I've never understood people's problem with the previous Z6/Z7 models. Their only disadvantage is their bad subject detection. The autofocus itself, which is not the same thing as subject detection (people always mix that up), is quite fast. Apart from that, great image quality, great colour science, great ergonomics, excellent lenses. And they have always been a bit to a lot cheaper than the equivalent models of Canon and Sony. A used Z6 is the best you can get for 700-800€ (whatever that is in the UK/US). However, if someone is considering buying a Z6iii, I would highly recommend the Z7ii instead, if you don't need better subject detection and video.
That "only" disadvantage depends on use case. On one extreme, some famous fashion photographers (like Peter Coulson) still use a Hasselblad H6 professionally.. That thing has a single focusing point, no subject detection at all and in fact, offers less focusing options than a decade old D3100. Obviously any Z6/Z7 is more than usable for such line of work. On the polar opposite, check out Jared Polin's Canon R5 II video. I mean this is the gold standard in 2024 and no Nikon camera is remotely comparable with this. Especially watch basketball part in that video; Admit it, you would LOVE to have something similar from Nikon. I would. I find Z7 II's focusing capabilites more comperable to my old D800 than high-end Canon/Sony models. If you want to make sure camera reliably focuses at where its supposed to, you are better off putting focusing point yourself, like a D800. Camera then works fast and accurately; just like a D800... This doesn't make Z7 unusable, D800 was the top dog of its time, near instant fast autofocus, face detection in viewfinder usually works and is capable of tracking fast moving subjects like flying birds or dancers etc. Don't get me wrong, being on similar level as D800 easily puts in "good enough for everying" category but why accept 2015 era technology as "good enough" when you can also buy a Canon which can literally determine who is holding the ball in a basketball game and focus on that guy even before I can even get the composition right?
I shoot with and own many brands, and as a photographer first shooter, I have never had any issues with the Nikon mirrorless brand. I started into mirrorless when the Sony a7rII was released and picked up Nikon's Z6 when it was released. There was a noticeable acquisition speed difference between my Sony and Nikon bodies, but for photography, it always performed flawlessly for me in my portrait and nature work.
I have taken some of my best photos with the first Z6. I can't understand why so many speak poorly of the camera. The operation is intuitive, and the results have always convinced me. I eventually switched systems because I find Sigma lenses so good. I miss my Z6; if I were in a better financial position, I would have kept the Z6 as a second camera. The fact is, when the Z6 was released, it was one of the best cameras on the market.
The Zf has a dedicated exposure compensation dial because it's all about the dials. There are *no* dedicated dials on the Z6III, Z7II, Z8, or Z9. The entire operational approach is "press a button, turn a dial," except for the tasks given to the two dials without a button press. This is how many Nikon cameras have worked for about 35 years.
CFX cards are now effectively more affordable than the fastest SD card when you compare speed and capacity. Also RAW file are RAW. I've never known any Nikon camera to apply processing to a RAW file. Noise reduction settings only apply to jpegs.
The one thing that I MUST change in My Nikon Z cameras is,, in the Z6III,,, "f7 RELEASE BUTTON TO USE DIAL" ""TURN IT ON"" then (WHEN YOU TOUCH ANY '"FN"BUTTON,, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HOLD IT DOWN TILL YOU ARE DONE) push the "FN" button, change the settings then touch any button to finish the change!!!!!!!!!!! TRY IT, YOU MAY THANK ME :) :) :) "Z8,,, f6"
I am, reluctantly. Mainly because I don't have the time/energy/will power to switch to Resolve. Even though I have no doubt it's the better software. But also because I use PS, LR, AE and other programs in the Adobe suite. Plus, Adobe's AI functions are killer and more are on the way. So... here I am... 🙃
It’s good to see Nikon with a competitive offering in the mid-priced space. The Z6III certainly bests the competitors in certain areas, but hardly worth jumping systems for. Different makes will continue to leapfrog each other with incremental improvements. We’re spoiled with choice. Pick one and be about your work.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel from nikon perspective flippy screen compromise durability,, but its more expensive to put Z9 screen mechanism to Z6/Z7 s
Agreed. Many people want the camera to do everything for them. Yes, the Z7ii auto focus is not as good as the Canon R5. Yes, the Z9 AF is slightly behind the Canon R3. Despite the shortcoming, the Z7ii will focus accurately if you set it up or select the right focus mode. The Z9 AF will continue to get better with firmware updates. Savvy?
The z6 III has a dual gain sensor. From what i saw on another video, from ISO 100 to 800 the camera prioritizes the dynamic range over the noise. Software these days can clean up any noise at those levels. After ISO 800 it prioritizes the noise level over dynamic range. But they say there's not a lot of difference between the z6 III and z6 II. I shoot a lot of milky way photos so I'm waiting for someone to give a review on how it does at ISO 3200 and 6400 at night. I will probably sell my z6 II next year and replace it with the III. The two main things i hate about mirrorless cameras is that the dicuss tracking (because the sensor does the tracking and capturing of the images) and the screen blackout in burst mode. My understanding is that the z6 III has a little blackout when in mechanical shutter but it's like a DSLR. That's only normal because the shutter has to open and close. I can handle that type of blackout. I do not like it blacking out until I let off the shutter button like my z6 II has. The focus tracking on the z6 II is fine for portraits but there's been so many times when i needed it for other things and it didn't work as well. I have the z8 which is better than both of those so even if i keep the z6 II I'm still good. But sometimes i prefer a smaller body to carry around. I do a little street photography and the z8 really stands out even with a pancake lens on.
@csc-photo a DSLR isn't totally blackout free because of the mirror going up and down as well as the shutter opening and closing. As long as the z6 III is like that I'll be happy with it. The z6 and z6 II completely black out when I'm busy mode. You can't see what you're tracking. I've seen people put a red dot optical in the hot shoe so they can track what they're shooting. I like the looks of the zf but I don't think I'd like the feel of it.
@@kjltube I have had to when travelling, when I thought I had enough cards but needed more. Even though I was downloading onto an external hard drive, I did not want to erase the cards until getting home and copying everything to more permanent storage.
The higher quality video formats demand a card beyond the SD format. I’d say CFexpress type B is the best card for this job. The Z6III does have an SD slot as well.
Hi, great review! I really miss a third dial (like you said). And I suffer for limited dials customization (compared to Nikon competitors). Hope that Nikon modernize his ergonomics.
It's not crippled when you account for 2 things: the fact that Nikon does not bake in noise reduction like some other companies, so when it's applied, the dynamic range differences are very small... and the lower ISO values don't have quite the dynamic range that higher ones do. Beyond these, I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of photographers, pro and hobbyists alike, could not tell a difference when compared to other cameras. These issues are only magnified in the age of internet commenters demanding absolute perfection from any and all products.
I am SO TORN between getting this or the Z8. I dont really need the 45mp, but... DAMN its a oiece of work. That Z6III is everything I could use in a relatively compact amd more affordable package though.
I went with the Z8 just recently. shot with a z6ii for 3 years. The D850 was always my favorite DSLR so this made sense. Don't get me wrong I'm keeping my Z6ii. But I really appreciate the 45mp and the feeling of a "normal" sized camera for my larger hands. Ps. Those long lenses like the 70-200 & the 180-600mm are a dream on the Z8 and very awkward feeling on the Z6ii If you can't live without a flippy screen (which btw isn't really useful on really sunny days)then definately the Z6iii Also not having a mechanical shutter anymore is crazy. I'm really enjoying it. It's an amazing camera I only had it for like 5 days though. Iset it uppretty much exactly tly like my D850 so I'm really feeling at home with this thing.
