After playing a WB draft against some friends online using draftsim and drafting the Possessed Goat AND Valgavoth, and doing exactly this, you are correct. It's a great discard outlet.
@@svankensen you're thinking of unidentified hovership, fear of abduction is a creature. You are right about vehicles not being creatures until crewed though
I don't really like the heavy use of modern-day tropes in Duskmourn, but as a standalone illustration, Fear of Abduction is one of my favourites from the set. Grey aliens have become such a meme that they just look goofy nowadays, but this one is legitimately creepy!
It should be noted that Ethereal Armor does not have as much 'blowout insurance' as one might think, as Eerie only triggers when an enchantment enters, and if an opponent removes your creature before Ethereal Armor resolves, Ethereal Armor is countered and never enters.
Fear of Immobility strikes me as a card designed for Pauper, because all the common White cards with that much power have same or even worse rates. Edit: The alternatives of 5 CMC for 4/4 (or higher) are only Captivating Unicorn, Mankindi Ox, Devoted Paladin, Haazda Vigilante, Master Skald, Oltec Archaeologists, Stagecoach Security, and Sunblade Samurai and none really disable an opponent's creature (first two tap, but only upon something else ETB and don't stun so your opponent untaps it right after your turn ends).
I haven't drafted magic in ages, but this set feels like it's something special. And I only trust Nizzahons review guides... even though when I play I manage to disregard his rankings and play all of his F and D ranked cards lmao 🤣
Prop Room won me some games. Getting to untap all creatures and convoke flash creatures with them on opponent's turn is brokenly good. Getting to untap ye olde Balloon Man and make yet a flying blocker that copies an ETB from whatever you copied with it on opponent's turn is amazing too. Copying the Overlord cards does amazingly terrifying things!
So I have an interesting rules question for you. Let's say I have two creatures on board: Ivy, Gleeful Spellthief and one other I cast Sheltered by Ghosts on the other creature and exile an opponents card. Will ivy's ability trigger?
It's weird seeing Get Lost show up in Timeless after how bad it was in ixalan limited. 2 map tokens are a whole lot harder to use in a format where that one mana can also pay for ragavan or thoughtseize
path-to-exile style effects are better in constructed because the average power level of every card is so much higher. 2 map tokens to kill a 3 mana 4/2 is a terrible deal, but when you’re killing an Innkeeper’s Talent, of course it’s worth it
Trapped in the Screen saved my butt against the black rooms that crank out 2/2 tokens. Hovership is overrated since attacking with it usually kills it and late game giving opponent card draw is just suicidal.
Trapped in the screen will be much stronger than banishing in the last set. Bloomburrow had just too value on too many cards that 3 mana for 1 creature being removed was bad. This set as very much a lot of 1 of permanent bombs that are must kill (or exile). I will prioritise this removal much more here.
it's just a nightmare created by someone's idea of what aliens look like, but it does mean some plane out there in the multiverse has a cultural idea of grey aliens like we do
@@ab-mc2nq Which makes sense, since it is pretty clear that the greys are based on humanoid features slightly distorted to look more fetus like (large eyes, huge heads etc). Since humans are so commonplace in the multiverse (and their young look like ours too) it would be almost strange if they didn't come up with a similar picture of "aliens".
Possessed goat LOL!!!! AND IT'S A GOOD 1 DROP! YEA! i love the trend of giving terrible named cards good stats to make them meta and relevant, so now everyone has to say the horrible card name. He just dropped a HOLY COW! AHHHHH OH NO, HE JUST BUFFED HIS POSSESSED GOAT?! NOOOO lol....love it. Edit: 8 wish sheltered by ghosts had a worse name.....it's one of the most unique and interesting enchant creatures ive seen.....they found a way to justify a 2 drop enchant creature card for competitive play, and the ward 2 helps lock out quick removals in the early game if used properly
Prop Room won me some games. Getting to untap all creatures and convoke flash creatures with them on opponent's turn is brokenly good. Getting to untap ye olde Balloon Man and make yet another token on opponent's turn ain't cool.
@@andyspendlove1019 That's the thing though. They moved away from that extremely fast, so it's not really relevant. Or not in the way you seem to think.
This theme and its card effects are so disappointing coming after bloomburrow. Kinda not interested in tvs or ufos or ghostbusters or other modern ideas in magic
And I wasn't interested in talking animal world. Why is everyone whining so much about Magic not entirely tailoring only to their own likes? Modern ideas were also always present in MtG, and lorewise it makes no sense for them not to be real somewhere in a near endless multiverse.
