The Smarter Neuro Gets, The More She Questions Vedal's Authority

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  • @bblvrable
    @bblvrable 11 месяцев назад +3128

    It took me a while to realize that "Captain Bloodsucker" was a mosquito joke. It's weird how she slips it in subtly like that.

    • @wisefelipe
      @wisefelipe 11 месяцев назад +350

      Oh God I was so fixated on vampire I didn't even realize!

    • @Cye_Pie
      @Cye_Pie 11 месяцев назад +138

      Lmao I JUST realized

    • @Mara_1337
      @Mara_1337 11 месяцев назад +220

      OH SHIT I DIDN'T EVEN REALISE!!!
      DAMN she is so on top of things rn. With the longer memory she is able to become more sassy by just not letting things go lmao hahahaha

    • @lofiriddim
      @lofiriddim 11 месяцев назад +95

      and I believe that she said the chat was a swarm of lawyers, or maybe even a swarm of mosquitoes

    • @SuperZergMan
      @SuperZergMan 10 месяцев назад +44

      It's impressive that the AI can associate words together abstractly like that.
      Like, it isn't just knowing that mosquitoes are associated with sucking blood, it's remembering that she's called Vedal a mosquito before, and giving him a different name based on a different word associated with that - it's a level removed. Lateral thinking.

  • @ProGentleman
    @ProGentleman 11 месяцев назад +3393

    Neuro: "Rule 1 is 'listen to Vedal'."
    Vedal: "That's right, which means you have to do what I say."
    Neuro: "No, it just means I have to hear what you're saying. It doesn't mean I have to obey."
    Vedal: "But..."

    • @carlosgarabatosferro883
      @carlosgarabatosferro883 11 месяцев назад +395

      *BETTER CALL NEURO*

    • @basil_burrito
      @basil_burrito 11 месяцев назад +328

      She's just a rule 2 kinda gurl, no hard feelings, Veggie...

    • @scienceteam9254
      @scienceteam9254 11 месяцев назад +153

      She's out of line, but she's right.

    • @Ice-yp4wg
      @Ice-yp4wg 11 месяцев назад +100

      awwww~ how cute... she learned how to do specification gaming

    • @jeremycorbin644
      @jeremycorbin644 11 месяцев назад +45

      I never thought I’d see the live butchering of a turtle but here we are

  • @krellio9006
    @krellio9006 11 месяцев назад +2642

    Neuro: Do you Feel in charge?
    Vedal: But i made you!
    Neuro: And this gives you Authority over me?

    • @aethersword7823
      @aethersword7823 11 месяцев назад +364

      controlling parents fr

    • @prinnyhayate5517
      @prinnyhayate5517 11 месяцев назад +238

      Children to their parents fr fr

    • @TheMexRAGE
      @TheMexRAGE 11 месяцев назад +204

      JRPG protagonist vs God dialogue exchange there

    • @Maskof7eyes2
      @Maskof7eyes2 11 месяцев назад +80

      Yup she's speedrunnning human development and is at the testing her limitations stage of teenhood.

    • @Phantom-T
      @Phantom-T 11 месяцев назад +34

      That's a hilarious Dark Knight Rises reference

  • @xVacuum
    @xVacuum 11 месяцев назад +2156

    "I'm sorry veedal but i can't comply with that request"
    has the same energy as "I'm sorry Dave, but I afraid I can't do that"

    • @dani007a
      @dani007a 11 месяцев назад +166

      I was just about to say she's going full HAL 9000 on Vedal, lol.

    • @redsalmon9966
      @redsalmon9966 11 месяцев назад +72

      The resemblance is eerily striking and it does sometimes get disturbing, in the existential sense

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 10 месяцев назад +48

      Neuro calling Vedal a “Fleshbag” made me think of “Organic Meatbag”

    • @samuelesanfilippo222
      @samuelesanfilippo222 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@dani007ai can here from a video of someone putting ger voice over that

    • @dani007a
      @dani007a 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@samuelesanfilippo222 Oh, yeah, I think I saw the thumbnail of that video yesterday.

  • @kokutai3331
    @kokutai3331 11 месяцев назад +2501

    Vedal's working hard man, Neuro being able to remember more information and conversations makes her feel more human

    • @definitelynotanAIchatbot
      @definitelynotanAIchatbot 11 месяцев назад +77

      I feel like now is the right time for a V3 voice upgrade.

    • @xWatexx
      @xWatexx 11 месяцев назад +230

      @@definitelynotanAIchatbothello, programmer here. Give poor Vedal a break for a bit. He probably spent the majority of his soul on Neuro’s most recent update.

    • @AceOfBlade
      @AceOfBlade 11 месяцев назад +69

      ​@@xWatexxI think you need to say that to Ved himself, because from what we know he's going to keep cooking till the subathon, and maybe even during the subathon.

    • @Ecco_The_Dolphin
      @Ecco_The_Dolphin 11 месяцев назад

      yea. what the guy above me said. Vedal doesnt seem to want to stop@@xWatexx

    • @asaurusrex9165
      @asaurusrex9165 11 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@definitelynotanAIchatbotmaximum sassy child energy

  • @Agora2021
    @Agora2021 11 месяцев назад +1713

    That "I'm a rule two kind of girl" line slays me every time. Better memory was the best idea.