When it comes to dynamic range, the Z6iii is interesting indeed. According to the data by Photos-to-Photons, the dynamic range at base ISO is 10.4 for the mark 3, while it was 11.2 for the mark 1 and 2. The Z7 goes to 11.6 stops but only because it has a base ISO of 64, at 100. What is interesting is that the Z6iii has a dual gain with a big jump at ISO 800. From that point down it is on par with the previous Z6 models and basically all other full frame cameras. It is only at lower ISO that this sensor is lacking behind, worse even than APS-C models like the Sony A6700 (but it beats these by almost a stop at ISO 800)
And historically lots of cameras with good high ISO performance had relatively worse DR at low ISO. The D5 and D6 have comparatively terrible DR at ISO 100, but we survived.
Nikon also doesn't bake in noise reduction automatically like some other companies. When you account for that, the difference in dynamic range to similarly priced cameras is not much at all.
I see this as a good thing to be honest. I am looking to get into the full frame camera world (bought a couple of full frame lenses for my A6300 the last couple of years to slowly build up a good kit for when I would make the jump to full frame). Given that the A7 IV is due for an upgrade in the Sony line-up, I'll probably be buying a new camera next year. I was planning to either get the new A7 V when it comes out or (if the upgrades weren't as substantial) get a A7 IV at a lower price (thanks to the release of the newer model). Seeing, the Z6 III do so well in reviews, means that Sony will have to make a substantial upgrade with the A7 V. And that's a good thing in my book. Strong competition means better cameras for all of us who are in the market for buying a new one.
On the DR thing - the technical reason is that faster ADCs tend to be noisier. Simple as that. The panic about Z6III's seems to come from Bill Claff's PDR metric, that makes it nearly a stop worse than the Z6II - but then no-one really knows what 'PDR' means, I suspect including its creator. The plain DR is about half a stop worse at low ISO settings, as said likely due to those faster ADCs. But for most normal photographers operating their camera in the normal way, this simply isn't an issue.
@@kalimarus I know Cnon gets marked as NR but I'm not convinced - Bill Claff doesn't tell us how he detects 'NR' and the Canon files don't seem to show much evidence - and if there is no evidence, than what's the problem. I got tired of all the 'Canon vs Nikon' stuff from both sides years ago.
@@BobN54 I personally think both have good sensors and people really don’t need to worry about those charts much. I’m not sure how he measures it either. Pentax I think did this first with an “accelerator” chip that hugely boosts ISO and noise performance by that metric which makes the camera look amazing on a chart, but in reality about the same as any other sensor for editing.
Video in prores is good but takes a lot of computing power to process. 8 sec clip takes 30 mins of processing time. Older f mount lens with ftz isn't good with stabilisation, definitely need the vr z mount lenses for that amazing stabilisation.
I'm still living in DSLR land and seeing mirrorless slowly take on the market and owning canon glass (and a 5d4 and a 70D), I can see myself buying an APS-c mirrorless somewhere in my future, Why? because my glass is still great and there are loads of second hand lenses that would work well on mirrorless bodies. Lenses that I'd throw straight on are the EF85mm f/1.8, EF50mm f/1.4, EF-s 18-135 stm, 24mm stm, 24-105 f/4 L IS and 70-200 IS II L f/4, plus 60mm macro and 100mm macro L IS. I wouldn't need to buy the lenses because I own them already. I would buy a 18-50 f/2.8 sigma lens though as I think that would make a brilliant combo for my kids. So the soft migration I'll be getting from Canon and all the second hand glass out there is fantastic for me! cb
Honestly, the CF Express thing isn't as big as people make it out to be. I bought a Z6 (which has a single CF express slot) last year, and to be completely honest, I thought that this would be one of the things I hate about the Z6 after using it for half a year but it's absolutely not. Compared to V90 SD cards, CFXB cards are faster and cheaper. They are also faster and cheaper than the smaller CF express type A cards that Sony is using (and also preventing other camera manufacturers from using...). The hybrid slots in Sony cameras are pretty nice,m but since Sony is the only company that uses them, you end up with much lower sales volume which means higher prices. And the Type A standard is slower than the Type B standard, so you end up with slower cards that are more expensive. Using a Z6 which has a single CFXB slot, I totally removed from my mind any buffer issues, the card is way faster than what the camera can fill, so there absolutely no waiting for shots to be written to the card. On a camera with CFXB + SD, this is a little trickier. I think I would rather have dual slots of the same type, either 2 SD or 2 CFXB (but to this day, only the Z9 and yet to be release Canon R1 have two of these cards). Knowing me, I could shoot this camera and ignore it has an SD slot because of the slower speed and vastly reduced buffer. kind of a shame, but hey what are you gonna do. Even the Z8 and the very new R5 mark II have this issue (R3 as well, for some reason)
The same people complaining are crickets when new cameras like the R5ii have no dual video recording but they’ll cry all day about the Z6iii not having it.
@@kalimarus People latch onto a particular flaw of a camera, and it follows that camera series and it's siblings for years. Every Nikon video has to mention AF tracking, every Canon video has to mention video overheating, every Sony video has to mention the menus.
@@UnconventionalReasoningThey should have used two hybrid slots. But the real elephant in the room is they refuse to release a real FF photographer’s camera. These all have unnecessary video features, honking big heavy expensive lens options, and big gaps in the lens catalogue. Just look at the size, weight and cost of that 85mm f1.8. Such a joke.
And then there’s Pentax primarily staying with DSLRs (not complaining, love my Pentax k3 iii), just wish it had the same af, video, and shots per second as a mirrorless.
More like "Zero to Hero"... It's great to see Nikon finally getting it together - way more so than Canon and far and away from Fuji (with their 5 year old AF LOL). I'm seriously looking at getting one, but I do want to see the A7V & A7Siv (which will most likely have the partially stacking sensor too).
Good to know! I don't doubt it tbf. I think Nikon has been bullied unfairly for a long time. It's nice to see them doing so well with these recent releases!
Great review! CFE-B & SD works perfectly for me (please, no CFE-A, ever). Had a good laugh at the Rambo clip insert 😆 Currently I have the Z8 & Zf, super combo so I'm not in a rush for the Z6III this year. 180-600 is next on my list. 🤓
Don’t get me wrong I was actually considering the zf which is basically the XT five but in full frame, however it’s just the film simulations are amazing on Fuji and the best part about it. I don’t have to edit. It takes the middleman out and just let me have a good photo out of camera.
Careful everyone!!! I have two Z6IIIs which are probably going back today because of an inexplicable sensor flicker . It’s even there with the lens cap on. Shows up in the EVF. Shows up in the recorded images. Hopefully it’s a bad batch of chips and not a fundamental design flaw. Both serial numbers were below 2100.
@@livejames9374 Too soon for clear answers. I just handed them back to my retailer and will let them sort it out. Headed to another branch now to see if I can find at least one good camera. I just saw someone else post about this issue on the Facebook forum it seems like there’s more than a few of them out there.
this or a panasonic lumix s5iix? more of a video first person but a 50/50 shooter and was already struggling between s5iix and a A7IV. now this is out also..
