The Most Pathetic Ways Twitter Users Defend Movies
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Been seeing QUITE the activity on film Twitter recently, and it inspired this video. Crap of course as I was uploading this, I see the worst ad hominem I've ever seen. Oh well. Ad hominems are nothing and used when you have absolutely nothing to say.
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my favorite one is "if you hate it so much then make your own movie"
The "To criticise a bad film, book, TV show, game or so on you have to make your own or a better one" excuse is stupid because you don't.
It’s even better when the person receiving this “argument” proceeds to actually make a better story with less effort and budget.
I think they should try to make their own movie
My response is always “great idea! Let me just get my millions of dollars, professional actors and writers, years of experience and another 30 million for advertising and merchandise!”
Two more really stupid defenses:
1.) "Imagine ranting about [title of movie] in [current year]."
2.) "Come on, let it go already."
"The internet has brought about the era of the eternality of information, now better than ever we can look back to build a better future" Twitter user:"Nah forget it"
those don't sound like defenses
@@isamekailmahmud9302 yeh they are technically fallacies or deflections, but they employed as defenses. Being a defense is more of a use case than a characteristic of an argument
This is what I mostly hear when ppl defend bad written mystery visual novels.
"You just dont understand it."
"Whatever company they base their personalities on" was probably the best and most relatable thing I've heard in a minute. Will definitely be using that one (With credit of course) XD
It's crazy how much brain power people waste on defending mediocrity and on pretending that any and all forms of criticism are bad.
literally no purpose
@@TheMathtag I really don't understand them. Why do they have to pretend every single time that what they like can never be bad like demented fanatics.
Soda is not good for people but people like it. Tobacco is also not good but people still smoke it.
Admitting u like a shitty movie isn't a crime.
@@waseem__600 Exactly. Everyone likes something that sucks. What's the big deal.
@@mksmike Yeah what's the problem in liking something that is bad. Why do u need to defend bad things to hell
4:17 This is one I can't stand. Apparently knowing the difference between a well written minority character who's an interesting character who happens to be a minority where it's not their only character and personality trait and not every storyline they have is about it. Knowing the difference between that and a token character where their minority is all there is to them is supposedly prejudiced.
Every single day someone with four pictures of shitty DC movie with caption " Masterpiece " Every single day
Batman long halloween was really good
I like the movies but they're shit
@@robin2117I recommend the animated ones there are a couple of new ones
@@trla6505 ik they're really good but the live actions not so much
TLDR: No matter how stupid you are, treating your opinion as if it's fact, there'll always be someone out there with common sense who used logic and clips from the stuff you like against you.
Moral of the story: If you are defending a movie or something, actually have reasons
This channel is literally the love child of MauLer and The Critical Drinker
And it’s great
And a bit of CinemaSins
@@AlejoConejo-vb8ln a tiny bit
@@lfnreviews Oh yeah ofc. Too much in excess is bad
man shouts at cloud.
This describes the fanbase of the Last jedi
I dunno, I'd disagree with that. I'm a fan of TLJ, and overwhelmingly all I see when people talk about liking the movie is randoms coming to attack them. Like there are entire massive sections of the internet who dedicate themselves to hating the Last Jedi and the sequels in general, but the reverse doesn't exist. I don't think there is a single video that talks positively about TLJ that isn't swamped with people ruthlessly mocking people for liking it. On the other hand, videos that call it terrible usually only have a few people defending the movie who are buried in comments calling them stupid. The DCEU has a rabid base of people who defend the movies, TLJ seems to have a rabid base of people who attack the movie.
@@enotsnavdier6867 thats sorta a sign that the movie is shit
@@enotsnavdier6867 i didnt waste the time watching the movie but if its directed by the same dumbass who made force awakens about a trooper who watched his friend get shot in front of him by the "resistance" gay ass name by the way and decides oh boi i cant wait to break one of them out of prison and start killing more of my friends thats enough reason to just boycott starwars as a whole at this point
@@generalshock4359 glad you didn't cause it's fucking awful, the hate is deserved RJ ruined SW which is surprising since he's not a bad director but with SW it felt like he simply hated it
@@generalshock4359 your entire point is ruined because you were homophopic which is sad because I would've agreed with you
this guy has common sense! a VERY rare trait in people.
i love the "this is popular/made a lot of money so its good" comments people make. they say it with such confidence.
