The difference is you are skilled at the game playing against lower skilled people. But low skilled people playing against low skilled people create the wall in which some people cannot pass. Also it is true the people like yourself, Zwag and many other people have 20 accounts and many of those accounts end up in the lower Elo’s where the lower skilled people end up getting completely stomped instead of actually being able to learn from the game, whether it’s a win or a loss.
If you're a player with a way lower skill ceiling and play there: You get a lot of smurfs, every win brings you closer to those bastards and additionally it's way more unpredictable. Their judgement oftentimes completely differs from someone with a vast knowledge of the game. Thats at least my take
You dont get that many smurfs, also u get smurfs on ur team aswell. If someone is stuck in bronze with over 20-30 games they are just a bronze player and need to improve.
I'd like to see you do that when the enemy layers have 10 kills at 10 minutes. When toplane is completely pushed into the 3rd tower at 10 minutes and botlane is just on fire and you've been counterpicked by your laner.
I cant get out of bronze. My team is so trash all the time. To prove this i bought a new bronze 4 account for 7$ and within 25 games got it to gold. Riots algorithm literally keeps you hard stuck. Now obviously if this guy played on my account it would be different BUT, people are being held back from their actually mmr and its really frushtrating. Im trying to rank up my account because its lvl 200 and i got a bunch of free skins on it.
if only all champions had a target oneshot button, solo carrying would be more real than elo hell. but i see all this elo hell as a good training if you want to be a real support or adc for example
so you have actually proved there point. The oher team was doing great and was stomping your team and in the end they lost because you were smurf and couldnt carry their game
bruh... when i first started playing league like.... 3 or 4 seasons ago. I placed bronze 2 i think. last season i played i placed bronze 4. And this season. I am hardstuck iron 4. Either i have a shit game, or 3 out of 5 of my team has a shit game. Im decent at the game but not good enough to carry. Ive had so many games in the last week or two where i go idk 15+ even some 20+ kills and 3-6 deaths and still lose. Its horrendous down here
You know Prof well over a million mastery points (and several years) ago, I was new to league of legends (bad friends) when you inspired me to start playing Akali. I was playing morde top and getting shit on and inting and I hated the game. Then I watched a few of your videos after someone dumpstered me on the ninja and something about your channel and your gameplay, humor, and just genuine enjoyment of the game and the champion hooked me. I'm stuck in "Elo Hell" in Emerald now and though I still hate the game, I will always have fun playing Akali. I genuinely appreciate you and your content for that. This video reminded me of some of your much older stuff and I can remember you talking about these exact same points back then. Cool nostalgic moment I thought I'd share. Wish you the best with this channel!
I think point of ELO hell is that some low skill players still make it to higher ranks and higher skill players stay with trols and other high skill players in lower ranks. This Mordekaiser was excellent example of lowskill that made it high ELO somehow. Can say that as 2.8 mln morde i think. Bro couldnt time any skill and ussed R and ghost for 0 reason most of the time.
No, if you are a low skill player you are a low elo, it isn't that deep. Any good player can get to diamond in 2 weeks from bronze, you are just not good
Honestly this feels like a final call for me to actually learn mid lane. I've spent most of my time in this game playing Support as it's the role that's clicked with me the most, but it feels so much harder to make the impact i feel like i need to turn games around, compared to a solo lane like mid where i could use a lead that i build to carry a game
Support is better as you get closer to diamond and your team actually know what they are doing. Supporting ignorant players isn’t easy. Mid lane is the way to go
@@Gavin-hp5uy yeahhhh I lost count of the number of times I'd have adcs that don't go in on my engages, or try to fight when my shield is on cool down, or think they can win a fight against an early game strong champ, etc and like there's only so much I can do to keep them from killing themselves half a dozen times in laning phase lol
@@blacksuitedsonic no not rly try to play on emerald and be the only one who can do anything but you play 2 vs 1 all game while your jgl is 20 cs down and 1 6 the moment your hardstuck your in god hands and you need to play around 500 games to get out
in this game he was barely able to carry being challenger. a player in Gold has to be diamond+ level in order to carry these games which is crazy to think about
@@user-mw9zn9vk3v if you play anywhere near as good as he did in this game and you do it even remotely consistently, you will 100% climb. You do not have to smurf as hard as he did, as long as you are heavily affecting games at that elo there is NO WAY you shouldnt climb Its not that you need to play at a challenger level to win games in bronze, it's that if you play at challenger level in bronze you will almost always win, so anyone saying "i lose because my teammates" or "i lose because elo hell" realistically if you just got better at the game, youd climb. Also he had 30 kills, a 3-1 dragon lead, never lost baron, and didnt lose a single tier 3 turret, how is that "barely" being able to carry? The game was not close
I was literally playing shaco jungle only in bronze and silver, I won like 80% of games and I was emerald on main acc back then. You have to understand, that not every game is winnable and it is ok to lose some. And the thing, that statistically bronze is like way below average, should tell you, that if you are hardstuck in bronze, you are just bad. Sorry to hear that.
