Glad I stumbled on this. Needed a refresher, it's been 10 years since I built my 1156/i3, recently went to see how far I could update it. I needed a quick refresher on which Lynnfield Cores were from which family, and this video was perfect! Thank you!
00:06 back on that day, this motherboard was such a huge deal! Amazing how some LGA 775 and most LGA 1156 motherboard were well constructed like this one, nowadays barely there is over than a PCi-e and x1 slot, usually for Wi-Fi and works for 2 through 4 years, instead of a decade and half like that!
Very helpful! You earned a new subscriber! I have a Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 with a Xeon X3450 running at 4GHZ. Runs like charm, but I plan to upgrade it to a X3470 in the near future. I just wanted to share this :p Have a nice day!
Thanks. You are welcome! Not sure you will notice any meaningful difference between your X3450 and X3470. The latter has a bit faster L3 cache (due to higher NB fequency), so it will provide 3 to 5% higher framerates. But the price for X3470 is not too high, so it might be a worthwhile upgarde.
at 5:13 , its not true, hyper threading or SMT can bring *up to* 2x performance uplift in many games also depending on your core configuration, but im talking about 4c/4t vs 4c/8t in this case.
I've never seen such a big improvement provided by doubling threads. The best result is +50% in some very rare cases, but usually it is about 25%. Doubling the amount of cores may indeed double CPU gaming performance, but not threads.
@@starstreamgamer3704 well from my own testing its pretty close to 2x in some cases, here is the video i made quite a while ago: ruclips.net/video/M7mQSN-PFJ0/видео.html Notice cyberpunk, total war troy and shadow of the tomb raider had the biggest gains. Also if you look at gamers nexus coverage ruclips.net/video/j9HV9V5nzOc/видео.html In newer games like division 2, sottr, rdr2, three kingdoms hyper threading gains range in 40-70% area. So anyways as i said it depends how many cores you have and how badly your game is starved for cpu/thread count. But its safe to say that in certain conditions hyper threading can add way more than 25% or even 50% of performance improvement.
this 25% is used to be in 2014-2015 era games and 3d rendering programs, but these days games are significantly more multithreaded and scales much better with total amount of threads, its a great video dont get me wrong, i just wanted to point this out :)
This motherboard is UBIQUITOUS in american schools, businesses, libraries and more. Videos like these really help as they come into the after market at low prices
Thanks, well explained, the x3440 does perform much better than i5 750/760 because of HT but why bothering when you could buy the x3470 for a small difference.
You are welcome. Yes, at the moment I released this video X3470 was just a bit more expensive than X3440. But prices may change, at some point X3470 was like three times more expensive than X3440. So it's up to you to decide whether this difference worth it or not.
@@JM-Snacking Well, the X3470 is for LGA1156, that motherboard should support the Xeon processors, for some reason Asus page doesn't list these processors as compatible, but you can find videos in youtube of people using them.
I don't know what you didn't like about the X3450... This processor works very well for me ! Of course , I overclocked it to 3600 Mhz , there is no point in overclocking it anymore , since only the temperature is growing , not the performance ! RAM that overclocked to 2000 Mhz ! For this processor, the GTX 1660-S graphics card is weak and the RTX 2060-S graphics card is too powerful for this processor!
@@ft2225 Well, this one looks like a budget board - small amount of power phases, no heatsinks. I would not recommend to overclock your CPU using this board. Actually you can raise it's core frequency up to 3 GHz, but anything higher may damage it. If you install a heatsink or a small fan right over the VRM, than you could go a bit higher. I would recommend you to focus on memory and NB overclock. Try to raise BCLK frequency, while maintaining the core frequency around 3,0 GHz. It will improve the performance level of your system.
I totally agree. In 2023 LGA1156 CPUs are old enough to consider an upgrade, even for light workloads. 12100f, for example, is much much faster. If you want to go used, Ryzen 1600/2600 is a decent upgrade option.
Of course. But not with maxxed out graphics. You will need to reduce CPU intensive settings (population density, population variety, distance scaling) to hit 60 fps. RX 580 is powerful enough to provide 1080p/60 fps in this game at "Very High" settings (or 1440p/60 fps "High").
Technically i7 875K is better, since it has unlocked multiplier. But in fact it has no real advantages over i7 870 or X3470, as all Lynnfield CPUs can be easily overclocked via BCLK.
They are very similar in terms of raw CPU performance and overclocking capabilities. But Xeon supports ECC REG memory and up to 32 GB of DDR3, while i7 has integrated graphics (which you will be able to use only if you are the owner of H55 MoBo) and supports only 16 GB of DDR3.
i have i7 880 and x3480 for my 1156. I still remember i buy that i7 880 after world cup 2010 around $569 or $565 (i forgot) and for the x3480 i buy around $598. The last series and the high series from Intel what i've got until now :)
Who knew 8 threads will become so relevant nowadays. Thanks to Hyperthreading and a great overclocking potential, LGA1156 users can still comfortably use their PCs. And not only for office apps, but even for modern gaming and simple video editing.
Thanks I have the same cpu i5 760 really need a upgrade PC can't even run Minecraft on max or med settings only csgo with smoth fpsor something like that
You are welcome. But I am not sure 4 additional threads of Xeon or i7 will provide any performance improvement for Minecraft. As far as I know, this game mostly relies on 2 cores. So you need a CPU with a couple of powerful cores to play this game at "High" settings and with high framerate.
Hi! Even i7 860 will be a big step up in comparison with i5 650. If you're going to overclock a CPU, it doesn't matter which one you chose i7 860, 870 or 880 - the are all equal. If not then 880 will be by 5-8% faster than 860 and by 3-5% faster than 870 at best. I'd choose 860 and overclock it, at least a little bit.
It depends on what resolution are you going to use. If you are aming at 1080p/60Hz/High, then GTX 1660 Super/Ti is a perfect choice. Some pooply optimized games (like latest Far Cry and Star Wars) will be bottlenecked by X3470, but in general you should be fine. For 1440p/60Hz/High RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 is the way to go. All these recommendations are relevant only if you overclocked your CPU/RAM, otherwise RX 580/GTX 1650 Super is all you need for 1080p.
Hi! No, not at all. You can use both types - ECC or non-ECC. Just make sure that all the memory modules you use are the same type, as it is not possible to combine these two types at once.
Hi. The GPU model does not really matter. You can use any of them, even integrated graphics. I had a 600W PSU at that time, so no, there was no problem with it. But even with 500W PSU you should be OK, at least with some mid-range GPU model, like GTX 1660 or RX 580.
As far as I know even H57 MoBos support overclocking, for example, ASUS P7H57D-V EVO. So Q57 should support it too. But I am not sure H57/Q57 support Xeons.
Snowman MT-6 is a good choice, though it is not massive enough to provide sufficient cooling for X3470 @4GHz, but @3,6-3,8GHz it should be fine. If you want to reach 4GHz, you'd better choose some massive cooler with 5 or even 6 copper heat pipes.
Not sure. Taking into account the fact that i3-550 was the base CPU in this PC, even if internal motherboard has all the necessary functionality for overclocking, I doubt it has a decent VRM to perform a serious overclocking of X3440.
What do you think about i5-660 paired with gtx 1050 ti gaming x 4 gb? And I would like to upgrade to i7 880 or x3440 witch one should i get? My motherboard is gigabyte usb3L rev 2.0. Thanks.
Yes I have the exact same problem. I currently have an I3-550 Clarkdale and I'm planning to upgrade. You convinced me I should go for Xeon X3440 but my question is, will a 240w PSU be able to handle it? I have a low profile GT730 and 12gb of ram, plus I have no options to upgrade my PSU since tfx size is not available here. Also my mobo is a stock Lenovo OEM ih57m v1.1 mobo. can it support the xeon? thanks
Hi! Overclocked X3440 can consume about 120-150 W. But if you are not going to overclock it, 240 W PS might be enough. But you do not really need to overclock it anyway, as stock X3440 will still be bottlenecked by GT 730. Not sure about you MoBo. Seems like this is a very rare model.
@@starstreamgamer3704 it is an oem by lenovo that comes stock with their thinkcentre units. Same problem with PSU because it is propietary. If only i could find a cheap enough low profile gtx 750ti or gt 1030 out here, then i wont have bottlenecking problems I think. Hahaha
You'd better send Lenovo a question, whether this MoBo supports Xeons. If not, you can purchase i5-750, which is quite cheap and still significantly faster CPU than your i3-550. But many of H57 boards support Xeons (officially or unofficially), so chances are your MoBo support them too.
Well, it depends on what are you going to use it for. Web browsing? Old or new games? Productivity applications? Etc. For modern games 4 core/4 thread CPUs are too slow. You need at least 8 thread (or 6 core) CPU to play them without any major problems. Same goes to modern productivity applications - 4 additional threads (or 2 additional cores) may accelerate video/photo rendering up to 50%.
