Hero Wars - Investing in the Wrong Hero Actively Harms Your Guild

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @MistyKathrine
    @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

    Astaroth is a bad tank, here's why: ruclips.net/video/l0IB7I9LvFU/видео.html

    • @voidhound5170
      @voidhound5170 Год назад

      Yes you are true but I love him and use him because of that as all other miy heroes because I play for fun and use heroes I like I dont aim to be best player on server and I cant because I dont spend money on it so. Even with you being right most of the time i am still top 100 in arena. On my server as f2p guy enjoying the game and if yoi aim to be competitive player listen to Misty she is great educative lady with sea of knowledge

    • @Thenineoh
      @Thenineoh Год назад

      dang, sucks I was planning to use him, but good thing I saw this. So many tier lists online are calling him S and S+ tier, why's that if he sucks so bad?

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      @@Thenineoh Because most tier lists are made by silver leaguers (at best) who have no understanding of the PvP game.

  • @medusa1136
    @medusa1136 Год назад +4

    Astaroth is a bad tank agree but is perfect protector. If the team has two tank lineups, everything will be different. Astaroth is also a good defensive team, it all depends on your experience how to use.

  • @billybobjoe5947
    @billybobjoe5947 9 месяцев назад

    Once I get to 130 (I'm literally 4 levels away, so it won't be long), I'm planning on focusing on an entirely different team, because mine isn't that great. My main team as of right now is {Celeste, Artemis, Astaroth, Isaac, and another leveled up hero depending on the situation}. It's not good, but it works until 130, and I'm in a low-ranking bronze guild that doesn't focus too much on guild stuff
    Thanks so much for the video

  • @P4r4lyz3r
    @P4r4lyz3r Год назад +2

    I use Andvari as main tank and i don't lose much at all...probably a cause of my team being control/stun heavy

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Andvari is actually a pretty decent tank and better than many of the "actual tanks".

  • @lanceknightmare
    @lanceknightmare Год назад +1

    What do you think of the team I am currently using and my plan for the future? I invested in Astroroth mainly because the first thing I wanted to build was my strength against Red Hydras. He is my highest investment in terms of Artifacts currently sitting at 3 ⭐ for all three Artifacts in the level 30 range for all three Artifacts. I am using Helios which I got from the recent event as my highest star level for a unit which is 4. I have Galandof and Qing Mau which synergize with Helios due to Helios skills. Qing Mau being my main damage dealer by far in Hydra battles.The last character is Maya who is my healer. My plan is to build this team up somewhat swapping out new units as I find better synergies. It will eventually become my secondary team. My plan for my end game is to build Dante, Corvus, Martha, Isaac, Sebastian, Nebula, Jhu. I only have Dante and Sebastian currently.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      It sounds like you might be playing on Hero Wars mobile, as that game is quite a bit different from Hero Wars I can't really offer advice there.

  • @christopherwashington3879
    @christopherwashington3879 Год назад +2

    After using Astaroth in mobile for quite some time, his ult does no justice. It is only useful against teams that are significantly under-leveled. When you go toe to toe with enemies near the same level, it breaks automatically. Also, the shield slow energy gain for heroes.
    Nonetheless (on at higher tiers of strength), you would think it gets better, right? Not much improves. The devs troll players into wasting valuable resources. Hero Wars is, and always will be this way.
    When I decided to switch and Aurora on web, even at weaker tiers of strength, she soaks up damage like a sponge. There is a lot more she helps with when building a team. It is far easier to survive thanks to her dodge. Anyways, that’s enough for now.

