Not only did they get advertising but an experienced engineer to Research and Develop the hell out of their product lol. Hopefully they make that change on the air line routing
These jacks would be a perfect solution for my limited space. Love the mods you did to eliminate the hose pinch. Not sure why they used the air fittings they did, but easy to overcome with the universal female quick coupler. I think I need one of these for Christmas!
You made some excellent changes to those jacks. You should send your video to the manufacturer with recommendations for changes. You would be doing future air jack buyers everywhere a great favor.
Just reporting that after getting my 3T version in white(cheapest color) for like 81 dollars after Doug’s discount it works great. I took my tiny air compressor and with only 100psi jacket up my wife’s RAV 4 with ease. You do not need an expensive air compressor to use this Air Jack. They even changed the handle design. I love it. We will see if it holds up. Thanks again Doug!
I have the fixed handle version that doesn't fold, so it sidesteps the hose pinch issue. The only thing I did on mine was to increase the diameter of the wheels to allow the jack to roll with a slight lift of the handle rather than needing to drag the base on the pavement. What they should have done is use spring loaded wheels that can support the weight of the jack to roll, but then automatically retract when the weight of the vehicle is added. Something like a kick and glide step stool that roll but plant on the ground when stepped on.
@@Brian-Outdoors I increased the diameter of my wheels by wrapping them with an old bicycle tire tube until it could roll with the slightest angle on the handle, but it'd be nice if someone had wheel replacements with the right diameter for it.
easy fix, I ran the airline around the side then into the slot, put a spring on it for protection works a treat and dosen't get caught up on anything... going to extend the handle by 30cm though, just a bit short to reach under my truck, an Isuzu NPR400, brilliant jack to lift with ease instead of the bottle jack
Good honest review. This made me think of the older commercials on TV. "BASF we don't make the products you buy, we make the products you buy, better" here, at one eye customs we fix the engineers screw ups, and make the process better 🤣
*This is the first deep review i have found on these. I think you did a great job modifying them and i totally agree with your input on the wobble. Ill be unboxing mine soon. I got 2 vehicles due for service* Dexterous X
Nice review Doug...not everyone has the common sense to look at a product and say I can improve this. I truly hope that other companies start sending you products to review.
The hose pinch thing is exactly what sets harbor freight tools apart in my opinion. The base of the tools like this are good for the money but there seems to always be some small improvement or mod to make them good long term. I know this isn't from HF but it made for a good example. When you were demonstrating the issue I had the same thing in mind with the notch you did. Good review/first use Doug.
That kinda makes me happy I got the cheaper lower end version that has a fixed position handle rather than the adjustable one, if that avoids the issue altogether.
Seems as they forgot to fully engineer it and material procurement was off a bit. I’m thinking - what did they miss you can not see. You put a ton of work in to correct their oversights.
First time seeing this video and I have to share that it was all-encompassing honestly It wasn't just a product review; you took the time to truly deep dive into these products and figured out that they needed to be improved and you created that amazing improvement that the company should incorporate into the new VEVOR DOUG Edition! That is truly astounding Doug honestly. Plus I love the fact that you strongly push safety and that no one should work under a car using these bladder jacks alone, and that these jacks are to lift your car nice and fast and easily but you need to secure your vehicle with good floor jacks, great stuff! Curious about the life of the rubber that makes up the bladder and the quality of the air hose and if it should be replaced after a few years. Thank you, Doug and outstanding forensic review for sure!
I was wondering if anyone's had these long enough to have a spontaneous loss of bladder control. Not sure if there's any way to safeguard against it happening in use; maybe periodic overpressure checks taking it to the pop off pressure to get some pre warning of bladder degradation. I haven't seen any reports of them failing though, but I can't imagine that it's not an eventuality.
Your NPT (which is national pipe TAPER) fitting will fit into that NPS (straight) valve. Just use tape on the threads. The one looks like it came with an "M" fitting (the smaller one), and the other came with a "V" (aka Milton Hi-Flow). You appear to have "T" around your shop.
The Type "M" Air fitting in Your right hand is the No.1 most common in use. These would work great on soft ground where a wheeled Floor Jack has issues, Like My place at the moment The Problem with the width is I need room to get the jack stands in place. And I do not like lifting My 8'200 lb truck by the Differential. With these I could lift the truck with the Floor jack and put the Air jack under the tire (Brakes set) so I can get a Jack stand in place. Thanks Doug. Mike M.
Five stars and two thumbs up! I just bought the smaller unit and i was about to pull mine from the box... now I know there are Doug's recommendations to consider before use! Thanks
Man you should send your modifications to the company. Maybe they could give you some kind of kick back. Good find and nice engineering. McGyver strikes again!!
I recently purchased the 6Ton jack with wheels and noticed a big change in the bracket connecting the jack to the handle. The open slots now have a piece of metal outside of them and they include a spring to go over the air hose with a pinch area would be. I also noticed earlier handles had the locking knob welded on and mine has a bolt that goes straight through. I haven’t yet verified the compressor connections, being consistent, or being various sizes.
My one complaint about these is the collapsed height is taller than my HF Daytona 3 ton low profile jack. These are 5.7" vs the 3.25" of the Daytona. 2.5" doesn't sound like much until you try to get under something like a 2000 Toyota Camry, which has 5.2" ground cleanance.
To avoid pinch points, why not replace the two lock nuts and bolts with smooth cap bolts instead? Thread them from the other side with the smooth part on top.
Excellent fix on the handle hose problem. I wasted over an hour yesterday trying the various combinations to no avail. Also I discovered the straight thread issue with the air inlet fitting. I found that the universal coupler on my air house would fit They need to hire a good translator for the assembly instructions or just use good drawings. I was missing some nuts in my bag. Metric nylocks lol. Did you end up having to cut your hose to length ? Did you have to cut the hose to fit too ?.