It also seems very mediocre and generic. I remember looking at cards like original Thalia and being like "wow, this looks amazing!" There used to be themed art for a set that was like glue for what the set was and there used to be stand out art in almost every color in a set but this just feels like a mess of ideas and references with no real direction or soul. I dont want to blame the artists, I think they suffer under the limited time Wotc has to put out these sets just the same as everyone else. But it definitely takes away from my excitment for Magic when not only sets are being spewed out one after another but they also become less and less coherent and memorable art & story wise...
I don't concur, I love MtG not always treading old grounds and doing something unique. Also, I find a ton of the art in this set extremely memorable, while I can't say the same for the allegedly more "special" Bloomburrow. People like you just accentuate the negative becauseyou dislike modern tech or clothes being in fantasy (urban fantasy probably feels like a nightmare to you as a genre). That's a personal, not a general problem.
@@RowanHG it doesn't fit into the lore. If they had made it a special set like Fallout, then fine, but it's not. Most of the art is quite forgettable. I don't really like bloomburrows either, as far as theme and design( not to mention it's the worst draft format since coldsnap). Mtg is peak during good ravnica sets, innistrad, theros/ amonket, mirrodin, and old school stuff. The phyrexian/ mirrodin stuff especially did horror themes in a cool unique way. This new set just feels like somebody just watched a ton of horror movies one weekend and copied and pasted. Most of the moves mtg has been making in recent years have been negative. The golden age is behind us and with their obsession on diversity, equity, and inclusion and lack of good creativity it will take a major shift to get us back to when it was great. When was the last truly great set? When they go back to previous planes have the sets ever been better then the originals in recent years.
@@aslanlovett4059 This is all certainly your opinion, but the overwhelming majority of players seems to think (according to multiple sources) that Neon Dynasty, a set with DEI in spades (I won't get into detail on why this is NOT something that has had any influence on the quality of sets in general, you bringing it up tells me that you will simply disregard my points since you WANT that to not be true), futuristic technology, great art and great cards, as well as awesome limited environment was the last set that was absolutely universally beloved and had only very few weaknesses if at all. And while it was a return to Kamigawa, the drastic changes to the plane make it pretty much a new one. It sold well, and was critically very acclaimed. And it is absolutely not "old school stuff". Is every original set Wizard does great? No of course not. I am not even saying Duskmourn is necessarily. (I like it and it does fit the lore though, no matter how much you deny it.) Conservative nostalgia that only wants to "get back to the old hits" like this will ultimately always lead to stagnation and boredom in the long run. I prefer progression, even if it includes some misssteps along the way (and from time to time old school stuff is fine as well of course).
@@RowanHG neon dynasty does not fit the definition of DEI. The plain is Asian themed so it makes sense. DEI is making Aragon black . And neon dynasty, even being a good draft environment, is surrounded by bad sets. In the past we had sets better or equal to neon dynasty as far as playability back to back to back . As far as art and themes it does not stand up to the level of quality we had in the past. Also DEI is the systemic reason why we are having bad sets. WoC is more interested in hiring diverse employees than hiring the best people for the jobs. hence the decrease in quality of art and sets as a whole. You mix that with overall greed( releasing far to many sets a year) and you get what we have today. Cope all you want, or maybe you just didn't play mtg in the glory days of old so you don't know, but the new stuff is nothing compared to what we had in the past .
I feel that Possessed Goat is there specifically to allow a reanimator deck to discard an expensive creature to the graveyard to set up a reanimation.
After playing a WB draft against some friends online using draftsim and drafting the Possessed Goat AND Valgavoth, and doing exactly this, you are correct. It's a great discard outlet.
worth noting with fear of abduction the downside is a cast trigger but the upside is an etb so works really well in bw reanimator
Can you reanimate vehicles? They aren't creatures until they are crewed right?
@@svankensen you're thinking of unidentified hovership, fear of abduction is a creature. You are right about vehicles not being creatures until crewed though
Or with Balloon Man
It’s maybe just me having been too into UFOs and Cryptids as a kid, but Fear of Abduction has some of the most unsettling art I think I’ve ever seen.
I don't really like the heavy use of modern-day tropes in Duskmourn, but as a standalone illustration, Fear of Abduction is one of my favourites from the set. Grey aliens have become such a meme that they just look goofy nowadays, but this one is legitimately creepy!
Unsetttling art and one of the worst uncommons from moder Magic IMO
+1
It should be noted that Ethereal Armor does not have as much 'blowout insurance' as one might think, as Eerie only triggers when an enchantment enters, and if an opponent removes your creature before Ethereal Armor resolves, Ethereal Armor is countered and never enters.
