My grandparents fostered newborn babies going through withdrawl in the 50's. They took in dozens of babies over the years and held them 24/7 until the babies were clean. It was hard but it was rewarding.
Your grandparents are such sweethearts ❤. All this babies learn, the start was very rough, but 2 peoples stand together and say we don't give up and let them be without love and care.
She knew she couldn't give her the life she wanted because of her drug addiction. She knew she couldn't raise her daughter because she'd rather keep doing opioids instead of raising her. It's both selfless and selfish.
Adoption is the only way because she’s too weak to get over her addiction. She chose drugs over her daughter and that’s as simple as it gets. If she cared, she could get clean, but she’s selfish.
@Sniperboy5551 thats just not the way it is people with addictions brain completely change think of brain damage. And the drugs also alter perception imagine trying to make the right decisions with a brain that is damaged and a drug that alters perception its very difficult. Never judge until you have been there.
My son and his wife adopted a little girl (my first granddaughter) who's mother was a drug addict. This isn't an accurate account. She was in the NICU for three weeks. They gave her morphine to help the withdrawals. She had all the tubes running in and out of her. It was very scary. She's a happy, healthy 2 year old now. I love her so much.
If the mother gave birth in a hospital they could've started weening the baby straight away, they said here the baby could've been up to a week old and presumably at that point hadn't had any opioids. I have no idea how drug withdrawal works (and being a parent of a child who was born addicted you probably know more about it so maybe you'd know) but I'm curious if there would be a case where if they baby had gone a certain amount of time without the drug they were born addicted to, would it be more harmful than good to give them the drug to just wean them again? Obviously medical shows get things wrong all the time and sometimes purposefully for shock or plot but I'm wondering if there are cases where if the babys gone too long without you'd just let them finish going through the withdrawal?
@@ameliarose47 Without treatment a baby that was born addicted would have a very rough start. Could even die. So yeah, they definitely take liberties with facts. That baby looked more than a week old and relatively healthy. My granddaughter was 2 weeks premature. Tiny. They did try to do as much skin to skin as possible, but coming off the drugs they had to keep her on the morphine so her system could gradually wean off. She's still in physical and occupational therapy, but doing well.
@@ameliarose47 Yep, opiate withdrawal is pure hell. The duration of the withdrawals depends on different factors. A week out with no more opiates for the baby and she has probably gone thru the worst of the acute withdrawals, but could still have some painful symptoms, which would need treatment. A knowledgeable doc would know the best way to proceed. Now, if the mother was on and off heroin and also receiving methadone doses in between binges, that is another story - methadone is worse to come off of than the original opiate and has a much longer withdrawal duration (weeks). Methadone or suboxone are still a much better choice than to keep using, just be aware of their long half-life. Many of these suboxone docs are in it for the cash flow. They don't take insurance, charge ridiculous prices and lie about the time and effort it takes to taper off the sub. I wouldn't advise sub for more than a couple of weeks to get the patient thru acute withdrawals - the same way benzos are used for alcohol withdrawal. Please excuse my extended comments. I am not a doctor - consult with a professional who is an addiction specialist. My message is to be careful about choosing a detox/treatment program. There are plenty of excellent facilities out there with doctors and staff who understand what you are going through with many being recovering addicts/alcoholics themselves.
The part where Helen was feeding the baby was so heartwarming. She was falling in love with baby Zerah. When Helen volunteered to do the skin-on-skin contact, it was like Max didn't want her to do it. Not sure why he would be opposed to it, unless he feared she would contemplate adopting the baby once her heart was involved. Further, if the child's mother had the father's number, why didn't she call him in the first place? Why "safe haven surrender" the baby, and then call the father? It makes no sense. My goodness, poor Helen; she just pours out her heart in the most selfless ways, and endures the hurt silently. She so desperately wants to be a Mum. Her Sharpwin fans want her to be a Mum too...w/Max's baby of course. 🥰
Never knew I could love babies so much. I can’t see them crying, I can’t explain the feeling but as soon as I see/hear babies crying I hold them close to my chest and it works by calming them. I don’t care about the rest but I know I will be a good mother 💯
I will say I like how they handle this in this show. If this were Chicago Med, the doctors would have been judging the whole family and causing every problem in the world for the parents.
@@ChristineTheHippie I was just about to say the same thing lmao She can't stay objective to save her life, it is her way or no way, and she gets super defensive when she gets called out on her bs
We adopted 2 little boys that were drug affected. They turn 9 tomorrow and are amazing and bright and loved. They made our family whole. I try not to be angry with their birth parents. Some days are harder than others though.
I get it. But let me explain a small amount. The anger is because the babies are my cousin's sons. His first daughter broke a Washington state record for having the most amount of drugs in her system for a newborn. She was in a specialized unit for almost a month, where she screamed non-stop because of the withdrawal from the opiates and meth and 7 other substances. Then the twins came, drug affected and Hep C+. Shortly after, mom went to prison, and dad took off. I had the boys for 9 months before she was released early. I was simply their caregiver until she got back on her feet. We got her a job, a car, and an apartment trying to help in any way possible. She would come and get them and commit acts of prostitution and do drug deals while the boys were in the same room. Plus, they were letting the boys stay with a known sex offender who just so happened to like little boys. We ended up paying $30,000 in court costs, fighting and begging my cousin and his girlfriend to just let them stay with us while they cleaned up. Instead, they told lies about us on the internet and in court and tried their very best to make sure we looked bad. I love their parents, but some days, I simply can't wrap my head around it all. And others, it hurts my heart that my joy is wrapped up in another's brokenness. I was not planning on having more. My husband and I have a 27 year old and twins who are 24. And we now have 2 grandbabies. Twin babies at 38 was not in my plan. 😊 I thought. But, I took the boys out of love for my family. My cousin, my aunt and uncle. We adopted them because they needed us. Any way you look at it, every emotion has been felt. Most of the time, I have peace. But occasionally, when my sweet little boys want to know why they can't meet their mama, my anger and hurt get the best of me.
@@briggyb there is always good people and bad people. I know you think it is not allowed to hate your blood relative and I cant either. But sometimes, deep down we just realize how bad of a person they are, for their actions, for their choices.. Salute to your husband, not everyone will agree in that age...
So glad that the writers did some research about NAS. Skin-to-skin with mum and breastfeeding on demand is the best treatment. I’ve seen the difference, first hand, between babies in the NICU whose mums are in a really bad way and can’t/won’t spend enough time with their babies and mums who do. The babies who are close to mum at all times and allowed to breastfeed on demand often don’t need morphine. The babies that aren’t given that care and attention from their mum and are left in the noisy, brightly lit NICU usually need morphine and a long hospital stay, sometimes months.
I felt bad for Helen when she gave the baby up to her birth father. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm glad that the baby's father came and took her, but I think that Helen would have been an amazing mother to her
@@NYD666that’s Wendy the mother. Not Helen. And even then opioids and addiction in general is hard to quit. Pregnancy doesn’t just give you superhuman strength to quit something. She’s a woman who got injured and then got prescribed an addictive substance. She deserved sympathy.
