What have you found to be a good APWH Modern topic to use for this exercise? The last time I taught this course we were virtual so we did not get the opportunity.
I've tried it that way, and while it has its merits, I was never able to make it work (though I know teachers for whom this works very well). So I always include the whole class (usually about 20-25). Probably anything above that would require two different discussions. If you try it, let me know how it goes!
What you could do is have 2 separate discussions. Have 15 kids discuss for half the time with the other 15 around the table & taking notes/watching. Halfway through class, swap the 15.
ON a broad level (at least as I understand it) they look very much the same. But the difference is that usually in a Socratic Seminar, the students are being led to a conclusion by a teacher. In a Harkness, students formulate their own questions and take the discussion in the way that seems to best answer those questions. I wouldn't say that's an authoritative answer, but that's how I understand the difference.
@@HeimlersHistoryTeachers When I was in the classroom I did Socratic, and began the year with me leading gradually releasing until it was completely student run by the end of the year. I had amazing results and students who might not have been on my radar for leadership emerged effortlessly. It helped with some LD students who might not be great readers and/or writers show they were excellent thinkers, organizers and verbal communicators.
from my understanding, it's essentially how much the teacher is involved. Teacher steers it in Socratic. Harkness is more the students steering it, kind of like a game of Ouija.
This was extremely helpful. Thank you!
Do you have an example of the rubric you give to students?
What have you found to be a good APWH Modern topic to use for this exercise? The last time I taught this course we were virtual so we did not get the opportunity.
I've held discussions on Columbus, Southernization, Decolonization, etc. Any topic will do as long as you help them get invested...
Awesome. Thanks for posting.
Can you link your copy of the Lincoln Douglas debate text?
Maybe i missed but how do you do this with a class of 30? Do you put one group in the middle and then have the rest of the class watch? Take notes?
I've tried it that way, and while it has its merits, I was never able to make it work (though I know teachers for whom this works very well). So I always include the whole class (usually about 20-25). Probably anything above that would require two different discussions. If you try it, let me know how it goes!
What you could do is have 2 separate discussions. Have 15 kids discuss for half the time with the other 15 around the table & taking notes/watching. Halfway through class, swap the 15.
Love your video! Wow!
Why do the discussions need to be graded at all?
Technically they don't, but the incentive was always necessary for my students.
Is a Harkness Discussion just another name for a Socratic Seminar? They sound identical…am I missing something?
ON a broad level (at least as I understand it) they look very much the same. But the difference is that usually in a Socratic Seminar, the students are being led to a conclusion by a teacher. In a Harkness, students formulate their own questions and take the discussion in the way that seems to best answer those questions. I wouldn't say that's an authoritative answer, but that's how I understand the difference.
@@HeimlersHistoryTeachers When I was in the classroom I did Socratic, and began the year with me leading gradually releasing until it was completely student run by the end of the year. I had amazing results and students who might not have been on my radar for leadership emerged effortlessly. It helped with some LD students who might not be great readers and/or writers show they were excellent thinkers, organizers and verbal communicators.
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Is a Harkness Discussion just another name for a Socratic Seminar? They sound identical…am I missing something?
from my understanding, it's essentially how much the teacher is involved. Teacher steers it in Socratic. Harkness is more the students steering it, kind of like a game of Ouija.