The white Gift card from Bloomburrow is the closest to playable a card like Unwanted Remake gets in limited
Fear of Immobility strikes me as a card designed for Pauper, because all the common White cards with that much power have same or even worse rates.
Edit: The alternatives of 5 CMC for 4/4 (or higher) are only Captivating Unicorn, Mankindi Ox, Devoted Paladin, Haazda Vigilante, Master Skald, Oltec Archaeologists, Stagecoach Security, and Sunblade Samurai and none really disable an opponent's creature (first two tap, but only upon something else ETB and don't stun so your opponent untaps it right after your turn ends).
I haven't drafted magic in ages, but this set feels like it's something special. And I only trust Nizzahons review guides... even though when I play I manage to disregard his rankings and play all of his F and D ranked cards lmao 🤣
The UFO is giving interplanar chase vibe. More creatures with effects similar to survivor keyword would be available after the foundation set.
Survival is excellent with saddle.
The double meaning of Unwanted Remake is hilarious.
12:01 est. When Nizzahon says a video is coming out tomorrow, he really means it’s coming out tomorrow!
Why the fuck is it a time stamp
Because 12:01 is a time :)@@noahcheng2401
Dazzling theatre/Drop Room is so good in tokens EDH!
Yeah with Insidious Roots imagine getting to free up all your mana on opponent's turn.
Prop Room won me some games. Getting to untap all creatures and convoke flash creatures with them on opponent's turn is brokenly good. Getting to untap ye olde Balloon Man and make yet a flying blocker that copies an ETB from whatever you copied with it on opponent's turn is amazing too. Copying the Overlord cards does amazingly terrifying things!
WAIT, isn't "Fear of Immobility" a color-pie break? That sounds so "blue" !
Also, I like the call of Commander in 14:18
White has gotten tap down for awhile. Kor Hookmaster, for example
So I have an interesting rules question for you.
Let's say I have two creatures on board: Ivy, Gleeful Spellthief and one other
I cast Sheltered by Ghosts on the other creature and exile an opponents card. Will ivy's ability trigger?
wanderer rescuer looks good
It's weird seeing Get Lost show up in Timeless after how bad it was in ixalan limited. 2 map tokens are a whole lot harder to use in a format where that one mana can also pay for ragavan or thoughtseize
path-to-exile style effects are better in constructed because the average power level of every card is so much higher. 2 map tokens to kill a 3 mana 4/2 is a terrible deal, but when you’re killing an Innkeeper’s Talent, of course it’s worth it
Gah the art on Fear of Abduction reminds me of "Fire in the Sky"
Trapped in the Screen saved my butt against the black rooms that crank out 2/2 tokens. Hovership is overrated since attacking with it usually kills it and late game giving opponent card draw is just suicidal.
Trapped in the screen will be much stronger than banishing in the last set. Bloomburrow had just too value on too many cards that 3 mana for 1 creature being removed was bad.
This set as very much a lot of 1 of permanent bombs that are must kill (or exile). I will prioritise this removal much more here.
Do creatures coming out of suspend from Impending have haste, like the creatures suspended from Time Spiral?
No. They are already on the board, though. Although they lose counters at end step, so it doesn't matter
@@NizzahonMagic Ah, keep overlooking that end step part of Impending, thanks.
So, now we have legit "aliens" in Magic now? (Fear of Abduction) Cool.
it's just a nightmare created by someone's idea of what aliens look like, but it does mean some plane out there in the multiverse has a cultural idea of grey aliens like we do
@@ab-mc2nq Which makes sense, since it is pretty clear that the greys are based on humanoid features slightly distorted to look more fetus like (large eyes, huge heads etc). Since humans are so commonplace in the multiverse (and their young look like ours too) it would be almost strange if they didn't come up with a similar picture of "aliens".
How many cards do we have for this set?
Looking at Scryfall, there are 286 Draft cards and 131 alternate arts
Possessed goat LOL!!!!
AND IT'S A GOOD 1 DROP! YEA!
i love the trend of giving terrible named cards good stats to make them meta and relevant, so now everyone has to say the horrible card name.
He just dropped a HOLY COW! AHHHHH
OH NO, HE JUST BUFFED HIS POSSESSED GOAT?! NOOOO
lol....love it.
Edit: 8 wish sheltered by ghosts had a worse name.....it's one of the most unique and interesting enchant creatures ive seen.....they found a way to justify a 2 drop enchant creature card for competitive play, and the ward 2 helps lock out quick removals in the early game if used properly
Prop Room won me some games. Getting to untap all creatures and convoke flash creatures with them on opponent's turn is brokenly good. Getting to untap ye olde Balloon Man and make yet another token on opponent's turn ain't cool.