But would you recommend it for a guy like me who can't do the mods to make it work that you did? I can do the universal connector, but I don't really have the grinding capabilities you do. A thought for a future video from a beginner at-home auto work would be how to and where to place jacks on your vehicle and things to make sure you know before you start doing your own home auto work. Great video!
@mark johnson I would recommend it but with one caution, just make sure you keep an eye on that hose when moving the handle to different positions. It that hose gets cut, it could cause severe damage or injury. Knowing it can pinch is the important part, keeping it from pinching is the fix. Best of luck and thanks for watching!
Great video Doug. Thanks for the tips on making it better. How much air pressure does it need to work and the volume it uses? Can you use a small portable compressor that you inflate your tires? If so, it's small and compact to carry to change your tire.
I just took my tiny Fini 125psi air compressor with it set to 100psi on my 3T version of this air jack I just bought and it jacked up my wife’s Toyota RAV 4 with ease and never cycled the air compressor till I jacked it up a third time. So uses almost no air volume. They even changed the handle style and it was on sale for 81 dollars with Doug’s discount. I did have to clean up some of the edges as this appears to be straight out of China.
I would buy one of the high capacity ones if they implemented all the improvements you made. I have seen similar one's and had thought about it. Could use a cordless 18V air compressor as well I think rather than shop air.
Why cant younmake few simple improvements yourself? Instead of the hole saw you can use a drill with 1/2 drill bit, drilling one inch from the edge. Then use grinder with a cutoff wheel and cut on the angle so that you have slit opening which expands. The rest is just few bolts...
I've come back to this video, I'm planning to get the 5 ton, likely will make the same modifications and then some. I have since installed a large commercial 4-post lift but it didn't come with bridge jacks but I don't think I want bridge jacks because they take up space on the lift and my lift is also used as storage. Would be nice if these air bag jacks also had a locking mechanism so you didn't need stands.
I work out of my driveway doing brakes and winter tire switches, I can't believe I didn't buy one sooner. So far its worked perfectly. I did put a very hard rubber pad on top that I had laying around, this has worked great and I hope it lasts my hydraulic jacks are collecting dust
Yep, same Bought 5ton on amazon 2 days ago when it was on sale for $143. Still same price, just makes it easier to return of I dont like it vs manufacturer website
I opted for a 3 ton Vevor from their website, $104 shipped; just to try the concept. From what it seems, the air bladder is actually doing the lifting, and not some internal column as someone commented on in another video. I was wondering what kind of indication there would be down the line as the end of service life is reached, that it needs to be retired. Is there any advance notice that it's about to go, such as stiffening or hardening of the rubber, or dry rot cracking? Or is it something that might just suddenly let go with a bang with a lifted vehicle?
The manufacturer of the air bags should hire you to do their R & D! I can see the usefulness of these, but as you showed, they should have done more refinement of them before releasing them. Those pinch points would have bothered me as well. And yes, your "cream" of fabbing those handles "rose to the top" again! I'm envious of your fabrication skills. Yes, I see these as being useful, but I don't think that they're "quite there yet", and for now I still prefer my long-reach, high-lift floor jacks. I don't need to use a block of wood to help raise my vehicle, which I view as sketchy, although I do do it when necessary.
The weight on the rear axle of my 3500 Express conversion van is about 6000 lb. Do you think the 3 ton Vevor jack would lift it? I like the smaller size of the 3-ton unit. Would you be able to load up one of your vehicles to check it out???
my question for you is how do you store your jack stands when they're not in use? I feel like there's an easy solution for my problem considering I've got 12 jack stands some stay under vehicles all winter long and some are just for oil changes, changing tires etc. I look forward to your reply on this one! I will be definitely picking one of these jacks up! thanks again for the helpful videos.
@Vic Swanby I have 8 Jack stands and when they are not used, I have a spot in my garage that they hang on the wall. Keep in mind there is only one way they can be hung, from the release lever. At some point, I may show them in a video. Good luck and Happy New Year!
I see they already changed the design to a fixed handle on the website which should work. In changing the handle they had to change the base too so you can stand it on end now to hide the jack away when not in use. Great review and modifications Doug! What kind of air requirements are on these air jacks? I would hate to have to pull out my larger compressor every time I needed to jack something up.
It'd be interesting to see if an air storage tank could supply enough air to do a lift. Figure how much air is required by seeing how much the tank pressure drops from a single lift.
@@sadfur8728 I bought a 3T version and it works with 100psi on my tiny air compressor. It even did 2 lifts in a row of my wife’s Toyota RAV4 before the compressor kicked on again.
@@Brian-Outdoors I'm going to measure the air pressure required for the lift of my car, which would be dependent on the weight of the car. Wondering if it could serve as a rough scale for heavy loads.
If it's at all indicative of the weight of the lift, I'm going to tee in a pressure gauge on the release valve side so as to give an indication of the force being applied. It would be nice if they included it at manufacture either way. I did try releasing the air through the inlet valve after disconnecting the air line, and it seemed to work almost the same as through the diffuser restriction of the release valve, just quicker. The actual pressure during lift is in the range of 40 to 50 psi for the two vehicles I tried, for the 3 Ton version I have. I have to try it with some heavier and lighter ones to better compare.
I may just replace the release valve with a pressure gauge instead of teeing it in, as it's easy enough just disconnecting the air line and releasing it through the inlet valve when done, and the blow off valve could also be used to bleed some off for fine adjustment if it went over. I'd also add some nylon runners underneath the lift plate because it gets all scratched up otherwise when sliding it around under the car, no need to promote rust from that if it can be avoided.
