borrderland 2's story isnt even that special it's the ttypical rebel's vs empire story you see all the time in rpgs. remove handsomejack and what is left? he is holdding the narrative him self as he is well written annd his actor gives a great perfoamnce.
Really solid video. I would also like to add the following as detrimental to the BL2 experience: Barrels, Poor assault rifle damage, DoT damage scaling for player and enemies, Grog Nozzle being mandatory
Honestly I think legendaries don’t drop enough in bl2 and bl3 drops em too much. Like I hate spending 2 hours to get one gun that may or may not be the version I’m even looking for. It’s not a fun process and idk why people defend it so much.
If a BL2 remake was made in the thirds engine, I think they should consider the following (imo): - NVHM and TVHM alongside mayhem modes did way better than 3 fucking playthrus and up to 10 OP levels with an atrocious level gap - Implement the movement system BL3 had, like mantling and sliding - Drop rates massively increased (or maybe in the form of a new vault hunter relic in each playthru) - Optimize the mayhem level mob scallings so that slag is NOT obligatory - Iridium could perhaps be used to purchase limited time cosmetics or legendary items in Crazy Earl (sort of like the Vet rewards) - Option to skip cutscenes lol
I get your first couple points about the playthroughs and the level grinding, but you have to remember, BL2 evolved over time. The original level cap was 50, and that could easily be reached after the original two playthroughs. It wasn't until players demanded higher levels, harder enemies, and more for BL2 to give us UVHM, including getting to the point where overpower was a thing. Of course these things were already implemented by the time BL3 was conceived, so naturally they were applied to BL3 from the get-go. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case for BL2, as 2 playthroughs was considered the original "end game". Once all the DLC came out, including the Head Hunters and Digistruct Peak stuff, that's when BL2 opened up big time. Sure, it wasn't perfect by any measure, as it was a Frankenstein's monster of sorts, but the fact that players keep going back to BL2 for multiple playthroughs and no BL3 should say something. It's just overall a more enjoyable experience, despite its minor flaws. I mean, BL2 came out 12 years ago, and it is mass a massive online audience to this day. On Steam, BL2 on average has more players than BL3 as of this month, so whether you like it or not, the overall experience in BL2 is what draws people back. Flaws and all. ;)
This video isn't meant to be a 'borderlands 3 is better than Borderlands 2' hit piece. Simply just talking about borderlands 2's flaws. Each game does different things better, I'm not about to try and say which one is the best. That's just stupid
@@ConstantCanadian No, I get that, as the rest of your points were more poignant, as they are still realities despite all of the updates and "fixes". haha. I was just defending the first two points you addressed, because they were unfortunate results of the Frankenstein monster of updates and "fixes". I remember when UVHM released, fans were so happy, so it is hard for me to see that playthrough as a negative thing in retrospect. Sure, it would have been nice to have it in there to begin with, but that wasn't the case, and there wasn't anything they could do to retcon that without completely changing the playthrough system. The same goes with the level grinding. Getting to 50 was pretty easy, so they amped things up in UVHM and probably did the lower XP output to give fans more time to play while they worked on BL3. Sure, I can agree with you if those things were initially put into the game to begin with, it would have been nicer, but that wasn't the case. It was a product of many updates, paid DLC, and much more that evolved BL2 into what it is today, and generally, fans like it as it is now. It's not perfect, but it is wide and varied where it is now, if that makes sense.
@@jcsjapan I don't wana make this a 2 v 3 thing either, I love the whole series. But people do still play/stream/watch Bl3 as well, 5 years after release.. The forever Bl2 crowd always acts like Bl3 was a failure and its just not true.
@@pacthe6376 I didn't say BL3 was a failure. Just simply pointing out that most BL fans gravitate towards BL2 at the end of the day. It has the best Sanctuary (At least in my opinion), more stuff to do, and a healthier drop rate for Legendaries. Sure, BL3 has the smoother gameplay, better mechanics, and excellent skill trees, but the characters were not nearly as fleshed out at BL2, killing Maya was a major mistake, Ava is about as unlikable as a character can get, the Calypso twins were AWFUL (In a bad way, from a storytelling perspective), and Legendaries dropped all of the time and were often not very good, making them lose their prestige. Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that the fluidity of gameplay in BL3 is why hardcore fans stay there, but there is also a huge chunk of fans that gravitate towards BL2 for all the reasons BL3 drops the ball. I hope that makes sense. Not knocking BL3. Just being real.