The Nikon 1 was, in many ways, a lovely camera, but plagued with reliability issues and, in my view, too many variants, as though they were throwing out everything they could think of in the hope that someone would buy something. When they finally dropped the series, i think they still didn't quite know what mirrors cameras were about, which probably leaked into their Z series design policies. If i could get a reliable Nikon 1 V5 today -- something they never made -- I'd snap it up today. And, if they had made such a thing, it would probably have pointed the way to whatever came next. The slightly dumbed down J5 seems to be pretty popular still.
many people still shoot with DSLR cameras and get amazing pictures, I wonder what it is that you’re shooting that you’re missing out on the performance of a modern Sony mirrorless camera, not a Hollywood movie? or maybe some projects for Netflix? funny
@@abercrombie2684 I don’t think there’s anything underpowered about Sony’s current lineup. I like Nikon, and I’m delighted they are finally doing well, but my a7cii is nearly perfect for the shooting I do. And the a7rv is an absolute beast. The lens selection can’t be beat. I think we spend too much time thinking of our camera manufacturers as teams we join and root for like fans. I love Nikon and Panasonic full frame especially, but I can’t afford to have all of them. Sony is awesome too.
@@abercrombie2684 if you talk about shooting good pictures then practically any offering from sony,canon and Nikon can provide beautiful stills, I'm talking about the overall specs, like 6k raw from the new lumix and Nikon, the amazing new autofocus from canon just to name a few, while sony still can't offer the zve10ii with 4k120
@@abercrombie2684 its always been artist>>tool, nobody really cares about the brushes used by famous artist they care about the artist himself but this is a discussion about tools and when you are discussing about tools you don't take the artist's talent into consideration.
Canon will likely release the R6 Mark III next year or perhaps the year after (so 2026) so they will leapfrog the Z6 III for sure in their next iteration. This is one market that Sony and Canon will generally stay ahead in because they get their R6 (Canon) and A7 series up to snuff before Nikon did. However, in the higher-end market (the R5/Z8/A7R series) that gets more interesting, since Nikon will update the Z8 before the other two update their cameras again. So Nikon is probably ahead there in that regard. But it's all a game of leapfrog to be honest. Although it will be interesting to see what Nikon does for the Z9... if they'll release a faster Z9 but perhaps at a lower-resolution like say 36-40MP that favors speed over resolution, or what they'll do (maybe fuse two 24MP sensors together with dual Expeed 7's to make a higher-res global shutter system).
How often did the mis-focused eyes problem occur for portraits? Was this 1 in 10, or more like 1 in 100? The tendency for my Nikon cameras to do that is what caused me to leave Nikon a couple of years back. I'd hate to spend thousands of dollars going back for the other Nikon features that I like only to find that the problem isn't really fixed. Thanks!
13:27 Nice! Nikon has finally caught up to Sony with features that Sony has had for generations!! (ok, sarcastic rant over; I honestly applaud Nikon's recent releases)
Hi, I'm looking for a beginner's camera and I need your help, I need a camera that takes high quality photos, I don't care that much about the video and I also need it to be fast. Do you have any camera recommendations?
Chat I want to upgrade my camera. I'm interested in photo and video work for live concerts and architecture. My options are Sony a7S III, Sony a7 III, Nikon Z7 II, Nikon Z6 III, and Sony a7C II. I'm open for more recs.
With Nikon's purchase of REDs technology Canon needs to watch its back because I think Nikon is on its Way to producing some serious cinematic cameras.
It’s still faster. Stacked sensors also enhance autofocus capability, more data faster so the algorithms can keep up better. It’s not all for rolling shutter benefits.
CMOS chips are silicon. If you put one silicon die on top of other, its stacked, there is nothing that can be "partial" about the process. "partial" probably means its partial as in not everything is that should/could be moved to stacked die was moved. Speculating here but maybe, top layer (sensor itself) is more or less the same as previous Z6 II (including all circuitry) but they added a second stack is just for giving more space row/column activation transistors and required wirings to speed things up. In either case "partial" just means its a "simpler and cheaper" stacked sensor. Maybe designed to be manufactured at less capable fabs, maybe a simpler second stack for better yields, decreasing cost per chip, maybe less inter-die wiring to improve bonding interface errors.
They have the same dynamic range penalty. The problem lies to iso test. Z8 can go at iso 64, so the dynamic range is much better. Past 64 iso like 100, 200... it behave almost the same as this Z6 III. The problem is Z6 III doesn't have iso 64, it starts only at iso 100
@@bobamarmstrong False comparison method. Compare Z8 to Z7ii which both have ISO64. Z8 only has like 1/3 stop worse dynamic range. Then compare Z6iii at ISO100 to Z6ii at ISO100, where the difference in DR is about a full stop or maybe more. So when comparing them to their proper equivalents, Z8 evidently does not have as big of a penalty as Z6iii, because Z8 has a better stacked sensor.
No they should not be scared. Nikon is known for doing one good thing then doing 3 things wrong. My example. The Nikon ZF. What really is so great about this camera. Fuji-film has been doing the retro think for years. Nikon’s new slogan should be “A Day Late and a Dollar Short”. It is a shame. The Nikon D850 was amazing. Nothing so great since then. Nikon Z9 and Z8 are nice, but too expensive with lack of good quality control on the production line (Nikon Z8 recall mess up).
Z9 is actually the cheapest of the 3 flagships ($5,500 vs. $6,300 for the R1 and $6,500 for the A1). The Z8 is basically a Z9 with a few changes to suit the smaller body, for $2,000 less.
Sorry to say it (I am a Nikon user), but despite being an excellent foto camera, the Z6iii has a problem with the dinamic range for video. Flickering and very noisy, magenta und greenish shadows. Watch the videos of Robert May here in RUclips. Nikon should lower the price because of this.
@@deutschhhhh6922Come up with better arguments. Would you say "get a dedicated music player" if the Bluetooth on someone's phone stopped working? Completely retarded way to argue.
If the model has major unwanted skin blemishes then they should consider different work that is not dependent of looking good. The biggest sin in portrait photography is to edit and soften the skin. Portraits need to always be raw and the results of that is the beauty of humans you want to see. Small blemishes add in the photo and taking those away ruin it.
being behind for years - they finally somewhat catch up and yes do a bit better with this model. but it is still 24MP and hundred more then the A7 4 Sony will soon update to A7 5. so we will see. and yes Nikon gets sensors from Sony and NO I do not agree with FN buttons the A7 4 has much nicer buttons. and more FN buttons. I own both 74 and z6II. yes I agree that LCD and EVF a bit better then in A74 but then of course better LCD and EVF means less battery live yes many improved video features and improved focus. so yes a good camera but Sony does not have to worry. we will see what Sony will update I am not sure that the A7C II for less money is worse in tracking AFC I hate that the circle is not a scroll also also also I hate that Play button on left side For those who will buy nothing but Nikon then for the money the z6 iii is a good choice I have always loved Nikon and have owned many. but find the a74 with Play on right side with scroll wheels and 9Fn keys and nicer buttons and 33MP and super good AF. etc but yes LCD and EVF and some new video features give advantage. but it just depends
Scared? No, of course not! No one should be scared of Nikon. After all, there’ll always be naysayers with the “potato” comments, calling the AF “garbage” , all ready to beat down on any kind of Nikon review. There’ll always be gear reviewers ready to portray it negatively for brownie points. Cyber bullying a camera brand (and its users) became all the rage in these last few years. It’s funny and kinda sad too.
What are you even talking about 😅 To say Nikon is at the top again 🤣 Canon R5 II destroys every Nikon mirrorless so far 😂 And I shoot Nikon yes 😊 I myself would never even think about Nikon if colours werent the best in industry 😌 Canon and Sony have released this kind of a camera 3 years ago and are waaay ahead of Nikon. Nikon is at least 3 years behind. To submit my statement I had every great Nikon camera, from D500, D750 , legendary D850 then Z7 II, Z8. When I tried Sony a7r IV it was mindblowing. The build quality, lenses, sharpness, everything. Nikon had great DSLR'S but mirrorless is far from the good old days 😊
Nikon has a very sparse Z lens catalogue with big holes in it. You want to shoot at 400mm..? You’re all good. Fast small f1.4 primes? Bad luck for you. Small, light and affordable? Forget it. The camera isn’t the system. The lenses, Speedlights, macro accessories and so on are the system.