@@leftlord Many game engines can use hyperthreading quite effectively. Disrupt, Decima, AnvilNext 2.0, Foundation etc. Watch my video about Hyperthreading if you want to know more: ruclips.net/video/fRTs1Fa0M9k/видео.html
I'm planning to get the x3470 for my Acer OEM motherboard but I can't find anything online to find out if it works. Do Xeons work on OEM prebuilt boards? I don't have plans for OC because I don't think my mobo has the ability to do that.
I'm not sure. It is almost impossible to find any information about CPU compatibility for OEM boards. I'd recommend you to ask Acer themselves. Maybe they will give you the exact model name of this board or even CPU compatibility list. But the chances are that X3470 is compatible with this board. Majority of LGA1156 are compatible with Xeons, although many devs simply do not mention Xeons in their CPU support lists. As concerns OC, I wouldn't recommend to perfrom it on an OEM board - it is most likely has a poor VRM quality.
Hello, I have an X3470 on an Asrock P55 Pro. I coupled it with an RX 570. I've yet overclocked it by much, how far do you think I can overclock it? And there is an EZ OC feature, should I use it or manually overclock myself? By the way, great video, it was really informative 😄😄
Also, I'm using an enermax ets-n30r-he cooler, I got it recently since the older deepcool gamma archer didn't handle the cooling well. I've also watched your video on overclocking the cpu, but having a reference would be nice.. thank you 😬
Hi! Thank you! Asrock P55 Pro is a decent motherboard, so you can try to achieve 3,8 GHz without any problem, taking into account the fact that you have a decently ventilated case. The only problem is your CPU cooler. It's not bad, but it has only 3 heat pipes. So you probably won't be able to overclock your CPU higher than 3,6 GHz without raising it's temperature higher than 73 °C. But you can still try to achieve 3,7 GHz and even 3,8 GHz. Who knows, maybe you won the silicon lottery and your CPU sample is good enough to work at 3,8 GHz while keeping low voltage (1,24-1,25 V). EZ OC setting is a feature which helps to overclock your CPU automatically. You can try this setting. But in this case you may need to manually decrease the CPU voltage a little bit (to maintain low CPU temperature), if you want to overclock it higher than 3,6 GHz.
For modern games you need at least 8 threads, otherwise your gaming experience will be laggy and uneven. So I'd recommend to choose X3440 (or better) and overclock it, at least, a little bit.
X3470 is a little bit faster than X3440 due to higher NB frequency. If you are going to overclock your CPU, then the difference between these CPUs will be small. For now X3440 costs around $15 while X3470 costs $35. I personally do not think '70 worth extra $20. I'd better invest them in a higher quality GPU (or RAM).
@@starstreamgamer3704 okay so I just found out that my motherboard isn’t compatible with Xeon. My options are the i7 870 and 860. But the 870 is a tile out of my budget. Would the 860 still be good?
It will not be an improvement. These are all basically the same CPUs - same architecture, same amount of cores/threads. The only difference is base core clock frequency. And of course the fact that i7 includes integrated graphics. If you are not going (not able) to overclock you CPU, they you will get like 2-3% (5-6%) performance improvement by replacing i7 860 with X3470 (X3480). I do not think such an improvement is worth the bother.
Hi i have a motherboard p7h55-m lx with Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 3.07GHz and i want to upgrade it,which cpu you can recommended for it for maximum performance.Thank you And also with the graphics cards which is the best for good performance special on this configuration. Very helpful video
I think the p7h55-m LX is unable to overclock a cpu. I have p7h55-m pro, that is capable of OC with the same cpu that you have, just bought a x3470 and im waiting for it to arrive. I've done great business and just bought a gtx 1060 6gb very cheap, and i'll use it on that system.
@@LuisSilva-du5zu Thanks for the answer,no i don't wanna overclock a cpu just to replace with the better one as is possible for good performance. And i don't know which one is the best
@@jordanivanov2988 Well, if your MoBo doesn't support overclocking (or you just do not want to perform overclock), I'd recommend you to consider X3470. But I am not sure P7H55-M LX supports X3470. It might work fine with this CPU, but who knows. So if you do not want to find it out for yourself, aim for i7-870. I don't recommend to consider X3480 or i7-880 as they both are way too expensive. X3470 (or i7-870) is a much better CPU than i3-540. Despite a bit lower base core frequency (2,93 GHz vs 3,07 GHz), it has twice as much cores and twice as much threads, which results in much better performance. But if you have an opportunity to overclock a CPU, I'd strongly recommend you to do it. Even if you have a low quality MoBo and a small CPU cooler, you can still overclock RAM and Northbridge. This will make your PC run significantly faster.
Between i7 870 and X3460 which one is better for gaming? I searched on google for comparison between those two cpus and it stated that the xeon cpu is better for gaming, workstation and desktop.
They are pretty much identical. X3470 is the copy of i7 870. The only difference is that i7 870 officially supports only 16GB of RAM. While X3460 differs from X3470 just in base core clock frequency (2,8 vs 2,93 GHz). If you do not need more than 16GB of RAM and you are going to overclock a CPU, than choose the one which is cheaper.
Yes, you can. It does support all the Xeon models according to the official informantion, provided by the MoBo manufacturer: www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel/DP55WB.html
It means that a x3470 is MUCH better than a i5? I've got the x3470 and the same motherboard as you! the same model, but when I launched it with the xeon, nothing happened... I think it's the BIOS, I need to update it, so I ordered a i5... What do you think, It would be helpful, thank you!
Yes, X3470 has 8 threads, while i5 750 (or 760) has only 4 threads. Majority of modern games and modern applications can effectively use hyperthreading, so X3470 will be faster than i5. 4 additional threads may provide up to 50% better performance (gaming framerates usually increase by 20-30%). You can use any compatible CPU to update BIOS - i3, i5 or i7.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you man! I saw the video about the overclocking, and because I have the same cpu and motherboard, I can just put the settings that you put in the video)
You are welcome. But take a note than all CPUs are a bit different (due to silicon lottery). Yours might be a bit better or a bit worse. Of course you can try my settings and they will probably be OK for your system. But in case you get any errors, just try decrease BCLK a little bit.
Hi bro, a little question, between an i7 870 and a xeon 3440 which one do you recommend the most, taking into account that I would not want to overclock it
Hi. 870 is a bit faster due to higher stock core frequency and higher stock NB frequency. I'd definitely recommend 870 if the price for both of these models would be the same. But 870 is usually 3 times more expensive. So it's up to you to decide. X3470 and X3460 are good alternatives in my opinion. X3470 is as fast as 870 but less expensive.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Thank you very much friend, now I am very determined and confident of the processor that I am thinking of buying, thank you bro and for certain good video
So the 860 I picked up for $40 in the mini gaming pc I built was very worth it. Proforms well with GeForce GTX 970 amd 16gb ram. Flawless running just die already and fortnite. No overclocking.
Hi! What motherboard do you have? You may need to update it's BIOS first. Continuous beep may mean that your MoBo either do not support X3430 or the CPU itself is faulty.
Hi! This board has a relatively poor VRM quality, so I wouldn't recommend to overuse overclocking. 3,2-3,4 GHz is the maximum safe frequency for this board (depending on the CPU voltage value, which shouldn't be higher than 1,2 V). Intel stock cooler will also limit the ability to overclock your CPU. So, yes, 3,4 GHz is the maximum frequency you can try to achieve. But you can overclock your memory without any problems. Even if you OC only memory and BCLK (leaving base CPU frequency on the same level), you will still get a decent performance improvement.
Well, it will partly depend on a certain CPU quality itself. But the main thing is the quality of a VRM of your MoBo. DH55PJ has a poor quality VRM and no heatsinks. But taking into account the fact than i3-530 has only two cores, even with such a MoBo like DH55PJ can achieve a decent result. I think 3,5 GHz is achievable in your case. Just try not to exceed 1,25V (CPU voltage). Ideally you should install addtional small cooler over a VRM space (80-90mm should be enough).
I'd recommend to consider a CPU with at least 8 threads, if you are going to play modern AAA games as they are very demanding. For your current board I'd buy X3440 or i7 860. If you are going to change the whole platform, I'd suggest to choose LGA 2011, LGA 2011-3 or AM4. These platforms can offer 6- and even 8-core CPUs. While LGA 1155 or LGA 1150 can offer 4 cores and 8 threads at best (i7 4770(K) and i7 2600(K) respectively). I'd say B450 + used Ryzen 1600 is a good choice as well as X79 + Xeon E5-1650(v2) or X99 + Xeon E5-2620v3. They all offer 6 cores and 12 threads, which is a minimum requirement for today's games.
Starstream Gamer it’s ok i’m not into gaming, i’m more into programming and workstation. Thank you so much for your kind and responsiveness you just save me a lot
Do you think i should upgrade from an i7 870 to a intel pentium g4560 ? I have a good motherboard for the g4560 but i dont know if its worth upgrading.
