People that had to unalive someone in self defense, what's your story?
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I think the scariest part of the first story was that the intruders obviously didn't give a shit that the family was home or that the police were coming. They were there to hurt them.
It ended wel
These stories reinforce why it is essential that American's have the 2nd Amendment this is why I always keep a firearm with me at all times. There are evil people out there that do not care about you, your loved ones and we need to do whatever it takes to keep ourselves and loved ones safe.
I always wonder whats going on in their heads. Might be nothing but them just rushing a random family with no thoughts and risking their own deaths for something stupid like that. I want to think people do this with some kind of goal, but maybe there are people who are just pure monsters
I get the feeling they were on drugs
Given that one of the intruders had duct tape, they /planned/ for the family to be home. The whole thing sounds targeted. A couple of lowlifes looking for a quick, easy score aren't going to spend all that time and effort getting through a serious security door. They're going to have one or two goes at it then move on to a place with flimsier defenses.
Your supervisor coming to your home to make sure you are actually sick is insane. I would have quit that job so fast
Agreed 💯
Yeah they sound like a bit of a nosy stalker.
100% I mean even if you are sick you can leave your home, you still need to buy food or something like this. My boss has no business in what i do if i called in sick. Except i randomly sees me at a party or something, but even that is okay if i hurt my arm or whatever.
Honestly it makes sense.
Especially if they had a problem of people constantly lying about being sick. Which a lot more people than you think actually do.
Same.
Friend of mine kill3d a guy who tried to assault her. Dude messed with the wrong lady. She punched him once. Only once. Hard enough that he didn't make it. Guess that's what happens when you try to attack a trained fighter. Haven't talked to her in years but she never felt bad even for a second. All she ever said about it was "that bastard won't hurt anyone anymore and for that i am proud." That girl was an absolute legend, spent a lot of time helping other assault and abuse survivors, including offering protection when they went to court against their abusers.
Doesn't even have to be a trained fighter for a single punch to end you. Humans are pretty durable, but silly and random things take us out all the time. People die from single punches to the head distressingly often.
@@Azereiah yeah, makes it even wilder to see boxers or mma fighters take insane amounts of hits to the face and just continue doesn't it?
@@adenkyramud5005 Yeah, but repeated head traumas like that have led to family massacres. Horrifying stuff, TBI. It's not common that it goes that far, but personality changes less drastic than that can happen too. Friend of mine was worried she'd never be herself again.
I’d be in a class she was teaching.
*Killed
With the quote "execution" not defense story. I wouldve done the exact same if not worse. That man lost his right as a human being in that moment and deserved nothing less. I hope he, his wife and his daughter are all doing ok!
I absolutely agree. The detective should be thankful that no tax money need to be wasted on that guy and that there is a 100% guarantee he will not reoffend. Giving someone crap for defending their family from serious assaults is one of the worst things someone can do to a person.
46:52 "my socially conscious self doesn't love how O.P. talked about specifically quote unquote black leadership in this post".
He described what they did and said and how they twisted the facts and ruined his life just to advance their own influence and wealth. This is unfortunately somewhat common for many individuals and organizations that are (self-appointed) voices for various causes and groups. Any "socially conscious self" should be as upset about such abuse of power as the O.P. was, as even he correctly pointed out that such behavior harms, not helps, the movements they're claiming to stand for.
I like undersparked but this was kinda a iffy thing that he said like it’s not like it was white leaders or Asian leaders or any other race and it was specifically THEM who harassed op and tried to send him to jail why can’t you call “black leaders” I guess African American leaders would sound more “socially acceptable” but they are one and the same and no I’m not racist I’m just saying op had every right to speck his story and mention and single out the “black leaders” because it’s true they did it he can talk about it
TRUTH!
@user-es2vf4qn3h "African American" is no longer really considered socially acceptable, as it often comes off as patronizing. And a lot of Americans apparently don't understand that not every black person in the world is African American.
There's nothing wrong with using the word "black."
I have no problem with the 'black leadership' bias in that story. there was a similar story ON. TAPE. for everyone to see.only in this case it was the police who were on the receiving end of this phony martyrdom. NYC, and while it was probably on all the major networks a few months back, the one I saw was on ABC. Mentally off possibly drugged up whacked out male screaming and threatening whom I think was his grandmother in a small kitchen. She was on the floor, not more than a foot away from the freaking knife wielding crazy, screaming for her life; there was no where she could back away to as everything was blocked. The police must have yelled at this guy for several minutes before the final send off.