Bl3 felt like off, I agree the gameplay and build diversity was amazing, but at the same time I feel like the game throws an annoying amount of legendaries at you. Like I feel like I didn’t earn the weapons I used. Also I love the concept of slag, I get it’s annoying you have to use it once you reach uvhm but I don’t mind considering how easy it is to incorporate in almost any build. The debuff aspect of slag is awesome and I feel they should reintroduce it, but not make it necessary, just an option to kill faster if you choose to use it. I really just wish they didn’t lose the charm of the franchise but I feel like once the games left pandora it started to feel off. I’m also not a huge fan of the new writing, shit use to be crass but at least funny. Now the jokes are all stinkers.
Yea, I agree that the legendary drop rate in BL3 is way too high. And again, I had no problem with slag until it started becoming mandatory, I love the it's piss grenade in BL3 (+25% damage against enemies.) And while I do agree that the writing is a little worse, the 15th time I'm playing, I'm just save-quit skipping half the dialog anyway.
@@ConstantCanadian I have to give the game another shot because I wasn’t feeling it so I fell off after the main story. But I hear the dlc and end game is pretty good and as a fan of 2’s end game im gonna attempt to make it there in 3. Im just hoping 4 has better writing cause it sucks we went from my favorite villain to probably my least favorite villains in video games. Like the calypso twins made me feel like an idiot for being invested in the story up to that point.
@@6cmcnc6 yea, the writing in Borderlands 3 is certainly rough, but after you finish the story that's when the ACTUAL game begins, and you start having fun
One more thing that is not mentioned is the weapon parts when farming for guns. It varies based on guns but: - The game has a high chance NOT to give you an accessory. This is important for guns like Sand hawk which requires the Flying prefix or shotguns which require the extra 2 pellets for example. - If the gun can spawn with both elemental and non-elemental, the game has a high chance NOT to give you an element. Elemental matching is obviously important in the end game. This is why farming for a good Sand Hawk can take a lot of patience. It is even worse for guns that are not quest reward and with a low drop rate from dedicated source. Why punish the player?
I use to hate slag and now I can’t live without it, I wish they’d bring it to 3 but I can see why they don’t. Still I wish there was another debuff similar to it.
@@6cmcnc6 they overlap and one is just a flat damage increase. If we made 10 new elements that were functionally identical to Slag but were different colors it'd increase options but not in a good way. Enemies shouldn't be designed to have so much HP that it's borderline required to hit them with a status effect that triples their damage taken. Granted some of that is the result of damage reduction from OP levels.
@@archduke0000 but I’m not saying we need 10 types of slag, just one would be nice for players who like the debuff, and the guys that don’t like it don’t have to use it.
Technically TVHM and UVHM are end game for all bl games so the one playthrough on bl3 is wrong though it is easier to get to lvl 72 (max lvl) just to deal a significant amount of damage on mayhem you need to do TVHM and UVHM
Imagine if instead of one character getting companions, you could have them on any character by going out and capturing them In the universe. And they had their own separate skill tree
Same thing with melee, separate skill tree, same for all characters, anybody who lay through with any character can be a melee only challenge, no sacrificing any skills to try a melee build, just pure freedom. Makes no sense not to do it this way
It’d be a way to increase the grind cuz they could make the drops rare with different unique parts to farm for same as guns, and just decrease the impossibility of finding everything else
When you put it all like that, it makes 3 seem a lot better. Most of these sere resolved and some of the resolutions, such as build diversity, became major selling points of the game
I’m stuck on OP 5 and am getting so tired and burnt out. I’ve been using my lv 80 sand hawk as maya and just casually upgrading my bee shield each op level. I wanna give up 🥵
That's usually about the point I got to before I gave up. It would be so bad if you were given more than 1 life to do it, but 95% of the time, I would die to DOT damage to the last enemy before the final boss.
as much as i and im sure many others enjoy the bl2 weapon part system, the fact that a single part can make an otherwise great weapon feel completely unusable like the grip or prefex or sometimes even both is a real turnoff. nothings worse than seeing an on level dpuh drop but with a dahl grip or seeing the elusive norfleet drop but its slag element, the re-rolling feature of bl3 would be killer in every other bordlerands game too in order to fix the grips or prefixes of a gun you already put a lot of time into obtaining.