@NYD666 obviously someone who never had or a love one with an opioid addiction. Did you listen? SHE HAD A BAD FALL and was prescribed it. That’s how MOST opioid addiction starts. Opioids and cigarettes are the hardest things to beat. Get educated and grow some compassion
After being on UNIT and saving the world a bunch of times, she decided it was better to just return to being a doctor (in the US this time) to be as far away of 10 as possible 😅 Glad she found peace 😂
@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012please stop policing people's speech I'll talk however I please. They can say girl dad if they want to get the hell over it.
What do you mean a "girl dad"? 😂 if a guy has a daughter, is that not being a father to a girl? Oh wait, almost forgot that men are barely expected to parent at all, so when he actually steps up, does the basics of loving and raising a kid he's a magical, wonderful daddy 🥺 wow so special he's being a parent! Same thing as when ppl heap praise on the father for "babysitting" literally once -_-
I've had to take opiates for a few weeks after developing bilateral hairline fractures in my feet. When I went cold turkey off after finishing my prescription, I felt AWFUL. I had horrible mood swings, I was lethargic, I almost fainted twice ... I only lasted 36 hours before I went to outpatients and begged to either be weaned off of what I was taking or be given something to stop the symptoms. I feel so much for the mother and baby characters here: regarding the mom, it's so easy to get hooked on them even when you're careful and even when you're taking the lowest dose. For the baby, given what I went through those 36 hours, I know it was hell for her. Everything hurts you and makes you upset when you have withdrawals and its terrible.
I’m on long term fentanyl, morphine and oxynorm. And will be until I die. I ran out a day early as the pharmacy didn’t have the stock in and I felt horrendous. I get zero side effects off taking them now and they gave me a quality of life I could have only dreamed of, even if it won’t be for long. Thankfully iv got my son already, people need to try and stop judging what they don’t know, addiction is a disease still, however awful it may be. Im glad your okay now
@@lauracoates8026me too. I take oxycodone daily for chronic pain and the quality of life they give me is incredible compared to not having them. I’m not addicted, I’m dependent. I ran out this week and the same thing happened and I’m in bed feeling terrible. I’ve not increased my dose in 5 1/2 years. I’m proud of that, because the last thing I want is to be escalating the dose until it becomes unmanageable.
A good doctor would have given you a prescription to decrease the amount gradually over at least 3 weeks. It would have been way easier. It's a shame you have to go through that. Congrats for not becoming addicted. Opioids are not bad. They are great to handle pain, but unfortunately, patients are not given enough explanations...
Your story shines a light on how little training doctors get on pain management and how opoids actually work. You should have been given a taper schedule to reduce or eliminate the withdrawal. Also the doctor could have reduced the dose for you as you may be very reactive to opoiods. Unlike myself where I've always been under medicated because I metabolize quickly and and partly resistant to opoids (I have DNA testing for medications to prove it.)
It is suspected that I could have permanent issues because I was removed from my mother immediately after birth for weeks (not her fault, I came out basically dead). My mental health is permanently at risk because of something I can't even remember. I'm lucky I did get the attention I needed after the first month or so, because much longer and I'd definitely have an attachment disorder. My cousin is not so lucky - he didn't have proper parental care for several months. (complex story)
I have a family member that does opioids. Almost constantly. We aren't close by any means. My grandmother worries about her, she's in and out of the house leaving her baby with her most times so she can get high. She keeps saying that she will change for the better and go to rehab but she never does. She has but worn out her support system and the only left believing in her right now is only a few people. I hope she gets better but I also hope that baby can have a proper mother.
My daugher's mother checked into rehab and has been sober and in recovery for 10 years, and has been a positive influence. It is good that my daughter has a mother. Your grandmother and other family members should make the time to visit some al anon meetings where family members of addicts can talk and learn. The entire family is being afflicted by the disease of addiction--and treating every family member can help--not just the addict. I hope you don't mind me offering unsolicited advice.
Is the grandmother able to suit for custody? It sounds like the baby would be much safer with her... I know it's a tough situation for a family but sometimes cutting off access to the child is the best thing that can happen for it, it may even shake the mother into actually following through with rehab to regain access to visitations... no judgement if it's not something your family won't consider, btw, each family has its own dynamics to navigate.
So, my dad’s cousin is an alcoholic. We knew she drank during her first few weeks of pregnancy and when the baby came out, she passed on the physical characteristics of FADS to the baby. Small face, flat midline of face, wide forehead, and etc. Luckily, she has normal mental functions and very smart. But if my dad’s uncle and Aunt didn’t stop their daughter from drinking, I shudder to think of the intentional harm that she could’ve passed to the bay. FUN FACT: When you get your food and drink license when you work in the US as a waiter or cashier, even if the woman you’re serving looks pregnant, you’re not allowed to refuse her service? Because for all you know, she’s just big. She can sue you for discrimination, so it’s kinda an iffy situation for both parties.
That's not so fun a fact... if it is super clear baby bump on a tiny frame you should be able to refuse. It's basically forcing the waiter to enable damage to a baby.
@Mary-sh2bp The burden is not on the establishment to refuse you, it’s on the mother to stop drinking. If she can’t do that, she better get an abortion. You can’t coddle people and expect them to act like adults.
Just noticed that the writing in this episode was out of order. Helen looked surprised when Max said that the baby's father was there. Then in the next scene, Max asked the baby daddy "why did Wendy change her mind and want Dr. Sharpe to call you?"
How do they know the baby is suffering from NAS? Do they take blood samples or is it an outward evaluation? What is the treatment and how long does it take for the baby to get "clean"?
They use the Finnegan Score, plus blood samples. Depending on the type of drug the baby is addicted to, controlled doses of medication are used. E.g. in opiod addiction, morphine or methadone to try to stabilise they baby. The doses are slowly reduced after 7 - 10 days. The baby in the clip is a healthy baby, so you don't get a real sense of what an actual NAS baby looks like or sounds like. The reality is heartbreaking
My cousin was born drug addicted at 5 months gestation. She was a living miracle and fought hard to survive. She grew up having 4 kids of her own 2 drug addicted themselves. She was found dead a week ago from heroin/fentanyl overdose.
Also- NAS (neonatal abstinence disorder) can happen in some anti depressants and anti anxiety meds as well. A lady in my ward had to have her baby do the scoring every few hours because of the medication she had to take.
She abandons the baby at the hospital and the father shows up. Mean while she could have just given the baby to him to take care of, if he could provide safe housing and care for the child. She was living on the street using with a new born baby in a duffel bag. This is just sad and probably common in real life
In the video the father explained that they broke up and he moved away, so the woman probably didn't even know where he was or was even interested in raising the baby
Why assume the father is competent to care for the baby? A healthy white baby -- especially a girl -- is worth a LOT of $ on the black market! Father may be a good guy or he may be a monster; no way to know without investigating the guy AND his family.
That happened to someone I know personally. He went to see the mother & child in the hospital. He was informed the mother left, but the baby was still in the hospital. He had to go through a LOT of things to get his child, but thankfully, he got her and has remained a single parent to his daughter for the past 7 years.