Well. It makes sense
If you believe people equally good at judging something, then the most popular thing is good.
If people are not equally good and some are better then others, there is a need to justify why some judgement is better then other. Why is some criticism more valid then that of the masses, and what decides that.
@@Psy_Ro >masses
Historically, that's probably one of the *worst* parties to bandwagon on lmao.
@@JG_Wentworth while that is indeed true, equally great atrocities were done by those who thought themselves above the masses.
@@Psy_Ro I'm just saying, a mob can get a *lot* done. A mob also can't be reasoned with to any capacity, you can *try* to stop one person with words but good luck stopping a hundred, a thousand that way.
@@JG_Wentworth and I get it and you are right in a way
It is also why it is strange that this point is being delievered when the thing discussed was taste in media.
But even if we extrapolate to every aspect of life, ignoring public opinion can indeed be unwise
A movie that looks good but had a trash story line is the equivalent of getting a hollow chocolate easter bunny
I mean idk do you really want all that thick chocolate?
@@alexoxo1 its America, if eating one bite doesnt make me nearly flat line it's not good enough
@@LiquidSoapDrinker no no it has to be DEEP FRIED and then covered in chocolate again
@@alexoxo1 true
4:39 his voice paired with the clip makes me think that madvocate is the one true Spider-Man.
2:21 this is the argument I hate the most
It's not as much an argument as it is an attempt to turn the discussion in a direction that the fan can better defend the thing, it might as well be taken as admitting defeat: "I can't defend the movie I like from an artistic standpoint, I'll try to defend it from a financial standpoint."
Especially since poor reviews can lead to damaged box office earnings for the future.
Example would the new (2021) The Suicide Squad, which is universally considered good but it was a box office failure because of the 2016 film being awful
Consume product, don't question product.
The struggle of living in a world where "opinions" and facts are deemed the exact same is real.
love to end me a proper discussion with "but that's my opinion and it is valid" when I'm referring to actual facts and not expressing my own opinion on the matter
Thanos to Tony: Stark [...] you're not the only one cursed with knowledge. Madvocate suffers around idiots as you do.
0:53 These are the "New stuff is good just because it's new and old stuff sucks because it's old" types. A film's age doesn't determine its quality.
I would just like to note that the disappearing knife at 5:54 is also a disemboweling knife.
"This is a movie about Space Wizards intended for children"
I think it's also important to remember that the budget and time constraints on The Mandalorian are far tighter than that movie too.
I hate when people try to dismiss criticism of a movie or trilogy by completely oversimplifying the argument or trying to divert the attention away from the real problems. I’ve seen this done with the sequels and the Hobbit.
It’s also like “Damn Bro, you hit me with the 🤓? Guess my well built argument is destroyed”
It feels like he is rambling in his sleep after not being able to sleep because he went to twitter the other day.
I don’t think people noticed that Madvocate playing clips of himself playing Star Wars as Darth Maul killing clone troopers is a metaphor or symbolism of him destroying garbage film defending Stans in this video
Madvocate > Cinema Sins
Not really that high of a bar to surpass
He reminds me of daddy diesel patches.
YOU NEED MORE VIDEOS I WATCHED MOST OF YOUR VIDEOS AND RAN OUT ALREADY
“Uhg it’s just a movie bro grow up 😩”
My favorite one is when marvel fanboys get mad when you point out an inconsistency in marvel writing and say “hating marvel isn’t a personality!” Like what? I never claimed it was I just criticized your favorite series for something it did poorly
Exactly, mate. I get this shit whenever I criticize phase 4, especially Fatws.
@@grayski3324 it’s an easy ad hominem to throw out while not having a valid counter point
@@joro3945 It's sad to see since I love discussing media and finding it's objective quality.