DOUG, companies that send you products to try out are getting free R&D along with advertising ! I'm sure they will 'up their game' in the instruction manual and product now! Good Stuff!!!
I just got one of these ! It's a 3 ton , But it's not the red or blue one ! It's the one that is cream colored & has a tubular handle from the base to the top were the control valves are that stays in a fixed position ! There is no binding or kinking of the feeder line inside the tube because the tube remains in a fixed position ! & IMHO this model is the best design or turn key right out of the box that requires no modifications at all ! & the only drawback is it only comes in the 3 ton , & not in the 5 ton ( blue ) But it is better than the 3 ton one ( red ) I do like the mods You made on both of them ! I believe that's called reverse engineering ? Either way You made a improvement on those 2 models IMO . Thanks for the video .
Kinda hard to see engineering flaws when you order on line. I think I'd get some air bags off of a semi trailer and build a super heavy duty lift. Maybe run the hose through pvc tubing and mount it to the outside of the square tubing.
Do those poly propylene floor tiles get indented from the sharp edge base of the jack stands? I was considering getting the Vevor tiles but wondering if they could hold to to the extreme pressure without using an additional plate to distribute the force.
It looks like your shop male couplings use a tapered thread, presumably 1/4". The supplied ones are parallel. A tapered into a parallel will seal on the threads, whereas parallel into parallel will not, and requires a face seal. Engineering-wise, face seals are probably better, but for airlines personally I have had the most luck just using quality tapered fittings (and discarding the supplied Universal ones)
If both the 3 and 5 ton models have nearly the same lift height, was there a situation where the 3 ton was unable to lift what the 5 ton was able to? The wider footprint of the 5 ton would be a drawback if it added nothing that was necessary to do the job.
the bottle jack I use to lift my truck goes up straight, makes no difference as long as you place the jack correctly, shouldn't tip unless you don't know what you're doing
@@stevehicks5735 it is a round bump stop puck from my Jeep. (Extras I had) 3 stacked together. I don’t recommend doing that because they can slip. So I ordered a couple 3” diameter Jack pad risers that are 3” tall. I bolted one to the top of each Jack. You can find them on Amazon.
So I see your organization of tools and equipment but something I am trying to do currently is organize my consumables. example grinding/cut off /sanding wheels and other items that I would like to keep visible to see inventory. Any ideas ????
I wish I had a better idea for you. I have two drawers in my toolbox. One is for the die grinder flap disks and cut off wheels. Pretty much anything I have for big grinding snd sanding. The other is for my smaller cordless cut off and die grinder stuff along with carbide burrs and consumables like that. For me, that was too much to try to have hanging up in the shop. Sorry I couldn’t help more.
@@OneEyeCustoms I appreciate the reply wasn’t expecting it, I think I came up with an idea I hope to building on the plasma table here soon will share when completed thanks again !
Now go buy or if you have plastic door guard strip material put it on your hole sawed half moons at the bottom and at the top where it exits the box tube from the elongated hole, with that there's no way you'll puncture the air hose tube. Seriously I thing pex tube would work better and its rated for high presure more so then that tube is.
Well ya seeeeee, it was a couple of left over rubber bump stops from my Jeep project. I don’t recommend using them, they are too narrow. I did later on, order jack specific rubber spacer. It’s a bit safer.
Yeah. You create a video to make money and content but you're too lazy to include the specs. You're not very good at this youtube thing. @@OneEyeCustoms
@@fiouable you seam to have missed the point of the collaboration. It is to get people interested in the product and steer them towards their web site. They have so many models of these that the specs change for each one. You need to determine which one would work best for you from YOUR research. You call me lazy but you can’t even go to the web site and look it up… that’s the pot calling the kettle black… I hope your day gets better because you were obviously bitter when you posted this comment. Sorry, have a good day!
what's the dia on those bags? I have one without the long handle, has two handlebars on it, has 10 1/2" bag dia - 3 ton.... yours looks smaller. wondering if they downsized 3 ton bag. 10 1/2" deflated
@@OneEyeCustoms ok I have 2 with handlebars 10 1/2 I guess cus there diff model who know probable shaved 1/2 to save cost. I'm buying one with round fixed handle I'll check that one out.
It says in a comment on their web site it weighs 23kg or 51lbs for the blue 5 ton unit. Not sure if that is correct but it has to be close to that. The red one would be around 30 lbs I believe.
Very good review, Doug. I'd be like you with that tube pinching issue. I'd modify it similarly. I'm too anal. Don't have enuf use to justify a purchase like that but you have lots more equipment than me so it makes more sense for your situation. Wondering if you could have simply swapped out the ball valves on those vs adding disconnects to accommodate your air system??
Thing is if it leans forward as the vehicle goes up then the center of gravity has moved away from the base of the air jack. Thus is is no longer lifting from the center of gravity. To risky as far as I am concerned.
It is far from better than a jack. 1. Smaller lifting range. 2.Larger height when fully compressed meaning you won't be able to get it under some cars. Don't get me wrong I love mine, but it will never completely replace my floor jack. That said I am thinking about getting another, these work best in pairs.
Wrong on all counts. Just watched another video of this and the guy had it side by side with a regular floor jack and a low profile and this was lower than even the low profile when compressed.
@@jerometruitt2731 This is from Vevor: Min height 5.3inches Maximum height 15.75 in. Lifting range= 15.75-5.3=10.45 inches. Here are the specs from Harbor Freight and their low profile jack. Min height = 3.3 inches Maximum height =24.25 inches Lifting range = 24.25-3.3 = 20.95 Or about 2x the lifting range of an air bag. Now lets looks at the minimum 5.3 vs 3.3 about 40% lower for the jack. Would you like to walk it back now or just look stupid?