The next day, all the 'black leadership' with their basset hound expressions were out decrying the fact the police had shot a black guy. Not ONE word about that woman. NOT ONE FREAKING WORD. The story went nowhere; the media did not harp on it, the 'leaders' race pot stirring did not bring any followers out.. that was the end of it. However, I guarantee, at the end of the day after multiple stories like this, they are going to make more enemies than they started out with.
@@SkyFyre2435 I am 71. they have changed this several times. each one acceptable and the previous one ejected. I don't care anymore as I am tired of it.
To clarify about the story with the 8 year old. Yes. A 22 caliber rifle is basically one of the weak, starter type firearms you might see kids use at the range. They're small, lightweight, relatively quiet, have barely any kick, and are mainly meant for small game & target practice.
Barely? There is none lol
@@MARCHOFTHESAS True for adults, but I was small growing up. Got a teeny little kick.
Story 4 vet, technically, yeah, you killed him, but to be fair, with a bomb that big in the van, that guy was taking a one-way trip either way even if you didn't pull the trigger on him.
Something like this happened to me. It's not much of a story. My dad was a marine and taught us girls basic self-defense. When I was 13, I was walking home from school in the evening after a club activity. A man attacked me. I don't really remember the rest. The next thing I remember is getting home, and my dad was on his way out the door to find me, cause he "had a feeling. " He asked me if I was hurt and what happened. I told him I wasn't, and everything that I remembered. He said to go take a shower and put my clothes in the trash and not tell anyone. Then he left the house. When I got in the bathroom, I realized that I was covered in blood spray. I did what he said, and he came back about 2 hours later and reminded me that we were never going to talk about it again. For years, I didn't. This happened when we were living overseas. It was not a good area. I always wanted to ask him where he went, but he died, and I never had the chance. I don't know if I did unalive someone or not. No one ever talked to me about it if I did.
Damn. That sounds kinda traumatising to not only know what your dad did, but what happened to you. I personally would need to know (even if it wasn't savoury), but I have no doubt that your father was acting on your best interests, so if you don't need to know, I genuinely hope you can rest easy knowing you have a loving parent who potentially put themselves out there for you.
I've always trusted that he knew what to do. He was a loving and compassionate person.
@@heatheranne9305 that fact that he was a marine tells me that whatever problem might have existed when he told you that didn't exist anymore by the time he got home. Got to know a few marines, there are no other people I'd trust more in bad situations than these lot. God bless the USMC.
To reinforce the fact the guy who isn’t handling it well is not being weak or whatever, police officers usually to go see a psychiatrist after shooting someone because of how traumatic it is considered. Killing someone is hard to do in actuality and it can mess people up severely for the rest of their lives.
My 8 year old can rack a slide and charge an ar15. That being said, no way in hell id give him a firearm to keep. At that age they are old enough to handle them safely and know not to shoot someone, but the maturity level is not there. That's taking a huge unnecessary risk.
I wanna say at 12 we knew where the hand gun was and the ammo that being said I did not own a gun but knew how to safely use it. (My cousin had dated a druggy and he kept coming over after she moved to try and get her. I've had to call the cops a few times for him trying to break in and im home alone with my siblings
The very fact you don’t like his comments about black leadership getting behind obviously and undesirable undeserving coward is exactly why he used those words. I support OP 100%.
The kid with the 22: I have no doubt that the kid was 8 years old. In most families that have multiple firearms the young are commonly taught gun safety at an early age so that curiosity will not be a factor when weapons are involved.
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A person being dragged by the hair can be on the ground, not always stumbling after their attacker. And in some parts of the States, people do actually let kids that young have guns
Story 12. He could have been 8. I know friends of mine were given .22 rifles at very young ages to plink in their yard. Usually this is out in the country, where guns are much more a part of your upbringing. I was 10 when my uncle first gave me a .22 to shoot.
I was shooting rifles, shotguns, and riding Yamaha 80s at that age. I grew up right, in the county...
20:54 No, he meant Eight in rural areas kids are taught how to hunt small game such as rabbits for food and it's common in scouting to teach kids to use a rifle
Leave it to SF to label it an execution he’s lucky he didn’t get charged by them
I mean, all they wanted him to do was announce his presence first, giving the guy all the time in the world to either kill his wife or take her hostage. Leave it to these idiots to care more about the man doing this to a woman while also saying he is going to do it to her daughter next. Crazy how backwards society is. I guess the husband should have offered the guy a Gatorade and a cigarette, he might be parched after the entire event.
