Better Than Expected - Vintage Gold Montblanc Noblesse Fountain Pen
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Thank you for this review...let me please share my experience with this beautiful pen.. I was born in the 70s, my father was a man who cared about handwriting, he had excellent penmanship. He was an engineer and use to have his pencils always well sharpened. But... the most precious treasure that always catched up my attention when I was at his office... was his Mont Blanc Noblesse Platinum set of 3 pieces, The Fountain Pen, the Mechanical pencil, and the Roller pen. Wow how exciting was watching him to write with that Fountain pen. For me the FP was kind of a Sword. I was perhaps 9 years old when I took the risk of asking him a brave question... Would you give it to me as a gift? My father gently smiled , he said Yes, but until you get your bachelor's degree . He took the pen, and put it into his drawers desk. And leave it there for 13 years. I grew and forgot the Pen, distracted by other topics of youthness. A few weeks after graduating as an engineer, I pass by his office to say hello. After a few minutes of talking, he said... I have a gift for you... he opened his drawer, rise the pen and said... this is yours. Wow I was full of happiness that day. I do not use it too much, keep it safe as a treasure. With that same Pen I signed my marriage act. After several years he shutdown his office, and I helped him to take out his stuff. I found the 2 other pieces of the MB set, and I asked again... he said yes with a bright smile. Those 2 are yours now. My father passed away peacefully in 2019. I have now this 41 years old Mont Blanc Noblesse kit. Last year I decided to bring them back to live. The Mechanical pencil is 0.9M lead. I bought a 2B grade ones. For the Roller pen a new sealed cartridge, and for the Fountain pen... leave it a few hours into a new Elektropura bottle water. With a syringe I passed water and air very carefully through the feed until the water was coming out clean. The Pen has a MB piston converter, it was stuck, I put it into water with a few drops of shampoo for hands, and that worked well. No damage at all. I bought a MB bottle of black ink. Filled the converter and YES! My pen was alive again... the nib is M, Platinum material. That is for me, the most precious pen in the world. Now I am learning and practicing cursive, because I want to have a nice handwriting as my dad. Baby steps of course. I bought a Pilot Metropolitan and a Lamy Safari All Black edition. And some day, I will buy a Mont Blanc set (A brand more related to me because of the emotional side). And perhaps... some day my children will be able to say... This is the MB of my grandfather, this is the MB of my dad, and this is mine. Best Regards, and thanks to all of you who took the time to read this memory.
Very touching story. Thanks for sharing it. I own one of the Platinum Noblesse models (1157) and it is great pen. Enjoy using yours.
I have a steel Noblesse with a steel nib. It is a nice writer, and if I am not mistaken, these pens were quite affordable when they came out. Montblanc definitely knows how to make good pens. It sort of is a pity that they only make luxury pens nowadays.
Yeah I wish they put their expertise to use on making some at lower prices points. They don't need to be really low cost but even around the $200 range would be ok. If they did that it would probably benefit them long term. They can totally make a good quality pen that is simple, reliable, and writes wonderfully at that price. Doesn't have to be all fancy, but just a proper built, reliable, great writing pen. I would love to se them do this!
@@Doodlebud $200 range would indeed be amazing. But I'm afraid their prices will only go up. When I got 'serious' into the whole fountain pen thing in 2010, I bought a 145 for about $400. It was my first expensive pen. Nowadays, that model retails for around $700. Who says pens are a bad investment :)
Me too!! In broad, black white
@@Doodlebud yeah, problem is, everybody can do this nowadays with enough dedication and that´s nothing montblanc wants to be compared with.
Thanks for an excellent video. Beautiful pen. There were five models of the first Gen Noblesse introduced from 1973 onwards.. Your gold and platinum models (1147 and 1157 models), and stainless steel model (1124 model) had 14c nibs, and the two others had steel nibs (1120, 1122 models). All of them are great writers and very durable thanks to the metal body. They were introduced as a response to pens like the Aurora Hastil and were a great success for Montblanc. The second pen Noblesse pens and the CS (slimline) pens came in the early 1980s, and there was a third gen as well. There are plenty of these available on E-Bay. Incidentally, you can buy matching ballpoints and pencils and there was a finaliser model for some of the pens.
This pen wound up in the right hands. Not sure if someone else would appreciate this one as much as you do. Always enjoy your reviews. Best fountain pen channel for the pure love of writing instruments.
Thanks for saying hi! I think you possibly left the first comment ever on my channel (or very close to the first). Its just such a lovely pen and it just wants to write. The nib gives delivers the perfect sensation when writing and reminds of why I choose a fountain pen in the first place.
That was the higher end of MontBlanc’s budget line. Many Noblesse converters fail because that line was probably outsourced by another firm. I think Pelican converters work on most generations, if I remember correctly. Enjoy your find.
