I've Never Played Baldur's Gate 3. Can I Guess What Class These Characters Are?
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
- Do what you will but I will never admit that Gale is a wizard. One of the Owlbears, JT, has never played Baldur's Gate 3, because he doesn't have a life. So let's embarrass him and ruthlessly mock him for his ignorance as he tries to guess what classes these characters are!
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“This is the kind of guy who could steal your wife” about Astarion… I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong.
What kind of crap wives you guys have? This whole expression is so nonsense
I remember from Neil Newbon's (his actor) streams a particular quote- "Is that your girlfriend? Not anymore."
@@oceanicGrimalkin I think I saw that 😆
Astarion will not only steal your wife, he will steal you from your wife.
I'm not sure he would try if he was real...Blood is clearly not the only thing Astarion sucks LOL
The second he said Gale had a strong jaw and thick neck and was a brawler, I started cackling.
The squishy bookish-nerd caster as a fighter is hilarious, and I love this whole video.
Shane here, I was trying so hard not to laugh as well when JT started making those comments about Gale. I could just see the "fighter" guess forming, and it took all of my willpower not to laugh
Have you seen Gale naked, though? His physique does not scream 8 STR.
@@wekashipo7507 I'mma make excuses to cope, so forgive me. 🙃
Low fat percentage from eating habits while in isolation for a year and a parasitic entity eating away at him.
(I personally look more fit than I actually am because my eating habits result in me having a low fat percentage, making my underlining muscles stand out more because less fat is covering them.)
Despite complaining about his knees, he keeps up with the party rather well. He's climbing as many twisted vines and cragged rocks as everyone else. Maybe he is more endurance than strength.
...that's all I got. Maybe they just wanted him to look hot. Maybe Mystra wanted his body to fit her preferences.
He's not even the worst offender. My man... Halsin.
(In all honesty, I totally agree and understand why assumptions were made. That's partially why it's funny.)
Y'know if they wanted Gale to read as a Wizard then maybe they shouldn't have designed a character who is 112% a Fighter. Don't blame me for the game devs' mistake
@@HeadDetectiveLassie Halsin is definitely a worse offender.
With Gale, you can chalk it up to either laziness or efficiency, depending on how charitable you want to be.
Every character just uses a default body model, and the male bodies are both absolutely shredded. Gale just has the one that looks less shredded.
With Halsin, it just seems like his stats are completely incongruent with his design inherently. They gave him the "strong" body type, but only 10 STR. No excuse.
9:33 "I can tell by both your faces that Druid is wrong"
That got me laughing.
Using just the headshots is a real handicap. Full body with their default costume would be more fair.
Wouldn't that show the weapons they're holding? That would give away the classes of most of the characters
Karlach, halsin, jaheira, gale would all be quite obvious
@@rustygear447 not of their campfire costumes were used.
The portraits definitely is a poor representation of the characters in my opinion as well. Better to show them in full body, in camp outfits would be fine to not reveal weapons or armour.
@@FireDragons42It’s a tough line to ride. The portraits aren’t enough to go off of necessarily, but full body shots make some of them far too obvious.
Can confirm that bard Astarion works so well! Vicious mockery was made for him lol
that's why i love to multiclass him with some sword-bard. when enemies just have some HP left, he uses vicious mockery to kill them.
Yeah I made him Arcane Trickster as a Rogue and then Multiclassed into a bard and it worked really well.
“IIIM TALKING!🗣️🗣️”
My build is to take 3 levels of bard to get the 2x ranged attack
Can't ever not use one of my two favourite Astarion builds - Ninja (Thief4/OH Monk 8) or Deadshot (Thief4/Gloomstalker 8).
“His charisma’s pretty high” bestie he has 10 CHA
Edit: “ability score doesn’t have to match lore” dude’s got deception proficiency and while he may have lied to people for 200 years, he’s laughably bad at it to the party, who susses him out immediately. You think I didn’t know that?
