Friend of mine kill3d a guy who tried to assault her. Dude messed with the wrong lady. She punched him once. Only once. Hard enough that he didn't make it. Guess that's what happens when you try to attack a trained fighter. Haven't talked to her in years but she never felt bad even for a second. All she ever said about it was "that bastard won't hurt anyone anymore and for that i am proud." That girl was an absolute legend, spent a lot of time helping other assault and abuse survivors, including offering protection when they went to court against their abusers.
Doesn't even have to be a trained fighter for a single punch to end you. Humans are pretty durable, but silly and random things take us out all the time. People die from single punches to the head distressingly often.
@@adenkyramud5005 Yeah, but repeated head traumas like that have led to family massacres. Horrifying stuff, TBI. It's not common that it goes that far, but personality changes less drastic than that can happen too. Friend of mine was worried she'd never be herself again.
I have no problem with someone ending a life in self-defense. In many of these stories the writers WARNED the attackers and they still approached. The attacker caused his end, not the writers.
I have a problem with the guy saying "if we were in Texas the story would be over already" because he sounds like someone who is happy to have had the opportunity to kill someone, rather than someone who had to do it. Other than that I agree, when someone shoots your accomplice and your first reaction is to move towards them... there's no way to fix that kind of Stupidly Dangerous. I feel bad for the guy really struggling with what he had to do, I hope he gets better.
@@TheOmegaXicor I'm not going to say that I'm wishing a MFer would, but I do agree with the sentiment I picked up from that story. If someone comes at me or mine, they're not going to last long. God forbid I have to take a life, it WILL mess me up, but in that moment there will be zero hesitation. Absolutely no hesitation to take the life of someone wishing to harm my family, only some if they're coming at me and me alone. I can handle the pain, but I can't handle my family being in pain. Seeing them hurt makes me hurt so much more than being hurt myself. So I get the sentiment in the end. I'm sure after a bit I'll stop feeling any remorse for what I had to do, and start feeling angry that the world produced people who either had to be criminals, or wanted to be criminals. Because we should live in a world where nobody is hungry, nobody is at the mercy of the elements, and nobody needs to fear what the next day brings, but we don't. Thousands of years of work, evolution, and society, yet we STILL don't live in that world. That's the real crime of it all.
@ThatNiceNice you have no way of proving that while yes reddit is full of people spinning yarns or heavily stretching truths but alot of stories end up having some grain of truth
to be fair "dragging away by her hair" gave me the image of a woman on the ground and a man bent over dragging. that would make the woman less of a human shield.
8 year old having a .22 cal rifle used to be very common, I know lots of people that started shooting .22’s at 4-5 years old. They are also very accurate.
@@3days_left .22s don't have much in the way of recoil, which makes them perfect for training, especially kiddos. Because they don't have heavy recoil they're actually quite accurate and very common for country folk to use as Vermin Vanquishers, particularly in defense of a garden / livestock. My Dad used one when he was about 7-8.
I think the scariest part of the first story was that the intruders obviously didn't give a shit that the family was home or that the police were coming. They were there to hurt them.
These stories reinforce why it is essential that American's have the 2nd Amendment this is why I always keep a firearm with me at all times. There are evil people out there that do not care about you, your loved ones and we need to do whatever it takes to keep ourselves and loved ones safe.
I always wonder whats going on in their heads. Might be nothing but them just rushing a random family with no thoughts and risking their own deaths for something stupid like that. I want to think people do this with some kind of goal, but maybe there are people who are just pure monsters
Given that one of the intruders had duct tape, they /planned/ for the family to be home. The whole thing sounds targeted. A couple of lowlifes looking for a quick, easy score aren't going to spend all that time and effort getting through a serious security door. They're going to have one or two goes at it then move on to a place with flimsier defenses.
You'd be surprised. In some states, young kids are allowed to have guns as long as they have adult supervision. There are even "child-sized" versions of things like .22 Rifles, for teaching kids hunting and stuff. Which is probably what the 8 y/o in the story was using.
Yes I was allowed to carry long guns since I was 12. Never hurt anyone. Close call in college tho, when guy smashed our door in. He came down hallway, rounded the corner, and found me waiting with loaded 12 gauge. He had no weapon, and
It’s a pretty prominent thing here in the south. Most kids around here get their first BB gun around kindergarten/first grade, and they just go on from there. But also, gun safety is drilled into kids heads around here as hunting is pretty prominent as well.
I remember from like Kindergarten and up there were gun safety courses in school run by cops and game wardens, think DARE week but for guns and at the end if we had permission we were allowed to fire guns. They had like a mini gun range set up in the gym for us.
That was my thought, I would have never been able to stop resenting my partner for that. In my eyes if you're home with a small child, you need to be present. What if she had a health episode or other emergencies where she was incapacitated? You don't need noise cancelling headphones at home, you just don't.
The kid was definitely eight and not eighteen. A .22 is a very small caliber no matter what the mechanism is, and a lot of children are taught how to keep themselves safe in case of emergencies, or how to hunt. Adrenaline will stop a person from thinking clearly, so while it's not exactly a miracle the kid didn't hit their mom, it's not good to fire in those circumstances to begin with. Shitty scenario all around.
@@3days_left It's not hard to teach someone to point an object and pull a trigger. With enough experience, a lot of the flinch goes away, too. It takes a long time and a lot of drilling to get adrenaline shakes under control, though.
narrator must be from Seattle. kids can learn to be responsible for super crazy things. I think it might be the fact grown adults all over can't even figure out their 6 liter a day soda pop habit caused their foot to fall off. kids in the south from centuries ago responsibly used guns and operated dangerous farm machinery and were incredibly competent. I'm not saying it's the best upbringing to be a full time worker aa young child, just that a lot of people act like centuries later kids are still devoid of responsibility.
100% I mean even if you are sick you can leave your home, you still need to buy food or something like this. My boss has no business in what i do if i called in sick. Except i randomly sees me at a party or something, but even that is okay if i hurt my arm or whatever.
Honestly it makes sense. Especially if they had a problem of people constantly lying about being sick. Which a lot more people than you think actually do.
I was pissed off about the guy who killed the man who was molesting his girlfriend and went to jail for a YEAR. Since when is defending an innocent person a crime?
Because he wasn't in the middle of doing the act, its not legally defense of other. It was honestly generous that the courts didn't make it premeditated murder seeing as he bought a gun illegally. Unless that was another story. Hard to remember all the details
@xanithdegroot5407 if your first reaction to hearing of your significant others assault is to commit a felony it's iffy. That's a lifestyle choice to be a felon. Then his second choice was to also commit a felony by threatening a legally innocent man. His decision making MIGHT be the reason he wasn't allowed to buy a gun in the first place. He should be ecstatic to have just 1 year.
@@jackskudlarek3138 yeah. That's why I said it was generous that it was just manslaughter. He should have been charged with first degree murder and illegal possession of an unregistered firearm.
@@xanithdegroot5407Yea, outside of a ground serial number, there was nothing "illegal" about buying a gun from some guy at a car meet. Completely legal sale. Till he mentioned a goind serial number lol
Depends where and when it occurred. Like 10 years ago all of these would be valid self defense but in modern time they would likely try to go after a few of them. Can't really speak for the states or other countries but here in Canada they basically want you to be in the middle of being assaulted before its self defense, and even then if you kill or severely injure the attacker they'll still at least try to go after you even if it won't hold up in court.
@@greenagoo A charge alone can really ruin someone's life for a few years. There's the financial pressure of lawyer fees and bail, jail if you can't pay, and community stigma regardless. Just because there's no conviction doesn't mean the prosecution is harmless.
@@blackosprey2219 I'm saying, they will almost never try to prosecute stuff like this because they know it's highly likely they won't get the win. They only care about convictions. They don't care about that other shit
With the quote "execution" not defense story. I wouldve done the exact same if not worse. That man lost his right as a human being in that moment and deserved nothing less. I hope he, his wife and his daughter are all doing ok!
I absolutely agree. The detective should be thankful that no tax money need to be wasted on that guy and that there is a 100% guarantee he will not reoffend. Giving someone crap for defending their family from serious assaults is one of the worst things someone can do to a person.
I haven’t killed anyone, but due to my own SA as a 5 year old and my mother having been nearly kidnapped and her teaching me get back home, no matter what, and us being women of color, I know I would if I had to. I started martial arts in my late 20s, my daughter in her early teens. She is 21 and is now this very moment working on her 3rd black belt. We are tiny women, standing 5’1 and we joke with the neighbors we are tiniest and most dangerous women in the block. I’ve only had to defend myself once against a stranger and once against my daughter’s father years before she was born, in the 30 years of taking martial arts. A guy grabbed me and unzipped my jacket at a club (I was nude underneath). I put him on the floor, foot on neck, arm twisted near breaking. Her father got pummeled in the face, black eye, busted lip, before police pulled up, (he was trying to stop me leaving his apartment when I broke up with him, we did get married, divorced but he never put hands on me ever again …still won’t step within arms length of me now). But I know if I had to defend my daughter or anyone I loved, I would unalive someone without hesitation.
Viet Nam combat vet here and yes I and the unit I commanded took lives. It has never bothered me much given the circumstances and it was us or them. What will really screw someone up is when they start to enjoy it. That is really bad and the Mark of Cain. I had to watch for that with my platoon and had to remind them that while we had a mission which involved killing the enemy it was never a good thing to take a life even if it is our enemy's. Most of the guy could keep that balance but I have seen a few who have gone over the edge that way.
