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What you said about wanting to live in the flashbacks-- I remember when season 1 came out, I actually watched it multiple times because I loved how fun and magical those episodes were. I didn't rewatch season 2, however, not because it was bad. I think it's just as good, just in a different, more painful and mature way lol. Season 1 feels like childhood and season 2 feels like needing to grow up way too quickly if that makes sense.
45:27 THANK YOU!!! IVE BEEN SAYING THIS. HE WANTED TO LEAVE BC HE WASN’T FEELING GOOD MENTALLY AND SHE CREATED A WHOLE BREAK UP. AND THEN LATER SHES LIKE “CONRAD BROKE UP WITH ME” AND IM LIKE “WHEN DID HE BRING IT UP?”
Conrad and Belly are peak avoidant and anxious avoidant people together. When the avoidant person shuts down, the anxious person turns avoidant and lashes out.
it’s not that i don’t GET conrad it’s just the love triangle that’s making me pick the best option and it’s just it’s not the right time in my opinion i understand him wanting to keep everything in but clearly that didn’t work and hasn’t been working since the first season and i love angsty miscommunication too but not with my comfort summer show. sunshine boy for life!
I feel so bad for Stephen. No one thought he had a right to grieve over Susannah. Conrad and Jeremiah never thought to talk him during that whole time. It just felt like Belly hogged all of their attention. I get Stephen wasn’t the best last season, but he needed help and someone to talk to too and everyone just gave him grief. Also me: shipped not only him and Taylor, but him with Conrad.
me during the whole prom thing : belly let him talk he obviously doesn't want to be there, it's your junior prom and he's about to finish his first year of college he probably doesn't like the environment and you have prom next year, and one more thing his mom is getting worse and has a million of other things on his mind just let him catch his breath 😅😅😅
Amazing how people can watch art and have two totally different opinions. Imo Jere and Belly's relationship is way better cause it's natural. The conversations aren't awkward and they make each other better. That's why I'm team Jelly. Jere's personality is making people around him feel better. But Belly likes heartache so Conrad and Belly is probably endgame.
exactly. jere are belly know how to communicate and they KNOW each other (their esp and the fact they can read each others minds). jelly will always be my endgame even though i know how bad it’ll get for me in s3 i just can’t get over belly and jere’s relationship. the winning couple in my eyes!! ❤
while i understood jeremiah and how he felt abandoned by bellie esp once susannah got really sick but like belly mentions that she had tried reaching out to jer and he kept ignoring her messages like there’s only so much she can do, she can’t be there for you if you don’t let her
I’ve been waiting for this!!! At the end when you said “I’m gonna need 3-5 business days to process all that” …seriously though 😅 what an emotional roller coaster season 2 was
I just want to add a perspective that I've not heard many people bring up (or any at all?) - I'm the eldest sibling in my family and I totally get the pressure of wanting to protect your younger siblings (I'm also SA Asian so there is that expectation from parents too) BUT for me as a person, I've also always felt that it is not any person's right to assume what is 'best' for another person while leaving that other in the dark. Now I do feel that there are exceptions to this however I don't think that is the case here between Conrad & Jeremiah - they are both very close in age so close in fact that they're basically the same age, and as an older sibling I would have felt that my sibling (especially one who's basically my own age, it would be different if they were really young) deserves the chance to spend as much time as possible with our mum who may be dead very soon should they wish to do that after they had all the info. I think a lot of it is less to do with being selfless on Conrad's part and more to do with him being young and actually struggling to cope with the info himself. I point that out becuase a lot of people seem to conflate Conrad withholding info as some sort of selfless thing whereas I see it as just a young, introverted person struggling to handle their emotions. I say this all now as a 33 year old and with a great deal of hindsight 😅 Just my two pennies (I'm a Brit lol)
31:30 i disagree with your point because it isn't about being a saviour. It's being there for your best friend even though the situation between you is completely fucked up. No matter what is going on between my friends and me, whenever shit goes down we are there even if we hate our guts at that moment
OK so I side with Belly on the breakup lol I know Conrad is deeply depressed with all that is happening and I empathize of course but if he doesn't LET HER be there for him then he's hurting her too. You cannot help ppl who aren't ready to ask for help, so the healthy thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. She was right to break up with him bc she wasn't helping him, in fact she was causing him EVEN MORE stress bc he agonized over not being able to be a good boyfriend to her.