Dawg i was doing placements for my first ever ranked game the other day, and i was getting emeraldand diamond mmr. I played flex jg and i did okage. Got grubs at 5 mins and drake at 7. We won after 30 mins. But the next game i had same mmr but i lost because i lost to an invade at the beginning. The next game it was bronze and iron. One bad game and i was sent to bronze queue. Like wtf, i never played ranked only draft queue or aram or RGM but wtf man. I climbed out to silver one but its not worth it man. So many smurfs and duos, if nit that than inting teamates because they get one bad play or dont know that they should attack the dps rathar than the tank. Idk man videos like this dont show the greater picture, its easy to be a good player whos used to playing ranked and has good macro, because most of the time they'll make the callouts and the team will follow. Rather than an average player with decent macro and teammates who will sell all items if you tell them what to do, just because you have a lower K.P. One thing people should know is lower elos care more about K.P. rather than objectives and C.S. TLDR: low elo players are either people who care about K.D rather than objectives, so it's easier for higher elo players to climb when they know how to rotate
So many bronzies coping in the comments. There is no elo hell, if you're supposed to be in a higher elo you will get there. For example I'm just a low elo player myself(gold 1) and I can easily reach this elo again on 100 different accounts, I come out of bronze in a day or two every single time. So if you think you're supposed to be in a higher elo then you should be there - if you're not there, then you're not supposed to be there. Edit: I wanna add; I agree that smurfs are a huge problem, though.
the game is way to much on countermatchups and meta champs + to much comeback mechanics + lesser snowball or punish enemy misstakes = less reward for the better player. it gets worse every season. i quit ranked of madness season9 as a riven otp dia euw. played only aram and avoided playing riven. when i came back 2 years later i was stuck in gold for legit 300+ games. i told my self to admit i got bad and old and the other players got better. even if meta sucks i shouldnt be gold elo as former long year dia player. i knew i had way more knowledge than my enemies but was unable to carry. suddenly after hundrets of games stuck i just changed my runes to offmeta rune inspiration with extra summs cdr and boots + the new hydra came + bought only ionian boots ingame. this 3 changes was my secret to MAX risk but also MAX snowball. i climbed in 2 weeks with 90% winrate to dia1. legit everygame hardcore with nearly every game perfect score no deaths but high cs and kills + objectives. spammed riven only till dia4 after than i stopped my otp for spamming malphite to dia 1. malph was strong af that meta and didnt need skill or time to learn him. only macro/game knowledge was enough to carry games with him. and even with malph i had hardcore smurf kda. at the end i had master mmr at dia2. lobby with 400lp master (was at night, prob to less player for only low masters) and peak was d1 2 wins from reaching master at that time. i couldnt believe HOW FCKING GOOD i was in comparison to the 300+ stuck in gold. if i wouldnt know myself i would bet that i got boosted but nah it was real. i mean the hardcarry games with that winrate holy not even master players as smurf could do that easyly. i never ever dropped again near gold not even near platin. need legit to int to get to platin. my point is yes there is elohell. and my acc especially s11 is a proof of that. in my opinion elo hell doesnt exist under gold/plat elo (because now emerald is new) but after that its everywhere sometimes more sometimes lesser.
Some people are just naturals when, I first started playing in season 3 I placed in bronze and immediately climbed to plat and some players climb way above that even faster. Ppl that get hardstuck in low elo usually are just not critical thinkers when it comes to game basically they suck and aren't learning from their losses.
