The Turn on the Forehand
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The Turn on the Forehand
The turn on the forehand is a VERY IMPORTANT tool in Dressage training. In the turn on the forehand, the horses’ hind end moves around the front end of the horse. The horse can either pivot on the inside front leg or keep the walk sequence and slightly move the inside front leg.
Why do a turn on the forehand:
Submission - the turn on the forehand can be used to get the horse focused on the rider and can help to prevent spooking or other undesirable behaviors such as rearing or bucking.
Suppleness - this movement helps get the horse to stretch in the back by reaching and crossing over with the hind legs.
Straightness- the turn on the forehand can help to straighten the horse. Especially when done on the horses’ stiff side.
To lift the back and thoracic sling muscles. In order to do a turn on the forehand, the horse has to lower and engage the hind end and lift through the thoracic sling in order to cross the hind legs.
More maneuverability of the horse -the front end stays in place and the hind end moves. This is very useful for opening and closing gates!
To educate the horse about the function of the inside leg and the outside rein.
The Aids for a Turn on the Forehand-
Inside leg at the girth to push the inside hind leg over
Outside rein - keeps the neck straight, controls the outside shoulder
Inside Rein - for slight flection to the inside
Timing of the aids: press with the inside leg when the inside hind leg is leaving the ground, half halt with the outside rein when the outside front leg is leaving the ground.
How to introduce the turn on the forehand?
It is best to introduce the turn on the forehand with a square and making quarter turns on the forehand at each corner of the circle. Another great method for introducing the turn on the forehand is to halt on the rail, flex the horse slightly towards the wall, and do a half turn on the forehand away from the rail.
This is the only video that actually made sense, thank you! X
Nailed it! 💥 This doesn't appear in any dressage tests but it's amazing exercise nevertheless. I'm so guilty of overusing the inside rein instead of my leg! This is our reset button when my connection falls apart. Reminds me of that exercise Charlotte Dujardin had where she leg yields out from the rail and half passes back to the rail - same idea. Helps to get the bend and connection established for the half pass.
I wonder why it isn't in. Amy of the dressage tests? It seems to me that it should be!!
This is ONE thing my horse does beautifully! Lol...now if you want to do a lesson on turn on the haunches, we could really use some help with that! Thank you for another great video.
I spent three years trying to learn to do that. My mentor helped me clear it up in 15 minutes. Hahaha.
This was wonderful. I’ve never fully understood this before! Thanks.
I'm so glad! It's such an important move
I liked the incorporation of the turn in the forehand for a horse going counterbent in trott (one of my two horses does that from being used by the riding school where he is boarded, with beginner students...). I will practice that exercise whenever I ride him. Thanks Amelia!
I did this yesterday with my 23 year old quarter horse and it was amazing how it all came together…clockwise. Not so much the other way but hey, we have something to work on! Thanks!
Yes, this helped my horse that jack knifes onto the left shoulder. I stopped and did TOF counter clockwise every time he got heavy in the left rein and then trotted forward. He seemed to understand to use his WHOLE body to get off the L rein then when I would use my L leg to R rein. Very good tool and probably the right gymnastic for him🤗
The 1st exercise my instructor taught me. My horse is still in hand work during his rehab and does this sometimes and sometimes he's all nope! Lol he does a leg yield away from me because he decides he's done. I can't wait to try this in the saddle 🥰
I saw this video months ago and love to watch it again 🌟💫✨🦄🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much for your amazing videos. It is so crystal clear, to the point, and excellent demonstrations, excellent suggestions and exercises, and makes me wish I could take classes with you! It's very generous of you to take the time to film all this.
This is a great (truly) video instruction. I love especially the idea of my horse is hanging on my right rein (like your demonstration horse Don Carlos did) to transition down to a walk and immediately leg yield into a turn on the forehand. You can bet I will use this in my practice ride time as I school my horse. Thanks so much, Amelia!!
Awesome video as always! I need to use this more! Great reminder to use the inside leg not just the rein! 🙃 Happy riding!
