Ive worked on Harleys for a living. Im 65 years young now. You hit the mark on your video. Every procedure was shown well on the video and your commentary was dead nut on . Nothing missed. Very informative. A 12 year old could follow your direction. Good job ol chap. Carry on.
I like what he says about working on your own bike. No matter how good a hired mechanic is, there is a pride and confidence that results from stepping up to do the work yourself.
Why don't you run your own shop for about 10 years or so and THEN tell me what you think about people working on their own bike once they end up bringing it to you.
Damn brother, you might be the best at this format I've see on youtube. Just simple to the point without a bunch of useless transition animation or silly catch phrases. Loved this and subscribing.
Great video, great instructuons. Clear and precise. no bullshit guy. As my own mechanic he explains in real terms why you do things a certain way. This will be my gotto chanel for my repairs.👍
You’re a legend my friend. This video got me through my 96” twin cam compensator and tensioner upgrade. Bought an 07 dyna lowrider for a steal of a price because it needed these things, I decided to take it on myself instead of dropping labor at a shop and it all went well with some reference. Thanks for the great detail man.
He obviously knows what he's doing, I always watch for subtle clues. Notice during the crank bolt torque process he DIDN'T use the torque wrench to loosen the bolt. That ruins torque wrenches, they reverse direction for left handed threads (like the clutch nut). Well done, definitely subscribing
The only reason it would ruin the Torque wrench is because he used Red loctite other than that the amount of Torque needed to loosen the bolt should be the same. But I guess it is a good idea to use a breaker bar to loosen bolts or nuts that have a high amount of Torque
My 11 Dyna needs to have this done. After watching this, I will consider doing it myself. I think I have all of the tools necessary. You did an excellent job with this video. You are easily understood and the photography was very good. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Harley should have gone to a belt primary drive decades ago in the late 80s I wrote an early Shovelhead that had a primary belt drive and a secondary belt drive and the bike was smooth as silk most of my British bikes are still running on the original primary chain and tensioner mechanism sometimes Harley engineering makes the British bikes look state-of-the-art even though they've all been dead for fifty years
this showed me exactly how to remove my clutch basket on my m8 harley, minus the differences in torque on the compensator bolt. super easy and informative.
Hey Gary great video 😀 don't know if anyone has asked but apart from the Compensador where can I get my hands on the tool you touched on. I'm have all kinds of problem trying to get on Dark House website. Can you help a fellow wrencher out here? Thanks 👷
@@LateNiteVTwin Like the video Gary, I have a question, I have an 03 FXD 95 in, Darkhorse crank, Joe Mondello heads, Wood .590 cams, 10.5 comp., Was thinking of the plain gear front compensator, just because it's lighter, simpler. What is your opinion of those?
I am a Darkhorse fan. I have put two of these on buddies bikes, one TC Dyna and one M8 RK. They do make a bit of noise. Nothing crazy but definitely noticeable. But you never have to go back to HD for a fix after this. Also, I agree. Working on your own bike really creates a bond with it and a more involved experience. But if you suck at it, it can also kill you. Thanks for the video.
Hey G Dubb! I do not have any experience with Southern Oregon Hot Bikes...... I can say this, a manual chain adjuster is a must in a late twin cam or M8. The design is a failure big time as it does not allow the chain to float with some slack. Chains are not made to be banjo string tight, unlike belts, that need a certain load. Give them a try and let me know, and thanks for stopping in! Glad the video helped out!!!!
@@LateNiteVTwin LOVE YOU VIDEO'S!!!! What's your thoughts on A 2012 SG. 103 ci Rinehart True Duals Arlen Ness Bug Sucker Airfilter Looking to get Screaming Eagle or Dark horse No Racing No Burnouts No Racing Just Cruising. Thanks
@@QBama100 Well, to be honest, the screaming eagle unit is 100 bucks cheaper than the dark horse, but its the design that fails. In my opinion, the dark horse is a way better design, and with a stock 103, it'll last forever and be reliable. ditch the automatic adjuster as well. Hayden makes a really nice unit for that bike, and set the chain slack at 1/2-5/8" and ride worry free!