@@grayski3324 same here, it’s just a sign of how people believe there can only stance or another with media it’s not like you can enjoy something but still criticize what it did wrong..
If you dare point out s flaw you must be a DC fanboy!!!
1:33
4:10
That "-retcons" item was intentional? (Considering that it appears after and not before).
Brillant...
I really liked this video. Though I wish you mentioned the “It’s a kids show/movie” arguement as well.
That arguement makes my blood boil. That just implies that if your audience is younger, you don't have to give shit in the writing department.
@@grayski3324 agreed. That and there have been great content for children as well.
I'm assuming retcons caused by outside forces are fine, like the actor swap in Iron Man 2, etc?
That Battlefront 2 footage really made me nostalgic.
When I was still a student in from 2014 to 2019 me and my friends had our "series" evening where we watched ep of different series, Flash was one of them and after about 3 ep´s we started to make a hobby out of it to call out every logic failure we could find. Fun times.
That sounds fun as hell XD
I don't get how people can spend their real life time shilling for shit content.
>”This movie is good and people who disagree with me are wrong” cringe
> “I enjoyed it.” Based
I've actually seen one of those posts. Someone made a post saying "Iconic" and they were just pictures of all the times Batman has looked at Superman, and Superman looks back. Truly masterful
Every time you use Only Time in one of your videos it brings a smile to my face. My mom had an Enya CD she'd put in while driving when I was a kid and teenager, and that song always brings back nice memories.
4:51 recently I've stumbled upon a person defending the Peter Pan villain from the Rescue Rangers film saying that even if it's distasteful towards Bobby Driscoll, Cats Don't Dance also had a child actor villain, meaning that generally it's not the first movie that makes villains out of children that were mistreated by studios.
... And yeah, I don't really care about Cats Don't Dance? It's still scummy?
What if I made a movie with the KKK being unironically heroes and say "Well, Birth of a Nation did it too"?
I fucking hate whatboutisms SO FUCKING MUCH. 99% of the time it's just people defending a bad thing by bringing up another bad thing from a past film.
The concept of growing up and simply... get this... avoiding to do something YOU KNOW IS WRONG is fucking alien to these consoomers.
as much as I like Tommy Wiseau and Zack Snyder
Aint no way I'm gonna ignore how bad the theatrical releases of his movies are
The Room is objectively bad but an objectively bad movie can be a lil bit more appreciated if the movie's faults made it funny.
How I feel about the new Batman and Spider-Man movies. And because of that dc fans say I’m a marvel fan and marvel fans just call me racist. Maybe I’m just too jaded tbh or maybe I’m just bored seeing the same thing again and again
When I watch movies, shows, or listen to music WRITING IS EVERYTHING. Good writing matters, bad writing NEVER WINS. I love substance and complex story writing that isn't lazy. I love artwork that has passion that people put their heart and soul in their work. There are films I hate though, but I have reasons why they don't work.
this is why i cant support the high rating of demon slayer on MAL as much as others. The one aspect i cherish the most, writing, is mediocre. im hoping for it to improve as more manga chapters are adapted, though.
Man this is a top quality channel
Are we not going to talk about how dollar store Venom was choking dollar store Spider-Man at: 0:40
not just choking
The new justice league squad game brought you here
Movies that get's a lot of money put into it these day's cannot make risks. They have to make something everybody likes nut no one loves.
Imagine if people had this mans logic in politics. there would be alot of empty colleges and a more productive society
Problem is... Politics is more about money, power, and pride.
So... They'd likely just use the newfound logic to fuck shit up more for more of that.
Eh. When it comes to entertainment if I like it, I like it, if I don't, I don't. Simple.
roger ebert has also said many stupid and wrong things about movies so yeah
I can watch a movie or show every now and then but it’s hard to rewatch any newer movies, although easily I’d say the polar express’s “hot chocolate” scene is the best in the universe because I said so.
Honestly I don’t like watching modern shows or movies anymore, I just play games and such.
