@@martycech5844 Except Lonnegan switched decks and Floyd was examining the deck afterward and if 8 Jacks turned up, he would have spotted them right away. Try again.
@@TrumpetMAB What he did was of course impossible, and, because of the brilliance af the acting and direction it actually added to the greatness of the scene.
Yep! The "Sting" that was perpetrated on us, the audience, was at the beginning of the film there were credits that said something like: ... and Joe Blow as the FBI man What WE didn't know at the time was that the "FBI man" wasn't really an FBI man. I never heard anyone before you, James, that realized the Sting was on us. Great film.
The best part of that scene is the brief moment where both hands disappear from the table surface, so they can switch between Paul Newman and the professional card wrangler.
Switched in a split second between the ribbon spread and the turnover. Newman actually did the turnover, so then no cut as the camera pans up to show the hands connected to the arms, shoulder, face of Henry Gondorff as played by Paul Newman. The card-ribbon turnover is easy compared to what they must have done to switch who's there, face out of shot for the sleight-of-hand sequence. Did they cut sound for that bit? Movie magic circa 1973.
I know I'm nit picking, but the cards he used were Tally Ho fans . To be fair however,they're both made by the United States playing card company in Kentucky
Well, guess you messed stuff up here, leading to you really grossly underestimating the difficulty of the moves and the dexterity shown here. The second false cut is the "Fancy blind cut No 1" from Erdnase. It is more complicated than the cut you explain (you need to throw the upper portion a bit into the air in order to be able to remove the lower portion in two packets...), but not too hard. Looking at it from a perspective of difficulty, the easiest thing is the false cut you explained. Then the second deal (I am not sure whether Scarne really does a push-off here, however ...). Followed by the Erdnase fancy blind cut. The one-handed cut you left out is by far the hardest thing done in this video. You probably think it is a simple Charlier Cut. It is not. It is the "Erdnase Shift, One hand" also by Erdnase.
@@robertgift I believe he had the cards up his sleeves. His performance made everyone underestimate him as a threat and if you notice, no one is looking at his hands. They’re too busy studying his face to notice the switch. He knows the two types of decks that Lonnegan likes to use so he had a contingency up his sleeve and anticipated the deck switch by Lonnegan.
As far as the film story is concerned, he switched when he is digging in his shirt pocket for matches. How he manages 4 jacks not knowing if his opponent has any jacks I don’t know. Modern card tricks would be no problem to pull off even slicker moves.
i hope you are trying to make it obvious...because it was easy to see how you were second card dealing and keeping the ace on top....you could get seriously messed up if this is actually how good you are... ive been playing poker for over 40 years.....
You should not be attempting to explain anyone else's if you can't do it yourself. Also there were two professional card men who did this sequence, John Scarne and George Millward.
Hey kid, you should get the Brad Burt training videos. You will find cards easier to handle. If anyone is acquainted with Brad Burt, see if he will make his teaching series available again. Come on Brad...
I give you an A for effort, but you got most of it wrong. You got one of the card cutting wrong. "Second dealing" is not pushing 2 cards off and taking the lower card with your finger. It's pivoting the top card, then using your thumb to pull the exposed corner of the 2nd card off the deck.
Unlikely I'd say, but... My favorite book on card tricks, written by Bill Turner and published under multiple titles, says that crooked gamblers make professional magicians look like children playing with cereal box tops.
I had a deck of trick cards, half of the cards were the ace of spades, which were the size of a regular card, the other 26 cards, were a fraction of an inch shorter, many tricks were available with this deck, if you knew what you were doing...
Thanks, but how sure are you on details? Sounds like what magicians call a "Svengali Deck", but classically it's the 26-times repeated card that's a bit shorter. And ace of spades? Worst force card by far. Ask a random spectator to name a random card and "ace of spades" will be it in approximately the proportion as in the trick deck you remember.
@@brygenon depending how you split the deck, you knew the trick to produce a random card or the/an ace of spades… I’m sure these decks are still available, I purchased mine at the state fair of Texas probably early to mid 70’s…
I just watched the movie. It was predictable. The love interest seemed like filler. He shows up at th assassins room, like what, she knew he would? It was ok but id give it 6 out of 10.
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The shot was done with a little photography fakery. They had a Vegas card ace doing all the card work. At the very end of the shot you'll notice he pulls BOTH his hands away. That is key. As his hands leave frame the camera stops rolling. Newman then takes his place and the camera pans up to him winking. The cut was done on the hands leaving frame. Because the camera is locked off you don't notice the switch.
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Never mind how he did the pre-game card tricks. Show us how Newman converted four threes to four jacks while blowing his nose. :)
Newman ‘kept’ one jack per hand. Professional card players are just that, Professional😉
@@martycech5844 Except Lonnegan switched decks and Floyd was examining the deck afterward and if 8 Jacks turned up, he would have spotted them right away. Try again.
@@TrumpetMAB What he did was of course impossible, and, because of the brilliance af the acting and direction it actually added to the greatness of the scene.
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It wasn’t when he was blowing his nose that was the hand before it was when he was reaching for his matches to light the cigar
Thank you for the demonstration. To me, it was magic. To my children, it was digital special effects. To you, it is competence. Bravo.
Yes, it certainly was "digital." lol. 🖐🤚
I loved that movie. The ending was a perfect sting, pulled on the movie audience.
Yep! The "Sting" that was perpetrated on us, the audience, was at the beginning of the film there were credits that said something like:
... and Joe Blow as the FBI man
What WE didn't know at the time was that the "FBI man" wasn't really an FBI man.
I never heard anyone before you, James, that realized the Sting was on us. Great film.
The biggest trick was teaching a Martian to call horse races.