It's hard to say. G4560 is based on a much newer architecture, but it has only 2 cores / 4 threads. I do not think it will be faster. Some games need at least 4 cores / 8 threads to function properly. So I would not call it an upgrade. In addition LGA 1151 platform do not offer any great upgrade possibilities. All i5 6X00/7X00 are 4 thread CPUs. So if you are not planning to upgrade to i7 6700(K) / 7700(K) or perform the "coffee mode", I wouldn't recommend to switch to 1151. If you want to get a significant performance improvement over i7 870, I would suggest to consider LGA 2011-3 or AM4 platforms, starting with Xeon E5-2620v3 (turbo unlocked) and Ryzen 3 3100 respectively. LGA 1151v2 platform offer a decent upgrade path as well.
You mean 6700? No, it will not bottleneck 1660 S. It's all core boost is 3,7 GHz. So 6700 will be ~30-40% faster than OCed 870 (@4 GHz). Stock 6700K (which all core boost is 4 GHz) is just 5% faster than 6700.
Hello, if you can help me, I will be very happy, I have an i5 750 @4.0ghz stable (idk if I can push it more, and a msi p55-gd55 and a ok tower coolet) where I live, Romania, there are just one man that sells x3440 for 13€, one man that sells x3450 for 14€, and one man that sells x3470 for 50$, I think that my mobo is a good overclocker, and all i7's are like 40-55$, should I go for x3440 if I can do...like 3.7...4.0? Thanks
Unlike 750, X3440 supports HT, which will increase framerate in majority of modern games by ~25%, but what's more important it will also increase 1% low and 0,1% low values, thus drastically improving frametime (by ~50%). If your MoBo handles i5 750 clocked at 4 GHz well enough, then it will be a good choice for X3440 too. Whether you will be able to overclock X3440 to 4 GHz or not mostly depends on the quality of the certain chip. Some of them can operate at this frequency at 1,25 V while others need 1,35 V. I do not think it is worth buying X3470 for $50. It is faster than X3440, but not by much. Just take a note that due to the presence of HT X3440 is hotter than 750 by ~5-7 °C and consumes about 10% more power.
@@starstreamgamer3704 I think that my mobo can do higher than 4.0ghz on that i5, also xeons have lower temps than i7's due to no integrated graphics, I am right? I found today a x3470 for 36€ (but still 3x more than x3440) I think I will try my luck and try to repaste the northbridge and go with x3440 Also: it will be a difference betwen x3440, x3450 and x3470 when they are clocked let's say to 3.8 4.0?
Integrated GPU can increase temps only if you use it. In idle mode it consumes negligible amount of power. At the same clock frequency X3460/3470/3480 will be about 2-4% faster than X3440/3450 due to higher NB clock (the speed of their L3 caches is higher as a result). €36 is still too expensive for X3470 in my opinion. I purchased mine a year and a half ago for ~€15 on Aliexpress, while X3440 was just ~€8 cheaper. But paying €23 more is not worth it (IMHO).
@@starstreamgamer3704 thanks, one more question (sorry) should I take x3440 (cuz it's more popular) or x3450? The dif in price is 2€ Edit: they are the same price cuz shipping on x3450 is cheaper
The only difference between X3440 and X3450 is base core clock frequency. X3440 max multiplier is 19 (19x133=2,53 GHz), while X3450 max multiplier is 20 (20x133=2,66GHz). If your MoBo can reach at least 200 MHz BCLK frequency, then there no sence in paying more for X3450, if not, then X3450 will provide slighly better performance. If the price is the same, then I would choose X3450, just in case.
im using x3470 cpu bulldozer H55 mother board 2x4gb ram (kingston 1600hz) gt 710 (1gb) inno 3d its keep crashing when i open up some website or maybe multitab(4-5tab). idk what is the problem , im already update my driver, any solutions?
What about games or any other apps? Does it crash there too? Looks like there is a problem with memory, as web browsers load RAM heavily. Have you overclocked your RAM? If yes, then try to test it for stability with a help of TestMem5. If you are using stock RAM, then test it with a help of MemTest86. It will take several hours to complete one pass, but then you will know for sure if the blame is on RAM or not.
Not sure. That's why I suggested you to test your RAM. Web browser crashes are most likely happening due to RAM problem. But it also might be CPU fault. Did you buy this whole PC? Or just upgraded it? For example, if your RAM worked fine with another CPU, that the problem is most probably in X3470. Have you experienced crashes before you upgraded it? The answer to your question depends on the specific situation.
@@starstreamgamer3704 yea i upgraded it from pentium e 5800, it worked fine with 4gb ram single channel, then i buy another one but the physical size smaller (same speed) still no problem, until i got new motherboard and cpu.
Hi! I've done some searching. According to the information, provided by a few users of P7P55-M model, it does support Xeons. At least with the latest BIOS version - 1101. Here is an example: valid.x86.fr/m37pyy
In fact it is a copy of i7-870. I do not know why Intel added "K" to the name of this CPU. All Lynnfield CPUs have unlocked multiplier. So the only difference between all i7s is the base clock frequency.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Are you sure about the unlocked multiplier? I have an i7 870 and it's locked on 22 (the intel turbo boost technology can go up to 27 on one core). There is the i5 665k and the i7 875k and on their original packaging shows that they are unlocked. The i7 870, for example, don't state anything like that.
Well, you can change the i7-870 miltiplier, so it is unlocked. But there is absolutely no sense in increasing it. You can acheive much better results by increasing BCLK. You will probably need to decrease the multiplier by a few steps in this case. The base BCLK value is 133 MHz. If you increase it to 180 MHz (which is a viable for majority of P55 and even some H55 MoBos), then CPU frequency will increase to 3,96 GHz (180x22). I personally was able to increase BCLK frequency to 218 MHz, so I had to decrease the multiplier down to 18.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Fair enough. I think the i7 875k max multiplier is x62. I'm not sure why it's called unlocked. If I know good, intel called this kind of processors extreme edition before. That is seems more correct. The x18 looks good, the QPI link use the same multiplier. Anyway, I'll go for a xeon x3480 if I can find one for a fair price. Just because of the 32GB ram support.
Yeah. I think that the ablity to increase multiplier is the only reason they aded "K". Xeon X3480 max multiplier is 23, while X3460 max multiplier is 21. That is the only difference between these CPUs. Not sure it is worth double the price.
Hi i have a motherboard Asrock P67 Transformer 1156 , with Intel(R) Xeon (TM) 3450 i overclocked my cpu to 3.8 ghz with 1.2 v, when i try to get 4.2 Ghz system is doing bad and going to blue screen, if i change CPU to Xeon 3470 can i take 4.1-4.2 ghz ? . Thank you man
Hi. Nobody can guarantee that you will be able overclock your CPU sample to 4.2 GHz. It just may not be able to work at this frequency. Replacing it with X3470 will not change much. You may win silicon lottery and your X3470 will be able to work at 4,2 GHz with 1.3 V. But majority of these CPUs need at least 1.4 V to function at 4,1-4,2 GHz. I would not recommend you to overclock your CPU to 4,2 GHz. Such high frequency will provide you just about 2-3% better performance in comparison with 4 Ghz, while the increase in CPU temperature will be astounding. Still if you want to reach 4,2 GHz, you need to raise CPU voltage higher than 1,2 V. Try 1,3-1,35-1,4 V. Watch your CPU and MoBo temps. VRM temps will increase a lot as well!
P7P55D-E EVO is significantly more advanced MoBo - it has much more power phases and also heatsinks. According to some users of p7h55-m/v-p7h55e/dp_mb, it does support Xeons.
What do you mean by "the same performance"? At stock clocks X3470 will perfrom exactly the same on any LGA1156 MoBo. But if we are talking about overclocking, then the EVO board will definitely provide better results and thus better performance. Look here: forums.aida64.com/topic/4873-asus-p7h55-m-aux-temperature/ As you can see, this guy has the same MoBo as you and X3470.
@@starstreamgamer3704 i dont want to overclock this cpu bro and thanks for the informations.i have a last question should i update my bios to support x3470 or this dosent mean?? Xddd
Can't say for sure. My MoBo didn't need an update. If you have an opportunity to install X3470 without an update, try it. If not, I'd recommend you to update BIOS, just in case.
Hi~!!! Nice to meet U~ I'm Korean. I can speak English a little. I have CPU : Q3M5 (I7-880 es OEM) M/B : ASUS P7P55D-E PRO (SATA3, USB3.0) RAM : CORSAIR DDR3 8G PC3-12800 CL9 VENGEANCE LP WHITE 16Gb (4Gb x 4) COOLLIING : Corsair Hydro Series H115i SSD : SAMSUNG 850 Pro 512GB P/W : Micronics Classic II 700W +12V Single Rail 85+ If I use overclock 4.0~4.2 over more, do U know limite VGA? Can I use 1080ti??? (?_?) Congratulate to Open your RUclips!!! I do click Good & Reading in first!!!