0:37 Now of course bottom right needs no explanation at all because it's self-explanatory why it's a masterpiece.
1:39 I would like to say that retcons aren't inherently bad because things like Vader being Luke's Vader in ESB was a recon because originally Obi-Wan was telling the truth about what happened to Anakin, so retcons do get a bad rap for a good reason because more often than not they're bad, but that doesn't mean that they're not inherently bad.
2:21 There are Transformers movies that are in the billion-dollar club, while Citizen Kane and It's A Wonderful Life bombed, does that mean that those Transformers movies are better than Citizen Kane and It's A Wonderful Life.
The 4 pretty screenshots usually have "can we stop pretending 'x' is bad"
Heres a new defense: "this movie is for fans, so shut up"
Even if the fans intelligence is questionable.
I hope this man's great use of logic doesn't go beyond the walls of tv/show or else he's going to explode with how illogical this reality (as in how our society is ran) is. It's a deep rabbit hole that some days I wish I hadn't gone down but then again I'd rather not lap up bullshit!
You mean this reality? The one we're in right now? I don't know man, I haven't ever tried to butter my toast and found that the knife disappeared out of my hand all of a sudden.
Honestly, as long as you enjoy something who gives a shit if its bad
Some people are really weak and need to hear their opinion echoed back to feel confident in what they're consuming.
When they flip their shit so much at criticism, I wonder if they even really ACTUALLY LIKE the thing they're shrilling for, that maybe deep down they DO feel disappointed but for some reason they're in denial and prefer making asses of themselves to not admit it. Almost like being in a toxic relationship with bad media. lol Just stop defending it if you know it sucks and doesn't even entertain you that much.
I like watching Flubber, The Swan Princess, Space Truckers, Batman & Robin and a few others regardless of their poor writing or how they got critically received.
Saying "whataboutism" is pretty dangerous considering comparing 2 similar situations, especially via pointing out inconsistency or hypocrisy in behavior is important to be able to do especially from a critical or counter-critical perspective. Ultimately saying "whataboutism fallacy" is incorrect and you should just simply respond with "what about it" and then break it down from their if the individual is inappropriately making the comparison
You are gay and also black.
@@natedigger5678 that's pretty neat. I never realized.
Movies all suck except for The Iron Giant. This is not up for debate.
Yes. I have seen so many people use 90% of these defenses, and it pisses me off so much. The only one you forgot was "Well, your video is incredibly long, so it's just meaningless rambling."
3:44 Must have been a HiTop Films sock account.
4:33 LOL some twitter user is the last person I want to hear this from considering how easily people there go into fits of outrage for no good reason
Otherwise known as: A Summary of Film Twitter
Bit late, but the best example of a movie that was terrible and also sold out was Sharknado. If money spent to see the movie equals the movie is the greatest movie of all time, than Sharknado is just as great as a success as the Twitter mob claim the Last Jedi to be.
In all fairness though, Sharknado is better than the Last Jedi. It is in the "its so bad its good" category of films.
little mauler you earned my sub. bring me another! *smashes mug*
I agree with you.
hope you keep posting more videos
Bro i bed Madvocate is based. im hooked
0:34 “Dir”
i love your videos
2:22 you should have just said that you can’t know surely if a movie is bad if you haven’t seen it, that’s why box office numbers don’t matter instead of what you actually said here, it would have been more straight forward and more objective
Average defense for the Fallout show
i find it mindnumbingly insulting that this video implies that The Long Haul was better than the original trilogy ;_;
Wait what, how?
Nah, he used it as an example of something newnot being an improvement
this guy sounds like if nerrel did videos on movies
Weasel batches clone
You sound fed up
0:37 That's because Snyder and his fans are pretentious. "He made a Jesus reference with Superman. That's so deep and not at all something writers have done for decades before Snyder made Man of Steel and BVS to the point people are sick of it."