I’ll probably give 4 a shot when it’s out but I’m pretty much just done with this community. Your comments section is more than enough proof that it’s probably the best decision anyone can make. I thought there couldn’t be a worse community than souls fans or PvP fans but man borderlands sure proved me wrong. I love the games but its fans are something else.
@nathanhendrickson790 it really is a shame to see the community as absolutely divided like this. Luckily it's single player and you're not required to interact with the community if you don't want
@@ConstantCanadian trust me it’s probably the best decision I’ve ever made in fact this was the first borderlands video I ever watched in week. But if a community sinks lower than souls fans ever could I take that as a sign it’s time to go 😂. I remember when this community was actually fun to be in now it’s just an every day fight between mom and dad while I’m just tuning it out with music.
UVHM is always rough for the first playthrough, but once you figure out what you NEED to do to deal decent damage, it's not as bad. I truly don't know what Gearbox was thinking with Mayhem 2.0, freaking disaster
@@adamwaggeh2216 Better gameplay, worse story, lots of content...but easier than ever to get op too quickly. The game spits legendaries at you faaaaaaaar too much so it's never once a challenge.
BL2 is considered the GOAT for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the story and characters. BL2's writing is the best of the whole bunch, with The Pre-Sequel being a close second. BL1 got things started, but it just feels incredibly lacking now with BL2 and BL3 being out. BL3 in regards to gameplay is the best, without question, but the story is a drag. The twins are just annoying in all the wrong ways, and it is unfortunate that Handsome Jack set the bar so high for an interesting villain in BL2. I also felt like the quests in BL3 weren't any better than BL2, but frankly, they felt worse because the main story was lacking, which means the side stories were often lacking as well. BL3 is definitely still worth playing. It doesn't have the longevity of BL2, but there is a ton of content, loads of legendaries, and the gameplay is the best it has ever been in BL3. I still find myself going back to BL2 way more now, but I do jump on BL3 every so often for the excellent gameplay.
Another amazing change they could do is just allowing element swapping on guns. Like obviously not make it so that every element can be chosen on every gun but give us limited options to choose from on different guns that we can swap out on the fly instead of impossibly long farms trying to get the same shit in every element. Fucking figure it out I say
@@ConstantCanadian sorta yea but not I mean like swapping it out in your inventory, not on the fly like that but I suppose it was a nice addition what bl3 did
“To me, it’s just dumb that in order to unlock the hardest difficulties, you have to complete some of the hardest content in the game.” Really? Cuz the way you put it, it makes perfect sense that to unlock the next hardest difficulty, you have to complete the previously hardest challenge. 😂 That’s clear linear progression. In order to unlock hardest parts of any game, you usually have to process through progressively harder challenges. Boss 10 is the hardest? Gotta beat boss 9 to get there. Boss 9 is harder than boss 8, gotta beat boss 9 to get to it. Etc. Boss 1 is the easiest, opening the path to boss 2.
Honestly I'm more of a fan of BL3 than I am of 2. However, I'm willing to admit that Borderlands 2 has far better writing then it's successor, and while the skill trees are worse, they actual class mods are better imo. Borderlands 2 also has far more raid bosses than 3, and also has pearlescents and other super rare drops to farm for, which is cool.
