I was aware of this and CRINGE every time I see them get their fill but just reading your comment blew me away for some reason. It's like the comment was such a simple statement about a mundane place but contained great philosophic knowledge of truth. They are like crack addicts and every time a man even just looks at them it's like they get a high. So they start to desire for more by pulling up their skirt a little higher.
@@raresabraleaks8216 The average woman IS attractive, either you are a woman, a man with high standards or surrounded with the type of women that makes themselves ugly on purpose.
Jamal Barham It is actually a lot harder depending on your personality. If you are a lower self esteem and emotionally attached you are more prone to the seek the comfort of others.
You guys aren't wrong. That's why it's my recommendation to just try and accomplish something alone. Like building a website or getting in shape. I also have piss poor self esteem but I always feel better with every little success :)
Matthew Morton Guys in general just need to be more receptive to each other. I think it's kind of back asswards to love and respect women almost unconditionally but then turn around and compete and push away other men
Jamal Barham Shit yeah. I've lived through some stuff in my 40 years bro. And I've accomplished more than most will in a lifetime. I've fought some impossible battles and came out clean and bloody but I always come out. I am proud of who I am and I ain't scared to be either. Never bend on your beliefs and never except anything less than what you know you give in this world. Just being you and walking your path makes you a powerful leader and you'll rub off positive vibes everywhere you go.
Jamal Barham look into mgtow my friend. I warn you tho. After you take the "red pill" you will feel first empowering emotions, and that sense of omg I belong here with the real men, then you'll go through red pill rage after knowing the truth.. but after a few months or more of digesting all you can on the subject like youve done on npd/bpd you will experience what they call red pill malaise. Where if you get caught there you will fall into this deep nothingness void. Where you go numb in a sence. Youll cry and feel all the pain youve surpressed from what has been done to you by society in general.. its ok to let yourself feel it all but dont hang out there... A healthy place is right in between rage and sadness. Either way you'll never look at another woman the same...You'll look at her for what she really is. But for all of us I think we need to pass the knoll edge on to as many as we can I'm order to save humanity from this collapse that were speeding towards.
Many men constantly seek validation from others whether it be through violence, status, money, women, etc because their insecure, scared, weak. I myself used to struggle with wanting validation, but as I get older I don’t seek it anymore because once you know yourself and are truly comfortable in your own skin, you won’t have to prove yourself to anybody. Why waste your time trying to impress people who won’t give a damn about you in the long run. Always validate yourself. Great Video!
female validation has been absent for almost my entire life of 33yrs. so i became a professional. now i make a living, fill 12+ hours of every day with my work, have the respect and demand of several high ranking alphas, teach in colleges and mentor newbies and ive never had a bad day at work.
You show the way and walk the path. My work as a veterinarian suits me quite well and it leaves me with no appetite for drama in my home life. I come home to a sweet and meowing cat named Eddie
Haven't had a job in 19 years, don't vote, no bank account ect ect. Totally off the radar, no need of validation, i am as i am. The pack "society" is as it is. Humans being pack animals by nature tend to obey rather than question their masters (government). The life of a vagabond (tramp) has its own rewards, there is life beyond the plantation walls. The pack needs you on the plantation, question is do you need the pack?
Female validation is more instant and gives a stronger boost but it wears off faster and has drawbacks. Thing validation takes more time to kick in, gives a decent boost, lasts for a very long time (sometimes a lifetime) and has only benefits After you take the red pill, female validation doesn't give the same boost as before due to the realization of the hypergamy
Sir HardOn Cocaine high is very similar to the feeling of being "lovestruck", I've heard. I've never done coke, but I did feel quite high and hyper when I fell for someone in highschool. I cringe at how foolish I was back then.
Jordan Peterson said women are born knowing their purpose in life, which is to have children. As such they needn’t seek validation because they already have it. Men on the other hand have to earn validation, and sadly not all men will achieve this. In fact very few will hence male disposability. My own validation comes through self sustainability and the freedom to enjoy my life. Stupid as it sounds I also obtain validation from my dog lol. No joke, building a relationship with an animal is incredibly rewarding. At least for me. It occurs to me she doesn’t have a choice where she ends up or who she ends up with, she’s here because of me. Because of this I aim to provide the dog with as good a life as I possibly can. Spending my day walking along beaches or climbing through Forrest’s with her is just wonderful. I certainly don’t seek women for validation, that part of me died a long time ago.
Well, they have a simple choice: set being a parent as your deafult life goal. Ta daaaa :) BTW have you ever considered that what Peterson says might not always be the truth? How does he know what the life purpose of all women is? Maybe they just treat parenthood as a side effect of their romantic life or only believe it's their life goal because of social conditioning (similarly to the conditioning of men who are told than their masculinity must be gained and proven, isn't granted at birth as a male). What if some women (maybe not all, maybe for most being impregnated is the ultimate validation sufficient for their whole life) need validation too?
Excellent video. Women are more attracted to a man who does not view them as his primary objective in life, but rather has some other, greater mission to pursue. This kind of thinking can help those who want women, and also help those who want to be celibate.
Trouble is every time men gravitate towards a hobby, the whamins have to barge in, demand changes and start kicking out the men they don't want to share their new safe space with
You guys forget that everytime a guy decides to stand up and say no an army of white knights come in to shame or physically assault him. Also its not a lame gripe its true. Everytime the heavy lifting is done they come in with bullshit demands. Its not even that they are evil its just what it is and its annoying.
eFitzG don't give a rat's ass how I sound; just telling it like it is. I don't even participate in the genres this has happened to: Star wars, table top, video games, comic books, but from an outsider's perspective it's fairly evident that all were welcome in these communities- the rot set in when the newbies demanded changes. Despite the snarkyness of the comment, VSSP does raise a good point; most men have no true conviction- it happens coz they let it
Vspp, how were we supposed to keep them out of football? I gave up on tv after that but since wymns are almost all the spending, the networks do not miss me.
I've learned from a child that women don't validate a man. And if I try I will always be disappointed or have to inflate it so that it feels more than it is. I learned that father and step father's gave me more than women. I grew up staying away from my narc mom doing boy stuff like building forts, playing guns, bikes etc. Then as a young man cars, parties, out doors - hunting/fishing, model cars etc. Behind sex and a sandwich I didn't really care much else what a woman thought of me. Because believe it it not there will always be another woman just around the corner that will want me if the one I was with got itchy feet. And that they all are the same more or less. Thing validation always was my go to over seeking that fleeting validation if a woman.
Thing validation = order, since you can have much control over it Female validation = chaos, since you can't get that much control over The scale should be balanced.
Oussama Mabrouki I would not call female validation chaos, more like a fat cake. Instant yet short lived gratification followed by negative effects of eating too much sugar. Chaos can very simply be always looking for new activities, never getting too comfy and branching out. Also know as the renaissance man.
