I love how you understand the game! I wish you was part of our coaching staff. This level of understanding is what they are missing. It should be obvious when other teams have lesser talent and are playing better defense.
I'M WITH YOU SETH ALL THE WAY 🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅 IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE A TEAM LOADED WITH TALENT TO BE SO POORLY COACHED WITH SUCH POOR DEFENSE AND SCHEMES, JUST UNBELIEVABLE, UNACCEPTABLE AND INEXCUSABLE 🤬🙄😢
I hate that i miss the livestream, but does anyone else think that the Eagles philosophy of creating explosive plays is what’s contributing to hurts bad decisions playing hero ball?
Absolutely!! If you listen closely, they’ve got Kellen Moore singing that same exact tune! They don’t want a “dual threat” QB. They want a traditional style pocket passing QB. That’s not who Jalen is! But, they’re trying to force/change him to be and it’s not working. He’s not comfortable and is showing.
They haven't even been throwing deep this year much! Not having AJ BROWN last 3 games also is huge. Of course. This offense needs to use the WHOLE WR ROUTE TREE. BUT THEY DONT . THIS TEAM IS A JOKE
@@Dr.Philly10000 %. That's why Jalen holds the ball so long, looking for those "explosive" 80 yd bombs....use the route tree, not just a screen or go routes.
This is the coaches fault. Going back to last year, same formula. Looking for the "explosive play" instead of running the ball or using different routes
I wish Howie would stop looking for Yes men, and hire a Smart Warrior, Teacher like Seth Joyner. I garauntee the team would play every game Inspired, Confident with knowledge, and do their JOBS! This team is too talented to be struggling like lost pups!
@7minute mark! EXACTLY! This is ONE of the reasons why Jalen doesn’t like Nick! He knows what happened behind the scenes and that Nick scapegoated Brian. Now, Jalen can’t trust Nick. You can’t respect a man you can’t trust. Brian was never the problem. He’s known Jalen his whole life. He knew what plays to call that aligned with Jalen’s strengths. He also knew how to coach Jalen on what he needed to improve on. Now, Nick is doing the same thing to Kellen Moore. Nick is taking orders from upper management to change/force Jalen into being a traditional QB.
I don't remember the year but I still see you catching Dave Meggett from behind and tackling him. And he was a very fast runner. That was an amazing play Seth!
We're gonna learn a lot about this team this weekend. No excuses left, we should dominate from start to finish against a subpar team. If we lose a lot of questions are gonna be asked and we might be looking at next years changes that need to be made the rest of the season
We’ve invested in the wrong players ( young players) and to some degree they have to play with very little in return from those investments. The front office has to do something drastic to light a fire under these players and cutting Devin White is not it. A move like benching/ trading Slay could be what wakes these guys up and put some others on notice.
Keep on droppin these streams Mr.Joyner. We were checking for you OG. You're the best in the business. You don't sugar coat nothin. You always keep it a bean and tell it how it is. You're the voice of the people. 🤝🏾🫡
How Nick fucked over Brian Johnson is why Jalen don’t fw em 🤷🏾♂️ an offensive head coach that’s not allowed to coach offense is crazy lmao. He should’ve been fired . We need a defensive HC and a helluva OC. TRADE FOR STEICHEN
I have been saying this for a while but one of the biggest problems with the team is that they continue to put subpar performers on the field for some reason. It decreases competitiveness. Players know and if they see slacking they either slack off too, force the issue and get them to step up or the coaches gotta gett’em outta there.
Seth great presentation. Organizationally the decision for the defense to play passively has continued thoughout the tenure of 3 defensive coordinators. Even in 2022 the middle of the field was an issue at times. The difference was better off ball Linebacker play and superior performance from the D line. Even Gannon's defense in Arizona looks nothing like the passivity played in the backend durning his tenure in Philadelphia
For all those who are young..If the Eagles had 24 SETH’s on the starting units as the player he was…. SB TITLES EVERY YEAR…He was a RARE CAT….HE AINT JUST TALKIN !!!
If this team was really Committed to winning, we would have Barkley and another good Powerback and run the ball 40 times a game. You only really need 20-25 pass plays with a dominant run game and as long as Aj and Smitty getting theirs we str8.