@@minime1988 i'm working can't play everyday, and when u have a rammus top 0/16 and u play support, u can't carry anything, and i'm plat, but maybe yeah i'm not the best, but cmon elohell does exist
@@Seedream475 If you're talking about right now, the way ranked distribution has changed platinum rank in todays day and age is probably more like gold 3-4ish in seasons before emerald existed and maybe even lower than that when ranks consisted of 5 tiers instead of 4. I don't think I'm that good even while being top 9-10% but consistency in your own play will prove that elohell exists only if you have a weak mental and you'll eventually end up where your skill is the majority of the time. Obviously we get older and don't have the time to rank up that's a different thing.
@@minime1988 i never pressed surrender button by myself, and i'm always the one who die less than the others, that doesn't mean i win everytime of course, but my toplaners, in every of my games are trolling in negatif KDA like 2/16/5 while i have 2/0/3 at 25 min I'm even tell them what to do. I can give you my acc if you want proofs
If you play champions like yi or akali its possible to carry, but most champions simply cannot 1v5, especially it lower elos it can take a ridiculous number of games in order to overcome the coin flip of teammates
Give me an account that's iron/bronze and I will carry you with any champ you want while having fun at the same time, even support(enchanter like milio, lulu not a damage supp like zyra, brand). I will laugh my way up to platinum 1 and will struggle a bit to get emerald. I will get stuck in emerald, since here games are literally coinflips from champ select. I never got past emerald, I peaked emerald 2 in past seasons, I believe I get diamond 4 with a bit of luck, I'm definitely not challenger skilled player stuck in emerald, but trust me this is the real elo hell. There are lots of boosted accounts here and lots of smurfs, like every game. As an emerald player, I can tell you even if I trolled every game I couldn't drop into bronze or iron, I don't know how people end up there, unless they are complete beginners at the game or play with insane lag/ping every game.
Yes, any champ can carry. It's just about fundamentals and knowledge. I can carry a fight in Bronze with full yummi or soraka. Dosn't matter the champ. OFC if you play Riven or Graves you can get 40-50 kills per game. But the point is that you can pick any random champion, for example Tryndamere and just splitpush and take their nexus in 13 minutes in Bronze without having a single kill. It's all about fundamentals. Using minions dmg, level spikes, lsst hitting, builds knowledge, runes, when to recall, waves managment, map awareness, champions knowledge, cooldowns, tower diving, trading patterns, jungle tracking, spacing, dodge skillshoots, buffer habilities, hit habilities, champions combos, mana/energy usage, cd usage, focus on champions, possition yourself in lanning, possition yourself in teamfights, flanking, front to back, counterpicks, big champion pulls, ... I can keep going... Bronze players lack 99% of fundamentals. Thats the reasson why a Challenger player will win all Bronze games no matter what. Even with 4 afks or inters the Challenger player can easily win 1vs9. It's like put a UFC Heavyweight champion against 5 kids. Dosn't matter you have another 4 kids helping you or not. You have so much training that no matter what you are going to win.
The difference is you are skilled at the game playing against lower skilled people. But low skilled people playing against low skilled people create the wall in which some people cannot pass. Also it is true the people like yourself, Zwag and many other people have 20 accounts and many of those accounts end up in the lower Elo’s where the lower skilled people end up getting completely stomped instead of actually being able to learn from the game, whether it’s a win or a loss.
what the fuck are u even saying thats the point if u are low skilled u deserve bronze
I'm just gold 1 and come out of bronze easily, there is no elo hell
if "lower skill" people are stuck in 1 rank , they are exactly that rank.... there is no elo hell if u are stuck u just need to improve.
You get stuck because youre unable to learn. Someone stomping you once in a while is meaningless.
@@eight8muzik 2 wins from gold and getting out of bronze is harder than silver for me
If you're a player with a way lower skill ceiling and play there:
You get a lot of smurfs, every win brings you closer to those bastards and additionally it's way more unpredictable. Their judgement oftentimes completely differs from someone with a vast knowledge of the game.
Thats at least my take
You dont get that many smurfs, also u get smurfs on ur team aswell. If someone is stuck in bronze with over 20-30 games they are just a bronze player and need to improve.
There is no Smurf in bronze (maybe gold Smurf but not higher). When I create a new account I am minimum plat or emerald.