Oussama Mabrouki Want to escape routine? Just take (calculated) risks while self-actualizing and you can have all the chaos you want, in a healthy and productive way. I mean like starting a company, travelling, changing your career, exploring new activities, etc. - you never know what and how much of it you'll get.
My favorite form of validation comes from applying and expanding upon personal skills. The more you learn, the more you can do. Put in the hard work to master something you enjoy and the validation will come.
I think we tend to dramatically underestimate the extent to which a man's self-esteem depends upon the validation of other men. Presumably, this is because we tend to view any such admission as either sexually tinged or as putting us in some sort of subordinate position. Consider, though: We spent the vast majority of our uniquely human evolutionary history in egalitarian hunter-gatherer bands in which hunting was cooperative and the sharing of game meat mandatory. This sharing was a strategy for diffusing and diluting risk, but it also meant that every group member imposed a default cost on all others. Women, being a limiting reproductive resource, could largely offset this cost biologically, but men had to do so by making themselves useful to others--particularly other men. Hence the expectations for cooperative hunting, for the willingness to share, for the willingness to defend the group from predators and hostile outsiders, etc. Even male chimps often depend upon (smaller scale) cooperative partnerships with other males to advance or maintain rank. If you read Elliot Rodger's manifesto closely, it becomes evident that he was even more preoccupied with the approval of men than the approval of women. Sure, he wanted easy sex and romantic companionship, but it seemed as though the primary reason he wanted women to like him was to impress other men ("alpha" men, specifically) and prove he belonged in their club. PUAs offer a similar testament. If I care only or even primarily about the validation of women and I discover some handy cheat codes for accessing that validation, why on earth would I share it with unrelated, unknown men and thereby make the competition for women's validation unnecessarily stiffer (no pun intended)? Sure, the big names may do it for money, but that explanation doesn't fit the countless nobodies swapping tips on reddit or wherever. For these guys, the main motivations seem to be: (1) bragging to other men, and (2) providing something valuable to them. Ancestrally, our survival absolutely depended on stable membership in a cooperative community, and that stable membership absolutely depended--especially for men--on our ability to make ourselves useful to other men (who had the primary gatekeeping authority). Now, things are different for most of us today, ecologically and economically speaking, but our brains are still calibrated, at least coarsely, for these old exigencies. Cooperative arrangements among men are a powerful and robust source of meaning, and we neglect them at our emotional peril.
I think you mistake pragmatic cooperation and competition with validation. Men universally look down on a braggart, because we all know that when you're truly dominant, you don't have to tell anyone. We compete, ideal with enough self restraint to not be suicidal. We cooperate, where the efforts of the individual would be insufficient. Neither of these is validation, and actually interferes with internal validation. Men do NOT validate each other. Women do. Maybe that why men who attempt this are not happy and not respected by other men...
Great insights, especially the one about losing interest in a hobby if you turn it into a job. All of the hobbies I've ever had that were totally engaging and enjoyable for me paid nothing. Turning a passion into a job or business is not always what it's cracked up to be, as illustrated will in the book The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber. If one is lucky enough to market the yeilds of their hobby enough to simply cover expenses, that's a win!
Make no mistake men...when the validation goes away (if you ever had it) all you will have left is your purpose and dignity. The only other option is apathy and slow death...mark my words.
Thanks for breaking this down. Thing validation is what you have through thick and thin (no pun intended). Real passion is totally beyond women and discovering this as a young man is a blessing and initiation into future freedom. Another thing to emphasize is how to defend this passion and source of self-validation from vampiric women and men in an age of generalized appropriation.
The problem with validation is that it's a problem of emotions, not pure rationality. I've been studying red pill ideas and knew that men are only valued for what they can do for years. But I never internalized that knowledge so that it would change my emotions-based validation system. It was a problem of my logical consciousness knowing the reality and how to proceed forward, but my stronger emotional brain holding the consciousness back. It was only after I started taking notes of my experience with other people that I truely understood no one gave a crap about me. When I fixed a fridge that someone would have replaced completely for full price just by replacing a part for $50, they still treated me like an idiot during the entire repair process and even afterwards, as if me touching it would only ruin their fridge. I spent 10+ hours on research and repair and didn't even get a thank you, 2 of those hours was that person getting in my way. It was a favor. I wasn't even being paid. I also noticed it when I got into the hobby of cooking and baking. I was making breads left and right, and people who told me they've never made bread their entire lives were telling ME how to make bread. I spent 40+ hours of research and work only to get lectured by people who saw a TikTok baking video once. It took months of that experience to pile up in my head. And the thing that connected it all together was watching a red pill video again and being told again that "men are only valued for their utility." Hearing that again and pondering over experiences, I thought about how I did my best to improve my utility and I was still belittled. I was never going to win. I had nothing to lose. Their validation is fickle and fake. It just clicked that I was never going to get genuine appreciation from the people around me. Getting appreciation and validation from other people was an impossibility for me. I cried. But that was when I internalized the reality that men are just utilities, that there's no point in trying to get other people's validation, and all that mattered was doing what I wanted. The most important thing is that my emotional brain changed to match my newfound reality. Before it would give me feelings of shame and guilt if I did something I was interested in but wasn't directly beneficial for other people. Now those feelings aren't there to hold me back, and I can actually feel motivated and happy to try a new recipe and explore new cooking techniques. All it took was to internalize that I had no validation to gain, so I had nothing to lose. Another way to think about it is that my internal value system, that I can't consciously control, weighted external validation much more than internal validation. The only way internal validation would even have a chance of feeling better and have more value assignrd than external validation was if external validation was deemed impossible, meaning 0 can ever be obtained.
Love this take. I discovered the same with art, when I was young It was a vehicle for collecting social currency, impressing others, etc. By the time I hit 30, it dawned on me that it’s people who don’t impress me, and I was confused I spent so long ‘performing’ to seek their validation. I cynical case of “I see what makes you people cheer”. It freed me, and allowed me to let go and create purely for personal pleasure.
I`m really glad i never gave up on audio/video editing.. ive spend countless hours having fun on my own with the music i love. I won't say i`m good at it, it's pretty amateuristic, but it's a perfect hobby for me. As Sandman said in a video.. that you have to have at least a bit of OCD to make it work. I never seeked for validation and still not doing so. I've seen many others try to mimic my style but they all gave up after 1/2 year or year. That's because i do it from a inner want and truly having fun with it. Not seeking for subs or likes. Be your own biggest fan is what i`m trying to say
I have a good buddy who is not a mainstream kind of guy and not what could be called classically handsome. He remarked that my hanging out with him gave him validation IN OTHER PEOPLE'S EYES. They took him and his ideas more seriously if there was a reasonably attractive female who supported him. As for him, he is secure enough in his own faith and ideals that it doesn't matter if I or anybody else approve or not.