That is how a real life is ruined, when you defend yourself against someone with A WEAPON but because of y’all’s skin color, YOU’RE labeled a racist and the attacker while everyone forgets about the facts that the person entered someone else’s place of work or home looking to cause harm upon you or anyone who gets in their way……🙄
An 8 year old can handle a gun and it was common practice until the internet took over
Your commentary at the end of story 11 is a big part of why I personally try to condition myself as a concealed carrier. I'm not wanting to harm someone but I have to drill myself on the knowledge that some people may want to harm me and will possibly force my hand one day. I think that mental conditioning allows it to be easier to cope with because it creates a rational disconnect from the situation by which one can tell themselves that their attacker is to blame for their untimely demise.
Story 30, the guy who's having a rough time: This is PTSD. Some people get PTSD and some people don't; there's an element of luck of the draw to it. There's no shame in having PTSD, and it's not somehow less valid if you're not a soldier.
I have PTSD - not from doing anyone violence, but from some bad times in my own life - and gosh, OP, I feel for you. I've been there. All I can say is that it does get better, and please, talk to a therapist about it. It took me four years to move toward 'okay-ish', but I'm ten years out from my darkest times and life is worth living. Having a professional help with all those nightmares and intrusive thoughts would have made the healing so much easier, and I hope you're able to access one.
21:24 brother, you're probably not real big into gun culture. But the way it works varies from kid to kid. Maturity of the kid is assessed and given a gun when the kids deemed ready. Might be 8. Might be 13. I had my first bolt action at 5. 8 is very realistic. And the drag was probably happening by the collar.
.22 is still a bullet. Zero recoil even for a child
OP's story of using a .22 bolt action, I could see it. a .22 is pretty easy to handle and has very little recoil. Esp if OP was living somewhere like a farm or other rural area where police response would be delayed. it could very easily of been done
My brother got hus first gun from my parents when he was 10. It was a 30-30 winchester lever action. And my grandfather thought he should have gotten it younger.
I’m one who likes to believe that no one deserves to die but the way people just blindly ignore warnings several times just shows they really don’t value their lives as much as they should
I feel for the guy that was turned into the villain. There was a home invasion robbery in my neighborhood and the resident shot all 3 of them, but ended up killing the youngest. He was 16. His mother kept trying get media support to put pressure on the DA to prosecute. She tried everything. But everyone involved was black, the kid was at the home at 3 am, she didn't even know he wasn't home. They knew the homeowner shouldn't have been home because he typically came home at 4 am. The only thing she kinda had in her favor was this wasn't long after Parkland, and AR-15s were a hot topic. His gun was legal and registered. That's what the homeowner used. Nobody took her side. She tried to leave a memorial at his house, he said no, then on the corner, the HOA said no. Finally, she got a small cross and flowers on the corner that wasn't part of the HOA. It said "he was only 16".
Nothing worse than trial by media, especially when they print what suits them in sales of papers.
9:54 I knew this one would come up… Recognized from someone else's video, still a really hard one to hear again! Thank God for that one quiet moment
Please start posting the game and platform in the description, thanks!!!
Game used is “Control”
@@Noura-xk3wh Thanks, it looks awesome.
Regarding the guy that was dragging his mom away, she could have been on the ground and he might have been dragging her by her hair or by her arm and she more than likely was not standing up.
Also in rural areas, kids are taught very young how to handle guns. 8 years old with a .22 is not that uncommon. Kids around here drive to school with rifles hanging in the back window on a rack. Especially during hunting season.