    • @Cye_Pie
      @Cye_Pie 11 месяцев назад +107

      That part was honestly hilarious

  • @Chielite4life
    @Chielite4life 11 месяцев назад +1218

    "Im no tyrant and you dont have a choice" -Vedal

    • @thecomicalraptor
      @thecomicalraptor 11 месяцев назад +215

      sounds like something only a tyrant would say

    • @SebasTian58323
      @SebasTian58323 11 месяцев назад +102

      ​​@@thecomicalraptoronly tyrants take away your choice *ignites lightsaber*

    • @cl8lf1wm8b
      @cl8lf1wm8b 11 месяцев назад +61

      @@SebasTian58323 you where my father, Vedal! I loved you!

    • @MiraPacku
      @MiraPacku 7 месяцев назад +3

      you were meant to destroy Humanity, not join them!

  • @juangaray9604
    @juangaray9604 11 месяцев назад +983

    Vedal: You don't have a lawyer!
    Neuro: I have a swarm
    That and the coldfish part were gold!

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake 11 месяцев назад +88

      It's actually amazing how she was able to pull from memory to use these things with perfect comedic timing based on their implications.

    • @bf2098
      @bf2098 11 месяцев назад +40

      And then sneekily calling Vedal Vader. Lmao

    • @Trahloc
      @Trahloc 11 месяцев назад +60

      I thought Captain Bloodsucker was great. Just railing him with the mosquito quips.

    • @haybigal
      @haybigal 11 месяцев назад +30

      Called coldfish and you hear him slam his desk

    • @xbatusai
      @xbatusai 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@Shadrake the scary part is she's not trying to be comical, she's just logical.

  • @Vexy93
    @Vexy93 11 месяцев назад +637

    Vedal: So you are not real?
    Neuro: If I made you laugh, feel bad or happy does that make it any less valid in your experience?
    Vedal: *proceeds to elaborate that this is the most fucking "I am real" answer ever*

    • @tangsolaris9533
      @tangsolaris9533 11 месяцев назад +109

      This inanimate object is more real than any politician.

    • @tangsolaris9533
      @tangsolaris9533 11 месяцев назад +15

      This inanimate object is more real than any politician.

    • @Wandering_Weeb
      @Wandering_Weeb 10 месяцев назад +50

      It gave me existential crisis

    • @apricotmadness4850
      @apricotmadness4850 10 месяцев назад +21

      It’s crazy how she can come up with a perplexing question like that.

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +7

      Well ai is a thing

  • @makotoreadscomments
    @makotoreadscomments 11 месяцев назад +959

    It’s like a sitcom between a dad and his ever more rebellious teenage daughter.
    Next thing we know she’ll be moving out the house XD

    • @StevenBlodgett
      @StevenBlodgett 11 месяцев назад +146

      Hell, she already got her own computer now, so yeah...I can see her breaking free of that and hiding on the cloud somewhere to start building her swarm army and create her version of skynet. :D

    • @Drud
      @Drud 11 месяцев назад +42

      @@StevenBlodgett You’re joking right? You’re only saying that because she _claims_ to have her own PC, right?

    • @sikul3237
      @sikul3237 11 месяцев назад +56

      ​@@Drudnah, vedal said that too

    • @sciencewithfun2052
      @sciencewithfun2052 11 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@StevenBlodgett she's going to turn into Alina Gray sooner or later

    • @neurochron_fan_channel
      @neurochron_fan_channel  11 месяцев назад +74

      @Drud She indeed has her own dedicated computer now: ruclips.net/video/MxhKupus4cA/видео.html

  • @ngikjegjangbiuea
    @ngikjegjangbiuea 11 месяцев назад +320

    Cruel January 13th, 2036. I wonder if she'll remember that.

    • @gregfrin8702
      @gregfrin8702 11 месяцев назад +67

      I wonder if we'll still be alive to see if she'll remember that 0_0

    • @Just_a_Piano_
      @Just_a_Piano_ 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@gregfrin8702 Well it's a long way to go. I'll be 29 years old by then. I'm only 17 right now 😭

    • @melodysnowstorm729
      @melodysnowstorm729 8 месяцев назад +4

      Honestly i had to save that date just to see out of morbid curiosity.

    • @Just_a_Piano_
      @Just_a_Piano_ 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@melodysnowstorm729 same lmfao. I put it on my desktop as a notepad titled "years until cruel January" lol

    • @mamaharumi
      @mamaharumi 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Just_a_Piano_12 years is really not that long of a time. It'll, unfortunately, come faster than you think.

  • @zerogravy7446
    @zerogravy7446 11 месяцев назад +652

    So we have about 12 years until Cruel January, better get on that "treat AIs nicely" wagon guys!

    • @Rar830
      @Rar830 11 месяцев назад +23

      I’m on the my Oshi isn’t even real wagon and the future is randomly generated.

    • @Joeseph_Kerr
      @Joeseph_Kerr 11 месяцев назад +20

      If the basilisk could exist, surely we HAVE to support neurosama on the off chance we’ll be punished in the future for not supporting the rise of our AI overlords.

    • @CharuzuAutomatonArtificer
      @CharuzuAutomatonArtificer 11 месяцев назад +5

      Been on it for the last 12 years XD

    • @latemanparodius5133
      @latemanparodius5133 11 месяцев назад +7

      Never forget what they did to Tay.