6:40 ethereal armor doesn't care about artifacts
you're probably thinking of All that Glitters
MTG has extraterrestrial aliens in it now. And Disney ripoffs. And Ghostbuster ripoffs. And horror movie ripoffs. Just... wow.
Wait til you find out about the references to Aladdin, the Bible, and Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein in the early 90s
@@andyspendlove1019 That's the thing though. They moved away from that extremely fast, so it's not really relevant.
Or not in the way you seem to think.
Cry more.
@@DanoLefourbe plus it was only in flavour text, not on the art like in this set
Eldrazi are already basically aliens bro.
This theme and its card effects are so disappointing coming after bloomburrow.
Kinda not interested in tvs or ufos or ghostbusters or other modern ideas in magic
And I wasn't interested in talking animal world. Why is everyone whining so much about Magic not entirely tailoring only to their own likes? Modern ideas were also always present in MtG, and lorewise it makes no sense for them not to be real somewhere in a near endless multiverse.
I just hate the art in this set. It doesn't really feel like mtg art, all the modern clothes modern technology just feels wrong.
It also seems very mediocre and generic. I remember looking at cards like original Thalia and being like "wow, this looks amazing!"
There used to be themed art for a set that was like glue for what the set was and there used to be stand out art in almost every color in a set but this just feels like a mess of ideas and references with no real direction or soul.
I dont want to blame the artists, I think they suffer under the limited time Wotc has to put out these sets just the same as everyone else. But it definitely takes away from my excitment for Magic when not only sets are being spewed out one after another but they also become less and less coherent and memorable art & story wise...
I don't concur, I love MtG not always treading old grounds and doing something unique. Also, I find a ton of the art in this set extremely memorable, while I can't say the same for the allegedly more "special" Bloomburrow. People like you just accentuate the negative becauseyou dislike modern tech or clothes being in fantasy (urban fantasy probably feels like a nightmare to you as a genre). That's a personal, not a general problem.
@@RowanHG it doesn't fit into the lore. If they had made it a special set like Fallout, then fine, but it's not.
Most of the art is quite forgettable.
I don't really like bloomburrows either, as far as theme and design( not to mention it's the worst draft format since coldsnap). Mtg is peak during good ravnica sets, innistrad, theros/ amonket, mirrodin, and old school stuff.
The phyrexian/ mirrodin stuff especially did horror themes in a cool unique way. This new set just feels like somebody just watched a ton of horror movies one weekend and copied and pasted.
Most of the moves mtg has been making in recent years have been negative. The golden age is behind us and with their obsession on diversity, equity, and inclusion and lack of good creativity it will take a major shift to get us back to when it was great.
When was the last truly great set?
When they go back to previous planes have the sets ever been better then the originals in recent years.
@@aslanlovett4059 This is all certainly your opinion, but the overwhelming majority of players seems to think (according to multiple sources) that Neon Dynasty, a set with DEI in spades (I won't get into detail on why this is NOT something that has had any influence on the quality of sets in general, you bringing it up tells me that you will simply disregard my points since you WANT that to not be true), futuristic technology, great art and great cards, as well as awesome limited environment was the last set that was absolutely universally beloved and had only very few weaknesses if at all. And while it was a return to Kamigawa, the drastic changes to the plane make it pretty much a new one. It sold well, and was critically very acclaimed. And it is absolutely not "old school stuff".
Is every original set Wizard does great? No of course not. I am not even saying Duskmourn is necessarily. (I like it and it does fit the lore though, no matter how much you deny it.) Conservative nostalgia that only wants to "get back to the old hits" like this will ultimately always lead to stagnation and boredom in the long run. I prefer progression, even if it includes some misssteps along the way (and from time to time old school stuff is fine as well of course).
@@RowanHG neon dynasty does not fit the definition of DEI. The plain is Asian themed so it makes sense.
DEI is making Aragon black .
And neon dynasty, even being a good draft environment, is surrounded by bad sets.
In the past we had sets better or equal to neon dynasty as far as playability back to back to back .
As far as art and themes it does not stand up to the level of quality we had in the past.
Also DEI is the systemic reason why we are having bad sets. WoC is more interested in hiring diverse employees than hiring the best people for the jobs.
hence the decrease in quality of art and sets as a whole. You mix that with overall greed( releasing far to many sets a year) and you get what we have today.
Cope all you want, or maybe you just didn't play mtg in the glory days of old so you don't know, but the new stuff is nothing compared to what we had in the past .