Thankyou for your service. My grandfather was in Nam and hes mind is still there. Its really sad bec everyone thinks hes weird. He just never came home mentally. ❤ Im sorry for what the Military put you through, and i hope you have a good support system now. Take care hon!
To clarify about the story with the 8 year old. Yes. A 22 caliber rifle is basically one of the weak, starter type firearms you might see kids use at the range. They're small, lightweight, relatively quiet, have barely any kick, and are mainly meant for small game & target practice.
I hope there won’t be a single comment stupidly saying ‘just let them rob you, a life isn’t worth your stuff’ but if there is, remember they could decide your life is worth more than your stuff. The narrator said it themselves, 5 stories in and 2 of them were stories of people that were more interested in hurting you than saving their own lives. You are your own first responder, the professionals are minutes away when seconds may matter. Lest be judged
@@NoodleDergsGoBrrr Reddit is more likely that kind of place. I remember someone got into his high horse and sermon about how you're a monster if you kill someone even if it's for self defense.
Remember, I didn't decide your life was worth less than my stuff, YOU decided your life was worth less than my stuff when you broke into my home to steal it
46:52 "my socially conscious self doesn't love how O.P. talked about specifically quote unquote black leadership in this post". He described what they did and said and how they twisted the facts and ruined his life just to advance their own influence and wealth. This is unfortunately somewhat common for many individuals and organizations that are (self-appointed) voices for various causes and groups. Any "socially conscious self" should be as upset about such abuse of power as the O.P. was, as even he correctly pointed out that such behavior harms, not helps, the movements they're claiming to stand for.
I like undersparked but this was kinda a iffy thing that he said like it’s not like it was white leaders or Asian leaders or any other race and it was specifically THEM who harassed op and tried to send him to jail why can’t you call “black leaders” I guess African American leaders would sound more “socially acceptable” but they are one and the same and no I’m not racist I’m just saying op had every right to speck his story and mention and single out the “black leaders” because it’s true they did it he can talk about it
@user-es2vf4qn3h "African American" is no longer really considered socially acceptable, as it often comes off as patronizing. And a lot of Americans apparently don't understand that not every black person in the world is African American. There's nothing wrong with using the word "black."
I have no problem with the 'black leadership' bias in that story. there was a similar story ON. TAPE. for everyone to see.only in this case it was the police who were on the receiving end of this phony martyrdom. NYC, and while it was probably on all the major networks a few months back, the one I saw was on ABC. Mentally off possibly drugged up whacked out male screaming and threatening whom I think was his grandmother in a small kitchen. She was on the floor, not more than a foot away from the freaking knife wielding crazy, screaming for her life; there was no where she could back away to as everything was blocked. The police must have yelled at this guy for several minutes before the final send off. The next day, all the 'black leadership' with their basset hound expressions were out decrying the fact the police had shot a black guy. Not ONE word about that woman. NOT ONE FREAKING WORD. The story went nowhere; the media did not harp on it, the 'leaders' race pot stirring did not bring any followers out.. that was the end of it. However, I guarantee, at the end of the day after multiple stories like this, they are going to make more enemies than they started out with.
@@SkyFyre2435 I am 71. they have changed this several times. each one acceptable and the previous one ejected. I don't care anymore as I am tired of it.
Something like this happened to me. It's not much of a story. My dad was a marine and taught us girls basic self-defense. When I was 13, I was walking home from school in the evening after a club activity. A man attacked me. I don't really remember the rest. The next thing I remember is getting home, and my dad was on his way out the door to find me, cause he "had a feeling. " He asked me if I was hurt and what happened. I told him I wasn't, and everything that I remembered. He said to go take a shower and put my clothes in the trash and not tell anyone. Then he left the house. When I got in the bathroom, I realized that I was covered in blood spray. I did what he said, and he came back about 2 hours later and reminded me that we were never going to talk about it again. For years, I didn't. This happened when we were living overseas. It was not a good area. I always wanted to ask him where he went, but he died, and I never had the chance. I don't know if I did unalive someone or not. No one ever talked to me about it if I did.
Damn. That sounds kinda traumatising to not only know what your dad did, but what happened to you. I personally would need to know (even if it wasn't savoury), but I have no doubt that your father was acting on your best interests, so if you don't need to know, I genuinely hope you can rest easy knowing you have a loving parent who potentially put themselves out there for you.
@@heatheranne9305 that fact that he was a marine tells me that whatever problem might have existed when he told you that didn't exist anymore by the time he got home. Got to know a few marines, there are no other people I'd trust more in bad situations than these lot. God bless the USMC.
8 is a common age for firearms training in rural areas. a 22 has no real power so it was a trick shot that he hit with lethal force. 22 bolt actions are called children's guns, used to be boy's guns but I had one as a child myself. 28 gauge shotguns are also low powered first guns.
To be fair, the only time I ever saw someone refer to .22 as 'less than lethal' unironically was part of the ZIP .22 advertisements, and it was only accurate in that case because getting a ZIP to fire is a nigh-on miracle.
It was defenitly no trick shot to land a fatal shot, a hit in the lung, heart, head it as deadly with a .22 then with a bigger calibre. Yeah a shot in everything else then the head/neck or heart would take a while but still deadly in a vital area, a .22 is no joke and allot of people die by .22 bullets. Not the best calibre for self defence because the stopping power is not really good, but it works. Nontheless is it a good gun for children to train.
The very fact you don’t like his comments about black leadership getting behind obviously and undesirable undeserving coward is exactly why he used those words. I support OP 100%.
You mention your level of empathy, and even being soft, but honestly thats what I like most about this channel. I can trust y'all to listen and care, and consider the human aspect of things. Helps me feel comfortable and relax, and just listen to the stories
Story 4 vet, technically, yeah, you killed him, but to be fair, with a bomb that big in the van, that guy was taking a one-way trip either way even if you didn't pull the trigger on him.
To OP who is feeling messed up by what happened, what you had to do, I’m glad you’re still around and if it helps any, I would give you a hug for as long as you need.
I don't think I would be bothered by the deaths in most of these situations, maybe the trauma of going through said event but not for the deaths. A lot of them sound like they were dangerous people who gave up their right to life by endangering and even hurting others for pleasure or greed.
To reinforce the fact the guy who isn’t handling it well is not being weak or whatever, police officers usually to go see a psychiatrist after shooting someone because of how traumatic it is considered. Killing someone is hard to do in actuality and it can mess people up severely for the rest of their lives.
100% the reason I hate how all headphones have to be noise cancelling. It's nearly impossible to find good headphones that aren't. I have been attacked several times and got away because I could hear someone approaching which gave me a split second to really react and get away. Why does everything have to be noise cancelling??! WHY!?
Only reason I feel confident walking late out night in.my headphones is because of my (very protective, but elderly) cattle dog. At night, I'm her eyes and she's my ears. Plus I know how to handle myself, my main concern is rando drunk people trying to atognoise her into full protection mode. Cattle dogs are smart and loyal as fuck, but fairly enough still think they're all still on farms, so anything approaching us on very very long daily walk/run is a threat and must be backed away. I rescued her when she was young from bad situation (wanted too badly to please the owner instead of doing her job) so in return I got the most protective, needy, abandonment issued, super smart, wonderful cuddle bug instead xx
Yeah my uncle is the same. Only goes jogging with his dog by his side because he has been attacked in broad daylight. They try to antagonise his dog too
@@Aesos3429 Yeah…? I know those things are there, but hey I’m tolerating now pretty fine. I’m a little confused as to when I insinuated I wanted to “decide” what kind of 90’s I wanted to live in. But ey, it’s a little mistranslation, no worries.
The one about the babysitter trying to assault OP stuck with me over all the others, she viewed him as a brother and enjoyed hanging out with him, it just sucks that situation happened and ended the way it did
as I live in a rather peaceful country I never had to kill to self defend, but I did in one time find myself, being an EMT, in a situation where I needed to hit a woman twice my weight, drunk and having psychiatric condition in the head to stop her from hitting me. (yes, same story in a different video where we listed her as a "danger list" for my fire brigade)
I thought I could try to handle this. I was half mistaken. This is dark, and I think it is time I lay off on these stories. Remember, your mental health is important. And I feel bad for those who suffer from mental issues, but remember, you are loved, and nothing can change that. You are in a bad situation, but you can always recover from it. Have a great day.
The term you're looking at for "dragging" is carrying. The true dragging in the person or often too heavy for you to lift, you pull them against the ground. The dragged victim's head would barely be over your waist. So the person's back is full of targets that would miss her as long as he's careful to aim only over the waist.
On the topic of story 9, I don't think people truly understand how terrifying being choked or choking someone can be unless it's happened to them. I have a friend who is a professional fighter in my class at uni. We were hanging out in my dorm, and he was talking about chokeholds. I do karate and told him that I've never properly been choked before, as we do semi-contact at karate. I let him do one on me so i could experience what it's like. As a disclaimer, don’t do this yourselves. He's been training for years, so not only can he do it safely, but efficiently. As in "Knocked out within 10 seconds" efficiently. As soon as he put the pressure on, I panicked, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen. 3 seconds, no more than that. I have not felt so panicked in years and I could feel it for the next hour. Tldr: Choking induces panic like you would not believe, so don’t choke people.
