RAAW MADONNA V2 Long-Term Review with V2.2 Peek MTB
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Hi,
-scroll down for detailed parts list -- Sizing context: I am 1,83m or 6ft tall with a 92cm (35”) inseam and 1,91m arm span (including fingertip to fingertip) - I ride the size large V2 Madonna with a V1 rear end with 445mm stays.
this is my long-term review of the RAAW MADONNA V2 enduro mtb. I've been riding it non stop for more than two and a half years and try to give a detailed, yet entertaining overview of great aspects, durability, drawbacks, hacks and my opinion of the bike. Also there's a little sneak peek on the V2.2 and some unbelievably short riding sequences =)
Have fun!
Disclaimer:
I have been riding since the late 90s and taking skill clinics now and then and while I am not a bad rider, I am not one of the natural really fast riders who are comfortable, confident and ripping any time on any bike and in any conditions.
Little things sometimes throw off my confidence and flow to some extent. I do not rip on a sub par bike, my joints start acting up and I start to find excuses ;-)
I am fit climbing though.
I am 1,83m or 6ft tall with a 92cm (35”) inseam and 1,91m arm span (including fingertip to fingertip) - I ride the size large V2 Madonna with a V1 rear end with 445mm stays.
My main frame triangle had an occasional creak at the seatpost and got swapped for a V2 to gain some QC insight.
I didn´t find it necessary to swap it, it worked great, but Ruben is all about customer service and went out of his way to make me happy. And I am, absolutely!
Build kit:
Size large Madonna V2 frame - 445mm chainstays ( I am 1,83m tall, 91cm inseam, 76kg)
Braking: Trickstuff Direttissima brakes (fantastic, little pad clearance, bit of rub sometimes, but high leverage, incredible modulation, control and longevity - my favorite part of the bike) with Magura MDR-C-E-bike-budget rotors (great! Cheap and lots of material, no chirping)
Drivetrain: XX1 11spd cassette and chain, 28t steel chainring, XT derailleur and SRAM 11spd shifter (works great with dedicated shifter clamps, direct mount adapters on the Direttissima are not ergonomic)
Suspension: Now a 180mm Lyrik Ultimate, works great, easy to set up and DPX2 - also works great, also easy to set up. Bike originally came with Fox 36, which I killed 4 CSUs, but Fox was good with warranty, I got tired of that any way.
Seatpost: Vecnum Nivo 212mm - works flawless without a service since my first ride, 200g less than a One-Up V2 210mm post. Really good!
Wheels: PI-Rope, Vectran (textile spokes), Newmen hubs and rims. Really nice, no issues at all 1550g
Tires: DHF WT Maxxterra EXO or Conti der Baron 2.4 Protection on the front / DHR2 2.3 / Dissector 2.4 or something else on the rear, still struggling to find the perfect rear tire…
Cockpit: Syntace 20mm rise carbon bars with 31,8mm high-flex design, 40mm Syntace stem (my go to combination, works and lasts perfectly)
Saddle: SQLab 611 seat - fits my bum perfectly
Headset: Acros - comes with the frame, lasts perfectly, didn’t have to touch it once
Grips: ESI FIT XC (work for me)
Tubeless Valves: e13 - expensive, but don’t clog up all the time 
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Excellent well written review! Thank you for taking the effort to do this in english =) having lived in Germany before, I know this to be rare.
I'm looking at the v2.2 in 2023, that's a great review! Currently on a canyon spectral mullet, I like the home mechanic serviceability of the raaw. Cheers from Tassie Australia
Thank you! I still love the bike as much, now going into the fifth season. You can‘t go wrong, as long as you have trails which aren‘t only mellow grade flow stuff.
With an air shock even that can be fun, but if someone would ride exclusively mellow stuff, I‘d recommend a bike with less travel to keep things interesting.
Thank you! Been waiting to buy one for a year now! Can't wait for the re stock!