Hello! Thank you for your kind words. 1. You have one of the best motherboards for 1156 socket. Yes, you can overclock your i7-880 to 4,0 and maybe even to 4,1 GHz. But the frequency will depend a lot on a specific CPU. Some of them can easily overlclock to 4,1 GHz, while some others - can not. You have a great CPU cooling system. It will help to keep the temerature of your CPU under control. But there is another problem - VRM temperature. If you want to overclock your CPU higher than 3,8 GHz, be prepared that VRM zone will be very very hot. In order to keep it as cool as possible, you'd better install a small 40mm (or 60mm) fan on the heatsink (near CPU). To hit 4,0+ GHz you will need to raise the CPU voltage to 1,36-1,4 V. Making this CPU work at these conditions 24/7 is not a good idea (IMHO). But if you really want to do it, don't forget about additional fan for VRM. Try to find the highest BCLK frequecny first. For your motherboard it will probaly be some value between 210 and 220 MHz. 2. According to official web-site, Asus P7P55D-E Pro has PCIe 2.0 x16, which means that 1080 Ti will be an overkill for your PC. 1070 Ti (or RTX 2060) is the fastest graphics card you should use. To be honest, even disregarding the fact that P7P55D has old PCIe 2.0, i7-880 (even overclocked to 4,2 GHz) is simply too slow for 1080 Ti. This CPU would not allow this GPU to reach it's full potential. Anyway, you can buy 1080 Ti now simply to lay the groundwork for your future PC.
Wooooooooooow!!! Thank u soooo much!!! for your so kind answer!!! Your answers helped me a lot. I look forward to seeing your RUclips continue to grow with more subscribers. Thank U!!! Have a nice day!!!
All Lynnfield CPUs can be overclocked via BCLK. Moreover overclocking via BCLK is more effective, because it is possible to overclock memory controller and RAM this way. So there is no need in unlocked multiplier for LGA1156 platform.
здравствуйте . не запускается rx 5700 xt на lga 1156 .в чем проблема ?после биоса черный экран , gtx 1050 норм работает, моя система asus p7h55m, rx 5700 xt, windows 10 x64, ,блок питания на 750 в, оперативка на 8 гб
hello , should i upgrade my I5 650 to i7 870 for about $30 ???? .(my motherboard is only compatible upto I7 870) my motherboard from intel hp 304bh . my pc is hp 8100 elite CMT , will i get more fps in games and how much????
i7 870 has twice as much cores, twice as much threads and twice as large L3 cache. This will be a massive improvement for games. I think you can expect up to 50% higher framerates.
You should visit the official site of the brand and search for the info about BIOS versions for your MoBo. They should provide all the info about supported CPUs for each version.
If MoBo has 4 DIMM slots, you should be able to install 16 (4x4) GB of RAM. It concerns all motherboards made by Asus, AsRock and Gigabyte paired with any Lynnfield CPU. But I am not sure about the brands you mentioned. You'd better contact with them and ask if it is possible. But if MoBo has only 2 DIMM slots, I am not sure you will be able to use 2x8 GB. 2x4 GB should be no problem though.
Good for you. I purchased mine in 2019 for roughly the same price. Then it's price increased approximately by two times. But that is a typical situation for old Xeon CPUs. Their prices rise and fall spontaneously.
Glad I stumbled on this. Needed a refresher, it's been 10 years since I built my 1156/i3, recently went to see how far I could update it. I needed a quick refresher on which Lynnfield Cores were from which family, and this video was perfect! Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Eu tambem , amigo estou precisando trocar tudo mas meu i5 650 , mas estou ai tentando pelo menos colocar um i7 de 880 uma placa de video melhor .
@@eduardodasilvapereira5027e aí, você fez o upgrade?
00:06 back on that day, this motherboard was such a huge deal!
Amazing how some LGA 775 and most LGA 1156 motherboard were well constructed like this one, nowadays barely there is over than a PCi-e and x1 slot, usually for Wi-Fi and works for 2 through 4 years, instead of a decade and half like that!
Very helpful! You earned a new subscriber!
I have a Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3 with a Xeon X3450 running at 4GHZ. Runs like charm, but I plan to upgrade it to a X3470 in the near future. I just wanted to share this :p
Have a nice day!
Thanks. You are welcome! Not sure you will notice any meaningful difference between your X3450 and X3470. The latter has a bit faster L3 cache (due to higher NB fequency), so it will provide 3 to 5% higher framerates. But the price for X3470 is not too high, so it might be a worthwhile upgarde.
at 5:13 , its not true, hyper threading or SMT can bring *up to* 2x performance uplift in many games also depending on your core configuration, but im talking about 4c/4t vs 4c/8t in this case.
I've never seen such a big improvement provided by doubling threads. The best result is +50% in some very rare cases, but usually it is about 25%.
Doubling the amount of cores may indeed double CPU gaming performance, but not threads.
@@starstreamgamer3704 well from my own testing its pretty close to 2x in some cases, here is the video i made quite a while ago:
ruclips.net/video/M7mQSN-PFJ0/видео.html
Notice cyberpunk, total war troy and shadow of the tomb raider had the biggest gains. Also if you look at gamers nexus coverage
ruclips.net/video/j9HV9V5nzOc/видео.html
In newer games like division 2, sottr, rdr2, three kingdoms hyper threading gains range in 40-70% area. So anyways as i said it depends how many cores you have and how badly your game is starved for cpu/thread count. But its safe to say that in certain conditions hyper threading can add way more than 25% or even 50% of performance improvement.
this 25% is used to be in 2014-2015 era games and 3d rendering programs, but these days games are significantly more multithreaded and scales much better with total amount of threads, its a great video dont get me wrong, i just wanted to point this out :)
This is 100% good info
This motherboard is UBIQUITOUS in american schools, businesses, libraries and more. Videos like these really help as they come into the after market at low prices
Thanks, well explained, the x3440 does perform much better than i5 750/760 because of HT but why bothering when you could buy the x3470 for a small difference.
You are welcome. Yes, at the moment I released this video X3470 was just a bit more expensive than X3440. But prices may change, at some point X3470 was like three times more expensive than X3440. So it's up to you to decide whether this difference worth it or not.
But not support to LGA1156 p7h55-m LE ?
@@JM-Snacking Well, the X3470 is for LGA1156, that motherboard should support the Xeon processors, for some reason Asus page doesn't list these processors as compatible, but you can find videos in youtube of people using them.
@@Mattotk yes i think X3450 is better
I don't know what you didn't like about the X3450... This processor works very well for me ! Of course , I overclocked it to 3600 Mhz , there is no point in overclocking it anymore , since only the temperature is growing , not the performance !
RAM that overclocked to 2000 Mhz ! For this processor, the GTX 1660-S graphics card is weak and the RTX 2060-S graphics card is too powerful for this processor!
Thnx for your efforts, the video is great and I bought a p7p55d -e deluxe because of it 😁
You are welcome! Enjoy your new toy. It is one of the best LGA1156 motherboards. You can now juice your CPU to the max.
@@starstreamgamer3704 I have Gigabyte P55 ud3l & x3450, what do you think ?
@@ft2225 Well, this one looks like a budget board - small amount of power phases, no heatsinks. I would not recommend to overclock your CPU using this board. Actually you can raise it's core frequency up to 3 GHz, but anything higher may damage it. If you install a heatsink or a small fan right over the VRM, than you could go a bit higher.
I would recommend you to focus on memory and NB overclock. Try to raise BCLK frequency, while maintaining the core frequency around 3,0 GHz. It will improve the performance level of your system.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Thanks man 🙏
@@ft2225 You are welcome.
thanks dude, this helped me to decide which cpu to buy
You are welcome!
x3470 is no where to be found on AliExpress :)
since im running my x3440 on 3.80ghz i dont think i can find an upgrade for this socket. time for mobo change i guess
I totally agree. In 2023 LGA1156 CPUs are old enough to consider an upgrade, even for light workloads. 12100f, for example, is much much faster. If you want to go used, Ryzen 1600/2600 is a decent upgrade option.
BioStar H55A+ can do overclock. It has Heatsink
Yes, you are right. But it has only 5 power phases. So do not count on high overclocking capabilities.
Hi. I have DH57DD motherboard does it have the ability to regulate imc voltage??
Hi! Unfortunately, I do not have any experience with this specific board. You can check this yourself. It should be called the same.
🙂 thanks for the educational video
You are welcome!
Anyone here to get more performance after upgrading cpu?
I had a i7 870 and bought a x3440, just to try.
i7 wen father along than Xeon x3440.
Very well done,.... TNX 73 SK
what motherboard i need yo use this cpu i have one x3440
Any LGA 1156 motherboard based on either P55, H55, H57 or Q57 chipset.