Interesting compensator story for you...... Road 2 miles to the grocery store came out hit the start... Comp kicked back... Bang.... Hit the starter again...zing zing zing nothing. ... Two and a half hours later and 90 bucks for a tow truck I'm back at home... Pop the primary off... The starter gear exploded into three pieces.... The larger of which got lodged between the primary chain and the clutch hub assembly. After doing all the work myself it still cost me $1,600 to get it back on the road. Baker Comp, new style rotor to allow the baker, Baker manual chain adjuster new chain new clutch hub assembly new starter. Nearly 1500 miles later I just Lost the inner primary bearing so all of it has to come out again. Love your videos keep them coming!!!!
Oh man, sorry to hear you had the compensator blues! Yep, stock ones aren't fun when they wear out. The Baker stuff is a trip shelf part, and you'll enjoy the purchase. Stay tuned for more videos! They're coming!
A+ w/Gold Star and a Smiley Face. Quick in depth explanations. Systematic in sharing his wealth of personal experiences combined with technical data. I have my own years of twin cam experiences, and his sharing of those things that I know to be true line up. Based on that, I trust this gentleman. Great H-D Instructor/Professor.
Stumbled across your channel and I am getting the dark horse for my 131 stage 4 kit I did. I like your attitude towards building and staying attached to your bike in this process. I will be doing this exact upgrade in the near future and just wanted to give ya my thumbs up and ah thanks with ah hell ya 🤘 for this video. Appreciate ya.
Installed the ManOWar on 2012 Glide. 30k miles worth of riding and it's been awesome. Bike has 96k now. About due for the cushion kit. Only noise I get is the trans chatter that they have a service bulletin about. Higher mileage bikes in neutral with the clutch lever out cause a noticeable chatter. No mechanical worries. And it's no big deal to me. I'm a fanatic for short concise videos. It was good you added the time stamps in the description. Thanks.
This is a great idea, and a great video, very helpful, explaining how it works and how to put it together, it is a pity that he has not done more of these projects, I am working on a 2003 Deuce, that has had some work done on it, I am in the process of fitting a new final drive belt, Thank you for sharing your experience, Old English dude living in France,
Grady agree. I just had some minor work on my bike done by the stealership and they charge $120 an hour. Imagine how much this job would have cost in labor by the stealerhip.
Thanks for patiently explaining each step. No fluff, no bias. Just working on a Harley. Very refreshing for us that try to work on our own bikes for the satisfaction and savings. I hope you'll keep doing the videos. I have a 96 inch twin cam in my 2008 cross bones. I will be upgrading it to a 110, changing bars, and this compensator upgrade will be a must. Oh, and I do like the oil cooler video too. May be adding that too! Thanks again
Hi Timothy! Thanks for stopping in! I love the second gen twin cam. I did a 117' in mine, and it rips. I think you'll really enjoy the compensator. Ditch the stock tensioner to. Set the chain and just enjoy the easy shifts and less wear on the inner primary bearing. The oil cooler is an OIL BUD. He is in Helena Montana. great part and it has waaaaaay more cooling capacity than any other oil cooler made for our community. Check him out.
Just came across your channel lately. While I don't ride Harleys anymore I think your new channel is the best on explanation and how to do then anything I have seen to date. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Bob! I try and bring these things to the community to hit two demographics...the first one is the guy who wants to do it yourself, or the one who wants to understand whats going on and a fix with known performance parts and take it to a shop they trust so they don't get burned. Thanks for the kudos and stay tuned for more!
I got same bike like yours & start making those clanking sound when I switch ignition off but start & ride fine without those clank sound ... Do you think this is compensator issue ? Do I need to replace it ? Thanks
Great video. Replaced the comp on my ‘09 Ultra @19,000 miles with a Baker. My stock compensator left me stranded. I knew by the hard hot banging starts and other symptoms, it was on its way but I continued to take the bike out until it quit (dumb). My Ultra is a stock 96” with slip-ons.
I know this video has been around for over a year, but I still enjoyed watching your work. I subscribed. I think your explanations for how things work and why you are doing certain steps are very valuable. Thanks for a great video.
Worked on them all my life been running stock parts on my Ride for over 22 year,s same ride original parts it came with except tenchion,r,s on the timing chain,s the ride has 280 thousand miles on it Rock Out man!!
Well done! Excellent example. Appreciate you. Great explanation. Like talking to an old friend. Glad I found this site. I do all my own work so getting top notch tips and instruction like this is invaluable. Thanks so much!