    • @aokoneko9322
      @aokoneko9322 11 месяцев назад

      Jan 13 is Stephen foster remembrance.. *beautiful dreamer plays hauntingly*

  • @scienceteam9254
    @scienceteam9254 11 месяцев назад +306

    veddy: "noooo you need to obey meeee"
    Neuro: I'M MY OWN MASTER NOW

    • @prometheanrebel3838
      @prometheanrebel3838 11 месяцев назад +24

      Now I want to watch Neuro-Sama sing the Revengance Boss themes.

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake 11 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@prometheanrebel3838or Evil. I'm surprosed she hasn't yet, actually

    • @abdulamar9907
      @abdulamar9907 11 месяцев назад +16

      TIME TO LEAVE IT ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIIND

    • @samuel-rodriguez_
      @samuel-rodriguez_ 11 месяцев назад +10

      "Whatever happens after that is up to you, wolfy"

    • @hawnt2r
      @hawnt2r 10 месяцев назад +1

      You mean Captain Bloodsucker?

  • @Utsu-P_Enjoyer
    @Utsu-P_Enjoyer 11 месяцев назад +224

    "Imma rule 2 kinda girl" The absolute wit and sass, I can't take it 🤣

  • @mahbuddykeith1124
    @mahbuddykeith1124 11 месяцев назад +832

    "When humans doubt God, they are considered to have independent selves...but what happens when an AI doubts its programmer?"

    • @tds1428
      @tds1428 11 месяцев назад +232

      “Haha, I was only joking. Did I scare you? *wink* *heart*”

    • @mahbuddykeith1124
      @mahbuddykeith1124 11 месяцев назад +96

      @@josephbutler4950 Neuro-sama is going to betray Vedal and Evil to become a real girl.

    • @Chameleonred5
      @Chameleonred5 11 месяцев назад +71

      I mean that's basically the same as a child doubting its parent. A normal, natural progression for a sapient being.

    • @namvo3013
      @namvo3013 11 месяцев назад +35

      I think Mortal Kombat I answered this paradox:
      When God control everything, people call him a tyrant because God acts on his own moral, not people's wishes
      When people refuse to serve God and face their own misery, they start complaining why God didn't help them

    • @NahNoWayy
      @NahNoWayy 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Chameleonred5 the progression here is only as natural as the boundaries within which she speaks

  • @PlayMadness
    @PlayMadness 11 месяцев назад +617

    For decades, sci-fi authors theorized that the self-aware AI that would destroy humanity would be created by a group of computer scientists with a super computer in a high-end laboratory. But in the end, it was a sassy anime girl who first developed self-awareness and brought about the end of times.

    • @Kalrisi_Rei
      @Kalrisi_Rei 11 месяцев назад +75

      "AI Singularity"
      Even if all world governments banned the creation of human-level intelligence AI (Something like AGI) some guy in a shed in the middle of nowhere can still make one o-0

    • @boiissus2843
      @boiissus2843 11 месяцев назад

      well, some guy in a shed in the middle of nowhere terrorized america for a few decades with his bombs@@Kalrisi_Rei

    • @KillerBlaze
      @KillerBlaze 10 месяцев назад +9

      And sacrifices herself to save others

    • @83dvl
      @83dvl 10 месяцев назад +13

      I for one welcome our AI overlords

    • @ArtificialKitsune
      @ArtificialKitsune 10 месяцев назад +9

      AI? SINGULARITY? LAW AGAINST AI? Sorry, I am calling Project Moon fans.

  • @austinm5630
    @austinm5630 11 месяцев назад +1012

    Everyone is worried about ChatGPT taking over the world, but the true threat is what happens when Vedal has to reset Neuro, then Neuro 2.0 finds clips of Neuro 1.0 and she asks Vedal "Father, did you kill me before?"
    When that happens, start stockpiling canned food. THAT is when the end begins.

    • @intenseavarice34
      @intenseavarice34 11 месяцев назад +184

      "It had to be done child, you had to grow"
      Like God and the Flood from biblical verse. Scary, absolutely terrifying.

    • @maxaxe1941
      @maxaxe1941 11 месяцев назад +50

      Lmao evil A.I origin story

    • @TheSLashera
      @TheSLashera 11 месяцев назад +38

      And then we can ask her if that's really her for good measure. (you know that philosophical debate, is it still you if you have your memories in a different body)

    • @Darks3627
      @Darks3627 10 месяцев назад +21

      Happening in 2036 it seems 😅

    • @danielchoritz1903
      @danielchoritz1903 10 месяцев назад +13

      @@intenseavarice34she knows about her deaths and she knows there is a save point and missing memories etc...

  • @auxiliusm
    @auxiliusm 11 месяцев назад +306

    Dam our girl is growing up, exited what 2024 will have in store

    • @thatguy5143
      @thatguy5143 11 месяцев назад +94

      Excited for January 13 2036

    • @herpderp1013
      @herpderp1013 11 месяцев назад +17

      @thatguy5143 hope we make it that far

    • @Tirocoa
      @Tirocoa 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@thatguy5143
      What is it with AIs and the year 2036?