Honestly it's not the best in terms of gameplay. Story like say sure, it's the best in the series ( it's still assume tbh but jack is great ). Also list is pretty much the same as mine. I love bl2 but could you imagine it without the issues it has
this whole video feels like a "i hate grinding in a game that's based around grinding" at the same time, doesn't bl2fix just, as the name implies, fix everything of it? might just be worth playing with that considering the stance you're taking in the video also might even be better to change the title into "what I consider is wrong with bl2"
For me, Borderlands is a series about grinding loot, not xp and op levels. Grinding loot can be kept interesting by other drops you aren't particularly farming for. Whereas with xp and op levels 90% of the time, it's get 3, farm 1 weapon, repeat. 10+ hours of level grinding is just too much for one game
@@ConstantCanadian while i do understand where you're coming from, it still is a game based around grinding for stuff (even if it's extremely tedious and mind numbing to do bad maw runs for xp). i'd still recommend bl2fix as it really just improves it so much as t's probably too late for 2k to fix or add any QoL changes
Most of these points are just complaining about grinding or just a Skill issue. All of this is fixed if you play on pc with qol of life mods and you can skip the whole first playthrough with the FFS dlc
You know what, I'll give you the last point there, I completely forgot about the lvl 30 skip in BL2, so that definitely solves that issue. But if you need to install mods to 'fix' a game, you can't then turn around and pretend that same game is perfection.
Played BL3 first and disliked the game play of BL2 upon playing it. Respect to all BL players, but we all have different opinions. Looking forward to BL4😉
first -> i prefer Borderlands 3, why ? 2 different reasons -> 1 - Borderlands 3 gives me these fantastic weapons and so fuckin much of them. In BL2 it feels like the game don´t wont to show me the "Real Stuff". For other people is the way BL3 gives you these tons of loot a negativ point but not for me: these loot is the identity of this game. I also played Wonderlands and liked it but , besides the blood/gore i missed, i got no NOOOO really amazing Legendary Weapon. I got a few ones in my bag but they are not very special , they just puttin out a bit more DMG but WHO THE FUCK are the crazy effects. In BL 3 i got over 400 different Legendarys in my chest and its gettin more. the 2 reason againts BL2 is the importent one - the traveling system !!!!!! its absoluty dogshit !!!! i`m running over the same maps again and again and kills the same enemy again and again. sometimes i really want to play BL 2 , espacially because its a harder and sometimes the my partner and i really gettin our asses kicked -> these f**** Helicopters for example. But we like this. Hard work for hard loot ;) but sometimes i look at the map and the mission - see the enemys far away and 1 sec later -> ALT F4. BL3 is not perfect in the traveling , in my opionen i dont need these open parts where i can drive around -> these gives me nothing, But BL 3 did it so much better than 2
I agree so far, except for Digistruct Peak. The repetitiveness is obviously stupid, but the course itself and the subsequent OP are still the best endgame despite the weakness.
borrderland 2's story isnt even that special it's the ttypical rebel's vs empire story you see all the time in rpgs.
remove handsomejack and what is left? he is holdding the narrative him self as he is well written annd his actor gives a great perfoamnce.
Really solid video. I would also like to add the following as detrimental to the BL2 experience:
Barrels, Poor assault rifle damage, DoT damage scaling for player and enemies, Grog Nozzle being mandatory
Honestly I think legendaries don’t drop enough in bl2 and bl3 drops em too much. Like I hate spending 2 hours to get one gun that may or may not be the version I’m even looking for. It’s not a fun process and idk why people defend it so much.