Nobody is pulling 6.5 stops like some fool in lightroom, lets go back to reality land here. There’s no significant difference between the prior Z6ii and Z6iii at real life use case. Others tested it to -5 and it was negligible. Tony picked that very specifically to make the camera look as bad as possible and then used the best DR Z camera he could to contrast it. That’s called a hit job.
@@kalimarus You mean the 4 year old Z5 and the four year old Z7. You are an ignorant fool if you ignore the defects of this new camera. Pre burst jpg only.... well that's gonna be a nice picture... full of noise, but hey, who takes pictures of birds before sunrise or after sunset.
@@csc-photo Go look at dynamic range charts. The Sony A6300 which was released in 2016 has 10.49 stops of DR at base ISO where as the Z6iii has 10.44 stops. The A6300 DR curve matches the Z6iii all the way down to when the Z6iii hits it's 2nd native ISO at 800 and then it slightly pulls ahead.
Nikon needs to give photographers a Z camera. At present they are all bloated with video features that are completely unnecessary for most stills shooters.
We have them already. And actually what Nikon needs is a dedicated cine body (RED...). You'll never see a mirrorless body with no video features. Last one (that I can recall) was the Nikon Df. And as cool as that was, it didn't sell. Omitting video features would actually drive the price of the body way, way up. Very different than a dedicated cine body. Just ignore the little vid/stills switch and you're all set. :)
If you create a mirrorless camera with high burst rate, a good EVF, and fast and accurate focusing, you will inadvertently create a good video camera too. At that point, since you're charging $2,500, you might as well add some video features.
@@csc-photo “it didn’t sell” 🤣🤣🤣 It sold out in Japan in days and there was a very long waiting list that took months to fill. If anything Nikon way underestimated the demand for the camera. Not sure where you get your sales Intel from… under a rock maybe? The Df was intended for a very niche market. Judging by robust sales prices on auction sites and elsewhere it’s clearly still in demand.
That clickbait title, nobody is scared of Nikon, Sony ate all their market share and is now legging down Canon. 🤣 I like your videos but that goofy neon sign is so overpowering its tough to watch all your talking head stuff.
Wtf is this review? Ok, lemme: 1. Who wants to push button for exp.comp? Every single camera has it on dial directly, which Nikon used to forbid. Hope it works now. 2. Amazing camera: slower sensor than z8, lower DR than z8, not that much cheaper than z8. 3. Who wantd high DR anyway? Well pretty much every fking full-frame user. If you dont need it, why would you carry a FF? You can just as well use a m4/3 camera for a better result.
Good luck with finding anything even close to the performance for the price. You can grab a sony that shoots half as fast if you want or a Canon with a crap buffer and baked in noise reduction to fake DR results. The exp comp button is what breaks you, seriously, one click right near the shutter and spin a rear dial is the end of what you can tolerate, but not half the speed cameras? What is this post.
@@kalimarusNikon hater ! I don’t understand those guys. If you’re happy with your current setup then simply go on using it. I’m a fanboy of any brand and I’m happy when other brands release good tech at good price. Simply means my brand will have more pressure to release good products for a good price as well.
Great camera, too bad Nikon Zs have 4 lenses... and no third party options... so thanks, no thanks. I'll stick with Sony, so I can get the lens that I want... and actually be able to get some kind of lenses... makes no sense to pick a brand based on the camera itself, the lenses are what matters, and Sony makes better lenses at cheaper prices, and has Sigma, Tamron, TTArtisan, and many others who make lenses for the E-Mount... hundreds of lenses to choose, instead of a dozen...
Petapixel literally just said the new R5ii Af was not better than the Z8 but on par. Where have you been recently or are you watching reviews from 2020.
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I've never understood people's problem with the previous Z6/Z7 models. Their only disadvantage is their bad subject detection. The autofocus itself, which is not the same thing as subject detection (people always mix that up), is quite fast. Apart from that, great image quality, great colour science, great ergonomics, excellent lenses. And they have always been a bit to a lot cheaper than the equivalent models of Canon and Sony.
A used Z6 is the best you can get for 700-800€ (whatever that is in the UK/US). However, if someone is considering buying a Z6iii, I would highly recommend the Z7ii instead, if you don't need better subject detection and video.
It is a big disadvantage.
it's enough for photography but video needs good subject tracking.
Not a good argument. It's like saying a car having steering problem at high speed.
That "only" disadvantage depends on use case. On one extreme, some famous fashion photographers (like Peter Coulson) still use a Hasselblad H6 professionally.. That thing has a single focusing point, no subject detection at all and in fact, offers less focusing options than a decade old D3100. Obviously any Z6/Z7 is more than usable for such line of work.
On the polar opposite, check out Jared Polin's Canon R5 II video. I mean this is the gold standard in 2024 and no Nikon camera is remotely comparable with this. Especially watch basketball part in that video; Admit it, you would LOVE to have something similar from Nikon. I would.
I find Z7 II's focusing capabilites more comperable to my old D800 than high-end Canon/Sony models. If you want to make sure camera reliably focuses at where its supposed to, you are better off putting focusing point yourself, like a D800. Camera then works fast and accurately; just like a D800... This doesn't make Z7 unusable, D800 was the top dog of its time, near instant fast autofocus, face detection in viewfinder usually works and is capable of tracking fast moving subjects like flying birds or dancers etc. Don't get me wrong, being on similar level as D800 easily puts in "good enough for everying" category but why accept 2015 era technology as "good enough" when you can also buy a Canon which can literally determine who is holding the ball in a basketball game and focus on that guy even before I can even get the composition right?
You need at least a ZF in order to have a satisfying AF experience, as a previous owner of the Z6ii, I HATED it
CF express B is really where cameras should be. Durable, easy to handle and fast.
They're bloody expensive
I've had mine two weeks and it is a very capable camera, I'm loving it!
I shoot with and own many brands, and as a photographer first shooter, I have never had any issues with the Nikon mirrorless brand. I started into mirrorless when the Sony a7rII was released and picked up Nikon's Z6 when it was released. There was a noticeable acquisition speed difference between my Sony and Nikon bodies, but for photography, it always performed flawlessly for me in my portrait and nature work.
I have taken some of my best photos with the first Z6. I can't understand why so many speak poorly of the camera. The operation is intuitive, and the results have always convinced me. I eventually switched systems because I find Sigma lenses so good. I miss my Z6; if I were in a better financial position, I would have kept the Z6 as a second camera. The fact is, when the Z6 was released, it was one of the best cameras on the market.
The Zf has a dedicated exposure compensation dial because it's all about the dials. There are *no* dedicated dials on the Z6III, Z7II, Z8, or Z9. The entire operational approach is "press a button, turn a dial," except for the tasks given to the two dials without a button press. This is how many Nikon cameras have worked for about 35 years.
You're so on, a tuned right hand does not need the carfuffle.
CFX cards are now effectively more affordable than the fastest SD card when you compare speed and capacity. Also RAW file are RAW. I've never known any Nikon camera to apply processing to a RAW file. Noise reduction settings only apply to jpegs.