@@mushiralightfoot924Which is kind of stupid. Fathers shouldn't have to do anything to claim their own child. A simple DNA test (to confirm paternity) and a background check (safety reasons) should be enough to let a man claim his children.
I hope the father knows that he can never let the mother around that child again not until she gets fully clean otherwise the child will be taken away from him as well
The mother already surrendered her rights to the child. When mothers decide not to keep their child, if they surrender at a hospital. They have to sign a form saying she is giving up her parental rights to the child. No questions will be asked but once that paper is put into records, she can never claim that child again. By law, that dad will now have full custody of her. He can allow the mom to visit if she wants but he's the one who gets to raise the baby now.
Well the baby actor is too calm and healthy to be with NAS😂 I saw actual cases in various docus and they are just ..... miserable. It's the worst legacy a parent can pass down to their child.
Not CPS; they are useless for situations like this. The first person you contact is the father of the child to see if he wants the baby. Which obviously he wanted the baby based on his reaction but CPS would of stolen that baby from him.
That should have been actual skin to skin contact, just resting baby on her upper chest with a blanket over them both. Skin to skin means so much, that doesn't work as well through clothes.
legally they’d have to contact cps or police would they not? a drug addict can’t be fit to be a “parent” they do what’s safest and best for the childs sake and safety ❤
If the mother had stayed or left without warning. I do believe CPS would/could have been involved. But sense she left and willingly gave her up there's no need, specially sense the dad showed up.
Legally she couldn’t. If the biographical father wants the baby then legally it goes to him. I think they have to see if the baby has relatives that are willing to take the baby in.
@@WhitneypyantBut the baby needs a mother figure. Boys do better in life when they have their father or an older male role model to look up to. Same applies to girls; they need their mother or older female role model. Sharpe could be that mother figure for the baby. Or if nothing else, if the dad gets a new GF then I hope she will be a good stepmom for her.
How was she able to keep him that clean though as for clothes? Poor babies it breaks the heart..the decision is already made for him 😢 I've seen an episode on SBSK about it.. what a tragedy 😢
Helen so wanted to adopt that baby and one day that kid fictionally speaking would probably ask it's Daddy how it got its name and its daddy would tell how it got its name and who gave it to them.
I can't, nor will I ever understand how a mother can knowingly do that to their child. She said that she tried, but she didn't try hard enough to quit. She didn't even give that precious little girl a name, even if she planned to surrender her, she deserved a name. I don't understand how she could walk away from her child either. I tried to walk away from my daughter, and her cries got my heart, and I was already crying, and wanting to turn around, and I heard her crying, and I turned around, and I ran to her. If I was doing hard core drugs, and I got pregnant, I'd have myself in rehab so fast it'd make people's heads spin. I'd also have myself with a social worker who would help me to stay clean, and be a good Momma, and help me to provide for my daughter, and I'd even take parenting classes. At least that precious little angel had the doctor and her Daddy to take care of her.
“didn’t try hard enough to quit” have you, in a day of your life, been addicted to opioids? would you ever say this to a non-tv actress addict? how disgusting of you to speak like that even if it’s a show, seriously. you’re a good mother, i get that, and what you said is something that is SO good, SO lovely, but don’t you ever say it like you know EXACTLY how you would go when struggling with addiction.
I worked with unhoused people including many mothers who lost their babies/kids. Addiction is highly correlated to trauma. You are yelling at deeply traumatized people without support systems or life skills that are in more pain than they can process 😢 but that’s the point, they aren’t you. Or they would have made better choices too. That’s the fun of getting to know people in these situations 😔 you find out that the people abusing their babies or their partners were themselves abused by their parents; they never had a chance. And their parents were probably abused by their own parents and there are so many uncountable layers of intergenerational trauma that it’s hard for medical professionals to even treat effectively if they had all the resources in the world (which they never do). These people are human too, humans who need your help 😢 you will be more effective at helping babies and children if you give their parents the care they so desperately need. Remember that they themselves were children once 😭
@@mistressofthedark1476 You really are lucky you've never suffered with addiction. I'm happy for anyone who's never been through it. It's easy to say, "Well, if it were me, I'd be do this, not do that". Addiction, especially opioid addiction is pure hell. No one takes a drug in hopes of becoming addicted. Sometimes they're prescribed a highly addictive med for an injury/surgery/chronic pain, sometimes they just try something & they're hooked. The majority of addicts become addicted bc of undiagnosed/diagnosed mental illness, trauma, a***e. They try a substance, it numbs the pain mentally, physically, emotionally & they continue to use which leads to full blown dependency. It's not just physical dependency, it's mental as well. I worked at a care facility that homed newborns to 60yr olds who'd been dumped on the doorstep the day they opened. I've worked in several care facilities & I can't even tell you how many mother's I've seen who were prescribed a medication, had been on a medication for years, got pregnant, had to continue the meds they needed, but their doctors just told them it would be ok, the baby would probably only have to be observed for a couple days & them be born fully addicted, needing serious intervention. We had mentally/physically disabled patients where the family tried to take care of them at home but it was too much & they got caretaker exhaustion & resentment which led to a***e. We had NAS babies who were surrendered. You name it, we took care of them. I bonded with an 8mth old baby who was hiv+, mother died during labor, dad was in a halfway house. You had to suit up when caring for the baby & had to be very careful. Ppl were scared to even be in his room. He needed physical touch & care to thrive. I'd put my cover on, hold & rock him every break or lunch I got. It's heartbreaking seeing innocent babies suffering bc of their circumstance. But, I just can't judge an addict for their addiction bc I have no idea what led them down that path. Not saying you wouldn't do what you say you'd do, but it's easy to think or say you could never or you'd do this or that. But, until you've been there, you have no idea what you would/wouldn't actually do. It's all situational, circumstantial. Not black & white.
Well first off opioid addiction is treated like drug addiction; bad thing to happen regardless of gender. Second off it is in fact not just her body while she's pregnant. If a woman decides to keep it, or doesn't have the means to abort, then she is responsible for not injesting anything that could affect the baby. It's extremely illegal to drink while pregnant. Pregnant women are discouraged from eating fish or drinking caffeine as those chemicals can affect the baby. And above all else: NO DRUGS!!! That woman should of been arrested at the hospital for both illegal drug use and child endangerment which does apply to unborn children even in pro abortion states.
That infant would have been in worse shape than the show portrays and so would mom. After working with addicts that were pregnant and parenting I have seen this firsthand.
A baby can not be “addicted” because they are not capable of compulsive drug use despite negative consequences. Babies can be born physically dependent on drugs due to their mother’s substance use disorder.
they literally are given everything the mother is so if the mother is taking opioids they will be dependent on opioids and need to be weened and helped w withdrawal. babies are born addicted everyday. it's not about what they themselves did it's about their bodies physical and chemical response bc of those drugs. they don't have a conscious to know what's going on but their brain and body already does.