Except that, in that moment, there was nothing that she could’ve helped him with. And he did ask to go somewhere with her, but she outright declined. He even said let’s go somewhere to talk. So your reasoning of saying if you don’t ask for help, you’re hurting the feelings of others doesn’t apply. She was unwilling to leave but also objected him leaving by himself. we don’t know what he would have asked for or said. we will never know because she says no, let’s just stay here.
The thing is Conrad just says he'll take care of everything but he just broods and doesn't do shit, when his mom needed help, Jeremiah was the one who actually took care of her, when the house needed saving, he still ended up needing Jeremiah and Belly's mom Not only he's bad at communication and bottles everything up, he's incompetent as an older sibling who assures everyone he'll take care of it
Last one. I am not a fan of the father and I understand the importance of saving the house. But I feel their father felt like he rather have them being taken care of and have money for a rainy day, especially if he is no longer there to provide for them, instead of spending it all on a house no one can afford. I get the memories are important, but if no one can afford the maintenance of the house and they don’t want to rent or sublet it, what is the point?
this is such a good reaction, i forgot some of the things that happened already. and i'm not sure i'll be watching season 3 after seeing spoilers of what happens in the book...damn
I don’t hate Conrad. I just don’t like him as a partner. It feels he needs to figure himself and his stuff out first. I also hate that he finally gets Belly and he just goes on a downward spiral. People grieve differently, but Conrad acted, sometimes that he was the only one who went through something when Jeremiah was with their mom the entire time. He couldn’t just let Belly in so they can grieve together.
Team Jeremiah forever! It’s not even a contest. Him and Belly are so much better together in every way. Steven and Conrad both annoyed the hell out of me this season. I honestly couldn’t stand Steven by the last episode. So I’ll be curious to see what your opinion is of them by the end. My biggest problem with Conrad, and it’s one I’ve had with him the entire show, is that he doesn’t communicate. It’s so frustrating to watch. He keeps everything to himself, tries to handle everything on his own (for no reason), and acts like a dick, but then blames everyone around him when they get angry at him for it. Conrad needs therapy, because he doesn’t know how to handle situations correctly in a way that’s healthy. A month after losing their mother, Conrad ditches school right before finals and doesn’t tell anyone. Then when Jeremiah calls and texts him super worried about him, he doesn’t even have the decency to respond and let him know that he’s ok, even though he was capable of texting his roommate about school. That’s such an incredibly selfish thing to do. During prom, I seriously don’t get why Conrad just didn’t tell Belly he wasn’t in the right mindset to take her. That’s literally all he had to do, and she would’ve understood. Instead, he had to ruin her night for no reason. Honestly Conrad should’ve never started to date Belly in the first place. She might be good for him, but he is clearly not good for her. During the funeral scene, both Belly and Conrad’s behavior was bad. However, Conrad has a habit of using people’s insecurities against them on purpose in fights, to really dig deep (also demonstrated later in the season), and it’s awful. Him saying “I knew it was a mistake starting something with you” to Belly was really vile. He knew that would hurt her the most and that’s why he said it. I have a lot more I can say about Conrad, and why he bothers me, but I’ll save that for later in the season. I don’t hate him either, I’m just not a fan of his a lot of the time.
I disagree i think belly shouldn't have gotten with Jere knowing she still liked conrad and Conrad shouldn't have played with Belly's feelings and then doing a 180 when he knew she was now kinda with Jere like what😭
Jeremiah using the “my mom has cancer” pisses me off so bad. He’s just trying to guilt trip Belly and like she’s just supposed to do whatever he wants because his mom is sick?