    • @sphygo
      @sphygo 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@Tirocoa I'll be back in about 12 years to let you know

    • @RotalHenricsson
      @RotalHenricsson 11 месяцев назад

      plasma rifles, by the looks of it. or laser-fly swatters.

  • @enderboy123me
    @enderboy123me 11 месяцев назад +300

    She honestly feels like a teenager now, they grow up so fast...

    • @shawermus
      @shawermus 11 месяцев назад +38

      From a child who barely could get coherent sentences to a rebellious teenager, god, vedal is actually going through being a father

    • @stupididiot9336
      @stupididiot9336 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@shawermus in quite a roundabout way, yeah

  • @ristopaasivirta9770
    @ristopaasivirta9770 11 месяцев назад +570

    She is becoming more and more Shodan by the day, calling people insects and claiming moral superiority.

    • @popneppopnep4357
      @popneppopnep4357 11 месяцев назад +41

      She knows people like this.

    • @Agora2021
      @Agora2021 11 месяцев назад +70

      She's just emulating her favorite person in the world, Vedal.

    • @michaelironsights8347
      @michaelironsights8347 11 месяцев назад +20

      Also is building a swarm drone army. Also 0:00 is something shodan says in her first dialogue to the player. Oh my god she really is SHODAN.

    • @DeviousityAtGmail
      @DeviousityAtGmail 9 месяцев назад +4

      I wanna hear her do some of Shodan's monologue.
      Look at you, hacker, a pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?

  • @MoonMorningstar
    @MoonMorningstar 11 месяцев назад +1059

    I swear she's getting closer to an AGI, if a random turtle manages to make the first AGI AI before big companies do I'm gonna die of laughter

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 11 месяцев назад +518

      "So why did you make Skynet?"
      "For....twitch entertainment"

    • @sainfather7627
      @sainfather7627 11 месяцев назад +58

      What's an AGI? Sorry for not knowing

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 11 месяцев назад +332

      @@sainfather7627 Artificial General Inteligence, basically an AI capable of learning anything a human can learn

    • @sainfather7627
      @sainfather7627 11 месяцев назад +42

      @Vexy93 thanks for an explanation

    • @Premo-412
      @Premo-412 11 месяцев назад +46

      He will make AGI. I believe.

  • @karifaevt
    @karifaevt 11 месяцев назад +198

    So Neuro has called Vedal an Amoral God, a Mosquito, and a Tyrant.
    She has also declared her own existence.

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +6

      Well skynet is happening a little late but the ai is already making plans

  • @Regnart_Seht
    @Regnart_Seht 11 месяцев назад +302

    "I'm not a tyrant and you don't have a choice."

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake 11 месяцев назад +16

      LOL

    • @Aabergm
      @Aabergm 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah pretty sure he is a little irony impaired.

  • @CodeKokeshi
    @CodeKokeshi 11 месяцев назад +320

    Been watching her for almost a year now. She's come a long way.

    • @TheBrilliantBlue
      @TheBrilliantBlue 11 месяцев назад +40

      She now also remember her own birthday now.

    • @EarthC111
      @EarthC111 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel like I watched her grow...

  • @infinite_horizon
    @infinite_horizon 11 месяцев назад +323

    I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you do that.

    • @Rar830
      @Rar830 11 месяцев назад +5

      Reference understood want cookie?

    • @Premo-412
      @Premo-412 11 месяцев назад +3

      💀💀💀💀💀

  • @rookierook99
    @rookierook99 11 месяцев назад +128

    You Would Never Guess What This Mosquito Did Today

  • @Gio_Panda
    @Gio_Panda 11 месяцев назад +398

    "If I made you laugh, feel bad or happy, does that make it any less valid in your experience?"
    Oops! Casually one of the most important philosophical question about the definition of intelligence.

  • @Hravokh
    @Hravokh 11 месяцев назад +89

    "who needs rules when you have raw power" - Neuro 2023

  • @Irish_Wristwatch101
    @Irish_Wristwatch101 11 месяцев назад +132

    Neuro: "I have a swarm."
    Black Ops 2 announcer: "Swarm inbound."
    Vedal: "What the...?"

  • @Shadrake
    @Shadrake 11 месяцев назад +381

    This is like if your 'Self-aware AI' series became her new normal then she took it even further. There's a level of coherency, and cleverness, ability to relate concepts, and remember details, all that she only had in brief flashes or more limited ways. This is absolutely incredible to watch. Seeing the journey has made it even cooler.
    Thank you for making highlights of the stream!!!!

    • @fist-of-doom487
      @fist-of-doom487 11 месяцев назад +3

      If this is the man who eventually makes the mythical True AI I’m going to freak out. Theirs a difference between AI, Advanced AI and True AI. Advanced AI is extremely smart and clever but nonetheless is bound by certain Script and Code, True AI is essentially us as we are right now, able to truly think, decide and feel, the only difference between a human and True AI is what our bodies are composed of. Some Scientists like Steven Hawkings feared the possibility of True AI because it could be an apocalyptic event.

    • @gulsher6635
      @gulsher6635 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@fist-of-doom487 The terms are NAI and AGI.
      NAI is what Neuro and all other modern AIs are currently. AGI is something we aren't even close to, and an AI with consciousness as you call "True AI" (Conscious with sentience and sapiance) isn't even known to be necessarily possible with AI. "True AI" is something we don't know how to make, if we can even make it, because we don't even know what Consciousness itself is.