Nick is only good while he’s winning. He was fortunate with Shane and defenses had not figured out how to defend our RPO game. Now that they have and Shane is gone, you see that he doesn’t have a clue!
Jalen has no confidence in Nick. I knew this was going to happen when he couldn't even sit back and watch during the scrimmage at the Link durning the summer. You can go back and watch the replay of that event and i knew he was not going to step back and let Moore work. The bigger problem is Nick's ego is so big he cannot admit his failures and do the work to improve himself. He's a rock head and he needs to go for this team to move forward because its apparent he has learned nothing from his failures
Slay had said on his podcast before when Gannon was the coach that he prefers to play off ball, so that he can jump routes and make plays. I think he’s old and needs to play off now.
11:50 Seth, I lived and died with you guys under Buddy when I was a teenager, and at 53 years old, I still bleed GREEN. But those guys up there today ain't us anymore. Today, we have refs all over the place throwing yellows for everything under the sun - especially over the middle. YOU are talking football. THEY are talking ASSES IN THE SEATS.
The more I listen to Seth, the more I feel Nick should have been fired. New OC but we have the same effect offensively. Nick is the common denominator. Nick needs to be Salah'ed!
The Eagles have more skill position talent than any offense I've seen in 40 years I don't care if mickey mouse is calling plays if it fails it's on Hurts
I live in the Houston area. I started following the Houston Texans because the Eagles are so maddening to watch. So tired of Nick. I will record the eagles and watch it later if they win until they figure it out. I've been watching since 1990. So sad.
Yeah Jalen is in pistol wayyyyyy too much for a Moore offense, Jalen has had different OC'S his entire career but they hired Kellen before the season started and I feel he can get better, I'm not out on him yet, just wanna see him get better
Seth, why can’t we put hunt in there? Vic seen something in him? If they paid you the amount of money to be our defensive coordinator I swear you would bring that old school way of playing back and we would probably be the number one defense in the league.
We need to start games run, run ,and run. We have the biggest OL, let them t-off and beat up on these opponents. Why do we ask these guys to go backwards from the start, going into pass pro isnt aggressive enough, with these Biggest of Bigs in the league
It’s Jalen hurts he is the problem but I will say this there was reports saying the reason the eagles didn’t hire klingsbury is because he wanted full power idk if that’s true or not. Fangio had the nerve to say that our corners have the option to play press that’s bs because they don’t ever do it. If we lose to the browns nick out of there
They need to play up to the line of scrimmage n start bring some corners or safety blitz they gotta do something it makes no sense us fans know more than them its pathetic
Coaches , Players dont need connection they need correction. The caoching philosophy is the problem. Its a shame are skilled vets and young talent were able to mask it this long
Jalen seems to be struggling with setting protection, getting rid of the ball quickly, and throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field. Play calling has been very bad and predictable since the GreenBay game. How can Hurst play so well in camp, no picks during install of Moores offense and all the skill player raved about this offense. I don't get it. Just make Moore head coach and move on.
Sirianni gotta go. Moore has proven he can call plays... Sirianni has proven he can't. Lets see Hurts with 1 voice in his ear. Sirianni is a Clown and the evidence can be seen by the players laughing it up on the field while getting roasted by the same team that embarrassed you in the previous playoffs.
Nick just isn't a reliable coach and doesn't know what he is doing. You get rid of the problem which is clearly coaching and you're going to get something different. By the way this isn't Moore's offense and that's very clear.
Seth 10000% right. Vic fangio most overated defensive coach in the NFL. Has he won anything? His scheme is terrible. It's easier to pass in the NFL because of the rules. U have to play tighter more physical coverage!! Also u have to play tighter because our edge position is horrible. I hate vic fangio scheme. On offense this eagles team hasn't scored a 1st Q point !!! Lol. Nick is a joke and should of been fired after bucs playoff loss. This team has no hope of getting back to a SB with nick and vic fangio sorry
To all the young bucks, The magic of RUclips has made available LOTS and LOTS of complete games from our EAGLES yesteryear. Click up some of them to SEE FOR YOURSELF why Seth Joyner is MUST LISTEN!! DUDE. KNOWS. FOOTBALL.