Truee he just sounds charismatic but it’s just mostly the pickup lines he used in his, uhh, hunts for cazador
Only person with higher charisma has to be cooper from tbe fallout tv show must be 30
Tbf while he is rhetorically strong, he often doesn't care for the feelings of others (or so it seems), so sounds harsh and mean often, which might represent his "lows" on charisma. On the other hand it is just a game value and DnD is kinda limiting on how that is reflected on the character. BG3 does the right thing in seperating the two
Yup and it shows. The man couldn't fool any player for longer than 2 seconds even after practicing for 200 years.....But that's cute so I'd follow him anywhere anyways.☺💀
(No but fr, this whole reverse CHA thing is clearly working and I don't understand why).😅
My head cannon for characters with seemingly out of character stats (shadowhearts intelligence gales strength being lower than a child astarion being as persuasive as a random nobody while being a vampire and a charlatan) for shadowheart repeated mind wipes have given her brain damage making her retain information much harder and learning new information much slower. Astarion is so obviously 2 faced yet charming that you want to listen but would never trust him unless he dropped his glib demeanor. Gales muscles are fake. As in he doesn't actually work out they're made with magic. Or the pain from the orb makes it difficult for him to exert himself to much.
I am not here for the Gale slander 😂 though I can see his reasoning from the headshot 100%, if you show him a 5 second clip of Gale actually moving and talking fighter would go straight out the window 😂
I mean no slander whatsoever lol. We stan a nerd who can beat up the jocks
13:14 Jaheira is a bit intimidating but she’s also one of the biggest jokesters in camp
the fastest way to farm approval with her is roasting her lol
(Shane here) I love Jaheira, she's an underrated companion for sure
Jaheira is Granny Weatherwax.
I always give her a couple of Ranger levels - sure, she's mainly a druid but doesn't wild shape much. And ranger dip fits the Harper scout backstory.
@@molealto I mean in the old games she was a druid/fighter and 5e ranger (and by extension bg3 ranger) is basically just "what if fighter + rogue + druid?"
I feel like he 100% needed full-body shots. Asterion as a bard still probably would have been the call. But Gale in a purple robe? 100% magic user. Karlach is a tall, beefy lady. Would have maybe leaned toward something physical. Halsin maybe would have gotten barbarian too, since he's a big boy. As far as Jaheria goes, I see a character design with half of the hair braided and lots of brown and green on the clothing, I'm instantly thinking druid.
The clothing is sooooooo much a part of the character design.
Full-body would definitely have been easier, and I (Shane) didn't want to make it easy for him. If we could somehow make both videos I would, but he knows the answers now. Hopefully you still enjoyed the hard mode version
@@owlbearodysseys Haha I would have shown full-body of their Camp outfits b/c the casual clothes won't give away the type of armour :)
"Asterion"
To "Boo is very smart". Boo is the brains of the duo. All the brains...
Gotta love Boo
20:30 The Minsc art here is from Baldur's gate 2. Minsc was an extremely popular companion in both Baldur's gate 1 and 2.
Voiced in the first two games by a veteran voice actor Jim Cummings.
Would have been good to use pictures of them in their camp clothes. That way a full body shot could have been given.
I also agree with the comment about guessing cleric for Minthara should have given a partial point. She was a cleric for a long time in early access.
I would have given 0.7 points on Minthara as a cleric, since that was the original plan for her.
J. T. here. Your points mean more than Shane or Marshal so I appreciate it
Shane here, I'll give you partial points for that, too bad partial points don't matter
Minthara… a cleric?????
Just like Karlach was a Paladin for most of Early Access then the fans began vocally begging for her to be a monk or barbarian instead.
@ManubibiWalsh yeah beta Minthara was a cleric, you can see in with her MTG card that uses beta design.
Calling Astarion a bard just made me cackle, with the comments he makes about bards.. 😂
His vicious mockery if you multi-class or respec him is fabulous though
To be fair, I always respec him to Bard
Tbh he ain’t in my party if he ain’t a bard or sorcerer
What comment he makes about bards?..
Karlach is a sweet cinnamon roll who will definitely end you.
One of the best tropes in fiction hands down
4:37 As a married woman who keeps romancing Astarion I feel attacked lol. Very fun video!
Watch out he'll steal your husband
@@feloniousbutterfly as a husband who keeps romancing astarion, im afraid no one is safe
Jaheira used to be fighter/druid in BG1 and 2 (AD&D ruleset multiclass), but in BG3 she starts out as a pure druid.
Minsc was in BG2, in fact one of the first companions you could pick up in the prologue, and that portrait on his second slide is from BG2.
Minsc and Jaheira are both with you at the start of BG2, and I believe the only returning characters from 1. So it's quite fitting that they're both also in the third game.
@@Cabamacadaf There's also Imoen.
@@Norbert_Sattler Ah right, forgot about her. Although she's so tied to the player character of the first two games it makes sense not to include her in 3.