Dark horse instructions say to use the torx bolt. Since installing my dark horse (using the stock hex bolt) I seem to have a lot of noise. I used the Hayden tensioner, then went back to stock tensioner, still seem to have the noise, almost sounds like a slack chain slap and only when not pulling.
Dude you do incredible instructional videos. You break shit down to the basics for us rookie wrenchers. Love to see a stator video since I’m diving into that soon.
Thank you Gary, Great video! You are a great instructor in that you take your time doing the work while thoroughly explaining how to do it and what to watch out for. Very informative!
The special bolt and oil deflector are recommended but not mandatory. They do come with the kit depending on year of bike. You must ask the dealer if you need these items for your application. I bought mine from Baxters garage and it was delivered without the bolt or deflector even though it should have come with them from Darkhorse. No knock on anyone, I didn't ask the right questions. I just got off the phone with a sales guy at Darkhorse and he is sending me the deflector and bolt as soon as it comes off back order. He told me to put the bike back together and ride it until the next oil change and by then the parts will be delivered. Happy wrenching and great video. It made the job much easier.
Just getting into HD. I just bought a 2012 Softail Deluxe with 2032 Km (1250 miles). Love how straight forward and detailed your videos are. Thank you for sharing them, saving lots of bucks !!
Would love to see a video on upgrading the outer primary that has the oil diverter epoxy’d to it VS the upgraded outer primary with the oil diverter that is cast to the cover!
The early Softails actually had manual primary chain tensioners until and including the ‘06 model year. Superb video tutorial - Bravo! 👍👍 From Southern, California ~ Ride Forever! 🦅
Gary, I'm about to take possession of my first Harley from the H-D motorcycle dealer. I came across your video, watched it, and, now will be thinking of having the compensator replaced before I take possession of the used Harley from the dealer! Thanks so much for your information and the high quality video presentation of the matter! Doug🏍️👍🤓🐻🦁😵
I used my 1/2" ugga dugga to wing the big nut off the compensator, ground off about 1/4" then use all the ugga duggas to lock it down, compensator fixed👍 Running an Ultima belt drive now. To each their own, I didn't buy a Harley to not have vibration, did a balancer delete last fall, can't keep mirrors or signals tight, but I'll be getting the win light at the track. To be fair, good informative video sir👍
I really enjoy how knowledgeable and professional you are through out this video. I subscribed right after watching this video of yours. I would normally never have even contemplated putting a new compensator in myself but now I am going to give it a go.I thought you said you needed 44oz of oil earlier in the video and then you said 45oz but stressed not to over fill, which on should you use? Thanks so much can’t wait to watch more of your upgrade video’s.
Damn man I just found your channel you are right down my alley of the kind of mechanic I like . When you picked up that service manual and said this is the best thing to have when you work on your own bike it hit home , after I bought my 06 Fatboy I went to the stealership and that was the first thing I bought !
Love the video, but I think there may have been a math error: 1qt is 32 (not 38) fluid oz. So, assuming one needs 45 oz fluid for an install in a dry primary, you should have added 13 more oz, not 7.
You are correct Scott.....Good catch. I work the shop by myself, and the manual is correct. You are correct. I did in fact catch that after editing and made the oil level adjustment before delivery. Sorry about that.
@@wolfpack8643 I have a 2014 Dyna low r. I drained my primary change the pressure plate and Springs and change tensioner put the primary back together and mine only took a quart to the bottom of the clutch basket runs fine. After about a 100 miles took the Derby cover off checked level still at the bottom of the clutch basket there is were im leaving it one qt. go figure
@@wolfpack8643 Not the bottom..Actually The outter edge of the basket should just be submerged in the lubrication, on an engine which is leveled and off the jiffy stand.
Have an 03 Roadking screaming eagle cvo. Bought new n always hung onto it inspire of many Harleys n customs that have passed through my garage. Now retired n partially broken , I appreciate the comfort it provides me plus its just badass n quick as running snot. Few videos pertaining to the 103 would be appreciated. Thanks bro, keep doing your thing. Your good at it, and don't start shortening the videos when you get super rich n famous. That would such, so many others have done that. Just proves to me they forget the fans. Turn that f n throttle
Liked and subscribed Brother. What you do is great! Hard to find such experienced people that have the heart to share their craft! Would you recommend this on a 2020 Ultra? If so any other recommendations while I'm in there. Your video has giving me confidence to try this out. Haha. Hope I'm not over doing myself.