Wise mechanics stock quality brass chucks and nipples ahead of time as they're so inexpensive even if you buy Milton. I previously made a bag jack from an 18-wheeler suspension bag to raise and shift my 40' shipping containers while expanding my shop (suspension bags do NOT have internals to limit sideways travel but there are videos to address that, I wanted the movement for that job) which worked flawlessly but Vevors are so inexpensive it's not worth fabbing smaller sizes except for mechanics who have bags handy. When jacking anything of size I do like first responders and "capture progress" with wooden cribbing and old alloy rims laid on their sides which is stable even on dirt (which is why so many salvage yards use steel rims, but alloy is much nicer to lift). BTW if you use a CO2 cylinder like off-roaders do for tires they work great for inflating the Vevor or other bag jack. I have CO2 anyway for welding and mobile tire topoff so the Vevor lets me swap trailer tires etc in the field using the same CO2 I inflate them with.
The adjustable handles are a pain, I removed the 2 bolts that mount the hinge to the plate and welded the hinge, I drilled a hole in the handle and bolted it in the flat down position permanently. There is no need for the handle to move. I have one with the non-adjustable handle and I should have gotten another one the same. The folding handle is a shit design.
they are a jack. you are to use supports after you raise it up but like everyone, some will use as a jack stand and get hurt. they are airbags, not steel. air will move with force. you have to be smarter than what you're working with.
@@OneEyeCustoms just in general. As you probably know there are many people out there don’t use things as they should, I for one. I have figured out though that you don’t get under heavy things with support other than a jack. Vehicles coming off a jack and falling on you is going to really hurt.
@@jeffhudson1744 I had a friend get killed by a truck that fell on him from not having Jack stands so I’m pretty strict on that one. Thanks for watching and the comments.
Hope you like it, be careful and always use Jack stands!!! There is a bit of a learning curve with them, but they are very handy and much quicker! Don’t forget to shut off the air valve before hooking up the air supply. If you don’t, you will get an unexpected rise out of it. 😜
@@OneEyeCustoms Well, all assembled. I also modified, trimmed out the pinch point of the airline. The whole unit is a bear to move around with the wheels being so small. I've been considering putting on larger wheels (3") which should still give enough clearance off the floor when flat.
@@OneEyeCustoms Well, I ended up picked up 2 - 4" pvc swivel caster wheels (blue to match lift) from Harbor Freight, for 3.99 each. Had to drill out rivet to remove from caster, works perfectly.
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Excellent review, Doug. "There has to be a better way" shows up in almost every video. Keep up the good work.
Not only did they get advertising but an experienced engineer to Research and Develop the hell out of their product lol. Hopefully they make that change on the air line routing
@Hometown Acres I just can’t leave well enough alone…. There’s got to be a better way!
We altered the route when we bought some . No problem doing a bit of fettling
These jacks would be a perfect solution for my limited space. Love the mods you did to eliminate the hose pinch. Not sure why they used the air fittings they did, but easy to overcome with the universal female quick coupler. I think I need one of these for Christmas!
You made some excellent changes to those jacks. You should send your video to the manufacturer with recommendations for changes. You would be doing future air jack buyers everywhere a great favor.
One of the best review videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much.
You are welcome!!
Good review Doug! Love how you always have a better way! And you fix it! 👍
Just reporting that after getting my 3T version in white(cheapest color) for like 81 dollars after Doug’s discount it works great. I took my tiny air compressor and with only 100psi jacket up my wife’s RAV 4 with ease. You do not need an expensive air compressor to use this Air Jack. They even changed the handle design. I love it. We will see if it holds up. Thanks again Doug!
@Tree Work 716 is there anywhere that shows in a picture what they did to the handle? Glad it is working well for you!
@@OneEyeCustoms yes I would link it but they remove my links. It is right off your website you link to.
I have the fixed handle version that doesn't fold, so it sidesteps the hose pinch issue.
The only thing I did on mine was to increase the diameter of the wheels to allow the jack to roll with a slight lift of the handle rather than needing to drag the base on the pavement. What they should have done is use spring loaded wheels that can support the weight of the jack to roll, but then automatically retract when the weight of the vehicle is added. Something like a kick and glide step stool that roll but plant on the ground when stepped on.
@@dubmob151 100% agree. I hate the wheels on this Jack. Mine is also a fixed handle.
@@Brian-Outdoors I increased the diameter of my wheels by wrapping them with an old bicycle tire tube until it could roll with the slightest angle on the handle, but it'd be nice if someone had wheel replacements with the right diameter for it.
easy fix, I ran the airline around the side then into the slot, put a spring on it for protection works a treat and dosen't get caught up on anything... going to extend the handle by 30cm though, just a bit short to reach under my truck, an Isuzu NPR400, brilliant jack to lift with ease instead of the bottle jack
Good honest review. This made me think of the older commercials on TV. "BASF we don't make the products you buy, we make the products you buy, better" here, at one eye customs we fix the engineers screw ups, and make the process better 🤣
*This is the first deep review i have found on these. I think you did a great job modifying them and i totally agree with your input on the wobble. Ill be unboxing mine soon. I got 2 vehicles due for service* Dexterous X
Nice review Doug...not everyone has the common sense to look at a product and say I can improve this. I truly hope that other companies start sending you products to review.
The hose pinch thing is exactly what sets harbor freight tools apart in my opinion. The base of the tools like this are good for the money but there seems to always be some small improvement or mod to make them good long term. I know this isn't from HF but it made for a good example. When you were demonstrating the issue I had the same thing in mind with the notch you did. Good review/first use Doug.