Im pretty sure thats not what he meant. It was pretty manipulative, but Belly kissing Conrad was terrible timing. He just found out his mother is dying and on top of that, Belly led him on saying ‘Im over Conrad’ ‘I chose Jeremiah’, then going and kissing his brother days later. He never said she has to do whatever he wants cuz his mom’s dying bruh💀
I’m Team Jeremiah as an individual lmaooo. I’m an anti-Belly person. She is the problem lol. I’m watching the show for Skye and Cameron at this point 😂 And I’m a girl who refuses to get it about Conrad 🙄 he annoys me so bad 😂
ksksksks kinda same. I get it with Conrad but I don't think that it excuses everything he does. Not to mention it's hypocritical how he can get the sympathy and pass while Jeremiah is required to have voodo powers and figure out what's in everyone's minds so he won't be "annoying" with his anger
About defending an older sibling, I have a very different kinda opinion. Cuz I am an older sibling too, with 2 younger brothers, and lost my 1st younger brother end of last year,( he is alive), but he left the family (I don't think I can elaborate more on that tho). I as an older sibling did have the burden of looking after everyone and holding things in, but many people still tend to look upon the fact that younger siblings, although most of the time seem care free, holds much more burden in them. And my brother was a JEREMIAH now that I look at it. He was the life of our family, but never did anyone know he had so many things bottled up in him. Just because someone is younger, doesn't mean everything's easier for them. And I still blame myself, cuz I couldn't see what he was going through any sooner. That is why I hate it when people misundertand what JERE is going through, just because the way they portray that CONRAD is going through stuff is way more opaque than how they do it with JERE. Guys please always look after the HAPPY people around you, 🙏 cuz they might be going through something wayyyyy more depressing and painful.
Correction he knew Steven told him at the party So he. Had. A hint Plus Belly road home with Jer Conrad told Belly a not so when he said Jer was fine Moral of the story is you can😅 take Conrad and the rest of us take Jeremiah You Conrad fans will never be the same if your ship does not sail We will throw you a life wrath ❤
daria, you have no idea how happy i am you get to watch this with us!!! 🤍 I NEVER MOVED ON. thank you so much :)) ps.: you look so pretty! happy that you had a good time these past months
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What you said about wanting to live in the flashbacks-- I remember when season 1 came out, I actually watched it multiple times because I loved how fun and magical those episodes were. I didn't rewatch season 2, however, not because it was bad. I think it's just as good, just in a different, more painful and mature way lol. Season 1 feels like childhood and season 2 feels like needing to grow up way too quickly if that makes sense.
45:27 THANK YOU!!! IVE BEEN SAYING THIS. HE WANTED TO LEAVE BC HE WASN’T FEELING GOOD MENTALLY AND SHE CREATED A WHOLE BREAK UP. AND THEN LATER SHES LIKE “CONRAD BROKE UP WITH ME” AND IM LIKE “WHEN DID HE BRING IT UP?”
Conrad and Belly are peak avoidant and anxious avoidant people together. When the avoidant person shuts down, the anxious person turns avoidant and lashes out.
I waited so long for this that i actually forgot it didn’t happen 😂😂😂😭 what a great suprised dariel 💗💗
it’s not that i don’t GET conrad it’s just the love triangle that’s making me pick the best option and it’s just it’s not the right time in my opinion i understand him wanting to keep everything in but clearly that didn’t work and hasn’t been working since the first season and i love angsty miscommunication too but not with my comfort summer show. sunshine boy for life!
I feel so bad for Stephen. No one thought he had a right to grieve over Susannah. Conrad and Jeremiah never thought to talk him during that whole time. It just felt like Belly hogged all of their attention.
I get Stephen wasn’t the best last season, but he needed help and someone to talk to too and everyone just gave him grief.
Also me: shipped not only him and Taylor, but him with Conrad.
Like as friends or as a couple??? 👀
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me during the whole prom thing : belly let him talk he obviously doesn't want to be there, it's your junior prom and he's about to finish his first year of college he probably doesn't like the environment and you have prom next year, and one more thing his mom is getting worse and has a million of other things on his mind just let him catch his breath 😅😅😅
Amazing how people can watch art and have two totally different opinions. Imo Jere and Belly's relationship is way better cause it's natural. The conversations aren't awkward and they make each other better. That's why I'm team Jelly. Jere's personality is making people around him feel better. But Belly likes heartache so Conrad and Belly is probably endgame.
Thank you! This is exactly how I feel too
exactly. jere are belly know how to communicate and they KNOW each other (their esp and the fact they can read each others minds). jelly will always be my endgame even though i know how bad it’ll get for me in s3 i just can’t get over belly and jere’s relationship. the winning couple in my eyes!! ❤
while i understood jeremiah and how he felt abandoned by bellie esp once susannah got really sick but like belly mentions that she had tried reaching out to jer and he kept ignoring her messages like there’s only so much she can do, she can’t be there for you if you don’t let her
I’m a hard core shipper of Conrad and Belly
Don’t forgot the Pride and Prejudice hand flex by my boy Conrad at 8:44 !