Don't ask me, I'm just a girl... what I think I’m hearing you say is his positive attributes are not obvious or otherwise visible, so, you provide a visible positive attribute by socializing with him. If that is really how he feels, it is both sad and brilliant. He gets it. Do you?
Stewart Miller, Who told you that? xD Seriously though, if that were the case, I should be a complete SJW leftist feminist because that is what surrounded me during my formative years. Of course, there is nothing new under the sun, but I'm talking about actually thinking things through and coming to your own conclusions.
In society as I see it, in western culture & approaching middle age: If you're married/long term relationship & have kids, that's almost considered the unspoken holy grail for alot of men . Men will hide an unhappy marriage or crappy long term relationship, as they enjoy the status it gives them. They subconsciously know that in today's dating scene, if they end up single now, chances are they could be single forever. Those men, with long term relationships & kids, they fit in when drinking at the bar. Men will discuss the problems of their relationships, the stresses & lack of sleep, they can talk for hours.... & end with....women hey, can't live with them, can't live without them...or kids, they're trouble but I love the bones of them. They know that it's stressful & sleep depriving but they enjoy the social validation that comes with it, the being a normal guy. Even having a kid that you see fleetingly & pay loads of $$$ in child support is viewed as better than being single with no kids. People look down on you if you're single & childless. I've friends & acquaintances who I know feel superior due to being in a relationship & or having kid(s) as well. I also have friends who, being single & childless eats them up inside, they now suffer from depression because of it. For me, I'm making my peace with it. Ive discovered the manosphere about 10 months ago, I'm pretty much black pilled. I improve myself but mostly for myself. I see life differently this last 6 months especially. I see through bullshit that's it feels like a superpower Vs my old self. I'm becoming much more content although I'll always be a little disappointed during fleeting moments of my life that for an average looking guy in today's world, a relationship & kids is just a fairytale. For generations previous, it was pretty much guaranteed. Oh well, nevermind, it's not my fault, it's just the way of the world. I tried but I was swimming against a very strong tide. I never had much of a chance & it was pretty much outside of my control. Onwards& upwards
Female validation i surmise is mostly external in nature, probably due to evolutionary pressures. It could be that lack of external validation from other males and females may have compromised a female's reliability in child-rearing. Ostracized women would have a lower chance of successfully passing on their genes than other women. I can see natural selection creating a scenario where men who relied on internal validation more often would have a higher chance of creating offspring. Internal validation may have been necessary for men who were not born with perfect genes, big muscles, height etc. Things like good immune system, height, good looks etc. are genetic and thus the men who inherit these traits would automatically receive external validation from women whereas the majority of unlucky men who lost the genetic lottery would not receive external validation from anyone, they would have no choice but to develop internal validation to move forward in life and increase their chances of passing on their genes. Note = I have no qualifications in biology.
I think if men are helped, encouraged, and maybe even somewhat praised; most can find a genuine interest in almost anything. Perhaps even a passion. Woodworking, blacksmithing, electronics, radio, networks, aircrafts/avionics, art, music, food, leatherwork, other crafts, etc. The problem in America is everyone is trying to make a buck. Why should they help or train you unless there's a monetary gain? Almost every hobby, specifically if you want to excel at it, requires that some monetary threshold be crossed. I'd change it so many local clubs lacked entry fees for newcomers. And so at least once a month the clubs held a newcomers night; where amateurs and newly interested people can ask question, get tips, and maybe even get some help. Everything is like a $50 sign up fee and then a license fee and most already have a group so you're not welcome. It's depressing and overwhelming.
I'd like to add another form of validation, that is validation from other males. We males instinctively feels something good when we beat other men at the competition, be it sexual, physical, or provisional. Validation from ther males increases your status on the eyes if the women, and thus feeding into that female validation. Thoughts?
Yeah. Men compete or cooperate. We don't validate each other. Women do that. Maybe that's why men who attempt this path are not respected by either men or women, and never satisfy their craving.
Well you're probably right but I still feel I need women validation or rather I still appreciate it so much that I don't feel the need to search validation in other things. I would rather find ways to increase my humble success with women.
This is a huge observation that bleeds over into middle management at large organizations and why I believe they're failing. MM has shifted from managing things (systems, processes for delivering value), to managing people (concerns about interactions, manipulation, politics, etc). Not to say that earlier generations of MM were exactly excellence of execution; A large percentage of MM jobs simply aren't needed (even before AI), but are a natural product of large corporate bureaucracy that tends to grow, and mediocrity with it. But IMO as a F100 consultant, my observation is that MM have become massively mediocre specifically because of two things: 1) focus shifting from things to people, and 2) reduced ability/desire to take risks. Without the desire/ability to take risks, organizations to civilizations wither and die.
Indeed, sexuality roars in the existential vacuum. For me personally it's a preoccupation since I never had any hobbies or interests, I just don't have that capacity to get deeply involved in things/activities that most men seem to have. Never got into video games because it seemed boring and pointless when I could "waste" my time fapping to porn instead. And I always was this way, even before the post-red-pill void, never could be passionate about anything outside myself and quickly lose interest in every activity. But as far as the individual is concerned, you tend to focus too much on abstract meanings rather than pure sensations, and forget that you are far more "apex mind" than most men. Even men who have overcome the need for external validation of any sort still have the physical drives that make them preoccupied with the sexual, and so its purely about managing those visceral desires when one's life does not permit their fulfillment- whether volcel, incel or somewhere in between.
men's craving of the " experience " of female validatation that can be likened to the sexual encounter with the woman in which the man "performs" sexually for the woman; this modus operandi is an artifact of basic human nature of reward of orgasm. However, this is all so physical and gets to the mind-body dichotomy of classical philosophy: finally men (as human exemplars) have the capability to segue more toward the mind and intelligence accumulation as a better and more worthwhile enterprise as opposed to the more visceral typical male-female physical connection that parades around as peaceful co-existence.
I have a feeling that even with thing validation, the very accessibility of the internet really puts a damper on that. Men's ingrained competitiveness make it very demoralizing to have the best of the best easily viewable at a buttonpress. After all, why bother working on your own skill when the best in the world are already out there?
I am so freaking done validating women I spent half my life trying to fix crazy bitches,I'm so done. And all of the sane ones think they're better than me, or they realized very quickly I'm too smart and they will never be able to manipulate me so they move on the way a predator would, looking for easier prey.🐺
I think social skills get too much attention. I think when people are talking about social skills what they are really trying to hit on is confidence. If a man feels like his interaction with a woman is going to turn out negatively and he then judges himself harshly for the negative outcome, real or imagined, it makes it nearly impossible to exhibit the social behavior necessary to gain the attention of a woman. On the other hand, if a man feels sure of himself and that he is a value to women and gives a mental middle finger to women who reject them (their loss), he doesn't have to have any special skill to display this feeling. In both cases the emotional state of the man is displayed with no skill at all. It's innate. In both cases, the emotional state creates results. This is where the phrase fake it till you make it comes from. Fake confidence until you get results. The results will create real confidence and will create more results. Of course there is no faking it. The moment someone believes in faking it until they make it, they gain a fragile sense of real confidence because they believe their faking behavior will work. You can't fake it. You can only display how you really feel.