By far it is the best video on RUclips for air jack. Thanks so much man
That kinda makes me happy I got the cheaper lower end version that has a fixed position handle rather than the adjustable one, if that avoids the issue altogether.
Seems as they forgot to fully engineer it and material procurement was off a bit. I’m thinking - what did they miss you can not see. You put a ton of work in to correct their oversights.
Very good tutorial for those that are thinking of buying these. And a great looking Element! Thx for sharing.
My pleasure!
First time seeing this video and I have to share that it was all-encompassing honestly
It wasn't just a product review; you took the time to truly deep dive into these products and figured out that they needed to be improved and you created that amazing improvement that the company should incorporate into the new VEVOR DOUG Edition!
That is truly astounding Doug honestly. Plus I love the fact that you strongly push safety and that no one should work under a car using these bladder jacks alone, and that these jacks are to lift your car nice and fast and easily but you need to secure your vehicle with good floor jacks, great stuff!
Curious about the life of the rubber that makes up the bladder and the quality of the air hose and if it should be replaced after a few years.
Thank you, Doug and outstanding forensic review for sure!
And thank you for the kind words!
I was wondering if anyone's had these long enough to have a spontaneous loss of bladder control. Not sure if there's any way to safeguard against it happening in use; maybe periodic overpressure checks taking it to the pop off pressure to get some pre warning of bladder degradation.
I haven't seen any reports of them failing though, but I can't imagine that it's not an eventuality.
Your NPT (which is national pipe TAPER) fitting will fit into that NPS (straight) valve. Just use tape on the threads. The one looks like it came with an "M" fitting (the smaller one), and the other came with a "V" (aka Milton Hi-Flow). You appear to have "T" around your shop.
Thanks for that , I ordered the 5 ton and I will be doing that hack , seems like it should work for long time. Thanks
The Type "M" Air fitting in Your right hand is the No.1 most common in use.
These would work great on soft ground where a wheeled Floor Jack has issues, Like My place at the moment
The Problem with the width is I need room to get the jack stands in place. And I do not like lifting My 8'200 lb truck by the Differential. With these I could lift the truck with the Floor jack and put the Air jack under the tire (Brakes set) so I can get a Jack stand in place.
Thanks Doug.
Mike M.
Five stars and two thumbs up! I just bought the smaller unit and i was about to pull mine from the box... now I know there are Doug's recommendations to consider before use! Thanks
Great review, fabulous mods, & awesome explanation of why the mechanism needs the radial flex.
Thanks for watching!
Really great video, covered all the important points, makes me confident I can get this to work.
Great to hear!
Man you should send your modifications to the company. Maybe they could give you some kind of kick back. Good find and nice engineering. McGyver strikes again!!
Nice Honest Boots on the ground evaluation of these air pressure jacks.
I got around the different air inlet problem. I ran a separate air hose just for the jacks, this also saves time from switching hoses back and forth.
Great idea! Thanks
I've just ordered the smaller unit before watching this vid. I am definitely going to do your mods on the lower handle. Thanks.
@Backyard Projects glad I could help and definitely keep that airline from getting pinched.
Good review video. Jack's look handy and I bet they will last a lot longer after your mod.
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to do this review.
Mine came with the notch at the base of the handle along with a spring to slide over the air line to protect it.
@@bigredjohnson6921 awesome, I hope my video pointed out a potential safety concern and they changed it.
I recently purchased the 6Ton jack with wheels and noticed a big change in the bracket connecting the jack to the handle. The open slots now have a piece of metal outside of them and they include a spring to go over the air hose with a pinch area would be. I also noticed earlier handles had the locking knob welded on and mine has a bolt that goes straight through. I haven’t yet verified the compressor connections, being consistent, or being various sizes.
Maybe they took my advise???
My one complaint about these is the collapsed height is taller than my HF Daytona 3 ton low profile jack. These are 5.7" vs the 3.25" of the Daytona. 2.5" doesn't sound like much until you try to get under something like a 2000 Toyota Camry, which has 5.2" ground cleanance.
or a Corvette or Cadillac XLR.
Only way to work around it is to drive up onto a 2x4 to get enough clearance, assuming the vehicle is still mobile.
To avoid pinch points, why not replace the two lock nuts and bolts with smooth cap bolts instead? Thread them from the other side with the smooth part on top.
Great review and mods! The only thing that I’m gonna do to mine is put a better air line on it. Then it’ll be right on! Thanks again for the video!👊🏼
Excellent fix on the handle hose problem. I wasted over an hour yesterday trying the various combinations to no avail.
Also I discovered the straight thread issue with the air inlet fitting. I found that the universal coupler on my air house would fit
They need to hire a good translator for the assembly instructions or just use good drawings.
I was missing some nuts in my bag. Metric nylocks lol.
Did you end up having to cut your hose to length ?
Did you have to cut the hose to fit too ?.
Yes, I did have to cut the hose to fit.
I don’t remember missing any hardware.
5:00 Hey it's a hocus focus - one handle will allow a four finger hand while the other offers room for a bonus finger. Noticing stuff, my fav pastime
But would you recommend it for a guy like me who can't do the mods to make it work that you did? I can do the universal connector, but I don't really have the grinding capabilities you do. A thought for a future video from a beginner at-home auto work would be how to and where to place jacks on your vehicle and things to make sure you know before you start doing your own home auto work. Great video!
@mark johnson I would recommend it but with one caution, just make sure you keep an eye on that hose when moving the handle to different positions. It that hose gets cut, it could cause severe damage or injury. Knowing it can pinch is the important part, keeping it from pinching is the fix. Best of luck and thanks for watching!
Maybe just put it in the optimum position and tape it so it can't be changed from that angle-
Then there's no worries about chafing rash and itch. ;)
absolutely I'm stealing your idea.