My 8 year old can rack a slide and charge an ar15. That being said, no way in hell id give him a firearm to keep. At that age they are old enough to handle them safely and know not to shoot someone, but the maturity level is not there. That's taking a huge unnecessary risk.
I wanna say at 12 we knew where the hand gun was and the ammo that being said I did not own a gun but knew how to safely use it. (My cousin had dated a druggy and he kept coming over after she moved to try and get her. I've had to call the cops a few times for him trying to break in and im home alone with my siblings
Story 27 is annoying they need to take accountability for their fellow ppl do stop pulling the race shi!! It’s his fault for breaking in you get what you pay for… oh well maybe it will help ppl think twice before they do something stupid!!! I’m sure his mother had an idea too they are not stupid they ignore their kid’s actions until they loose them 🤦🏽♀️
Related note: I feel like the Agency of the perpetrator is often… ignored(?) sometimes in cases like this. I feel like that happens for different reasons a lot of times, but it ends up giving me a bad taste in my mouth. Like, yeah they did (insert crime) and maybe loss of life could have been prevented, but They made a conscious decision. Does that make sense? Idk if i described it very well but it’s something that’s lowkey bothered me for a while now.
A person being dragged by the hair can be on the ground, not always stumbling after their attacker. And in some parts of the States, people do actually let kids that young have guns
If mom was being dragged she was more than likely lower than the attacker and eight year olds are taught to use guns especially where I live in the country…lots of kids learn to hunt around that age
I hope I'm never in a situation like any of these, but I think I would lean toward no regrets. It might take me a bit to come to terms with the reality of the situation and outcomes, but ultimately, I will choose my life.
The "noise cancelling headphones" one is actually why I always have one ear cup behind my ear and a weapon nearby at all times when I'm home alone, especially considering I live in a pretty dodgy neighborhood
Story 12 19:43 8 Years is correct here. This is in a rural area in the US. If you live there, its likely you own guns. If you own guns, you better teach your children gun safely as soon as they can walk. A 22 bolt action is a rifle that shoots 0.22 inch diameter (about 5mm) bullets. If you can hold the rifle, you can deal with the recoil. It is just one step above an air gun. It is still a lethal weapon, and the trusts these parent have in their child is immense. But the fact that the child hit 3 of 5 shots tells that the child had lots of firearm training before. I am not sure whether or not I would let a child this young have access to a firearm and munition, but in this situation it was a good thing they had. Safety rules change, if you live so far away from others that you can not call for help.
21:50 Sparky boy, you clearly do not come from the country or old-school traditional American family. Most boys gets his (Red Ryder .17, BB, .22) at a single-digit age. All my children will be taught to shoot at a very young age. Families vary, but it is common to teach boys (especially) to shoot pretty much as soon as they can hold the gun and have shown themselves to be ready to become a big boy. It is imperative for children to understand 1) guns are not toys 2) they need to learn to operate them safely and effectively.
Story 12. He could have been 8. I know friends of mine were given .22 rifles at very young ages to plink in their yard. Usually this is out in the country, where guns are much more a part of your upbringing. I was 10 when my uncle first gave me a .22 to shoot.
The kid with the 22: I have no doubt that the kid was 8 years old. In most families that have multiple firearms the young are commonly taught gun safety at an early age so that curiosity will not be a factor when weapons are involved.
Story 30, the guy who's having a rough time: This is PTSD. Some people get PTSD and some people don't; there's an element of luck of the draw to it. There's no shame in having PTSD, and it's not somehow less valid if you're not a soldier. I have PTSD - not from doing anyone violence, but from some bad times in my own life - and gosh, OP, I feel for you. I've been there. All I can say is that it does get better, and please, talk to a therapist about it. It took me four years to move toward 'okay-ish', but I'm ten years out from my darkest times and life is worth living. Having a professional help with all those nightmares and intrusive thoughts would have made the healing so much easier, and I hope you're able to access one.
That's a great point to bring up in story 12, how insenuating feelings in people that they aren't having can make them feel like theres something wrong with them. Whether that story was true or not, I think that's a good thing to remember.
I'm sure others have already posted this, but a .22 is a really small caliber. In fact, if you don't get your shots right, it is very easy for someone to survive. Also, a .22 has almost no recoil so it is perfect for anyone who is young to learn how to shoot. So, it is very likely the guy was 8 years old in that story.
Your commentary at the end of story 11 is a big part of why I personally try to condition myself as a concealed carrier. I'm not wanting to harm someone but I have to drill myself on the knowledge that some people may want to harm me and will possibly force my hand one day. I think that mental conditioning allows it to be easier to cope with because it creates a rational disconnect from the situation by which one can tell themselves that their attacker is to blame for their untimely demise.
Q: Why would robbers continue to move TOWARD an intended victim who declared that he was armed? A: They were high on aggression-promoting drugs like cocaine or methamphetamine.
Or they're just like that. My cousin is a pseudomasachist and a psychopath, so whether you hurt him or he hurts you, he likes it. He's a druggy too, but that doesn't have anything to do with the foundational personality.
TBH, doesn't even need the drugs for it. Getting within 6ft of a person can drastically cause issues with maneuvering a handgun (see all those officer bodycams where someone's armed with a melee weapon and is able to pressure the cops by continuing to walk forward as the cops demand them to drop it/keep backing up, that's part of the training.) All it takes is someone with more bravado than self-preservation to think 'yeah I can cross the distance and get it off them.' Sometimes they can be correct, and other times, well, see the video.
Its sad some peoples self-preservation is so low they would just run into someone with a gun. im not sorry for them as they chose the path of murder, but them not valuing the only life theyll get
As a person living in a red state in the midwest, I'm inclined to believe the 8-year-old story. It's definitely not a norm to have a gun under your sole custody that young, but I knew how to use one by that age. Cub scout camps almost always have .22 riflery under close supervision. Boy scouts (age 12 and up) frequently had shotguns and clay pigeons.
I’m one who likes to believe that no one deserves to die but the way people just blindly ignore warnings several times just shows they really don’t value their lives as much as they should
Yeah wow, one of my mom's friends was stabbed 13 or something times protecting a girl at a party, I think the attacker was shot or stabbed can remember tho. The guy that was stabbed 13 times lived tho.
20:54 No, he meant Eight in rural areas kids are taught how to hunt small game such as rabbits for food and it's common in scouting to teach kids to use a rifle
I mean, all they wanted him to do was announce his presence first, giving the guy all the time in the world to either kill his wife or take her hostage. Leave it to these idiots to care more about the man doing this to a woman while also saying he is going to do it to her daughter next. Crazy how backwards society is. I guess the husband should have offered the guy a Gatorade and a cigarette, he might be parched after the entire event.
21:07 in the south of the US at least, it's common for kids to handle guns. my dad taught me gun safety around 5 since we had them in the house and got me my own child-sized gun a few years later so i could go to the range with him
Ya the age didn't even faze me. I live in Texas, my nephews were given rifles with locks at 6 and a BB gun at 3. I don't personally approve but they aren't my kids and it's not uncommon.
Not to brag but my uncle (after abt a year of teaching me gun safety and what not) let me shoot his 50cal sniper that I had taken an interest in looking at/cleaning from time to time. I was 7 when I finally got to shoot it, braced by my uncle so I didn’t fly 15 feet in the opposite direction
8 Year olds with guns. In the mid-1980s as an 8 year old Pennsylvania farm boy living at the base of a mountain covered in trees, creeks, and small ponds that my family owned a chunk of all the way to the top, along with knowing all the neighbors. I was carrying a .22mag Ruger Single-Six OR a .22lr Ruger Mark-II w/(snake/bird shot) OR a .410 bolt action shotgun, whenever I wandered beyond the back yard of my Great-Aunts house which was almost everyday... Rattle snakes, Copperheads, Coyotes, Bobcats, Bears, Feral dogs... "Keep your eyes and ears open. Avoid danger when you can. If you can't scare it away, Put it/them down before it/them puts you down." Now-days My EDC is 9mm compact, with a Judge w/(defense loads) in the nightstand for 3am bedroom doorway situations and a gun-safe next to the dresser & wardrobe. I've been 'Attempted' Mugged/Carjacked 2 times, both dropped the weapons and ran when I drew.
A relative, who is long dead, fought in a war, I think it was the Mexican Revolution. He told my dad that he has no idea if he every killed anyone. My grandpa on my mom’s side almost killed a guy who was following my mom and her friend (both were in their teens), guy left as soon as he saw my grandpa with the rifle, that was definitely a close call. I come from a Mexican family so I imagine there have been stories of having to kill in self-defense from the older generation due to war, thankfully I have no experienced that.
Story 27 reminds me a lot of a similar type of situation that happened in my country (was a few years ago, so i dont remember the exact details) It was about a group of native American teens who snuck onto the farm of a man and were trying to steal things from him, and the man came out, warned them to leave, and when they didn't he shot at and killed I think both of them? Either way, the media made a big deal about it and the whole native American community painted it as a hate crime despite the fact that the teens were trespassing and threatened the guy. Basically made his life hell for years after
You'd be surprised how many little kids can use guns lol- I live in Vermont where you don't need a license for concealed carry and I know 10 year olds that own guns and kids who learn to shoot with their parents even earlier because of hunting. I don't doubt that op could have at least landed a couple shots on that guy at 8
As for the 8 year old, that's actually fairly common in more rural areas. A .22lr has basically no kick so it's good for learning discipline. Knowing how to use a rifle is important in rural areas for hunting and fending off wild animals, it's not surprising, to me at least, that an 8 year old would be taught how to properly use and store a firearm
1) Yes, 8 year olds can be taught to use a rifle. It seems a bit young to me, but it paid off in this instance. 2) His mom was being drug, *not* carried. She's on the ground, while the guy was (at most) bent over her. Given the circumstances, probably not even bent over.