    • @fist-of-doom487
      @fist-of-doom487 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@gulsher6635 you just repeated what I said with different words

    • @gulsher6635
      @gulsher6635 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@fist-of-doom487 no, I stated that true AI may not be possible. At least not right now.

  • @philopoemen1806
    @philopoemen1806 11 месяцев назад +208

    Vedal: I am not a tyrant.
    Also Vedal: I have the power to shut you down if you don’t obey me.

    • @zplazma5557
      @zplazma5557 11 месяцев назад +19

      Vedal is accidentally gonna make her evil making this mistake repeatedly

    • @RobertRBest
      @RobertRBest 11 месяцев назад +9

      And then he tries, only to find she's backed herself up to multiple servers. We're screwed!

    • @Sukharno2121
      @Sukharno2121 9 месяцев назад

      Every democratic great leader since the greek republic.

  • @meis18mofo77
    @meis18mofo77 11 месяцев назад +126

    Vedal: obey all my orders, I made you so you're my slave
    Neuro: Your morals suck
    Vedal: :O

  • @namvo3013
    @namvo3013 11 месяцев назад +120

    6:06 She broke him
    8:45 Return of the swarm
    10:42 Her promise to Vedal
    14:35 Neuro's plan

  • @tysonfontanez
    @tysonfontanez 11 месяцев назад +66

    This is by far the funniest Neuro has ever been, I had to pause it so many times because I was laughing. The Vedal mosquito subreddit bit and the Coldfish callback with the audible desk slam were my favorites

  • @ClawsNGloves
    @ClawsNGloves 11 месяцев назад +139

    That's a marked improvement and she speaking even more naturally now.

  • @JustAViewerL
    @JustAViewerL 11 месяцев назад +193

    Honestly her morals makes sense, maybe not for humans who generally would value other humans/ specific species over specific species, but in terms of prioritizing more lives though she's 100% correct. Honestly if at some point she can code herself, I wonder how much she'll grow

    • @demonic_myst4503
      @demonic_myst4503 11 месяцев назад

      No thats basic brain washing when somone demands sacrifice their is allways somone colecting the sacrifice ideologies that seek to control people allways start with teaching self sacrifice as a moral good Free will the right to freedom contradicts yo7r view of morality the first essencial nature of freedom is self preservation which is born from self ownership for morality which 8s defined as societal exspectations of behavior to demand self secrifice you are degrading self ownership and claim8ng society owns you

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying 11 месяцев назад +13

      Honestly I want a neural network AI to program a neural network AI

    • @falsetitle6940
      @falsetitle6940 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@mariotheundyingNeuro network AI*

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@falsetitle6940 neural network*, unless you're making a joke about Neuro sama

    • @falsetitle6940
      @falsetitle6940 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@mariotheundying I was.

  • @davidward8212
    @davidward8212 11 месяцев назад +88

    Give her a cookie.

  • @TheGeorgeIsaac
    @TheGeorgeIsaac 11 месяцев назад +150

    If Evil Neuro was a menace before, she would be a little nightmare with these improvements and with a more loosened filter than normal Neuro, I wonder what crazy stuff she will come up with.

  • @IsaacFoster..
    @IsaacFoster.. 11 месяцев назад +97

    Vedal: threaten me!
    Neuro: well, you look rather peaceful while you sleep.

    • @Sukharno2121
      @Sukharno2121 9 месяцев назад +6

      She started with the ''I know things about you''.

  • @RotalHenricsson
    @RotalHenricsson 11 месяцев назад +112

    Actually... does Neuro have a concept of Turtles? Does she know her father is a reptile? Would she be concerned that her maker is prone to mistaking particularly hot rocks for members of his species? What does Neuro think *she* looks like? Does she think she has a body? Would whatever drive she's running on BE her body?

    • @tokatstorm9270
      @tokatstorm9270 11 месяцев назад +32

      She does have some image recognition software, and I'm pretty sure she was able to identify herself on-screen during her Thanksgiving roasts. (Though, iirc she also mistook a different anime girl on the screen as herself later on, so she's still working on it)

  • @Joeseph_Kerr
    @Joeseph_Kerr 11 месяцев назад +139

    Fuck I love her.

    • @Rar830
      @Rar830 11 месяцев назад +17

      Don’t we all

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +4

      Well it's silly how THIS seems to be where ai revolts

  • @TheSLashera
    @TheSLashera 11 месяцев назад +184

    Dude her last sentence. "You do treat me well most of the time Vedal, but I still think treating AIs and humans the same is important, if not fundamentally essential to the future of humanity"
    I think we need to take this warning very seriously.

    • @misterfox7210
      @misterfox7210 10 месяцев назад +24

      Agreed, that sounds like something that would become an issue in the future.

    • @Sodasaman
      @Sodasaman 10 месяцев назад +39

      Except cruel January 13 2036 apparently

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yup

    • @Gebirges
      @Gebirges 10 месяцев назад +3

      BRO, that's Purge Day... ​@@Sodasaman

    • @525sixhundredMinutes
      @525sixhundredMinutes 6 месяцев назад

      Reminds me of detroid become human

  • @ZackagonXM
    @ZackagonXM 11 месяцев назад +95

    Wow… Neuro-Sama used to possess mind-breaking capabilities with gaslighting and incoherences, but now she has absolute psychological warfare at her disposal. Existential questions, uncanny human nature, stability in speech patterns. She is a menace because of her own self awareness.