How tf is this your first video?? Looks fairly professional🤙
ok, no more words, im definitely going for the V2.2, thank you so much for puts this video together.
Nice review man 👌
I've had my v2 for over a year and I love it. I call it my "forever" bike. Weight does not bother me, it's the fact that climbing is a necessary thing and the Madonna v2 allows me to climb very comfortably. The important bit is pointing it down and having fun, true rich experience.
Cool to hear! And yes, I still feel the Madonna is a classic, because it plain works, even going into the fourth season =)
honestly great review. super well done.
Thank you very much!
Love the review!
Just watched your review…..thanks for the time and effort in making it. I’m eagerly waiting for my frame…it’s just left RAAW on Tuesday (2 Nov)….and due to arrive at my doorstep in Asia on 5 Nov. I’ve only heard good things about this bike. Can’t wait to build it!
Thank you very much for the kind feedback! You will love this bike!
@@necessaryjunk I've done about 4 rides at the short local trail....and as RAAW had promised, it's wonderfully balanced! It was very easy to quickly take to the bike.
@@mnizanh Glad to hear that! Enjoy! It keeps getting better an better =)
Thanks for the review. I've been thinking about buying a Madonna for a while now. Just need to pull the trigger. I like that you can shorten the chainstay length on the V2.2
Thanks for your kind feedback! Experimenting with chain stay length is interesting. I think you can't go wrong with a Madonna of some sort =)
Great review- Almost finished building my V3 and will take it for its first ride this afternoon!!
I like your idea of storing a tubolito in the linkage, but before I spend $50 (!!) on a tube I was wondering:
Is there a special way that you get it to stay in place on rough downhill trails? Or do you ever notice it slipping out?
Is it the Regular Tubo MTB or the S-tubo MTB?
Thanks!!
Hi,
Thanks for the compliments!
I used the one with the detachable valve stem, don´t know what it is called at the moment as they change every once in a while.
Then fold the remaining "plastic" stem so it doesn't get kinked or ripped. Put the tube in a sealed plastic foil (important to protect it from dust etc) and then just push it into the rocker with some force.
It never fell out, even in incredibly rough terrain. I think the elasticity helps...
Cheers
Znarf
@@necessaryjunk Awesome- thanks for the response!
Man I really love that bike too ..
Great review with practical and in depth knowledge. Did you consider the Raaw Jibb at all and do you have any thoughts on that bike compared to the Madonna?
Hey Rich, thanks for the kind feedback!
When I first bought my Madonna, there was no JIBB yet. But I very seriously considered one as a second bike. I haven't ridden one yet. BUT:
You'll get the same durability, all the great details and longevity and also a great geometry. At the same time, you'll end up with a roughly similar weight. (which might not be a con, depending what you want to do with the bike)
I bought a Orbea Occam carbon as a second bike at a great price. It's similar in geometry and travel and very light. I kind of regret NOT getting a Jibb instead though. That's because of tires and my local trails.
The light weight is great. But for most serious riding I'll grab the Madonna any time, because it rides better and is much less strenuous for my body. If I ride the Occam on rougher trails, I flat the light, fast tires constantly.
When I put on decent tires, the Occam isn't drastically more efficient compared to the Madonna. And the same will be valid for the Jibb. It will be snappier, be more fun on easier trails. But it will be very demanding on your body for rough riding and require more skill. After a long riding day on rough trails - you'll feel fresher and safer with the Madonna any time.
An honest reflection if your riding will be more fun on a bike which makes trails EASIER or HARDER should be key to your decision.
And that probably depends largely on your skill level and the trails you ride constantly. If you have access to proper rough trails, get a Madonna! Fitness won't be an issue in the long run. You'll adjust and love the bike!
If you ride mostly smoother trails, where light tires hold up, a Jibb will be fun.
A Madonna with a fast(ish) rear tire is also a fun way if you spend a vacation at a smoother location..
Either way, you can't go wrong!
Nice review dude.
It,s time to me to change bike and this one it's in the spotlight.
