When Magnus Carlsen Was Accused Of Cheating

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  • When Magnus Carlsen Was Accused Of Cheating
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  • @ClassicalMate
    @ClassicalMate  11 месяцев назад +87

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    • @thesharky
      @thesharky 11 месяцев назад +9

      call 911*

    • @gamerpro608
      @gamerpro608 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@thesharky and then lose all of your money to the american health care system lol

    • @thesharky
      @thesharky 10 месяцев назад

      @@gamerpro608 Joe Biden promised free health care

    • @michaeljohn8341
      @michaeljohn8341 10 месяцев назад +2

      Mcyum

    • @villss894
      @villss894 10 месяцев назад +1

      welp mcyum good vid

  • @knull416
    @knull416 8 месяцев назад +828

    "How do we know he's not cheating"
    "Sir he's better than our engine"

    • @Wileoo
      @Wileoo 7 месяцев назад +13

      well technically he lost to stockfish but in some cases yeah

    • @woodworkingDad64
      @woodworkingDad64 7 месяцев назад +3

      Seriously though 😂

    • @obi-wankenobi5411
      @obi-wankenobi5411 5 месяцев назад +17

      No one is better than chess engines. Even the weak ones are above 3500+ these days. And stockfish is like 4000+. But for computers, ELO gets calculated differently. If they were rated like humans, stockfish would be above 5000. And magnus barely touched 3000. The difference is night and day. To stockfish, magnus would be someone who just learnt chess.
      So no, he is not better than engines. That simply is not possible. If god played chess with stockfish, stockfi would probably manage to force a draw one or twice. That's how powerful it actually is.

    • @Wileoo
      @Wileoo 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@obi-wankenobi5411 its a joke bro

    • @reyanshagrawal2613
      @reyanshagrawal2613 4 месяца назад

      I would try to fill your brains with the data that magnus bot drew full strength stockfish 10 times out of 10 when white. I can't, because you don't have any.@@obi-wankenobi5411

  • @LoganH0076
    @LoganH0076 2 месяца назад +58

    So... zero accusations of cheating? Got it

  • @TheDinkyy
    @TheDinkyy 11 месяцев назад +661

    TLDR
    Magnus gets a win rather than a draw despite having only a king and a bishop, despite Alireza being three pawns up in an opposite color bishop end game. This is because checkmate is TECHNICALLY possbile, even though extremely unlikely at GM level.
    Alireza also calls Magnus's conduct into question because he alleged that him swearing at himself in Norwegian was done deliberately to distract. The word "cheating" is never used at all other than the clickbait title

    • @auspiciousjelly3919
      @auspiciousjelly3919 11 месяцев назад +18

      The checkmate possibility was not just extremely unlikely at GM level. It was almost impossible at any level as even white had to throw everything so hard. In short, both sides had to work together for the checkmate

    • @exander77
      @exander77 10 месяцев назад +56

      I was distracted by Alireza dropping pieces all over the board and I didn't even play the game.

    • @idehenebenezer
      @idehenebenezer 9 месяцев назад +4

      They should surely hire you as one of the AI trainers for training AIs like ChatGPT in summarizing content😅😅
      Good job man

    • @aaaaaa-hh8cq
      @aaaaaa-hh8cq 8 месяцев назад +5

      Alireza lost because his hands shake like crazy lmao

    • @DevinDTV
      @DevinDTV 8 месяцев назад +12

      The likelihood of a checkmate is irrelevant. He ran out of time so he lost.

  • @brunomaelstrom8823
    @brunomaelstrom8823 10 месяцев назад +243

    Norwegian swearing is very powerful

    • @Fashbinder
      @Fashbinder 8 месяцев назад +21

      I believe he said "Fus Roh Da"

    • @gIokk
      @gIokk 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Fashbinderclassic meme 💯

    • @slivovitz1683
      @slivovitz1683 3 месяца назад +2

      He wrote an appeal that magnus distracted him by making him shit his pants

    • @durian8690
      @durian8690 13 дней назад

      norwegian cheating is looking out very careful and clever

  • @RearAdmiralTootToot
    @RearAdmiralTootToot 8 месяцев назад +113

    The guy who lost kept playing chess even after the chess game was over, and lost that game too. A for effort, F for results.

