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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
  • Mark Fallon, an interrogation expert and former NCIS special agent, reviews interrogation scenes from films and television including 'Knives Out,' 'Brooklyn Nine-Nine,' 'The Dark Knight,' 'The Wire,' 'Watchmen,' 'Basic Instinct,' 'When They See Us' and 'Breaking Bad.'
    00:00 Intro
    00:43 'Knives Out'
    02:42 'Brooklyn Nine-Nine'
    04:03 'The Dark Knight'
    05:53 'The Wire'
    09:28 'Watchmen'
    11:27 'Basic Instinct'
    13:31 'When They See Us'
    14:42 'Breaking Bad'
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  • @MrJustonemorevoice
    @MrJustonemorevoice 2 года назад +2863

    Batman : *Slams the Joker's head into the glass*
    Professional interrogator : "Yeah, that's poor management of behavior"

    • @frankmcgovern5445
      @frankmcgovern5445 2 года назад +34

      Lol Just thought the same thing.

    • @kabalder
      @kabalder 2 года назад +43

      If he was head of the department for interrogating the people who ended up in Gitmo, he would be right. The violence and torture should be delivered with a flat face and a heartless demeanor. That makes it, apparently, professional and acceptable. Like the age-rating rules in the US: it's completely fine to genocide a thousand people, or murder someone gruesomly - as long as you don't see any blood, and the bad guy looks foreign.

    • @onemorechris
      @onemorechris 2 года назад +44

      @@kabalder there’s little doubt that this guy has overseen war crimes, needless violence

    • @kholi9441
      @kholi9441 2 года назад +30

      Yeah, honestly I feel we really don't need a new Batman movie. I'd rather have Batman go to therapy.

    • @jerrygu5316
      @jerrygu5316 2 года назад +9

      @@kholi9441 years of.

  • @alexman378
    @alexman378 2 года назад +2668

    What he says about confessing to crimes you haven’t done, is absolutely correct. I was called in for something a friend of mine supposedly did, which I knew for a fact he didn’t do, and ended up thinking I may had actually done something by the end. The interrogator was so nice, and understanding, I thought he was genuinely looking for the truth, and he then started manipulating what I told him. What they say about never talking without a lawyer? Absolutely correct.

    • @maxithalo7796
      @maxithalo7796 2 года назад +59

      Yup, its your right, you gotta use all you got

    • @richardgray9284
      @richardgray9284 2 года назад +17

      Dam bro. Heavy stuff.

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 2 года назад +134

      @@richardgray9284 Yeah man, never expected to find myself in that position. They’re very manipulative and great actors, “everything you say can and will be used against you” is a perfect description of what happens, even if you’re telling them the truth verbatim.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +58

      Exactly. In those situations, the police are not your friends. No matter how much they might try to act like it. You don't owe them anything without a lawyer present.

    • @HelloTardis
      @HelloTardis 2 года назад +1

      Cops are dickbags, but you could also be a liar.

  • @albasanchez6014
    @albasanchez6014 2 года назад +782

    “You have 2 ears and one mouth. You should be doing twice as much listening as talking.” So well put. I might have to use that one myself.

    • @googiegress7459
      @googiegress7459 2 года назад +10

      It's an incredibly common phrase. You see it a lot in glurge.

    • @boltaurelius376
      @boltaurelius376 2 года назад +10

      Maybe that's why deaf people are constantly talking.

    • @WhiteCheddar.
      @WhiteCheddar. 2 года назад +5

      I've heard that for 30 years, it's been around since humans could speak and hear

    • @nealchampagne5878
      @nealchampagne5878 2 года назад

      I thought my boss created the phrase when he told it to me one day that I thought I knew everything.

    • @edumazieri
      @edumazieri 2 года назад

      If everyone did that then we would all be listening to half as much. Actually it would keep being cut by half until nobody is talking anymore.

  • @turnerjazz7872
    @turnerjazz7872 2 года назад +640

    To be fair, the whole point of the "interrogation" in the Dark Knight is that the Joker is in control the whole time, not Batman. The Joker is the one doing all the things he describes, trying to get batman on his side, ultimately getting him to do exactly what he wants.

    • @AnthonyMazzarella
      @AnthonyMazzarella 2 года назад +32

      Yeah he is a very good cop but doesn't understand script writing.

    • @-MarcusAurelius
      @-MarcusAurelius 2 года назад +69

      @@AnthonyMazzarella to be fair to him he’s never had to deal with a Joker level super villain

    • @JimElford
      @JimElford 2 года назад +95

      Nah the point of that scene was to show how Batman's process of extracting information - through intimidation and violence - was useless against a man with no fear who enjoys pain. He could've tried to use reverse psychology, but he was too emotionally attached to the outcome, and too used to resorting to violence, to see through the red haze and do it the right way.

    • @joshridinger3407
      @joshridinger3407 2 года назад +28

      it also shows the 'ticking bomb' scenario often used to justify torture is probably the situation where it's least effective. torture works best when it breaks down someone's hope and resolve over a long period. all the joker had to do was hold out until the bombs went off. of course, in the end he told batman where to find them (but not really) just too late for batman and the cops to rescue both of them, because it was all part of the plan.

    • @damianstarks3338
      @damianstarks3338 2 года назад +2

      You said it all perfectly here.

  • @kathrynpedulla8952
    @kathrynpedulla8952 2 года назад +1623

    I’m so happy to hear him talk about false confessions and why law enforcement needs to change how they operate.