I am sure will help any horse! I think is a super exercise! Thanks Amelia!
🐎❤️❤️ Hi everyone! This is SUCH a great exercise! Try it out! Which side is more difficult? Do you think it will help your horse??🐎🐎🐎
This would be a great exercise for my horse, he does the same thing as your horse and don't want to bend around my inside leg and connect to the outside rein 😁
This is a very useful exercise. My horse wants to lean to the right exactly as you describe. I’ve been doing the quarter turns (riding squares) and Its helping to improve his straightness. I’ll check out the ground work video next then try full turns. Many thanks Amelia. Barb. P.S. I hope you and your horses are not being affected by the wildfires in California...
Thanks Amelia! That pony is sure looking good!
Excellent explanation, this is very helpful. Thank you for your videos!
This is a great exercise! What I find most helpful is when you describe the timing of the aid such as when to ask the hind leg to move over when it’s in the air! Thanks so much as always!😊
Brillant demonstration, as always Amelia😊
This movement first appears, for me, riding in Western Dressage Level 1 Test 4. My horse likes to side step "shuffle" this movement. Thank you for your explanation, I will try tonight to see if I can improve on this movement
Thank you for sharing this training on the forehand
Excellent! A request for 4/2 with commentary. Thanks!
I have learnt many thigs from you tank you for making me a good rider I really love the way you ride
Thanks Amelia. As always, great video. Going to work on it today.
excellent esp. your tip on using the TOH to help with heaviness on one rein or the other!
This is so well explained. I second the idea for a video on the turn on the forehand. Or is there one already?
Great teaching Thank you!
Great instructions
Once again, this is great. Gives me and my schooling horse something on which to work -- get thinking. Thank you.
When I watched this, I had to check the USDF rules again to make sure they hadn't changed the turn on the forehand rules, but the definition for turn on the forehand is still the same: there should not be any sideways or forward movement of the forehand in the finished movement: The inside front should step in rhythm in the same spot and not be "stuck" (some horses will just stick their inside leg and not really move it and just pivot around it, which is a fault). Allowing a young horse to move a bit in the front, as long as they are moving the hind around the front vs just spinning, don't pop the outside shoulder and don't get overflexed, is still a good exercise and can help teach it not to get stuck on the inside front leg, but is technically not a turn on the forehand according to the rulebook.
I'm actually curious what reference you got the graphic in your thumbnail from? It is similar but subtly different than that in the USDF rules.. The USDF graphic shows the inside shoulder as well as the inside front hoof staying in place whereas your graphic doesn't have the hoof positions shown and the positions of the horse as drawn show it basically rotating just in front of the wither vs the inside front leg and thus to do this version, the horse's front legs would have to step a small circle..
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
First, Im 60 and Ive been riding since I was 6 riding performance horses not long after. I was sitting here watching this and realized I was cuing with my leg and tightening appropo arm while Im watching. Ridiculous. I really appreciate how you break it down while you are riding. When I ask this of my horses, there is no sidepass at all. I think maybe you should make ppl aware of that. Novice riders may not understand it is supposed to be a turn until you stop asking for the turn.
Haha! Thats great that the aids are so much in your body!!
Still working on this. Sticky off my right leg.
I think this exercise is the most fundamental thing that a rider can do. I have a couple of older ladies who board here and they are not very handy. I showed them this so they can have some control over their horses feet. There is so much going on with this exercise like switching eyes and helping to remove braces and pushing through the hindquarters. Love it! Thanks for another great video.
I really love these videos. The information in them are really important because there are so many riders that get lost in the details and there are a lot of instructors that don’t go into the details. When I was first learning to ride as a teenager, I would always hear inside rein outside leg and vice versa but I would never be told how to use my body part to give the aid, when where and how to apply the aid and even more important why and what reaction is correct and incorrect. Can you continue to Talk about and describe the details and exact timing of the aids and the what, when, where, why and how To use your skeleton or your body part when applying the aids?? For example- When to apply the inside leg Aid to move he hind quarters around and when should the rider be squeezing the fingers for the half halt of the outside hand. I Do understand that you usually use a coordinating rein aid with an active leg aid for the half halt, but there are so many details that go into all of these exercises and it’s so important and it’s such good information to have out there for people to be able to educate themselves.
