So far - The best Beatles 2023 release (unofficially - regardless). This show is a revelation of how they can riff hard as a band for ONE HOUR during that era.
Hi Joe. I went to the British Library July 10th and listened to the recording on headphones in a reading room. You can imagine sitting listening to the greatest band ever while observing library rules! I agree with you that the excitement of the concert comes over really well and it's great to hear the crowd shouting out requests. It's a very special recording to get a sense of the excitement and energy. I especially loved Anna and Hippy Hippy Shake.
Subjectively, what is fascinating about the Stowe School concert is that as it is an anomaly showing The Beatles as a live performing band before they developed what has been known and accepted for sixty years now as their "live act", a thirty minute performance featuring twelve songs that rarely deviated from promoting their singles performed to an audience more interested in seeing them than hearing them. In contrast the Stowe School performance finds The Beatles performing a set that in composition is in line with what would be heard on stage a decade later once the rock concert itself became an art form. While I'm not arguing that this performance should be used to convince audiences that The Beatles used the stage to transform their music in the way that lauded live performers such as James Brown, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty or The Grateful Dead did throughout their careers, the Stowe School recording does clearly add new context to The Beatles as performers heard unrestrained from the limitations that both technology and circumstance would place upon them as their fame and audience grew.
hi joe, this sounds like a really interesting performance! hopefully it will be made comercially available sometime so that we all can check it out. have never been aware of this concert or heard about it before, thanks for sharing this good news! take care, rob
I remember reading about this the day it came out in the news and then posting about it on one of your videos. I had actually completely forgotten about it to my embarrassment so haven't heard it yet. Thanks for giving your review of it.
This recording with the new software i believe will clean up well. Forget how it sounds now. The software by Peter Jackson's team is amazing and will do wonders. Good subject, Joe. Thank you for good dialog.
@@urasam2 From what I have read, it is also a "learning system" that allows them to teach the computer what a guitar sounds like, what a bass sounds like, what a voice sounds like.
Heard it and find it fantastic. A better and a longer concert as all the concerts after theire breakthough. Over 60min and that would be the best Thing Peter Jackson can do. A cleaned Version with hearable Bass from Paul. That would be the ultimate AI Thing and it would be christmas/ easter all together. Man ,would that be great😊
@@MeanMrMayo Indeed George Harrison was ill which is why he is not vocally evident during this performance. If he hadn't taken ill, the set would've likely contained "Chains" and "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" the latter of which was his showcase at the time of this concert and one that was anticipated by his fans (remember even as early as '63 there were "John fans", "Paul fans" etc.) George being unavailable forced The Beatles to pivot to material that was not usually included in their set such as Ann Margret's "I Just Don't Understand" as well as a reprise of "I Saw Her Standing There". Interestingly, Gerry And The Pacemakers' most recent hit "How Do You Do It?" is called out as an audible at one point, ostensibly due to fan who mistakenly thought it was a Beatles single unless he happened to hear it when it was a part of The Beatles' set some months earlier. On another note, George's absence was also felt earlier in the day when The Beatles recorded an episode of the BBC Radio Programme "Easy Beat" at the Paris Theatre in London. Again it was the troublesome "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" that cropped up as one of the songs to be performed but without George available, The Beatles chose to pivot to the song's b-side, a song they had penned but chosen to donate to Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas: I'll Be On My Way.
AI can seperate the instruments and vocals. It can't do anything about the quality of the recording. If it's a poor recordings, it's a poor recording. Demixing the recording will give sound engineers more flexibilty to clean up the sound. But don't get too excited because this lo-fi recording will forever be lo-fi.
I thought this was interesting win it came out and I did like it!! I sure would like to see it come out on Vinyl or CD in better shape!!! I thought that Pette J was going to work on the Star Club one. ? I do hope that it will happen:). See you later Joe!!!
It would be counterintuitive for Apple to release either the Stowe School recording or the Star Club recording to a wide audience. For the over thirty years now they have staunchly refused to deal with non-professional recordings of The Beatles allowing the vast majority of them to pass into the public domain. Additionally we are speaking of the company who spent thirty years battling in court to have the Star Club tapes pulled from shelves, a goal which they finally achieved in 1998 when a judgment was ruled in their favor that returned the tapes to Apple.