Nostalgia mostly. but it's kind of a balancing act that gearbox is struggling to get right
If a BL2 remake was made in the thirds engine, I think they should consider the following (imo):
- NVHM and TVHM alongside mayhem modes did way better than 3 fucking playthrus and up to 10 OP levels with an atrocious level gap
- Implement the movement system BL3 had, like mantling and sliding
- Drop rates massively increased (or maybe in the form of a new vault hunter relic in each playthru)
- Optimize the mayhem level mob scallings so that slag is NOT obligatory
- Iridium could perhaps be used to purchase limited time cosmetics or legendary items in Crazy Earl (sort of like the Vet rewards)
- Option to skip cutscenes lol
I get your first couple points about the playthroughs and the level grinding, but you have to remember, BL2 evolved over time. The original level cap was 50, and that could easily be reached after the original two playthroughs. It wasn't until players demanded higher levels, harder enemies, and more for BL2 to give us UVHM, including getting to the point where overpower was a thing. Of course these things were already implemented by the time BL3 was conceived, so naturally they were applied to BL3 from the get-go. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case for BL2, as 2 playthroughs was considered the original "end game". Once all the DLC came out, including the Head Hunters and Digistruct Peak stuff, that's when BL2 opened up big time. Sure, it wasn't perfect by any measure, as it was a Frankenstein's monster of sorts, but the fact that players keep going back to BL2 for multiple playthroughs and no BL3 should say something. It's just overall a more enjoyable experience, despite its minor flaws. I mean, BL2 came out 12 years ago, and it is mass a massive online audience to this day. On Steam, BL2 on average has more players than BL3 as of this month, so whether you like it or not, the overall experience in BL2 is what draws people back. Flaws and all. ;)
This video isn't meant to be a 'borderlands 3 is better than Borderlands 2' hit piece. Simply just talking about borderlands 2's flaws. Each game does different things better, I'm not about to try and say which one is the best. That's just stupid
@@ConstantCanadian No, I get that, as the rest of your points were more poignant, as they are still realities despite all of the updates and "fixes". haha. I was just defending the first two points you addressed, because they were unfortunate results of the Frankenstein monster of updates and "fixes". I remember when UVHM released, fans were so happy, so it is hard for me to see that playthrough as a negative thing in retrospect. Sure, it would have been nice to have it in there to begin with, but that wasn't the case, and there wasn't anything they could do to retcon that without completely changing the playthrough system. The same goes with the level grinding. Getting to 50 was pretty easy, so they amped things up in UVHM and probably did the lower XP output to give fans more time to play while they worked on BL3. Sure, I can agree with you if those things were initially put into the game to begin with, it would have been nicer, but that wasn't the case. It was a product of many updates, paid DLC, and much more that evolved BL2 into what it is today, and generally, fans like it as it is now. It's not perfect, but it is wide and varied where it is now, if that makes sense.
@@jcsjapan I don't wana make this a 2 v 3 thing either, I love the whole series. But people do still play/stream/watch Bl3 as well, 5 years after release.. The forever Bl2 crowd always acts like Bl3 was a failure and its just not true.
@@pacthe6376 I didn't say BL3 was a failure. Just simply pointing out that most BL fans gravitate towards BL2 at the end of the day. It has the best Sanctuary (At least in my opinion), more stuff to do, and a healthier drop rate for Legendaries. Sure, BL3 has the smoother gameplay, better mechanics, and excellent skill trees, but the characters were not nearly as fleshed out at BL2, killing Maya was a major mistake, Ava is about as unlikable as a character can get, the Calypso twins were AWFUL (In a bad way, from a storytelling perspective), and Legendaries dropped all of the time and were often not very good, making them lose their prestige.
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that the fluidity of gameplay in BL3 is why hardcore fans stay there, but there is also a huge chunk of fans that gravitate towards BL2 for all the reasons BL3 drops the ball. I hope that makes sense. Not knocking BL3. Just being real.
Oh no! THE SACRALIDGE!! How dare you! HA! Great vid. All true.
Bl3 felt like off, I agree the gameplay and build diversity was amazing, but at the same time I feel like the game throws an annoying amount of legendaries at you. Like I feel like I didn’t earn the weapons I used. Also I love the concept of slag, I get it’s annoying you have to use it once you reach uvhm but I don’t mind considering how easy it is to incorporate in almost any build. The debuff aspect of slag is awesome and I feel they should reintroduce it, but not make it necessary, just an option to kill faster if you choose to use it. I really just wish they didn’t lose the charm of the franchise but I feel like once the games left pandora it started to feel off. I’m also not a huge fan of the new writing, shit use to be crass but at least funny. Now the jokes are all stinkers.
Yea, I agree that the legendary drop rate in BL3 is way too high. And again, I had no problem with slag until it started becoming mandatory, I love the it's piss grenade in BL3 (+25% damage against enemies.) And while I do agree that the writing is a little worse, the 15th time I'm playing, I'm just save-quit skipping half the dialog anyway.