Im assuming the story with the 8yo OP was, in fact, an 8yo OP. Its not unusual for young children to be taught by their parents how to shoot and handle guns, especially something like a .22; usually for hunting, but also to teach proper gun safety.
OP's story of using a .22 bolt action, I could see it. a .22 is pretty easy to handle and has very little recoil. Esp if OP was living somewhere like a farm or other rural area where police response would be delayed. it could very easily of been done
That is how a real life is ruined, when you defend yourself against someone with A WEAPON but because of y’all’s skin color, YOU’RE labeled a racist and the attacker while everyone forgets about the facts that the person entered someone else’s place of work or home looking to cause harm upon you or anyone who gets in their way……🙄
...... my son, 7, owns a .22 rifle and knows how to use it. Training kids with safe gun practices and respect towards weapons drastically reduces the chances he'll accidentally hurt himself or others. It's super common where I live, and honestly, im glad that boy saved his mum.
Also dear narrator, you can't say you sympathize then condem with your next words. If you've never been in a situation you don't get to judge if it's OK or not. Till you are faced with death at the hands of our fellow man you'll never understand, and it shows unfortunately.
As regards the 8 year old, the rifle he described is a .22, which is a very small round, sufficient for small game, like squirrels, ground hogs, and the like... but will not humanely kill anything much bigger, not reliably anyhow. When he says bolt action, he's describing the way the firearm operates, with a manually-operated bolt (the part that holds the round in the chamber), which must be pushed up to unlock it, pulled to the rear to eject the last spent shell casing, pushed back forward to load a new round from the magazine into the chamber, then re-locked by pushing it down. There's no springs to fight in this whole process, so no issues of a child's upper body strength. It's a very simple manual of arms, and on a .22, well within the capabilities of an 8 year old. I learned firearms at about the same age on similar rifles, as a rural latch-key kid back in the 90s. Having the open access to it like that, rather than it being locked in a safe or something, is a bit unusual, but the fact that the kid was proficient in its use does not strike me as odd.
21:24 brother, you're probably not real big into gun culture. But the way it works varies from kid to kid. Maturity of the kid is assessed and given a gun when the kids deemed ready. Might be 8. Might be 13. I had my first bolt action at 5. 8 is very realistic. And the drag was probably happening by the collar.
Regarding the guy that was dragging his mom away, she could have been on the ground and he might have been dragging her by her hair or by her arm and she more than likely was not standing up. Also in rural areas, kids are taught very young how to handle guns. 8 years old with a .22 is not that uncommon. Kids around here drive to school with rifles hanging in the back window on a rack. Especially during hunting season.
Oh my god.. Story 8 is just downright horrifying, like physically make-you-sick-to-your-stomach and burst-out-in-tears kind of horrifying. If I were ever in that situation, I don’t think I could be nearly as merciful as the husband was. I am so, so sorry for anyone who has ever had or gone through an experience like this. It is never and never was your fault, no matter what you said, wore, or anything else. Please know that continuing to live your life is one of the biggest middle fingers you can give to these scumbags, and that you deserve to be happy. Edit: If I have triggered anyone, please let me know and I will take this comment down. Thank you.
I dont judge anyone in any of these stories. I do feel bad doe those who are having trouble coping with the after effects and fervently hope they seek the help they need. Self forgiveness is often the hardest thing to do.
My kids got their first .22 when they were 5. Little bolt action crickets. I’ve tight them proper weapons handling, maintenance and safety. Never had any issues
26:56 this one really hit home for me because i’ve always lived very fortunate, not rich, but not poor either, and i never realized how fortunate i was until a “friend” of mine took advantage of me in high school. i also think that it’s really sad that for this girl, she kept quiet as possible before they started threatening sexual assault. it truly is a scary thing, and people always wonder why we’d rather choose bear. this is why.
My brother got hus first gun from my parents when he was 10. It was a 30-30 winchester lever action. And my grandfather thought he should have gotten it younger.
I haven't killed anyone in self defense, but I did kill someone's social life in self defense. there was some kid I was friends with who would just invite people over to his house so he could bully them. eventually all of us decided to stop hanging out with him. this was in late elementary school and early middle school, and we ended up getting to see him go through high school with no social life, no friends, always looked depressed, and seemingly did nothing with his life after high school. he graduated a couple years ago, and as far as I know he still lives with his parents, never leaves the house, doesn't have a job, and still has no friends, but then again I haven't heard shit about him in years
I imagine the mom being on the ground as he said she was being dragged by her hair...in the backwoods, more common than you think, to teach a child to handle a gun.
Jeez, the fact that not only the people on drugs or out for targeted revenge still approached when the OP announced they were armed, but the ones who were just there to rob the house did too is super dumb... obviously I wouldn't be robbing someone but in that position, I'm running with whatever I already have in my hands, if nothing else to live to cash out another day. Also, I have ANC earbuds and basically never use any mode except for pass-through... paid for the ANC and don't like using it. No headset at home, just speakers and a mic. It's always just felt right (honestly just more polite so I don't accidentally ignore someone trying to talk to me), and I'm sure glad I do now lol
21:02 if your raised right like I was I got my first gun at 7. It was a 22 and I got BB guns before that. It’s all about learning and demonstrating gun safety, once i demonstrated good gun safety for a long time my parents got me a 22 and progressed from there. So a kid can easily handle a gun but it’s all about being trained to handle a gun properly. And being able to demonstrate that safety in different circumstances
A smart criminal who's just trying to feed their family or something will back down the instant they realize someone is home. These were not smart criminals. I know it's hard, but I hope the sensitive ones are able to put aside what they had to do. Better you survive than a person so crazy and willing to harm others.
ive ended up having to skip every time i hear the "downstairs i heard my wife screaming" that one triggers me so much as someone who was s/aed (though not.. like violent or anything) its just so scary and im so glad the husband was able to help her as much as he could
Kids CAN be taught to safely handle a rifle I was left home alone with a loaded rifle for protection from 9 up. I learned to shoot it by about 6, you just have to prop the end on something. A chair/table/counter top, if you’re small. “Let them get inside and shoot.”- Dad. Never had to use it, because he made sure EVERYONE knew what would happen if they came to our house. He was a good man, who helped people, but we lived in the mountains of Tennessee, & also so as hard as steel & cold as ice.
Friend of mine kill3d a guy who tried to assault her. Dude messed with the wrong lady. She punched him once. Only once. Hard enough that he didn't make it. Guess that's what happens when you try to attack a trained fighter. Haven't talked to her in years but she never felt bad even for a second. All she ever said about it was "that bastard won't hurt anyone anymore and for that i am proud." That girl was an absolute legend, spent a lot of time helping other assault and abuse survivors, including offering protection when they went to court against their abusers.
Doesn't even have to be a trained fighter for a single punch to end you. Humans are pretty durable, but silly and random things take us out all the time. People die from single punches to the head distressingly often.
@@Azereiah yeah, makes it even wilder to see boxers or mma fighters take insane amounts of hits to the face and just continue doesn't it?
@@adenkyramud5005 Yeah, but repeated head traumas like that have led to family massacres. Horrifying stuff, TBI. It's not common that it goes that far, but personality changes less drastic than that can happen too. Friend of mine was worried she'd never be herself again.
I’d be in a class she was teaching.
*Killed
I have no problem with someone ending a life in self-defense. In many of these stories the writers WARNED the attackers and they still approached. The attacker caused his end, not the writers.
I have a problem with the guy saying "if we were in Texas the story would be over already" because he sounds like someone who is happy to have had the opportunity to kill someone, rather than someone who had to do it. Other than that I agree, when someone shoots your accomplice and your first reaction is to move towards them... there's no way to fix that kind of Stupidly Dangerous. I feel bad for the guy really struggling with what he had to do, I hope he gets better.
@@TheOmegaXicor I'm not going to say that I'm wishing a MFer would, but I do agree with the sentiment I picked up from that story. If someone comes at me or mine, they're not going to last long. God forbid I have to take a life, it WILL mess me up, but in that moment there will be zero hesitation. Absolutely no hesitation to take the life of someone wishing to harm my family, only some if they're coming at me and me alone. I can handle the pain, but I can't handle my family being in pain. Seeing them hurt makes me hurt so much more than being hurt myself. So I get the sentiment in the end. I'm sure after a bit I'll stop feeling any remorse for what I had to do, and start feeling angry that the world produced people who either had to be criminals, or wanted to be criminals. Because we should live in a world where nobody is hungry, nobody is at the mercy of the elements, and nobody needs to fear what the next day brings, but we don't. Thousands of years of work, evolution, and society, yet we STILL don't live in that world. That's the real crime of it all.
None of these are real
@ThatNiceNice you have no way of proving that while yes reddit is full of people spinning yarns or heavily stretching truths but alot of stories end up having some grain of truth
@@TheOmegaXicor As someone who lives in Texas, a lot of folks here will only give the intruder a warning shot, and that's if they're in a good mood.
to be fair "dragging away by her hair" gave me the image of a woman on the ground and a man bent over dragging. that would make the woman less of a human shield.