@@bernard_gaming3D then there is me that found 2 smurf diamond on the enemy team :)
I'd like to see you do that when the enemy layers have 10 kills at 10 minutes. When toplane is completely pushed into the 3rd tower at 10 minutes and botlane is just on fire and you've been counterpicked by your laner.
HAHA that "Its over" at 1:25 was so dramatic
LOL the 1 death ff
I cant get out of bronze. My team is so trash all the time. To prove this i bought a new bronze 4 account for 7$ and within 25 games got it to gold. Riots algorithm literally keeps you hard stuck. Now obviously if this guy played on my account it would be different BUT, people are being held back from their actually mmr and its really frushtrating. Im trying to rank up my account because its lvl 200 and i got a bunch of free skins on it.
This... is fucking hilarious. Love it. You are very entertaining
I love u thank you for the kind words
how tf did you survive in the last clip wow
1:41 BUG PASSIVE .. YOU TAKE THIS KILL
if only all champions had a target oneshot button, solo carrying would be more real than elo hell. but i see all this elo hell as a good training if you want to be a real support or adc for example
my main old account 2010 is stuck in elo hell iron/bronze but my new account is plat
6:41 that was fking crazy
haha ty
I LOVE THE EDITS Keep GOING PROF❤❤❤❤👌👌
How the fuck should i reach something higher than bronze if my botlane is 2/22 in 24 min? xD (I am playing jungle, and they were autofills)
so you have actually proved there point. The oher team was doing great and was stomping your team and in the end they lost because you were smurf and couldnt carry their game
isnt this ur main rank?
elo hell is emerald now
smurf can only lose a match at elo hell, when his enemy team has higher rank smurf
This is an entertaining video but it isn't that cut and dry to get out of bronze
bruh... when i first started playing league like.... 3 or 4 seasons ago. I placed bronze 2 i think. last season i played i placed bronze 4. And this season. I am hardstuck iron 4. Either i have a shit game, or 3 out of 5 of my team has a shit game. Im decent at the game but not good enough to carry. Ive had so many games in the last week or two where i go idk 15+ even some 20+ kills and 3-6 deaths and still lose. Its horrendous down here
7:33 you got a gank your prov is invalid
game 2 was in high-elo friend
Plat…
You know Prof well over a million mastery points (and several years) ago, I was new to league of legends (bad friends) when you inspired me to start playing Akali. I was playing morde top and getting shit on and inting and I hated the game. Then I watched a few of your videos after someone dumpstered me on the ninja and something about your channel and your gameplay, humor, and just genuine enjoyment of the game and the champion hooked me. I'm stuck in "Elo Hell" in Emerald now and though I still hate the game, I will always have fun playing Akali. I genuinely appreciate you and your content for that. This video reminded me of some of your much older stuff and I can remember you talking about these exact same points back then. Cool nostalgic moment I thought I'd share. Wish you the best with this channel!
Hey man, thank you so much for leaving the comment! brought a smile to my face. Have an amazing day,!
Bronze isn't elo hell. Emerald is
I think point of ELO hell is that some low skill players still make it to higher ranks and higher skill players stay with trols and other high skill players in lower ranks. This Mordekaiser was excellent example of lowskill that made it high ELO somehow. Can say that as 2.8 mln morde i think. Bro couldnt time any skill and ussed R and ghost for 0 reason most of the time.
plat isnt high elo xD
No, if you are a low skill player you are a low elo, it isn't that deep. Any good player can get to diamond in 2 weeks from bronze, you are just not good
getting 100 g from veigar lule
this is so fucked up
emerald is elo hell not bronze
Honestly this feels like a final call for me to actually learn mid lane. I've spent most of my time in this game playing Support as it's the role that's clicked with me the most, but it feels so much harder to make the impact i feel like i need to turn games around, compared to a solo lane like mid where i could use a lead that i build to carry a game
what's your rank?