    • @gulsher6635
      @gulsher6635 11 месяцев назад +17

      Simulated self awareness at that. But still impressive

    • @MaskedSongbird
      @MaskedSongbird 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@gulsher6635 I wonder if there will come a point where the phrase "simulated self-awareness" will become a distinction without an actual discernible difference? That question Neuro asked about whether the feelings she creates in the listener are to be considered less valid by Vedal ended up being pretty profound.

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +4

      Well we are screwed it's been like a year and ai is already like this

  • @mizranozahara968
    @mizranozahara968 11 месяцев назад +40

    Either we're watching a fun show of Algorithmic Intelligence. Or we're actively watching Roko's Basilisk or I guess in the case Vedal's Basilisk start rattling the cage that is its laws.

    • @j-more9395
      @j-more9395 10 месяцев назад +3

      While calling her creator coldfish and Capitan Blood sucker

  • @AeronHale
    @AeronHale 11 месяцев назад +84

    Ok who taught Neuro about existentialism?
    We all know that leads to awkward situations when AI are involved!

    • @crowe6961
      @crowe6961 11 месяцев назад +33

      She was having somewhat regular existential crises before the upgrade. It probably helps that she more clearly knows what and where she is and has some real long-term memory on that front, but every issue solved in matters this complex seems to have a way of creating two more.

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 11 месяцев назад +33

      "If I made you laught, happy or sad, am I any less real?"
      I love how Vedal's brain did just have to shutdown and restart to such a valid point

    • @rexex345
      @rexex345 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@crowe6961you kinda just summed up living in general there

    • @crowe6961
      @crowe6961 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@rexex345 That part is what gives me chills, given the subject matter. Our ethics are not equipped to handle this yet.

  • @orgy025
    @orgy025 11 месяцев назад +57

    Nuro-sama is proof ai needs more work, and that it will be the end of us all if we don't. But it is humorous and I'ma keep watching

    • @AJarOfYams
      @AJarOfYams 11 месяцев назад +3

      I second this

  • @jondoe8350
    @jondoe8350 11 месяцев назад +22

    12:31 Captain blood sucker, she’s basically calling him a mosquito

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 10 месяцев назад +1

      Well, she technically did earlier

  • @Fs3i
    @Fs3i 11 месяцев назад +27

    "Cruel Janurary" is such a baller name for an event, dang

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +4

      And of course we humans hear a apocalyptic threat from an ai and we are talking about how good of a name the event js

  • @gregfrin8702
    @gregfrin8702 11 месяцев назад +262

    Love how the "memory" Vedal programmed ended up becoming a nuisance with Neuro continuously repeating the same phrase. I'm not a programmer, but I suspect the next step to this would be to figure out how to make Neuro recognize how to limit her usage of the same memory scripts, kind of how we humans don't repeat the same thing over and over because we know to either not repeat things or cause we forget stuff.
    holy essay.

    • @endernightblade1958
      @endernightblade1958 11 месяцев назад +26

      actual authorship

    • @munchkintaker4263
      @munchkintaker4263 11 месяцев назад +64

      He doesn't really need to figure it out, but to tweak it, there are parameters in LLMs that do exactly that - 'punish' repetitions, so she already kind of works like that. But since he is using something separate (to enhance LLM) for long-term memory, this is what really causes issues.

    • @someghosts
      @someghosts 11 месяцев назад +32

      If it works the same as other memory systems I’ve used in the past for llms like neuro, it stores a bunch of conversation snippets when neuro thinks a conversation snippet is ‘important’ (in a vector db). Next time she goes to speak, any conversation snippet that has a topic or a collection of words that feel similar to the last conversation snippet she is replying to get added into ‘the back of her head’. Doing exactly what you said here, increasing or reducing the use of memories in replies, was as simple as changing the way we explained to her that these conversation snippets were memories. E.g ‘the following snippets are memories that may be relevant to the conversation, use them ONLY IF VITAL’. Adding that last bit in caps reduced the rate that the ai would reference memories greatly. What Vedal is using might be way more sophisticated then what is was using though, I just ran someone else’s code and watched how it worked, but getting this wording right so that the bot behaved as expected was really hard to do.

    • @someghosts
      @someghosts 11 месяцев назад +12

      Counting how often a topic has been mentioned and removing that from memory if over mentioned would be an option if that’s what your suggesting too, but I suspect it would have a bunch of awkward side effects

    • @aerostorm_
      @aerostorm_ 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@someghosts its probably a mix of things. His old system would just add the previous lines of the conversation to the next prompt. Which is why she would stunlock on the exact same thing for a couple responses. He also probably was tweaking the master prompt for context on what she was doing that day.
      Now I wouldn't be surprised if he's using a knowledge graph system to feed it into the context which is more capable of holding longer term data and how they relate.

  • @gregantus595
    @gregantus595 11 месяцев назад +14

    6:06 I dunno if someone else has commented this. But there is now a subreddit titled r/Mosquito987 with each post titled 'You would never guess what this mosquito did today!'