Thank you for that!
You are welcome
Great video Doug. Thanks for the tips on making it better.
How much air pressure does it need to work and the volume it uses? Can you use a small portable compressor that you inflate your tires? If so, it's small and compact to carry to change your tire.
I just took my tiny Fini 125psi air compressor with it set to 100psi on my 3T version of this air jack I just bought and it jacked up my wife’s Toyota RAV 4 with ease and never cycled the air compressor till I jacked it up a third time. So uses almost no air volume. They even changed the handle style and it was on sale for 81 dollars with Doug’s discount. I did have to clean up some of the edges as this appears to be straight out of China.
I would buy one of the high capacity ones if they implemented all the improvements you made. I have seen similar one's and had thought about it. Could use a cordless 18V air compressor as well I think rather than shop air.
Why cant younmake few simple improvements yourself?
Instead of the hole saw you can use a drill with 1/2 drill bit, drilling one inch from the edge. Then use grinder with a cutoff wheel and cut on the angle so that you have slit opening which expands.
The rest is just few bolts...
I've come back to this video, I'm planning to get the 5 ton, likely will make the same modifications and then some. I have since installed a large commercial 4-post lift but it didn't come with bridge jacks but I don't think I want bridge jacks because they take up space on the lift and my lift is also used as storage. Would be nice if these air bag jacks also had a locking mechanism so you didn't need stands.
Great review. You have an amazing set up. Well done.
I work out of my driveway doing brakes and winter tire switches, I can't believe I didn't buy one sooner. So far its worked perfectly. I did put a very hard rubber pad on top that I had laying around, this has worked great and I hope it lasts my hydraulic jacks are collecting dust
Yep, same
Bought 5ton on amazon 2 days ago when it was on sale for $143.
Still same price, just makes it easier to return of I dont like it vs manufacturer website
I opted for a 3 ton Vevor from their website, $104 shipped; just to try the concept. From what it seems, the air bladder is actually doing the lifting, and not some internal column as someone commented on in another video.
I was wondering what kind of indication there would be down the line as the end of service life is reached, that it needs to be retired.
Is there any advance notice that it's about to go, such as stiffening or hardening of the rubber, or dry rot cracking?
Or is it something that might just suddenly let go with a bang with a lifted vehicle?
The manufacturer of the air bags should hire you to do their R & D! I can see the usefulness of these, but as you showed, they should have done more refinement of them before releasing them. Those pinch points would have bothered me as well. And yes, your "cream" of fabbing those handles "rose to the top" again! I'm envious of your fabrication skills. Yes, I see these as being useful, but I don't think that they're "quite there yet", and for now I still prefer my long-reach, high-lift floor jacks. I don't need to use a block of wood to help raise my vehicle, which I view as sketchy, although I do do it when necessary.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
I wonder if you can hit that longer fitting with a grinder.
Should come with both types of fittings
I agree.
My 6 ton unit came with the wheel axle bent. Contacting support provided a $25 discount.
That’s not bad!!
should have had a spring to go on the hose at the bottom of the handle
How about trying it with a 5 gallon air tank.
The weight on the rear axle of my 3500 Express conversion van is about 6000 lb. Do you think the 3 ton Vevor jack would lift it? I like the smaller size of the 3-ton unit. Would you be able to load up one of your vehicles to check it out???
my question for you is how do you store your jack stands when they're not in use? I feel like there's an easy solution for my problem considering I've got 12 jack stands some stay under vehicles all winter long and some are just for oil changes, changing tires etc. I look forward to your reply on this one!
I will be definitely picking one of these jacks up! thanks again for the helpful videos.
@Vic Swanby I have 8 Jack stands and when they are not used, I have a spot in my garage that they hang on the wall. Keep in mind there is only one way they can be hung, from the release lever. At some point, I may show them in a video. Good luck and Happy New Year!
Cool product but I'll stick with my floor jack.
Have a Jesus filled day everyone
Greg in Michigan
it would be good to try having all 4 connected and see how they would lift this would be another test
I see they already changed the design to a fixed handle on the website which should work. In changing the handle they had to change the base too so you can stand it on end now to hide the jack away when not in use. Great review and modifications Doug!
What kind of air requirements are on these air jacks? I would hate to have to pull out my larger compressor every time I needed to jack something up.
It'd be interesting to see if an air storage tank could supply enough air to do a lift. Figure how much air is required by seeing how much the tank pressure drops from a single lift.
@@sadfur8728 I bought a 3T version and it works with 100psi on my tiny air compressor. It even did 2 lifts in a row of my wife’s Toyota RAV4 before the compressor kicked on again.
@@Brian-Outdoors I'm going to measure the air pressure required for the lift of my car, which would be dependent on the weight of the car.
Wondering if it could serve as a rough scale for heavy loads.
If it's at all indicative of the weight of the lift, I'm going to tee in a pressure gauge on the release valve side so as to give an indication of the force being applied. It would be nice if they included it at manufacture either way.
I did try releasing the air through the inlet valve after disconnecting the air line, and it seemed to work almost the same as through the diffuser restriction of the release valve, just quicker.
The actual pressure during lift is in the range of 40 to 50 psi for the two vehicles I tried, for the 3 Ton version I have. I have to try it with some heavier and lighter ones to better compare.
I may just replace the release valve with a pressure gauge instead of teeing it in, as it's easy enough just disconnecting the air line and releasing it through the inlet valve when done, and the blow off valve could also be used to bleed some off for fine adjustment if it went over.
I'd also add some nylon runners underneath the lift plate because it gets all scratched up otherwise when sliding it around under the car, no need to promote rust from that if it can be avoided.