Really nice explanation! BTW, what kind of mic are you using to record while riding? The sound is excellent.
haha thank you! I don't actually remember which mic this was, it was a while ago.
You refer to a “ link below” but I’m not seeing that link
Hello! Wonder if I need to teach before or after the turn on forehand versus leg yielding. Thank you so much and you indeed rock ☺️🙏
Great video!
Thank you so much for great videos :)
Very cool thank you !
You bet!
Great Video! I saw it and looking over again as so many details are mentioned and may miss them :) I am a bit confused when you say that the horse should know leg yield before doing the turn on forehand. I posted on the group and actually they told me that once i get a good turn on forehand, Oreo will understand to yield easily. I am focusing on this as i am progressing on the turn on forehand yet having still troubles on yielding. So know, looking over the video, maybe i need to focus on yielding and after working again on the forehand? As a conclusion the turn on forehand is quite easy to do with Oreo. Not yet perfect. Still to work as doing it at halt. But on the right path. Leg yield is a mass :( I saw your videos, the aids are quite simple but he just dont do it! Conclusion 2: kindly confirm that i am doing well or i need to follow your video so dropping the turn and focusing on yielding :) :) :) Thank you so so much!!!
I really like your Videos Ma'am
Can you explain me The "Defination of Half-Halt" please Ma'am
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Amelia among some other issues, what you are showing here is yielding away from your leg, not a true Turn, not a true Turn-on-the-forehand, wherein the horse must carry (with his inner hindquarter' uppermost joint). Also teach this tool to novice people from a full Halt or they will get more lost. JF
Love your idea about incorporating it into your ride. I find my horse drifts badly at the canter to the right. Stopping and doing a turn on the right forehand should be a great correction, right?
Yes! It will help remind him to stay off of the right leg!!
Another excellent video Amelia, thank you! My mare has a tendancy to step sideways very easily but my problem is that she disconnects her topline and doesn't really step under her centre of mass. Do you recommend any exercises that can help with that?
Do you have any suggestions for me to stop sticking my outside leg out ?
How do you able to tell when your horse's back leg is off the ground?
You feel the hip drop behind you.
Amelia, after my horse can do the turn on the forehand well, what do you suggest I introduce next?
Leg yield, then shoulder in and haunches in!
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage Awesome...thank you so much!
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage another question...I've heard people say too much turn on the forehand makes a horse heavy on the front end (I guess it could if you focused on it day after day etc.) but in your opinion, how often is doing turn on the forehand effective. i.e. is it a movement I go back to when I am having issues with ____??? Like, when do I know it's a good thing to go back to? Thanks so much for taking your time to read & answer this!
@Amelia: in your video you mention a link where you explain how this can be prepared from the ground. I unfortunately did not find the link. Did I miss it ?
Hi, love your videos. want to make sure I am clear turn on the forehand, turns on inside foreleg and turn on haunches turns on inside hind leg? did a bit of reining and we always planted inside inside hind, like in in the spin, someone told me the turn on haunches the front and back legs cross over? help, thanks Jen
Thank you! I have a video on the turn on the haunches that will help: ruclips.net/video/IxDWecimZC4/видео.html
Why my horse throw head up soon as I ask turn on forehand
Hi Carolyn, if you're struggling with it, it can be so helpful teaching it from the ground first! I'll share with you the video where I show how to teach it from the ground, let me know how you get on with it! ruclips.net/video/tBIClN-zlQg/видео.htmlsi=cNcQk2ZzoZitDjCP
I’m not a huge fan of the unnatural head tuck that dressage is known for, seems strenuous for the horse
We always want our horses's using their bodies correctly!
You make figuring out the timing of the aids look so easy! This is a struggle for me...