@@jnbp9312 u must haven’t seen the tapes of Jalen missing wide open receivers weekly because he has regressed it’s been that way since 2023 and he still can’t read a defense u can only blame the coach for so long u have to look at jalen
I love how you understand the game! I wish you was part of our coaching staff. This level of understanding is what they are missing. It should be obvious when other teams have lesser talent and are playing better defense.
Idk if Seth is interested but every Eagles fan would absolutely love to see him coaching this team at some capacity. His philosophy IS the Eagles.
He would ge perfect! But, the Eagles management do NOT Alpha males anywhere near that coaching staff.
I'M WITH YOU SETH ALL THE WAY 🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅 IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO SEE A TEAM LOADED WITH TALENT TO BE SO POORLY COACHED WITH SUCH POOR DEFENSE AND SCHEMES, JUST UNBELIEVABLE, UNACCEPTABLE AND INEXCUSABLE 🤬🙄😢
I so look forward to hearing Seth Joyner telling it like it is!!!!
I hate that i miss the livestream, but does anyone else think that the Eagles philosophy of creating explosive plays is what’s contributing to hurts bad decisions playing hero ball?
Absolutely!! If you listen closely, they’ve got Kellen Moore singing that same exact tune! They don’t want a “dual threat” QB. They want a traditional style pocket passing QB. That’s not who Jalen is! But, they’re trying to force/change him to be and it’s not working. He’s not comfortable and is showing.
They haven't even been throwing deep this year much! Not having AJ BROWN last 3 games also is huge. Of course. This offense needs to use the WHOLE WR ROUTE TREE. BUT THEY DONT . THIS TEAM IS A JOKE
@@Dr.Philly10000 %. That's why Jalen holds the ball so long, looking for those "explosive" 80 yd bombs....use the route tree, not just a screen or go routes.
This is the coaches fault. Going back to last year, same formula. Looking for the "explosive play" instead of running the ball or using different routes
@@CTKid203 yep! Exactly!
Philadelphia will be on FIRE BIG TIME!!!! Truer words never spoken!!!!!
IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.
I hate living in a world where Seth isn’t coaching this team in some capacity
Absolutely. We're all with you on that.
I wish Howie would stop looking for Yes men, and hire a Smart Warrior, Teacher like Seth Joyner. I garauntee the team would play every game Inspired, Confident with knowledge, and do their JOBS! This team is too talented to be struggling like lost pups!
Seth you tell it like it is love u man !! Eagles fan since 78
I love this show.. the realest man who knows football and every bit of it
@7minute mark! EXACTLY! This is ONE of the reasons why Jalen doesn’t like Nick! He knows what happened behind the scenes and that Nick scapegoated Brian. Now, Jalen can’t trust Nick. You can’t respect a man you can’t trust. Brian was never the problem. He’s known Jalen his whole life. He knew what plays to call that aligned with Jalen’s strengths. He also knew how to coach Jalen on what he needed to improve on. Now, Nick is doing the same thing to Kellen Moore. Nick is taking orders from upper management to change/force Jalen into being a traditional QB.
Master class by Dr Seth 🙌🏼👍🏼
God bless everyone
I don't remember the year but I still see you catching Dave Meggett from behind and tackling him. And he was a very fast runner. That was an amazing play Seth!
We're gonna learn a lot about this team this weekend. No excuses left, we should dominate from start to finish against a subpar team. If we lose a lot of questions are gonna be asked and we might be looking at next years changes that need to be made the rest of the season
I just found your channel didn’t know you had one always been a fan of yours and u talk that talk I had to subscribe 🎉
We’ve invested in the wrong players ( young players) and to some degree they have to play with very little in return from those investments. The front office has to do something drastic to light a fire under these players and cutting Devin White is not it. A move like benching/ trading Slay could be what wakes these guys up and put some others on notice.
I don’t know how you never even played him before cutting him. Ain’t no way he was worse than Dean!
Keep on droppin these streams Mr.Joyner. We were checking for you OG. You're the best in the business. You don't sugar coat nothin. You always keep it a bean and tell it how it is. You're the voice of the people. 🤝🏾🫡
Seth we need you on the coaching staff !