@@ConstantCanadian I have to give the game another shot because I wasn’t feeling it so I fell off after the main story. But I hear the dlc and end game is pretty good and as a fan of 2’s end game im gonna attempt to make it there in 3. Im just hoping 4 has better writing cause it sucks we went from my favorite villain to probably my least favorite villains in video games. Like the calypso twins made me feel like an idiot for being invested in the story up to that point.
@@6cmcnc6 yea, the writing in Borderlands 3 is certainly rough, but after you finish the story that's when the ACTUAL game begins, and you start having fun
@@ConstantCanadian well looks like I’m at the perfect point
I recently installed a BL2 scaling mod and loot with level mod for BL3. Those in tandem with dialog skip make it much more enjoyable to replay.
I must be a masochist. I've played through the story multiple times with each Vault Hunter.
@@devaughnsalter6264 so have I, but it gets old after a while.
Don't forget that most Pearlesent Weapon we're pretty useless.
@@keynanmartinez yea, so unfortunate
@@ConstantCanadian it was a huge let down
One more thing that is not mentioned is the weapon parts when farming for guns. It varies based on guns but:
- The game has a high chance NOT to give you an accessory. This is important for guns like Sand hawk which requires the Flying prefix or shotguns which require the extra 2 pellets for example.
- If the gun can spawn with both elemental and non-elemental, the game has a high chance NOT to give you an element. Elemental matching is obviously important in the end game.
This is why farming for a good Sand Hawk can take a lot of patience. It is even worse for guns that are not quest reward and with a low drop rate from dedicated source. Why punish the player?
A lot of these complaints can be summarized with "BL2 walked so BL3 could run."
Will hard agree that Digi Peak and Slag are terrible.
I use to hate slag and now I can’t live without it, I wish they’d bring it to 3 but I can see why they don’t. Still I wish there was another debuff similar to it.
@@6cmcnc6 it's so uninteresting tho? I know it's an old comparison, but cryo in TPS is much more engaging than just "enemy takes +200% damage now"
@@archduke0000 I mean cryo is still in the game, why not have more options?
@@6cmcnc6 they overlap and one is just a flat damage increase. If we made 10 new elements that were functionally identical to Slag but were different colors it'd increase options but not in a good way.
Enemies shouldn't be designed to have so much HP that it's borderline required to hit them with a status effect that triples their damage taken. Granted some of that is the result of damage reduction from OP levels.
@@archduke0000 but I’m not saying we need 10 types of slag, just one would be nice for players who like the debuff, and the guys that don’t like it don’t have to use it.
Technically TVHM and UVHM are end game for all bl games so the one playthrough on bl3 is wrong though it is easier to get to lvl 72 (max lvl) just to deal a significant amount of damage on mayhem you need to do TVHM and UVHM
Imagine if instead of one character getting companions, you could have them on any character by going out and capturing them In the universe. And they had their own separate skill tree
Not gonna lie, that sounds Hella fun
Same thing with melee, separate skill tree, same for all characters, anybody who lay through with any character can be a melee only challenge, no sacrificing any skills to try a melee build, just pure freedom. Makes no sense not to do it this way
It’d be a way to increase the grind cuz they could make the drops rare with different unique parts to farm for same as guns, and just decrease the impossibility of finding everything else
When you put it all like that, it makes 3 seem a lot better. Most of these sere resolved and some of the resolutions, such as build diversity, became major selling points of the game
I’m stuck on OP 5 and am getting so tired and burnt out. I’ve been using my lv 80 sand hawk as maya and just casually upgrading my bee shield each op level. I wanna give up 🥵
That's usually about the point I got to before I gave up. It would be so bad if you were given more than 1 life to do it, but 95% of the time, I would die to DOT damage to the last enemy before the final boss.
as much as i and im sure many others enjoy the bl2 weapon part system, the fact that a single part can make an otherwise great weapon feel completely unusable like the grip or prefex or sometimes even both is a real turnoff. nothings worse than seeing an on level dpuh drop but with a dahl grip or seeing the elusive norfleet drop but its slag element, the re-rolling feature of bl3 would be killer in every other bordlerands game too in order to fix the grips or prefixes of a gun you already put a lot of time into obtaining.