    • @bretth4988
      @bretth4988 7 месяцев назад +15

      He knocked over a few pieces as well whilst in play. If anything he should be disqualified.

  • @jstnrgrs
    @jstnrgrs 7 месяцев назад +31

    To call this a cheating accusation seems a bit too strong. Magnus was accused of violating a rule regarding his behavior during the match (an accusation that doesn't hold up). I would think cheating implies getting outside help, or sneaking a piece off the board or something.

    • @StreakyBaconMan
      @StreakyBaconMan 15 дней назад

      There just isn't many scandals in professional chess, so when there is even a TINY scandal it gets blown out of all proportion.

    • @raywym4934
      @raywym4934 10 дней назад

      Lmao sneaking a piece off the board you can't be serious

  • @galgal34
    @galgal34 11 месяцев назад +85

    bro really put an 50s ad in a 6m video. cant believe alireza is that petty

    • @SteveT-v6n
      @SteveT-v6n 4 месяца назад +1

      Right.

    • @Mango_TalingChan
      @Mango_TalingChan 3 месяца назад +1

      Let's say faintly good-looking, but not that pretty.

    • @pautraj
      @pautraj 20 дней назад +1

      @@Mango_TalingChanthe person said ‘petty’,not ‘pretty’

  • @SKIBIDI-IN-OHIO
    @SKIBIDI-IN-OHIO 11 месяцев назад +589

    i never thought alireza firouzja would get so jelous, this is not normal at all... (magnus carlsen is just better😂)

    • @PHO3NIX6173
      @PHO3NIX6173 11 месяцев назад +23

      Im guessing it was a big game and he needed a win or draw for some points but yeah 😂

    • @qade-qe5hl
      @qade-qe5hl 11 месяцев назад +22

      If magnus is just better then why was he losing so badly lol

    • @PHO3NIX6173
      @PHO3NIX6173 11 месяцев назад +51

      @@qade-qe5hl hes human first of all second he still won

    • @U2WR4
      @U2WR4 11 месяцев назад +12

      i am huge fan of magnus but in this game he was NOT the better player

    • @aulongp9974
      @aulongp9974 10 месяцев назад

      @@qade-qe5hlFr

  • @raantas946
    @raantas946 Месяц назад +3

    If Alireza complained of Magnus yelling Norwegian, it'd have been an off-the-board Brilliancy

  • @joan4p704
    @joan4p704 18 дней назад +5

    Clickbait and lies. He NEVER accused Magnus of Cheating.

  • @JoshxIZ
    @JoshxIZ 11 месяцев назад +84

    I think he got caught up in all the excitment and was so determined he was going to win he couldnt believe otherwise. But if it should of been a draw or not is not for me to say

    • @GMBlunderfish1
      @GMBlunderfish1 11 месяцев назад +7

      Magnus winned ON TIME

    • @stanleycapps4108
      @stanleycapps4108 11 месяцев назад +7

      theoritically it should have been a draw, but the fact is Magnus won on time.

    • @robocopleextraordinaire4148
      @robocopleextraordinaire4148 7 месяцев назад +1

      No, not for you to say - thats why we have rules...

    • @solidmoon8266
      @solidmoon8266 6 месяцев назад +1

      Clock ran out, white lost. That's it. If it truely became a stalemate, then that would've been declared. But there were pawns and bishops still in play so the game was still playable with either side potentially winning. So the clock time is the deciding factor.

    • @T3n50r
      @T3n50r 4 месяца назад

      @@GMBlunderfish1 *Won on time, not "winned". Don't mean to be a dick, just trying to be helpful

  • @andremaines
    @andremaines 11 месяцев назад +80

    I love how fast paced and exciting you make your videos! Great work I’m a big fan! 👍🏻

  • @alb_gaming06
    @alb_gaming06 10 месяцев назад +10

    I can't believe that the guy who owns this channel also owns the McYum channel. I just watched a documentary about it.