As a mgtow man I don't need outside validation. I only care what I think. I'm introvert. I'm very happy being alone and playing video games, and watching films and Netflix and gym. And fucking Escorts. I'm pretty happy with that.
Knowing what I know now, thanks to Stardusk, I'm so glad that I was thing- and idea-directed from an early age, and really didn't care for women at that time. Call me an outlier and an oddball. Too bad that the Net and RUclips didn't exist at that time, because that would have sped up my learning curve and provided me with the explanation for why many other men out there are female-directed, and the punishment you receive at the hands of such men.
I get no female validation and it sucks, I don’t cope by saying it doesn’t matter and muh “hobbies”. I’m not 12 years old, I’m 35 and want to watch children have fun, not try to be a child. Female validation does matter, you don’t have to like it. Yes I want a woman to lust over me. Maybe she will leave me, but we had some good times. Not this emptiness, this void
It is an understandable feeling. You're a man as I am. We are just living in an era where are needs are labeled as rebarbative and unwanted. Women can't or will never understand the needs of a man because they are biological programmed not to. Women are trying to be like men even though they just want to not *feel* like a sex object. It doesn't really matter if she is.
Whatever floats your boat but personally I think being childish is good. By childish I mean having an energetic and open mind (and thus following your hobbies), not immature.
While I agree that worshiping women is silly, I don't think feeling empty is a choice. People don't just choose to stop feeling empty, just like they don't choose to feel happy.
long term watcher and subscriber, would love a video on different perception + understanding of men and women and how that essentially creates two worlds or even two truths or rights?
These things are related- but they are actually not related. Seems strange but actually it's not lol I lol'd when you said that. Like all women, you are unique. But not like the rest!
As an incel myself, assuming incel is defined as involuntary celibacy, I still get sexual frustrated even though I spend time on software developing, watching anime, and discussing philosophical. These hobbies doesn't sexual desires for women unless the man is not heterosexual. Also, hobbies such focused on the maths, science and technology becomes a double edge sword for an incel because most women are not particular interested in these things. All you really get are a bunch of sexual frustrated men even when they are seeking their hobbies. If we somehow can develop sexual partners through technology like sex robots that would eliminate the need the constantly play the game.
Rusty Shakleford Talk to one woman is probably something I should try. Granted engaging women in a slightly salacious manner is hard to do in these times. I am certainly not Casanova. Also, would I be guaranteed to acquire a woman that is not overtly overweight or I have a modicum of attraction to. Probably not right.
Aerex12 yes give it a try, not all interactions you have are going to be perfect you get better at asking curious questions or sharing something that happened to you. Ask them out for a coffee and a walk or sushi. Your guaranteed to meet one woman whose not overweight who will wanna have some fun. You sound like a vey agreeable person. One thing that helped me be more confident in my own skin, is to purposefully disagree with someone in conversation in a collected manner. That way you can work on being disagreeable. Also one thing is that even if you were brad Pitt you'd only spend less than 1% of your life having sex. Not that significant amount of time if you ask me. We talk to people much more than we have sex with them, in my rational mind I worked on my conversational skills and it translated to benefits in all aspects of my life. Being able to express yourself about what you want is a better skill to acquire than a hole to put your tip in! Your in the middle of a cultural headlock the only way is to Tapout. Best of luck to you in life!
Aerex12 maybe just except that you arent relationship material and find other things that bring you joy and happiness. You said you like science and philosophy, these are good hobbies, but do you believe in God?
Im curious about how much will power it takes to completely ignore the drive for female validation. recieving allot of female validation is a mechanism to encourage a man to adopt traits attractive to women which indicates genetic prowess . But, understanding a mechanism doesn't make you immune to the mechanism. How does one ignore or lessen its impact without seemingly repressing an evolutionarily important validation mechanism, the purpose of which tells a man his importance in the hierarchy. I would presume there's negative impact to be had by repressing such a mechanism over time. Unless im missing something.
Neocon wars aren't satisfying because you're fighting for the benefit of another tribe. Fighting for your own tribe is satisfying. Street gangs are somewhat artificial, because the other gangs they're fighting are no different than their own -- the difference is the color of your shirt, that's dumb.
There is a certain adrenaline rush and feeling of purpose only conflict can bring a man, whether in war, or the war in the streets. I can tell you gangsters are as loyal to their boys, as soldiers in war are to eachother.
I noticed that most HIGH schools have eliminated wood, metal, plastics and auto shop, in favor of basket weaving and other more female friendly classes.
Women get more validation in the parking garages at the local shopping mall than a man receives in a lifetime of hard work...
I was aware of this and CRINGE every time I see them get their fill but just reading your comment blew me away for some reason. It's like the comment was such a simple statement about a mundane place but contained great philosophic knowledge of truth. They are like crack addicts and every time a man even just looks at them it's like they get a high. So they start to desire for more by pulling up their skirt a little higher.
Too bad their validation has an expiration dat, when they hit the wall at 30. while mens continue
Only the fine or cute ones. Other women just get ignored. Don’t develop an apex fallacy.
@@raresabraleaks8216 The average woman IS attractive, either you are a woman, a man with high standards or surrounded with the type of women that makes themselves ugly on purpose.
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Being proud of yourself is a hell of a lot easier then making other people proud of you.
Jamal Barham It is actually a lot harder depending on your personality. If you are a lower self esteem and emotionally attached you are more prone to the seek the comfort of others.
You guys aren't wrong. That's why it's my recommendation to just try and accomplish something alone. Like building a website or getting in shape. I also have piss poor self esteem but I always feel better with every little success :)
Matthew Morton Guys in general just need to be more receptive to each other. I think it's kind of back asswards to love and respect women almost unconditionally but then turn around and compete and push away other men
Jamal Barham Shit yeah. I've lived through some stuff in my 40 years bro. And I've accomplished more than most will in a lifetime. I've fought some impossible battles and came out clean and bloody but I always come out. I am proud of who I am and I ain't scared to be either. Never bend on your beliefs and never except anything less than what you know you give in this world. Just being you and walking your path makes you a powerful leader and you'll rub off positive vibes everywhere you go.