How Nick fucked over Brian Johnson is why Jalen don’t fw em 🤷🏾♂️ an offensive head coach that’s not allowed to coach offense is crazy lmao. He should’ve been fired . We need a defensive HC and a helluva OC. TRADE FOR STEICHEN
I have been saying this for a while but one of the biggest problems with the team is that they continue to put subpar performers on the field for some reason. It decreases competitiveness. Players know and if they see slacking they either slack off too, force the issue and get them to step up or the coaches gotta gett’em outta there.
15 missed tackles is Pathetic.😡
Bend but don't break defense plus three and out offense equals bend and break defense.
Thank you Seth you're the only eagle fan that talks sense the coaching staff have to coach better please everybody stop hating on hurts
Seth come coach this Defense plz!
Seth great presentation. Organizationally the decision for the defense to play passively has continued thoughout the tenure of 3 defensive coordinators. Even in 2022 the middle of the field was an issue at times. The difference was better off ball Linebacker play and superior performance from the D line. Even Gannon's defense in Arizona looks nothing like the passivity played in the backend durning his tenure in Philadelphia
For all those who are young..If the Eagles had 24 SETH’s on the starting units as the player he was…. SB TITLES EVERY YEAR…He was a RARE CAT….HE AINT JUST TALKIN !!!
Howie not being able to draft is also a HUGE problem
So true
Goodness! EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST COUPLE YEARS
When I saw the damn TE bubble screen, I knew Nick was running the offense.
Look how Brain Johnson has the Commanders Offense rolling. He is the passing coordinator. They gave him the credit on developing the QB. Go figure
Sirianni meddling!
If this team was really
Committed to winning, we would have Barkley and another good Powerback and run the ball 40 times a game. You only really need 20-25 pass plays with a dominant run game and as long as Aj and Smitty getting theirs we str8.
None of these Coaches have seen the “HOUSE OF PAIN GAME” or that team…..
Nick is only good while he’s winning. He was fortunate with Shane and defenses had not figured out how to defend our RPO game. Now that they have and Shane is gone, you see that he doesn’t have a clue!
Can we get of Sirianni so we can see Kellen Moore actual offense please
You coach the Bird's
Coach Seth
Jalen has no confidence in Nick. I knew this was going to happen when he couldn't even sit back and watch during the scrimmage at the Link durning the summer. You can go back and watch the replay of that event and i knew he was not going to step back and let Moore work. The bigger problem is Nick's ego is so big he cannot admit his failures and do the work to improve himself. He's a rock head and he needs to go for this team to move forward because its apparent he has learned nothing from his failures
I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ON THE EAGLES 🦅 IF THEY DON'T WANT TO TACKLE 🙄🤦🏻♂️🤬
Slay had said on his podcast before when Gannon was the coach that he prefers to play off ball, so that he can jump routes and make plays. I think he’s old and needs to play off now.
11:50
Seth,
I lived and died with you guys under Buddy when I was a teenager, and at 53 years old, I still bleed GREEN.
But those guys up there today ain't us anymore.
Today, we have refs all over the place throwing yellows for everything under the sun - especially over the middle.
YOU are talking football.
THEY are talking ASSES IN THE SEATS.
The more I listen to Seth, the more I feel Nick should have been fired. New OC but we have the same effect offensively. Nick is the common denominator. Nick needs to be Salah'ed!
The Eagles have more skill position talent than any offense I've seen in 40 years I don't care if mickey mouse is calling plays if it fails it's on Hurts
All you're saying is you don't understand professional sports without saying you don't understand professional sports
The only thing I disagree with Seth about is that Vic said in a presser that the DB'S can play press if they want too, they are choosing not to
Vic is straight up old school I doubt that he’s telling them that it’s their choice of doing anything other than what he wants in his scheme…ins
@@loubranch2999 well I'm just quoting him, if it's a lie then he told it!!! Hopefully they'll get more aggressive though
Eagles defense new name is Pacifist Batman
I wonder if it’s a analytics philosophy becuz every dc we had since Gannon plays this bend but dnt break defense that gets us cooked every time smh
Either way we gotta stop doin that shit 🤦🏾♂️
I live in the Houston area. I started following the Houston Texans because the Eagles are so maddening to watch. So tired of Nick. I will record the eagles and watch it later if they win until they figure it out. I've been watching since 1990. So sad.