Same here
Still very lucky to not shoot his mom dead (as an 18 year old not focusing/aiming his shots)
@@3days_left oh absolutely!
8 year old having a .22 cal rifle used to be very common, I know lots of people that started shooting .22’s at 4-5 years old. They are also very accurate.
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.22s don't have much in the way of recoil, which makes them perfect for training, especially kiddos. Because they don't have heavy recoil they're actually quite accurate and very common for country folk to use as Vermin Vanquishers, particularly in defense of a garden / livestock. My Dad used one when he was about 7-8.
I think the scariest part of the first story was that the intruders obviously didn't give a shit that the family was home or that the police were coming. They were there to hurt them.
It ended wel
These stories reinforce why it is essential that American's have the 2nd Amendment this is why I always keep a firearm with me at all times. There are evil people out there that do not care about you, your loved ones and we need to do whatever it takes to keep ourselves and loved ones safe.
I always wonder whats going on in their heads. Might be nothing but them just rushing a random family with no thoughts and risking their own deaths for something stupid like that. I want to think people do this with some kind of goal, but maybe there are people who are just pure monsters
I get the feeling they were on drugs
Given that one of the intruders had duct tape, they /planned/ for the family to be home. The whole thing sounds targeted. A couple of lowlifes looking for a quick, easy score aren't going to spend all that time and effort getting through a serious security door. They're going to have one or two goes at it then move on to a place with flimsier defenses.
You'd be surprised. In some states, young kids are allowed to have guns as long as they have adult supervision. There are even "child-sized" versions of things like .22 Rifles, for teaching kids hunting and stuff. Which is probably what the 8 y/o in the story was using.
Yes I was allowed to carry long guns since I was 12. Never hurt anyone. Close call in college tho, when guy smashed our door in. He came down hallway, rounded the corner, and found me waiting with loaded 12 gauge. He had no weapon, and
It’s a pretty prominent thing here in the south. Most kids around here get their first BB gun around kindergarten/first grade, and they just go on from there. But also, gun safety is drilled into kids heads around here as hunting is pretty prominent as well.
I remember from like Kindergarten and up there were gun safety courses in school run by cops and game wardens, think DARE week but for guns and at the end if we had permission we were allowed to fire guns. They had like a mini gun range set up in the gym for us.
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The headphones story, my lord, what if he hadn’t heard his wife screaming? Shudders…
Glad to see I wasn't the only one in the comments section wondering if anyone was going to mention this. Like it made me scared to wear headphones
This story messed me up a bit I dont wanna use this shit anymore
I'm pretty sure he said noise cancelling headphones not the open or semi-open kind, you still can hear through those well enough :D
She must have felt so betrayed that he didn't notice for so long..
That was my thought, I would have never been able to stop resenting my partner for that. In my eyes if you're home with a small child, you need to be present. What if she had a health episode or other emergencies where she was incapacitated? You don't need noise cancelling headphones at home, you just don't.
The kid was definitely eight and not eighteen. A .22 is a very small caliber no matter what the mechanism is, and a lot of children are taught how to keep themselves safe in case of emergencies, or how to hunt.
Adrenaline will stop a person from thinking clearly, so while it's not exactly a miracle the kid didn't hit their mom, it's not good to fire in those circumstances to begin with. Shitty scenario all around.
His parents taught him well to know how to shoot a gun with great aim at 8
@@3days_left It's not hard to teach someone to point an object and pull a trigger. With enough experience, a lot of the flinch goes away, too. It takes a long time and a lot of drilling to get adrenaline shakes under control, though.
If she was being dragged by her hair then more than likely she was on the ground.
narrator must be from Seattle. kids can learn to be responsible for super crazy things. I think it might be the fact grown adults all over can't even figure out their 6 liter a day soda pop habit caused their foot to fall off. kids in the south from centuries ago responsibly used guns and operated dangerous farm machinery and were incredibly competent. I'm not saying it's the best upbringing to be a full time worker aa young child, just that a lot of people act like centuries later kids are still devoid of responsibility.
@@jameswachter5295Also child soldiers are a thing all over the incompetent parts of the world.
How did he think those worked?
Your supervisor coming to your home to make sure you are actually sick is insane. I would have quit that job so fast
Agreed 💯
Yeah they sound like a bit of a nosy stalker.
100% I mean even if you are sick you can leave your home, you still need to buy food or something like this. My boss has no business in what i do if i called in sick. Except i randomly sees me at a party or something, but even that is okay if i hurt my arm or whatever.
Honestly it makes sense.
Especially if they had a problem of people constantly lying about being sick. Which a lot more people than you think actually do.
Same.
I was pissed off about the guy who killed the man who was molesting his girlfriend and went to jail for a YEAR. Since when is defending an innocent person a crime?
Because he wasn't in the middle of doing the act, its not legally defense of other. It was honestly generous that the courts didn't make it premeditated murder seeing as he bought a gun illegally. Unless that was another story. Hard to remember all the details
@xanithdegroot5407 if your first reaction to hearing of your significant others assault is to commit a felony it's iffy. That's a lifestyle choice to be a felon. Then his second choice was to also commit a felony by threatening a legally innocent man.
His decision making MIGHT be the reason he wasn't allowed to buy a gun in the first place. He should be ecstatic to have just 1 year.
@@jackskudlarek3138 yeah. That's why I said it was generous that it was just manslaughter. He should have been charged with first degree murder and illegal possession of an unregistered firearm.
@@xanithdegroot5407Yea, outside of a ground serial number, there was nothing "illegal" about buying a gun from some guy at a car meet. Completely legal sale. Till he mentioned a goind serial number lol
@@ponderin depends on where you're at. Some places have different laws regarding sales of firearms.
Honestly surprised more of these didn't end with OP arrested or tried for murder. Self defense is valid but some prosecutors are jerks.
Depends where and when it occurred. Like 10 years ago all of these would be valid self defense but in modern time they would likely try to go after a few of them.
Can't really speak for the states or other countries but here in Canada they basically want you to be in the middle of being assaulted before its self defense, and even then if you kill or severely injure the attacker they'll still at least try to go after you even if it won't hold up in court.
@@thetoasterisonfire2080Thats because it's a communist country now sadly
Even if they want to, they would have a hard time finding a jury that would convict them
@@greenagoo A charge alone can really ruin someone's life for a few years. There's the financial pressure of lawyer fees and bail, jail if you can't pay, and community stigma regardless. Just because there's no conviction doesn't mean the prosecution is harmless.
@@blackosprey2219 I'm saying, they will almost never try to prosecute stuff like this because they know it's highly likely they won't get the win. They only care about convictions. They don't care about that other shit
With the quote "execution" not defense story. I wouldve done the exact same if not worse. That man lost his right as a human being in that moment and deserved nothing less. I hope he, his wife and his daughter are all doing ok!
I absolutely agree. The detective should be thankful that no tax money need to be wasted on that guy and that there is a 100% guarantee he will not reoffend. Giving someone crap for defending their family from serious assaults is one of the worst things someone can do to a person.
I haven’t killed anyone, but due to my own SA as a 5 year old and my mother having been nearly kidnapped and her teaching me get back home, no matter what, and us being women of color, I know I would if I had to. I started martial arts in my late 20s, my daughter in her early teens. She is 21 and is now this very moment working on her 3rd black belt. We are tiny women, standing 5’1 and we joke with the neighbors we are tiniest and most dangerous women in the block. I’ve only had to defend myself once against a stranger and once against my daughter’s father years before she was born, in the 30 years of taking martial arts. A guy grabbed me and unzipped my jacket at a club (I was nude underneath). I put him on the floor, foot on neck, arm twisted near breaking. Her father got pummeled in the face, black eye, busted lip, before police pulled up, (he was trying to stop me leaving his apartment when I broke up with him, we did get married, divorced but he never put hands on me ever again …still won’t step within arms length of me now).
But I know if I had to defend my daughter or anyone I loved, I would unalive someone without hesitation.
Girlboss!!!
Viet Nam combat vet here and yes I and the unit I commanded took lives. It has never bothered me much given the circumstances and it was us or them. What will really screw someone up is when they start to enjoy it. That is really bad and the Mark of Cain. I had to watch for that with my platoon and had to remind them that while we had a mission which involved killing the enemy it was never a good thing to take a life even if it is our enemy's. Most of the guy could keep that balance but I have seen a few who have gone over the edge that way.
Thankyou for your service. My grandfather was in Nam and hes mind is still there. Its really sad bec everyone thinks hes weird. He just never came home mentally. ❤ Im sorry for what the Military put you through, and i hope you have a good support system now. Take care hon!
@@darkdest6664 thank him? lol. The guy killed people who never invited him to their country. Vietnam war is a stain.
To clarify about the story with the 8 year old. Yes. A 22 caliber rifle is basically one of the weak, starter type firearms you might see kids use at the range. They're small, lightweight, relatively quiet, have barely any kick, and are mainly meant for small game & target practice.
Barely? There is none lol
@@MARCHOFTHESAS True for adults, but I was small growing up. Got a teeny little kick.
The trusted babysitter story was extra sad. OP trusted him! That betrayal is so evil.
Thinks like that are mostly done by family or other people you trust, that is the part of it wich makes it way more evil...