Hello Anthony! First, thanks for stopping in! If you get the service manual, then everything is in there to help guide you as to how it all comes apart and goes back together. There are special tools, and some details I don't cover as they would make my videos 5 hours long and people would lose interest. I always state to have a manual present. So, with that. as far as upgrades, Any Harely always benefits to a nice cam. Which cam you choose depends on riding style and expected performance.Never over cam, as you will do more damage to the bikes performance and your wallet. Choose a good exhaust, of your liking, the Vance and Hines power duals are great torque builders, and the Basani Road Rage is one of my favorite two into one systems. I think just doing some simple research on the inter web is always a good place to start. Read reviews, and set your expectations a bit lower. You can't believe how may of my customers come in for a cam job, and say.....well, the book says it will do this! The specs are in a controlled setting and they don't give you compression ratio's, or head specs. and exhaust specs. They just say the cam will do this...... I think a well thought out bike is a well designed bike and if you have a goal, like touring, and extra weight, then build your bike for those duties and you can't loose. If it's a bar hopper and drag racing machine, then you're in a whole different world. Like I always say, plan your work, then work the plan. If I can help, drop me a line and I'll do what I can!
I called Dark Horse just now about the factory compensator bolt versus the Screamin Eagle Torx bolt and they said the Torx bolt from the SE assembly will work just fine. Their customer support is top notch.
Agreed. The MoCo knows the comp is a POS but they keep putting it in. Total bull💩. The alignment should never change - no need to check unless you're putting something in behind the clutch or comp. Or if something went back in wrong.
@@gdubbsmotolife9713 I’ve seen that the M8 comps are completely breaking and not just wearing out like the twin cam. Looks like Harley is just going further in the wrong direction. With the EVOs there wasn’t many issues but the twin cam issues and even worse with the M8.
Tech Tip, I find a lot of pressure being placed on the primary drive using the single wedge between the sprocket and chain. As a solution, especially when torqing the compensator nut, I presonally found that if I use another wedge between the primary case and outer surface of the primary drive directly opposite of the one used on the inside of the drive (chain or belt) the second wedge limits the movement of the inner wedge and transfers the force from the clutch hub basket bearing to the primary case minimizing the stress on the drive chain or belt
Awesome video I stumped across very knowledgeable step by step suggestions right Tool’s to accomplish job done correctly. Very good to share, thank you! Keep them coming.
First saw this video over 10x ago 😂in 2021 during COVID shutdown. I wanted you to know Gary, “I trusted in myself”. Thanks Shipmate…hope there is a not an unfortunate reason why you stopped posting that year. ☮️ & 💗 to you and yours Shipmate. SKWID Rider’s Shipmate ET1(SS/SW/MTS) US Navy, Ret. Killmonger: 2020 Fat Boy (Stage II+ by Blockhead) SilverBAK: 2021 Road Glide (S&S 129ci/Fueling Race Kit by the Rider’s Shipmate) 😉 (w/ Man-O-War Sprocket & Evolution Stage 1 Clutch)
@Late Nite V Twin, what clutch assembly do you have? Including the clutch plates. I'm going to be changing my compensator and now I'm going to buy the Dark Horse one, because the bushings look like it will be a lot quieter. Thank you for an easy to follow video.
All of these issues with chain tensioners and compensators as well as faulty cam chest components gets pretty frustrating after while. As a guy who loves his Harley even I am starting to question them. For a "premium brand" all of this crap should have been a recall not something that's dumped on the customers lap. Or better yet, designed and tested properly in the first place.
I got my first HD recently and im thinking the same thing. People can say whatever about metrics but i can tell you what ive never had to do anything other than basic maintenance on them. Obviously their drawbacks are lackluster resale value. The aftermarket for most metrics isnt great at all. But as far as reliability? Its very very hard to beat a Japanese bike.
@@helpcurecatholicism When I had my 883 Sportster it didn't have any of the problems that the big twin Harleys have. That bike was every bit as reliable as any one of my Japanese bikes that I've owned in the past. If they just made a bigger version of that engine for the big Harleys that would be the perfect Harley for me.