Jamal Barham look into mgtow my friend. I warn you tho. After you take the "red pill" you will feel first empowering emotions, and that sense of omg I belong here with the real men, then you'll go through red pill rage after knowing the truth.. but after a few months or more of digesting all you can on the subject like youve done on npd/bpd you will experience what they call red pill malaise. Where if you get caught there you will fall into this deep nothingness void. Where you go numb in a sence. Youll cry and feel all the pain youve surpressed from what has been done to you by society in general.. its ok to let yourself feel it all but dont hang out there... A healthy place is right in between rage and sadness. Either way you'll never look at another woman the same...You'll look at her for what she really is. But for all of us I think we need to pass the knoll edge on to as many as we can I'm order to save humanity from this collapse that were speeding towards.
Many men constantly seek validation from others whether it be through violence, status, money, women, etc because their insecure, scared, weak. I myself used to struggle with wanting validation, but as I get older I don’t seek it anymore because once you know yourself and are truly comfortable in your own skin, you won’t have to prove yourself to anybody. Why waste your time trying to impress people who won’t give a damn about you in the long run. Always validate yourself. Great Video!
bigpolitical829 well said!
+Justin Y I’m glad you learned the error of your ways. Great sign of growth.
said it all and said the Realest
female validation has been absent for almost my entire life of 33yrs. so i became a professional.
now i make a living, fill 12+ hours of every day with my work, have the respect and demand of several high ranking alphas, teach in colleges and mentor newbies and ive never had a bad day at work.
You show the way and walk the path. My work as a veterinarian suits me quite well and it leaves me with no appetite for drama in my home life. I come home to a sweet and meowing cat named Eddie
Good for you! good for you
Haven't had a job in 19 years, don't vote, no bank account ect ect. Totally off the radar, no need of validation, i am as i am. The pack "society" is as it is.
Humans being pack animals by nature tend to obey rather than question their masters (government). The life of a vagabond (tramp) has its own rewards, there is life beyond the plantation walls. The pack needs you on the plantation, question is do you need the pack?
How do you do it
How do you not work??? I want in on that secret.
Female validation is more instant and gives a stronger boost but it wears off faster and has drawbacks.
Thing validation takes more time to kick in, gives a decent boost, lasts for a very long time (sometimes a lifetime) and has only benefits
After you take the red pill, female validation doesn't give the same boost as before due to the realization of the hypergamy
Sir HardOn Cocaine high is very similar to the feeling of being "lovestruck", I've heard. I've never done coke, but I did feel quite high and hyper when I fell for someone in highschool. I cringe at how foolish I was back then.
@@nashthrashington9749 I wouldn't describe being lovestruck like a cocaine high at all. Maybe closer to ecstasy.
Jordan Peterson said women are born knowing their purpose in life, which is to have children. As such they needn’t seek validation because they already have it. Men on the other hand have to earn validation, and sadly not all men will achieve this. In fact very few will hence male disposability. My own validation comes through self sustainability and the freedom to enjoy my life. Stupid as it sounds I also obtain validation from my dog lol. No joke, building a relationship with an animal is incredibly rewarding. At least for me. It occurs to me she doesn’t have a choice where she ends up or who she ends up with, she’s here because of me. Because of this I aim to provide the dog with as good a life as I possibly can. Spending my day walking along beaches or climbing through Forrest’s with her is just wonderful.
I certainly don’t seek women for validation, that part of me died a long time ago.
Well, they have a simple choice: set being a parent as your deafult life goal. Ta daaaa :) BTW have you ever considered that what Peterson says might not always be the truth? How does he know what the life purpose of all women is? Maybe they just treat parenthood as a side effect of their romantic life or only believe it's their life goal because of social conditioning (similarly to the conditioning of men who are told than their masculinity must be gained and proven, isn't granted at birth as a male). What if some women (maybe not all, maybe for most being impregnated is the ultimate validation sufficient for their whole life) need validation too?
@@000RachElla000 certainly the female euphory about widespread abortion liberation erodes JP argument about women.
Excellent video. Women are more attracted to a man who does not view them as his primary objective in life, but rather has some other, greater mission to pursue. This kind of thinking can help those who want women, and also help those who want to be celibate.
Just had a fight with the 'wife' lol. I needed this. Fuck any form of validation. Except internal of course.
Thanks again.
LOL wife. Are you high?
Trouble is every time men gravitate towards a hobby, the whamins have to barge in, demand changes and start kicking out the men they don't want to share their new safe space with
slimjimpui this is so true..
You guys forget that everytime a guy decides to stand up and say no an army of white knights come in to shame or physically assault him. Also its not a lame gripe its true. Everytime the heavy lifting is done they come in with bullshit demands. Its not even that they are evil its just what it is and its annoying.
eFitzG don't give a rat's ass how I sound; just telling it like it is. I don't even participate in the genres this has happened to: Star wars, table top, video games, comic books, but from an outsider's perspective it's fairly evident that all were welcome in these communities- the rot set in when the newbies demanded changes. Despite the snarkyness of the comment, VSSP does raise a good point; most men have no true conviction- it happens coz they let it
VSSP Jesus man, too real...
Vspp, how were we supposed to keep them out of football? I gave up on tv after that but since wymns are almost all the spending, the networks do not miss me.
I've learned from a child that women don't validate a man. And if I try I will always be disappointed or have to inflate it so that it feels more than it is. I learned that father and step father's gave me more than women. I grew up staying away from my narc mom doing boy stuff like building forts, playing guns, bikes etc. Then as a young man cars, parties, out doors - hunting/fishing, model cars etc. Behind sex and a sandwich I didn't really care much else what a woman thought of me. Because believe it it not there will always be another woman just around the corner that will want me if the one I was with got itchy feet. And that they all are the same more or less. Thing validation always was my go to over seeking that fleeting validation if a woman.
Mgtow Life : thank you for the specific acknowledgment of the step-father’s role.
Thing validation = order, since you can have much control over it
Female validation = chaos, since you can't get that much control over
The scale should be balanced.
Why would you want half your life to be chaos?
lee comstock because too much order creates routine, everything becomes known and you can't discover unknown territory.
Oussama Mabrouki I would not call female validation chaos, more like a fat cake. Instant yet short lived gratification followed by negative effects of eating too much sugar. Chaos can very simply be always looking for new activities, never getting too comfy and branching out. Also know as the renaissance man.
Oussama Mabrouki Want to escape routine? Just take (calculated) risks while self-actualizing and you can have all the chaos you want, in a healthy and productive way. I mean like starting a company, travelling, changing your career, exploring new activities, etc. - you never know what and how much of it you'll get.
Homo Ludens yes, but failing at this, is very different from handling female rejection...
My favorite form of validation comes from applying and expanding upon personal skills. The more you learn, the more you can do. Put in the hard work to master something you enjoy and the validation will come.
An idle brain is the devil's workshop.