Probably Aurora made them. They had Hastil, Marco Polo and Magellano models so similar to that Montblanc.
@@kaledonia1983 good to know. Never had an Aurora FP.
My grandad had a Montblanc Noblesse VIP for 40 years+, used it as his daily pen, just gifted it to me the other day and it works amazingly well, I think its a BB nib.
Like I said, the grandad pen! This pen in a BB must be fantastic! Take care of it and enjoy
@@Doodlebud oh it is, the BB is super smooth, gives me some great line variation. It is the fully black version with a 585 BB nib, has aged really well.
I’m 6’ 3” and have pretty big paws too, but I find my Noblesse pens are super easy to write with. I was pretty lucky bidding on a box at a postal auction, back in the late 90’s. Turns out that it was filled with 20 or so various Montblanc pens, that apparently had been repaired and Was lost in transit? I sold some, but kept a hold of half and still have 4 from that original box, which include a steel and gold Noblesse. They both write quite differently; one with a 4-5 mm stroke and the other is 6-7 mm. Both 14k nibs, but almost as firm as steel. They are incredible writers and I forget how much I like them, often eschewing them for my latest and greatest aquisition. Oh, also in that box, were 4 DuPont pens. I sold 3 and kept one, but it was stolen out of my car, years ago. It too was a great pen and one that doesn’t seem to get it’s due from the pen community. It was an 18k broad nib, dated from the 80’s and an absolute beauty. Was a time, when I’d pick up great vintage pens from second hand stores for a song, but them days are over. Even at garage sales, it seems that vultures get there at the crack of dawn to look for pens, watches and jewelry. (2 other things I collect). So, it’s nice to see, that while the $5 - $10 deals may be virtually non- existent, that 100 Loonies can get you a pen that is this nice. Enjoy.
Yeah I'm 6'6" and thin pens like this usually are something I avoid. But just adjusting my drip a little bit and wow is it every rewarding to write with! Similar to the Pilot Elite/e95s. Simple slim pen with a gold nib but performs wonderfully! Sounds like you scored some amazing finds!
The Noblesse is very lovely. I don’t own one yet. But I have the very beautiful, iconic pen that is often cited as the one that inspired this Montblanc pen. I’m talking of the Aurora Hastil. In fact, I have read in several places how Aurora actually made the Noblesse pens for Montblanc.
edit: I have said it before, but I think many vintage Montblanc pens are extremely desirable and wonderful writers. Also, often very affordable and great value.
Like Andy, I have a Noblesse with a steel nib, in a brushed Stainless Steel finish, and I really enjoy writing with it-very smooth, even though it is an extra fine. When I bought it many years ago (around 1979/1980) it was very affordable (it was discounted to $40 US and came with ink, converter, 5 cartridges, and a paper pad-I think it was a starter kit). You’ve got a great pen and deal! Congratulations!
I have same pen left to me by my father. Does show signs of wear and base logo has some damage. I struggle to get ink to flow well out of it so I just keep it for sentimental reasons. Thank you for showing this beauty.
Reminds me of the slimline Sheaffer Targa, especially the ones from the late 1980s, when they switched from the inlaid nib to the TRZ style nib. I find them charming, though the thin section gets irritating for prolonged writing sessions.
Montblanc made fabulous pens before they went deep into the luxury status with their prices.
I will be going to a pem show in a few months. Maybe I can find something similar.
Great find.
If you can find a nice vintage MB you'll probably enjoy it. My MB 24 is lovely as well. Try them out and find out you love. If there's nothing that makes you go WOW, keep on looking/waiting.
Your new name should now be the MB whisperer. With all the restorations and patience to find the deals on them with great nibs is just awesome. Thanks for sharing, DB
It just takes patience. Not letting FOMO control your buying habits is my #1 tip. I lots at least 10 auctions before I got this one. I lost many more with my MB149 before I scored one for the price I wanted. My 149 took me at least 2 years to get at the price I wanted. Patience, patience, patience :)
My first experience with fountain pens was a stainless steel Monblanc Nobless with a steel nib. I stopped using fountain pens for probably 30 years. I found the pen again and cleaned and started using it again. That started be down the fountain pen rabit hole.
The Nobless it still a wonderful pen. I have since puchased another with a gold nib. My original is missing the body logo. The gold nibbed one has both. Really love this pen. May look for some other used Montblancs. They are wonderful writers.
Congratulations on your victory on this, not that I would compete for this one. I am literally unable to write satisfactorily with pens this skinny any more. 😢
I was in the camp of the Montblanc pens are overpriced. Then I found a Noblesse at a local bike shop (yes bicycle shop) they also sell vintage pens and watches. It is a stainless body. The cap is engraved with United Airlines logo and Y Noguchi on the other side. The nib! I have other gold-nibbed pens, but NOTHING like this. I'm a believer! And due to the engraving, I got it for $49. I love this pen!!!