I’ll probably give 4 a shot when it’s out but I’m pretty much just done with this community. Your comments section is more than enough proof that it’s probably the best decision anyone can make. I thought there couldn’t be a worse community than souls fans or PvP fans but man borderlands sure proved me wrong. I love the games but its fans are something else.
@nathanhendrickson790 it really is a shame to see the community as absolutely divided like this. Luckily it's single player and you're not required to interact with the community if you don't want
@@ConstantCanadian trust me it’s probably the best decision I’ve ever made in fact this was the first borderlands video I ever watched in week. But if a community sinks lower than souls fans ever could I take that as a sign it’s time to go 😂. I remember when this community was actually fun to be in now it’s just an every day fight between mom and dad while I’m just tuning it out with music.
Bl2's UVHM was pretty bad, but I'd still take it over whatever Mayhem 2.0 is.
UVHM is always rough for the first playthrough, but once you figure out what you NEED to do to deal decent damage, it's not as bad. I truly don't know what Gearbox was thinking with Mayhem 2.0, freaking disaster
I finished borderlands 2 played a bit of 1 and the pre sequel how is borderlands 3
I personally like borderlands 3 more than the rest of the games, but it's important to go into it not expecting another Borderlands 2
@@ConstantCanadian guess I'll try 3 after I finish what I have to do in destiny
@@adamwaggeh2216 Better gameplay, worse story, lots of content...but easier than ever to get op too quickly. The game spits legendaries at you faaaaaaaar too much so it's never once a challenge.
BL2 is considered the GOAT for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the story and characters. BL2's writing is the best of the whole bunch, with The Pre-Sequel being a close second. BL1 got things started, but it just feels incredibly lacking now with BL2 and BL3 being out. BL3 in regards to gameplay is the best, without question, but the story is a drag. The twins are just annoying in all the wrong ways, and it is unfortunate that Handsome Jack set the bar so high for an interesting villain in BL2. I also felt like the quests in BL3 weren't any better than BL2, but frankly, they felt worse because the main story was lacking, which means the side stories were often lacking as well.
BL3 is definitely still worth playing. It doesn't have the longevity of BL2, but there is a ton of content, loads of legendaries, and the gameplay is the best it has ever been in BL3. I still find myself going back to BL2 way more now, but I do jump on BL3 every so often for the excellent gameplay.
Another amazing change they could do is just allowing element swapping on guns. Like obviously not make it so that every element can be chosen on every gun but give us limited options to choose from on different guns that we can swap out on the fly instead of impossibly long farms trying to get the same shit in every element. Fucking figure it out I say
That's what they did with BL3's Maliwan, but the implementation was pretty bad. Hopefully it's better in the next game
@@ConstantCanadian sorta yea but not I mean like swapping it out in your inventory, not on the fly like that but I suppose it was a nice addition what bl3 did
You forget some type of weapons , element and manufacture and even vault hunter dont scale at end game
rip gaige
“To me, it’s just dumb that in order to unlock the hardest difficulties, you have to complete some of the hardest content in the game.”
Really? Cuz the way you put it, it makes perfect sense that to unlock the next hardest difficulty, you have to complete the previously hardest challenge. 😂
That’s clear linear progression.
In order to unlock hardest parts of any game, you usually have to process through progressively harder challenges.
Boss 10 is the hardest? Gotta beat boss 9 to get there. Boss 9 is harder than boss 8, gotta beat boss 9 to get to it. Etc. Boss 1 is the easiest, opening the path to boss 2.
I disagree about slag. It's my favorite superelement and I miss slag MUCH in BL3
Good video 👍
What do you like about the game though?
Honestly I'm more of a fan of BL3 than I am of 2. However, I'm willing to admit that Borderlands 2 has far better writing then it's successor, and while the skill trees are worse, they actual class mods are better imo. Borderlands 2 also has far more raid bosses than 3, and also has pearlescents and other super rare drops to farm for, which is cool.