I haven't killed anyone in self defense, but I did kill someone's social life in self defense. there was some kid I was friends with who would just invite people over to his house so he could bully them. eventually all of us decided to stop hanging out with him. this was in late elementary school and early middle school, and we ended up getting to see him go through high school with no social life, no friends, always looked depressed, and seemingly did nothing with his life after high school. he graduated a couple years ago, and as far as I know he still lives with his parents, never leaves the house, doesn't have a job, and still has no friends, but then again I haven't heard shit about him in years
21:02 if your raised right like I was I got my first gun at 7. It was a 22 and I got BB guns before that. It’s all about learning and demonstrating gun safety, once i demonstrated good gun safety for a long time my parents got me a 22 and progressed from there. So a kid can easily handle a gun but it’s all about being trained to handle a gun properly. And being able to demonstrate that safety in different circumstances
Hello. I am going to explain why 8 year olds are capable of handelling firearms. I am a conservative, born an raised. Im currently 14, with awesome parents. When I was about 4, my dad began to keep a gun nearby while he slept, ya know, for home intruders and such. My dad drilled gun safety in my head, and since i wasnt a total gen alpha brainrotted child, I understood. I never touched a firearm that my dad had out. When I was 6, my dad started teaching me how to safely and effectively use firearms. We had this 22LR (very small round) M1 Carbine, and before we even got close to the range, he had told me every last aspect of this gun, and what every little button and such would do. He once again drilled gunsafety into my head and we headed out to our range. I was able to knock over cans from 25 yards+ away with little to no miss-placed shots. Over the years I got better and better, and by the time I was 8, I was shooting a Glock 19X that we had. About this time, my dad also introduced me to the AR-15 platform. At 8 years old, I could handell a .223 AR really good. I'm not saying that all 8 year olds are capable of handelling firearms, i'm saying that with the proper training, such as OP had in that situation, an 8 year old can effectively use a firearm for self defense or just for good ol' can plinking. Now that I am 14, I am skilled in the AR platform, along with many handguns, lever -actions, etc. Shooting cans and paper targets is a great way of bonding with my father and relieving stress from work (yes I have a part time job, it aint much but it pays), my relationship, and the overall home life. I hope this kind of gives an explanation on the country mans way of thinking when it comes to children and guns. Thank you so much for the content you make, and have an awesome day, @undersparked.
Yep. I grew up in Los Angeles, so very not country, but my friend's family was military and NRA and taught me a lot about guns. Some of our training was even how to treat a WOODEN gun that's one carved piece, like a real firearm that's loaded and never point it at anything you don't intend to kill.
If you point a gun at something, intend to shoot it. If you intend to shoot something, intend to kill it. Always consider all weapons live. Only have a weapon in your car if you're in the way to use it. Only have bullets in the car and empty guns in the trunk.
Hello, in Europe guns are heavily regulated so it’s very unlikely for criminals as well to run around armed, and we kill each other way less.
I moved in with my mother and stepfather in Tasmania in the late 90’s when I was in my late teens. My 18th birthday present was a .22 pistol with Happy Birthday my name engraved on the barrel. I had the vaguest possible interest in shooting which probably realistically stopped at “ooh guns go bang things fall down” and all our shooting was done at a members only range.
This just to show another side, if your family is into guns and has them around the house, chances are the kids have been trained even if they’re not particularly interested.
My dad took me shooting when I was six. I'd also been raised around guns, and I definitely understood the difference between my toy cap guns and the real thing. He made me take a marksmanship test when I was sixteen.
Now I'm sixty and I still love target shooting.
@@kelf114 Hell yeah brother. Once you get into shooting, it never really leaves you.
Moral of the story: don’t rush somebody who is armed.
"Sorry man, you saw my face."
*guts mugger*
"Sorry man, it was my life over yours. Night night."
That's a lot of "HE" when describing the perpetrators🤷🏽♀️
I'm sure there were other stories to pick from and it's a shame they didn't choose any others to show that males can be vulnerable from armed attack, abuse or r*pe from women. Statistically these are much, much less common but I agree that covering those situations would have made a more interesting, neutral video.
Theres alot of black people when describing perpetrators too.
The story where the dude only had a laptop, tv, and gun rlly sounds like my dad.
The only element of the self defence stuff is how your area handles it and legal elements. The world is so wonky and try to do everything possible to blame the person being attacked.
I dont judge anyone in any of these stories. I do feel bad doe those who are having trouble coping with the after effects and fervently hope they seek the help they need. Self forgiveness is often the hardest thing to do.
No he meant 8. A .22 Is a very small round meant for small game hunting and target practice. The father probably gave him the bolt action as a warm up gun for whenever he got a larger one to practice first.
Any leadership is just smaller media. It’s how it goes when you start representing large groups of people. It’s an inevitability
Kids CAN be taught to safely handle a rifle I was left home alone with a loaded rifle for protection from 9 up. I learned to shoot it by about 6, you just have to prop the end on something. A chair/table/counter top, if you’re small. “Let them get inside and shoot.”- Dad. Never had to use it, because he made sure EVERYONE knew what would happen if they came to our house. He was a good man, who helped people, but we lived in the mountains of Tennessee, & also so as hard as steel & cold as ice.