Essential listening for Beatles fans. Unfortunately, George had a sore throat that day, so no George vocals. My theory is the kid who recorded the show was right in front of the amps/drums. Unfortunately the PA system was too far away from the microphone.
Hi joe , im wondering if the David moores who contacted Epstein was the same person who inherited the Littlewoods empire and became the chairman of Liverpool football club. He would have been 17 in 63, he died last year. He has a page on wiki.
I’ve heard part of this show and it’s terrible sound quality so apart from the historical elements it would take a lot to improve the sound quality for release
@@MeanMrMayo Thanks for your thoughtful and immediate reply. But while I have your attention, how would you like to start a small Beatles scandal??? Please go back and listen to the opening track of the star club 1962 recording and tell me that that is not fake. That is not the Beatles. Now, please delay your judgment of my sanity until you listen critically to this. There are too many problems with that recording for me to believe it is actually the Beatles. I hope you see what I hear. 😬
@@jorgeb555 Not sure which version of the Star Club album you're referring to, as there are different openings. It's all the Beatles, but at least one track (Be Bop A Lu La) is sung by someone else, I think Horst Fascher (not sure of the spelling). Maybe more than one.
Excellent viewpoint! Agreed about Ringo’s power and energy driving them to the next level..
So far - The best Beatles 2023 release (unofficially - regardless). This show is a revelation of how they can riff hard as a band for ONE HOUR during that era.
Hi Joe. I went to the British Library July 10th and listened to the recording on headphones in a reading room. You can imagine sitting listening to the greatest band ever while observing library rules! I agree with you that the excitement of the concert comes over really well and it's great to hear the crowd shouting out requests. It's a very special recording to get a sense of the excitement and energy. I especially loved Anna and Hippy Hippy Shake.
I saw the photos of that show and heard some if it very interesting what a great piece of history how lucky those teens were.
Subjectively, what is fascinating about the Stowe School concert is that as it is an anomaly showing The Beatles as a live performing band before they developed what has been known and accepted for sixty years now as their "live act", a thirty minute performance featuring twelve songs that rarely deviated from promoting their singles performed to an audience more interested in seeing them than hearing them. In contrast the Stowe School performance finds The Beatles performing a set that in composition is in line with what would be heard on stage a decade later once the rock concert itself became an art form. While I'm not arguing that this performance should be used to convince audiences that The Beatles used the stage to transform their music in the way that lauded live performers such as James Brown, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty or The Grateful Dead did throughout their careers, the Stowe School recording does clearly add new context to The Beatles as performers heard unrestrained from the limitations that both technology and circumstance would place upon them as their fame and audience grew.
Well said. That's something I love about the Star-Club recordings too, to hear them play at length rather than 12 songs/29 minutes.
If I could attend any Beatles concert in 1963, it would be Stowe School, great set list, no screaming.
hi joe, this sounds like a really interesting performance! hopefully it will be made comercially available sometime so that we all can check it out. have never been aware of this concert or heard about it before, thanks for sharing this good news! take care, rob
I would like to see Beatles live at shows school UK that would be nice
Wow can you just imagine! Great Song list! Yes Ringo always kills it! On old 1960's Premier Set with old Beatle logo
I remember reading about this the day it came out in the news and then posting about it on one of your videos. I had actually completely forgotten about it to my embarrassment so haven't heard it yet. Thanks for giving your review of it.
Hi Joe! I have a copy of the concert on CD. I am glad to have it in my collection :)
To complicate matters, in the UK, when they say 'public school', it's actually a private school!
This recording with the new software i believe will clean up well. Forget how it sounds now. The software by Peter Jackson's team is amazing and will do wonders. Good subject, Joe. Thank you for good dialog.
The Peter Jackson software is for demixing, I sincerely doubt it can do much for this tape since there’s so much that just isn’t there to start with
@@urasam2 From what I have read, it is also a "learning system" that allows them to teach the computer what a guitar sounds like, what a bass sounds like, what a voice sounds like.
@@anthonyvigliotti6560 Exactly- that’s what enables you to demix the individual sounds
I have the 2CD of the Stowe tape on the way from Japan… will be interesting to hear this in its full fidelity
Heard it and find it fantastic. A better and a longer concert as all the concerts after theire breakthough. Over 60min and that would be the best Thing Peter Jackson can do. A cleaned Version with hearable Bass from Paul. That would be the ultimate AI Thing and it would be christmas/ easter all together. Man ,would that be great😊
I’m surprised George didn’t have a song or two to sing, yet Ringo gets back-to-back songs. I wonder if George wasn’t well enough to sing that day.