    • @grimmshredsanguinus2915
      @grimmshredsanguinus2915 2 года назад +3

      well when u accusing somebody isnt easy to tell the truth to somebody u dont know
      you are more cooperative with people u know so if anybody did something they gonna lie cause thats human nature nobody seeks the truth everybody tell something to redeem themselves or give the blame

    • @badcornflakes6374
      @badcornflakes6374 2 года назад +6

      Three words "where's my lawyer?"

    • @frankcastle1216
      @frankcastle1216 2 года назад

      There are a lot of law enforcement officials that only care about their careers and not about finding THE TRUTH!

    • @admthrawnuru
      @admthrawnuru Год назад +3

      @@badcornflakes6374 be more explicit. I guarentee some cop will argue in court that he didn't realize you wanted to see your lawyer, but that you were merely curious as to your lawyers whereabouts, and some courts will accept that bs. The Louisiana Supreme Court did basically that to Warren Demesme.

    • @edwardliebert4478
      @edwardliebert4478 Год назад

      @Ман ван данн You first

  • @thebatonmaster
    @thebatonmaster 2 года назад +1099

    I applaud him for calling out in no uncertain terms how immoral, heinous, and ineffective are abusive interrogation and torture. The MKUltra project was so horrible, look it up if you haven't heard of it before.

    • @MrSomeRedditor
      @MrSomeRedditor 2 года назад +16

      And if you're REALLY interested read "The Men Who Stare at Goats." They made a movie with Ewen McGregor, George Cloony, Jeff, Bridges, and Kevin Spacey that's more of a dark comedy but still tells the events with 90% accurate. Both are masterpieces but the book is my recommendation. The tone of the narrative is 100% serious and truly go into a much depth as possible. 0

    • @thebatonmaster
      @thebatonmaster 2 года назад +2

      @@MrSomeRedditor lol, seriously? I thought that movie was supposed to be satirical comedy.

    • @chevweez
      @chevweez 2 года назад +18

      And yet Guantanamo Bay still exists, still doing illegal acts, and still not held accountable by anyone in any meaningful way.

    • @rojayreid908
      @rojayreid908 2 года назад +11

      I am sure when he was overseeing interrogation of Al-Qaeda operatives they wasn't just talking to them.

    • @johnstrawb3521
      @johnstrawb3521 2 года назад +2

      @TBM Applaud? Most of you vote for supporters and proponents of torture. 4:25 - Yeah, cops are definitely called to account for abusing prisoners. Sure they are. Who is this clown??

  • @mechanomics2649
    @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +594

    11:00 I'm so glad he directly addressed the pseudoscience of analyzing micro-expressions.
    It's frustrating seeing people doing so well on RUclips irresponsibly peddling that nonsense.

    • @MCXL1140
      @MCXL1140 2 года назад +3

      Except it's held up in peer-reviewed studies? Just because most lay people can't tell when a person is lying or hiding something doesn't mean that the whole field is in fact bunk, it's quite the opposite.
      Edit: I'm not allowed to post replies, you can simply Google peer-reviewed research micro expressions and find plenty of sources. It's not some sort of magic lie detector as some people think it is, but properly trained automated systems and properly trained people do significantly better than random chance or untrained people.

    • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
      @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 года назад +17

      @@MCXL1140 Could you cite any sources...? All of the studies I've seen have indicated otherwise, even where the practitioners are professionals? (Pretty disappointing actually - we'd all like to think we can judge other people's behaviour accurately, if only as a basic matter of survival! 😕)

    • @fortifarse
      @fortifarse 2 года назад +3

      @@MCXL1140 source?

    • @wrathfirex
      @wrathfirex 2 года назад +9

      I actually believed it until i saw this! All that science they used to support micro expressions really pushed the believability

    • @duskianfae
      @duskianfae 2 года назад +26

      I'm autistic and I suffered *so* much in my life because of this microexpressions bs. I feel vindicated.

  • @frankmcgovern5445
    @frankmcgovern5445 2 года назад +245

    Lol Batman slams the Joker against a window.
    “What we have here is ineffectual management of behavior.”
    Fair.

  • @DoggyHateFire
    @DoggyHateFire 2 года назад +703

    I'm so glad he called out the micro-expression body language crap.

    • @JM-wf2to
      @JM-wf2to 2 года назад +10

      Exactly!

    • @robpolaris5002
      @robpolaris5002 2 года назад +20

      It’s not crap, but reading about it doesn’t make you good at it. People who have been trained do become much better at detecting micro expressions.
      But imagine reading a book and thinking you could be proficient at shooting targets because you read about it. It takes training and practice.

    • @Terovi
      @Terovi 2 года назад +112

      @@robpolaris5002 Still crap. And it isn't because of lack of training, but problems with interpretation. There is too many factors that can cause micro expression, which have no connection to the ongoing interrogation. Medical causes, unrelated memories, reaction to the environment, etc. The body language is just too unspecific to identify the exact cause. It's mostly shows "stress or no stress". People are too often overconfident because of their subjective experiences.

    • @spa-peggymeatballs4861
      @spa-peggymeatballs4861 2 года назад +1

      @@Terovi I think maybe the people that can be more trustworthy in this area know these things and seek out nuances. (Like medical conditions and outside circumstances) I think most people on RUclips that do body language analysis are hacks, but I’ve found a couple channels that seem reliable. But, the two channels I watch do mention (often) all the things you stated. You should check out The Behavior Panel.

    • @bklowe0131
      @bklowe0131 2 года назад +16

      It's not crap altogether, but it is crap for interrogations. In order for you to be able to utilize any kind of kinetic response, you need to understand the individuals baseline. If you don't already know the person well enough, you'll never know what expressions go against their normal behavior.