  • @thomasrienesl1771
    @thomasrienesl1771 Год назад +3

    Hi Misty, i use the twins too. I'm with the twins on my Server under the Top 10. My Heros are not maxed (822k Team). I use Arachne as Tank with Mara, Krista with Merlin, Celeste with Khorus, Amira with Biscuit and Lars with Axel. My Team-pet is Khorus. This constellation is an dream. Amira is great against Dante, Yasemine and other twins Teams, Arachne (158k) is also great against them. In 90% i win with this Team also against Isaac Teams. Please test it on your Server an when it is great make an Video. Have a nice day and greetings from Germany .😉

    • @tobikage_forever7853
      @tobikage_forever7853 Год назад

      lol any pure magic team is easily shut down by Isaac + Dante combo. I've not yet seen a magic team with Khorus though, but having Sebas in the team didn't help at all.

  • @zhangyating9723
    @zhangyating9723 Год назад +3

    someone invest in ginger in our guild... I completely can't understand

    • @lanceknightmare
      @lanceknightmare Год назад +1

      Ginger is a backrow damage dealer who synergizes with other units of her same type. I can see Ginger filing a niche.

  • @taslimakhanom9172
    @taslimakhanom9172 Год назад

    I came up with a team that actually beats both the Holy Trinity+Twins team and the Astaroth, Karkh, Facless, Nebula and Martha team.
    The team is: Corvus/Oliver Morrigan/Axel Sebastian/Albus Lars/Mara Krista/Merlin
    Try the team, I did 3 times and every time they won.

  • @Quannection
    @Quannection Год назад +1

    Great video!
    Also I have two questions.
    1. Which skin should I go with first for krista and lars
    2. I just got martha and am wondering if, until I get sebastian, as a level 60 would martha be a better option for now than thea?

    • @Quannection
      @Quannection Год назад +1

      Im thinking a speed boost + healing might benefit me more for campaign but I have ALSO seen how op thea healing + silence is so im not sure

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад

      Magic attack/penetration respectively. Thea buffs mag def which probably matters more in the campaign prior to chapter 14.

    • @Quannection
      @Quannection Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine ok thanks! so would you say krista, lars, celeste, thea, and aurora is a ok team until I can get sebastian?

  • @timday3611
    @timday3611 Год назад +1

    I'm on day 4 of playing, I pulled Cleaver from the chest, I'm using cleaver, archaine, mushy and shroom, celeste and one more I can't remember. It's doing me ok so far but what hero's would u recommend I invest in? Thanks for the content.

    • @timday3611
      @timday3611 Год назад

      Other hero is Thea or amira, I'm playing on mobile version.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Congratulations on Cleaver! As Mushy and Shroom is not currently a hero on the main version of the game I have to assume you are playing Hero Wars mobile, so I can't offer you any advice as that game has lots of differences.

  • @hillarybarder2935
    @hillarybarder2935 Год назад +1

    Hi Misty. How do you counter Rufus+a control hero? Holy Trinity + morrigan? What's the 5th hero then? And pets?

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Depends on the specific line.

    • @bibihc
      @bibihc Год назад +2

      Against heavy control teams you have to use Sebastian+Khorus

  • @jamesflint5531
    @jamesflint5531 Год назад

    Thanks

  • @OnePieceGee
    @OnePieceGee Год назад +1

    Liked the video. What are your recommendations for damage dealers?

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      Arachne Maya, Krista Lars, Ishmael Nebula, can all be good.

    • @OnePieceGee
      @OnePieceGee Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine what's your take on Dante?

    • @OnePieceGee
      @OnePieceGee Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine thanks by the way

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      @@OnePieceGee He's pretty good though shouldn't be developed in place of an actual tank.

  • @damiandorhoff719
    @damiandorhoff719 Год назад

    Yeah it is all about finding the right Heros for your Line.
    Astaroth is not a Damage Dealer. If you need more Damage you would need another Tank or an extra Damage Dealer.
    You use Astaroth if you have a fragile Damage Dealer in second Position and you want Astaroth to mitigate some of the Damage and also revive that Hero if needed.
    Astaroth is often used with Warriors like Yasmine or K´arkh or some other fragile damage dealers.
    Against that Trinity Twins Team People propably wanted to use Iris and Isaac plus some strong damage dealers

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Even the lines suggested Aurora is going to be better than Astaroth though. Aurora and Yasmine are often seen together and Yasmine can benefit from Aurora's dodge buffing spam. If you need to rely on an Astaroth rez to win a fight, you've probably already lost before you hit "fight".