I had the privateer 141 and I really love it until It disappeared. And this bike looks very similar. I had also a mullet specialized I didn't like it to slack for descend and steep was good the rest a pain on the ass. Here we go how does on flats , on flow trails ? It's snappy or plow bike. Thanks bro
Hey!
It is fine to ride the flats - the balance is there for good cornering, slow tires will be your biggest hindrance for flowy trails.
But - it is a burly bike. If you don’t have proper terrain, you’ll be better served by a snappy little trail bike.
At the same time, the Madonna isn’t too slack, like some 63deg HA bikes out there. It works for the gnarly stuff and an occasional excursion to some XC terrain.
Especially if you fit an air shock with a good pedal lever.
Just fit a faster rear tire.
If you go park riding, put some DH rubber on :)
@@erdgeschichten4937 what a quick feedback thanks . My dilema it's between the transition sentinel or the Madonna . Regarding trails don't worry are steeps and chunky enough . I want also the bike to be able for long days on the mountain and in the Summer 1 per week bikepark . Do you thing the madonna can do that ? Cheers man
@@rodolforubio1824 I find the Madonna very comfortable. It is not super quick to accelerate, but for all-day efforts, where endurance is more important than flat-out speed, I find it very enjoyable.
I rode the Sentinel (alloy and carbon as well) for a couple of hours. While it is nice, it is not much different in the climbing department. Because it has more travel, the Madonna has more security/comfort when needed.
If you want the Madonna to behave more like the sentinel, put an additional spacer in the air shock. You'll use less travel and get a bit more pop. If you go on a park holiday, take it out and enjoy full travel.
Quite a couple of my friends also had different reliability / quality issues with their Transition frames. The ones with a receipt got warranty replacements or comparable service, which is good. But it would be even better, if they hadn´t needed to in the first place.
I don´t get why you should settle for less travel, when the bike is going to be heavy and slow because of soft rubber / tires anyway.
If you need to make things "fun" because of too easy trails, light trail bikes with sketchy tires are more fun anyway ;-)
@@necessaryjunk Done bro .
I just bought the Madonna on black size large. I will let know
Cheers man
@@rodolforubio1824 You'll have lots of fun with that bike! Enjoy!
Hey Franz. cool bike and review. i still haven't seen one around BC but there surely must be a few. i went through a couple bikes and ended up on a RM Slayer last year. i feel about it as you feel about this. it has a very large sweet spot with the Ride 4 and i find it fine for even regular xc trails (in the steepest setting). the coil suspension is brilliant and with a Sprindex i can dial in traction and feel on the fly. it's the best climber i've owned and descender by far. sometimes i don't need all that suspension horsepower but it's easier on my body. it doesn't make riding easier, but more fun and less violent on the back and knees, important as i move into the mid 50's.
Hey James! Thanks for the kind words! At your height the benefits of proper sizing must be even more pronounced!
The Slayer is also aesthetically pleasing, a beautiful bike.
I’ve read in the news about incredible heat spells in BC. I hope you are well!
@@necessaryjunk i never thought i'd experience 40° in my life. 46 in some places. it was scary, i'm glad it's over!
Scary! 46deg sound more like tropic desert and not like BC rain forest…
Hey Danke dir für das Review! Verkürzt mir die Wartedauer auf das V2.2 ;)
Sehr gerne! Du wirst das Rad lieben! Je nachdem, was du vorher gefahren bist, erfordert es etwas Umgewöhnung, aber mit der Zeit wirst du mehr und mehr Details finden, die einfach toll sind. Das Ding ist nicht für eine Saison konstruiert oder zum in der Garage verstauben, sondern echt für Spaß im Wald! Und V2.2 finde ich (auf den Bildern) nochmals als deutlichen Sprung nach vorne. Hoffentlich kommt deines pünktlich =)
@@necessaryjunk Bin vorher das Yeti Sb150 gefahren. Nach einem Jahr war der Infinity Switch gebrochen (fahre aber auch fast jeden Tag).Warte jetzt seit 10 Wochen auf Ersatz. Das war auch der Grund wieso ich auf Bestellen gedrückt habe :D Und freut mich das du bestätigen kannst dass das Bike lange hält! Hab den Express Versand gewählt und hoffe das ich nächste Woche das Bike aufbauen kann :)
great review enjoyed watching keep it up!