Asus P55s were ones of the best models then.
hi,can u upload a video how to overclock my x3450?
Hi. I've already made a detailed video about how to overclock any LGA1156 CPU, including X3450.
Here it is: ruclips.net/video/dm5C9NsfMUU/видео.html
@@starstreamgamer3704 why i don't have those settings in my bios?
I have p7p55d elx with i5 760😁 i bought it 9 years ago still useing it
any suggestions for the best lga 1156 processor i should buy?
Any 8-thread CPU is good. X3440 is the cheapest one for now. X3460 is slightly faster.
Can i play not boosted x3470 with not boosted rx 580 gta 5?
Of course. But not with maxxed out graphics. You will need to reduce CPU intensive settings (population density, population variety, distance scaling) to hit 60 fps. RX 580 is powerful enough to provide 1080p/60 fps in this game at "Very High" settings (or 1440p/60 fps "High").
i7 875k i7 880 that's the best
Hi! Awesome video! I have this motherboard: HP Pro 3130: Intel H57 Express Chipset, i am wondering if this can handle x3470? thanks!
Hi. Thanks. Yes, this MoBo does support X3470.
@@starstreamgamer3704 niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, thank you man i was looking for this answer
me in 2024 watching your video very very nice thank you
i7 875k its not better?
Technically i7 875K is better, since it has unlocked multiplier. But in fact it has no real advantages over i7 870 or X3470, as all Lynnfield CPUs can be easily overclocked via BCLK.
Nice video, thank you.
You are welcome.
Cost to me is irrelevant, I just want to know which CPU performs better with gaming; i7 880 or the Xeon x3480?
They are very similar in terms of raw CPU performance and overclocking capabilities. But Xeon supports ECC REG memory and up to 32 GB of DDR3, while i7 has integrated graphics (which you will be able to use only if you are the owner of H55 MoBo) and supports only 16 GB of DDR3.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Thank you... This is very helpful :)
i have i7 880 and x3480 for my 1156. I still remember i buy that i7 880 after world cup 2010 around $569 or $565 (i forgot) and for the x3480 i buy around $598. The last series and the high series from Intel what i've got until now :)
Who knew 8 threads will become so relevant nowadays. Thanks to Hyperthreading and a great overclocking potential, LGA1156 users can still comfortably use their PCs. And not only for office apps, but even for modern gaming and simple video editing.
Thanks I have the same cpu i5 760 really need a upgrade PC can't even run Minecraft on max or med settings only csgo with smoth fpsor something like that
You are welcome. But I am not sure 4 additional threads of Xeon or i7 will provide any performance improvement for Minecraft. As far as I know, this game mostly relies on 2 cores. So you need a CPU with a couple of powerful cores to play this game at "High" settings and with high framerate.
X3470 will play Minecraft very well
Hello can i ask a question?I have processor i5 650 should i buy i7 870 or i7 880 for upgrading my processor
Hi! Even i7 860 will be a big step up in comparison with i5 650. If you're going to overclock a CPU, it doesn't matter which one you chose i7 860, 870 or 880 - the are all equal. If not then 880 will be by 5-8% faster than 860 and by 3-5% faster than 870 at best. I'd choose 860 and overclock it, at least a little bit.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you!
You're welcome.
an i7 880
Which is best suitable GPU for x3470?
It depends on what resolution are you going to use. If you are aming at 1080p/60Hz/High, then GTX 1660 Super/Ti is a perfect choice. Some pooply optimized games (like latest Far Cry and Star Wars) will be bottlenecked by X3470, but in general you should be fine. For 1440p/60Hz/High RTX 2060 Super or RX 5700 is the way to go.
All these recommendations are relevant only if you overclocked your CPU/RAM, otherwise RX 580/GTX 1650 Super is all you need for 1080p.
i have xeon 3470 , works well..
Hi! is it mandatory to have ecc RAM memory to run xeon processors?
Hi! No, not at all. You can use both types - ECC or non-ECC. Just make sure that all the memory modules you use are the same type, as it is not possible to combine these two types at once.
@@starstreamgamer3704Hello! Thanks for answering and the tip!
You are welcome!
Hithanks for this video! What Gpu did You use and did you struggle with the PSUs limits?
Hi. The GPU model does not really matter. You can use any of them, even integrated graphics.
I had a 600W PSU at that time, so no, there was no problem with it. But even with 500W PSU you should be OK, at least with some mid-range GPU model, like GTX 1660 or RX 580.
Brother,can i overclock x3470 on intel q57 motherboard?
As far as I know even H57 MoBos support overclocking, for example, ASUS P7H57D-V EVO. So Q57 should support it too. But I am not sure H57/Q57 support Xeons.
I have seen many people's comments where they say xeon work good on elite 8100 pc
@@starstreamgamer3704 bro when i would get cpu,i hope i would require u for buying an appropriate cpu cooler.
Snowman MT-6 is a good choice, though it is not massive enough to provide sufficient cooling for X3470 @4GHz, but @3,6-3,8GHz it should be fine.
If you want to reach 4GHz, you'd better choose some massive cooler with 5 or even 6 copper heat pipes.
@@starstreamgamer3704 at my place it is more expensive than x3470 😂 but thnx bro for ur valuable answer ❤️
is it possible to overclock xeon x3440 on hp 8100 compaq elite sff pc?
i cant find any information on this pc
Not sure. Taking into account the fact that i3-550 was the base CPU in this PC, even if internal motherboard has all the necessary functionality for overclocking, I doubt it has a decent VRM to perform a serious overclocking of X3440.
What do you think about i5-660 paired with gtx 1050 ti gaming x 4 gb? And I would like to upgrade to i7 880 or x3440 witch one should i get? My motherboard is gigabyte usb3L rev 2.0. Thanks.
Yes I have the exact same problem. I currently have an I3-550 Clarkdale and I'm planning to upgrade.
You convinced me I should go for Xeon X3440 but my question is, will a 240w PSU be able to handle it?
I have a low profile GT730 and 12gb of ram, plus I have no options to upgrade my PSU since tfx size is not available here.
Also my mobo is a stock Lenovo OEM ih57m v1.1 mobo. can it support the xeon? thanks
Hi! Overclocked X3440 can consume about 120-150 W. But if you are not going to overclock it, 240 W PS might be enough. But you do not really need to overclock it anyway, as stock X3440 will still be bottlenecked by GT 730.
Not sure about you MoBo. Seems like this is a very rare model.
@@starstreamgamer3704 it is an oem by lenovo that comes stock with their thinkcentre units. Same problem with PSU because it is propietary.
If only i could find a cheap enough low profile gtx 750ti or gt 1030 out here, then i wont have bottlenecking problems I think. Hahaha
You'd better send Lenovo a question, whether this MoBo supports Xeons. If not, you can purchase i5-750, which is quite cheap and still significantly faster CPU than your i3-550.
But many of H57 boards support Xeons (officially or unofficially), so chances are your MoBo support them too.
Hey man..i know its been 3 years..but may i ask you? I have the same motherboard as you..did you upgrade the cpu to xeon? And did it work?
@@zephyrus_.8309Yes, it work 😊
I have a Asus P7P55D-E with a i7 870 running at 3.6Ghz with 4x4gb 1600mhz cl9 and 2 HD 5770, runs good, i want to do an upgrade in gpu and cooler
Is there any big difference between x3470 and x3460? Thanks
The only difference between these two CPUs is base clock frequency.
@@starstreamgamer3704 one more question. Is it good if i pair x3460 with rx 470? Will there be any bottleneck?
Well, it will depend on certain games and the quality of graphics settings. But overall X3460+RX470 is pretty balanced config.
I have a p7h55-m LX MoBo with i5 760 3.4ghz OC and I want to Upgrade. Which cpu do you recommend?? Thanks
X3440, X3460 or i7-860.
@@starstreamgamer3704 you think my i5 760 3.4ghz is still good or is it worth upgrading?
Well, it depends on what are you going to use it for. Web browsing? Old or new games? Productivity applications? Etc.
For modern games 4 core/4 thread CPUs are too slow. You need at least 8 thread (or 6 core) CPU to play them without any major problems. Same goes to modern productivity applications - 4 additional threads (or 2 additional cores) may accelerate video/photo rendering up to 50%.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you very much for your help but i dont know if i will notice a major difference between those cpus in modern games
@@leftlord Many game engines can use hyperthreading quite effectively. Disrupt, Decima, AnvilNext 2.0, Foundation etc.
Watch my video about Hyperthreading if you want to know more: ruclips.net/video/fRTs1Fa0M9k/видео.html
Parabéns pela explicação, muito bom o vídeo!
Thank you!
I'm planning to get the x3470 for my Acer OEM motherboard but I can't find anything online to find out if it works. Do Xeons work on OEM prebuilt boards?