"Yeah, her neck tattoo is a spiderweb" "Oh, she's a member of the Phantom Troupe!" this took me out LOL.
Pretty good reads. Shows the power of character design. If he'd had fullbody images it would have been easier, but I think a few characters might still have tripped him up.
I wish you'd shown him the Dark Urge too :D
I wonder if fullbody pics would have given away too much?
How would a Dark Urge guess work since they don’t have a defined class 🤔
@@taffygiggleberry5248 I just meant Default dark urge, I thought it'd be fun to see him react to a dragonborn character, so the correct guess would be sorcerer
@@baticeer_ ah true, I’d forgotten there was a default!
Gotta build them based off the guesses now
"What class is this owlin woman" made me laugh hard
Fighter gale play through coming up.
I played him as an eldritch knight when I played him as origin and it was super flavorful. Really captures the feeling that his magic was ripped from him and he had to adapt his combat style while he got his real power back.
Could roleplay it as Mystra being so mad at him that she stripped him of all magic
My favourite Minsc factoid is that BG1, which was based off of Second Edition, had minimum anility score requirements for classes. Despite being a ranger, Minsc's Wisdom is not high enough to qualify -- it's 9.
There is, on the optional critical hit tables, a head injury result which permanently halves all your mental stats. (Int, Wis, Cha).
Soon after introducing himself, he brings up that he had a severe head injury in the past.
So he originally had a wisdom of 18???
@@michaelzoller5303 17 or 18, iirc they rounded up.
Someone who doesn't like being in the city but will begrugingly do so is quite on point for Jaheira, she comments every now and then about disliking the cities in the first two Baldurs Gate games.
Minthara's tattoo is not a spiderweb. I was looking into the houses of menzoberanza and found that her neck tattoo is the symbol of her families house
If he guessed barbarian for minsc and/or fighter for Jaheira then I would personally give it to him since I believe that they are both canonically multiclassed. It is just that BG3 has you build up all the characters from level one regardless of what level/stage of the game you recruit them at.
Jaheira feels like a trap, because she canonically a fighter/druid in BG1 and BG2 so her character as a druid is a little weird.
This is why I always drop a couple of Ranger levels on her.
Minsc is in both BG1 and BG2. In BG1 he is able to be recruited in Act 2 of the game. In BG2 Minsc is one of the characters that is in the prison with the player character at the very beginning of the game.
Dude, I would NOT take Jaheira out to a fancy restaurant...I'd take her out to a bar and get some cheap food there...Fancy and Jaheira don't make sense for me...just get her some good wine and a hearty stew or something... ;) good vid...wish I could play this game, but I've beaten BG 3 like 10 times now.
I’d invite myself over for dinner with the grandkids
as someone who made Astarion a 4/8 rogue/bard I 100% agree that he gives off bard energy, he has to play the violin as well
Astarion: Couldn't have gotten it closer without getting it right.
Gale: Couldn't have been farther off. XD
"All these women intimidate me"
What, even Karlach? She's practically a puppy dog. Doubly so if she likes you. :p
Big Red ♥️. Barb 8/Rogue 4 for me.
A diadem is a ribbon worn across the forehead and fastened in back, usually with ribbons trailing from the knot in back and sometimes adorned by a jewel or brooch in the center of the forehead. It was the equivalent of a crown in classical Greece and Greek-influenced cultures.
Ok I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought astarion was a bard at first Lmao
Minsc is 100% in BG2, currently replaying it with him in my party.
No wizard in fiction has that strong a jaw line ⁉️ theres a MR H B Dresden who would disagree
Shane here, JT and I are both huge Dresden Files fans, and I personally would like to apologize on JT's behalf, you are absolutely right about the jawline of a certain Chicagoan wizard
The remaining .7 of his 4.7 is all the almost-right guesses
I love and cherish that Astarion, possibly the gayest-coded character in the history of games, is 100% "mr. Steal yo girl."
Truth is he absolutely CAN steal your girl but left to his own devices he’s definitely stealing her man instead
I was like “Astarion’s gotta be pretty obviously a rogue right” then I remembered the very first time I saw him without playing the game I assumed he was a bard just based on his outfit and personality lmao this might be fun
The dynamic and banter between you three is hilarious
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Harry Dresden has a pretty strong jawline if Im remembering his description correctly... but to be fair... he's not too shabby in a brawl either.