  • @ljubalicious
    @ljubalicious 2 года назад +233

    i am so glad they covered "When They See Us" and the story behind that. This helps us dispel the myth that our law enforcement systems are rooted in infallible justice. Also great of Mr Fallon to acknowledge the erroneous belief of "an innocent person will never confess"

    • @Billsbob
      @Billsbob 2 года назад

      Feel free to call out coercion to “false confessions,” just pick a better case to hang your hat on. They went after those boys so hard because they had the witnesses and physical evidence that made it incontrovertible they had committed the crime of beating a woman to a bloody pulp. I know it’s trendy to say all accusations are just because of racism and they were unjustly profiled and railroaded. But this case was always real simple until the media and opportunistic scumbags used it to advance their own agendas and pad their own pockets; truth be damned.

    • @triplemoyagames4195
      @triplemoyagames4195 Год назад +2

      It's still so terrible, I can't bear to watch it

  • @Googledybunker
    @Googledybunker 2 года назад +395

    Halfway through listening to this guy I confessed to every crime I've ever committed.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 2 года назад +3

      @Anonymus X lol. I have no crime.

    • @Torthrodhel
      @Torthrodhel 2 года назад +8

      So did I. And after confessing to your crimes, I even confessed to my own crimes too!

  • @halfrightface
    @halfrightface 2 года назад +54

    Always always always remain silent until you get a lawyer. Especially with non-feds, they care more about a confession than the truth.

  • @loreandfantasy4571
    @loreandfantasy4571 2 года назад +196

    Part II: the opening scene in Inglourious Basterds, when SS-Standartenführer Hans Landa interrogates French farmer Perrier LaPadite.

    • @jhandle900
      @jhandle900 2 года назад +26

      Yes! He's absolutely terrifying.

    • @bryantsoto7326
      @bryantsoto7326 2 года назад +7

      Omg, one of the best interrogation themed scenes. How was this missed?

    • @kingcole55
      @kingcole55 2 года назад +17

      Good scene but it's less of an interrogation and more Landa playing with his food

    • @bethanalpha4544
      @bethanalpha4544 Год назад +1

      @@kingcole55 it's less of Landa playing with his food and more of standard normal gestapo intimidation and brute force back in the day.
      Nowadays is just US army torturing and waterboarding any suspect in their oil wars

  • @calacestar
    @calacestar 2 года назад +533

    The special agent: "This wasn't an interrogation, this was a beating"
    *Literally every inmate of Guantanamo: "Right..."*

    • @DoubleGoon
      @DoubleGoon 2 года назад +50

      Which is why so many of the government's cases when they finally got a trial were thrown out. Those people could've really been terrorists who were guilty of horrendous acts of violence, but they had to be let go. Which makes our torturing of them all the more heinous and disgraceful. Not only does it give the Insurgency/Al qaeda/ISIS more propaganda for recruiting, but it does a disservice to all of their victims.

    • @bbuggediffy
      @bbuggediffy 2 года назад +1

      That a funny quip?

    • @tylerlackey1175
      @tylerlackey1175 2 года назад

      @@bbuggediffy no, just a reddit moment

    • @andreaweber8059
      @andreaweber8059 2 года назад +4

      Here is what I really do not get. As it is well known that "enhanced interrogation techniques" do not yield reliable information, why are they used?

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 2 года назад +12

      And he mentioned them being tortured by the CIA and was critical of it.

  • @annalurie5706
    @annalurie5706 2 года назад +386

    Batman isn’t an authentic representation of law enforcement? You don’t say

    • @tomm35
      @tomm35 2 года назад +8

      There's nothing preventing an interrogation to be both an authentic representation of the event AND to be conducted by fictional entities (such as superheroes).
      I feel like the series Lucifer is a decent example. People are supernaturally compelled to "like" the titular devil and he can further focus his mojo on them to have them talk about what they "truly desire". Answering that question generally results in the target of the interrogation to just start answering all the other ones as well.

    • @HKNYN1
      @HKNYN1 2 года назад +13

      Beat up people ask questions later he definitely is an authentic representation

    • @Jackkenway
      @Jackkenway 2 года назад +20

      Exactly! That's the whole point of Batman, he can do things outside of the law, he took that clip too seriously.

    • @winterTripic
      @winterTripic 2 года назад +5

      Seems some cops might have gotten the opposite impression

    • @torfinnzempel6123
      @torfinnzempel6123 2 года назад +4

      No, but apparently the Punisher is.

  • @andrew1575
    @andrew1575 2 года назад +29

    "My lawyer told me not to answer any questions and I'd like to return to my cell". To. Every. Question. Even innocuous ones.

    • @wolfensniper4012
      @wolfensniper4012 Год назад +1

      Then congratulations about teaching serial killers to escape justice

    • @r5t6y7u8
      @r5t6y7u8 Год назад

      Better to sit in a cell for a week than sit in a cell for a decade.

    • @shivasgirl1609
      @shivasgirl1609 Месяц назад

      Especially in Canada 🇨🇦 where LE can continue questioning you even after you've asked for a lawyer.

  • @MsGrumpyLady
    @MsGrumpyLady 2 года назад +234

    I wish he'd review an interrogation of mindhunter

    • @WaLeeD-ug2tk
      @WaLeeD-ug2tk 2 года назад +11

      The interrogation methods used in Mindhunter are quiet specific, he will need to watch the whole series in order to understand why they’re using such methods.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 2 года назад +2

      @@WaLeeD-ug2tk I watched like 2 episodes of Mindhunter, and gave up. Its unbearable.