The one thing that I MUST change in My Nikon Z cameras is,, in the Z6III,,, "f7 RELEASE BUTTON TO USE DIAL" ""TURN IT ON"" then (WHEN YOU TOUCH ANY '"FN"BUTTON,, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO HOLD IT DOWN TILL YOU ARE DONE) push the "FN" button, change the settings then touch any button to finish the change!!!!!!!!!!! TRY IT, YOU MAY THANK ME :) :) :) "Z8,,, f6"
I have never seen typography like this before. Catastrophic! Well done :-)
I see your comment under so many Nikon vids. Definitely under Taylor Jackson's, every one. Good tip, but relax brother.
@@csc-photo I am Relaxed :) Hope it was Helpful !!!!!! :) :) :)
@@csc-photo Oh by the way thanks for Your comment :) :) :)
The Rambo shutter scene
Why are you still using premier?????? I left premier 10+ years ago. Though apparently it’s catching up to resolve.
Good question, Adobe is a shitty corrupt company and there are much better alternatives out there
I am, reluctantly. Mainly because I don't have the time/energy/will power to switch to Resolve. Even though I have no doubt it's the better software. But also because I use PS, LR, AE and other programs in the Adobe suite. Plus, Adobe's AI functions are killer and more are on the way. So... here I am... 🙃
Cfexpress B cards are relatively affordable if not cheaper than comparable v90 cards with way higher read and write speeds
It’s good to see Nikon with a competitive offering in the mid-priced space. The Z6III certainly bests the competitors in certain areas, but hardly worth jumping systems for. Different makes will continue to leapfrog each other with incremental improvements. We’re spoiled with choice. Pick one and be about your work.
No A7RV or GH7-style tilt and flippy screen.That's a big fail. Let's push for this intil it becomes standard!
That would have been great but Nikon was trying to keep the cost down. I would love to have the option of both styles in one body.
@@TheBigNegative-PhotoChannel from nikon perspective flippy screen compromise durability,, but its more expensive to put Z9 screen mechanism to Z6/Z7 s
@ridwanatmawijaya108 you must not know the style of screen the commenter is referring to. Go look it up, it's not the usually flip screen.
@@EricLouisYoung I'm familiar with it. It flips out both ways like the z6 III and the z8. I've seen it.
You mean the s1h screen ? 😅
Agreed. Many people want the camera to do everything for them. Yes, the Z7ii auto focus is not as good as the Canon R5. Yes, the Z9 AF is slightly behind the Canon R3. Despite the shortcoming, the Z7ii will focus accurately if you set it up or select the right focus mode. The Z9 AF will continue to get better with firmware updates. Savvy?
First I think.
Good to see Nikon back to the Fight arena. !
Nikon never left the arena.
The z6 III has a dual gain sensor. From what i saw on another video, from ISO 100 to 800 the camera prioritizes the dynamic range over the noise. Software these days can clean up any noise at those levels. After ISO 800 it prioritizes the noise level over dynamic range. But they say there's not a lot of difference between the z6 III and z6 II. I shoot a lot of milky way photos so I'm waiting for someone to give a review on how it does at ISO 3200 and 6400 at night. I will probably sell my z6 II next year and replace it with the III. The two main things i hate about mirrorless cameras is that the dicuss tracking (because the sensor does the tracking and capturing of the images) and the screen blackout in burst mode. My understanding is that the z6 III has a little blackout when in mechanical shutter but it's like a DSLR. That's only normal because the shutter has to open and close. I can handle that type of blackout. I do not like it blacking out until I let off the shutter button like my z6 II has. The focus tracking on the z6 II is fine for portraits but there's been so many times when i needed it for other things and it didn't work as well. I have the z8 which is better than both of those so even if i keep the z6 II I'm still good. But sometimes i prefer a smaller body to carry around. I do a little street photography and the z8 really stands out even with a pancake lens on.
With the electronic shutter in the Z6III, you'll experience virtually black-out free EVF. Certainly at 20 fps. VERY different than the Z6II (no lag).
@csc-photo a DSLR isn't totally blackout free because of the mirror going up and down as well as the shutter opening and closing. As long as the z6 III is like that I'll be happy with it. The z6 and z6 II completely black out when I'm busy mode. You can't see what you're tracking. I've seen people put a red dot optical in the hot shoe so they can track what they're shooting. I like the looks of the zf but I don't think I'd like the feel of it.
Plenty of quality CF express cards are cheaper than high-end SD cards.
CFX-B cards are not available everywhere, SD cards are. Mid-level SD cards are still less expensive.
@@UnconventionalReasoninghow frequently are you buying them?
@@kjltube I have had to when travelling, when I thought I had enough cards but needed more. Even though I was downloading onto an external hard drive, I did not want to erase the cards until getting home and copying everything to more permanent storage.
The higher quality video formats demand a card beyond the SD format. I’d say CFexpress type B is the best card for this job.
The Z6III does have an SD slot as well.
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Hi, great review!
I really miss a third dial (like you said). And I suffer for limited dials customization (compared to Nikon competitors).
Hope that Nikon modernize his ergonomics.
the crippled dynamic range is a dealbreaker for me. I have a lot of situations with high contrasts where i need to push the shadows.
It's not crippled when you account for 2 things: the fact that Nikon does not bake in noise reduction like some other companies, so when it's applied, the dynamic range differences are very small... and the lower ISO values don't have quite the dynamic range that higher ones do. Beyond these, I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of photographers, pro and hobbyists alike, could not tell a difference when compared to other cameras. These issues are only magnified in the age of internet commenters demanding absolute perfection from any and all products.
I am SO TORN between getting this or the Z8. I dont really need the 45mp, but... DAMN its a oiece of work. That Z6III is everything I could use in a relatively compact amd more affordable package though.
I went with the Z8 just recently. shot with a z6ii for 3 years. The D850 was always my favorite DSLR so this made sense. Don't get me wrong I'm keeping my Z6ii. But I really appreciate the 45mp and the feeling of a "normal" sized camera for my larger hands.
Ps. Those long lenses like the 70-200 & the 180-600mm are a dream on the Z8 and very awkward feeling on the Z6ii
If you can't live without a flippy screen (which btw isn't really useful on really sunny days)then definately the Z6iii
Also not having a mechanical shutter anymore is crazy. I'm really enjoying it. It's an amazing camera I only had it for like 5 days though. Iset it uppretty much exactly tly like my D850 so I'm really feeling at home with this thing.
When it comes to dynamic range, the Z6iii is interesting indeed. According to the data by Photos-to-Photons, the dynamic range at base ISO is 10.4 for the mark 3, while it was 11.2 for the mark 1 and 2. The Z7 goes to 11.6 stops but only because it has a base ISO of 64, at 100. What is interesting is that the Z6iii has a dual gain with a big jump at ISO 800. From that point down it is on par with the previous Z6 models and basically all other full frame cameras. It is only at lower ISO that this sensor is lacking behind, worse even than APS-C models like the Sony A6700 (but it beats these by almost a stop at ISO 800)
And historically lots of cameras with good high ISO performance had relatively worse DR at low ISO. The D5 and D6 have comparatively terrible DR at ISO 100, but we survived.
Nikon also doesn't bake in noise reduction automatically like some other companies. When you account for that, the difference in dynamic range to similarly priced cameras is not much at all.
Awesome review. This could be the biggest upgrade to any lineup. We'll done #Nikon!
I see this as a good thing to be honest. I am looking to get into the full frame camera world (bought a couple of full frame lenses for my A6300 the last couple of years to slowly build up a good kit for when I would make the jump to full frame).