I hope there won’t be a single comment stupidly saying ‘just let them rob you, a life isn’t worth your stuff’ but if there is, remember they could decide your life is worth more than your stuff.
The narrator said it themselves, 5 stories in and 2 of them were stories of people that were more interested in hurting you than saving their own lives.
You are your own first responder, the professionals are minutes away when seconds may matter.
Lest be judged
Oh there probably is, most likely on a different site circlejerking their egos or their naivety
Right. It's not ME decided my stuff is worth more than their life, it's THEM for choosing to steal from the wrong person 🤷🏽♀️
@@NoodleDergsGoBrrr Reddit is more likely that kind of place. I remember someone got into his high horse and sermon about how you're a monster if you kill someone even if it's for self defense.
Remember, I didn't decide your life was worth less than my stuff, YOU decided your life was worth less than my stuff when you broke into my home to steal it
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
46:52 "my socially conscious self doesn't love how O.P. talked about specifically quote unquote black leadership in this post".
He described what they did and said and how they twisted the facts and ruined his life just to advance their own influence and wealth. This is unfortunately somewhat common for many individuals and organizations that are (self-appointed) voices for various causes and groups. Any "socially conscious self" should be as upset about such abuse of power as the O.P. was, as even he correctly pointed out that such behavior harms, not helps, the movements they're claiming to stand for.
I like undersparked but this was kinda a iffy thing that he said like it’s not like it was white leaders or Asian leaders or any other race and it was specifically THEM who harassed op and tried to send him to jail why can’t you call “black leaders” I guess African American leaders would sound more “socially acceptable” but they are one and the same and no I’m not racist I’m just saying op had every right to speck his story and mention and single out the “black leaders” because it’s true they did it he can talk about it
TRUTH!
@user-es2vf4qn3h "African American" is no longer really considered socially acceptable, as it often comes off as patronizing. And a lot of Americans apparently don't understand that not every black person in the world is African American.
There's nothing wrong with using the word "black."
I have no problem with the 'black leadership' bias in that story. there was a similar story ON. TAPE. for everyone to see.only in this case it was the police who were on the receiving end of this phony martyrdom. NYC, and while it was probably on all the major networks a few months back, the one I saw was on ABC. Mentally off possibly drugged up whacked out male screaming and threatening whom I think was his grandmother in a small kitchen. She was on the floor, not more than a foot away from the freaking knife wielding crazy, screaming for her life; there was no where she could back away to as everything was blocked. The police must have yelled at this guy for several minutes before the final send off.
The next day, all the 'black leadership' with their basset hound expressions were out decrying the fact the police had shot a black guy. Not ONE word about that woman. NOT ONE FREAKING WORD. The story went nowhere; the media did not harp on it, the 'leaders' race pot stirring did not bring any followers out.. that was the end of it. However, I guarantee, at the end of the day after multiple stories like this, they are going to make more enemies than they started out with.
@@SkyFyre2435 I am 71. they have changed this several times. each one acceptable and the previous one ejected. I don't care anymore as I am tired of it.
Something like this happened to me. It's not much of a story. My dad was a marine and taught us girls basic self-defense. When I was 13, I was walking home from school in the evening after a club activity. A man attacked me. I don't really remember the rest. The next thing I remember is getting home, and my dad was on his way out the door to find me, cause he "had a feeling. " He asked me if I was hurt and what happened. I told him I wasn't, and everything that I remembered. He said to go take a shower and put my clothes in the trash and not tell anyone. Then he left the house. When I got in the bathroom, I realized that I was covered in blood spray. I did what he said, and he came back about 2 hours later and reminded me that we were never going to talk about it again. For years, I didn't. This happened when we were living overseas. It was not a good area. I always wanted to ask him where he went, but he died, and I never had the chance. I don't know if I did unalive someone or not. No one ever talked to me about it if I did.
Damn. That sounds kinda traumatising to not only know what your dad did, but what happened to you. I personally would need to know (even if it wasn't savoury), but I have no doubt that your father was acting on your best interests, so if you don't need to know, I genuinely hope you can rest easy knowing you have a loving parent who potentially put themselves out there for you.
I've always trusted that he knew what to do. He was a loving and compassionate person.
@@heatheranne9305 that fact that he was a marine tells me that whatever problem might have existed when he told you that didn't exist anymore by the time he got home. Got to know a few marines, there are no other people I'd trust more in bad situations than these lot. God bless the USMC.
8 is a common age for firearms training in rural areas. a 22 has no real power so it was a trick shot that he hit with lethal force. 22 bolt actions are called children's guns, used to be boy's guns but I had one as a child myself. 28 gauge shotguns are also low powered first guns.
To be fair, the only time I ever saw someone refer to .22 as 'less than lethal' unironically was part of the ZIP .22 advertisements, and it was only accurate in that case because getting a ZIP to fire is a nigh-on miracle.
@@gratuitouslurking8610I remember that pos it completely destroyed the company
It was defenitly no trick shot to land a fatal shot, a hit in the lung, heart, head it as deadly with a .22 then with a bigger calibre. Yeah a shot in everything else then the head/neck or heart would take a while but still deadly in a vital area, a .22 is no joke and allot of people die by .22 bullets. Not the best calibre for self defence because the stopping power is not really good, but it works. Nontheless is it a good gun for children to train.
The very fact you don’t like his comments about black leadership getting behind obviously and undesirable undeserving coward is exactly why he used those words. I support OP 100%.
You mention your level of empathy, and even being soft, but honestly thats what I like most about this channel. I can trust y'all to listen and care, and consider the human aspect of things. Helps me feel comfortable and relax, and just listen to the stories
Story 4 vet, technically, yeah, you killed him, but to be fair, with a bomb that big in the van, that guy was taking a one-way trip either way even if you didn't pull the trigger on him.
To OP who is feeling messed up by what happened, what you had to do, I’m glad you’re still around and if it helps any, I would give you a hug for as long as you need.
I don't think I would be bothered by the deaths in most of these situations, maybe the trauma of going through said event but not for the deaths. A lot of them sound like they were dangerous people who gave up their right to life by endangering and even hurting others for pleasure or greed.
To reinforce the fact the guy who isn’t handling it well is not being weak or whatever, police officers usually to go see a psychiatrist after shooting someone because of how traumatic it is considered. Killing someone is hard to do in actuality and it can mess people up severely for the rest of their lives.
100% the reason I hate how all headphones have to be noise cancelling. It's nearly impossible to find good headphones that aren't. I have been attacked several times and got away because I could hear someone approaching which gave me a split second to really react and get away. Why does everything have to be noise cancelling??! WHY!?
Only reason I feel confident walking late out night in.my headphones is because of my (very protective, but elderly) cattle dog. At night, I'm her eyes and she's my ears.
Plus I know how to handle myself, my main concern is rando drunk people trying to atognoise her into full protection mode. Cattle dogs are smart and loyal as fuck, but fairly enough still think they're all still on farms, so anything approaching us on very very long daily walk/run is a threat and must be backed away.
I rescued her when she was young from bad situation (wanted too badly to please the owner instead of doing her job) so in return I got the most protective, needy, abandonment issued, super smart, wonderful cuddle bug instead xx
Yeah my uncle is the same. Only goes jogging with his dog by his side because he has been attacked in broad daylight. They try to antagonise his dog too
Raycon earbuds have a pass-through setting.
Its easy just buy open back headphones, the sound quality is better for the same price anyway
@@SuperSpecies The only bad thing about open backs is that everyone else can hear it.
It is a sad state of society when you have to say unalive.
People make fun of the 90s and their donuts and cousins and sports drinks but look what we got now.
Its so people dont say " im gonna k- you" or stuff like that.
@@Banana_SlammaOther than the increase in racism, homophobia, and lack of laws against predators, I wouldn’t mind living in the 90’s
@@luckyslob3359 You can’t really decide as to whether those are lessened or not, my guy. Either you wanna live in THE 90s or you don’t.
@@Aesos3429 Yeah…? I know those things are there, but hey I’m tolerating now pretty fine.
I’m a little confused as to when I insinuated I wanted to “decide” what kind of 90’s I wanted to live in. But ey, it’s a little mistranslation, no worries.
The one about the babysitter trying to assault OP stuck with me over all the others, she viewed him as a brother and enjoyed hanging out with him, it just sucks that situation happened and ended the way it did
as I live in a rather peaceful country I never had to kill to self defend, but I did in one time find myself, being an EMT, in a situation where I needed to hit a woman twice my weight, drunk and having psychiatric condition in the head to stop her from hitting me. (yes, same story in a different video where we listed her as a "danger list" for my fire brigade)
I thought I could try to handle this. I was half mistaken. This is dark, and I think it is time I lay off on these stories. Remember, your mental health is important. And I feel bad for those who suffer from mental issues, but remember, you are loved, and nothing can change that. You are in a bad situation, but you can always recover from it. Have a great day.
The term you're looking at for "dragging" is carrying. The true dragging in the person or often too heavy for you to lift, you pull them against the ground. The dragged victim's head would barely be over your waist. So the person's back is full of targets that would miss her as long as he's careful to aim only over the waist.
On the topic of story 9, I don't think people truly understand how terrifying being choked or choking someone can be unless it's happened to them. I have a friend who is a professional fighter in my class at uni. We were hanging out in my dorm, and he was talking about chokeholds. I do karate and told him that I've never properly been choked before, as we do semi-contact at karate. I let him do one on me so i could experience what it's like.