  • @shogrran
    @shogrran 2 месяца назад +1

    This is the worst way to handle a loss. Making excuses AFTER the fact.

  • @supremejustice22
    @supremejustice22 11 месяцев назад +16

    Never safe from marketing

  • @aritrabose8h852
    @aritrabose8h852 Месяц назад +1

    when chess spoke for magnus

  • @Bruzzzio
    @Bruzzzio 11 месяцев назад +11

    Magnus magnus’d because Magnus magnuses to el magnum for Magnus which magneses Magnus to Magnus the Magnus with magnusing, and magnuses the Magnus, which Magnus wins. Basically, gibberish.

  • @SnowyIsHere
    @SnowyIsHere 11 месяцев назад +10

    Welcome back Classical!

  • @slivovitz1683
    @slivovitz1683 3 месяца назад +1

    I like how Grischuk, the expert on having no time left in a chess game, appears to explain

  • @gutenbird
    @gutenbird 10 месяцев назад +9

    While I think MC is the clear winner, it seems a bizarre rule that a player should bring up questionable behavior by another player during the game.

    • @tomatoisnotafruit5670
      @tomatoisnotafruit5670 7 месяцев назад +4

      it's not bizarre, if Alizera won would he bring up Magnus swearing at himself? No he wouldn't, he would say ah that's no problem, but now that he lost on time, now all of a sudden it's a problem?

  • @JohnSmith-ti9uq
    @JohnSmith-ti9uq 7 месяцев назад +2

    He screwed up on time. Nobody to blame but himself. He knows the rules.

  • @CruL3er
    @CruL3er 3 месяца назад +1

    Disliked. Clickbait title and 50 second ad in a 6 minute video. Shame!

  • @Bluzlbee
    @Bluzlbee 6 месяцев назад +2

    Alireza is definitely a Tekken 8 plugger

  • @jonathancoetzee-h3r
    @jonathancoetzee-h3r 11 месяцев назад +24

    my goodness why does anyone ever challenge magnus he is insanely good and that is an understatement

    • @PrinceFlop
      @PrinceFlop 9 месяцев назад +3

      he almost lost bro, he has lost before and will lose again and there will be stronger players than him. there always are bigger fish in the ocean

    • @floof6896
      @floof6896 9 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@PrinceFlophe has lost, yes, he's obviously not unbeatable. but to say there are WAY better players than him that are alive today? i don't think so.

    • @ai_singularity
      @ai_singularity 9 месяцев назад

      @@PrinceFlop There are no bigger fish than him at the moment alive.

    • @PrinceFlop
      @PrinceFlop 9 месяцев назад

      there will be@@ai_singularity

    • @incognito5416
      @incognito5416 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ai_singularitybro has been winning tournaments left and right, so can u plz tell me who these "bigger fishes" are?? Btw, who was it that won the last rapid, blitz and fide world cup championship?? I kinda forgot🤔🤣🤣🤣

  • @SunItsRising
    @SunItsRising 11 месяцев назад +12

    classical has the best chess videos ong

  • @akashyadagouda896
    @akashyadagouda896 8 месяцев назад +4

    Maguns be like.. its a bonus.

  • @acarthatgoesbeeep5714
    @acarthatgoesbeeep5714 11 месяцев назад +11

    Hes finally back!!!!

  • @Studieswithahmad1234
    @Studieswithahmad1234 3 месяца назад

    Every single chess RUclips is sponsored by Morgan and Morgan

  • @tunglevu7613
    @tunglevu7613 10 месяцев назад +2

    That's surprising, all this time, this was McYum

  • @rajkishoremahato5173
    @rajkishoremahato5173 10 дней назад

    if you are winning against Magnus in chess. Trust me you are under Genjutsu

  • @Wesz808
    @Wesz808 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think the E5 response was already suspicious. Has it been played in a chess game ever before?