  • @TheMooCowReturns
    @TheMooCowReturns Год назад +2

    Yasmine would have shredded them too, just saying. Unless there is a stronger Helios on the udder squad, my Yasmine is just straight up death

  • @pacosteaa
    @pacosteaa Год назад +2

    - Agree with Astaroth. :)) @BTW, Misty, i see more and more often that "Celeste and Twins are dead" and people should invest in Corvus + Morrigan.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      Celeste is still the second best hero in the game, not having her will make winning against a lot of teams a lot harder since you'll just time out versus Oliver patron, etc. Twins are still a very good attack team though are kind of poor on defense only because so many people invest in Isaac for raids but for attacking in wars and clashes, they are probably the best team in the game, I wish everyone in my guild had access to twins because they really are that good.
      Morrigan is a good hero to invest in since she's a hard counter versus Rufus. Corvus is alright but Aurora is a better investment. He's decent as a second tank for clashes on an advanced account though.

    • @elkr79
      @elkr79 Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine Celeste is good when she has real attacking chances, she is miserable in defense thanks to devs who made Isaac as indispensable hero.

    • @pacosteaa
      @pacosteaa Год назад +2

      @@MistyKathrine - Thank you. I took Aurora to Max. Almost there with Twins, Sebastian, Jhu, Isaac + Nebula for Asgard. And a quick question: Next Pet to invest, Albuş for Sebastian or Biscuit for Celeste? *I still need Axel on Lars at the moment and my Mara is only Violet +0. I want one Pet at the moment. Good luck to everybody and cheers with a cold beer. (*Axel, Cain and Merlin are top)

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      @@elkr79 I see her on defense all of the time.

    • @elkr79
      @elkr79 Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine it might be in your server, yet in other ones Martha is more popular. For example, in one where I am playing, Celeste is represented only in 12 cases among top50; vast majority are putting Martha in defense. There are even cases where Martha & Maya are used for double healing.

  • @patricklefort1613
    @patricklefort1613 Год назад +1

    Astaroth is my main thank, he is max, and i’m proud of him

    • @bibihc
      @bibihc Год назад +2

      He has less places than other tanks, but he has his places. Imo best tanks atm are:
      1) Aurora
      2) Rufus
      3) Corvus
      4) Asta

    • @bibihc
      @bibihc Год назад +2

      Rufus+Dante is so good on defense

  • @jeffphillips5210
    @jeffphillips5210 Год назад +2

    my lian tank team would wreck this kiera line and heya Misty k this is Kurt from the best place

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Yeah it's an easy line to beat. Really frustrating to watch people fail against it.

  • @janivarolsen8289
    @janivarolsen8289 Год назад +2

    I can beat that team very easy by using astaroth as a tank. Just have to choose other heroes than the twins

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      You missed the point of the video. In those other lines Astaroth would still be a worse performer than nearly every other tank. He's an inferior choice and a waste of resources.

    • @janivarolsen8289
      @janivarolsen8289 Год назад

      @@MistyKathrine Anyway, i beat a lot of 1million power teams with astaroth as a tank. According to you, that should be impossible. Astaroth protects my teams very well. It is not necessary for a tank to do massive damage. My aurora is maxed out, but i use astaroth way more often. Because aurora gets killed very quick against a lot of teams. It is harder to kill astaroth. And therefor he is an excellent tank

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад

      @@janivarolsen8289 I didn't say impossible, but you are using an inferior hero. You would be able to beat a much larger number of teams with a better tank.