@@leabee8101 reread my comment. Dependence is not the same as addiction. The literal medical definition of addiction is “a chronic, relapsing disorder characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use despite adverse consequences. Addiction includes craving, loss of control in using the substance, compulsion to use, and continued use despite harm. A baby is not capable of seeking drugs. Babies born to mothers who take drugs are born with Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome because they are simply born with symptoms of withdrawal. Withdrawal is from being physically dependent. Everyone needs to stop saying that “babies are born addicted to drugs” because it’s stigmatizing and inaccurate.
@@kari1032 The "compulsive drug seeking" is because of dependence hello?? the body is dependent on it so it HAS to have it. if the body doesn't have it then it might die or it thinks it will. that's the definition of dependence lol. the brain is a lot more advanced at birth than people think the baby just doesn't have complete consciousness yet. they can tell you when they're hungry, thirsty, tired, full diaper, etc. and a lot of babies will cry for drugs despite not knowing what they are or ever having seen them because they can FEEL and experience the effects through the mother because they are deadass connected. babies going through withdrawal and dying from withdrawal symptoms wouldnt be a thing if it wasnt true. your body is you and your mind is you whether youre conscious of it or not. stigmatizing against who exactly? no one is ever upset at a baby being born addicted to drugs. its a sad reality that no one wants to see or hear about but it happens. it SHOULD be stigmatized wtf??
@@kari1032not sure why the distinction is so important. There is technical definitions and social use of a word. Also, you cannot even be addicted without physical dependency. There is they psychological aspect of addiction and the physical aspect and the emotional aspect. Maybe it is YOUR definition that is...a little... short sighted.
@@alyssaheller7860 yes you can have addiction without dependency. Ever heard of gambling, shopping, p0rn, or sex addiction. It’s an important distinction because addiction is a diagnostic disease that requires different treatments and resources than physical dependency.
I feel like the scene with her feeding the baby would have made more sense if she was wearing a tanktop for the skin-to-skin. Maybe not fully nude for TV but there was literally no skin-to skin. 🤷🏽
Sure, women should not do drugs while pregnant and it is terrible for that baby but problems with addiction are rarely black and white. Addiction is a disease. You can’t control it. Once you are already addicted quitting is incredibly hard. Your brain is rewired to want the drug all the time and you can’t help it. If you try, you feel terrible and sick unless you get more. This woman admitted to trying to become clean and that is often the case. Addiction is treated with much care and there is a lot of stigma so getting help is hard and people don’t always know how. Willpower doesn’t stop addiction. Wanting to be clean is very rarely enough. Also, Medical care in general, in the US at least, is not great for pregnant women and is expensive. Making getting care for addiction easier and getting these women in rehab should be the goal, not putting them in jail. Jail does not help and often makes these problems worse. After release, 68% of drug offenders are rearrested within 3 years.
During beginning of COVID, my SIL and I got stuck in another country and a few months later, she gave birth, borders were closed and couldn't get home, baby was born addicted to narcotics and he would scream non stop. One day she left the hospital and said she doesn't want to see her baby anymore, so nurses and doctors asked me if I could hold him as much as possible to soothe him, but I don't like holding babies, even if they are quiet, I don't like physical contact (hence why I cannot have a partner, I dont even like being hugged), when he isn't quiet, he is screaming and screeching so much it triggers my migraines and tinnitus. He would scream so bad he would turn bright red, gasp for air, shake and when he would actually have physical contact, he would settle down immediately, calm down and even smile a few times, but I couldn't stand it, so I put him down and he spent next 4 weeks screaming in his crib, rooting and reaching out to hold onto someone. The hospital was also understaffed so he was never held, only contact he had was diaper changes, baths and he was fed from this hands free bottle holder. I don't care if I am a horrible person, but if I cannot even have a partner due to hate being touched, even by family, I won't make an exception for a clingy, screechy baby. I cannot just 'turn off' my brain to be comfortable being touched by someone else.
My grandparents fostered newborn babies going through withdrawl in the 50's. They took in dozens of babies over the years and held them 24/7 until the babies were clean. It was hard but it was rewarding.
That's beautiful ❤️
This is why wraps are amazing things too.
If you do this, it makes holding them 24/7 so much easier.
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Your grandparents are such sweethearts ❤. All this babies learn, the start was very rough, but 2 peoples stand together and say we don't give up and let them be without love and care.
That is amazing of them!
I felt for Helen as I know how it feels knowing that adoption is the only way. she was so close to being a mum.
She knew she couldn't give her the life she wanted because of her drug addiction. She knew she couldn't raise her daughter because she'd rather keep doing opioids instead of raising her.
It's both selfless and selfish.
Adoption is the only way because she’s too weak to get over her addiction. She chose drugs over her daughter and that’s as simple as it gets. If she cared, she could get clean, but she’s selfish.
@Sniperboy5551 thats just not the way it is people with addictions brain completely change think of brain damage. And the drugs also alter perception imagine trying to make the right decisions with a brain that is damaged and a drug that alters perception its very difficult. Never judge until you have been there.
@@Sniperboy5551Helen is the dr. Adoption is the only way because she can not carry a baby. Lol.
My son and his wife adopted a little girl (my first granddaughter) who's mother was a drug addict. This isn't an accurate account. She was in the NICU for three weeks. They gave her morphine to help the withdrawals. She had all the tubes running in and out of her. It was very scary. She's a happy, healthy 2 year old now. I love her so much.
If the mother gave birth in a hospital they could've started weening the baby straight away, they said here the baby could've been up to a week old and presumably at that point hadn't had any opioids. I have no idea how drug withdrawal works (and being a parent of a child who was born addicted you probably know more about it so maybe you'd know) but I'm curious if there would be a case where if they baby had gone a certain amount of time without the drug they were born addicted to, would it be more harmful than good to give them the drug to just wean them again? Obviously medical shows get things wrong all the time and sometimes purposefully for shock or plot but I'm wondering if there are cases where if the babys gone too long without you'd just let them finish going through the withdrawal?
@@ameliarose47 Without treatment a baby that was born addicted would have a very rough start. Could even die. So yeah, they definitely take liberties with facts. That baby looked more than a week old and relatively healthy. My granddaughter was 2 weeks premature. Tiny. They did try to do as much skin to skin as possible, but coming off the drugs they had to keep her on the morphine so her system could gradually wean off. She's still in physical and occupational therapy, but doing well.
@@ameliarose47 Yep, opiate withdrawal is pure hell. The duration of the withdrawals depends on different factors. A week out with no more opiates for the baby and she has probably gone thru the worst of the acute withdrawals, but could still have some painful symptoms, which would need treatment. A knowledgeable doc would know the best way to proceed. Now, if the mother was on and off heroin and also receiving methadone doses in between binges, that is another story - methadone is worse to come off of than the original opiate and has a much longer withdrawal duration (weeks). Methadone or suboxone are still a much better choice than to keep using, just be aware of their long half-life. Many of these suboxone docs are in it for the cash flow. They don't take insurance, charge ridiculous prices and lie about the time and effort it takes to taper off the sub. I wouldn't advise sub for more than a couple of weeks to get the patient thru acute withdrawals - the same way benzos are used for alcohol withdrawal. Please excuse my extended comments. I am not a doctor - consult with a professional who is an addiction specialist. My message is to be careful about choosing a detox/treatment program. There are plenty of excellent facilities out there with doctors and staff who understand what you are going through with many being recovering addicts/alcoholics themselves.