Mr Hand called horse races? WHOA!-Jeff Spicoli
After living on Earth for years, he moved to the Presidio, and became Boothby, the groundskeeper at Star Fleet Academy.
The best part of that scene is the brief moment where both hands disappear from the table surface, so they can switch between Paul Newman and the professional card wrangler.
Switched in a split second between the ribbon spread and the turnover. Newman actually did the turnover, so then no cut as the camera pans up to show the hands connected to the arms, shoulder, face of Henry Gondorff as played by Paul Newman. The card-ribbon turnover is easy compared to what they must have done to switch who's there, face out of shot for the sleight-of-hand sequence. Did they cut sound for that bit? Movie magic circa 1973.
Thanks for Explaining This Trick...I always wondered how it was done... :)
...Easy. During filming, Paul Newman had his arms behind him while John Scarne did the shuffle while watching a monitor.
I know I'm nit picking, but the cards he used were Tally Ho fans . To be fair however,they're both made by the United States playing card company in Kentucky
The Black guy killed in the film is the father of James Earl Jones (voice of Darth Vader)
Thanks man - great video
Well, guess you messed stuff up here, leading to you really grossly underestimating the difficulty of the moves and the dexterity shown here.
The second false cut is the "Fancy blind cut No 1" from Erdnase. It is more complicated than the cut you explain (you need to throw the upper portion a bit into the air in order to be able to remove the lower portion in two packets...), but not too hard.
Looking at it from a perspective of difficulty, the easiest thing is the false cut you explained.
Then the second deal (I am not sure whether Scarne really does a push-off here, however ...).
Followed by the Erdnase fancy blind cut.
The one-handed cut you left out is by far the hardest thing done in this video. You probably think it is a simple Charlier Cut. It is not. It is the "Erdnase Shift, One hand" also by Erdnase.
Thank you. But how did he change the four 3s into four Jacks.
There's a lot going on there(some of which is questionably possible) and would require an entire video to cover.
@@Green-Light They just did not do it. Had he really done it, we could have discovered it with repeated viewings.
@@robertgift I believe he had the cards up his sleeves. His performance made everyone underestimate him as a threat and if you notice, no one is looking at his hands. They’re too busy studying his face to notice the switch. He knows the two types of decks that Lonnegan likes to use so he had a contingency up his sleeve and anticipated the deck switch by Lonnegan.
As far as the film story is concerned, he switched when he is digging in his shirt pocket for matches. How he manages 4 jacks not knowing if his opponent has any jacks I don’t know. Modern card tricks would be no problem to pull off even slicker moves.
@@2Chickaboom2 It is simply a movie! Nothing mysterious, just movie magic!!!
i hope you are trying to make it obvious...because it was easy to see how you were second card dealing and keeping the ace on top....you could get seriously messed up if this is actually how good you are... ive been playing poker for over 40 years.....
Very Nice, Well Done
Interesting! I always kinda wondered about this scene.
Well,now you know !
You should not be attempting to explain anyone else's if you can't do it yourself. Also there were two professional card men who did this sequence, John Scarne and George Millward.
Hey kid, you should get the Brad Burt training videos. You will find cards easier to handle. If anyone is acquainted with Brad Burt, see if he will make his teaching series available again. Come on Brad...
I give you an A for effort, but you got most of it wrong.
You got one of the card cutting wrong.
"Second dealing" is not pushing 2 cards off and taking the lower card with your finger. It's pivoting the top card, then using your thumb to pull the exposed corner of the 2nd card off the deck.
If both methods are equally effective, what's the difference? The way he did it here looked pretty good to me.
Awesome video
Makes me wonder if stuff like this happens at Casino's. You'd think it would have to.
Only dealers are allowed to deal in casinos so no it wouldn’t happen much the dealer does an open shuffle spreading cud’s on table
Unlikely I'd say, but... My favorite book on card tricks, written by Bill Turner and published under multiple titles, says that crooked gamblers make professional magicians look like children playing with cereal box tops.
But you didn't do all the false cuts that he did
I had a deck of trick cards, half of the cards were the ace of spades, which were the size of a regular card, the other 26 cards, were a fraction of an inch shorter, many tricks were available with this deck, if you knew what you were doing...
Thanks, but how sure are you on details? Sounds like what magicians call a "Svengali Deck", but classically it's the 26-times repeated card that's a bit shorter. And ace of spades? Worst force card by far. Ask a random spectator to name a random card and "ace of spades" will be it in approximately the proportion as in the trick deck you remember.
@@brygenon depending how you split the deck, you knew the trick to produce a random card or the/an ace of spades… I’m sure these decks are still available, I purchased mine at the state fair of Texas probably early to mid 70’s…
@@roostercogburn809 It's a fair cop. Got my deck of "TV Magic Cards" in the 70's too. Just looked up the ad that sold me... hey wow... ace of spades
I just watched the movie. It was predictable. The love interest seemed like filler. He shows up at th assassins room, like what, she knew he would?
It was ok but id give it 6 out of 10.
Think of it when it came out though...THAT audience in 1973 was thrilled by it. 5.5 MM budget too.
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The music is too loud!!!!
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You are definitely going to get shot on that train doing a 2nd deal like that!
Please take this video down, practice and re-record it.
The shot was done with a little photography fakery. They had a Vegas card ace doing all the card work. At the very end of the shot you'll notice he pulls BOTH his hands away. That is key. As his hands leave frame the camera stops rolling. Newman then takes his place and the camera pans up to him winking. The cut was done on the hands leaving frame. Because the camera is locked off you don't notice the switch.
Card tricks aren’t that hard if you use a camera.
ah... a specialist
and where is the one handed erdnase pass???? ;) ;) ;)
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Why did you edit the music louder than the dialogue? Crap video. Redo.