DOUG, companies that send you products to try out are getting free R&D along with advertising ! I'm sure they will 'up their game' in the instruction manual and product now! Good Stuff!!!
I just got one of these ! It's a 3 ton , But it's not the red or blue one ! It's the one that is cream colored & has a tubular handle from the base to the top were the control valves are that stays in a fixed position ! There is no binding or kinking of the feeder line inside the tube because the tube remains in a fixed position ! & IMHO this model is the best design or turn key right out of the box that requires no modifications at all ! & the only drawback is it only comes in the 3 ton , & not in the 5 ton ( blue ) But it is better than the 3 ton one ( red ) I do like the mods You made on both of them ! I believe that's called reverse engineering ? Either way You made a improvement on those 2 models IMO . Thanks for the video .
Awesome, thank you!
Be safe and never trust any jack! Always use jack stands!!
Thanks for watching!!!
@@OneEyeCustoms Always have ! Always will !
Even with these hacks you're going to get chafing over time. Maybe also adding a bit of 10mm corrugated conduit to sheath the air tube?
Kinda hard to see engineering flaws when you order on line. I think I'd get some air bags off of a semi trailer and build a super heavy duty lift. Maybe run the hose through pvc tubing and mount it to the outside of the square tubing.
Thank you for the great review.
My pleasure!
Do those poly propylene floor tiles get indented from the sharp edge base of the jack stands? I was considering getting the Vevor tiles but wondering if they could hold to to the extreme pressure without using an additional plate to distribute the force.
I had to add 1.5x1.5” small corner plates to my stands so they wouldn’t dig in.
@@OneEyeCustoms seems reasonable enough, I'll give them a try -
It looks like your shop male couplings use a tapered thread, presumably 1/4". The supplied ones are parallel. A tapered into a parallel will seal on the threads, whereas parallel into parallel will not, and requires a face seal.
Engineering-wise, face seals are probably better, but for airlines personally I have had the most luck just using quality tapered fittings (and discarding the supplied Universal ones)
Thanks for the video, enjoyed the watch
The rocking motion wouldn't be there if the bags were under load.?.
You only have limited air in the bags when no weight is on the top of it..?.
For safer jacking get a base to set your jack on, that way you don't need a block of wood on the lifting pad of jack.
If both the 3 and 5 ton models have nearly the same lift height, was there a situation where the 3 ton was unable to lift what the 5 ton was able to?
The wider footprint of the 5 ton would be a drawback if it added nothing that was necessary to do the job.
I prefer the 3 ton for most everything I use it for because of the smaller foot print!
@@OneEyeCustoms that does seem like an advantage compared to the wider one. As long as it's capable of the lift-
What if we just put a garden hose on top of the hose
a floor jack has a radial lift as the arm goes up the location of the saddle moves these should go straight up with no radial movment
Looks good to me, nice blade!
They are meant to be used fully extended till you put the jack stands in place.
Thank you, that is good to know. I have not been told that before!
the bottle jack I use to lift my truck goes up straight, makes no difference as long as you place the jack correctly, shouldn't tip unless you don't know what you're doing
What is on top of the jack when you lifted the truck .how is it attached to the jack ...does it come with it ...did you make it .?
It is a “puck” of very dense hard rubber. I attached it with a longer bolt than what came with the jack.
@@OneEyeCustoms no there is a cylinder on top of the puck when he Jack's up the truck
@@OneEyeCustoms oh ok I see what your saying sorry mis understood
@@stevehicks5735 it is a round bump stop puck from my Jeep. (Extras I had) 3 stacked together.
I don’t recommend doing that because they can slip. So I ordered a couple 3” diameter Jack pad risers that are 3” tall. I bolted one to the top of each Jack. You can find them on Amazon.
@@stevehicks5735 no problem, glad we got it cleared up for ya!
So I see your organization of tools and equipment but something I am trying to do currently is organize my consumables. example grinding/cut off /sanding wheels and other items that I would like to keep visible to see inventory. Any ideas ????
I wish I had a better idea for you. I have two drawers in my toolbox. One is for the die grinder flap disks and cut off wheels. Pretty much anything I have for big grinding snd sanding. The other is for my smaller cordless cut off and die grinder stuff along with carbide burrs and consumables like that.
For me, that was too much to try to have hanging up in the shop.
Sorry I couldn’t help more.
@@OneEyeCustoms I appreciate the reply wasn’t expecting it, I think I came up with an idea I hope to building on the plasma table here soon will share when completed thanks again !
Zip tie the hose along the side ?
Yep, that would work also.
Now go buy or if you have plastic door guard strip material put it on your hole sawed half moons at the bottom and at the top where it exits the box tube from the elongated hole, with that there's no way you'll puncture the air hose tube.
Seriously I thing pex tube would work better and its rated for high presure more so then that tube is.
So, what kind of spacer was that between jack & control arm towards end of video ? Thanks
Well ya seeeeee, it was a couple of left over rubber bump stops from my Jeep project. I don’t recommend using them, they are too narrow. I did later on, order jack specific rubber spacer. It’s a bit safer.
I like this idea and will buy one soon
Hope you enjoy it!
it would be nice to know the height deflated. I don't think it will fit under my Challenger
The specs are on their web site for all the different models they have.
Yeah. You create a video to make money and content but you're too lazy to include the specs. You're not very good at this youtube thing. @@OneEyeCustoms
@@fiouable you seam to have missed the point of the collaboration. It is to get people interested in the product and steer them towards their web site. They have so many models of these that the specs change for each one. You need to determine which one would work best for you from YOUR research.
You call me lazy but you can’t even go to the web site and look it up… that’s the pot calling the kettle black… I hope your day gets better because you were obviously bitter when you posted this comment. Sorry, have a good day!