Wait isn’t my choice if bad written fights ruin a show for me or not I love flash season 1-2 the fights matter but not that much at least to me
1:36 I agree but I wouldn't use the word "objective" though I would just use words like well made and poorly made
IMO it makes it hard to take anyone who uses the word seriously anymore with how much it's lost its meaning
@@tahaqamar5507 objective has a meaning, look up the definition, people just use it wrong
@@dkimandi yeah my comment was badly worded. I mean people use the word objective incorrectly so frequently that it has begun to lost its meaning
I guess you could say that there is “objectively” no meaning to the word anymore.
@@BerserkerGoji9973 no you can't, just becuase some people use it badly doesn't mean objectivity doesn't have a definition
What's the Star Wars game on background?
Halo 3
@@marvelousball Darth Maul is in Halo 3 😳
this was the OG battlefront 2 but you can add mods to turn it into halo tho XD
Hello I would like to know what game 2:50 is
1:00 what's this game called?
The original Battlefront two
@@rebeccalassetter1726 Thanks
I only use numbers to defend it not my opinion
Why always start a discussion its a difference if the movie is good or if you just like it I mean the new star wars movies may be not that good but i still like them even though I can understand why people dont like them
My opinions ( based ) your opinions ( cringe )
There is also the obligatory drawing
Hassan adi
The bloke just basically said “objective opinion” seriously.
I dont even know what to say, mate.
I'd say there's an objective way to see and critique movies. Its what critics have done for decades
"Critics are not infallibale gods". In fairness, MauLer is probably as close as you could get to that ideal. I've yet to see a single video where he is wrong about the overall argument. He gets small things wrong from time to time, but his arguments are nearly impenetrable.
Avatar. That's pretty much it. And I don't think he even saw the show.
@@jcore0981 I love Avatar, and even I think most of MauLer's points are valid. He did concede after talking to E;R and LitDev that the shows not as bad as he originally thought, but it was still not the amazing masterpiece everyone thought it was.
Even when I didn't pay attention to media I knew how stupid the magic deus ex machina rock was during the final battle.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Yes it is. I can't think of a single valuable criticism he brought up. The rock really is not that big of a contrivance to completely strip away three seasons of excellent quality.
There's some moments like that Arrival debate and the weird superhero trolley argument they had with Jay where I felt they were being really dumb and moving the goalposts
@@jcore0981 One of the valid points is how Sokka never realized that his invasion plan might've been compromised. Think about it, Sokka knows that the Kyoshi Warriors are in the Earth Kingdom. Later, he sees that Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee have disguised themselves as Kyoshi Warriors. At no point does it cross Sokka's mind that Suki and her friends might've been captured or killed until waaaay later. King Kuei also never bothered to tell the Gaang that he might've spilled some information and that they should abandon the plan as the Fire Nation would've been prepared for the invasion.
The above point also creates issues with the Suki/Sokka ship. Sokka is incredibly callous (not intentionally) with Suki. It took near the end of the series for Sokka to acknowledge her whereabouts. Doubly problematic when Sokka states that he gathered friends from their adventures to aid in the invasion yet no line of dialogue is given for why he didn't ask the Kyoshi Warriors for help. Sokka only managed to rescue her through sheer convenience as she could've been sent any prison in the Earth Kingdom or worst, executed by Azula.
This point that MauLer brings up is valid and it's a big problem in the narrative as 1/6th of the story wouldn't happened if the characters realized this. There are problems MauLer failed to point out, like how Ozai razing the Earth Kingdom is cartoonishly evil and stupid.
The sequel trilogy is garbage, it destroyed luke skywalker and star wars as a whole, thank god for the mandalorian and the other new shows saving it!
Ummm, Mando was ok to bad while Boba has been wack so far.
Idk man let’s be real. We just pick apart anything. Who REALLY noticed the disappearing knife and like the throne guards spinning 3 times on their first watch. Like cmon on.
Why diss something for having something that almost every movie has. Plot armor. It’s only BIG because hated series has it.
Lmao it’s actually kinda funny. Like of all things to nitpick about the last Jedi they grasp at straws like the tiny little knife
Like cmon I can understand complaining about actual plot issues or the boring casino storyline but still.