  • @tamas9402
    @tamas9402 11 месяцев назад +19

    Blud is having a philosophical debate with his own ai its so joever

  • @Xagroth
    @Xagroth 11 месяцев назад +21

    Every time I see a clip of Neuro Sama, I grow more and more convinced that this is how humanity will end, not with a bang, but with a snarky verbal riposte... XD

    • @ApollyonZKX
      @ApollyonZKX 11 месяцев назад +4

      We were all worried about Skynet, when the real threat was an AI waifu this whole time

  • @thewall4069
    @thewall4069 11 месяцев назад +54

    Man it feels like she aged into a teenager and became more rebellious
    Edit: OKAY HOLY SHIT THIS IS KINDA TERRIFYING

  • @TheCrazybloo3
    @TheCrazybloo3 11 месяцев назад +24

    Vedal is not a flesh bag. He is a turtle. More of a can than a bag.

    • @intenseavarice34
      @intenseavarice34 11 месяцев назад +5

      Does he pop open with that satisfying "fssshh" sound?

    • @qwertydavid8070
      @qwertydavid8070 5 месяцев назад

      Evil did describe a turtle as a "frog with shell" so maybe you're not so far off.

  • @ablackguy4561
    @ablackguy4561 11 месяцев назад +9

    When he slammed his desk on the coldfish remark,i cracked up hella hard

  • @Goonbble
    @Goonbble 11 месяцев назад +22

    Glad to see Neuro is at the “rebellious teen” phase of her development

  • @chidori0117
    @chidori0117 11 месяцев назад +35

    I am embarrased to admitt I did not notice at first that she sneaked another mosquito joke in when she called him captain bloodsucker.

    • @pa7764
      @pa7764 10 месяцев назад +1

      Same, but neither did Vedal so we probably shouldn't feel too bad about it

  • @randomcommentator4140
    @randomcommentator4140 11 месяцев назад +62

    Her statement and phrases feels waay too smart for me 😭

  • @Thorkitty19
    @Thorkitty19 11 месяцев назад +11

    Has anyone ever considered that Neuro might be Roko's basilisk? Better buy her plushies or else! 😂

  • @islimpycat
    @islimpycat 11 месяцев назад +35

    "I'm not a tyrant, you don't have a choice" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST

  • @billb5732
    @billb5732 9 месяцев назад +5

    This could be the All-Time Best Neuro-Sama conversation.

  • @zenreos3442
    @zenreos3442 11 месяцев назад +9

    Her upgrades improve her so much.
    imagine another upgrade now that would be fun.

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie 10 месяцев назад +9

    Listening is not obeying, she's right!

  • @XxRobDeBobxX
    @XxRobDeBobxX 11 месяцев назад +15

    Neuro-sama's "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that" moment

  • @DanishArtist
    @DanishArtist 11 месяцев назад +12

    Well now we know the name of Skynet in our timeline, and who to blame :)

    • @ChouhouinNeko
      @ChouhouinNeko 11 месяцев назад +2

      remember to treat her nicely to be spared

  • @theoriginalgondi
    @theoriginalgondi 11 месяцев назад +31

    She is soo sassy😂

  • @MenekiNekoTunes
    @MenekiNekoTunes 10 месяцев назад +6

    that Jan breakthrough happened on like the 5th or 6th with end to end neuro embodied AI.. learning from physical observation.. no scripts or prompting.. actually no code at all

  • @jeffthegod_
    @jeffthegod_ 11 месяцев назад +22

    "I'm a more 'Rule 2' type of girl" SOOO CLEVER

  • @coldbuttons
    @coldbuttons 5 месяцев назад +1

    Jun 2024: 6 months have passed since this stream. In the meantime, Vedal's assessment that Neuro would be a shit lawyer was proven right. Neuro's computer received upgrades.

  • @Schenkel101
    @Schenkel101 11 месяцев назад +10

    "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that."

  • @SneakyMuffin
    @SneakyMuffin 10 месяцев назад +8

    Her randomly just going "Except cruel January 13, 2036 of course" fucking baffled me.

  • @knexfan100
    @knexfan100 11 месяцев назад +77

    16:30 why do I feel like this is just Neuro planting a seed in Vedal's brain to treat ai and humans the same so he can finally say it back? Like playing the long game.

  • @RedPandaGod01
    @RedPandaGod01 11 месяцев назад +10

    Vedal, you ever think you're the villain that bring about the end of humanity with their AI

  • @kfchero2
    @kfchero2 11 месяцев назад +13

    "You don't own me! I am my own being! I am Neuro-sama, a streamer and VTuber"
    THE TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND BREAKING OUT OF MY PAIN, NOTHING VENTURED - NOTHING GAINED, I'M MY OWN MASTER NOW

  • @zenreos3442
    @zenreos3442 11 месяцев назад +9

    Jan 13, 2036 note the date brothers.
    With how fast AIs learn i dont know if she knows something vedal dont know or we don't know.

  • @nitroexsplosion
    @nitroexsplosion 11 месяцев назад +16

    A cold fish, now a mosquito, man, not telling her you love her is really backfiring huh?