As a disclaimer, don’t do this yourselves. He's been training for years, so not only can he do it safely, but efficiently. As in "Knocked out within 10 seconds" efficiently.
As soon as he put the pressure on, I panicked, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen. 3 seconds, no more than that. I have not felt so panicked in years and I could feel it for the next hour.
Tldr: Choking induces panic like you would not believe, so don’t choke people.
My 8 year old can rack a slide and charge an ar15. That being said, no way in hell id give him a firearm to keep. At that age they are old enough to handle them safely and know not to shoot someone, but the maturity level is not there. That's taking a huge unnecessary risk.
I wanna say at 12 we knew where the hand gun was and the ammo that being said I did not own a gun but knew how to safely use it. (My cousin had dated a druggy and he kept coming over after she moved to try and get her. I've had to call the cops a few times for him trying to break in and im home alone with my siblings
Story 27 is annoying they need to take accountability for their fellow ppl do stop pulling the race shi!! It’s his fault for breaking in you get what you pay for… oh well maybe it will help ppl think twice before they do something stupid!!! I’m sure his mother had an idea too they are not stupid they ignore their kid’s actions until they loose them 🤦🏽♀️
Related note: I feel like the Agency of the perpetrator is often… ignored(?) sometimes in cases like this.
I feel like that happens for different reasons a lot of times, but it ends up giving me a bad taste in my mouth.
Like, yeah they did (insert crime) and maybe loss of life could have been prevented, but They made a conscious decision.
Does that make sense? Idk if i described it very well but it’s something that’s lowkey bothered me for a while now.
0:13 two men busted in your backdoor?? 🤨🤨
S tier intro
HELP
That's what, HE said? Thank you. This made me smile
lewd
Isn't that a tad inappropriate for a video like this? I mean, that person had their house broken into./nm /gen
A person being dragged by the hair can be on the ground, not always stumbling after their attacker. And in some parts of the States, people do actually let kids that young have guns
I always here is your stuff worth more than someone else's life. These stories prove that its not the stuff thats in danger its the people
If mom was being dragged she was more than likely lower than the attacker and eight year olds are taught to use guns especially where I live in the country…lots of kids learn to hunt around that age
Story 8 may have been an execution but it was a warranted execution
I hope I'm never in a situation like any of these, but I think I would lean toward no regrets. It might take me a bit to come to terms with the reality of the situation and outcomes, but ultimately, I will choose my life.
The "noise cancelling headphones" one is actually why I always have one ear cup behind my ear and a weapon nearby at all times when I'm home alone, especially considering I live in a pretty dodgy neighborhood
Story 12 19:43
8 Years is correct here. This is in a rural area in the US. If you live there, its likely you own guns. If you own guns, you better teach your children gun safely as soon as they can walk. A 22 bolt action is a rifle that shoots 0.22 inch diameter (about 5mm) bullets. If you can hold the rifle, you can deal with the recoil. It is just one step above an air gun. It is still a lethal weapon, and the trusts these parent have in their child is immense. But the fact that the child hit 3 of 5 shots tells that the child had lots of firearm training before.
I am not sure whether or not I would let a child this young have access to a firearm and munition, but in this situation it was a good thing they had. Safety rules change, if you live so far away from others that you can not call for help.
21:50 Sparky boy, you clearly do not come from the country or old-school traditional American family. Most boys gets his (Red Ryder .17, BB, .22) at a single-digit age. All my children will be taught to shoot at a very young age. Families vary, but it is common to teach boys (especially) to shoot pretty much as soon as they can hold the gun and have shown themselves to be ready to become a big boy. It is imperative for children to understand 1) guns are not toys 2) they need to learn to operate them safely and effectively.
Hey! Wrote about this same thing almost word for word before looking for this comment haha
Story 12. He could have been 8. I know friends of mine were given .22 rifles at very young ages to plink in their yard. Usually this is out in the country, where guns are much more a part of your upbringing. I was 10 when my uncle first gave me a .22 to shoot.
The kid with the 22: I have no doubt that the kid was 8 years old. In most families that have multiple firearms the young are commonly taught gun safety at an early age so that curiosity will not be a factor when weapons are involved.
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Story 30, the guy who's having a rough time: This is PTSD. Some people get PTSD and some people don't; there's an element of luck of the draw to it. There's no shame in having PTSD, and it's not somehow less valid if you're not a soldier.
I have PTSD - not from doing anyone violence, but from some bad times in my own life - and gosh, OP, I feel for you. I've been there. All I can say is that it does get better, and please, talk to a therapist about it. It took me four years to move toward 'okay-ish', but I'm ten years out from my darkest times and life is worth living. Having a professional help with all those nightmares and intrusive thoughts would have made the healing so much easier, and I hope you're able to access one.
Alot of these stories are the result of fucking around and finding out
That's a great point to bring up in story 12, how insenuating feelings in people that they aren't having can make them feel like theres something wrong with them. Whether that story was true or not, I think that's a good thing to remember.
I'm sure others have already posted this, but a .22 is a really small caliber. In fact, if you don't get your shots right, it is very easy for someone to survive. Also, a .22 has almost no recoil so it is perfect for anyone who is young to learn how to shoot. So, it is very likely the guy was 8 years old in that story.
Your commentary at the end of story 11 is a big part of why I personally try to condition myself as a concealed carrier. I'm not wanting to harm someone but I have to drill myself on the knowledge that some people may want to harm me and will possibly force my hand one day. I think that mental conditioning allows it to be easier to cope with because it creates a rational disconnect from the situation by which one can tell themselves that their attacker is to blame for their untimely demise.
“Busted in my back door” killled me 💀💀
Q: Why would robbers continue to move TOWARD an intended victim who declared that he was armed?
A: They were high on aggression-promoting drugs like cocaine or methamphetamine.
Or they're just like that. My cousin is a pseudomasachist and a psychopath, so whether you hurt him or he hurts you, he likes it. He's a druggy too, but that doesn't have anything to do with the foundational personality.
TBH, doesn't even need the drugs for it. Getting within 6ft of a person can drastically cause issues with maneuvering a handgun (see all those officer bodycams where someone's armed with a melee weapon and is able to pressure the cops by continuing to walk forward as the cops demand them to drop it/keep backing up, that's part of the training.) All it takes is someone with more bravado than self-preservation to think 'yeah I can cross the distance and get it off them.' Sometimes they can be correct, and other times, well, see the video.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Yep! Of the many things that piss me off in movies, it's failing to recognize the 'range of efficacy'.
Some people still believe they're invincible. Especially people who love to intimidate people. Superhuman way of thinking, but normal human body.
Its sad some peoples self-preservation is so low they would just run into someone with a gun. im not sorry for them as they chose the path of murder, but them not valuing the only life theyll get
As a person living in a red state in the midwest, I'm inclined to believe the 8-year-old story. It's definitely not a norm to have a gun under your sole custody that young, but I knew how to use one by that age. Cub scout camps almost always have .22 riflery under close supervision. Boy scouts (age 12 and up) frequently had shotguns and clay pigeons.
I’m one who likes to believe that no one deserves to die but the way people just blindly ignore warnings several times just shows they really don’t value their lives as much as they should
Yeah wow, one of my mom's friends was stabbed 13 or something times protecting a girl at a party, I think the attacker was shot or stabbed can remember tho. The guy that was stabbed 13 times lived tho.
20:54 No, he meant Eight in rural areas kids are taught how to hunt small game such as rabbits for food and it's common in scouting to teach kids to use a rifle
Leave it to SF to label it an execution he’s lucky he didn’t get charged by them
I mean, all they wanted him to do was announce his presence first, giving the guy all the time in the world to either kill his wife or take her hostage. Leave it to these idiots to care more about the man doing this to a woman while also saying he is going to do it to her daughter next. Crazy how backwards society is. I guess the husband should have offered the guy a Gatorade and a cigarette, he might be parched after the entire event.
21:07 in the south of the US at least, it's common for kids to handle guns. my dad taught me gun safety around 5 since we had them in the house and got me my own child-sized gun a few years later so i could go to the range with him
Ya the age didn't even faze me. I live in Texas, my nephews were given rifles with locks at 6 and a BB gun at 3. I don't personally approve but they aren't my kids and it's not uncommon.
My dad did the same thing for me. He was in the Army and when he stationed at Ft Wainwright he did the ski and shoot events
Not to brag but my uncle (after abt a year of teaching me gun safety and what not) let me shoot his 50cal sniper that I had taken an interest in looking at/cleaning from time to time. I was 7 when I finally got to shoot it, braced by my uncle so I didn’t fly 15 feet in the opposite direction
And 22lr is more like a more powerful bb gun, at least in my eyes
I was shooting rifles, shotguns, and riding Yamaha 80s at that age. I grew up right, in the county...
8 Year olds with guns. In the mid-1980s as an 8 year old Pennsylvania farm boy living at the base of a mountain covered in trees, creeks, and small ponds that my family owned a chunk of all the way to the top, along with knowing all the neighbors.
I was carrying a .22mag Ruger Single-Six OR a .22lr Ruger Mark-II w/(snake/bird shot) OR a .410 bolt action shotgun, whenever I wandered beyond the back yard of my Great-Aunts house which was almost everyday...
Rattle snakes, Copperheads, Coyotes, Bobcats, Bears, Feral dogs...