    • @davogdan926
      @davogdan926 11 месяцев назад +10

      Bro Magnus is the GOAT ofcours he is making provaktive moves he is better than most people like me and u

    • @JoeMama-sk4wg
      @JoeMama-sk4wg 10 месяцев назад +2

      The gameplay really doesn’t matter tbh magnus is just too good at chess and it doesnt even matter if he beats stockfish the way this guy plays is beyond human comprehension and i mean that.

    • @Eliterum
      @Eliterum 9 месяцев назад

      *"Tell me you're a 1000 ELO player without telling me you're a 1000 ELO player"*@@JoeMama-sk4wg

    • @JoeMama-sk4wg
      @JoeMama-sk4wg 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Eliterum" *Tell* *me* *your* *a* *600* *elo* *player* *without* *Telling* *me* *your* *a* *600* *elo* *player* "

    • @Eliterum
      @Eliterum 7 месяцев назад

      @@JoeMama-sk4wg I am a 1800 bozo..

  • @FrothyPine
    @FrothyPine 3 месяца назад

    The pain of running out of time in chess is so annoying. I understand the guys pain

  • @Poorboycrypto
    @Poorboycrypto 6 месяцев назад +1

    Why such a long ad for such a short video?

  • @randomized8420
    @randomized8420 8 месяцев назад +4

    What is the music called at the start of the video and at the end of the video?

  • @HappyG1lm0re
    @HappyG1lm0re 4 дня назад

    Never go with Morgan and Morgan. Because their ad interrupted this game.

  • @bretth4988
    @bretth4988 7 месяцев назад +1

    If anything the other dude cheated knocking over the chess pieces a few times.

  • @justingaming5813
    @justingaming5813 11 месяцев назад +3

    YOOO, you're back!!

  • @johnproton259
    @johnproton259 10 месяцев назад +8

    My take.... MC shouldn't be cussing, AF should have been calmer in the endgame, even under time pressure (as he is nowadays, with a bit more age and experience), getting flagged and losing is the rules so I guess the reality of MC having a lost position and winning rather than drawing is just tough shit. AF will and has learned and MC doesn't seem to have such histrionics over the board these days either.

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour 9 месяцев назад +6

      "No taking" rule is bs. Bring some excitement with shit talk and blow horn fans calling you nasty names. You can't even golf clap.

  • @youssefkhalifa1407
    @youssefkhalifa1407 11 месяцев назад +3

    Why do you make videos in a while

  • @SBanderaB
    @SBanderaB 3 месяца назад +1

    Firouzja simply embarrassed himself. You can't buy and apparently you cant learn class.....

  • @rosahildavelazquezrangel1409
    @rosahildavelazquezrangel1409 3 месяца назад

    In this why Hikaru was so Angry with Alireza in the Bullet match

  • @onfiree3519
    @onfiree3519 4 месяца назад

    He had a chances to win but he lost he couldn't take the losing game.

  • @zell177
    @zell177 5 месяцев назад

    Nah, just France and the French anger issues getting to a poor Iranian kid.

  • @superbabamama1
    @superbabamama1 10 месяцев назад +1

    I would have no idea this guy was McYum

  • @thinkgamez
    @thinkgamez 10 месяцев назад +1

    Mcyum is that you?

  • @ProMobilePlayer-oh9gx
    @ProMobilePlayer-oh9gx 7 месяцев назад

    Lesson learned: never take Magnus pawn, unless you have a death wish.

  • @Changlio-
    @Changlio- 5 месяцев назад

    What kids do when they lose a game😂

  • @Loopinmedog
    @Loopinmedog 11 месяцев назад +1

    “Sugzwange”

  • @drkupo8868
    @drkupo8868 8 месяцев назад +6

    I love this dude when he just crushes these little crybabys lool his facial expression is priceless 😂😂😂

  • @persona5305
    @persona5305 8 месяцев назад +1

    Alireza may have been distracted or got triggered by Magnus's cursing which may affected his psychology but nah.. he still isn't as good as magnus.