I don't have plans for OC because I don't think my mobo has the ability to do that.
I'm not sure. It is almost impossible to find any information about CPU compatibility for OEM boards. I'd recommend you to ask Acer themselves. Maybe they will give you the exact model name of this board or even CPU compatibility list.
But the chances are that X3470 is compatible with this board. Majority of LGA1156 are compatible with Xeons, although many devs simply do not mention Xeons in their CPU support lists.
As concerns OC, I wouldn't recommend to perfrom it on an OEM board - it is most likely has a poor VRM quality.
It works on my acer veriton oem
Get a 875k and they are unlocked multiplier and are very easy to overclock.
All LGA1156 CPUs have an unlocked multiplier. 875K has the highest base frequency among all these CPUs, that is the only difference.
any tutorial out there? i cant find
Hello, I have an X3470 on an Asrock P55 Pro. I coupled it with an RX 570. I've yet overclocked it by much, how far do you think I can overclock it? And there is an EZ OC feature, should I use it or manually overclock myself? By the way, great video, it was really informative 😄😄
Also, I'm using an enermax ets-n30r-he cooler, I got it recently since the older deepcool gamma archer didn't handle the cooling well. I've also watched your video on overclocking the cpu, but having a reference would be nice.. thank you 😬
I also got several fans, 3 intake at the front, 2 exhaust at the top and 1 exhaust at the back
Hi! Thank you!
Asrock P55 Pro is a decent motherboard, so you can try to achieve 3,8 GHz without any problem, taking into account the fact that you have a decently ventilated case.
The only problem is your CPU cooler. It's not bad, but it has only 3 heat pipes. So you probably won't be able to overclock your CPU higher than 3,6 GHz without raising it's temperature higher than 73 °C.
But you can still try to achieve 3,7 GHz and even 3,8 GHz. Who knows, maybe you won the silicon lottery and your CPU sample is good enough to work at 3,8 GHz while keeping low voltage (1,24-1,25 V).
EZ OC setting is a feature which helps to overclock your CPU automatically. You can try this setting. But in this case you may need to manually decrease the CPU voltage a little bit (to maintain low CPU temperature), if you want to overclock it higher than 3,6 GHz.
@@starstreamgamer3704 again, thanks for the replies. I will test this configuration asap
What’s the best 1156 cpu for rx 560
For modern games you need at least 8 threads, otherwise your gaming experience will be laggy and uneven. So I'd recommend to choose X3440 (or better) and overclock it, at least, a little bit.
@@starstreamgamer3704 would a x3470 be better than the x3440 in my case?
Btw I have a 60hz monitor playing at 1024p
X3470 is a little bit faster than X3440 due to higher NB frequency. If you are going to overclock your CPU, then the difference between these CPUs will be small.
For now X3440 costs around $15 while X3470 costs $35. I personally do not think '70 worth extra $20. I'd better invest them in a higher quality GPU (or RAM).
@@starstreamgamer3704 okay so I just found out that my motherboard isn’t compatible with Xeon. My options are the i7 870 and 860. But the 870 is a tile out of my budget. Would the 860 still be good?
Is switching from the i7 860 to the x3470 or x3480 worth it? Will an improvement be noticed in 3d modeling and video rendering jobs?
It will not be an improvement. These are all basically the same CPUs - same architecture, same amount of cores/threads. The only difference is base core clock frequency. And of course the fact that i7 includes integrated graphics.
If you are not going (not able) to overclock you CPU, they you will get like 2-3% (5-6%) performance improvement by replacing i7 860 with X3470 (X3480). I do not think such an improvement is worth the bother.
@@starstreamgamer3704 ok. I'm afraid of it, at least I'll save 50 usd lol... thanks for answering
You are welcome. Mild overclocking is pretty easy to perform and it is perfectly safe (if you have a decent motherboard of course).
Hi i have a motherboard p7h55-m lx with Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 3.07GHz and i want to upgrade it,which cpu you can recommended for it for maximum performance.Thank you
And also with the graphics cards which is the best for good performance special on this configuration. Very helpful video
I think the p7h55-m LX is unable to overclock a cpu. I have p7h55-m pro, that is capable of OC with the same cpu that you have, just bought a x3470 and im waiting for it to arrive. I've done great business and just bought a gtx 1060 6gb very cheap, and i'll use it on that system.
@@LuisSilva-du5zu Thanks for the answer,no i don't wanna overclock a cpu just to replace with the better one as is possible for good performance.
And i don't know which one is the best
@@jordanivanov2988 Well, if your MoBo doesn't support overclocking (or you just do not want to perform overclock), I'd recommend you to consider X3470. But I am not sure P7H55-M LX supports X3470. It might work fine with this CPU, but who knows. So if you do not want to find it out for yourself, aim for i7-870. I don't recommend to consider X3480 or i7-880 as they both are way too expensive.
X3470 (or i7-870) is a much better CPU than i3-540. Despite a bit lower base core frequency (2,93 GHz vs 3,07 GHz), it has twice as much cores and twice as much threads, which results in much better performance.
But if you have an opportunity to overclock a CPU, I'd strongly recommend you to do it. Even if you have a low quality MoBo and a small CPU cooler, you can still overclock RAM and Northbridge. This will make your PC run significantly faster.
Between i7 870 and X3460 which one is better for gaming? I searched on google for comparison between those two cpus and it stated that the xeon cpu is better for gaming, workstation and desktop.
They are pretty much identical. X3470 is the copy of i7 870. The only difference is that i7 870 officially supports only 16GB of RAM. While X3460 differs from X3470 just in base core clock frequency (2,8 vs 2,93 GHz). If you do not need more than 16GB of RAM and you are going to overclock a CPU, than choose the one which is cheaper.
@@starstreamgamer3704 The price difference is just around 1-2$, and the xeon one is cheaper, and yes i would like to oc the cpu
can i put xeon x 3470 on DP55WB MB?
Yes, you can. It does support all the Xeon models according to the official informantion, provided by the MoBo manufacturer: www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel/DP55WB.html
It means that a x3470 is MUCH better than a i5? I've got the x3470 and the same motherboard as you! the same model, but when I launched it with the xeon, nothing happened... I think it's the BIOS, I need to update it, so I ordered a i5... What do you think, It would be helpful, thank you!
Yes, X3470 has 8 threads, while i5 750 (or 760) has only 4 threads. Majority of modern games and modern applications can effectively use hyperthreading, so X3470 will be faster than i5. 4 additional threads may provide up to 50% better performance (gaming framerates usually increase by 20-30%).
You can use any compatible CPU to update BIOS - i3, i5 or i7.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you man! I saw the video about the overclocking, and because I have the same cpu and motherboard, I can just put the settings that you put in the video)
You are welcome. But take a note than all CPUs are a bit different (due to silicon lottery). Yours might be a bit better or a bit worse. Of course you can try my settings and they will probably be OK for your system. But in case you get any errors, just try decrease BCLK a little bit.
Can i upgrade from i5 650 to any i7 1th ??
Yes, you can. The amount of options will depend on your MoBo model though.
@@starstreamgamer3704 i have optilex 980 and 1156socket
@@starstreamgamer3704 i want to buy i7 880 or 870 who is better i7 880 or i5 2400 for games
There is no sense in paying more for i7-880. Go for i7-870 or i7-860. Overclocked i7-860 will be on par or even faster than i5-2400 for games.
@@starstreamgamer3704 i will have boutlneck whith gt1030 and i7 870 or 860 ?
Hi bro, a little question, between an i7 870 and a xeon 3440 which one do you recommend the most, taking into account that I would not want to overclock it
Hi. 870 is a bit faster due to higher stock core frequency and higher stock NB frequency. I'd definitely recommend 870 if the price for both of these models would be the same. But 870 is usually 3 times more expensive. So it's up to you to decide. X3470 and X3460 are good alternatives in my opinion. X3470 is as fast as 870 but less expensive.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Thank you very much friend, now I am very determined and confident of the processor that I am thinking of buying, thank you bro and for certain good video
@@SAQUEN_EL_VICIO You're welcome!
So the 860 I picked up for $40 in the mini gaming pc I built was very worth it. Proforms well with GeForce GTX 970 amd 16gb ram. Flawless running just die already and fortnite. No overclocking.
@@kiachris76712 $40? That's so expensive. You can basically get it for $10 or less nowadays
Hey man i have a question what is good motherboard between this two
Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H or Asus P7H55-M?
Hi! If you are planning to perform CPU overclocking, I'd choose P7H55-M as it has VRM heatsink.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you so mucchhhh sirrrrr you help me a lot
You are welcome.
dude i went from an i3 550 to a xeon x3430 and now my motherboard has continuous beep . which may be?
Hi! What motherboard do you have? You may need to update it's BIOS first.
Continuous beep may mean that your MoBo either do not support X3430 or the CPU itself is faulty.