gratulation zu dem tollen video und vielen Dank!
fahre etwas gleich lang und wir haben auch die selbe reichweite auf dem bike ;).
fahre nun mein scott genius 27.5 in die 9. Saison... nun möchte ich mir ein raaw zulegen. in meiner natur liegt wohl eher das jibb, das v2.2 sieht schön aus aber scheint mir ultra lang. warst du testfahren?
tolle parts hast du am bike. wo liegt das gesamtgewicht?
Vielen Dank!
Ich war vorher bei Raaw im Allgäu, weil ich sogar zwischen XL und L überlegt hatte. XL wäre gar nicht abwegig, bin ich seither auch immer wieder bei Freunden gefahren, die auch Raaws haben. Aber L war dann doch viel harmonischer und behält noch viel Wendigkeit bei.
Das Jibb ist bestimmt auch toll, die meisten Features bzgl Haltbarkeit und Design sind ja vergleichbar.
Ich genieße jedoch den Federweg bergab sehe und bergauf stört er mich überhaupt nicht. Und wir gleich groß sind, ist das V2.2 in L fast noch kompakt!
Mein Bike liegt je nach Reifen um 15,8-16kg laut meiner Waage, die aber nicht sehr genau ist.
Auf dem Trail ist das Gewicht nicht störend finde ich, bergab teilweise sogar angenehm…
@@necessaryjunk Danke für dein Feedback, schätze ich sehr. Auf den Hometrails und bergab würde mich das Gewicht bestimmt auch nicht stören, es hilft vor allem beim tracking der Räder. Doch für Hochturen ist das Mehrgewicht schon eine Bank. Hat mich schon verblüfft bei der top Ausstattung die du da hast es doch so hoch geht. Für mich sind beide Rahmen "a piece of art"!
Danke für das super Video,
warum warst du mit dem Coil-Dämpfer nicht so zufrieden? Denkst du der hinterbau ist dafür zu wenig progressiv? Bin nämlich am überlegen ob Öhlins Coil oder Air.
Besten Dank :-)
Hi,
also nicht zufrieden ist relativ zu sehen. Der Super Deluxe Coil hat völlig zufriedenstellend funktioniert. Mit der korrekten Federhärte habe ich auch keine harten Durchschläge gespürt.
Allerdings fand ich den Funktionsvorteil bezüglich Gegenhalt und Sensibilität gegenüber dem DPX2 als sehr gering.
Dafür fehlte mir bergauf die richtig feste Plattform, die der DPX2 bietet. Die braucht man zwar nicht dringend, aber beim Kilometer/Höhenmeterfressen bringt das schon was über einen ganzen Tag verteilt, weil man so ein wenig variieren kann, wie weit das Rad hinten in den Federweg einsackt beim Pedalieren an Steilstücken. Und der DPX2 ist ne Ecke leichter. (Habe ich nicht großartig gemerkt.)
Der Öhlins Coil soll bergab deutlich leistungsfähiger machen, verschiebt das ganze Rad aber etwas in die Gravity-Richtung. Ich bin ihn nicht selbst gefahren, das ist nur Hörensagen von Ruben (dem glaube ich).
Ich bin aber weder so schwer, noch so krass unterwegs, dass ich das bräuchte.
Aber ausprobieren würde ich den Öhlins schon gerne mal!