  • @Theoddoneouts
    @Theoddoneouts 10 месяцев назад +11

    Finally a channel that knows how to cover chess matches in a fun way! 😮❤

  • @22dunix3
    @22dunix3 7 месяцев назад

    The spotlight effect felt super annoying, i'm trying to look at the board dude

  • @danielsharp2012
    @danielsharp2012 2 месяца назад +1

    Magnus should not of won that game. He broke the rules

  • @DCFunBud
    @DCFunBud 6 месяцев назад

    I always try to avoid cursing in Nowegian while playing chess.

  • @ambitiousmuslimrecordings3451
    @ambitiousmuslimrecordings3451 6 месяцев назад

    Disliked for the Clickbait title. Great video, great quality, great analysis, deceiving title.

  • @billybynorth7467
    @billybynorth7467 6 месяцев назад

    This is the childish mentallity of a lot of chess players. Theyre a strange breed

  • @livingwater6218
    @livingwater6218 Месяц назад

    Do they pay you for the commercial? We can't watch a simple video without interruption on RUclips anymore.

    • @guillaume5325
      @guillaume5325 17 дней назад

      in 2024, I don't understand how some people can surf the internet without an ad blocker.... It's simply unbearable!!!

  • @shaniatubana1113
    @shaniatubana1113 11 месяцев назад +4

    How do you cheat in chess anyway…

    • @George.perez45
      @George.perez45 11 месяцев назад +3

      is hard to tell but theyll have either someone watching and tell them which one to move or a vibrating thing hidden in there clothing or shoe from what ive heard

    • @csabacsapo1864
      @csabacsapo1864 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@George.perez45vibrating things can be somewhere else too as we learnd in 2022

  • @theprogm7882
    @theprogm7882 Месяц назад

    Imagine accusing someone of cheating just cause he spoke out some words while dropping the chess pieces consistently 😂😂😂

  • @niwempleh
    @niwempleh 7 месяцев назад +1

    Still making some moves after the game is over, he had to try!

  • @Mine4062
    @Mine4062 4 месяца назад

    Alireza is a whiny little Firouzja.

  • @hariprakash5199
    @hariprakash5199 3 месяца назад

    Cheaters make the game unfair and quit. They just only cheat to beat magus Carlsson or other players, they take long stalls figuring out witch move is the best and mostly logging out to avoid termination

  • @robertbouley7697
    @robertbouley7697 6 месяцев назад

    Can’t beat ‘em?
    Accuse them of cheating.

  • @rayli4243
    @rayli4243 3 месяца назад

    Bro is just mad 💀💀💀

  • @sebournmichael
    @sebournmichael Месяц назад

    i wouldnt have a clue how to cheat some people work harder cheating than playing

  • @cvwhr
    @cvwhr 5 месяцев назад

    Poor sportsmanship from Alireza

  • @orphan-eater
    @orphan-eater 9 месяцев назад

    Why did i get a deepfake add of "ilon musk" telling me i am one of the few lucky people to get a 1000 dollars a day💀

  • @bsmartr806
    @bsmartr806 7 месяцев назад

    I find it more distracting and unprofessional that he keeps knocking over/dropping pieces.

  • @PortmanRd
    @PortmanRd 7 месяцев назад

    You can't have your cake and eat it.

  • @martasuljic3661
    @martasuljic3661 Месяц назад

    Soo , morgan and morgan

  • @BrentonSwafford
    @BrentonSwafford Месяц назад

    Wow, Ali is a sore loser. Just take the loss graciously like a real man.

  • @GigachadII
    @GigachadII 10 месяцев назад +2

    Nice one jared

  • @ZiaRaheman-kd7vu
    @ZiaRaheman-kd7vu 6 месяцев назад

    Bro was tumbling his pieces like humpty dumty and magnus din't say a word 😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😊

  • @procrastinathor4594
    @procrastinathor4594 7 месяцев назад

    so the title was a clickbait, how sad

  • @곡즈
    @곡즈 6 месяцев назад

    this will be 70% accurcy

  • @moreme40
    @moreme40 8 месяцев назад +1

    How does one cheat at chess ?