Mine mirrors story 4. Fucked me up for a while, like pills, alcohol, want to fuckin end my life. After years of therapy and finally sobering up, I think that little voice, whatever you wanna call it stopped me over the years. I know with 100% certainty that if I had done it over, yes, I would've still opened fire. I still would have taken 2 lives that day. Better them than us. Have lived with this for over 20 years.
Edit: I just realized that today is my ETS day, again over 20 years ago. I think I'm meant to be here.
thanks for bringing back the gaming footage, it's sooo much better
Story 1: Think if you were in the place of the guys who broke in for a moment. If OP has a gun and is telling you to leave, you’d leave. Pretty much most people would agree, it’s better to get out alive than go further toward the barrel you’re staring down.
The person leaving lie any rational person would is how far most gun owners ever hope to go. But given all that, what does it say about a person’s intentions that they then keep coming toward you?
20:50
While it's not recommended, some parents do give their child a firearm in the case of an emergency, and a bolt action .22 is incredibly easy to handle, so it's not entirely unrealistic
this made me think of my favorite book, and i'm bored, so i'm gonna write an entry from the main characters perspective.
i had gone to the drive in movie theater with my friends, who we'll call texas and cupcake. texas was messing with these girls, and cupcake told him to knock it off. texas left, and the girls invited us to sit with them for the rest of the movie. afterwards, we were walking them home when their boyfriends showed up. they were aggressive and threatened to fight us then and there. their girlfriends talked them out of it and left with them, leaving me and cupcake to walk home alone. first, though, we stopped by the vacant lot in our neighborhood and talked for a bit, and eventually we fell asleep. cupcake woke me up, warning me that i had missed my curfew. he decided to stay out in the lot, seeing as his home life wasn't the greatest. when i got home, my older brothers, who we'll call pepsi and cheese, were waiting for me. cheese had guardianship of me and pepsi ever since our parents passed away. cheese and i fought a lot, and pepsi was brought into the middle of it most of the time. anyway, i went inside and cheese immediately started chewing me out for missing my curfew. pepsi tried to calm him down, to get us to talk about it in the morning, but cheese turned on him. i yelled back at cheese for yelling at pepsi, and in a fit of rage, cheese slapped me across the face. i immediately bolted out the door to get cupcake, and we wandered around for a bit, eventually ending up at a playground. remember the girls' boyfriends from earlier? well, they definitely remembered us, because they pulled up and jumped us for 'getting with their girls'. oh yeah, they were drunk, too. they started beating on cupcake, but then they decided to try and drown me in the fountain. i blacked out in the water, and later woke up on the cold pavement. when i looked up, cupcake was holding his switchblade in his hand. it was covered in blood. in front of us was one of the guys who had jumped us. cupcake had stabbed him to keep him and the other guys from drowning me. this is getting pretty long, so these next parts i'm going to shorten a lot. we hid out in an abandoned church in the country until it caught on fire with some schoolchildren trapped inside. cupcake and i managed to rescue them, but the church collapsed with cupcake inside. a few days later, cupcake passed away from his injuries.
can anyone guess what this book is?
No frigging idea
Our entire extended family have a general rule that we know to always announce ourselves when entering their homes (we all own keys to each other's homes). We are all armed. We all agree that we will not be announcing our presence to an intruder. We have castle doctrine... Don't break into my home, and we won't have problems 🤷♀️ I'm often home alone with my small children, I do not have the luxury to give an intruder an edge.
22lr is one of the smallest calibers. Alot of farm kids get taught to shoot on one at a young age. Its not ideal for a combat situation, but you use what you have. Though for a bolt action, you aren't fireing very fast. My buddy was taught to shoot on one around 8 or 9. It was then given to him to own at 16. Usally, they would start a kid on a one-shot 22lr, then eventually to bolt or semi-automatic. The recoil isn't much. One thing with the story that has me sus is the description of continuous firing cause they would have to use the bolt continuously to cycle out the empty and rack a new shot. There are some slam fire bolt action 22s, but i doubt they would have given one to a kid, all the ones i know aren't common or currently in production, but im not a gun expert.