She is not the parent. @@ameliarose47 Her son is and his wife she said.
@@annebodeeTbf What are they gonna do? Find a dying baby?
The part where Helen was feeding the baby was so heartwarming. She was falling in love with baby Zerah. When Helen volunteered to do the skin-on-skin contact, it was like Max didn't want her to do it. Not sure why he would be opposed to it, unless he feared she would contemplate adopting the baby once her heart was involved. Further, if the child's mother had the father's number, why didn't she call him in the first place? Why "safe haven surrender" the baby, and then call the father? It makes no sense. My goodness, poor Helen; she just pours out her heart in the most selfless ways, and endures the hurt silently. She so desperately wants to be a Mum. Her Sharpwin fans want her to be a Mum too...w/Max's baby of course. 🥰
Yess heavy on max baby
Never knew I could love babies so much. I can’t see them crying, I can’t explain the feeling but as soon as I see/hear babies crying I hold them close to my chest and it works by calming them.
I don’t care about the rest but I know I will be a good mother 💯
🥹🥹
Yes you will ❤
What broke me the baby was trying so hard to smile even after this 😭😭😭😭😭
I will say I like how they handle this in this show. If this were Chicago Med, the doctors would have been judging the whole family and causing every problem in the world for the parents.
So true
I can hear Natalie now
Or try to give the kid back to mom
the same thing happened in chicago med except the mother didnt leave
@@ChristineTheHippie I was just about to say the same thing lmao
She can't stay objective to save her life, it is her way or no way, and she gets super defensive when she gets called out on her bs
We adopted 2 little boys that were drug affected. They turn 9 tomorrow and are amazing and bright and loved. They made our family whole.
I try not to be angry with their birth parents. Some days are harder than others though.
I get it. But let me explain a small amount.
The anger is because the babies are my cousin's sons. His first daughter broke a Washington state record for having the most amount of drugs in her system for a newborn. She was in a specialized unit for almost a month, where she screamed non-stop because of the withdrawal from the opiates and meth and 7 other substances.
Then the twins came, drug affected and Hep C+. Shortly after, mom went to prison, and dad took off. I had the boys for 9 months before she was released early. I was simply their caregiver until she got back on her feet. We got her a job, a car, and an apartment trying to help in any way possible. She would come and get them and commit acts of prostitution and do drug deals while the boys were in the same room. Plus, they were letting the boys stay with a known sex offender who just so happened to like little boys.
We ended up paying $30,000 in court costs, fighting and begging my cousin and his girlfriend to just let them stay with us while they cleaned up. Instead, they told lies about us on the internet and in court and tried their very best to make sure we looked bad.
I love their parents, but some days, I simply can't wrap my head around it all. And others, it hurts my heart that my joy is wrapped up in another's brokenness.
I was not planning on having more. My husband and I have a 27 year old and twins who are 24. And we now have 2 grandbabies. Twin babies at 38 was not in my plan. 😊 I thought.
But, I took the boys out of love for my family. My cousin, my aunt and uncle. We adopted them because they needed us.
Any way you look at it, every emotion has been felt. Most of the time, I have peace. But occasionally, when my sweet little boys want to know why they can't meet their mama, my anger and hurt get the best of me.
you and your partner are absolute angels!!!
@@briggyb there is always good people and bad people. I know you think it is not allowed to hate your blood relative and I cant either. But sometimes, deep down we just realize how bad of a person they are, for their actions, for their choices.. Salute to your husband, not everyone will agree in that age...
The doctor was feeling the mother love of the child.
She fell in love with the baby. Bitter sweet.
So glad that the writers did some research about NAS. Skin-to-skin with mum and breastfeeding on demand is the best treatment. I’ve seen the difference, first hand, between babies in the NICU whose mums are in a really bad way and can’t/won’t spend enough time with their babies and mums who do. The babies who are close to mum at all times and allowed to breastfeed on demand often don’t need morphine. The babies that aren’t given that care and attention from their mum and are left in the noisy, brightly lit NICU usually need morphine and a long hospital stay, sometimes months.
I felt bad for Helen when she gave the baby up to her birth father. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm glad that the baby's father came and took her, but I think that Helen would have been an amazing mother to her
Too selfish to quit while pregnant? Yeah, mother of the fricken year
@@NYD666not helen
@@NYD666that’s Wendy the mother. Not Helen.
And even then opioids and addiction in general is hard to quit. Pregnancy doesn’t just give you superhuman strength to quit something.
She’s a woman who got injured and then got prescribed an addictive substance. She deserved sympathy.
@NYD666 obviously someone who never had or a love one with an opioid addiction. Did you listen? SHE HAD A BAD FALL and was prescribed it. That’s how MOST opioid addiction starts. Opioids and cigarettes are the hardest things to beat. Get educated and grow some compassion
It's nice to see Martha Jones doing well
I’m so glad someone noticed! Back to saving lives!
After being on UNIT and saving the world a bunch of times, she decided it was better to just return to being a doctor (in the US this time) to be as far away of 10 as possible 😅 Glad she found peace 😂
Me sitting here crying and my 10 month old looking at me and smiling..... I can't
This episode brought tears to my eyes. My late baby brother was an opioid addict so it really hit home...🥺💜
The dad is Alex Hernandez, He played Lincoln Clay in Mafia 3.
I love that they showed the dad melting as soon as he saw his little girl. Definitely gonna be a girl dad
Pls don’t say girl dad. Trust me it’s not what you think
@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012lmaooooooo 😂 what
Just say "daddy's girl", please.
@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012please stop policing people's speech I'll talk however I please. They can say girl dad if they want to get the hell over it.
What do you mean a "girl dad"? 😂 if a guy has a daughter, is that not being a father to a girl?
Oh wait, almost forgot that men are barely expected to parent at all, so when he actually steps up, does the basics of loving and raising a kid he's a magical, wonderful daddy 🥺 wow so special he's being a parent! Same thing as when ppl heap praise on the father for "babysitting" literally once -_-
I thought the actress looked familiar, I got so excited when I realised she was on doctor who!
This nurse or doc is so beautiful. ❤
Honestly one of the most addictive shows I've watched. Very interesting!
You can see that Dr. Sharpe wanted this lil girl 😢😢. What season is this? Does anyone know?
Season 1, ep 14
Baby is a really good actor 😍
“You’re going to be feeling it soon too”. Ummm y’all gave her narcan. She’s already feeling it lol
Helen has a beautiful
Accent.