Can i overclock my x3440 with asrock h55m motherboard? I have an intel stock cooler and Thetmaltake V200 computer case.
Hi! This board has a relatively poor VRM quality, so I wouldn't recommend to overuse overclocking. 3,2-3,4 GHz is the maximum safe frequency for this board (depending on the CPU voltage value, which shouldn't be higher than 1,2 V). Intel stock cooler will also limit the ability to overclock your CPU. So, yes, 3,4 GHz is the maximum frequency you can try to achieve.
But you can overclock your memory without any problems. Even if you OC only memory and BCLK (leaving base CPU frequency on the same level), you will still get a decent performance improvement.
@@starstreamgamer3704 im new to overclocking, how do i overclock my CPU?
Here is the video instruction about overclocking CPU and RAM: ruclips.net/video/dm5C9NsfMUU/видео.html
got an intel dh55pj, using a i3-530 rn on slight overclock, using any of these how much can i overclock
Well, it will partly depend on a certain CPU quality itself. But the main thing is the quality of a VRM of your MoBo. DH55PJ has a poor quality VRM and no heatsinks. But taking into account the fact than i3-530 has only two cores, even with such a MoBo like DH55PJ can achieve a decent result. I think 3,5 GHz is achievable in your case. Just try not to exceed 1,25V (CPU voltage).
Ideally you should install addtional small cooler over a VRM space (80-90mm should be enough).
@@starstreamgamer3704 what will you recommend, upgrade to i5-1st gen and 8gb ram or h61/h81 upgrade with a decent processor
It's a hard question. The answer depends on what are going to use your PC for.
@@starstreamgamer3704 just need to game and for content storage. will look into my path now maybe will sell this one and get a new combo
I'd recommend to consider a CPU with at least 8 threads, if you are going to play modern AAA games as they are very demanding. For your current board I'd buy X3440 or i7 860.
If you are going to change the whole platform, I'd suggest to choose LGA 2011, LGA 2011-3 or AM4. These platforms can offer 6- and even 8-core CPUs. While LGA 1155 or LGA 1150 can offer 4 cores and 8 threads at best (i7 4770(K) and i7 2600(K) respectively).
I'd say B450 + used Ryzen 1600 is a good choice as well as X79 + Xeon E5-1650(v2) or X99 + Xeon E5-2620v3. They all offer 6 cores and 12 threads, which is a minimum requirement for today's games.
Since xeon X3470 has no integrated GPU so what if i don’t have even dedicated GPU do i can still use my PC or boot with xeon X3470?
Well, yes, you can boot your PC. But with Xeon you will need any external GPU. Otherwise you won't be able to output video signal.
Starstream Gamer what if i have on board graphics that has 128mb is that ok?
If your motherboard has on board graphics, then you should be able to use it. But take a note that 128 MB of VRAM is not enough for gaming.
Starstream Gamer it’s ok i’m not into gaming, i’m more into programming and workstation. Thank you so much for your kind and responsiveness you just save me a lot
You are welcome!
Do you think i should upgrade from an i7 870 to a intel pentium g4560 ? I have a good motherboard for the g4560 but i dont know if its worth upgrading.
It's hard to say. G4560 is based on a much newer architecture, but it has only 2 cores / 4 threads. I do not think it will be faster. Some games need at least 4 cores / 8 threads to function properly. So I would not call it an upgrade.
In addition LGA 1151 platform do not offer any great upgrade possibilities. All i5 6X00/7X00 are 4 thread CPUs. So if you are not planning to upgrade to i7 6700(K) / 7700(K) or perform the "coffee mode", I wouldn't recommend to switch to 1151.
If you want to get a significant performance improvement over i7 870, I would suggest to consider LGA 2011-3 or AM4 platforms, starting with Xeon E5-2620v3 (turbo unlocked) and Ryzen 3 3100 respectively. LGA 1151v2 platform offer a decent upgrade path as well.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thanks a lot ! When I have enough money I will go for the i7 6700k and then i will switch to the b150m-k motherboard.
You are welcome. i7 6700K is still a decent CPU. But if you are not going to overclock it, 6700 will provide very close level performance.
@@starstreamgamer3704 so If I paired it with a 1660 super it would bottleneck ?
You mean 6700? No, it will not bottleneck 1660 S. It's all core boost is 3,7 GHz. So 6700 will be ~30-40% faster than OCed 870 (@4 GHz).
Stock 6700K (which all core boost is 4 GHz) is just 5% faster than 6700.
Hello, if you can help me, I will be very happy, I have an i5 750 @4.0ghz stable (idk if I can push it more, and a msi p55-gd55 and a ok tower coolet) where I live, Romania, there are just one man that sells x3440 for 13€, one man that sells x3450 for 14€, and one man that sells x3470 for 50$, I think that my mobo is a good overclocker, and all i7's are like 40-55$, should I go for x3440 if I can do...like 3.7...4.0? Thanks
Unlike 750, X3440 supports HT, which will increase framerate in majority of modern games by ~25%, but what's more important it will also increase 1% low and 0,1% low values, thus drastically improving frametime (by ~50%). If your MoBo handles i5 750 clocked at 4 GHz well enough, then it will be a good choice for X3440 too. Whether you will be able to overclock X3440 to 4 GHz or not mostly depends on the quality of the certain chip. Some of them can operate at this frequency at 1,25 V while others need 1,35 V.
I do not think it is worth buying X3470 for $50. It is faster than X3440, but not by much.
Just take a note that due to the presence of HT X3440 is hotter than 750 by ~5-7 °C and consumes about 10% more power.
@@starstreamgamer3704 I think that my mobo can do higher than 4.0ghz on that i5, also xeons have lower temps than i7's due to no integrated graphics, I am right? I found today a x3470 for 36€ (but still 3x more than x3440) I think I will try my luck and try to repaste the northbridge and go with x3440
Also: it will be a difference betwen x3440, x3450 and x3470 when they are clocked let's say to 3.8 4.0?
Integrated GPU can increase temps only if you use it. In idle mode it consumes negligible amount of power.
At the same clock frequency X3460/3470/3480 will be about 2-4% faster than X3440/3450 due to higher NB clock (the speed of their L3 caches is higher as a result). €36 is still too expensive for X3470 in my opinion. I purchased mine a year and a half ago for ~€15 on Aliexpress, while X3440 was just ~€8 cheaper. But paying €23 more is not worth it (IMHO).
@@starstreamgamer3704 thanks, one more question (sorry) should I take x3440 (cuz it's more popular) or x3450? The dif in price is 2€
Edit: they are the same price cuz shipping on x3450 is cheaper
The only difference between X3440 and X3450 is base core clock frequency. X3440 max multiplier is 19 (19x133=2,53 GHz), while X3450 max multiplier is 20 (20x133=2,66GHz). If your MoBo can reach at least 200 MHz BCLK frequency, then there no sence in paying more for X3450, if not, then X3450 will provide slighly better performance.
If the price is the same, then I would choose X3450, just in case.
im using
x3470 cpu
bulldozer H55 mother board
2x4gb ram (kingston 1600hz)
gt 710 (1gb) inno 3d
its keep crashing when i open up some website or maybe multitab(4-5tab).
idk what is the problem , im already update my driver, any solutions?
What about games or any other apps? Does it crash there too?
Looks like there is a problem with memory, as web browsers load RAM heavily. Have you overclocked your RAM? If yes, then try to test it for stability with a help of TestMem5.
If you are using stock RAM, then test it with a help of MemTest86. It will take several hours to complete one pass, but then you will know for sure if the blame is on RAM or not.
okay thx, ill try it later
ahh i was thinking to upgrade its vga to gtx 750 ti 2gb , are u really sure the problem is ram?
Not sure. That's why I suggested you to test your RAM. Web browser crashes are most likely happening due to RAM problem. But it also might be CPU fault.
Did you buy this whole PC? Or just upgraded it? For example, if your RAM worked fine with another CPU, that the problem is most probably in X3470. Have you experienced crashes before you upgraded it? The answer to your question depends on the specific situation.
@@starstreamgamer3704 yea i upgraded it from pentium e 5800, it worked fine with 4gb ram single channel, then i buy another one but the physical size smaller (same speed) still no problem, until i got new motherboard and cpu.
hello i have i5 760 and asus P7P55-M are this xeon supported in this motherboard ?
Hi! I've done some searching. According to the information, provided by a few users of P7P55-M model, it does support Xeons. At least with the latest BIOS version - 1101. Here is an example: valid.x86.fr/m37pyy
@@starstreamgamer3704 thank you my friend i am gone order x3450
What about the i7 875k?
In fact it is a copy of i7-870. I do not know why Intel added "K" to the name of this CPU. All Lynnfield CPUs have unlocked multiplier. So the only difference between all i7s is the base clock frequency.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Are you sure about the unlocked multiplier?