I think we tend to dramatically underestimate the extent to which a man's self-esteem depends upon the validation of other men. Presumably, this is because we tend to view any such admission as either sexually tinged or as putting us in some sort of subordinate position. Consider, though: We spent the vast majority of our uniquely human evolutionary history in egalitarian hunter-gatherer bands in which hunting was cooperative and the sharing of game meat mandatory. This sharing was a strategy for diffusing and diluting risk, but it also meant that every group member imposed a default cost on all others. Women, being a limiting reproductive resource, could largely offset this cost biologically, but men had to do so by making themselves useful to others--particularly other men. Hence the expectations for cooperative hunting, for the willingness to share, for the willingness to defend the group from predators and hostile outsiders, etc. Even male chimps often depend upon (smaller scale) cooperative partnerships with other males to advance or maintain rank.
If you read Elliot Rodger's manifesto closely, it becomes evident that he was even more preoccupied with the approval of men than the approval of women. Sure, he wanted easy sex and romantic companionship, but it seemed as though the primary reason he wanted women to like him was to impress other men ("alpha" men, specifically) and prove he belonged in their club.
PUAs offer a similar testament. If I care only or even primarily about the validation of women and I discover some handy cheat codes for accessing that validation, why on earth would I share it with unrelated, unknown men and thereby make the competition for women's validation unnecessarily stiffer (no pun intended)? Sure, the big names may do it for money, but that explanation doesn't fit the countless nobodies swapping tips on reddit or wherever. For these guys, the main motivations seem to be: (1) bragging to other men, and (2) providing something valuable to them.
Ancestrally, our survival absolutely depended on stable membership in a cooperative community, and that stable membership absolutely depended--especially for men--on our ability to make ourselves useful to other men (who had the primary gatekeeping authority). Now, things are different for most of us today, ecologically and economically speaking, but our brains are still calibrated, at least coarsely, for these old exigencies. Cooperative arrangements among men are a powerful and robust source of meaning, and we neglect them at our emotional peril.
I think you mistake pragmatic cooperation and competition with validation. Men universally look down on a braggart, because we all know that when you're truly dominant, you don't have to tell anyone.
We compete, ideal with enough self restraint to not be suicidal.
We cooperate, where the efforts of the individual would be insufficient.
Neither of these is validation, and actually interferes with internal validation.
Men do NOT validate each other. Women do. Maybe that why men who attempt this are not happy and not respected by other men...
it was not egalitarian at all. One man got all the good meat and women, most got the scraps, some got nothing
Great insights, especially the one about losing interest in a hobby if you turn it into a job. All of the hobbies I've ever had that were totally engaging and enjoyable for me paid nothing. Turning a passion into a job or business is not always what it's cracked up to be, as illustrated will in the book The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber. If one is lucky enough to market the yeilds of their hobby enough to simply cover expenses, that's a win!
Just beware the women who seek validation by being able to tell their friends that they're dating the bassist.
Make no mistake men...when the validation goes away (if you ever had it) all you will have left is your purpose and dignity. The only other option is apathy and slow death...mark my words.
Sage man, well said
Great video, and definitely a great topic of discussion!
Excellent timing for a video like this with the mess men find themselves into trying to get validated.
Men are to blame for women freezing their eggs (The Daily Mail )
Thanks for breaking this down. Thing validation is what you have through thick and thin (no pun intended). Real passion is totally beyond women and discovering this as a young man is a blessing and initiation into future freedom.
Another thing to emphasize is how to defend this passion and source of self-validation from vampiric women and men in an age of generalized appropriation.
Great video. Really important positive contribution. Well done
The problem with validation is that it's a problem of emotions, not pure rationality.
I've been studying red pill ideas and knew that men are only valued for what they can do for years. But I never internalized that knowledge so that it would change my emotions-based validation system. It was a problem of my logical consciousness knowing the reality and how to proceed forward, but my stronger emotional brain holding the consciousness back.
It was only after I started taking notes of my experience with other people that I truely understood no one gave a crap about me. When I fixed a fridge that someone would have replaced completely for full price just by replacing a part for $50, they still treated me like an idiot during the entire repair process and even afterwards, as if me touching it would only ruin their fridge. I spent 10+ hours on research and repair and didn't even get a thank you, 2 of those hours was that person getting in my way. It was a favor. I wasn't even being paid.
I also noticed it when I got into the hobby of cooking and baking. I was making breads left and right, and people who told me they've never made bread their entire lives were telling ME how to make bread. I spent 40+ hours of research and work only to get lectured by people who saw a TikTok baking video once.
It took months of that experience to pile up in my head. And the thing that connected it all together was watching a red pill video again and being told again that "men are only valued for their utility."
Hearing that again and pondering over experiences, I thought about how I did my best to improve my utility and I was still belittled. I was never going to win. I had nothing to lose. Their validation is fickle and fake. It just clicked that I was never going to get genuine appreciation from the people around me. Getting appreciation and validation from other people was an impossibility for me.
I cried. But that was when I internalized the reality that men are just utilities, that there's no point in trying to get other people's validation, and all that mattered was doing what I wanted. The most important thing is that my emotional brain changed to match my newfound reality. Before it would give me feelings of shame and guilt if I did something I was interested in but wasn't directly beneficial for other people. Now those feelings aren't there to hold me back, and I can actually feel motivated and happy to try a new recipe and explore new cooking techniques. All it took was to internalize that I had no validation to gain, so I had nothing to lose.
Another way to think about it is that my internal value system, that I can't consciously control, weighted external validation much more than internal validation. The only way internal validation would even have a chance of feeling better and have more value assignrd than external validation was if external validation was deemed impossible, meaning 0 can ever be obtained.
Love this take. I discovered the same with art, when I was young It was a vehicle for collecting social currency, impressing others, etc. By the time I hit 30, it dawned on me that it’s people who don’t impress me, and I was confused I spent so long ‘performing’ to seek their validation. I cynical case of “I see what makes you people cheer”. It freed me, and allowed me to let go and create purely for personal pleasure.
Excellent video! Thanks!
I`m really glad i never gave up on audio/video editing.. ive spend countless hours having fun on my own with the music i love. I won't say i`m good at it, it's pretty amateuristic, but it's a perfect hobby for me. As Sandman said in a video.. that you have to have at least a bit of OCD to make it work. I never seeked for validation and still not doing so. I've seen many others try to mimic my style but they all gave up after 1/2 year or year. That's because i do it from a inner want and truly having fun with it. Not seeking for subs or likes. Be your own biggest fan is what i`m trying to say
Yeah like I'm an early 20s virgin, probably not incel I've had girlfriends, but I have a bunch of hobbies I put first so I never cared as much.
Good for you bud. Keep it up and you'll do just fine
I have a good buddy who is not a mainstream kind of guy and not what could be called classically handsome. He remarked that my hanging out with him gave him validation IN OTHER PEOPLE'S EYES. They took him and his ideas more seriously if there was a reasonably attractive female who supported him. As for him, he is secure enough in his own faith and ideals that it doesn't matter if I or anybody else approve or not.