    • @Bergen98
      @Bergen98 2 года назад +39

      @@fynkozari9271 no hate, but because of people like you we don’t get third season. People attention span is too short nowadays

    • @nickpapageorgio8529
      @nickpapageorgio8529 2 года назад +9

      The interviews are almost word for word of the real life interviews you know

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 2 года назад +2

      @@Bergen98 I watched a 4 hour Justice League straight non stop, I dont think its attention span, its the difference between good and bad contents.

  • @saritaramirez645
    @saritaramirez645 2 года назад +145

    If you look at the interrogation of Chris Watts, the man who killed his whole family a couple of years ago in Colorado, that was very true to what this expert is saying: build a rapport, you’ll get them to talk eventually.

  • @erosson27
    @erosson27 2 года назад +46

    Using torture to get information is like using a axe to open a Snickers bar.... You won't get much cause most of it will be useless.

  • @SaviourInBlack
    @SaviourInBlack 2 года назад +226

    This is one of the best interviews you guys have done. He really teaches something important that needs to be acknowledged by the world. Movies and shows need to stop depicting interrogations and more like casual conversations.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +10

      He also offers in-depth criticism with strong arguments about how these systems are carried out in real life.

    • @mohammedibourki9376
      @mohammedibourki9376 2 года назад +6

      But casual conversations are boring to watch hhhhh Its called entertainement for a reason

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 2 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @hw7003
      @hw7003 2 года назад +3

      I agree, but it takes a better screen writer to script an entertaining quiet conversation and quality actors to deliver that scene in an interesting way than a writer who just slaps some violence and aggressive behavior in there with crappy actors and jump cuts, so not likely we'll see much of it.

    • @JobVanDam
      @JobVanDam Год назад

      Law & Order SVU has got to be the worst prepatrator of this.
      Every. Single. Episode. Is them badgering someone until they make an emotional confession.

  • @phillypb4165
    @phillypb4165 2 года назад +198

    Anyone else absolutely love these videos? I'm on a binge right now. So many interesting experts

    • @abderrahimbenmoussa4359
      @abderrahimbenmoussa4359 2 года назад +8

      Find it fascinating people like those shows but many also reject specialists when they tell them what to do or not

    • @1027scool
      @1027scool 2 года назад +4

      Heck yes!

    • @willnoucamp
      @willnoucamp 2 года назад +3

      I did exactly the same when I found them!

  • @thecrystaltide3757
    @thecrystaltide3757 Год назад +3

    "it's not control you're looking for, it's cooperation" 💎💎💎

  • @joaum2009
    @joaum2009 2 года назад +90

    This guy is amazing, a true professional using science and ethics.

    • @EricHamm
      @EricHamm 2 года назад +3

      Don't forget allowing waterboarding to happen!

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 2 года назад +4

      Appreciate it!

  • @carolinehaf21
    @carolinehaf21 2 года назад +102

    Glad they did "when they see us"... the coercion of confession with minors in many older cases we're still sorting out is so sad.

    • @thebatonmaster
      @thebatonmaster 2 года назад +1

      Yeah totally, it's awful. I was also glad they reviewed that series.

  • @nightshade7240
    @nightshade7240 2 года назад +278

    No one in a position of authority is your friend. They all have an agenda and a bias and they will do whatever it takes. Also always ask for a lawyer. Don't say anything other than I would like a lawyer. Don't ever talk to the authorities of any jurisdiction without a lawyer. When it is just you, they can play it any way they want. When a lawyer is present they are a legal witness, they know the system and lawyer/client confidentiality is a thing. Take advantage of your rights in that situation because they are rights for a reason. Also if you are arrested pay attention to whether the authorities read you your rights or not. Convey that information to your lawyer.

    • @fromthebackseat4865
      @fromthebackseat4865 2 года назад +33

      Things you should say to the police: Nothing, or “I want a lawyer.”

    • @Madchemist002
      @Madchemist002 2 года назад +18

      @Javion MI. Well, not really. This is just standard procedure for what you should do to protect yourself. You have the right to an attorney, so you should use it. I personally would never speak to police about a case without a lawyer even if I was innocent.

    • @josie9306
      @josie9306 2 года назад +11

      I think "no one in a position of authority is your friend," is a blanket statement and an assumption but I totally agree with everything else you say for sure.

    • @ricktwisty5636
      @ricktwisty5636 2 года назад +28

      @@josie9306 A better statement might be "Never assume an authority figure is acting in your best interests."

    • @urbannpa
      @urbannpa 2 года назад +8

      I wish more people would watch the RUclips video of the lawyer giving this same advise to a class.

  • @lassehahn1794
    @lassehahn1794 2 года назад +314

    I love how he could only indirectly call what the CIA did (and does) warcrimes by saying "what you saw are warcrimes".

    • @rambam23
      @rambam23 2 года назад +82

      I mean, he wrote a whole book on it: Unjustifiable Means: The Inside Story of How the CIA, Pentagon, and US Government Conspired to Torture.

    • @serpicosghost
      @serpicosghost 2 года назад +19

      @@rambam23 so he made a career out of committing war crimes, then wrote a book about how the war crimes were bad. What a hero

    • @somethingsomething9008
      @somethingsomething9008 2 года назад +2

      How do you know?

    • @fortifarse
      @fortifarse 2 года назад +16

      It's indirect to say war crimes are...war crimes?

    • @ragglefraggle9111
      @ragglefraggle9111 Год назад +8

      @@serpicosghost He never tortured anyone

  • @andrewwillard5625
    @andrewwillard5625 2 года назад +41

    It’s sad to hear younger people are confessing to crimes they didn’t commit like he’s right that method of scaring and pressuring or lying makes sense why it happens

  • @scottallen7119
    @scottallen7119 Год назад +16

    This guy knows interrogation. I was an interrogator for 32 years. It's refreshing to see a RUclips video with so much truth. I conducted interrogations with several agencies. It is not surprising that the CIA developed water boarding and other Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. They were generally the most incompetent interrogators with whom I worked.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax Год назад +1

      Thank you Scott! Appreciate it...