20:35 wrong. Minsc is in Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 as well as 3. He was in fact a member of the starting party in 2 alongside Jaheira and is in fact optional in 1. So you might've gotten them mixed up because there's no way you'd miss him in 2
I love that JT guessed Bard for Astarion, because that boi gave me total bard vibes as well and as soon as I realised I could change his class I made him a Bard!
I'm playing Astarion as a bard right now, lol.
For real Gale is way too swole for a wizard. And no one who looks like that would have an 8 in strength.
I clicked on this on a whim and had such a great time lol. Y'all are funny
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If he could have seen gales scrawny arms he would not have said fighter
i still think even with full body pictures i think he still would have gotten Gale wrong and said sorcerer
Minsc is in BG2, he is perhaps the most beloved companion.
To be fair, I have Halsin use owl bear rage often enough that he might as well be a barbarian
"There's not a wizard in all of fiction that has that strong of a jawline." Ariakas, Dragon Highlord and commander of the Dark Queen's armies in the Chronicles of Krynn, is a fighter/wizard who has the physical strength to destroy heavy oak doors with a single blow from his fist.
You should have done a bonus round guessing what the Dark Urge default class is
Gale does have a high Constitution so he can look like a fighter
20:30 That artwork of Minsc is from Baldur's Gate 2 and he was definitely in Baldur's Gate 2... in fact, Minsc and Jaheira are the very first NPCs the player meets in BG2, right in the "prologue" when your amnesiac Bhaalspawn character wakes up chained up in a gaol and has to escape. They both are in BG1, BG2 and BG3.
“What’s a diadem?” Me(a potter head): it’s like a tiara(in Cho changs voice)
i feel like they did him dirty by not showing the entire character models.
As soon as I get Withers, I usually respec Astarion as a Bard (College of Swords) and I change Shadowheart's domain to Life rather than Trickery. I've also experimented with Gale as a sorcerer but not all the time.
Sweetheart does pretty well as a Tempest cleric with Storm Sorcerer dip. Gale Wiz 8/ Dragon Sorc 4 is fun.
So here’s the thing, respeccing a character immediately sets their ability scores to the default for their class. For some reason recruiting the companions in the later acts also respecs them when they join, that’s why after recruiting Minsc’s strength isn’t very high either and Jaheira’s dex is lower than it should be to actually work with her scimitar. That’s actually why Halsin has low strength. If you inspect him before recruiting him you will see that he has 16 strength I believe. Once you add him to your party it just sets him to low strength since Druids don’t need strength.
I loved this video ideia!!
Nice to see a fellow Minthara simp.😌 Astarion owns my heart and mind, but Minty is a very close second favorite. She's intimidating and yet so freakin' adorable when she's in her cuddly and vulnerable pillow talk mood.🥰 As you might have guessed from my two favorites, I have a thing for people with that kind of duality (Astarion is mean but all is forgiven the moment he flashes his usual puppy dog eyes☺).
Wild energy XD im impressed by how monotone you kept your voice while saying this, beautiful 👌
Thank you. Dry wit is as much an art as it is a science.
Funnily enough I play Gale as a heavy armor multi class because he looks awesome in armor
Yeah, I played him as an abjuration wiz with a war cleric dip, very fun
I like to swap around peoples camp clothes and Karlach is super cute in Gales comfy purple clothes but that also means Gale is in Karlach’s trousers (sans shirt)
Definitely some ab implants or something. Maybe it’s a full-time illusion 😅
@@RaineInChaos karlach is also pretty much the only character that looks decent in destitute clothes. And Gale looks awesome in Shadowheart's clothes
@@Semety ooh I'll try SH on Gale! I so rarely have her in my team that she hasn't been part of the clothes swap yet
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I think Teen Titan's Raven would be a shadow monk personally but i can definitely see the sorcerer vibe!
J. T. here! I love the lore connection of meditation and self-discipline that Raven uses to control her demonic side, and that could absolutely make sense for a Monk. But I mean, c'mon? Someone blessed/cursed with amazing power because of their lineage? That's the definition of a Sorcerer. Thanks for commenting!
I like to make Astarion a bard anyway!
TO BE FAIR.
Jaheira is canonically a druid/fighter multiclass character. She's been like that in all her former appearances so if he chose either of those two. You'd be right.
with full body shots it wouild have been much easier... the full body character design is very much on point with all of them
saying Astarion has high charisma (looks at the 10 charisma stat XD)
I haven't played Baldur's Gate I, II or III, so here are my picks; Astarion Bard; Gale Fighter/Pirate; Halsin Ranger; Jaheira Sorceress; Karlach Warlock;; Laez'el barbarian; Minsc Monk; Minthara Cleric; Shadowheart Cleric; Wyll Bard. I was close to their expert, often following the same logic and having the same second choices.