Don't ask me, I'm just a girl... what I think I’m hearing you say is his positive attributes are not obvious or otherwise visible, so, you provide a visible positive attribute by socializing with him.
If that is really how he feels, it is both sad and brilliant. He gets it. Do you?
ThinkingOutLoud, If I didn't get it, would I have even bothered to make this comment?
Don't ask me, I'm just a girl... okay. I’ll take your word for it. No explanation or discussion necessary. Have a nice day.
Stewart Miller, Who told you that? xD Seriously though, if that were the case, I should be a complete SJW leftist feminist because that is what surrounded me during my formative years. Of course, there is nothing new under the sun, but I'm talking about actually thinking things through and coming to your own conclusions.
MikeTo, WTF are you talking about???? He's my friend. I like to hang out with him. Where does manipulation enter the equation????
In society as I see it, in western culture & approaching middle age: If you're married/long term relationship & have kids, that's almost considered the unspoken holy grail for alot of men . Men will hide an unhappy marriage or crappy long term relationship, as they enjoy the status it gives them. They subconsciously know that in today's dating scene, if they end up single now, chances are they could be single forever. Those men, with long term relationships & kids, they fit in when drinking at the bar.
Men will discuss the problems of their relationships, the stresses & lack of sleep, they can talk for hours.... & end with....women hey, can't live with them, can't live without them...or kids, they're trouble but I love the bones of them. They know that it's stressful & sleep depriving but they enjoy the social validation that comes with it, the being a normal guy.
Even having a kid that you see fleetingly & pay loads of $$$ in child support is viewed as better than being single with no kids. People look down on you if you're single & childless. I've friends & acquaintances who I know feel superior due to being in a relationship & or having kid(s) as well. I also have friends who, being single & childless eats them up inside, they now suffer from depression because of it.
For me, I'm making my peace with it. Ive discovered the manosphere about 10 months ago, I'm pretty much black pilled. I improve myself but mostly for myself. I see life differently this last 6 months especially. I see through bullshit that's it feels like a superpower Vs my old self.
I'm becoming much more content although I'll always be a little disappointed during fleeting moments of my life that for an average looking guy in today's world, a relationship & kids is just a fairytale. For generations previous, it was pretty much guaranteed. Oh well, nevermind, it's not my fault, it's just the way of the world. I tried but I was swimming against a very strong tide. I never had much of a chance & it was pretty much outside of my control. Onwards& upwards
Dude thank you so much for this video!
God Damn, Stardusk..we've been together a long time..years and years...thanks for Everything, man...
Female validation i surmise is mostly external in nature, probably due to evolutionary pressures. It could be that lack of external validation from other males and females may have compromised a female's reliability in child-rearing. Ostracized women would have a lower chance of successfully passing on their genes than other women. I can see natural selection creating a scenario where men who relied on internal validation more often would have a higher chance of creating offspring. Internal validation may have been necessary for men who were not born with perfect genes, big muscles, height etc. Things like good immune system, height, good looks etc. are genetic and thus the men who inherit these traits would automatically receive external validation from women whereas the majority of unlucky men who lost the genetic lottery would not receive external validation from anyone, they would have no choice but to develop internal validation to move forward in life and increase their chances of passing on their genes.
Note = I have no qualifications in biology.
I think if men are helped, encouraged, and maybe even somewhat praised; most can find a genuine interest in almost anything. Perhaps even a passion.
Woodworking, blacksmithing, electronics, radio, networks, aircrafts/avionics, art, music, food, leatherwork, other crafts, etc.
The problem in America is everyone is trying to make a buck. Why should they help or train you unless there's a monetary gain?
Almost every hobby, specifically if you want to excel at it, requires that some monetary threshold be crossed.
I'd change it so many local clubs lacked entry fees for newcomers. And so at least once a month the clubs held a newcomers night; where amateurs and newly interested people can ask question, get tips, and maybe even get some help.
Everything is like a $50 sign up fee and then a license fee and most already have a group so you're not welcome. It's depressing and overwhelming.
Great as always.
I'd like to add another form of validation, that is validation from other males. We males instinctively feels something good when we beat other men at the competition, be it sexual, physical, or provisional. Validation from ther males increases your status on the eyes if the women, and thus feeding into that female validation. Thoughts?
Wondering Z i believe in toxic masculinity and believe you described what it is, not the daft "manspreading"
Yeah. Men compete or cooperate. We don't validate each other. Women do that. Maybe that's why men who attempt this path are not respected by either men or women, and never satisfy their craving.
Well you're probably right but I still feel I need women validation or rather I still appreciate it so much that I don't feel the need to search validation in other things. I would rather find ways to increase my humble success with women.
True freedom? Living a full life requiring NO validation.
This is a huge observation that bleeds over into middle management at large organizations and why I believe they're failing. MM has shifted from managing things (systems, processes for delivering value), to managing people (concerns about interactions, manipulation, politics, etc). Not to say that earlier generations of MM were exactly excellence of execution; A large percentage of MM jobs simply aren't needed (even before AI), but are a natural product of large corporate bureaucracy that tends to grow, and mediocrity with it. But IMO as a F100 consultant, my observation is that MM have become massively mediocre specifically because of two things: 1) focus shifting from things to people, and 2) reduced ability/desire to take risks. Without the desire/ability to take risks, organizations to civilizations wither and die.
It's ancient vedic wisdom to reach a state of being comfortable with yourself. Not seeking fame, status or money
Indeed, sexuality roars in the existential vacuum. For me personally it's a preoccupation since I never had any hobbies or interests, I just don't have that capacity to get deeply involved in things/activities that most men seem to have. Never got into video games because it seemed boring and pointless when I could "waste" my time fapping to porn instead. And I always was this way, even before the post-red-pill void, never could be passionate about anything outside myself and quickly lose interest in every activity.
But as far as the individual is concerned, you tend to focus too much on abstract meanings rather than pure sensations, and forget that you are far more "apex mind" than most men. Even men who have overcome the need for external validation of any sort still have the physical drives that make them preoccupied with the sexual, and so its purely about managing those visceral desires when one's life does not permit their fulfillment- whether volcel, incel or somewhere in between.
men's craving of the " experience " of female validatation that can be likened to the sexual encounter with the woman in which the man "performs" sexually for the woman; this modus operandi is an artifact of basic human nature of reward of orgasm. However, this is all so physical and gets to the mind-body dichotomy of classical philosophy: finally men (as human exemplars) have the capability to segue more toward the mind and intelligence accumulation as a better and more worthwhile enterprise as opposed to the more visceral typical male-female physical connection that parades around as peaceful co-existence.