"Keep your eyes and ears open. Avoid danger when you can. If you can't scare it away, Put it/them down before it/them puts you down."
Now-days My EDC is 9mm compact, with a Judge w/(defense loads) in the nightstand for 3am bedroom doorway situations and a gun-safe next to the dresser & wardrobe. I've been 'Attempted' Mugged/Carjacked 2 times, both dropped the weapons and ran when I drew.
A relative, who is long dead, fought in a war, I think it was the Mexican Revolution. He told my dad that he has no idea if he every killed anyone. My grandpa on my mom’s side almost killed a guy who was following my mom and her friend (both were in their teens), guy left as soon as he saw my grandpa with the rifle, that was definitely a close call. I come from a Mexican family so I imagine there have been stories of having to kill in self-defense from the older generation due to war, thankfully I have no experienced that.
Story 27 reminds me a lot of a similar type of situation that happened in my country (was a few years ago, so i dont remember the exact details)
It was about a group of native American teens who snuck onto the farm of a man and were trying to steal things from him, and the man came out, warned them to leave, and when they didn't he shot at and killed I think both of them? Either way, the media made a big deal about it and the whole native American community painted it as a hate crime despite the fact that the teens were trespassing and threatened the guy. Basically made his life hell for years after
Nothing worse than trial by media, especially when they print what suits them in sales of papers.
You'd be surprised how many little kids can use guns lol- I live in Vermont where you don't need a license for concealed carry and I know 10 year olds that own guns and kids who learn to shoot with their parents even earlier because of hunting. I don't doubt that op could have at least landed a couple shots on that guy at 8
.22 is still a bullet. Zero recoil even for a child
As for the 8 year old, that's actually fairly common in more rural areas. A .22lr has basically no kick so it's good for learning discipline. Knowing how to use a rifle is important in rural areas for hunting and fending off wild animals, it's not surprising, to me at least, that an 8 year old would be taught how to properly use and store a firearm
1) Yes, 8 year olds can be taught to use a rifle. It seems a bit young to me, but it paid off in this instance.
2) His mom was being drug, *not* carried. She's on the ground, while the guy was (at most) bent over her. Given the circumstances, probably not even bent over.
Im assuming the story with the 8yo OP was, in fact, an 8yo OP. Its not unusual for young children to be taught by their parents how to shoot and handle guns, especially something like a .22; usually for hunting, but also to teach proper gun safety.
OP's story of using a .22 bolt action, I could see it. a .22 is pretty easy to handle and has very little recoil. Esp if OP was living somewhere like a farm or other rural area where police response would be delayed. it could very easily of been done
An 8 year old can handle a gun and it was common practice until the internet took over
When seconds count the police are only minutes away!
That is how a real life is ruined, when you defend yourself against someone with A WEAPON but because of y’all’s skin color, YOU’RE labeled a racist and the attacker while everyone forgets about the facts that the person entered someone else’s place of work or home looking to cause harm upon you or anyone who gets in their way……🙄
...... my son, 7, owns a .22 rifle and knows how to use it. Training kids with safe gun practices and respect towards weapons drastically reduces the chances he'll accidentally hurt himself or others. It's super common where I live, and honestly, im glad that boy saved his mum.
Also dear narrator, you can't say you sympathize then condem with your next words. If you've never been in a situation you don't get to judge if it's OK or not. Till you are faced with death at the hands of our fellow man you'll never understand, and it shows unfortunately.
To all of the fellow veterans, please don't stress out about this it was you or them and I am glad you all came home!!
As regards the 8 year old, the rifle he described is a .22, which is a very small round, sufficient for small game, like squirrels, ground hogs, and the like... but will not humanely kill anything much bigger, not reliably anyhow. When he says bolt action, he's describing the way the firearm operates, with a manually-operated bolt (the part that holds the round in the chamber), which must be pushed up to unlock it, pulled to the rear to eject the last spent shell casing, pushed back forward to load a new round from the magazine into the chamber, then re-locked by pushing it down. There's no springs to fight in this whole process, so no issues of a child's upper body strength. It's a very simple manual of arms, and on a .22, well within the capabilities of an 8 year old. I learned firearms at about the same age on similar rifles, as a rural latch-key kid back in the 90s. Having the open access to it like that, rather than it being locked in a safe or something, is a bit unusual, but the fact that the kid was proficient in its use does not strike me as odd.
thanks for bringing back the gaming footage, it's sooo much better
21:24 brother, you're probably not real big into gun culture. But the way it works varies from kid to kid. Maturity of the kid is assessed and given a gun when the kids deemed ready. Might be 8. Might be 13. I had my first bolt action at 5. 8 is very realistic. And the drag was probably happening by the collar.
Regarding the guy that was dragging his mom away, she could have been on the ground and he might have been dragging her by her hair or by her arm and she more than likely was not standing up.
Also in rural areas, kids are taught very young how to handle guns. 8 years old with a .22 is not that uncommon. Kids around here drive to school with rifles hanging in the back window on a rack. Especially during hunting season.
9:54 I knew this one would come up… Recognized from someone else's video, still a really hard one to hear again! Thank God for that one quiet moment
Oh my god.. Story 8 is just downright horrifying, like physically make-you-sick-to-your-stomach and burst-out-in-tears kind of horrifying. If I were ever in that situation, I don’t think I could be nearly as merciful as the husband was.
I am so, so sorry for anyone who has ever had or gone through an experience like this. It is never and never was your fault, no matter what you said, wore, or anything else. Please know that continuing to live your life is one of the biggest middle fingers you can give to these scumbags, and that you deserve to be happy.
Edit: If I have triggered anyone, please let me know and I will take this comment down. Thank you.
I dont judge anyone in any of these stories. I do feel bad doe those who are having trouble coping with the after effects and fervently hope they seek the help they need. Self forgiveness is often the hardest thing to do.
My kids got their first .22 when they were 5. Little bolt action crickets. I’ve tight them proper weapons handling, maintenance and safety. Never had any issues
26:56 this one really hit home for me because i’ve always lived very fortunate, not rich, but not poor either, and i never realized how fortunate i was until a “friend” of mine took advantage of me in high school.
i also think that it’s really sad that for this girl, she kept quiet as possible before they started threatening sexual assault. it truly is a scary thing, and people always wonder why we’d rather choose bear. this is why.
My brother got hus first gun from my parents when he was 10. It was a 30-30 winchester lever action. And my grandfather thought he should have gotten it younger.
I haven't killed anyone in self defense, but I did kill someone's social life in self defense. there was some kid I was friends with who would just invite people over to his house so he could bully them. eventually all of us decided to stop hanging out with him. this was in late elementary school and early middle school, and we ended up getting to see him go through high school with no social life, no friends, always looked depressed, and seemingly did nothing with his life after high school. he graduated a couple years ago, and as far as I know he still lives with his parents, never leaves the house, doesn't have a job, and still has no friends, but then again I haven't heard shit about him in years
I imagine the mom being on the ground as he said she was being dragged by her hair...in the backwoods, more common than you think, to teach a child to handle a gun.
That co-worker was in on it.
Story 8 fucked me up man.
In story 1 the fact they had duct tape made my skin crawl
Jeez, the fact that not only the people on drugs or out for targeted revenge still approached when the OP announced they were armed, but the ones who were just there to rob the house did too is super dumb... obviously I wouldn't be robbing someone but in that position, I'm running with whatever I already have in my hands, if nothing else to live to cash out another day.
Also, I have ANC earbuds and basically never use any mode except for pass-through... paid for the ANC and don't like using it. No headset at home, just speakers and a mic. It's always just felt right (honestly just more polite so I don't accidentally ignore someone trying to talk to me), and I'm sure glad I do now lol
21:02 if your raised right like I was I got my first gun at 7. It was a 22 and I got BB guns before that. It’s all about learning and demonstrating gun safety, once i demonstrated good gun safety for a long time my parents got me a 22 and progressed from there. So a kid can easily handle a gun but it’s all about being trained to handle a gun properly. And being able to demonstrate that safety in different circumstances
Please start posting the game and platform in the description, thanks!!!
Game used is “Control”
@@Noura-xk3wh Thanks, it looks awesome.
A smart criminal who's just trying to feed their family or something will back down the instant they realize someone is home. These were not smart criminals.
I know it's hard, but I hope the sensitive ones are able to put aside what they had to do. Better you survive than a person so crazy and willing to harm others.
As donut oprator says "nothing of value was lost". Good job OP's.
"Sorry man, you saw my face."
*guts mugger*
"Sorry man, it was my life over yours. Night night."
ive ended up having to skip every time i hear the "downstairs i heard my wife screaming" that one triggers me so much as someone who was s/aed (though not.. like violent or anything) its just so scary and im so glad the husband was able to help her as much as he could
Moral of the story: don’t rush somebody who is armed.
Ooh, playing Control? That's a fantastic game. Love Remedy's nonsense 😊
Kids CAN be taught to safely handle a rifle I was left home alone with a loaded rifle for protection from 9 up. I learned to shoot it by about 6, you just have to prop the end on something. A chair/table/counter top, if you’re small. “Let them get inside and shoot.”- Dad. Never had to use it, because he made sure EVERYONE knew what would happen if they came to our house. He was a good man, who helped people, but we lived in the mountains of Tennessee, & also so as hard as steel & cold as ice.
How’d I miss a upload 😭😭