I love your OCD. Good review.
Would have liked to see you lift your track loader with it :D
Outstanding review.
Thank you kindly!
Excellent review!
Thank you kindly!
flip your bolts around, or get stove bolts and put in there.
what's the dia on those bags? I have one without the long handle, has two handlebars on it, has 10 1/2" bag dia - 3 ton.... yours looks smaller. wondering if they downsized 3 ton bag. 10 1/2" deflated
@Trump 4EVER My 3 ton is 10” dia deflated.
@@OneEyeCustoms ok I have 2 with handlebars 10 1/2 I guess cus there diff model who know probable shaved 1/2 to save cost. I'm buying one with round fixed handle I'll check that one out.
@@OneEyeCustoms thanks
Can an ARB dual compressor run this Jack?
I do believe so, it will kick the compressor on more often to fill the bag, but should do the trick.
Hey brother, how much do they weigh?
It says in a comment on their web site it weighs 23kg or 51lbs for the blue 5 ton unit. Not sure if that is correct but it has to be close to that. The red one would be around 30 lbs I believe.
Does anyone know what size and type of hose they use?
I don’t have any idea or even how to find out. Sorry
Very good review, Doug. I'd be like you with that tube pinching issue. I'd modify it similarly. I'm too anal. Don't have enuf use to justify a purchase like that but you have lots more equipment than me so it makes more sense for your situation. Wondering if you could have simply swapped out the ball valves on those vs adding disconnects to accommodate your air system??
Thing is if it leans forward as the vehicle goes up then the center of gravity has moved away from the base of the air jack. Thus is is no longer lifting from the center of gravity. To risky as far as I am concerned.
I agree.
Nailed it!
Free engineering tips Doug.
Good call, just now you’ve added an extra $20 to each unit.
It is far from better than a jack. 1. Smaller lifting range. 2.Larger height when fully compressed meaning you won't be able to get it under some cars. Don't get me wrong I love mine, but it will never completely replace my floor jack. That said I am thinking about getting another, these work best in pairs.
Wrong on all counts. Just watched another video of this and the guy had it side by side with a regular floor jack and a low profile and this was lower than even the low profile when compressed.
@@jerometruitt2731 This is from Vevor: Min height 5.3inches Maximum height 15.75 in. Lifting range= 15.75-5.3=10.45 inches. Here are the specs from Harbor Freight and their low profile jack. Min height = 3.3 inches Maximum height =24.25 inches Lifting range = 24.25-3.3 = 20.95 Or about 2x the lifting range of an air bag. Now lets looks at the minimum 5.3 vs 3.3 about 40% lower for the jack. Would you like to walk it back now or just look stupid?
Wise mechanics stock quality brass chucks and nipples ahead of time as they're so inexpensive even if you buy Milton.
I previously made a bag jack from an 18-wheeler suspension bag to raise and shift my 40' shipping containers while expanding my shop (suspension bags do NOT have internals to limit sideways travel but there are videos to address that, I wanted the movement for that job) which worked flawlessly but Vevors are so inexpensive it's not worth fabbing smaller sizes except for mechanics who have bags handy. When jacking anything of size I do like first responders and "capture progress" with wooden cribbing and old alloy rims laid on their sides which is stable even on dirt (which is why so many salvage yards use steel rims, but alloy is much nicer to lift).
BTW if you use a CO2 cylinder like off-roaders do for tires they work great for inflating the Vevor or other bag jack. I have CO2 anyway for welding and mobile tire topoff so the Vevor lets me swap trailer tires etc in the field using the same CO2 I inflate them with.
Send the company your review!
The adjustable handles are a pain, I removed the 2 bolts that mount the hinge to the plate and welded the hinge, I drilled a hole in the handle and bolted it in the flat down position permanently. There is no need for the handle to move. I have one with the non-adjustable handle and I should have gotten another one the same. The folding handle is a shit design.
I agree!
Very good!
They should put you on the payroll. But alas. They probably will say you've just voided the warranty lol.
they are a jack. you are to use supports after you raise it up but like everyone, some will use as a jack stand and get hurt. they are airbags, not steel. air will move with force. you have to be smarter than what you're working with.
I’m not sure if you are directing this comment at me or just in general?
I do stress and also show using Jack Stands in this video.
@@OneEyeCustoms just in general. As you probably know there are many people out there don’t use things as they should, I for one. I have figured out though that you don’t get under heavy things with support other than a jack. Vehicles coming off a jack and falling on you is going to really hurt.
@@jeffhudson1744 I had a friend get killed by a truck that fell on him from not having Jack stands so I’m pretty strict on that one. Thanks for watching and the comments.
Have you
Good review, But In will stay with my old school floor jacks🚜👍🏼🪵🇺🇸
I agree!!!
I keep thinking Alibaba. 🤦♂
Down fail is using on side of the road, who has a air compressor ???
There ya go again, costing me money when I watch your videos. Ordered a 5-ton for the truck. My wife's gonna kill me. 🤫
Hope you like it, be careful and always use Jack stands!!! There is a bit of a learning curve with them, but they are very handy and much quicker!
Don’t forget to shut off the air valve before hooking up the air supply. If you don’t, you will get an unexpected rise out of it. 😜
@@OneEyeCustoms Well, all assembled. I also modified, trimmed out the pinch point of the airline. The whole unit is a bear to move around with the wheels being so small. I've been considering putting on larger wheels (3") which should still give enough clearance off the floor when flat.
@@OneEyeCustoms Well, I ended up picked up 2 - 4" pvc swivel caster wheels (blue to match lift) from Harbor Freight, for 3.99 each. Had to drill out rivet to remove from caster, works perfectly.