I’ve been waiting for this!!! At the end when you said “I’m gonna need 3-5 business days to process all that” …seriously though 😅 what an emotional roller coaster season 2 was
most anticipated video of the year has dropped!! 🎉
I just want to add a perspective that I've not heard many people bring up (or any at all?) - I'm the eldest sibling in my family and I totally get the pressure of wanting to protect your younger siblings (I'm also SA Asian so there is that expectation from parents too) BUT for me as a person, I've also always felt that it is not any person's right to assume what is 'best' for another person while leaving that other in the dark. Now I do feel that there are exceptions to this however I don't think that is the case here between Conrad & Jeremiah - they are both very close in age so close in fact that they're basically the same age, and as an older sibling I would have felt that my sibling (especially one who's basically my own age, it would be different if they were really young) deserves the chance to spend as much time as possible with our mum who may be dead very soon should they wish to do that after they had all the info. I think a lot of it is less to do with being selfless on Conrad's part and more to do with him being young and actually struggling to cope with the info himself. I point that out becuase a lot of people seem to conflate Conrad withholding info as some sort of selfless thing whereas I see it as just a young, introverted person struggling to handle their emotions. I say this all now as a 33 year old and with a great deal of hindsight 😅
Just my two pennies (I'm a Brit lol)
31:30 i disagree with your point because it isn't about being a saviour. It's being there for your best friend even though the situation between you is completely fucked up. No matter what is going on between my friends and me, whenever shit goes down we are there even if we hate our guts at that moment
Everything you said about ep 3 break up i felt the exact same like what just happened
OH MY GOD!!! NO ONE MOVE. NO ONE!!!!!
OK so I side with Belly on the breakup lol I know Conrad is deeply depressed with all that is happening and I empathize of course but if he doesn't LET HER be there for him then he's hurting her too. You cannot help ppl who aren't ready to ask for help, so the healthy thing to do is remove yourself from the situation. She was right to break up with him bc she wasn't helping him, in fact she was causing him EVEN MORE stress bc he agonized over not being able to be a good boyfriend to her.
Except that, in that moment, there was nothing that she could’ve helped him with. And he did ask to go somewhere with her, but she outright declined. He even said let’s go somewhere to talk. So your reasoning of saying if you don’t ask for help, you’re hurting the feelings of others doesn’t apply. She was unwilling to leave but also objected him leaving by himself. we don’t know what he would have asked for or said. we will never know because she says no, let’s just stay here.
The thing is Conrad just says he'll take care of everything but he just broods and doesn't do shit, when his mom needed help, Jeremiah was the one who actually took care of her, when the house needed saving, he still ended up needing Jeremiah and Belly's mom
Not only he's bad at communication and bottles everything up, he's incompetent as an older sibling who assures everyone he'll take care of it
Team Jeremiah, all day baby
I was team Jeremiah since Day One. So 🤷🤷.
Last one. I am not a fan of the father and I understand the importance of saving the house.
But I feel their father felt like he rather have them being taken care of and have money for a rainy day, especially if he is no longer there to provide for them, instead of spending it all on a house no one can afford.
I get the memories are important, but if no one can afford the maintenance of the house and they don’t want to rent or sublet it, what is the point?
But the house is an investment. Like Jere said they can sell the house if needed later on. So that is not a great excuse
this is such a good reaction, i forgot some of the things that happened already. and i'm not sure i'll be watching season 3 after seeing spoilers of what happens in the book...damn
I don’t hate Conrad. I just don’t like him as a partner. It feels he needs to figure himself and his stuff out first. I also hate that he finally gets Belly and he just goes on a downward spiral.
People grieve differently, but Conrad acted, sometimes that he was the only one who went through something when Jeremiah was with their mom the entire time. He couldn’t just let Belly in so they can grieve together.
Oh no, the three episode drop was absolute torture!
My biggest problem with Jeremiah is that he knew that Conrad and Belly liked each other but he inserted himself into the situation.
23:04 you talking about joey and pacey just gave me +50 of life 🤍 they're MY WORLD and SO BONRAD CODED
Team Jeremiah forever! It’s not even a contest. Him and Belly are so much better together in every way. Steven and Conrad both annoyed the hell out of me this season. I honestly couldn’t stand Steven by the last episode. So I’ll be curious to see what your opinion is of them by the end.