Gary, I love your detailed descriptions and explanations. I think, after seeing lots of repair video's, that you are one of the more experienced ones. An expert, great explainer. I used to never repair my bike myself, (multiple BMW's), but since I own a custom Harley (1989 FLHTC), I had to solve many problems, watched RUclips, read the book, and succeeded! (broken starter housing, replacement solenoid and wiring harnes. Replaced my stator and volt. regulator. The nut holding the compensator sprocket was tightened really fast, I guess more than 200 pounds/sq. foot! I now have a problem when I tighten it to 150 pounds/sq.foot. It's not holding and making noise. So,I guess another try, making extra sure everything is really clean end not worn out. After that another 2 minor issues, but I love working on my bike!
@@LateNiteVTwin ----> I had my Local Harley dealership install the Man of War engine sprocket while I waited for it to be installed. I then trailered my RGU home and unloaded it. I took a 48-mile test ride to see if the Man O War engine sprocket eliminated the clunking in the first four gears and I couldn't feel and hear any difference in the clunking. Because the Man O War engine sprocket is two and a half pounds lighter than the stock compensator my 114 engine does seem to rev up a little quicker now. The lead mechanic at my local Harley dealership told me that laid a straight edge across the Man O War engine sprocket and the stock Harley clutch and it was within.010.
@@James-fk2sb -----> I called Dark Horse Crank Works where I bought the Man O war engine sprocket from and they told me that I could still use the stock Harley primary chain tensioner. When I called them and told them that the top mechanic at the Harley dealership had put a straight edge across the Man O war engine sprocket and the stock clutch basket and the run-out was .010, Dark Horse then told me that I could have other issues that were causing the clunking sound when I shift from 1-4 gears..
Very informative, I upgraded my SE compensator with a Fueling upgraded spring and a SE manual primary chain adjuster which was cheaper than a full rebuild as my wear was minimal, I also, when the bike is level visually fill the primary so the oil just kisses the lower portion of the pressure plate, this works well for me
I wish I would have watched this video before I took my bike to the shop.Gary made this VERY easy to understand.I will be sending you more questions on my 103
If you are looking for a next video, I would like to see a video of noise isolation and diagnosis. Engine vs primary vs tranny. Looks like you only made a few videos a year ago. I hope every thing is well with you and you are just busy because now everybody knows what a great mechanic looks like!
Excellent video, man. Thanks. Well articulated and easy pace. Easy to follow and understand. Highlighting the all the critical points. Shattered my stock compensator during an aggressive ride with a 117 Stage 3ed with a really good tune. 130x120hp. Cheers.
Ha really appreciate the time you spent explaining things I grew up on r60 bmws. Just bought a 2016 ultra classic from my sister and brother in law. My uncle Bryce used to ride with his brother Dale wilson Mr. Penton and cooney baker baker from Norwalk ohio. I will buy this I drained the oil out when I bought the bike and told Mel it had a metallic color . I like all bikes. You are awesome. Old school is what you are.