Given that the A7 IV is due for an upgrade in the Sony line-up, I'll probably be buying a new camera next year. I was planning to either get the new A7 V when it comes out or (if the upgrades weren't as substantial) get a A7 IV at a lower price (thanks to the release of the newer model).
Seeing, the Z6 III do so well in reviews, means that Sony will have to make a substantial upgrade with the A7 V. And that's a good thing in my book. Strong competition means better cameras for all of us who are in the market for buying a new one.
On the DR thing - the technical reason is that faster ADCs tend to be noisier. Simple as that. The panic about Z6III's seems to come from Bill Claff's PDR metric, that makes it nearly a stop worse than the Z6II - but then no-one really knows what 'PDR' means, I suspect including its creator. The plain DR is about half a stop worse at low ISO settings, as said likely due to those faster ADCs. But for most normal photographers operating their camera in the normal way, this simply isn't an issue.
@@BobN54 Nikon didn’t learn from Canon and add NR to game that chart haha
@@kalimarus I know Cnon gets marked as NR but I'm not convinced - Bill Claff doesn't tell us how he detects 'NR' and the Canon files don't seem to show much evidence - and if there is no evidence, than what's the problem. I got tired of all the 'Canon vs Nikon' stuff from both sides years ago.
@@BobN54 I personally think both have good sensors and people really don’t need to worry about those charts much. I’m not sure how he measures it either. Pentax I think did this first with an “accelerator” chip that hugely boosts ISO and noise performance by that metric which makes the camera look amazing on a chart, but in reality about the same as any other sensor for editing.
Video in prores is good but takes a lot of computing power to process. 8 sec clip takes 30 mins of processing time. Older f mount lens with ftz isn't good with stabilisation, definitely need the vr z mount lenses for that amazing stabilisation.
I'm still living in DSLR land and seeing mirrorless slowly take on the market and owning canon glass (and a 5d4 and a 70D), I can see myself buying an APS-c mirrorless somewhere in my future,
Why? because my glass is still great and there are loads of second hand lenses that would work well on mirrorless bodies. Lenses that I'd throw straight on are the EF85mm f/1.8, EF50mm f/1.4, EF-s 18-135 stm, 24mm stm, 24-105 f/4 L IS and 70-200 IS II L f/4, plus 60mm macro and 100mm macro L IS.
I wouldn't need to buy the lenses because I own them already.
I would buy a 18-50 f/2.8 sigma lens though as I think that would make a brilliant combo for my kids.
So the soft migration I'll be getting from Canon and all the second hand glass out there is fantastic for me!
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oh wow didnt know utube support the ultrawide video format nice :O
It's the future. One day YT will recognise it, hopefully!
Honestly, the CF Express thing isn't as big as people make it out to be. I bought a Z6 (which has a single CF express slot) last year, and to be completely honest, I thought that this would be one of the things I hate about the Z6 after using it for half a year but it's absolutely not.
Compared to V90 SD cards, CFXB cards are faster and cheaper. They are also faster and cheaper than the smaller CF express type A cards that Sony is using (and also preventing other camera manufacturers from using...). The hybrid slots in Sony cameras are pretty nice,m but since Sony is the only company that uses them, you end up with much lower sales volume which means higher prices. And the Type A standard is slower than the Type B standard, so you end up with slower cards that are more expensive.
Using a Z6 which has a single CFXB slot, I totally removed from my mind any buffer issues, the card is way faster than what the camera can fill, so there absolutely no waiting for shots to be written to the card. On a camera with CFXB + SD, this is a little trickier. I think I would rather have dual slots of the same type, either 2 SD or 2 CFXB (but to this day, only the Z9 and yet to be release Canon R1 have two of these cards). Knowing me, I could shoot this camera and ignore it has an SD slot because of the slower speed and vastly reduced buffer. kind of a shame, but hey what are you gonna do. Even the Z8 and the very new R5 mark II have this issue (R3 as well, for some reason)
The same people complaining are crickets when new cameras like the R5ii have no dual video recording but they’ll cry all day about the Z6iii not having it.
@@kalimarus People latch onto a particular flaw of a camera, and it follows that camera series and it's siblings for years. Every Nikon video has to mention AF tracking, every Canon video has to mention video overheating, every Sony video has to mention the menus.
CFExpress Type B cards are $400-$600 a piece in my part of the world. Crazy design choice by Nikon on a $4400 camera.
@@bradl2636 Crazy design choice to have a single CFX-B slot, or to not have two?
@@UnconventionalReasoningThey should have used two hybrid slots. But the real elephant in the room is they refuse to release a real FF photographer’s camera. These all have unnecessary video features, honking big heavy expensive lens options, and big gaps in the lens catalogue. Just look at the size, weight and cost of that 85mm f1.8. Such a joke.
And then there’s Pentax primarily staying with DSLRs (not complaining, love my Pentax k3 iii), just wish it had the same af, video, and shots per second as a mirrorless.
More like "Zero to Hero"... It's great to see Nikon finally getting it together - way more so than Canon and far and away from Fuji (with their 5 year old AF LOL). I'm seriously looking at getting one, but I do want to see the A7V & A7Siv (which will most likely have the partially stacking sensor too).
If someone evaluated Nikon's previous cameras as "Zero", they need to learn better analytical thinking.
Hey tom, the built quality is he standard on nikon, even in the z30 its an amazing built quality
Good to know! I don't doubt it tbf. I think Nikon has been bullied unfairly for a long time. It's nice to see them doing so well with these recent releases!
Great review! CFE-B & SD works perfectly for me (please, no CFE-A, ever). Had a good laugh at the Rambo clip insert 😆
Currently I have the Z8 & Zf, super combo so I'm not in a rush for the Z6III this year. 180-600 is next on my list. 🤓
Don’t get me wrong I was actually considering the zf which is basically the XT five but in full frame, however it’s just the film simulations are amazing on Fuji and the best part about it. I don’t have to edit. It takes the middleman out and just let me have a good photo out of camera.
Careful everyone!!! I have two Z6IIIs which are probably going back today because of an inexplicable sensor flicker . It’s even there with the lens cap on. Shows up in the EVF. Shows up in the recorded images. Hopefully it’s a bad batch of chips and not a fundamental design flaw. Both serial numbers were below 2100.
My two are good. What did Nikon say was the issue?
@@livejames9374 Too soon for clear answers. I just handed them back to my retailer and will let them sort it out. Headed to another branch now to see if I can find at least one good camera. I just saw someone else post about this issue on the Facebook forum it seems like there’s more than a few of them out there.
@@livejames9374 what range are the serial numbers on your cameras?
this or a panasonic lumix s5iix? more of a video first person but a 50/50 shooter and was already struggling between s5iix and a A7IV. now this is out also..
@@mynameisjohnlu as someone who has both. I say the S5IIX feature for feature and video quality is better. Love my Lumix S5IIX
The Nikon 1 was, in many ways, a lovely camera, but plagued with reliability issues and, in my view, too many variants, as though they were throwing out everything they could think of in the hope that someone would buy something.
When they finally dropped the series, i think they still didn't quite know what mirrors cameras were about, which probably leaked into their Z series design policies.
If i could get a reliable Nikon 1 V5 today -- something they never made -- I'd snap it up today. And, if they had made such a thing, it would probably have pointed the way to whatever came next.
The slightly dumbed down J5 seems to be pretty popular still.