  • @BehzadSardar-pv5vp
    @BehzadSardar-pv5vp 5 месяцев назад

    1:22

  • @MakaayYazhnam
    @MakaayYazhnam Год назад +3

    you keep trashing Astaroth and yet you lose almost half of the battles in this video againt him with rest of the attacking team being a good counter to the defending team... by that logic he should lose almost all matches and not half of it... and from all tanks you tried only Aurora and Corvus (in some way) are in major use as maxed out heros... Who uses maxed out Galahad or Ziri... or... or Alvanor!?... there's a counter to every hero in this game - that's what makes this game so interesting. Astaroth's certainly not the best hero or even best tank but he could use as support and has resurrection as a great combo with baby arachne to counter some mighty expensive teams... and that's pretty cheap to get.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      Defending team would be stronger if they used Aurora or Rufus. Astaroth is a bad investment and a waste of resources. You should also watch the video I linked in the pinned comment/description where I go into more detail. Astaroth sucks and is worse than ever post Ascension.

    • @MakaayYazhnam
      @MakaayYazhnam Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine yeah I know of that video coz I watch your channel... and yet you again tried to push him in aurora's shoes and convince everybody that he's garbage... you keep putting him in a bad spot and you take pleasure from defeating him in some mismatches... I almost feel that he has cost you some crucial wins (or you think he did) in the past and broke your heart and now you hate him like some ex-boyfriend.
      Try to win some like Charlie did - ruclips.net/video/qtlg9qs0XkI/видео.html

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      @@MakaayYazhnam I could make a video like this every day. He's a bad investment and the definition of a newby trap.
      If I had a dollar for every time Astaroth lost a fight for my guild in Guild Wars I would probably have been repaid all of the money I spent on this game. Astaroth is a waste of resources when there are better places to put those same resources and having Astaroth as your main "tank" holds you and your guild back.

    • @MakaayYazhnam
      @MakaayYazhnam Год назад +3

      @@MistyKathrine now I'm sure... you loved him before! He was your main tank... protector of lil' Misty Kathrine... life was good in the dominion for you two... and then - the hell went loose... and once mighty knight became a dark deamon!

  • @AndreiBaciu007
    @AndreiBaciu007 Год назад

    Astaroth, "probably the worst tank" as you say is on defence too and won. Not Astaroth but the twins being too slow lost. Astaroth is probably the best tank: it is good with right combo against Iris, Twins, Dante, Isaac etc.

  • @davidherder3568
    @davidherder3568 Год назад

    The absolute WORST thing about Hero Wars as a game is being forced to invest in heroes I DO NOT WANT in order to complete single steps in the campaign or other parts of the game. Other games with guilds allow guild members to trade resources... but not this one!! I think we ALL know why.

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Aren't any heroes needed for the campaign that aren't good else where though.

  • @janivarolsen8289
    @janivarolsen8289 Год назад

    Now a days everybody is using Iris. And iris kills aurora in just a few seconds. It is very easy to kill aurora

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +1

      Iris is good versus any tank not named Rufus which is why you see Rufus on defense so much. Aurora has more health than most tanks which still makes her better than average against Iris and Aurora's ability to dodge buff is actually really useful against Bitey as she can usually have a dodge buff up or 2 before Bitey comes down. Also Iris is a terrible defender.

    • @tobikage_forever7853
      @tobikage_forever7853 Год назад

      Iris + Full power Albus = magic.

  • @trnovsky33
    @trnovsky33 Год назад

    yeah play only meta hero if you want to be on top ok but it is not all people wish

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад

      If you're a champion in a gold league guild it's really important that you're developing the characters that will help your guild win.

    • @trnovsky33
      @trnovsky33 Год назад +1

      @@MistyKathrine Well thats propably true if you want to be on top you need to play meta because if not you are not on top

  • @janivarolsen8289
    @janivarolsen8289 Год назад

    It is just stupid to claim that astaroth not should be used as a tank. In a lot of cases, he is better tank than aurora

    • @MistyKathrine
      @MistyKathrine  Год назад +2

      Astaroth is trash as a tank and no he's not better than Aurora. Astaroth offers no DPS, no utility, has a garbage ult, can't counter Martha, and has relatively poor damage mitigation.