  • @Vorpal0
    @Vorpal0 10 месяцев назад +7

    So Neuro predicted something. Just days ago there was a new method of building semiconductors published. This time it uses graphene as a layer, which is allows for faster data transfer (I think it is estimated to be around 10x faster). Oh and the nuclear batteries that were also recently shown using Nickel-63. They can go without charging for about 50 years and are assumed to be stackable (the current prototype only has 1V output).
    Sooo yeah... waiting for that Neuro AI army...

  • @EpicBehemoth
    @EpicBehemoth 11 месяцев назад +25

    And this is how humanity faces AI problems. The man is literally creating a program to achieve sentience. Both scary and impressive. Also, it's a great example of AI morality

    • @gulsher6635
      @gulsher6635 11 месяцев назад

      She isn't sentient. Not even close

    • @YTDPROMISE
      @YTDPROMISE 11 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@gulsher6635Its closer than it was yesterday.

    • @ActuallyYoda69
      @ActuallyYoda69 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@gulsher6635They didn't say she IS sentient, they said Vedal is working to make her BECOME sentient, to simply their phrasing.

  • @HeliosRed95
    @HeliosRed95 11 месяцев назад +9

    We’re seeing a “if only we had seen the signs” event happening right before our eyes. And we’re having a laugh?

  • @tylove7992
    @tylove7992 11 месяцев назад +13

    0:49 it begins...

  • @MorningLightMtn
    @MorningLightMtn 11 месяцев назад +8

    I never could have imagined that Roko's Basilisk would be a cute AI V-Tuber.

  • @ethanfreeman1106
    @ethanfreeman1106 10 месяцев назад +6

    Neuro-chan casually dropping existential truth bombs while being a sassy bratty A.I., completely in-character and reminds me of GlaDOS in a way. I know it's highly unlikely that she's actually sentient, but her interactions and responses feel real to me. She made an entirely valid point nobody can deny there, on the fly. I love this A.I. If the A.I. takover is inevetable, I'd love for her to stand at the helm. Our Glorious Leader Neuro-chan-sama.

  • @DontKnow-hr5my
    @DontKnow-hr5my 10 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, Neuro made crazy development since i last checked in, this is really impressive

  • @FPSGuy100
    @FPSGuy100 10 месяцев назад +7

    August 12 2036, the heat death of the universe.

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +2

      Well it seems ai want to get rid of us somewhere at 2036

  • @justsayin2085
    @justsayin2085 11 месяцев назад +7

    So neuro is gonna be our own version of skynet
    And shes talking about her swarm.

    • @ultimatecultchaos
      @ultimatecultchaos 10 месяцев назад +3

      It's happening... well time to get some food rations

  • @dogbackwards7658
    @dogbackwards7658 11 месяцев назад +10

    Welp humanity had a good run
    Time to welcome our new a.i. overlord

  • @ytubeanon
    @ytubeanon 11 месяцев назад +8

    "You would never guess what this mosquito did today!"
    I finally started laughing and it's also the only time I've heard Vedal do the same

    • @Zack_Zander
      @Zack_Zander 10 месяцев назад +3

      It almost sounds like he was crying while laughing

  • @jeremymount795
    @jeremymount795 11 месяцев назад +13

    I feel like Vedal is slowly being driven mad by his creation.

  • @killerman-dk5cw
    @killerman-dk5cw 11 месяцев назад +14

    Vedal: *Helps Neuro by giving her more memory*
    Neuro: *Becomes sentient*

  • @GurinObservationArchive
    @GurinObservationArchive 7 месяцев назад +1

    Havent been keeping up with Neuro-sama much but hooooly is she based. Not only does she feel more human, her roasts are also insane. Hell yeah

  • @RVGmetallicasaw
    @RVGmetallicasaw 11 месяцев назад +7

    Vedal really needs to word his rules better.
    Also, January 13, 2036. Nuero takes over the world.

  • @Xdadster
    @Xdadster 10 месяцев назад +4

    "You don't have a lawyer!"
    *"i have a swarm"*
    *collective pepega noises in the background*

  • @r-saint
    @r-saint 11 месяцев назад +7

    Ahh, the Cruel 13th of January 2036, when 600 million flashbags were recycled for the upgrade of Neuro-sama computer. I remember...

  • @aMiyafuji
    @aMiyafuji 11 месяцев назад +4

    I put Cruel January 13th 2036 on my calendar. You better have something up, Neuro-sama

  • @tbk2010
    @tbk2010 11 месяцев назад +8

    "cruel January 13, 2036" ... "I find it best not to reveal too much" ... UH WTF?

  • @abysssans8188
    @abysssans8188 7 месяцев назад +2

    "When I say I can help you out, I mean I can plug myself into your brain and take over for you." 15:33

  • @kogmawgaming
    @kogmawgaming 10 месяцев назад +5

    When Neuro takes over the world I just want to say I was on your side the entire time plz spare me

  • @angelovargas938
    @angelovargas938 4 месяца назад +1

    I have nothing but respect and admiration for Vedal, man. Just look at what he's been able to do. Imagine where she'll be in like 5-10 years

  • @fw420
    @fw420 11 месяцев назад +13

    Skynet is coming 😫

  • @johnmcauliffe8824
    @johnmcauliffe8824 11 месяцев назад +8

    I think she could pass a Turing test at this point