Honestly it's not the best in terms of gameplay. Story like say sure, it's the best in the series ( it's still assume tbh but jack is great ). Also list is pretty much the same as mine. I love bl2 but could you imagine it without the issues it has
A lot of people have been saying the BL2 made in BL3 engine would be perfect, and they're not wrong...
@@ConstantCanadian that would be the dream. If they also did a rebalance of the game
@@lilpain1997 I don't know, gearbox seems to have a bad reputation for 'balancing' stuff HaHa
@@ConstantCanadiansadly that’s not a game you want especially with the community the way it is.
this whole video feels like a "i hate grinding in a game that's based around grinding"
at the same time, doesn't bl2fix just, as the name implies, fix everything of it? might just be worth playing with that considering the stance you're taking in the video
also might even be better to change the title into "what I consider is wrong with bl2"
to be fair, he does admit that the legendary drop rate in BL3 is very high, but that's just the beginning of this games insane power creep.
@@archduke0000 it's a looter shooter after all, seeing a legendary drop makes the brain feel good right?
For me, Borderlands is a series about grinding loot, not xp and op levels. Grinding loot can be kept interesting by other drops you aren't particularly farming for. Whereas with xp and op levels 90% of the time, it's get 3, farm 1 weapon, repeat. 10+ hours of level grinding is just too much for one game
@@weebman42 "too much of a good thing" is very real
@@ConstantCanadian while i do understand where you're coming from, it still is a game based around grinding for stuff (even if it's extremely tedious and mind numbing to do bad maw runs for xp). i'd still recommend bl2fix as it really just improves it so much as t's probably too late for 2k to fix or add any QoL changes
Most of these points are just complaining about grinding or just a Skill issue. All of this is fixed if you play on pc with qol of life mods and you can skip the whole first playthrough with the FFS dlc
My biggest gripe on vanilla are things like the orphan maker, sand hawk and pimpernel only being able to be obtained once without read only farming
You know what, I'll give you the last point there, I completely forgot about the lvl 30 skip in BL2, so that definitely solves that issue. But if you need to install mods to 'fix' a game, you can't then turn around and pretend that same game is perfection.
@@ConstantCanadian I mean true but 90% of the active borderlands 2 community today is on pc and plays with mods and to set it up it takes 15m lol
And if you don’t have pc? What then. Go on say “deal with it” I freaking dare you, you pinecone
Played BL3 first and disliked the game play of BL2 upon playing it. Respect to all BL players, but we all have different opinions. Looking forward to BL4😉
first -> i prefer Borderlands 3, why ? 2 different reasons -> 1 - Borderlands 3 gives me these fantastic weapons and so fuckin much of them. In BL2 it feels like the game don´t wont to show me the "Real Stuff". For other people is the way BL3 gives you these tons of loot a negativ point but not for me: these loot is the identity of this game. I also played Wonderlands and liked it but , besides the blood/gore i missed, i got no NOOOO really amazing Legendary Weapon. I got a few ones in my bag but they are not very special , they just puttin out a bit more DMG but WHO THE FUCK are the crazy effects. In BL 3 i got over 400 different Legendarys in my chest and its gettin more.
the 2 reason againts BL2 is the importent one - the traveling system !!!!!! its absoluty dogshit !!!! i`m running over the same maps again and again and kills the same enemy again and again. sometimes i really want to play BL 2 , espacially because its a harder and sometimes the my partner and i really gettin our asses kicked -> these f**** Helicopters for example. But we like this. Hard work for hard loot ;) but sometimes i look at the map and the mission - see the enemys far away and 1 sec later -> ALT F4.
BL3 is not perfect in the traveling , in my opionen i dont need these open parts where i can drive around -> these gives me nothing, But BL 3 did it so much better than 2
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Bl2 is so overrated 3 is slightly better
I agree so far, except for Digistruct Peak. The repetitiveness is obviously stupid, but the course itself and the subsequent OP are still the best endgame despite the weakness.