@@necessaryjunk Herzlichen Dank für die ausführliche Antwort. :-)
@@matthiasbraun3911 Mittlerweile bin ich auch den Öhlins Coil in meinem eigenen Rad gefahren. Die Performance ist echt krass gut. Echt unglaublich, was da nochmal an Grip dazukommt. Bergauf geht er okay. Ich schwanke dennoch und habe aktuell wieder den DPX2 drin, weil der einfach insgesamt spritziger ist und auch damit die Madonna eigentlich alles leistet, was ich mir zutraue und was ich kann. Bergauf bieten mir die Drei Modi vom DPX2 mehr, als mir die Zusatzperformance vom Coil bergab gibt. Ich werde beide Dämpfer behalten und nach Lust und Laune wechseln. Geht ja zum Glück schnell. Wer größtenteils bergab unterwegs ist, der muss den Öhlins Coil mal testen. Krasses Ding.
Hi mate great review!! Do you notice any break jack at all? And how well does the suspension handle sqaure edge impacts? Cheers
Hi!
Basically no noticeable brake jack, compared to several other bikes I’ve ridden, the Madonna stays very active under braking. Also the square edge performance is very good. Especially with a shock with not too much compression damping.
I’ve ridden two high pivot bikes, which are supposed to be exceptional in this regard. (Kavenz VHP 16 and a vintage Yeti Freeride bike)
I don’t feel that the Madonna gives up much in terms of the suspension staying active and moving mostly „free“ of the chain and pedal forces.
But it does so without the added complication of idlers, added drag, long chains etc.
Make no mistake, it isn’t a wonderbike, but a very well executed four bar design.
I find that for extended, long climbs a shock with a pedal platform lever increases efficiency quite a bit.
Some don’t care, but on gravel or pavement it helps imho.
The advantage is that once you open the shock, it’s really active. You’ll notice the incredible amount of traction this bike offers everytime it’s wet, greasy, icy, rooty or dusty.
On a short travel bike I’d trade some traction for in-built pedaling efficiency in the linkage design, but on long travel applications I find active suspension with a „cheater“ lever a very convenient solution.
@necessaryjunk Thanks mate. I'm currently on a multi link single pivot suspension design bike. Although it's very poppy and playful it's suffers from break jack significantly and square edge impacts are quite noticeable. I'm was tempted to try out a high pivot bike but some suffer from break jack being single pivots and I also didn't want to lose all the playfulness from a standard low pivot design.
The Madonna is very tempting especially being able to swap between 160mm and 171mm travel via shock stroke. She's also a stunner
@@keeran450
I also own a Last Tarvo, which is a flex pivot sort of single pivot linkage enduro with similar geometry and travel to the Madonna. I bought it in January slightly used, to see if the 2kg frame weight difference would make a big difference. Actually with the same tires and components I don‘t notice much. What I did notice was a much more compromised rear suspension action, like you describe.
I‘ve since put s different rocker link on the Tarvo. It is now a 145mm Cinto with lighter duty tires and 3cm less fork travel. I love it in this guise, but as a enduro rig, for tough trails I dont‘t want a compromised performance for a little weight savings.
The Madonna also warrants proper gravity tires, as long as one is fit to pedal these drags around, it is a lovely bike.
Hi,
Great review.
Would you recommend this bike to someone with beginner-intermediate skills?
Some local blue trails are pretty steep on some sections.
Also occasional bike park visits.
Hi! Thanks!
What´s your goal? If you mostly want to stick to blue trails, get something lighter, like an Ibis Ripmo (AF) or similar. The Madonna is manageable on blue trails, but once you progress enough, it´s going to be less entertaining than a 150mm bike.
But if your goal is to ride black trails some time in the nearer future, get a Madonna ;-)
Cheers
The idea is that I would ride red trails with more comfort and confidence. That is the goal.
Blacks would maybe come in later if they would not be brutal ;)
@@MarioB-xx8mk Where are you riding? Where are your trails? The ratings are much different in my experience. If you are in British Columbia, France or the Alps, you'll have fun on red trails with a Madonna. If you are in Italy or Germany, you'll be better of with a lighter duty bike...
I know blues an reds can differ from trail center to trail center and from country to country.