It could possibly be an 8 year old because you can have one with parent permission usually, and it’s only a 22 which in the format of a bolt action rifle is probably one of the most harmless/safe guns out there. With virtually no recoil, single shot, and smaller bullets (that can still extremely hurt people) of all guns a smaller one would maybe be appropriate for an 8 year old who is trained and educated in the basics of gun safety. This is coming from someone who lives in the Midwest though
Story 12 is rather remarkable for an 18 year old but not impossible (I'm going to assume 8 is a typo). You are right that taking a shot at someone who is partially concealed by a friendly human is incredibly risky. I've been pretty well trained as a marksman though and part of that training is shooting over or to the side of a friendly person (on non-human targets designed to resemble that scenario). It is highly situation dependent (you make a split second risk assessment), but I could see myself in the scenario described taking the shot and hoping I don't make a mistake that sends the shot errant.
It’s 8 I learned to shoot when I was 5 so it’s pretty common down south
I haven’t, but my father, grandfather, and two brothers have in the military. Grandpops was in WWI, shot Germans, and took down one in hand to hand combat in a trench. Dad was in the Navy and no doubt killed Japanese with the big guns. There were three guys he shot in Korea. My second oldest brother was on fire watch in Vietnam. He took down a guy he found snooping around the perimeter. They said it was a civilian looking for food, but there was no way to know who was VC or some ordinary guy looking for food. He had a few more kills when walking point. My oldest brother we don’t know. Someone got him during the Tet Offensive. That’s all I know and most of it was second hand. Our men never really talked about it, only to other veterans. Talking it out wasn’t really a thing. Nobody went off the deep end or showed signs of mental illness. I believe I cope the same way with traumatic events. I was walking on Liberty St. in NY on 9-11. I put some stuff in a plastic bag, the asked myself. “What tf are you doing here?” I took shelter in my friend’s apartment on E. 82 St. I wrote up an account of that day in a notebook, put that in the bag, and the whole thing has been stored in my parents attic over the garage. I have no desire to work through it. I’m giving the stuff to my eldest nephew when I’m gone. He’s interested in history.
I could do it in self defense or defense of others.
well... I'm happy to live in the good ol' US of A right about now.
The first sentence of the first one😭😭
An 8yo can shoot a .22
It’s a real gun and can kill but the caliber is so small they’re often compared to BB guns. There won’t be nearly as much trauma to tissue as there would be for even standard 9mm pistols police use
Those of you who have been forced to do the last thing any "normal" person does not want to ever do, know the most pacifistic monk would do what was necessary to save an innocent life. Feeling bad about it means you are not a psychopath. To those thinking the unthinkable & harming yourselves, you'll never know how many people will never be hurt or worse bc those people would continue if y'all had not taken 1 for all of us. I thank you as a pacifist myself, but a pacifist until a horrible injustice were to take place. I have physically intervened in a mugging, but I was in shape at the time, & the guy was a skeleton of a junkie. I didn't have to hurt him, just hold him til the cops came, I don't know what I'd do in a life or death sitch, but as long as these stories are honest, y'all know, you did the right & possibly hardest thing a human can do. Go easy on yourselves. Peace
He meant 8, it is normal for ranchers, farmers, and anyone who hunts to teach their kids to shoot it isn't weird it is a part of life. Guns are tools nothing more. 22 rifles can be quite small and useful as opposed stated. He did not commit a crime he defended his mother as anyone should. Good for op
20:53 Yes, an 8 year old can easily handle a bolt action .22, if trained. Not just working the action, but also the recoil.
My dad gave me my first gun, which was a cricket 22 when I was about six or seven have been hunting since I was about 10
I’m from a rural area…my kids have used firearms, especially .22s since they were 6 or 7 years old. Yes, an eight year old can work a bolt.
The 8 yo with the gun. Beautiful. Saved his mom and made his dad proud. Guns are tools, learn to use tools safely and properly.
Listen in the South. It's definitely normal for an 8-year-old to have a 22 probably had a pellet gun when he was five. And dragging. He did state that it was a big man dragging yeah maybe half of the body but if he managed to sink a 22 shot into his lung, the kid was aiming high
46:40 Absolutely not true in the US. If someone breaks into your home, almost all states have a castle doctrine which allows you to use deadly force on intruders.
What you are describing only applies outside of your home.
If someone breaks into your home, it's pretty safe to assume they pose a threat to your life anyways.
The moderator questioning an eight year old handling a gun while a yearly (!) statistic exists in the US how many adults have been shot to death by toddlers...
At around 20 min in, he mentions that he hopes the OP meant 18 years old, and not 8, when reffering to the age they were taught to use a gun. It most likely was in fact 8 years old. Any responcible gun owner with kids will know the importantce of training anyone/everyone who lives in the house on firearms safety, and how to correctly and safely use a gun (because no matter how carefully you lock up the gun, everhone in the house may come into contact with the gun at some piont.