  • @InceRumul
    @InceRumul 2 года назад +7

    "What occurred here was ineffective managing of behavior."
    I'm borrowing that line; too many great applications.

  • @Laceyseidel
    @Laceyseidel 2 года назад +23

    "I want a lawyer"
    "I am invoking my right to remain silent"

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 2 года назад

      Exactly

    • @valdie91285
      @valdie91285 2 года назад

      "I'm speaking in quotations to make me sound smart"

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +2

      @@valdie91285 I'm not sure why you're telling us that, but okay.

  • @casedistorted
    @casedistorted 2 года назад +44

    Some very good information and I like how he is so up to date with modern interrogation techniques and what is fact vs fiction. There is a lot of ideas out there STILL that people think are true when we know now they're false.

    • @Shade01982
      @Shade01982 Год назад

      It's because they think of it differently. This guy correctly says that it means 1/4 to 1/3 of confessions are false. The way they look at it is that means 2/3 to 3/4 of confessions are true.

  • @matthewfarley8340
    @matthewfarley8340 2 года назад +107

    I am more hopeful of our judicial system having guys like him around. I adore forensic files and simular shows. It breaks my heart learning about false confessions. People are set to mental torture until you do what investigators want. It's immoral

    • @OhElvira
      @OhElvira 2 года назад +12

      I wrote a paper on false confessions when I did my criminology degree, it happens so often and for so many reasons.

    • @halfrightface
      @halfrightface 2 года назад +20

      There's a reason he is a fed and not a local cop. Local cops would oust him for breaking their thin blue line.

    • @valdie91285
      @valdie91285 2 года назад

      @@halfrightface prove it

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +6

      @@valdie91285 Proof is a google search away, Chief. Look up department whistleblowers.

    • @vahidfarahani5142
      @vahidfarahani5142 2 года назад +3

      The tragedy is that a lot of people, even in government and law enforcement, still belive that torture is viable, acceptable or even necessary.
      Even antonin scalia, a supreme Court justice, used "24 hours", a garbage show, to justify torture.

  • @hellfish2309
    @hellfish2309 2 года назад +26

    14:26 the asterisk* here is that the point of this methodology was to get a conviction, not to ascertain culpability or guilt
    I like how he stresses cooperation over control

  • @candice_ecidnac
    @candice_ecidnac 2 года назад +17

    "You have 2 ears and 1 mouth; you should be listening twice as much as you're talking"
    ...mom? Is that you?

  • @asd1234asd1234asd
    @asd1234asd1234asd 2 года назад +14

    Half the comment here did not watch the video till the part where he condemned CIA interrogation method and called it 'war crime'.

    • @Wustenfuchs109
      @Wustenfuchs109 2 года назад +6

      But that's the thing with USA - they are not even trying to hide their war crimes - they just say "Yeah, it is... and what are you going to do about it?". The amount of US war crimes in the last 70 years all around the globe is off the charts - yet you have never seen anyone suffering any penalty for it.
      But they WILL make up a war crime or WMD to invade you... and cause a few dozen war crimes.

  • @06alepea1
    @06alepea1 2 года назад +9

    My friend, who is a police officer, told me that if I am ever called in for questioning, for any reason, is to never talk without a lawyer present. You say "I want a lawyer. Put me in a cell."

    • @slomotionaction
      @slomotionaction 2 года назад +1

      So true. I was with a bunch of friends at a pub and an all out brawl happened. I didn't understand why at the time I got picked up but I just asked can I have a smoke. The officer obliged and asked what pocket my cigarette pack was in and lit it. Literally all I asked. Lawyer said what you say will be repeated even in obscurity and when the prosecutor read my case he included that brief albeit unimportant info to the court. I didn't say a word but the docket said he opted to have a cigarette while being detained.

    • @r5t6y7u8
      @r5t6y7u8 Год назад

      "Put me in a cell" is spot on. Better to spend three days in jail than three months or three years.
      Amazing that cops can lie to people. They'll tell you you don't need a lawyer, that's not necessary, we're just having a chat ... friend. Or a lawyer won't be available for a month while you sit in jail. Don't fall for it. Tell the police you want a lawyer and shut up.

  • @Rexxar-go2ok
    @Rexxar-go2ok 2 года назад +41

    I like this guy a lot. True professional.

  • @MJMallen
    @MJMallen Год назад +3

    This is one of the best assessments of ineffective interrogation techniques I've seen.

  • @e.pluribusunum7916
    @e.pluribusunum7916 2 года назад +21

    And yet the "lie detector" scene in The Wire is still hilarious to this day.

    • @eriksmith8956
      @eriksmith8956 Год назад

      And it actually happened, according to David Simon's reporting in his book.

  • @maercyme61
    @maercyme61 2 года назад +31

    "You have two ears and one mouth; you should be listening at least twice as much as you're talking."

  • @KiX-K4T13
    @KiX-K4T13 2 года назад +109

    I hope this guy is genuine in what he's saying about better police interrogation methods.
    I have a hard time trusting police and I'm a decent person with no criminal history.

    • @Yoko4797
      @Yoko4797 2 года назад +7

      At the end of the day, the police are people just like us. Unfortunately, they're always gonna have bias and lock onto finding solutions rather than being empathetic.