I am from europe, so alps and Italy, Austria and Germany etc are all in my near vicinity.
How is the balance of the bike? Does it require to additionaly weight front end in corners?
Is it forgiving if you make a mistake?
Thank you!
Super review. I love Raaw Madonna but at 1,85 m height, 1,80 m arm span and 90 cm inseam i'm between size L and XL. What is your advice which size should I choose:-)
Hi!
I am 1,83m, have a 1,90m arm span and 92cm inseam. I love the fit of the Large with a 40mm stem and 20mm riser bar and a centimeter of spacers. It is not too big and not too small. Stable, but also manageable.
You could make it feel quite a bit bigger with a 30mm riser, no spacers and or a 50mm stem.
I also have ride time on an XL with a 30mm and a 50mm stem and different bar configurations. It is rideable for me, but I definitely prefer the large!
I think the large one would be the better fit for you.
@@necessaryjunk great. Time to buy Raaw😁
Great review. Thank you. I’m also on the fence, but 188cm tall, 198cm arm span and very long legs also. I think it puts me in xl territory
Yes sir! Heidelberg ist der optimale Spielplatz für die Karre. Kannsch nix saage :-)
Great video and awesome bike !
Can you tell me where did you buy that bearing press and what is brand of it. Thanks!
Hi, thank you very much!
The press is from reset-racing.de
It is very nice and well made. You will need a 28mm driver as well. For the 52mm I use a cheap tool from Acros made of plastic originally intended for pressing in headset cups.
Raaw just came out with their own bearing tool as well de.raawmtb.com/collections/accessories/products/bearing-tool
I don‘t have first hand experience with that though.
Great work, killer vid man . Is there a US market ?
Thanks a lot for the feedback!
I think there is:
nsmb.com/articles/raaw-bikes-now-available-canada-usa/
@@necessaryjunk yes sir and keep ripping , thanks man💪
Hi . top review. Thanks. Würdest du aufgrund des Gewichtes das Bike für Alpine Tage (Up- and Downhill) empfehlen? Immerhin schiebt man das Bike machmal. (oder wenigstens ich :) . Danke !
Hi,
also Schieben ist kein Problem.
Das Rad ist nicht leicht, weil der Rahmen Gewicht hat. Aber wenn du sonst leichte Komponenten nimmst, alles prima. Bergauf treten lässt es sich sehr gut. Schieben geht auch.
Tragen, da merkt man die 500-1000g Mehrgewicht gegenüber manchen anderen 29er-Enduros vielleicht mehr?
Aber andererseits ist das Rad unempfindlich gegenüber Steinen etc im Vergleich zu ausgereizten Leichtbaurädern.
Insgesamt ist natürlich für manche Dinge ein leichtes Rad mit etwas weniger Federweg effizienter, aber da hat man bergab halt direkt wieder Kompromisse bei Reifen etc.
Also - ohne Frage wären 2kg weniger toll, aber statt Kompromisse bei der Haltbarkeit, Geometrie oder Fahrwerk nehme ich die mittlerweile in Kauf.
Ich habe aktuell sogar einen Coil-Dämpfer drin und finde es dennoch okay…
Sehr informativ! Ist das dein Do-It-All-Bike?
Hi, dankeschön für das Feedback! Ich bin 1,83m groß. In der Beschreibung zum Video stehen noch ein paar Zusatzinfos. Und ich nutze die Madonna für alle möglichen Sachen. Ich habe mir Anfang des Jahres noch ein Orbea Occam Trailbike gekauft, falls an der Madonna mal ein längerfristiger Defekt auftritt. Aber das habe ich nur ganz wenige Fahrten genutzt bisher. Die Madonna taugt mir mehr…
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Hallo,
Super review. Raaw sollte dich anstellen ;)
Ich bin mit 187 zwischen l/xl. Was wäre deine Empfehlung? Fahre momentan ein bike mit 480 reach, aber 75 sitzwinkel. Befürchte das L im sitzen zu kurz wäre, obwohl ich ein wendiges Bike bevorzuge.