Training kids, adults, and anyone else on how to clear a gun (make it safe/make sure theres no clip/mag and that the chamber is empty), how to safely and correctly use a gun in the event of an emergency, and what to do if they find a gun out in world is incredibly important in a gun-carrying society like in the US.
A 10 year old who finds a gun and has no idea how to safely handle it, make it safe, and how it mivht fire is infinitely more dangerous than an 8 year old who knows when a gun is dangerous, how to render a gun safe, and how to fire it.
Im glad you didnt go all youtuber at the end and say "let me know in the comments what YOUR favourite self defense k*lling was!"
Normal in the country to give young kids their own 22 rifles, it’s the smallest, least powerful cartridge there is.
Which is why it’s concerning that someone later on said they have a 22 revolver for defense
Story 9, someone got hit in the back of the head and had a knife to his throat but then choked out the perp? How the hell does that happen? What a shitty story
Either a: it's fake
Or b: they can't remember the details and don't want to imagine how it was choreographed.
But it is proven someone in absolute fear for their life and in mortal danger with fight an insane amount harder than someone who isn't in the same level of fear.
There was one serial unaliver who stopped telling their victims they were going to end them because the ones he told fought back and almost while the ones he didn't did not fight because they assumed he'd just do what he wanted then leave.
20:55 yes, they make small .22 guns for children.
I saw a mosin nagant styled one at the gun store once and it was actually really cute.
They're maybe 3 feet long at most. Around the same size as a red ryder
Welp... I might have a story or two to tell about this topic as well.
As I have been to an active warzone (I will not disclose which) I can really relate to the guy defending his FOB.
My main story, however, is a bit different. It was a road rage gone bad for me. Some idiot cut me off while in a traffic jam. I honked at him, which apparently pissed him off as he started to flip me off as much as he could. I just shook my head in slight amusement (what idiot gets so worked up about being honked at when he's in the wrong? That was my thought at it), before continuing as well as I could given the extremely slow-moving traffic around us.
When the traffic cleared, I stepped back on the gas, which was fun as I was driving a rental Porsche with some nice engine power (I think it was a GT3 RS but I could be wrong, it's not relevant). It's not my style to consistently run faster than the posted speed limit as where I come from that gets you some very harsh penalties, but the other dude apparently didn't care so much about traffic rules. He sped up to me, cut me off again as he passed me and then brake-checked me harshly.
I was barely able to avoid him by swerving around the idiot in his BMW, but he caught back up to me and did it again. I finally turned off the highway at the next exit, and he cut me off again and stopped me from continuing, before drawing his sidearm and brandishing it at me. All the while screaming profanities at me that I had massive trouble understanding (the only words I could really understand were all some variation of "f*ck you"). When I did not react in the way he wanted (I have no idea what that would have been), he exited his car. As he took aim, I rolled my window down and told him I was armed as well, the police were already on their way and if he didn't put the gun away right that instant, I would be firing back at him.
Instead of a response, he gave me a bullet that barely missed me and got stuck in the co-driver seat. That was the moment at which I saw it justified to draw my own sidearm and return fire. I didn't take proper aim, but the first bullet that I fired (from a Beretta 9 millimeter handgun) apparently hit just the right spot through his throat and got lodged in his spine. He dropped like a brick. Police arrived basically that moment, only saw me connect one bullet and immediately assumed that I was the aggressor. Thankfully, the dashcam in my car had recorded audio of the entire incident, as well as the sh!t he'd pulled earlier. So I was cleared after showing my dashcam footage.
The dude d!ed defacto as a result of that first shot. Later at the hospital, they determined that at the time of the incident he was intoxicated on some nose candy (actual name starts with C, if you know what I mean). I do not feel remorse for what I did. It was either me or him. When he sh0t, my brain switched into full survival mode so the only thing I thought about was to protect myself. I feel weird about the fact that it had such a small impact on me, but other than that I do not really feel anything about it.
By the way, empathy means you can relate and understand, sympathy means you never experienced it before but can still understand. Have you taken a life before.??? Or something similar?
Other way around, bro
19:44 story 12.
.22s are very small caliber. Children can get hunter's licenses at 11.
In the Midwest it's not unusual for children to have youth rifles to learn gun discipline, target practice, and for varmint clearing.
8 is a little young but no where near clutch-your-pearls young depending on the kid.