Sony really seems underpowered now like the a7iv and a7siii are really outdated especially for the price
many people still shoot with DSLR cameras and get amazing pictures, I wonder what it is that you’re shooting that you’re missing out on the performance of a modern Sony mirrorless camera, not a Hollywood movie? or maybe some projects for Netflix? funny
@@abercrombie2684 I don’t think there’s anything underpowered about Sony’s current lineup. I like Nikon, and I’m delighted they are finally doing well, but my a7cii is nearly perfect for the shooting I do. And the a7rv is an absolute beast. The lens selection can’t be beat. I think we spend too much time thinking of our camera manufacturers as teams we join and root for like fans. I love Nikon and Panasonic full frame especially, but I can’t afford to have all of them. Sony is awesome too.
@@abercrombie2684 if you talk about shooting good pictures then practically any offering from sony,canon and Nikon can provide beautiful stills, I'm talking about the overall specs, like 6k raw from the new lumix and Nikon, the amazing new autofocus from canon just to name a few, while sony still can't offer the zve10ii with 4k120
They were way ahead of people for almost 10 years or more now. Don't know what underpowered you're talking about.
@@abercrombie2684 its always been artist>>tool, nobody really cares about the brushes used by famous artist they care about the artist himself but this is a discussion about tools and when you are discussing about tools you don't take the artist's talent into consideration.
Canon will likely release the R6 Mark III next year or perhaps the year after (so 2026) so they will leapfrog the Z6 III for sure in their next iteration. This is one market that Sony and Canon will generally stay ahead in because they get their R6 (Canon) and A7 series up to snuff before Nikon did. However, in the higher-end market (the R5/Z8/A7R series) that gets more interesting, since Nikon will update the Z8 before the other two update their cameras again. So Nikon is probably ahead there in that regard. But it's all a game of leapfrog to be honest. Although it will be interesting to see what Nikon does for the Z9... if they'll release a faster Z9 but perhaps at a lower-resolution like say 36-40MP that favors speed over resolution, or what they'll do (maybe fuse two 24MP sensors together with dual Expeed 7's to make a higher-res global shutter system).
How often did the mis-focused eyes problem occur for portraits? Was this 1 in 10, or more like 1 in 100? The tendency for my Nikon cameras to do that is what caused me to leave Nikon a couple of years back. I'd hate to spend thousands of dollars going back for the other Nikon features that I like only to find that the problem isn't really fixed. Thanks!
13:27 Nice! Nikon has finally caught up to Sony with features that Sony has had for generations!! (ok, sarcastic rant over; I honestly applaud Nikon's recent releases)
Hi, I'm looking for a beginner's camera and I need your help, I need a camera that takes high quality photos, I don't care that much about the video and I also need it to be fast. Do you have any camera recommendations?
Zf or z6iii if I don't shoot any video and adore retro stuff?
But the CF Express card slot did look like it takes SD as well and the sticker route above it says so. Did I miss something?
Unfortunately the CFExpress slot is for CFExpress Type B only, at up to CFE 2.0 speeds. The SD card slot supports up to UHS-II SD cards.
I believe 4K 120 is also 10bit not 8bit (but yes it is taken from the Dx area of the sensor)
Apologies, I think you might be right. Thank you for the correction!
Chat I want to upgrade my camera. I'm interested in photo and video work for live concerts and architecture. My options are Sony a7S III, Sony a7 III, Nikon Z7 II, Nikon Z6 III, and Sony a7C II. I'm open for more recs.
Nikon now the best and best lenses
Makes you wonder why and how Lord Zedd got his name in the localization.
GO! GO! POWER RANGERS!
With Nikon's purchase of REDs technology Canon needs to watch its back because I think Nikon is on its Way to producing some serious cinematic cameras.
Why did you change title :(
Now all Nikon gotta do bring out Z7III. I'm happy too see Nikon making an great comeback! I want the Z7 or Z7 II. Long live the F mount! Lmao 😂
But what then is the advantage of a fully stacked sensor over this partially stacked one? I don't understand this
It’s still faster. Stacked sensors also enhance autofocus capability, more data faster so the algorithms can keep up better. It’s not all for rolling shutter benefits.
CMOS chips are silicon. If you put one silicon die on top of other, its stacked, there is nothing that can be "partial" about the process. "partial" probably means its partial as in not everything is that should/could be moved to stacked die was moved. Speculating here but maybe, top layer (sensor itself) is more or less the same as previous Z6 II (including all circuitry) but they added a second stack is just for giving more space row/column activation transistors and required wirings to speed things up.
In either case "partial" just means its a "simpler and cheaper" stacked sensor. Maybe designed to be manufactured at less capable fabs, maybe a simpler second stack for better yields, decreasing cost per chip, maybe less inter-die wiring to improve bonding interface errors.
is that similar to A9 mark 1 sensor?
You should do a video on the Sony RX1R
I have a nikon z6iii and I think they said you can only open 6k video thru davinci
Fully stacked sensors like Z8 do not have the same dynamic range penalty. Exactly why, I don't know
Probably just a better sensor. All sensors are not created equally despite similar type.
They have the same dynamic range penalty. The problem lies to iso test. Z8 can go at iso 64, so the dynamic range is much better. Past 64 iso like 100, 200... it behave almost the same as this Z6 III. The problem is Z6 III doesn't have iso 64, it starts only at iso 100
@@bobamarmstrong But then you just explained why fully stacked doesn't have the same dynamic range "penalty".
Yes they do. A1 has a penalty vs. A7RIV. OM-1 has a penalty vs. E-M5 III. And the Z8/Z9 have a penalty vs. the Z7/Z7ii.
@@bobamarmstrong False comparison method. Compare Z8 to Z7ii which both have ISO64. Z8 only has like 1/3 stop worse dynamic range.
Then compare Z6iii at ISO100 to Z6ii at ISO100, where the difference in DR is about a full stop or maybe more.
So when comparing them to their proper equivalents, Z8 evidently does not have as big of a penalty as Z6iii, because Z8 has a better stacked sensor.
Was not expecting that! 10:00 brilliant!
Also concdering replacing my S5 II for this Z6 III.
WHY?!?
No they should not be scared. Nikon is known for doing one good thing then doing 3 things wrong. My example. The Nikon ZF. What really is so great about this camera. Fuji-film has been doing the retro think for years. Nikon’s new slogan should be “A Day Late and a Dollar Short”. It is a shame. The Nikon D850 was amazing. Nothing so great since then. Nikon Z9 and Z8 are nice, but too expensive with lack of good quality control on the production line (Nikon Z8 recall mess up).
Z9 is actually the cheapest of the 3 flagships ($5,500 vs. $6,300 for the R1 and $6,500 for the A1). The Z8 is basically a Z9 with a few changes to suit the smaller body, for $2,000 less.
Sorry to say it (I am a Nikon user), but despite being an excellent foto camera, the Z6iii has a problem with the dinamic range for video. Flickering and very noisy, magenta und greenish shadows. Watch the videos of Robert May here in RUclips.
Nikon should lower the price because of this.
Then get a dedicated video camera
@@deutschhhhh6922Come up with better arguments. Would you say "get a dedicated music player" if the Bluetooth on someone's phone stopped working? Completely retarded way to argue.
I very much am more interested in where Fuji and Pentax are going.
It is a great camera but not sure competition needs to be scared.
If the model has major unwanted skin blemishes then they should consider different work that is not dependent of looking good. The biggest sin in portrait photography is to edit and soften the skin. Portraits need to always be raw and the results of that is the beauty of humans you want to see. Small blemishes add in the photo and taking those away ruin it.
The z6iii has a devastating flaw in the video exposure jumping. Once they fix it ill get one.
This is Nikon’s A7iii moment.
@@Re-InCarNation 🙄
0:54 as cannons lineup continues to look like a set of amorphous blobs?