Support is better as you get closer to diamond and your team actually know what they are doing. Supporting ignorant players isn’t easy. Mid lane is the way to go
@@Gavin-hp5uy yeahhhh I lost count of the number of times I'd have adcs that don't go in on my engages, or try to fight when my shield is on cool down, or think they can win a fight against an early game strong champ, etc and like there's only so much I can do to keep them from killing themselves half a dozen times in laning phase lol
have to play like a challenger level player to win games in low elo... the logic in these vids are dumb
The only thing you have to do is consistently be better than the elo you are in. Then you will climb
@@blacksuitedsonic no not rly try to play on emerald and be the only one who can do anything but you play 2 vs 1 all game while your jgl is 20 cs down and 1 6 the moment your hardstuck your in god hands and you need to play around 500 games to get out
in this game he was barely able to carry being challenger. a player in Gold has to be diamond+ level in order to carry these games which is crazy to think about
@@user-mw9zn9vk3v if you play anywhere near as good as he did in this game and you do it even remotely consistently, you will 100% climb. You do not have to smurf as hard as he did, as long as you are heavily affecting games at that elo there is NO WAY you shouldnt climb
Its not that you need to play at a challenger level to win games in bronze, it's that if you play at challenger level in bronze you will almost always win, so anyone saying "i lose because my teammates" or "i lose because elo hell" realistically if you just got better at the game, youd climb. Also he had 30 kills, a 3-1 dragon lead, never lost baron, and didnt lose a single tier 3 turret, how is that "barely" being able to carry? The game was not close
I was literally playing shaco jungle only in bronze and silver, I won like 80% of games and I was emerald on main acc back then. You have to understand, that not every game is winnable and it is ok to lose some. And the thing, that statistically bronze is like way below average, should tell you, that if you are hardstuck in bronze, you are just bad. Sorry to hear that.
"I'm going to contribute to the problem, to prove there isn't a problem" is a weird take though.
Dawg i was doing placements for my first ever ranked game the other day, and i was getting emeraldand diamond mmr. I played flex jg and i did okage. Got grubs at 5 mins and drake at 7. We won after 30 mins. But the next game i had same mmr but i lost because i lost to an invade at the beginning. The next game it was bronze and iron. One bad game and i was sent to bronze queue. Like wtf, i never played ranked only draft queue or aram or RGM but wtf man. I climbed out to silver one but its not worth it man. So many smurfs and duos, if nit that than inting teamates because they get one bad play or dont know that they should attack the dps rathar than the tank. Idk man videos like this dont show the greater picture, its easy to be a good player whos used to playing ranked and has good macro, because most of the time they'll make the callouts and the team will follow. Rather than an average player with decent macro and teammates who will sell all items if you tell them what to do, just because you have a lower K.P. One thing people should know is lower elos care more about K.P. rather than objectives and C.S.
TLDR: low elo players are either people who care about K.D rather than objectives, so it's easier for higher elo players to climb when they know how to rotate
Elo hell is silver..
Ahhahaha noo, its easiest one to climb
So many bronzies coping in the comments. There is no elo hell, if you're supposed to be in a higher elo you will get there. For example I'm just a low elo player myself(gold 1) and I can easily reach this elo again on 100 different accounts, I come out of bronze in a day or two every single time. So if you think you're supposed to be in a higher elo then you should be there - if you're not there, then you're not supposed to be there.
Edit: I wanna add; I agree that smurfs are a huge problem, though.
the game is way to much on countermatchups and meta champs + to much comeback mechanics + lesser snowball or punish enemy misstakes = less reward for the better player. it gets worse every season.
i quit ranked of madness season9 as a riven otp dia euw. played only aram and avoided playing riven. when i came back 2 years later i was stuck in gold for legit 300+ games. i told my self to admit i got bad and old and the other players got better. even if meta sucks i shouldnt be gold elo as former long year dia player. i knew i had way more knowledge than my enemies but was unable to carry. suddenly after hundrets of games stuck i just changed my runes to offmeta rune inspiration with extra summs cdr and boots + the new hydra came + bought only ionian boots ingame. this 3 changes was my secret to MAX risk but also MAX snowball. i climbed in 2 weeks with 90% winrate to dia1. legit everygame hardcore with nearly every game perfect score no deaths but high cs and kills + objectives. spammed riven only till dia4 after than i stopped my otp for spamming malphite to dia 1. malph was strong af that meta and didnt need skill or time to learn him. only macro/game knowledge was enough to carry games with him. and even with malph i had hardcore smurf kda. at the end i had master mmr at dia2. lobby with 400lp master (was at night, prob to less player for only low masters) and peak was d1 2 wins from reaching master at that time. i couldnt believe HOW FCKING GOOD i was in comparison to the 300+ stuck in gold. if i wouldnt know myself i would bet that i got boosted but nah it was real. i mean the hardcarry games with that winrate holy not even master players as smurf could do that easyly. i never ever dropped again near gold not even near platin. need legit to int to get to platin. my point is yes there is elohell. and my acc especially s11 is a proof of that. in my opinion elo hell doesnt exist under gold/plat elo (because now emerald is new) but after that its everywhere sometimes more sometimes lesser.