  • @solidmoon8266
    @solidmoon8266 6 месяцев назад

    Mate ran out his clock and tries to claim a draw out of nowhere. Come on mate, have some respect for the rules.
    Then has the audacity to later try and claim misconduct to claim a win he didnt deserve.

  • @MrThatsomg
    @MrThatsomg 11 месяцев назад +2

    Click bait

  • @fashidox
    @fashidox 5 месяцев назад

    Alireza is in the right though... in this situation, there's no forced checkmate for Magnus, but he didn't lose either henceforth it's a draw due to insufficient material.

  • @DreamWayClub
    @DreamWayClub 8 месяцев назад +3

    The argument that this was a draw, because it's allmost impossible to checkmate by Magnus in this position is bullshit. Thats why we need time rule. What if a person have 5 different moves, that all obvious for anyone over 1000 elo that leads to checkmate in one move, but he run out of time? How should we avaluate this? A draw, or maybe a win for a dominant position?
    In my opinion even if you have only king on the board and other person can't checkmate you and run out of time, it should be your win.
    But rules are rules, everybody play under the same conditions.

  • @muteguy341
    @muteguy341 6 месяцев назад

    Don't watch. Clickbait. You've been warned. He didn't cheat.

  • @abrahamissac5938
    @abrahamissac5938 Месяц назад

    Sore-Losers are found in every Sport.

  • @Dailguzyboyfromindia
    @Dailguzyboyfromindia 8 месяцев назад +1

    Magnus goat of All Time 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

  • @bro-x8l
    @bro-x8l 11 месяцев назад +4

    i am happy he is back

  • @MarianoFreyreX
    @MarianoFreyreX 2 месяца назад +1

    Alireza was totally wining

  • @SBG420
    @SBG420 5 месяцев назад

    really with the ad

  • @Aimingforthestars
    @Aimingforthestars 10 месяцев назад +2

    Mcyum?

  • @tomasgoes
    @tomasgoes 7 месяцев назад

    Shame to see Alireza being so pitiful.
    He doesn't need pettiness like this. He's more than strong enough to just win another day.
    Maybe not against Magnus, but... Still.

  • @jackthezodiac6136
    @jackthezodiac6136 29 дней назад

    Alireza is just coping Magnus slammed his ass so hardly ez 😂.

  • @gospelinsongandstory
    @gospelinsongandstory 2 месяца назад

    Experience helps

  • @lego69420
    @lego69420 11 месяцев назад +1

    your back

  • @thestarsaligned
    @thestarsaligned 11 месяцев назад +2

    THE AD IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR VIDEO IS SO SCAM LIKE. CLICK BAIT.

  • @ivailopavlovski5894
    @ivailopavlovski5894 10 месяцев назад

    No excuses plz

  • @michaelwalker552
    @michaelwalker552 11 месяцев назад +1

    There is an account on tiktok that stole your whole video, I can email links to you if you want.

  • @timgalivan2846
    @timgalivan2846 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always feel so bad for people like Magnus. He has so much in life going for him. Not many can say they are the best in the world at something. And yet still filled with such anger, hate, self-loathing, pride. I guess the 2 probably go hand in hand. One hand washes the other

  • @flacsmada
    @flacsmada 4 месяца назад

    really, giving up the pawn on b5 wasnt a blunder, it got the king away to clear the middle. But when he moved his e2 pawn up to try to keep it is the blunder... If he hadnt done that he would have won(unless he lost on time), but even then he still would have won if he had taken pawn on eg with his king instead of pushing the e5 pawn

  • @spiity1104
    @spiity1104 10 месяцев назад +3

    MCYUM

  • @daves3108
    @daves3108 6 месяцев назад

    Awe poor kid had never had to endure losing in his entitled life

  • @frankangie
    @frankangie 10 месяцев назад +2

    are you mcyum