I picked up a flighter-style gold-nibbed Noblesse from a certain Japanese auction site last year. I agree, it's very pleasant to write with, and it's probably the bounciest of the nibs I own.
Your penmanship is amazing. Thank you for sharing
I have a stainless one and it's lovely. Very understated.
Awesome find! Glad you enjoy the pen. I really like the one Vintage Montblanc I have.
I pulled out my gold Noblesse and it has exactly the same nib as yours. Its more bouncy that what I'm used to since I really only have steel ones for the bulk of my nibs. Then I got one of these with an 18K nib. Wow. Totally amazing. I lve that thing even if it will only fit a small cartridge. It writes like a dream. I do behave and not put sheening inks in these (almost evey other pen I have is filled with sheen) because I know it just wont end well, so they get Diamine or Iroshizuku in there instead.
As you've experienced, its just such a great writer and has a fantastic feel. I just love it!
Hi DB!: You got a smokin' deal on that pen! Lovely! Writes FANTASTIC, what more do you want? I really like the look, although I think I would be drawn to the stainless steel ones. Vintage pens are GREAT!!! Pretty much, fountain pens reached their zenith around 1950. And VERY VERY good ones were made up until the 1970's. By this time fp technology had been extremely perfected. Not to say the newer pens aren't as good, there are really a LOT of great pens out there at all different price points. The older pens are very nice also, because the gold prices were way down in those days and gold nibs were a lot more affordable. So as used pens, the value is much higher, I feel, than with new gold nib pens. The really interesting thing now is that there are a lot of steel nib pens that challenge gold nib pens for performance. That's what make the new pens so fascinating. Steel nibs can equal lower prices but fine performance.
I too have large hands. Picked up a MB Noblesse for around $100. I bought for my collection so I didn’t have special hope on writing. But it was unbelievably great. I had the logo repaired for $25. I agree with everything you say!
Oh good to know it wasn't too expensive to replace the logo. Where did you get it done?
here did you get it repaired. My gold Noblesse is missing the bottom logo.
I'm a fan of montblancs. They are really good pens and i can't think of another brand that have nearly the same experience in their physical stores.
Great find!
The problem with buying an used montblanc is that you never know if the seller sells an original or a fake.
So if you can buy it, then go to an official seller store to tell you if it is original or not, and if the eBay seller accepts returns then proceed. If not, you risk to buy a fake one.
But that's life and sometimes you have to take the risk.
That's where the research and patience pays off
Thank for showing the pen 🖊️
Your patience paid off big time, well done.
Gold isn't my style, but recently I have been looking at sterling silver pens, especially Pilots. Not quite ready to throw $300+ at one yet...
They have the same pen in steel as well for even less. Also you might want to check out some vintage Pelikan models which are similar to this. Here's one for example below. Reminds me of the Jinhao 35 which I loved but fell apart in 3 days LOL. The Pelikan has lasted decades so I think it should be good LOL
www.ebay.ca/itm/285073770133
From the time period, I'm betting that they were sold as "cartridge only." Basically because a standard converter didn't fit that great. Was kind of the heyday of cartridge only pens.😁
Not an amazing deal, but still well within the price range, as you said.
Patience is the key to buying from eBay. I have more than a sane person would have of vintage pens. I'll use a couple for examples. Esterbrook. A restored J series retails all the time for around $60 USD. Desk pens, for similar. I've gotten almost all of mine for $20 or less. Multiple that still work, and one I paid $15, sold as unrestored, but when it arrived, the seller had replaced the ink sac. Most I've paid for any Esterbrook was around $30 USD for one that retailers are asking closer to $100 USD.
And the, in my opinion, underrated 1940s Wahl-Eversharp Skyline. They're regularly between $100 and $150 USD restored. Hunt, you can get them for around $25 USD.
But the eBay prices fluctuate wildly. I've seen a seller trying to get $1500 for a possibly 1960s Esterbrook desk pen. And those who seem to think that they're worth over $100 for the J series. Wahl-Eversharp Skyline pens can be as crazy. I've seen ones with the gold filled cap so worn they were down to the base metal, clip had lost the plated cover (they look like one piece, but are 2, in just the clip) a lever itself was missing. There's no kind of generic ones that would fit. The entire lever/pressure bar is proprietary. They wanted $150 USD to start the bidding... Just picked up a hunter green one with a green and amber striped cap for $26. Took a gamble on it. Looked awful. No brightwork. Looked really scratched. Took a polishing pad to it, was some sort of tarnish and hand grot. Looks like new, now.