If I'm not mistaken diadem is a specific type of circlet
The head portrait of Astarion didn't even show his elven ears, but calling him a "tiefling" when he doesnt even have horns is a weird read.
Also, considering what weird hair/skin/eye colours elves can have in Forgotten Realms and how Astarion is so pale and has silvery-grey-white hair, the red eyes are supposed to make people think he's an albino. What is far more telling in-game is how you can see the two scars on his neck when you first meet him if you pay a little bit of attention (esp if you get the scene where he tackles you to the ground) and the tiny fangs when he talks...
"This is the kind of guy that could steal your wife." I turn to my husband... Feel called out yet? Darling. 😆
I'm not a gamer. I just play BG3.
In his defense with Gale, he does have the City Watch ability and a few weapon profs with it. So he did used to be a captain or a bit of a brawler there, from a certain point of view
Minsc is in all 3 baldurs gate games
Well Minthi was a cleric in early access... so...
jaheiras face card is LETHAL
Honestly when I first met Gale in-game I thought he was a bard; he just sounds like one.
"(Astarion's) Charisma is pretty high."
His Charisma is 10
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"This guy looks like my dad" caught me so off guard
It caught Marshal and me (Shane) off guard as well, but trust us, it's incredibly accurate
Like the Mice in the Hitchhikers Guide Boo is the physical manifestation of a Hyper intelligent trans dimensional being
There really aren't multiple ways to pronounce "Astarion". Just one. The way the way the voice actor himself pronounces it and also every other character in the game: _[Ah-STAH-ri-on]._ For crying out loud, when you first meet Astarion in-game he introduces himself to you _by name!_ The only person who started this "A-stair-ion" American pronunciation was the gamemaster guy who ran the promo D&D5E BG3 "sidequest" for the BG3 voice actors where they played as the BG3 characters.
Pretty funny the couple of times he read the designs pretty accurately to then get to the totally wrong conclusion from the information he got.
I feel like you shoulda done the character intro videos for the reveal instead of just a picture with the answer!! Woulda made calling Gale not a wizard much more goofy since he acts so much like a wizard haha
Shane here, that would have been a really good idea! Unfortunately I didn't think of it
Minsc was in both BG1 and BG2. (and their expansions)
Cool video! I think it would have been improved if you had played a voice line of the characters along with their picture.
He’ll be right and then they say things or make expressions to make him second guess himself lol
only showing the faces is kinda unfair tbh
Their standard outfits would some of them away and most of them have the same body type anyway
@@dsvwtrbeytnryune don’t show the weapons obviously but the outfits are supposed to say something about their character. it’s intentional character design. only showing the faces is weird. it’s like only giving you the names.
Hey to be fair, Halsin is an outlander and he's wild, so that does fit the barbarian vibe.
Also, it took me way too long to find Gale in the game (actually if I hadn't looked it up he'd have died in that portal), and both his personality and his voice were nothing like I imagined from looking at his picture. He sounds sweet and nerdy, but looks like he'd have a lower voice, and be a typical leading fighting man. I'm glad he isn't.
Also, my feelings about Lae'zel changed throughout the game, and I legit cried when we said goodbye 😭
Jaheira was also a fighter/druid in the Baldur's gate 1 and 2
When you are a wizard and your ex-gf is a goddess, and you kinda hope to win her back, you are putting in hours in the gym to look fit!
Tbf, I originally read Astarion as a bard too.
To be fair for Minthara, in ealry access before Paladin was added, she used to be a Cleric.
Minsc is definitely in BG2 - he's one of the companions you can pick up right from the start. Also I think that was his bg2 portrait, but I'm not sure
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The reason the casters still look physically tough is because you can reclass them into melee if you want.
I think clips of them talking would have given a bit better leg up on who and what these characters are, but might have given away too much. I dunno. Gale, for sure, doesn't come off as a fighter. Astarion though, yeah, he's totally got "steal your wife or husband" bard energy, haha. And Karlach's sweetness would have shone through. 🙂
I never realized that Gale does the Dreamworks face
I wonder what he would have guessed if you didn't show Boo
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29:35 Yes, you can. One you like to play as, the other you'd want to play with.