    • @sadpotato3386
      @sadpotato3386 2 года назад +7

      @@Yoko4797 I think this can be helped with certain kinds of training and education.
      Police need a new perspective, to see the good in people and not just the worst

    • @cm275
      @cm275 2 года назад +14

      He touches on one of the issues at the end. Too many police still rely on “gut” and long debunked practices to try to close cases instead of following the facts. At the end of the day, their job is to close cases and too many people take shortcuts but shortcuts here have devastating consequences.

    • @cain666
      @cain666 2 года назад +5

      The science of interrogation have gotten a lot better. The methods of unveiling the truth (not just get a confession by coercion or manipulation), has beeen studied, they have evolved greatly and books and courses are easily available. Now, do all police over the world have the truth as their goal for the interrogation, or do they simply want to close a case as fast as possible? Sadly, this varies.

    • @openthemind1244
      @openthemind1244 2 года назад +12

      @@cain666 most police still act like the worst examples in this video, especially with poorer people and people of color. What police need are CONSEQUENCES, hard and swift consequences for abusive behavior.

  • @awmperry
    @awmperry 2 года назад +11

    Would be really interesting to have this guy back to review naval investigations - NCIS has the most, obviously, but they crop up occasionally elsewhere.

  • @nyak63RUS
    @nyak63RUS 2 года назад +15

    Am I the only person who has always wanted to be interrogated? I don't want to commit any crime, but like, what an experience...

    • @MrBuckman420
      @MrBuckman420 2 года назад +2

      It sucks, having been through it and the pressure he talks about is real. They try to get you to contradict yourself on small things and then use it against you. They got me to write a letter to the spouse in the car crash that died saying they'd give it to her. They never did and my lawyer that I attained later informed me they hoped I'd confess to some wrong doing in it and they'd have used it against me.

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 2 года назад +5

      You don’t have to commit a crime to get interrogated. Those people are good, you’ll walk in innocent and will get out thinking you may have actually done something, through the information you give up. In case it happens, always remember, no matter how nice they look, they don’t have your best interest at heart, nor do they care for truth and justice. Never talk without a lawyer if you find yourself in such a situation

    • @nyak63RUS
      @nyak63RUS 2 года назад

      @@alexman378 You're right and all, but I think you missed the spirit of my post. No worries though, have a great day.

  • @renata8979
    @renata8979 2 года назад +11

    I am a huge fan of The Dark Night, but that interrogation scene immediately makes me think of that hilarious "WHYDOYOUWANNAKILLME?" spoof)

    • @thewhitewolf58
      @thewhitewolf58 2 года назад +2

      Honestly batman is goofy when hes interrogating joker. Also i wish joker would laugh it off.

    • @guardianeris
      @guardianeris 2 года назад

      I like the Out Of Touch skit better

  • @aietra2112
    @aietra2112 2 года назад +35

    I'd love to see this guy analyse interrogations in some of the British cop dramas. "Midsomer Murders" with Tom Barnaby sitting on someone's sofa having a quiet chat over a cup of tea. "Line of Duty" with the barrage of tiny details and hard evidence on the projector and cop-vs-cop interrogations. "Shetland" and the difficulty of questioning people you have a personal connection with in a small community.

    • @urbannpa
      @urbannpa 2 года назад

      In Line Of Duty at least they recorded the interrogations.

    • @LC-sc3en
      @LC-sc3en 2 года назад +1

      Barnaby is the best.

    • @icee8959
      @icee8959 Год назад +3

      I'm showing my age here but in the early 70s we had a cop show called Columbo with a detective who did the same thing, only without the tea.

    • @susanavenir
      @susanavenir 10 месяцев назад

      @@icee8959 - I love that show. No car chases. No guns. Just self-effacing tenacity.

  • @musicalnotextr
    @musicalnotextr 2 года назад +19

    THE DARK KNIGHT:
    So, this is illegal….

    • @TheNixie1972
      @TheNixie1972 2 года назад +1

      Mind blown.

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 2 года назад +1

      Well, Batman himself is a highly illegal entity. But he’s also an expert in that stuff, he should’ve known all sorts of tricks and techniques in an interrogation room.

    • @themissinglink7126
      @themissinglink7126 2 года назад +1

      @@alexman378 I think he was losing control. That's the whole point of the scene, is that Batman was never in control, and that he finally met a man he can't physically beat.

  • @Your_President_Kanye_East
    @Your_President_Kanye_East 2 года назад +5

    I love the "Expert Reviews" videos and this is definitely one of the very best of them. Very informative and eye-opening.

  • @puncherdavis9727
    @puncherdavis9727 2 года назад +10

    Yeah another thing about interrogations is your tone of voice and how you connect with the person your speaking with. Communication communication communication come off as a friend not as a hostile I would definitely take this guy breakfast and have a great conversation

  • @JM-wf2to
    @JM-wf2to Год назад +5

    Having conducted internal reviews with multiple corporations, I can say that this guy must have played a role in training the company that trained me. He says ,verbatim , things I was taught not all that long ago. I am very thankful he is out there speaking on how some of the negatives on past interrogations have started to change. A lot of modern media still portrays outdated methods and that discredits the changes made. It also helps cause distrust with police and other investigators.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax Год назад +1

      That’s very good to hear. The practice need to continue to evolve…

  • @Etabobable
    @Etabobable Год назад +5

    This guy is wonderful. His info is really great! Always remember “I have the right to remain silent.

  • @ituoiocchisudeme6606
    @ituoiocchisudeme6606 2 года назад +13

    Wish he would review Rust Cohle’s interrogations in true detective

  • @Cchogan
    @Cchogan 2 года назад +4

    That was one of the most fascinating of these expert reaction videos. I actually learnt something. I was also thinking of his personality. You can imagine him remaining apparently calm in just about any interview situation, and always getting what he wants.