I have a feeling that even with thing validation, the very accessibility of the internet really puts a damper on that. Men's ingrained competitiveness make it very demoralizing to have the best of the best easily viewable at a buttonpress. After all, why bother working on your own skill when the best in the world are already out there?
I am so freaking done validating women I spent half my life trying to fix crazy bitches,I'm so done.
And all of the sane ones think they're better than me, or they realized very quickly I'm too smart and they will never be able to manipulate me so they move on the way a predator would, looking for easier prey.🐺
Well spoken.
I think social skills get too much attention. I think when people are talking about social skills what they are really trying to hit on is confidence. If a man feels like his interaction with a woman is going to turn out negatively and he then judges himself harshly for the negative outcome, real or imagined, it makes it nearly impossible to exhibit the social behavior necessary to gain the attention of a woman. On the other hand, if a man feels sure of himself and that he is a value to women and gives a mental middle finger to women who reject them (their loss), he doesn't have to have any special skill to display this feeling. In both cases the emotional state of the man is displayed with no skill at all. It's innate. In both cases, the emotional state creates results.
This is where the phrase fake it till you make it comes from. Fake confidence until you get results. The results will create real confidence and will create more results. Of course there is no faking it. The moment someone believes in faking it until they make it, they gain a fragile sense of real confidence because they believe their faking behavior will work. You can't fake it. You can only display how you really feel.
As a mgtow man I don't need outside validation. I only care what I think. I'm introvert. I'm very happy being alone and playing video games, and watching films and Netflix and gym. And fucking Escorts. I'm pretty happy with that.
Hey great video!
Knowing what I know now, thanks to Stardusk, I'm so glad that I was thing- and idea-directed from an early age, and really didn't care for women at that time. Call me an outlier and an oddball. Too bad that the Net and RUclips didn't exist at that time, because that would have sped up my learning curve and provided me with the explanation for why many other men out there are female-directed, and the punishment you receive at the hands of such men.
Your going to have to remove all young boys from single mothers before you can even get started first hand.
I get no female validation and it sucks, I don’t cope by saying it doesn’t matter and muh “hobbies”. I’m not 12 years old, I’m 35 and want to watch children have fun, not try to be a child. Female validation does matter, you don’t have to like it. Yes I want a woman to lust over me. Maybe she will leave me, but we had some good times. Not this emptiness, this void
4 noble truths my dude. All types of satisfaction are fleeting.
It is an understandable feeling. You're a man as I am. We are just living in an era where are needs are labeled as rebarbative and unwanted. Women can't or will never understand the needs of a man because they are biological programmed not to. Women are trying to be like men even though they just want to not *feel* like a sex object. It doesn't really matter if she is.
Whatever floats your boat but personally I think being childish is good. By childish I mean having an energetic and open mind (and thus following your hobbies), not immature.
While I agree that worshiping women is silly, I don't think feeling empty is a choice. People don't just choose to stop feeling empty, just like they don't choose to feel happy.
Any upcoming video on th-fronting in Scottish English?
No one is interested in that.
long term watcher and subscriber, would love a video on different perception + understanding of men and women and how that essentially creates two worlds or even two truths or rights?
What's the music in your intro?
Hey there mr. sandman here
What do you make of this Koreaboo phenomena, that have popped up in the last two years? Did it exist before, when you were there?
F.Y.I: I love KPOP
These things are related- but they are actually not related. Seems strange but actually it's not lol I lol'd when you said that.
Like all women, you are unique. But not like the rest!
As an incel myself, assuming incel is defined as involuntary celibacy, I still get sexual frustrated even though I spend time on software developing, watching anime, and discussing philosophical. These hobbies doesn't sexual desires for women unless the man is not heterosexual. Also, hobbies such focused on the maths, science and technology becomes a double edge sword for an incel because most women are not particular interested in these things. All you really get are a bunch of sexual frustrated men even when they are seeking their hobbies.
If we somehow can develop sexual partners through technology like sex robots that would eliminate the need the constantly play the game.
Rusty Shakleford Talk to one woman is probably something I should try. Granted engaging women in a slightly salacious manner is hard to do in these times. I am certainly not Casanova. Also, would I be guaranteed to acquire a woman that is not overtly overweight or I have a modicum of attraction to. Probably not right.
Aerex12 yes give it a try, not all interactions you have are going to be perfect you get better at asking curious questions or sharing something that happened to you.
Ask them out for a coffee and a walk or sushi.
Your guaranteed to meet one woman whose not overweight who will wanna have some fun.
You sound like a vey agreeable person. One thing that helped me be more confident in my own skin, is to purposefully disagree with someone in conversation in a collected manner.
That way you can work on being disagreeable.
Also one thing is that even if you were brad Pitt you'd only spend less than 1% of your life having sex. Not that significant amount of time if you ask me.
We talk to people much more than we have sex with them, in my rational mind I worked on my conversational skills and it translated to benefits in all aspects of my life.
Being able to express yourself about what you want is a better skill to acquire than a hole to put your tip in!
Your in the middle of a cultural headlock the only way is to Tapout.
Best of luck to you in life!
Rusty Shakleford I appreciate your advice and will apply it. Thanks.
Sayed Asif Yeah I do lift. Use to play sports back in school and I know how to play the Alto Sax but that was a while ago.
Aerex12 maybe just except that you arent relationship material and find other things that bring you joy and happiness. You said you like science and philosophy, these are good hobbies, but do you believe in God?
Start mirroring on Bitchute.
Im curious about how much will power it takes to completely ignore the drive for female validation. recieving allot of female validation is a mechanism to encourage a man to adopt traits attractive to women which indicates genetic prowess . But, understanding a mechanism doesn't make you immune to the mechanism. How does one ignore or lessen its impact without seemingly repressing an evolutionarily important validation mechanism, the purpose of which tells a man his importance in the hierarchy. I would presume there's negative impact to be had by repressing such a mechanism over time. Unless im missing something.
Dogs, pride, materialism...ya'll need some jeesauce!
What makes men happy? War and the spoils of war.
Neocon wars aren't satisfying because you're fighting for the benefit of another tribe. Fighting for your own tribe is satisfying. Street gangs are somewhat artificial, because the other gangs they're fighting are no different than their own -- the difference is the color of your shirt, that's dumb.
There is a certain adrenaline rush and feeling of purpose only conflict can bring a man, whether in war, or the war in the streets.
I can tell you gangsters are as loyal to their boys, as soldiers in war are to eachother.
war does not make men happy, it makes women happy, and men broken/dead.
nam e tell that to a volunteer soldier.
you got paid, that's called mercenary.
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I noticed that most HIGH schools have eliminated wood, metal, plastics and auto shop, in favor of basket weaving and other more female friendly classes.
You pick the right topics at the critical time that I am dealing with them; almost like it's serendipity.