I have an i7 870 and it's locked on 22 (the intel turbo boost technology can go up to 27 on one core). There is the i5 665k and the i7 875k and on their original packaging shows that they are unlocked. The i7 870, for example, don't state anything like that.
Well, you can change the i7-870 miltiplier, so it is unlocked. But there is absolutely no sense in increasing it. You can acheive much better results by increasing BCLK. You will probably need to decrease the multiplier by a few steps in this case. The base BCLK value is 133 MHz. If you increase it to 180 MHz (which is a viable for majority of P55 and even some H55 MoBos), then CPU frequency will increase to 3,96 GHz (180x22). I personally was able to increase BCLK frequency to 218 MHz, so I had to decrease the multiplier down to 18.
@@starstreamgamer3704 Fair enough. I think the i7 875k max multiplier is x62. I'm not sure why it's called unlocked. If I know good, intel called this kind of processors extreme edition before. That is seems more correct.
The x18 looks good, the QPI link use the same multiplier.
Anyway, I'll go for a xeon x3480 if I can find one for a fair price. Just because of the 32GB ram support.
Yeah. I think that the ablity to increase multiplier is the only reason they aded "K".
Xeon X3480 max multiplier is 23, while X3460 max multiplier is 21. That is the only difference between these CPUs. Not sure it is worth double the price.
Hi i have a motherboard Asrock P67 Transformer 1156 , with Intel(R) Xeon (TM) 3450 i overclocked my cpu to 3.8 ghz with 1.2 v, when i try to get 4.2 Ghz system is doing bad and going to blue screen, if i change CPU to Xeon 3470 can i take 4.1-4.2 ghz ? . Thank you man
Hi. Nobody can guarantee that you will be able overclock your CPU sample to 4.2 GHz. It just may not be able to work at this frequency. Replacing it with X3470 will not change much. You may win silicon lottery and your X3470 will be able to work at 4,2 GHz with 1.3 V. But majority of these CPUs need at least 1.4 V to function at 4,1-4,2 GHz.
I would not recommend you to overclock your CPU to 4,2 GHz. Such high frequency will provide you just about 2-3% better performance in comparison with 4 Ghz, while the increase in CPU temperature will be astounding.
Still if you want to reach 4,2 GHz, you need to raise CPU voltage higher than 1,2 V. Try 1,3-1,35-1,4 V. Watch your CPU and MoBo temps. VRM temps will increase a lot as well!
is this p7h55-m/v-p7h55e/dp_mb motherboard as powerful as this one P7P55DE_EVO ? bcs i have this one and can i put xeon x3470 on it?
P7P55D-E EVO is significantly more advanced MoBo - it has much more power phases and also heatsinks.
According to some users of p7h55-m/v-p7h55e/dp_mb, it does support Xeons.
@@starstreamgamer3704 will my motherboard have the same performace with x3470 like evo?and are u really sure my motherboard support x3470 ??
What do you mean by "the same performance"? At stock clocks X3470 will perfrom exactly the same on any LGA1156 MoBo. But if we are talking about overclocking, then the EVO board will definitely provide better results and thus better performance.
Look here: forums.aida64.com/topic/4873-asus-p7h55-m-aux-temperature/ As you can see, this guy has the same MoBo as you and X3470.
@@starstreamgamer3704 i dont want to overclock this cpu bro and thanks for the informations.i have a last question should i update my bios to support x3470 or this dosent mean?? Xddd
Can't say for sure. My MoBo didn't need an update. If you have an opportunity to install X3470 without an update, try it. If not, I'd recommend you to update BIOS, just in case.
Hi~!!! Nice to meet U~
I'm Korean.
I can speak English a little.
I have
CPU : Q3M5 (I7-880 es OEM)
M/B : ASUS P7P55D-E PRO (SATA3, USB3.0)
RAM : CORSAIR DDR3 8G PC3-12800 CL9 VENGEANCE LP WHITE 16Gb (4Gb x 4)
COOLLIING : Corsair Hydro Series H115i
SSD : SAMSUNG 850 Pro 512GB
P/W : Micronics Classic II 700W +12V Single Rail 85+
If I use overclock 4.0~4.2 over more, do U know limite VGA?
Can I use 1080ti??? (?_?)
Congratulate to Open your RUclips!!!
I do click Good & Reading in first!!!
Hello! Thank you for your kind words.
1. You have one of the best motherboards for 1156 socket. Yes, you can overclock your i7-880 to 4,0 and maybe even to 4,1 GHz. But the frequency will depend a lot on a specific CPU. Some of them can easily overlclock to 4,1 GHz, while some others - can not.
You have a great CPU cooling system. It will help to keep the temerature of your CPU under control.
But there is another problem - VRM temperature. If you want to overclock your CPU higher than 3,8 GHz, be prepared that VRM zone will be very very hot. In order to keep it as cool as possible, you'd better install a small 40mm (or 60mm) fan on the heatsink (near CPU).
To hit 4,0+ GHz you will need to raise the CPU voltage to 1,36-1,4 V. Making this CPU work at these conditions 24/7 is not a good idea (IMHO). But if you really want to do it, don't forget about additional fan for VRM.
Try to find the highest BCLK frequecny first. For your motherboard it will probaly be some value between 210 and 220 MHz.
2. According to official web-site, Asus P7P55D-E Pro has PCIe 2.0 x16, which means that 1080 Ti will be an overkill for your PC. 1070 Ti (or RTX 2060) is the fastest graphics card you should use.
To be honest, even disregarding the fact that P7P55D has old PCIe 2.0, i7-880 (even overclocked to 4,2 GHz) is simply too slow for 1080 Ti. This CPU would not allow this GPU to reach it's full potential.
Anyway, you can buy 1080 Ti now simply to lay the groundwork for your future PC.
Wooooooooooow!!!
Thank u soooo much!!! for your so kind answer!!!
Your answers helped me a lot.
I look forward to seeing your RUclips continue to grow with more subscribers.
Thank U!!! Have a nice day!!!
You are welcome!
I just oder x3470.. upgrade my hp8100 . With gtx950.12gbram
Great! Hope you will enjoy your new CPU.
why not the i7 875k its unlocked
All Lynnfield CPUs can be overclocked via BCLK. Moreover overclocking via BCLK is more effective, because it is possible to overclock memory controller and RAM this way. So there is no need in unlocked multiplier for LGA1156 platform.
@@starstreamgamer3704 can all intel cpu be oc'd via bclk but bclk oc'ing isnt the same
здравствуйте . не запускается rx 5700 xt на lga 1156 .в чем проблема ?после биоса черный экран , gtx 1050 норм работает, моя система asus p7h55m, rx 5700 xt, windows 10 x64, ,блок питания на 750 в, оперативка на 8 гб
LGA 1156 goes well until PCI-e 2.0, some newer GPU you'll need luck to run on this plataform.
Do you still have this setup?
Is foxconn 1156 compatible?
Yes, Foxconn LGA 1156 MoBos do support Xeons, according to users experience.
hello , should i upgrade my I5 650 to i7 870 for about $30 ????
.(my motherboard is only compatible upto I7 870) my motherboard from intel hp 304bh
. my pc is hp 8100 elite CMT ,
will i get more fps in games and how much????
i7 870 has twice as much cores, twice as much threads and twice as large L3 cache. This will be a massive improvement for games. I think you can expect up to 50% higher framerates.
@@starstreamgamer3704 thanks man . thank you very much
You are welcome!
@@starstreamgamer3704 hello bro just one last question
HOW to know that my bios version can support this processor??
THANKS AGAIN..
You should visit the official site of the brand and search for the info about BIOS versions for your MoBo. They should provide all the info about supported CPUs for each version.
Does the X3470 run on the Asus P7P55D-E EVO?
Seems yes. Confirmed?
www.userbenchmark.com/System/Asus-P7P55D-E-EVO/7138
Although the devs does not provide official information about Xeon support, this MoBo do support these CPUs.
can LGA 1156 holds 16GB RAM DDR3? (1600MHz)
Yes. 2x8 GB is no problem for any Lynnfield CPUs. Xeon CPUs officially support up to 32 GB (4x8 GB) of DDR3.
@@starstreamgamer3704 But if the Mobo doesn't support?
What MoBo is this?
The named is Amphtron, Bulldozer and varro
If MoBo has 4 DIMM slots, you should be able to install 16 (4x4) GB of RAM. It concerns all motherboards made by Asus, AsRock and Gigabyte paired with any Lynnfield CPU. But I am not sure about the brands you mentioned. You'd better contact with them and ask if it is possible.
But if MoBo has only 2 DIMM slots, I am not sure you will be able to use 2x8 GB. 2x4 GB should be no problem though.
bought a x3470 for $15 lol
Good for you. I purchased mine in 2019 for roughly the same price. Then it's price increased approximately by two times. But that is a typical situation for old Xeon CPUs. Their prices rise and fall spontaneously.