  • @EJD339
    @EJD339 2 года назад +14

    God, it would suck to have him as a dad lol.

  • @sk1ppman
    @sk1ppman 2 года назад +4

    "If I defecated on the American Flag how would that make you feel?"
    "Confused?"
    lol I'm dead.

  • @callmecrowleykoh
    @callmecrowleykoh 9 месяцев назад +2

    I inadvertently found myself paying really close attention to the language he used. Honestly it's a relief to hear someone of his profession and experience call abuse out like that. More law enforcement having a mindset like that would be wonderful

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for those kind works…

  • @shesemerald2011
    @shesemerald2011 2 года назад +8

    He could have done a whole episode on what went wrong during "When They See Us".

  • @evanswny
    @evanswny 2 года назад +5

    I really liked this officer, he is one that seems to understand that not everyone is guilty and "appears" to be good, I put that in quotes because you never really know.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax Год назад +1

      A healthy distrust isn’t a bad thing. Guilt should be decided by a court…and investigators job should be to seek out the truth (facts) for informed decisions to be made. Thank you for watching and for kinda liking me! :-)

  • @UnCabron
    @UnCabron 2 года назад +4

    Dang it. He didn't comment on Sharon Stone's leg crossing scene.

  • @Allegheny500
    @Allegheny500 2 года назад +12

    The warm drink warm feelings thing is new to me, but any drink handed to a suspect during interrogation gets you fingerprints and DNA without a court order.

    • @valdie91285
      @valdie91285 2 года назад

      Just because you saw that in a movie doesn't mean it's real.

    • @Allegheny500
      @Allegheny500 2 года назад +2

      @@valdie91285 Oh it's real, I just have a few friends and family on the job.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +1

      @@valdie91285 Doesn't mean it isn't either, so I have no idea what your point is.

    • @wj2307
      @wj2307 2 года назад +1

      @@mechanomics2649 it's indeed true, police officers can take your fingerprints by force if you're under arrest or if you're a 'reasonable suspect'. When you're just being interrogated in the police station you have to give written permission.
      *Obviously that's not valid for every country out there.

    • @valdie91285
      @valdie91285 2 года назад

      @@mechanomics2649 sucks for you

  • @VeritasMax
    @VeritasMax 2 года назад +2

    You are very kind…Thank you!

  • @user-ck4sm9lo3q
    @user-ck4sm9lo3q 2 года назад +7

    when they see us is one of the saddest things i’ve ever watched

  • @pilotstyle123
    @pilotstyle123 2 года назад +28

    Slamming a head on the table is fiction but waterboarding the 911 suspects in he middle east was fair game >D

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад

      Not really, no. Suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

    • @stillnotstill
      @stillnotstill 2 года назад

      @@mechanomics2649 .... I'm sorry but I think you're missing the point.

  • @alts14
    @alts14 2 года назад +1

    An amazing video, thank you!!!

  • @matthewwhittington7722
    @matthewwhittington7722 2 года назад +3

    Very cool! Articulate and informative. Thank you.

  • @josie9306
    @josie9306 2 года назад +10

    This guy says some really really awesome stuff. Moving forward in the right direction.

  • @andrewgibbons6074
    @andrewgibbons6074 2 года назад +5

    My guy worked for ncis but there was no ncis interrogations missed oppertunity

  • @carlaauri8461
    @carlaauri8461 Год назад +2

    He needs to be a head of interrogation programs I DON’T KNOW 99.9% OF ALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS ANYWHERE? HE GAIN MY FULL TRUST AND I JUST CONFESSED!!!!👏🏻

  • @Lord_Baphomet_
    @Lord_Baphomet_ 2 года назад +5

    3:15 wouldn’t making the person uncomfortable cause them to focus on the irritant instead of the questions. This is why interrogators do not wear cologne or anything clothes that are flashy. You also don’t want an interrogator to have a speech impediment or someone who is overly handsome.

  • @josecarlosamador
    @josecarlosamador 2 года назад +7

    Bring this guy again, PLEASE!

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 2 года назад +1

      Thank you Jose!

    • @josecarlosamador
      @josecarlosamador 2 года назад +1

      @@VeritasMax Thanks. I didn't know you had a channel on YT. Subscribed there too!

  • @dragossion
    @dragossion 2 года назад +6

    This was a wonderful guest! Loved it!

  • @nordicvolkan8589
    @nordicvolkan8589 2 года назад +1

    Wow very professional & insightfull

  • @anasdomain9994
    @anasdomain9994 2 года назад +3

    I can imagine him playing good cop being like: cmon you’re not that guy

  • @suedenim
    @suedenim 2 года назад +22

    Sounds like the interrogation of Luis in Ant-Man and the Wasp was pretty accurate!

  • @annonymat
    @annonymat 2 года назад +3

    I love this phrasing xD Batman beats up the joker: “Ineffective managing of behavior”

  • @YourAverageReviews
    @YourAverageReviews 2 года назад +7

    This guy is so good, I would easily admit to anything.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax Год назад +1

      Thank you! Appreciate you tuning in…

  • @brettbonine7194
    @brettbonine7194 2 года назад +38

    This guy seems surprisingly progressive for his age. I'm presently surprised!

  • @loveforeignaccents
    @loveforeignaccents 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for putting timestamps in!

    • @crubbythebeagle57
      @crubbythebeagle57 2 года назад

      cute lovely beagle
      ruclips.net/video/M-zDS_rfxRE/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/oMcSTyyV0Ek/видео.html \,.