I do love nikon colours.
I can’t see the point of another Nikon Z6 iii camera review, seriously there must be hundreds already out there already. 🤷🏻♂️
being behind for years - they finally somewhat catch up and yes do a bit better with this model. but it is still 24MP and hundred more then the A7 4
Sony will soon update to A7 5. so we will see. and yes Nikon gets sensors from Sony and NO I do not agree with FN buttons
the A7 4 has much nicer buttons. and more FN buttons. I own both 74 and z6II. yes I agree that LCD and EVF a bit better then in A74 but then of course better LCD and EVF means less battery live yes many improved video features and improved focus. so yes a good camera but Sony does not have to worry. we will see what Sony will update I am not sure that the A7C II for less money is worse in tracking AFC I hate that the circle is not a scroll also
also also I hate that Play button on left side For those who will buy nothing but Nikon then for the money the z6 iii is a good choice I have always loved Nikon and have owned many. but find the a74 with Play on right side with scroll wheels and 9Fn keys and nicer buttons and 33MP and super good AF. etc
but yes LCD and EVF and some new video features give advantage. but it just depends
Scared? No, of course not! No one should be scared of Nikon. After all, there’ll always be naysayers with the “potato” comments, calling the AF “garbage” , all ready to beat down on any kind of Nikon review. There’ll always be gear reviewers ready to portray it negatively for brownie points. Cyber bullying a camera brand (and its users) became all the rage in these last few years. It’s funny and kinda sad too.
I love my nikon j3, i dont know why people hate that master piece
Not Sony, which makes the sensors for Nikon Cameras, as well as for Fuji, OM Systems and Hasselblad plus many phones !!!
What are you even talking about 😅
To say Nikon is at the top again 🤣 Canon R5 II destroys every Nikon mirrorless so far 😂
And I shoot Nikon yes 😊
I myself would never even think about Nikon if colours werent the best in industry 😌
Canon and Sony have released this kind of a camera 3 years ago and are waaay ahead of Nikon. Nikon is at least 3 years behind.
To submit my statement I had every great Nikon camera, from D500, D750 , legendary D850 then Z7 II, Z8.
When I tried Sony a7r IV it was mindblowing. The build quality, lenses, sharpness, everything.
Nikon had great DSLR'S but mirrorless is far from the good old days 😊
Nikon has a very sparse Z lens catalogue with big holes in it. You want to shoot at 400mm..? You’re all good. Fast small f1.4 primes? Bad luck for you. Small, light and affordable? Forget it. The camera isn’t the system. The lenses, Speedlights, macro accessories and so on are the system.
Asking for a camera please
Now try to highlight dark parts. See the Tony and Chelsea video.
Nobody is pulling 6.5 stops like some fool in lightroom, lets go back to reality land here. There’s no significant difference between the prior Z6ii and Z6iii at real life use case. Others tested it to -5 and it was negligible. Tony picked that very specifically to make the camera look as bad as possible and then used the best DR Z camera he could to contrast it. That’s called a hit job.
@@kalimarus You mean the 4 year old Z5 and the four year old Z7. You are an ignorant fool if you ignore the defects of this new camera. Pre burst jpg only.... well that's gonna be a nice picture... full of noise, but hey, who takes pictures of birds before sunrise or after sunset.
@@kalimarus lol exactly. its a shame that people still watch those two do tests.
Tony and Chelsea 😂
Long live the potato
It is now a RED Potato...
Dynamic range is 2016 Sony APS-C level. Hard pass
Incorrect / do the math.
@@csc-photo Go look at dynamic range charts. The Sony A6300 which was released in 2016 has 10.49 stops of DR at base ISO where as the Z6iii has 10.44 stops. The A6300 DR curve matches the Z6iii all the way down to when the Z6iii hits it's 2nd native ISO at 800 and then it slightly pulls ahead.
Z6iii isnt going to be nikon's biggest hit yet. Not by a long shot.
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8:14 🤣
And in my opinion as soon as they gave it that damn side hinged flippy, conspicuous, obtrusive rear screen it was right back to potato.
Well the photo dynamic range of it sucks so the answer is no
Three out of three? More like four out of four (forgot the Z9).
Now that you already own a Nikon, throw away the equipment you use to shoot video, the colors are terrible
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Not really a fan of this wannabe movie aspect ratio thing 😅
Nikon needs to give photographers a Z camera. At present they are all bloated with video features that are completely unnecessary for most stills shooters.
We have them already. And actually what Nikon needs is a dedicated cine body (RED...). You'll never see a mirrorless body with no video features. Last one (that I can recall) was the Nikon Df. And as cool as that was, it didn't sell. Omitting video features would actually drive the price of the body way, way up. Very different than a dedicated cine body. Just ignore the little vid/stills switch and you're all set. :)
@@csc-photo Nope
If you create a mirrorless camera with high burst rate, a good EVF, and fast and accurate focusing, you will inadvertently create a good video camera too. At that point, since you're charging $2,500, you might as well add some video features.
@@csc-photo “it didn’t sell”
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It sold out in Japan in days and there was a very long waiting list that took months to fill. If anything Nikon way underestimated the demand for the camera.
Not sure where you get your sales Intel from… under a rock maybe?
The Df was intended for a very niche market.
Judging by robust sales prices on auction sites and elsewhere it’s clearly still in demand.
@@FawfulDied Very few shooters demand a high burst rate. That’s not the target niche. That’s why sports and wildlife oriented cameras already exist.
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That clickbait title, nobody is scared of Nikon, Sony ate all their market share and is now legging down Canon. 🤣 I like your videos but that goofy neon sign is so overpowering its tough to watch all your talking head stuff.
That's racist
Copycat Olympus OM-1II
Wtf is this review? Ok, lemme:
1. Who wants to push button for exp.comp? Every single camera has it on dial directly, which Nikon used to forbid. Hope it works now.
2. Amazing camera: slower sensor than z8, lower DR than z8, not that much cheaper than z8.
3. Who wantd high DR anyway? Well pretty much every fking full-frame user. If you dont need it, why would you carry a FF? You can just as well use a m4/3 camera for a better result.
You are right. This "review" is bullshit.
Wtf is this review
Good luck with finding anything even close to the performance for the price. You can grab a sony that shoots half as fast if you want or a Canon with a crap buffer and baked in noise reduction to fake DR results. The exp comp button is what breaks you, seriously, one click right near the shutter and spin a rear dial is the end of what you can tolerate, but not half the speed cameras? What is this post.
@@kalimarusNikon hater ! I don’t understand those guys. If you’re happy with your current setup then simply go on using it. I’m a fanboy of any brand and I’m happy when other brands release good tech at good price. Simply means my brand will have more pressure to release good products for a good price as well.
@@animook1 you can assign the exposure compensation to the lens ring and and you won't have to press any button.
Great camera, too bad Nikon Zs have 4 lenses... and no third party options... so thanks, no thanks. I'll stick with Sony, so I can get the lens that I want... and actually be able to get some kind of lenses... makes no sense to pick a brand based on the camera itself, the lenses are what matters, and Sony makes better lenses at cheaper prices, and has Sigma, Tamron, TTArtisan, and many others who make lenses for the E-Mount... hundreds of lenses to choose, instead of a dozen...
The Nikon AF is still garbage compared to Canon and Sony.
Skill issue
I think you mean Fuji and not Nikon!
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@@muttishelfer9122 you have no clue
Petapixel literally just said the new R5ii Af was not better than the Z8 but on par. Where have you been recently or are you watching reviews from 2020.