man smurfing as akali and thinks this is proof of anything... lol... lmao even
Prof Akali you are the best streamer ever and keep but the good videos
Average sad league players only flame 0 skill, anyway your akali is amazing and so clean
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clean if you're under emerald
You play only this game all the time, it's easier for you to win vs low elo.
Some people are just naturals when, I first started playing in season 3 I placed in bronze and immediately climbed to plat and some players climb way above that even faster. Ppl that get hardstuck in low elo usually are just not critical thinkers when it comes to game basically they suck and aren't learning from their losses.
@@minime1988 i'm working can't play everyday, and when u have a rammus top 0/16 and u play support, u can't carry anything, and i'm plat, but maybe yeah i'm not the best, but cmon elohell does exist
@@Seedream475 If you're talking about right now, the way ranked distribution has changed platinum rank in todays day and age is probably more like gold 3-4ish in seasons before emerald existed and maybe even lower than that when ranks consisted of 5 tiers instead of 4. I don't think I'm that good even while being top 9-10% but consistency in your own play will prove that elohell exists only if you have a weak mental and you'll eventually end up where your skill is the majority of the time. Obviously we get older and don't have the time to rank up that's a different thing.
@@minime1988 i never pressed surrender button by myself, and i'm always the one who die less than the others, that doesn't mean i win everytime of course, but my toplaners, in every of my games are trolling in negatif KDA like 2/16/5 while i have 2/0/3 at 25 min
I'm even tell them what to do.
I can give you my acc if you want proofs
@@Seedream475send opgg
lmao playing in bronze for content how low can you possibly go?
There’s always iron if you could loan me your main!
If you play champions like yi or akali its possible to carry, but most champions simply cannot 1v5, especially it lower elos it can take a ridiculous number of games in order to overcome the coin flip of teammates
in low elo u can carry with any champ xD?
Give me an account that's iron/bronze and I will carry you with any champ you want while having fun at the same time, even support(enchanter like milio, lulu not a damage supp like zyra, brand). I will laugh my way up to platinum 1 and will struggle a bit to get emerald. I will get stuck in emerald, since here games are literally coinflips from champ select. I never got past emerald, I peaked emerald 2 in past seasons, I believe I get diamond 4 with a bit of luck, I'm definitely not challenger skilled player stuck in emerald, but trust me this is the real elo hell. There are lots of boosted accounts here and lots of smurfs, like every game. As an emerald player, I can tell you even if I trolled every game I couldn't drop into bronze or iron, I don't know how people end up there, unless they are complete beginners at the game or play with insane lag/ping every game.
@@paynehuntersure carry me to silver then
@@El_Pepitooo sure bro no problem, give me ur acc, wherever you are stuck i will launch you into silver no problem. But I can only play on euw/eune
Yes, any champ can carry.
It's just about fundamentals and knowledge. I can carry a fight in Bronze with full yummi or soraka. Dosn't matter the champ.
OFC if you play Riven or Graves you can get 40-50 kills per game. But the point is that you can pick any random champion, for example Tryndamere and just splitpush and take their nexus in 13 minutes in Bronze without having a single kill.
It's all about fundamentals. Using minions dmg, level spikes, lsst hitting, builds knowledge, runes, when to recall, waves managment, map awareness, champions knowledge, cooldowns, tower diving, trading patterns, jungle tracking, spacing, dodge skillshoots, buffer habilities, hit habilities, champions combos, mana/energy usage, cd usage, focus on champions, possition yourself in lanning, possition yourself in teamfights, flanking, front to back, counterpicks, big champion pulls, ... I can keep going...
Bronze players lack 99% of fundamentals. Thats the reasson why a Challenger player will win all Bronze games no matter what.
Even with 4 afks or inters the Challenger player can easily win 1vs9. It's like put a UFC Heavyweight champion against 5 kids. Dosn't matter you have another 4 kids helping you or not. You have so much training that no matter what you are going to win.