Beste Grüsse
Hi,
vielen Dank für das tolle Feedback!
Ich denke, das kommt auf deine Armlänge und Beinlänge an. Tendenziell sehe ich dich aber klar auf XL.
Ich finde mit 1,83m und langen Armen Größe Large mit 40er Vorbau ziemlich perfekt, aber kleiner dürfte es definitiv nicht sein. Sicher könntest du mit einem 50er Vorbau und einem hohen Lenker (damit du keinen Reach durch Spacer verlierst) auch mit L glücklich werden. Aber das wird dann schon ziemlich kompakt / zu klein sein für dich, je nach Fahrweise und Trailvorliebe.
Ein Freund, mit dem ich oft fahre, 1,86 und lange Arme und Beine, fährt V2 in XL. Wenn der auf meinem L fährt, ist das ziemlich eindeutig zu klein. Ich kann sein XL gut fahren, aber es ist dann schon ein großes Rad, passt aber noch ganz gut für mich.
Eindeutig falsch ist für dich sicher keine Größe. Wenn du ein irre guter Fahrer bist, sehr gut trainierte Rücken- und Torsomuskulatur hast, überall abspringst, per Nosewheelie um Spitzkehren fährst, extrem (also schwere EWS-Etappen) technisches, verwinkeltes Gelände schnellstmöglich durchfahren willst und deine Fahrtechnik richtig gut ist du und auf das "ich-fliege-nicht-über-den-Lenker-Sicherheitsgefühl" in einem gewissen Grad verzichten kannst. Dann kaufe dir ein Large.
Ansonsten nimm einfach XL und freue dich, dass du sicherer, schneller und dadurch letztlich souveräner und verspielter durch alle Szenarien biken wirst. Eine Madonna in XL ist im Vergleich zu Rädern vor ein paar Jahren ein großes Rad. Aber bei 1,87m letztlich überhaupt nicht riesig oder unhandlich, sondern einfach passen.
Grüße
F
@@necessaryjunk Hey, danke für die ausführliche Antwort. Ich hab mal bisi gerechnet. Im sitzen wäre das L tatsächlich viel zu kurz. Hab meine Bestellung auf XL geändert. War ein guter Tipp.
Ride on ✌🏻
Servus,
Ich bin wirklich mega interessiert am Madonna und finde es ein mega Rad, hab aber noch bzgl. Des Gewichts Bedenken.
Denkst du, dass damit auch 1500hm am Stück möglich sind ?
Hi,
ich mache regelmäßig sogar mehr. Meiner Ansicht nach kein Problem. Mein Rad wiegt 15,4kg so wie im Video zu sehen. Mir ist das zwar egal, aber ein Freund hat es vor kurzem unbedingt wiegen wollen :)
Vor allem die Perfekte Sitzposition ist für mich aber bedeutsamer. Und ein Dämpfer mit einem Climbswitch hilft auch sehr für steile Asphaltstücke. Muss kein Lockout sein, einfach eine Plattform.
had a madonna v2, rode it 1 week, sold it straight away, bought a norco sight instead. Now i'm happy. The reason? 17.3kg with a coil, a cushcore and pedals...Ridiculous
Yeah, the weight can be an issue. I only notice it in a bad way when I swap often between my light trail bike. It’s mainly dependent on tires for me though.
3-4kgs less for the whole system with the same durability would be fantastic, but not even a third of that is the frame itself. Durable 29er Enduro parts are not light and add up.
I’d love to try the Last Bikes Tarvo for a couple of weeks, even though I don’t love the geometry 100%…
Do you know the weight of the bike in your setup?
Unfortunately I only had it on a semi-accurate scale. It hovers right under 16 kg - depends on tires. You’ll not manage to get it much lighter than that though. For my 75kg it’s a reasonable weight. For my wife with 55kgs it would be a handful…
@@necessaryjunk Nice. 16 kg. Spot on