I've heard he was sick.
@@MeanMrMayo Indeed George Harrison was ill which is why he is not vocally evident during this performance. If he hadn't taken ill, the set would've likely contained "Chains" and "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" the latter of which was his showcase at the time of this concert and one that was anticipated by his fans (remember even as early as '63 there were "John fans", "Paul fans" etc.) George being unavailable forced The Beatles to pivot to material that was not usually included in their set such as Ann Margret's "I Just Don't Understand" as well as a reprise of "I Saw Her Standing There". Interestingly, Gerry And The Pacemakers' most recent hit "How Do You Do It?" is called out as an audible at one point, ostensibly due to fan who mistakenly thought it was a Beatles single unless he happened to hear it when it was a part of The Beatles' set some months earlier. On another note, George's absence was also felt earlier in the day when The Beatles recorded an episode of the BBC Radio Programme "Easy Beat" at the Paris Theatre in London. Again it was the troublesome "Do You Want To Know A Secret?" that cropped up as one of the songs to be performed but without George available, The Beatles chose to pivot to the song's b-side, a song they had penned but chosen to donate to Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas: I'll Be On My Way.
AI can seperate the instruments and vocals. It can't do anything about the quality of the recording. If it's a poor recordings, it's a poor recording. Demixing the recording will give sound engineers more flexibilty to clean up the sound. But don't get too excited because this lo-fi recording will forever be lo-fi.
It's a shame that The Beatles never did proper recordings of the songs "Too Much Monkey Business", "Some Other Guy" and "Hippy Hippy Shake".
At least those BBC versions are recorded well.
I thought this was interesting win it came out and I did like it!! I sure would like to see it come out on Vinyl or CD in better shape!!! I thought that Pette J was going to work on the Star Club one. ? I do hope that it will happen:). See you later Joe!!!
Fingers crossed!
You are so right LOL!!!!
It would be counterintuitive for Apple to release either the Stowe School recording or the Star Club recording to a wide audience. For the over thirty years now they have staunchly refused to deal with non-professional recordings of The Beatles allowing the vast majority of them to pass into the public domain. Additionally we are speaking of the company who spent thirty years battling in court to have the Star Club tapes pulled from shelves, a goal which they finally achieved in 1998 when a judgment was ruled in their favor that returned the tapes to Apple.
mmm Yes, a good point!!!
Essential listening for Beatles fans. Unfortunately, George had a sore throat that day, so no George vocals. My theory is the kid who recorded the show was right in front of the amps/drums. Unfortunately the PA system was too far away from the microphone.
He placed a microphone in front of the stage, and there was a loudspeaker at each side of the stage, so the sound is mostly focused on the drums
Yay! Ringo gets to shine!
@@MeanMrMayo 😂 absolutely!
Hi joe , im wondering if the David moores who contacted Epstein was the same person who inherited the Littlewoods empire and became the chairman of Liverpool football club.
He would have been 17 in 63, he died last year. He has a page on wiki.
I believe that's correct
Hippy Shake on Star club bootleg but you all knew that.
I’ve heard part of this show and it’s terrible sound quality so apart from the historical elements it would take a lot to improve the sound quality for release
A bit irresponsible of you to not mention “Money” is only 30 seconds and is where the tape likely ran out. Makes me wonder if you even listened. #boo
Sorry! I scanned it. Heard way enough to make an honest assessment of sound, performances, mistakes, etc.
@@MeanMrMayo Thanks for your thoughtful and immediate reply.
But while I have your attention, how would you like to start a small Beatles scandal???
Please go back and listen to the opening track of the star club 1962 recording and tell me that that is not fake. That is not the Beatles.
Now, please delay your judgment of my sanity until you listen critically to this. There are too many problems with that recording for me to believe it is actually the Beatles. I hope you see what I hear. 😬
@@jorgeb555 Not sure which version of the Star Club album you're referring to, as there are different openings. It's all the Beatles, but at least one track (Be Bop A Lu La) is sung by someone else, I think Horst Fascher (not sure of the spelling). Maybe more than one.