Nitpicking definition: "giving too much attention to details that are not important, especially as a way of criticizing".
If Ray was stabbed by the knife, the rest of the movie would have played differently. Since it would have such a great effect on the plot if it happened, criticizing it isn't a nitpick.
The only, literally ONLY, good points you make are about critics and box office not equaling value. Everything else you state - especially abusing the word "objective" without actually knowing what it means/using it properly - is false.
Of course, you pull out a strawman at the beginning of the video, so why should I expect any intelligence or cleverness from you in the first place?
How does he abuse it tell me how he got the meaning of objective wrong. How is pulling a straw man out have anything to do with intelligence. How about this you don't explain what he got wrong or how he got anything wrong so I shouldn't expect any intelligence from you.
Explain 1 inaccurate thing Madvocate said.
it's called whataboutism not whataboutism fallacy It is a variation of the tu quoque fallacy though so maybe you mixed that up.
EDIT: Also Objectively terrible is nonsense. Bad is a judgement, it's subjective by it's nature.
Whataboutism is still a fallacious argument. As for bad being a judgement, therefore making it subjective. A judgement isn't necessarily subjective. For example, if you want to critique a fight scene, you will have a list of criterias it does or doesnt meet, and that would be objectively true if it meets those criterias or not. Like if a fight scene was to be ober the top, and didnt make sense physically, then that would be objectively unrealistic. The realism would depend on what kind of world it is set up in, making it unrealistic or realistic within its own context, but within that context it would be objectively realistic or unrealistic. There are other criterias to judge by objectively also, this is one of them.
@@rainbow0027 It is still called whataboutism, not whataboutism fallacy...
A judgement is necessarily subjective. There's a big difference between a fight scene failing to meet criteria compared to that failure meeting criteria being considered bad.
Realistic vs unrealistic is not good vs bad.
@@BlueEyesWhiteTeddy Saying that something is objectively bad is most definitely sensical. You literally just explained exactly why, yet you're still trying make a case for the opposite being true. What the fuck are you on?
@@joseacosta1851 I made the case for objectively bad being nonsensical. If you cannot understand that, that's not my problem.
@@rainbow0027 Cmon how can you not see the problem with your own argument."Over the top" is subjective .I might believe that James Bond can beat up 5 guys at the same time while a pro fighter will die of laughter watching that."Breaking the laws of physics" is not gonna mean the same thing for you and Brian Cox.Even though laws are the same your knowledge of them isnt.
It's not bad to like a terrible movie or show. But it is very weird to ignore/deny how bad the product is in spite of how much you like it.
I think people confuse critism with unnecessary hate. Just because I can point out that there are problems with a show or movie doesn't mean I don't like it and doesn't necessarily make it bad. I can enjoy things and still admit there's problems with it
It's because people think nowadays anything that's criticism towards a movie/show they like = hating on the movie/show for no reason but just to hate it and be a dick. When there is a statement that has been said millions of times but people seem to keep forgetting "You can like something but criticize its flaws" for example I love the MCU a lot but ik there is a lot of shit that people can criticize about it. But that doesn't give me the right to pretend like the MCU is a flawless piece of cinema that doesn't have any plot holes, bad/boring movies, bad changes from the comics, etc.
what do you mean by "ignore how bad the product is" ? like idc how bad the product I like is. i can acknowledge it sure. but I'm not gonna be talking about how bad it is everytime I talk about it.
@@weirdo3116 They mean how people like shows/movies that are very hated or bad like the CW Flash or MOS - Shazam! for the DCEU for example. You can like them of course its not illegal to do so, BUT denying any flaws or bad things in it that people criticize or make fun of just because you like it is super ignorant. There is nothing wrong with enjoying something like a movie/show but also pointing out the flaws it has.
@@weirdo3116 I agree 100%. You don't need to go out of your way to point outs its flaws in every conversation. that would get very annoying very quickly.
Every (Insert fandom) defending a franchise
My hero Academia
@@christopherchilaka6009 lmfao.