  • @tintinftww
    @tintinftww 2 года назад +9

    I'm just gonna throw this out there, if you like this type of stuff you'll love the JCS Criminal Psychology channel

    • @michelletempleton2505
      @michelletempleton2505 2 года назад +2

      Such a good channel, it's just a shame they haven't uploaded in a while... there is a 2nd jcs channel ( only has about 4 vids) but it hasn't uploaded any content for about two months either

  • @wbeck4
    @wbeck4 2 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @CraigGood
    @CraigGood 2 года назад +21

    This matches well with the detective training I've been part of (as a role player). We teach them how important rapport is. I love his warm mug technique. Clever.
    Also, photocopiers are just as accurate as polygraphs as lie detectors. There is no such thing as a technology for detecting lies.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +4

      I get irrationally annoyed whenever people or media play up lie detectors and I'm not even involved with law enforcement or Criminology.

    • @Shade01982
      @Shade01982 Год назад

      They aren't even admissible as evidence, that should say something...

  • @AndyBestHP
    @AndyBestHP 2 года назад +7

    Mark Fallon: I am an expert in subtle, soft ways to simply get the suspect to talk freely. Commenters on this vid: *sweats*

  • @JackFoxtrotEDM
    @JackFoxtrotEDM 2 года назад +6

    "You want to make the interviewee feel calm and relaxed, to help get more information."
    Batman: *slams Joker's face against the glass* "WHERE ARE THEY?!"

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 2 года назад +2

      To be fair, the Joker seemed to be having a good time.

  • @BlackSeranna
    @BlackSeranna 2 года назад +1

    Really excellent!

  • @yoinkhaha
    @yoinkhaha 2 года назад +2

    This guy doesn't even know the difference between psychotic with psychopathic. Joker is not having a "psychotic episode," he's in complete control. Pretty basic psych mistake there.

  • @jasmer6754
    @jasmer6754 2 года назад +5

    The part with Brooklyn Nine-Nine and the idea that making a person uncomfortable primes them for interrogation. What it misses is how many people would just be distracted, not necessarily uncomfortable. The uneven chair or the sticky table are easy sources of distraction and fidgeting, and an inattentive interviewee seems counterproductive. If I walked into a police interrogation and it looked like a shitshow that didn't have itself together, I probably wouldn't take it or them seriously, lawyer up, and walk out.

  • @TheMdmasrur001
    @TheMdmasrur001 2 года назад +3

    Mark Fallon is a true World Class expert, both in his experience and phycological level...........

  • @trxxvis
    @trxxvis 2 года назад +1

    This guy is great! Any other videos with him in them?

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax Год назад

      I have a RUclips channel @VeritasMax

  • @vinnieg6161
    @vinnieg6161 2 года назад +8

    glad this guy acknowledges some of the things the government does and did wrong

  • @captainclutch8463
    @captainclutch8463 2 года назад +3

    there is a reason when reading your miranda rights they say "anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you in the court of law... they dont care what you say as long as it gets them closer to a conviction but if you say something that helps your case all of a sudden they haveshort term memory

    • @r5t6y7u8
      @r5t6y7u8 Год назад

      Notice there is virtually nothing you can say to a cop that can and will be used to SUPPORT you in a court of law.
      Tell the police you want a lawyer, and shut up.

  • @eilisodonnell554
    @eilisodonnell554 2 года назад +6

    I'd love to hear his opinions on the Criminal Minds episode where Gideon interrogates a prisoner at Guantanamo.

  • @grichl88
    @grichl88 2 года назад +2

    I love that he mentions false confessions.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 2 года назад +3

      It’s sad that there are so many of them. We need to improve the practice and use science to professionalize the policing.

  • @romanoonamor7690
    @romanoonamor7690 2 года назад +4

    Not even a The Shield one. I wish he talked about the "good cop bad cop" thing that we see in every single movie/show with interrogations.

    • @OhElvira
      @OhElvira 2 года назад

      Watch JSC it does happen in real life.

  • @tupac1971ever
    @tupac1971ever 2 года назад +5

    This guy makes me want to tell him everything I know (ik sarcasm doesn't come thru as well in writing but what I just sad had a lot of it) I'd actually like to ask him some questions.

  • @serhanyldz221
    @serhanyldz221 2 года назад +8

    Definitely should've used rust cohle's interrogation scenes in true detective

  • @mirosgerg
    @mirosgerg 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great segment

  • @gzer0x
    @gzer0x 2 года назад +2

    Notice that he never said it was improper to for the cops to say their witness wouldn’t want a lawyer. He’s still a cop.

  • @taliawtf6944
    @taliawtf6944 Год назад +3

    If torture is so ineffective then why is it so widely used and continued to be used? I think it is either more effective than some want to admit or it's not at all about information more an object lesson for why one should comply. Of course that is the government's who thing in the end, control.

    • @TheFranchiseCA
      @TheFranchiseCA Год назад +2

      Action bias by the interrogators. Doing more feels better than doing less, even when it's not actually effective.

  • @Maazzzo
    @Maazzzo 2 года назад +5

    Fallon is lovely, bring him back for more.

    • @VeritasMax
      @VeritasMax 2 года назад +4

      That’s so kind…Thank you so very much!

  • @diegoamendoza734
    @diegoamendoza734 2 года назад +1

    I would have loved if they review the interrogation in Mindhunter and True Detective Season 1.

  • @tuckerharvey964
    @tuckerharvey964 10 месяцев назад +1

    When he said Batman had “ineffective managing of behavior” I lost it 😂😂