My biggest problem with Conrad, and it’s one I’ve had with him the entire show, is that he doesn’t communicate. It’s so frustrating to watch. He keeps everything to himself, tries to handle everything on his own (for no reason), and acts like a dick, but then blames everyone around him when they get angry at him for it. Conrad needs therapy, because he doesn’t know how to handle situations correctly in a way that’s healthy. A month after losing their mother, Conrad ditches school right before finals and doesn’t tell anyone. Then when Jeremiah calls and texts him super worried about him, he doesn’t even have the decency to respond and let him know that he’s ok, even though he was capable of texting his roommate about school. That’s such an incredibly selfish thing to do.
During prom, I seriously don’t get why Conrad just didn’t tell Belly he wasn’t in the right mindset to take her. That’s literally all he had to do, and she would’ve understood. Instead, he had to ruin her night for no reason. Honestly Conrad should’ve never started to date Belly in the first place. She might be good for him, but he is clearly not good for her. During the funeral scene, both Belly and Conrad’s behavior was bad. However, Conrad has a habit of using people’s insecurities against them on purpose in fights, to really dig deep (also demonstrated later in the season), and it’s awful. Him saying “I knew it was a mistake starting something with you” to Belly was really vile. He knew that would hurt her the most and that’s why he said it. I have a lot more I can say about Conrad, and why he bothers me, but I’ll save that for later in the season. I don’t hate him either, I’m just not a fan of his a lot of the time.
THIS !!
I disagree i think belly shouldn't have gotten with Jere knowing she still liked conrad and Conrad shouldn't have played with Belly's feelings and then doing a 180 when he knew she was now kinda with Jere like what😭
Jeremiah using the “my mom has cancer” pisses me off so bad. He’s just trying to guilt trip Belly and like she’s just supposed to do whatever he wants because his mom is sick?
Im pretty sure thats not what he meant. It was pretty manipulative, but Belly kissing Conrad was terrible timing. He just found out his mother is dying and on top of that, Belly led him on saying ‘Im over Conrad’ ‘I chose Jeremiah’, then going and kissing his brother days later. He never said she has to do whatever he wants cuz his mom’s dying bruh💀
I’m Team Jeremiah as an individual lmaooo. I’m an anti-Belly person. She is the problem lol. I’m watching the show for Skye and Cameron at this point 😂
And I’m a girl who refuses to get it about Conrad 🙄 he annoys me so bad 😂
ksksksks kinda same. I get it with Conrad but I don't think that it excuses everything he does. Not to mention it's hypocritical how he can get the sympathy and pass while Jeremiah is required to have voodo powers and figure out what's in everyone's minds so he won't be "annoying" with his anger
I'll always be Team Conrad for life!! I still need to reread book 3 before the third season comes out!!
About defending an older sibling, I have a very different kinda opinion. Cuz I am an older sibling too, with 2 younger brothers, and lost my 1st younger brother end of last year,( he is alive), but he left the family (I don't think I can elaborate more on that tho). I as an older sibling did have the burden of looking after everyone and holding things in, but many people still tend to look upon the fact that younger siblings, although most of the time seem care free, holds much more burden in them. And my brother was a JEREMIAH now that I look at it. He was the life of our family, but never did anyone know he had so many things bottled up in him. Just because someone is younger, doesn't mean everything's easier for them. And I still blame myself, cuz I couldn't see what he was going through any sooner. That is why I hate it when people misundertand what JERE is going through, just because the way they portray that CONRAD is going through stuff is way more opaque than how they do it with JERE. Guys please always look after the HAPPY people around you, 🙏 cuz they might be going through something wayyyyy more depressing and painful.
how did I survive?
I didn’t ship anyone but i watching
Correction he knew
Steven told him at the party
So he. Had. A hint
Plus Belly road home with Jer
Conrad told Belly a not so when he said Jer was fine
Moral of the story is you can😅 take Conrad and the rest of us take Jeremiah
You Conrad fans will never be the same if your ship does not sail
We will throw you a life wrath ❤
She never even told him for her feelings with conrad
I know someone has probably already said this but the song Conrad sings is supposed to sound bad/like that
Conrod forever
daria, you have no idea how happy i am you get to watch this with us!!! 🤍 I NEVER MOVED ON. thank you so much :))
ps.: you look so pretty! happy that you had a good time these past months