I wanted the dr to adopt the baby so bad
The dad has every right to claim his daughter
I've had to take opiates for a few weeks after developing bilateral hairline fractures in my feet. When I went cold turkey off after finishing my prescription, I felt AWFUL. I had horrible mood swings, I was lethargic, I almost fainted twice ... I only lasted 36 hours before I went to outpatients and begged to either be weaned off of what I was taking or be given something to stop the symptoms. I feel so much for the mother and baby characters here: regarding the mom, it's so easy to get hooked on them even when you're careful and even when you're taking the lowest dose. For the baby, given what I went through those 36 hours, I know it was hell for her. Everything hurts you and makes you upset when you have withdrawals and its terrible.
I’m on long term fentanyl, morphine and oxynorm. And will be until I die. I ran out a day early as the pharmacy didn’t have the stock in and I felt horrendous. I get zero side effects off taking them now and they gave me a quality of life I could have only dreamed of, even if it won’t be for long. Thankfully iv got my son already, people need to try and stop judging what they don’t know, addiction is a disease still, however awful it may be. Im glad your okay now
@@lauracoates8026me too. I take oxycodone daily for chronic pain and the quality of life they give me is incredible compared to not having them. I’m not addicted, I’m dependent. I ran out this week and the same thing happened and I’m in bed feeling terrible. I’ve not increased my dose in 5 1/2 years. I’m proud of that, because the last thing I want is to be escalating the dose until it becomes unmanageable.
A good doctor would have given you a prescription to decrease the amount gradually over at least 3 weeks. It would have been way easier. It's a shame you have to go through that. Congrats for not becoming addicted. Opioids are not bad. They are great to handle pain, but unfortunately, patients are not given enough explanations...
Your story shines a light on how little training doctors get on pain management and how opoids actually work. You should have been given a taper schedule to reduce or eliminate the withdrawal. Also the doctor could have reduced the dose for you as you may be very reactive to opoiods. Unlike myself where I've always been under medicated because I metabolize quickly and and partly resistant to opoids (I have DNA testing for medications to prove it.)
@@m_d1905
What specific testing did you have done to discover your resistance?
It is suspected that I could have permanent issues because I was removed from my mother immediately after birth for weeks (not her fault, I came out basically dead).
My mental health is permanently at risk because of something I can't even remember.
I'm lucky I did get the attention I needed after the first month or so, because much longer and I'd definitely have an attachment disorder.
My cousin is not so lucky - he didn't have proper parental care for several months. (complex story)
Good for you?
Same, separated for 3 weeks with multiple surgeries. My mental health isn't great.
I have a family member that does opioids. Almost constantly. We aren't close by any means. My grandmother worries about her, she's in and out of the house leaving her baby with her most times so she can get high. She keeps saying that she will change for the better and go to rehab but she never does. She has but worn out her support system and the only left believing in her right now is only a few people. I hope she gets better but I also hope that baby can have a proper mother.
My daugher's mother checked into rehab and has been sober and in recovery for 10 years, and has been a positive influence. It is good that my daughter has a mother. Your grandmother and other family members should make the time to visit some al anon meetings where family members of addicts can talk and learn. The entire family is being afflicted by the disease of addiction--and treating every family member can help--not just the addict. I hope you don't mind me offering unsolicited advice.
@6dmiller not at all thank you...
Is the grandmother able to suit for custody? It sounds like the baby would be much safer with her... I know it's a tough situation for a family but sometimes cutting off access to the child is the best thing that can happen for it, it may even shake the mother into actually following through with rehab to regain access to visitations... no judgement if it's not something your family won't consider, btw, each family has its own dynamics to navigate.
So, my dad’s cousin is an alcoholic. We knew she drank during her first few weeks of pregnancy and when the baby came out, she passed on the physical characteristics of FADS to the baby. Small face, flat midline of face, wide forehead, and etc. Luckily, she has normal mental functions and very smart. But if my dad’s uncle and Aunt didn’t stop their daughter from drinking, I shudder to think of the intentional harm that she could’ve passed to the bay.
FUN FACT: When you get your food and drink license when you work in the US as a waiter or cashier, even if the woman you’re serving looks pregnant, you’re not allowed to refuse her service? Because for all you know, she’s just big. She can sue you for discrimination, so it’s kinda an iffy situation for both parties.
That's not so fun a fact... if it is super clear baby bump on a tiny frame you should be able to refuse. It's basically forcing the waiter to enable damage to a baby.
@Mary-sh2bp The burden is not on the establishment to refuse you, it’s on the mother to stop drinking. If she can’t do that, she better get an abortion. You can’t coddle people and expect them to act like adults.
Just noticed that the writing in this episode was out of order. Helen looked surprised when Max said that the baby's father was there. Then in the next scene, Max asked the baby daddy "why did Wendy change her mind and want Dr. Sharpe to call you?"
Maybe she didn’t actually think he’d come.
This is a great show and non-,judgemental.
How do they know the baby is suffering from NAS? Do they take blood samples or is it an outward evaluation? What is the treatment and how long does it take for the baby to get "clean"?
They use the Finnegan Score, plus blood samples. Depending on the type of drug the baby is addicted to, controlled doses of medication are used. E.g. in opiod addiction, morphine or methadone to try to stabilise they baby. The doses are slowly reduced after 7 - 10 days.
The baby in the clip is a healthy baby, so you don't get a real sense of what an actual NAS baby looks like or sounds like. The reality is heartbreaking
@@Ater_Draco I can imagine. Thanks for explaining.
My cousin was born drug addicted at 5 months gestation. She was a living miracle and fought hard to survive. She grew up having 4 kids of her own 2 drug addicted themselves. She was found dead a week ago from heroin/fentanyl overdose.
So sorry
I'm so sorry! My friend's friend lost her two adult kids to opioids several years apart. ((HUGS))
For those curious like me: Opioid use during pregnancy can lead to neonatal abstinence syndrome (NAS) in some newborns.
Also- NAS (neonatal abstinence disorder) can happen in some anti depressants and anti anxiety meds as well. A lady in my ward had to have her baby do the scoring every few hours because of the medication she had to take.
its like reese in chicago med when she cared for a baby and i rlly hoped sharpe could adpot that child bc being a mum is important
She abandons the baby at the hospital and the father shows up. Mean while she could have just given the baby to him to take care of, if he could provide safe housing and care for the child. She was living on the street using with a new born baby in a duffel bag. This is just sad and probably common in real life
In the video the father explained that they broke up and he moved away, so the woman probably didn't even know where he was or was even interested in raising the baby
Why assume the father is competent to care for the baby? A healthy white baby -- especially a girl -- is worth a LOT of $ on the black market! Father may be a good guy or he may be a monster; no way to know without investigating the guy AND his family.
@@krisaaron5771eww
@@theloganator5738he said he didn’t know about the baby. 😑
@@krisaaron5771 You sound like a modern day Georgia Tann! Trust me, that's NOTa compliment!
The odds of dad doing that after mom abandons are pretty low; but if it does happen, best to let him have the baby.
That happened to someone I know personally. He went to see the mother & child in the hospital. He was informed the mother left, but the baby was still in the hospital. He had to go through a LOT of things to get his child, but thankfully, he got her and has remained a single parent to his daughter for the past 7 years.
