pure hybrid dps that sacrifices dps for survivability it's a very dumb feature blizz did trying to make wow more solo friendly
Not a very believable take here from Xar claiming he can't even finish a dps class much less a healer as he is making 2v1 videos all over the place killing pika in every other video...just saying I see Aeghis landing DB sheeps and snowdrifts all while 2v1ing people. Mage is just fine and claiming there is no point to pressing poly so he doesn't bind it is just a temper tantrum.
xar watched pikaboo video confirmed
Reverting gameplay back to Xaryu's suggestions would still drive a lot of players away from PvP.
And if you want to cut heals, don't forget mage absorb shields.
Nah that doesn't count... of course lol Xar is such a dumbass
Two good players with 2 unbalanced broken classes, hey what could go wrong
Imagine wueing for random areanas and fighting these sweats
@@madhatter7983 I'll like the sweat off you cutie? What's address?
RETAILKEKW
special
Ret would be fine if it wasnt a stupid ranged spec now
Yarxu playing down so bad mkey
Dungeon fighter has had tournament play in korea since early 2010s. They have always had pve skill tooltips and pvp skill tooltip. Some abilities work differently in pvp etc. Its been done correctly many times in othwr games. Blizzard just lazy because why cater to the 5 percent pvp player base when 95 percent of the game plays pve
14:00 ok then mages lose all their CC lol Swear to god xaryu is the biggest crybaby ever. No matter how broken mage is, its just never enough for him lol.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt yo where you at brotha? Mutual combat?
🥢🍚🍜 fister
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Two players that are playing the most overpowered classes in the game, effortlessly winning 1v2 scenarios while talking about how their class needs another stun and a gap-closing ability. Seriously, Xaryu, mages don’t need another stun-they need a complete rework, not just a nerf. The class feels completely detached from the rest of *World of Warcraft*, with so many tools to secure kills that it seems like they were designed specifically to dominate duels.And you want to give mages another real stun? Maybe give that to warriors instead, along with more healing. You always complain about warriors healing against you, but I rarely see you lose to them-in fact, you beat them with ease most of the time. Instead of making mages even more efficient just because you're bored after playing them for 10 years, how about we buff warriors instead.
Xaryu, why don’t you switch to a warrior and see the real issues? You’ll find plenty to complain about, I assure you. Try going 1v2 with a warrior and see how that goes for you. I bet you wouldn’t even win a 1v1 as easily. If you prove warriors are truly strong, I’ll give you credit. Do some duels and 1v2s with warriors to show us that you're a real duelist, not just someone abusing an overpowered class. To me, that doesn’t count as being a good PvP player. If you’re so skilled, play a warrior.
Melee don't need insta gap closers they already have nearly 100% uptime what are you talking about lol. Melee literally just get to zug zug for free all their abilities are instant like huh casters literally have to juke 20392309 interupts get mini stunned 2039820392309 times etc etc melee are by far superior to casters and have been for a long time. Ret alone has 2 steeds 2 freedoms sac bubble a blind hoj bop and range abilities that hit like a truck. XD
if u read this y r handsome
WoW doesn’t have PvP for years. You can see that by numbers of people who watch PvP videos and viewers streams.
Also blizzard already said to us that PvP is not a core product for WoW, that’s why PvP atm looks like M+ with thousands of pets and most abilities are aoe.
They do things for PvE mainly and then adjust what’s left for PvP.
"its like that because the game is designed around 3v3" bruh how is that fun...not being able to kill anything and healers with 80 percent mana the entire time....how is that good design around 3v3 let alone the rest of pvp...the healer literally spams heals the entire time and gains mana haha but "3v3 feels so good" smfh copium is so strong
13:29 yeah no, shut up Mage if they do that your class would be fucking nuts with all that burst, cc, utility and mobility; The last thing Blizzard wants is to get feedback from a passenger Mage player; Same for Venruki but he atleast plays the game more than this guy.
Ah, yes, it's better to have everyone healing all the time. This is why most of the player base doesn't play retail pvp. They play other versions of the game, or they play pve. Your bogus take on "a passenger" can as easily be flipped. You can't see the mountains for the peaks. You're stuck climbing the slopes, and he rode the gondola to the summit.
He literally stated that he wouldn't mind if they nerfed the burst, utility and mobility in exchange for a stun.
@@Lloocii Most of the player base never pvps ya dumbass lol
bunch of classic andys trying to make modern WoW worse with their bad ideas lolz