Servicing a Soviet Watch Without the Manual! Common Mistakes PLUS a Mysterious EXTRA Part (Solved!)
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2024
- In this video I disassemble my first Soviet-made watch, a Raketa 'TV Dial' men's wristwatch from the late 1970s, featuring their 2609.HA movement.
The video shows some common errors that can affect all hobbyist watchmakers. Through my mis-steps, we both can learn!
During disassembly, I discovered an EXTRA (?) part that no one could identify… and I’ve shared my systematic approach to identifying what it does and where it goes.
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Hi, Mike! Thanks for your new video! Raketa 2609 is known to be a very reliable movement. I have serviced it once so far. It took me a longer time to put the train wheel bridge back, the rest was just an amazing journey through the disassembly and the assembly. I always test all the newly repaired watches, this movement was tested over an extended period of time on my arm and both the precision and the isochronism exceeded my expectations:)) There is an experienced watchmaker here in Russia who says that Raketa movements are the best for a number of objective reasons. 2609 (and its modifications) was designed by Russian engineers from scratch. I do love these movements😊
Thanks for the awesome history lesson, and you get bonus points for using the phrase "isochronism"! 😁 The movement feels very nicely made, and the use of jewels is magnificent, especially given how affordable many of these watches are (here in the US, anyway). I'm glad to hear that it is a reliable timepiece on the wrist. I am looking forward to getting this one as bright and shiny as I can, and getting it on my wrist as well. 👍🏼😎
I’m glad the mystery is solved!! This has happened to me on more than one occasion- usually with tight chronograph sweep hands. Fortunately re-riveting the tube back onto the hand is a simple enough fix. Thanks for sharing!
Hi Chris, in hindsight it seems so obvious! I guess that's the beauty of experience. Now I just have to make sure my memory stays intact. 😂
Very interesting for a beginner like me, keep it coming Mike.
Hi Kevin, thanks for watching! Lots to come in 2024... 😁
Mike, I have a feeling that the Bergeon Presto 4434-9 (Yellow) is intended for crowns, split stem and cannon pinion removal. Now discontinued. That's not to say it can't be used as a hand remover but it may not be ideal for small hands. I enjoy and learn from your streams. Great work.
Hi Tomi, the yellow Presto tool is indeed a multipurpose puller, and may have been too big for the hands on this watch. I should've used the black handled one for the hands! Oh well, this is a learning process. And I enjoy sharing the mistakes along with the successes. Thanks for the nice comments, and for watching! 😁
Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed it and your sleuthing paid off. Hope that you are well.
Hi Victor, thanks for dropping in! All is well, and I'm hoping to return to this project later today. Stay tuned! 😁
We never grow if we never fail. I have a few Pobeda watches from the late 80's and those Russian watches are pretty cool! No worries my tweezer game needs warming up too sometimes haha! My brother had the same theory with my first cellphone. He took it apart and that was the last of it. Thank you for sharing Mike! Hope you have a great weekend!
You're welcome Johan! We enjoy taking apart things that others have put together. Reassembly is a matter of choice. 😁
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Great video. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes, that is how we learn 😊
Thanks Erik! I could not agree more. 👍🏼😎
I just bought a beautiful Raketa.
Hi Philip! So what did you get?
Well Mike, you’re quite the genius!!!! ( and I love your red shirt…😂)
Hi Tom! This was a fun puzzle. 🙈🙉🙊
I like very much this video,Mike.Unchartered territory,very brave.I´m still recovering from my last unchartered territory incursions.Two watches waiting for help.Thank you.
Hi Angel, that's part of the fun! Good luck with your watches. What are you working on?
I mess up one Roskof and one Micro that I think I can fix.Machine shop too.Thank you.@@WatchWithMike
@@angelramos-2005 good luck with those repairs! Have fun with it… The mistakes are learning experiences. 😁
The Raketa (Ракета)2609 movement is the best basic movement. On its basis, the mechanisms 2614 (calendar), 2628 (dual calendar), 2627 (automatic), 2623 (24-hour dial) were built. The cases were made of brass, gold, opals (unique), and wood (unique). The factory ПЧЗ (not a manufactory) still exists in St. Petersburg today.
"H" read "n" - new (Cyrillic)
Thanks Marek! Great info! 😄
@@WatchWithMike I'm just a humble collector.😏
Great video, Mike! In the end do you think that mystery piece was an add-on because of the dial thickness or do you think there was some other reason that they may have used an extension like that?
It seems it would have been easier just to make a longer seconds hand arbor unless the base movements were pre-made and all that they had access to during assembly was the hour hand gear, the cannon pinion, and that extension.
In Swiss movements there are specific version of each movement made called "high hand" movements that have a longer seconds hand arbor and taller hour hand gear and cannon pinion tubes to accommodate pie-pan dials, dials with tall indices, or other thicker dials.
Hi Dayton! That's interesting about how Swiss movements have specific versions for dials that need clearance. This exact Raketa movement is in many different styles of watch, and I think the second hand pivot extension is a great way to adapt it without requiring a dedicated movement version. Looking back, the cannon pinion resembled a center tube because it was proportionately much taller than I am used to seeing, which I now realize was to give it the extra height to clear the thick dial. Manufacturing a bunch of taller cannon pinions and second hand extensions is probably more cost-effective than machining long-pivot wheels and stocking specialized movements.
@@WatchWithMike Yep! it's a hack! BTW, did you know that the word "hack" originates from hacking ones way through a forest with a machete? Hacksaw obviously stems from the same origin, which is a bit closer in meaning than to hack a watch time-setting mechanism to stop the seconds hand - or computer hacking - but hacking all the same! I love all forms of hacking, so I love that hack on the Raketa! The only thing I appreciate more than a design that incorporates hacks is a hack-free final design that is easily hackable!
@@IShootWatches Yes HACK is a fantastic word! I don't consider myself particularly trendy, but I love the phrase "life hack" as used on social media. I suppose having a hacking mentality is a core personality trait of inventors. Always looking for that special hack… 🧨🔨🧲🔥😎
I think it is safe to say it is much better to learn without a manual. 😊
@Daud76 - Yes, I agree, and that's been how I've been doing it. The last watch (Elgin SwisSonic) was actually the first one that I had some documentation - and it was for a different but similar movement. Nothing against manuals, but I enjoy 'sleuthing' how these watches come apart and go together! 😁
@@WatchWithMikecan you please upload a video on how to find those kind of manuals and the dimensions of a watch's part like case
@@aravindharavindh2202 Honestly, I don't have a source, other than searching for it on Google. FWIF, Seiko is the only brand I know of that makes all their service manuals available on their website. Maybe others will join in with suggestions.
thats not a bad movement !! and clocks it took me three weeks to restore my granpas clock still recovering from it !!
This movement is not bad, agreed! But whoever worked on it before me was PURE EVIL! 👿 Oh, the things I found when I dug deeper... Coming soon to a screen near you!
I think, you discovered a model of the classified Russian space station. O_o 🎉⚙️🕐🍸
Lol, well "Raketa" does translate to "Rocket".
@@WatchWithMike Yes. And the double gears look like the space station in 2001. :)
@@NaNByZero I see it now! 😂🤣