I hate when characters do nothing the whole series but have power to do so, they don't prep for the final boss but win anyway, their personal problems are solved without their effort. Ugh
MCU Stans on Twitter
Me for MCU till phase 3...
I'm so happy I don't have Twitter and never will...
Based
Twitter is only good at hentai and porn, nothing more, nothing less.
You're missing out
@@alan62036 and there's nothing wrong with that. I've learned to beat the shit out of FOMO, I would rather miss out than spend my brain being fucked by minidoses of dopamine every fucking microsecond by mindlessly scrolling through crappy tweets.
Same here
Dude please make more videos depicting the ridiculously bad writing in popular media this is the type of content that I live for. I've discussed bad writing with multiple people about tv shows/movies that I *REALLY* wanted to like, but just couldn't due to its many inconsistencies and illogical plot. Just saw the "fLaSh" videos and you got an instant sub. Keep it up bro
Oh yeah same here dude I'd love more content like this
Not sure if you know already, but this guy has been on a podcast called EFAP with people who are also very good at this type of content. All the EFAP episodes and the individuals related to it are good to check out
There's this one that always makes me laugh really hard... The one where they imply that if you're not in the profession yourself then you have no right to criticize the people in it and their work at all.
Can you imagine someone telling you that you cannot criticize a government because you are not a politician yourself? That's pretty much the logic behind it.
Imagine finding out your dads heart surgery was botched and they put his heart where his stomach should be. And when you get mad one of the nurses says you can't say shit because you don't have a medical degree. It's funny how we can criticize food from chefs even if we aren't chefs, but can't do it for films
Same thing for going to a restaurant and eating something that tastes like shit.
YOU DON'T LIKE IT?!?!!?? THEN YOU MUST BE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER YOURSELFFF1!!!!
If I and the rest of the consumer base of a product don’t like the product, _our opinion should matter most._ If you’re not making money, you should be going out of business, so make the people giving you money happy gosh darn it!
I have been told that many times actually
Some people just don’t think
Surprised you didn’t find any tweets accusing you of having to be “spoon fed” just because you think something didn’t explain itself good enough.
I was accused of that by a Zack Snyder fan recently. The fact that Snyder felt like he had to explain his DC films years after they came out shows he didn't do a good job of explaining the plot in the films themselves. But a Snyder fanboy thought me wanting any explanation meant I was somehow an idiot who needed every trivial detail explained to me.
@@Xehanort10 same, and I stop argue with any Snyder fan, not worth it
@@Xehanort10 Snyder cultists always do that with the Martha scene it's ao pathetic
@@pats3212 They go on about how it was intended to be Batman realising Superman was innocent and had a family and that he'd be like his parents killer if he killed him. But it comes off more like he's angry that his mother isn't the only woman in the world called Martha and wants to kill Superman for it. On another video this dumbass said that Christopher Nolan and James Cameron were inspired by Zack Snyder even though they've been in filmmaking before he ever was. Hell when James Cameron started out in 1978 Snyder was only 12. Any film not made by Snyder is somehow ripping him off in his fans minds. They'd probably say the likes of Alfred Hitchcock, Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, John Carpenter and the like time travelled forward to rip him off or something.
The Martha thing is perfectly reasonable and I truly believe you'd have to be an idiot to not understand it after 5+ years.
Moral of the story: don't be a brain dead consoomer and use common sense.
Aot ending Defenders in a nutshell
Lol
Especially Eremikas
@@dostoevsky8530 Attack on Titan. It was a masterpiece until the author made the worst ending in history just so he could please his dumb fans (Ending Defenders)
@@deathcart4446 dam I love AOT and I avoided the spoilers, but is it really that bad?
@@thebean6496 Yeah and what made it worse is that after the last chapter, Isayama added more extra pages which completely made the whole sacrifice in the last arc and the series meaningless. What's the point of it? It made me regret reading AoT even more.
The more I hear "arguments" like this, the more I'm convinced they're just PR-driven stealth adbots. They repeat them enough times, they get some real people repeating them too, until the real people are more well-programmed than the bots.
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