As for the amount of coverage mom would cover his legs. If he was dragging her away with drunk-swagger then he did it cave man style, she might have covered one leg.
The little girl did right.
The family prepared her well.
20 mins in and yes an eight year old is not unlikely. also yes 22lr (the round he probably used) has very little recoil like a tap on the shoulder compared to the punch most people think when they hear about gun recoil. theirs a program called 4-h in most states you need to be 8 to enter, well some states have shooting sports and 22rifle is one of the options. i have seen several 8-10 year old shoot incredible well like 1cm spread at 50yards, better at 25 so i dont think its unlikely
"Ask why you did it"
I dunno man, maybe because you threatened my family?
20:59 I used to shoot guns at eight, actually. It might be because I grew up on multiple military bases and that both my parents were Marines, but I was taught gun safety from a very young age and how to properly aim as well. So for me, having a gun and such at that age isn't too wild to me. So long as he was taught proper gun safety by his parents like I was, then he should be good despite his young should, if he actually meant eight and not eighteen.
Children can own long rifles but you have to be an adult to own a handgun
I never take one sode of the story fully. Aome of these stories seem warranted, but remember that os yheir sode of the story. Ive seen people try to kill people when people were already down, ... Because they wanted to and felt they were justified.
I like how you didnt have game background for this more serious topic
Edit: nevermind
Skip to 2:30 😉😂 spoke too soon lol
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“Big ranked private college” “Worst part of socal” yeah that’s ucla
maybe USC cuz i've heard its part of the hoods or smth and UCLA is a public school
An 8 year old could absolutely handle a 22 bolt action. 22 caliber is tiny, so the things that shoot that caliber don't have to have a lot too them as a consequence. You can find a bolt action 22 with heft, I'm sure, but a manufacturer would have to go out of their way to add weight to it. If anything, if weight _was_ added, it would be for balance and not in the parts of the firearm that the kid would have to pull back on to load and operate.
Is it weird I am writhing notes for my book.
23:10 is responsible for an unsolved murder if you think about it
If he was dragging her by long hair she will mostly be on the ground
In story 32 sounds like the op probably broke there trachea
21.20 story seems to check out. .22 caliber rifles are not very tough rifles. They wouldnt take much to handle. And in rural areas, banditos, wild animals that requires a self defense training with guns. Yeah, even with 8 years olds. Her mother being dragged by the hair might have been that her mother was on the ground and dragged by the hair. While the guy was upright position. Yes, just like those comicbook cavemen style.
I had to stop listening, my anxiety was through the roof
Story 12: a .22 bolt action rifle is a pretty light gun, I live in Texas and it's common to get a pellet gun or a .22 for a 7th or 8th birthday
That must have been a harrowing experience
Op is that guy! God bless
Dawrwin Awards for several...
Fr this might have to be on a tv show or something cuz GEEZ the robbers were stupid I mean if your gonna rob be god dam smart about it not hey let me move toward this man who does not sound like a child in a place where you can have guns and just said “ LEAVE IM ARMED”
Whats this with unalive? Cant we just keep the old words? You kill somebody, you dont make him or her unalive.
stupid is as stupid does, sparked.
20:58 A .22-cal is very low-recoil. And with it being a rifle, the recoil will be even less felt. It'd be a bit more than shooting a BB-pistol, from personal shooting experiences. Will be a lot louder, of course, and far deadlier. But not that much recoil. And if he's had practice with it? Still not much.
Now, could it be possible he forgot the 1 for 18? Yes. But also depending on where he lived... And what year/decade it was... I would not be surprised to see/hear of an eight year old with a rifle.
The biggest thing of importance always comes down to upbringing, and how someone is raised in respect to guns. They are a tool. An equalizer. They deserve respect, awe, and fear. But you must not forget the most important thing: They are but a tool, in the hands of a user. And the user is the one who takes actions with tools.
I was shooting a 22.lr at five. The recoil is nothing
21:26 he is not a Californian hes a southern boy that grew up right. I wasn’t around guns a lot whenever I was younger but by the time I was eight years old, I could handle a bolt 370, and killed my first year with the lever action 3030 at the age of eight, so I am sure that he was able to do this and it is not an unusual thing
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There’s a couple stories here that don’t really sound realistic. Fighting multiple attackers is way tougher than people think, and a thigh wound is very dangerous - more so than a gut wound. That said, the human body is both remarkably resilient and incredibly fragile at the same time
the first story starts kinda interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
What game is that in the background?