@@mushiralightfoot924Which is kind of stupid. Fathers shouldn't have to do anything to claim their own child. A simple DNA test (to confirm paternity) and a background check (safety reasons) should be enough to let a man claim his children.
Anyone else miss this show
Makes me wonder if two people could fall in love over their dual love for a baby theyve never met before that day.
Again a good vid GO FOR IT
I have cried this whole clip
I was so upset when they canceled this show. It was one of my favorites
I miss this show
That babys mum needs help
I hope the father knows that he can never let the mother around that child again not until she gets fully clean otherwise the child will be taken away from him as well
The mother already surrendered her rights to the child. When mothers decide not to keep their child, if they surrender at a hospital. They have to sign a form saying she is giving up her parental rights to the child. No questions will be asked but once that paper is put into records, she can never claim that child again. By law, that dad will now have full custody of her. He can allow the mom to visit if she wants but he's the one who gets to raise the baby now.
What was the babies name?
Omg I hope she is ok
Yes blaspheming was necessary 🙄
Well the baby actor is too calm and healthy to be with NAS😂 I saw actual cases in various docus and they are just ..... miserable. It's the worst legacy a parent can pass down to their child.
Well they aren’t going to use an actually sick baby…
fab show nice
“Anyone we should call for you and the baby?” Ummmm, yes. Please call CPS. it’s your legal obligation as a mandated reporter tf
Not CPS; they are useless for situations like this. The first person you contact is the father of the child to see if he wants the baby. Which obviously he wanted the baby based on his reaction but CPS would of stolen that baby from him.
That should have been actual skin to skin contact, just resting baby on her upper chest with a blanket over them both. Skin to skin means so much, that doesn't work as well through clothes.
legally they’d have to contact cps or police would they not? a drug addict can’t be fit to be a “parent” they do what’s safest and best for the childs sake and safety ❤
If the mother had stayed or left without warning. I do believe CPS would/could have been involved. But sense she left and willingly gave her up there's no need, specially sense the dad showed up.
A relação entre eles cativantes...envolventes 👏👏💗
Helen is so beautiful ❤
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Not me wanting the doctor to adopt the baby
Hi Martha from Doctor Who
I don’t believe the mom intended to hurt the baby. It’s cold and she put the baby in the bag with blankets to keep it warm. It’s sad. She needs help.
Dr. Sharpe needs to keep that baby seriously
Legally she couldn’t. If the biographical father wants the baby then legally it goes to him. I think they have to see if the baby has relatives that are willing to take the baby in.
@@WhitneypyantBut the baby needs a mother figure. Boys do better in life when they have their father or an older male role model to look up to. Same applies to girls; they need their mother or older female role model. Sharpe could be that mother figure for the baby. Or if nothing else, if the dad gets a new GF then I hope she will be a good stepmom for her.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlas long as the baby is loved and cared for she will be fine
That poor baby.
poor baby
Zerah doesn't mean brightness it actually means seed but it has many meanings depending on how it is used. Biblically speaking.
Aww...
Tiny human.
What did she name the baby?
Its always sad when babies pay for the mistakes of adults
What was the baby's name?
MARTHA JONES SAVING LIVES AGAIN
Helen Sharpe 🤍
3:56 this is dangerous writing….😒 Irresponsible to say the least….Safe Haven was the good choice.
That title is bizarrely funny. What the hell.
How was she able to keep him that clean though as for clothes?
Poor babies it breaks the heart..the decision is already made for him 😢 I've seen an episode on SBSK about it.. what a tragedy 😢
Name of the movie pls
Series, New Amsterdam
Helen so wanted to adopt that baby and one day that kid fictionally speaking would probably ask it's Daddy how it got its name and its daddy would tell how it got its name and who gave it to them.
narcan dont work that fast lmao
It works fast but yeah not milliseconds fast haha and even more ridculous was how coherent she was so quick haha
W the fact she left the bag and likely hood in real life of it being there when a dr comes back for it is pretty dam slim.
Martha Jones came to America!! She’s still a doctor!! Also that baby is a terrible actor, I didn’t believe it was addicted to opioids AT ALL!!!
It a baby, of course it doesn’t know how to act.
@@Aaron-MackHartford lol, ok 🤣
Muitas cenas especiais ...❤
Narcan doesn't work that quickly
Really shouldn't spoil another human's life. So sick, mindless, and irresponsible
Is it just a coincidence that their was a doctor or nurse walking by her
I can't, nor will I ever understand how a mother can knowingly do that to their child. She said that she tried, but she didn't try hard enough to quit. She didn't even give that precious little girl a name, even if she planned to surrender her, she deserved a name. I don't understand how she could walk away from her child either. I tried to walk away from my daughter, and her cries got my heart, and I was already crying, and wanting to turn around, and I heard her crying, and I turned around, and I ran to her. If I was doing hard core drugs, and I got pregnant, I'd have myself in rehab so fast it'd make people's heads spin. I'd also have myself with a social worker who would help me to stay clean, and be a good Momma, and help me to provide for my daughter, and I'd even take parenting classes. At least that precious little angel had the doctor and her Daddy to take care of her.
“didn’t try hard enough to quit”
have you, in a day of your life, been addicted to opioids? would you ever say this to a non-tv actress addict? how disgusting of you to speak like that even if it’s a show, seriously. you’re a good mother, i get that, and what you said is something that is SO good, SO lovely, but don’t you ever say it like you know EXACTLY how you would go when struggling with addiction.
Tell me you’re lucky enough to have avoided addiction without telling me, puddin pop
@@emmawieson2121 I've been lucky enough to have never been addicted Sweetheart.
I worked with unhoused people including many mothers who lost their babies/kids. Addiction is highly correlated to trauma. You are yelling at deeply traumatized people without support systems or life skills that are in more pain than they can process 😢 but that’s the point, they aren’t you. Or they would have made better choices too.
That’s the fun of getting to know people in these situations 😔 you find out that the people abusing their babies or their partners were themselves abused by their parents; they never had a chance. And their parents were probably abused by their own parents and there are so many uncountable layers of intergenerational trauma that it’s hard for medical professionals to even treat effectively if they had all the resources in the world (which they never do).