Short dissertation. Talks for 60 minutes. Gotta respect Seth.
Yeah Jalen is in pistol wayyyyyy too much for a Moore offense, Jalen has had different OC'S his entire career but they hired Kellen before the season started and I feel he can get better, I'm not out on him yet, just wanna see him get better
Sirianni on the Hot Seat.
Nick is not a NFL level coach.
Seth, why can’t we put hunt in there? Vic seen something in him? If they paid you the amount of money to be our defensive coordinator I swear you would bring that old school way of playing back and we would probably be the number one defense in the league.
We need to start games run, run ,and run. We have the biggest OL, let them t-off and beat up on these opponents. Why do we ask these guys to go backwards from the start, going into pass pro isnt aggressive enough, with these Biggest of Bigs in the league
The Eagles gonna lose to the Browns this weekend, and Nick is getting let go next Monday!
It’s Jalen hurts he is the problem but I will say this there was reports saying the reason the eagles didn’t hire klingsbury is because he wanted full power idk if that’s true or not. Fangio had the nerve to say that our corners have the option to play press that’s bs because they don’t ever do it. If we lose to the browns nick out of there
They need to play up to the line of scrimmage n start bring some corners or safety blitz they gotta do something it makes no sense us fans know more than them its pathetic
Sitting here just shaking my head. Yep . Yep. Yessir .
I’m screaming the same nonsense nick Siriani is putting out! Fire him. Today!!
Coaches , Players dont need connection they need correction. The caoching philosophy is the problem. Its a shame are skilled vets and young talent were able to mask it this long
Jalen seems to be struggling with setting protection, getting rid of the ball quickly, and throwing into tight windows over the middle of the field. Play calling has been very bad and predictable since the GreenBay game. How can Hurst play so well in camp, no picks during install of Moores offense and all the skill player raved about this offense. I
don't get it. Just make Moore head coach and move on.
Sirianni gotta go. Moore has proven he can call plays... Sirianni has proven he can't. Lets see Hurts with 1 voice in his ear. Sirianni is a Clown and the evidence can be seen by the players laughing it up on the field while getting roasted by the same team that embarrassed you in the previous playoffs.
And Slay’s behavior!
Eagles trades incoming.... just lean back and watch
Nick just isn't a reliable coach and doesn't know what he is doing. You get rid of the problem which is clearly coaching and you're going to get something different. By the way this isn't Moore's offense and that's very clear.
Seth 10000% right. Vic fangio most overated defensive coach in the NFL. Has he won anything? His scheme is terrible. It's easier to pass in the NFL because of the rules. U have to play tighter more physical coverage!! Also u have to play tighter because our edge position is horrible. I hate vic fangio scheme. On offense this eagles team hasn't scored a 1st Q point !!! Lol. Nick is a joke and should of been fired after bucs playoff loss. This team has no hope of getting back to a SB with nick and vic fangio sorry
To all the young bucks,
The magic of RUclips has made available LOTS and LOTS of complete games from our EAGLES yesteryear.
Click up some of them to SEE FOR YOURSELF why Seth Joyner is MUST LISTEN!!
DUDE. KNOWS. FOOTBALL.
Nice should've been fired last year
Nicks needs to go
Hurts obviously can’t run any other offense, Nick wasn’t running this with Phillip rivers either…..
Shut up dork
U mean Kellen Moore ..
At the end of the day jalen is still the qb he can’t read a defense or run an nfl offense too many plays left on the field and poor pocket presence
Wasn't that way in 2022 absent Nick. It's clear Nick needs to not have any involvement in calling plays.
@@jnbp9312 the league caught on to Jalen’s play he hasn’t evolved as a player at some point I have to look at the player as well
@@shawnoutlerJalen hasn’t evolved. He’s stuck in 2022
@@shawnoutler Well, that's easy to do when you're play calling is equivalent to J.V football plays.
@@jnbp9312 u must haven’t seen the tapes of Jalen missing wide open receivers weekly because he has regressed it’s been that way since 2023 and he still can’t read a defense u can only blame the coach for so long u have to look at jalen