Patience and passing on plenty is the key.😁
hey DB - agreed on the slimline noblesse... fantastic writer - i have a matte black w/ 14K M nib.
I love my vintage montblanc... But it takes a lot of work to ensure they aren't fake. It's a minefield out there.
Thats where the patience thing comes in. If you take your time and wait and research you can be pleasantly rewarded.
This model, and most others that are out of production, weren't faked. I wouldn't be too worried unless I was shopping for a Meisterstuck, Starwalker, or one of the limited editions.
@@eh86055 very true. The current popular models are the ones they try to replicate
This is a very nice pen but if you like this you should really check out a sheaffer targa. Overall from build quality and how cheap you can find them on the second hand market make them a really attractive vintage pen that feels modern with a vintage writing experience
Great fountain pen! I have Noblesse, too. Already since the 90ies. And I think it is also one of the early editions (was a ucky find at a store at the airport. I call it the "Golden Skinny".
It seems that your converter is actually too long. The body doesn't thread commpletely down and that's why you have a slight gap between the cap and the body. Mine doesn't have this issue.
And mine has the same style of nib grind, but there seems to be not as much line variation as yours.
Enjoy it!
You have been mighty lucky when it comes to Montblanc fountain pens. What is your secret? Thank you for your video presentation. Take care.
Research, patience, and not letting FOMO take over. Also having the confidence to be able to adjust a nib if its a bit off. This one was perfect, but pens (new & old) can require nib adjustments so that helps big time if you are confident in being able to do that.
Got a steel nibbed one, probably misaligned the tines, though now it is scratchier, way more so than my other, misaligned pens
I saw this video and headed right over to eBay and got one in short order. No snow cap on the barrel but still very nice. Everything is great but mine won’t post. I wonder if it is missing an inner cap, but the snap cap goes on really well. I would really appreciate your input.
I have one metal body and nib. Pretty average. Plus one of my nib feeds snapped and no MB boutique solutions in Canada for repairs during my 2003-2017 time in Toronto. I would ask periodically when buying new pens and not even paying top dollar could I wrangle a repair.
Gotta pay the toll if you want the Montblanc's soul!!!
Awesome I have this pen with a steel nib but the ink flow doesn’t work too well
Sounds like it needs a bit of a tune up
@@Doodlebud yeah the tines seem to be spread apart a little bit but I haven’t been able to push them together. It’s a shame too since with the potential ink flow (through dipping it in ink) and writing it when it worked was amazing
@@earthnormal7024 if you're not able to, you should find someone to tune it up. You'll probably be happy you did
Having used some of these for a while, I don't like them. The cap clutch is a nylon sleeve, which wears really fast. After a few years of continued use my Slimlines' caps all stopped clicking on tightly.
I found it in my dead father's belongings it has 555 or 585 on the nib. How can I know if it's authentic? The nib has a strange colour it looks like copper.
Does PILOT ink work with it?
Try narwhal schuylkill
I think your link of the eBay seller is incomplete…
Can't you use a pencil? So using a fountain pen thin is the same thing. Good pens should be thin ones. The problem is the modern pen grip. You got a joy.
where is a good place to buy authentic second hand Montblanc pens? any place that is recommended?
What is the diameter of the grip? I don't like super thin pens, but this one looks pretty nice and if its not too thin...
Oh HELP PLEASE! I loved this video because I gave one of these (newly acquired) and do not know what converter will fit! I have the first edition which has no threads where the later models have/need threaded converters threaded. Has anyone found other converters that fit without having to modify? I’m not a tinkerer ;) I hope someone finds this comment…with help for a gal who loves this pen and needs an answer 😊
PS…I paid $105.00! In Very very good condition on eBay from an American high rated seller. They are out there! And cheaper than new stuff.
I'm just using a regular Schmidt converter in mine
How do you think this stacks up against a 149?
They are very different pens in every possible way. They are both fountain pens, both have gold nibs, and thats about as far as the similarities go.
What's the diameter of the grip section?
Writes like pvssy!
Montblanc is a German company, not a French company. It sounds very strange to use a distinctly French pronunciation of the company name.
It is a German company but the actual mountain it's named after is in France.
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Montblancs are overpriced
Montblancs are overpriced
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I have 2 Slimlines in brushed stainless - black and blue both with stainless nibs, the ballpoint in gold to match your Noblesse and in 1985 my hubby gave me the Noblesse Burgundy (lacquer/metal) with an 18k Nib. Now after reading all of your comments I may just try it out. DB thanks for your review.
mon blon lol
LOL yeah it's not like I took French immersion or anything for 12 yrs. Enlighten me to the correct pronunciation
Montblancs are overpriced
LOL