These people are human too, humans who need your help 😢 you will be more effective at helping babies and children if you give their parents the care they so desperately need. Remember that they themselves were children once 😭
@@mistressofthedark1476 You really are lucky you've never suffered with addiction. I'm happy for anyone who's never been through it. It's easy to say, "Well, if it were me, I'd be do this, not do that". Addiction, especially opioid addiction is pure hell. No one takes a drug in hopes of becoming addicted. Sometimes they're prescribed a highly addictive med for an injury/surgery/chronic pain, sometimes they just try something & they're hooked. The majority of addicts become addicted bc of undiagnosed/diagnosed mental illness, trauma, a***e. They try a substance, it numbs the pain mentally, physically, emotionally & they continue to use which leads to full blown dependency. It's not just physical dependency, it's mental as well. I worked at a care facility that homed newborns to 60yr olds who'd been dumped on the doorstep the day they opened. I've worked in several care facilities & I can't even tell you how many mother's I've seen who were prescribed a medication, had been on a medication for years, got pregnant, had to continue the meds they needed, but their doctors just told them it would be ok, the baby would probably only have to be observed for a couple days & them be born fully addicted, needing serious intervention. We had mentally/physically disabled patients where the family tried to take care of them at home but it was too much & they got caretaker exhaustion & resentment which led to a***e. We had NAS babies who were surrendered. You name it, we took care of them. I bonded with an 8mth old baby who was hiv+, mother died during labor, dad was in a halfway house. You had to suit up when caring for the baby & had to be very careful. Ppl were scared to even be in his room. He needed physical touch & care to thrive. I'd put my cover on, hold & rock him every break or lunch I got. It's heartbreaking seeing innocent babies suffering bc of their circumstance. But, I just can't judge an addict for their addiction bc I have no idea what led them down that path. Not saying you wouldn't do what you say you'd do, but it's easy to think or say you could never or you'd do this or that. But, until you've been there, you have no idea what you would/wouldn't actually do. It's all situational, circumstantial. Not black & white.
Yeah, Narcan does not respond that fast so unrealistic
I like how they take care of people like her and thw baby. But in reality these people would not receive help because of insurance.... it's really sad
Poughkeepsie is beyond a bad place and newbufor drugs and violence and alcohol
Omg Martha
The baby is going to start itching
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Stop giving oxzy to people! Use a different pain killer that won’t make people addictive
Parents with a one week old baby shouldn’t be getting high and breast feeding the babies under the influence of drugs
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why did they start asking the father about the opioid? Her body, her choice.
Well first off opioid addiction is treated like drug addiction; bad thing to happen regardless of gender. Second off it is in fact not just her body while she's pregnant. If a woman decides to keep it, or doesn't have the means to abort, then she is responsible for not injesting anything that could affect the baby. It's extremely illegal to drink while pregnant. Pregnant women are discouraged from eating fish or drinking caffeine as those chemicals can affect the baby. And above all else: NO DRUGS!!!
That woman should of been arrested at the hospital for both illegal drug use and child endangerment which does apply to unborn children even in pro abortion states.
That infant would have been in worse shape than the show portrays and so would mom. After working with addicts that were pregnant and parenting I have seen this firsthand.
A baby can not be “addicted” because they are not capable of compulsive drug use despite negative consequences. Babies can be born physically dependent on drugs due to their mother’s substance use disorder.
they literally are given everything the mother is so if the mother is taking opioids they will be dependent on opioids and need to be weened and helped w withdrawal. babies are born addicted everyday. it's not about what they themselves did it's about their bodies physical and chemical response bc of those drugs. they don't have a conscious to know what's going on but their brain and body already does.
@@leabee8101 reread my comment. Dependence is not the same as addiction. The literal medical definition of addiction is “a chronic, relapsing disorder characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use despite adverse consequences. Addiction includes craving, loss of control in using the substance, compulsion to use, and continued use despite harm. A baby is not capable of seeking drugs. Babies born to mothers who take drugs are born with Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome because they are simply born with symptoms of withdrawal. Withdrawal is from being physically dependent. Everyone needs to stop saying that “babies are born addicted to drugs” because it’s stigmatizing and inaccurate.
@@kari1032 The "compulsive drug seeking" is because of dependence hello?? the body is dependent on it so it HAS to have it. if the body doesn't have it then it might die or it thinks it will. that's the definition of dependence lol. the brain is a lot more advanced at birth than people think the baby just doesn't have complete consciousness yet. they can tell you when they're hungry, thirsty, tired, full diaper, etc. and a lot of babies will cry for drugs despite not knowing what they are or ever having seen them because they can FEEL and experience the effects through the mother because they are deadass connected. babies going through withdrawal and dying from withdrawal symptoms wouldnt be a thing if it wasnt true. your body is you and your mind is you whether youre conscious of it or not. stigmatizing against who exactly? no one is ever upset at a baby being born addicted to drugs. its a sad reality that no one wants to see or hear about but it happens. it SHOULD be stigmatized wtf??
@@kari1032not sure why the distinction is so important. There is technical definitions and social use of a word.
Also, you cannot even be addicted without physical dependency. There is they psychological aspect of addiction and the physical aspect and the emotional aspect. Maybe it is YOUR definition that is...a little... short sighted.
@@alyssaheller7860 yes you can have addiction without dependency. Ever heard of gambling, shopping, p0rn, or sex addiction. It’s an important distinction because addiction is a diagnostic disease that requires different treatments and resources than physical dependency.
ooh i’m earlyyyy
I feel like the scene with her feeding the baby would have made more sense if she was wearing a tanktop for the skin-to-skin. Maybe not fully nude for TV but there was literally no skin-to skin. 🤷🏽
And doctors wonder why I get upset when im overprescribed opioids.
No offense but just because he walked into the hospital and says it’s his baby, that makes it his baby???? DNA me please
Why aren’t mothers charged criminally when their children are born addicted to anything?
because putting the mom in jail helps even less?
Sure, women should not do drugs while pregnant and it is terrible for that baby but problems with addiction are rarely black and white. Addiction is a disease. You can’t control it. Once you are already addicted quitting is incredibly hard. Your brain is rewired to want the drug all the time and you can’t help it. If you try, you feel terrible and sick unless you get more. This woman admitted to trying to become clean and that is often the case. Addiction is treated with much care and there is a lot of stigma so getting help is hard and people don’t always know how. Willpower doesn’t stop addiction. Wanting to be clean is very rarely enough. Also, Medical care in general, in the US at least, is not great for pregnant women and is expensive. Making getting care for addiction easier and getting these women in rehab should be the goal, not putting them in jail. Jail does not help and often makes these problems worse. After release, 68% of drug offenders are rearrested within 3 years.
They are
😂😂😂 this response is actually kind of dumb. They do charge and on top of that cps is called.
Addiction is a disease
I hope all the Libertarians are watching this.
During beginning of COVID, my SIL and I got stuck in another country and a few months later, she gave birth, borders were closed and couldn't get home, baby was born addicted to narcotics and he would scream non stop. One day she left the hospital and said she doesn't want to see her baby anymore, so nurses and doctors asked me if I could hold him as much as possible to soothe him, but I don't like holding babies, even if they are quiet, I don't like physical contact (hence why I cannot have a partner, I dont even like being hugged), when he isn't quiet, he is screaming and screeching so much it triggers my migraines and tinnitus. He would scream so bad he would turn bright red, gasp for air, shake and when he would actually have physical contact, he would settle down immediately, calm down and even smile a few times, but I couldn't stand it, so I put him down and he spent next 4 weeks screaming in his crib, rooting and reaching out to hold onto someone. The hospital was also understaffed so he was never held, only contact he had was diaper changes, baths and he was fed from this hands free bottle holder. I don't care if I am a horrible person, but if I cannot even have a partner due to hate being touched, even by family, I won't make an exception for a clingy, screechy baby. I cannot just 'turn off' my brain to be comfortable being touched by someone else.