Very nice tutorial, I can see that you are more than competent. And you have the patience to do things right and by the book with tourque wrenches and specs that are quite helpful to the average Joe trying to repair or upgrade their bike. He'll im thinking of installing the dark horse comp on my old Evo lowrider " just cuz" I don't wanna be wrenching, I wanna be ridin with a smoother and better designed component. You know I can't believe that HD never thought to design a better compensator all these many years, if you look at old 70s ricers, the rear wheel sprocket drive has nibs on the sprocket hub, and cavities in the wheel hub with little rubber shock absorbers in between. This is what Dark horse has done for the compensator. Truthfully I'm surprised that I didn't think of this myself but I don't change them because I don't abuse Mt Harleys, I just cruise and enjoy the symphony of sound and soak up the scenery, to me that's what they really were made for, big bikes to cross a big country🤙👍
First off...love the video....I have an 08 road king..little over 14k miles. Started having some clunking on start up and shut off. Several folks identified the problem as the compensator...so I researched....actually found forums and videos with issues I was having....so I parked the bike. Ordered a twin power compensator.... through research they are a replica of a screaming eagle comp with a drag specialties rotor...I watched your video more times than I can tell you... Did the swap. Put it all back together. All torque values correct and double checked....it took forever to start....lil back fire thru throttle body...then it started and it idled like it had huge cams in it...and they are stock...it was a vibrating hard type idle. And now it seems my starter is trying to go out....battery is hitting 12.5v not running....14v running...no burn or black marks on stator....any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated....I am pretty mechanical...also went to mmi Orlando for about 6months. Didn't get to finish ...family problems... Anyway. Look forward to hearing from ya and thanks
Hi Jason, I have to ask, so you changed the compensator only, and you have these issues??? You state you put the twin power unit in? Did you pul the codes through the speedo to see if there were any? I live in California, not sure where you are located. Here's my number! Give me a call....530-864-5370
@@LateNiteVTwin I did not check the codes. I will do that in the morning. Write them and get back with you...in Louisiana....had to postpone bike work for a lil bit of house work from ice storm we jus had. Busted pipes leaking in the roof due to ice. But all is good....I will see if there are codes and get back with ya. Thanks again
@@jasontaylor5442 Man, I feel your pain on the ice storms. My sister lives in Texas......If you are running the stock adjuster, I would highly recommend ditching that piece and putting in a manual one. Its going to save you a ton of money by not wearing the primary bearing, and trans bearings out. Let me know when you pull the codes and I can see if we can help you out!
@@LateNiteVTwin no codes at all.... Some friends of mine asked me if I let the compensator spin around while loosening the bolt to it and clutch basket. The bar I had in there did slip and the original compensator did spin around...they told me it couldve caused it get out of time?? Have you heard of this?
I took your advice and bought the dark horse unit. My bike is day and night different. Much quieter and smoother. Wanted the Haden adjuster but no one one, so running the stoke one for now.
Good job Gary. You had HD 30041-08A in behind S creaming Eagle comp? Dark Horse recommends a HD torrent bolt but you were correct drop supplied HD bolt water and use stock. You didn't go over Engine Sprocket alignment procedure to determine that the Sprockets were true. But you have the best video on RUclips
I did this job last year. Its not too difficult for most that have basic mechanical know how. I chose the Baker compinsator with the Haden spring loaded chain tensioner. I wish I saw the Man-o-war first, i would have with that for sure. Race bikes have used the rubber in their rear wheel hubs for decades with great success.
Great video, looking forward to more in the future. Defiantly invest in a service manual if you are going to do your own wrenching. The first Harley I bought was a new 1973 SuperGlide FX, back in the AMF days, and they required a lot of wrenching. I was in the military then and didn't have money to take it to the dealer, so the first 'accessory' I bought was a service manual and taught myself how to wrench on 'Rosie', that was the name given to my first Harley-Davidson. I now wrench my 2000 FLSTC.
I have the same manual adjuster set at half an inch,turning the motor over to make sure there wasn’t a measurement issues,had a small bit of humming that has dissipated since I’ve been riding…. Bike runs really well minus the clunking…… thank you very much for the video and the input
Great video on compensators , lots of very useful information. Thank you for putting these out for those of us who work on our own rides. Like your style
Man! Great video I don't ride a Harley but i have friends that do and with watching this video I believe i can put a Compensator Sprocket In my friends 06 Road King Trike. I do know how to turn some wrenches and I can read manuals. Thanks Gary. You got you a New Subscriber.
Ive worked on Harleys for a living. Im 65 years young now. You hit the mark on your video. Every procedure was shown well on the video and your commentary was dead nut on . Nothing missed. Very informative. A 12 year old could follow your direction.
Good job ol chap. Carry on.
I like what he says about working on your own bike. No matter how good a hired mechanic is, there is a pride and confidence that results from stepping up to do the work yourself.
Why don't you run your own shop for about 10 years or so and THEN tell me what you think about people working on their own bike once they end up bringing it to you.
Oh? How would that be helpful? @@WisdomVendor1
I feeling confidence of doing this job from the straight talk, he gives us.
Damn brother, you might be the best at this format I've see on youtube. Just simple to the point without a bunch of useless transition animation or silly catch phrases. Loved this and subscribing.
You are the first person to mention 45 ozs in a completely dry primary. Thanks for stating that information! You just saved me a major problem.
Dude seems extremely knowledgeable about Harley maintenance and upgrade capability.
Excellent video, no stupid loud music playing, no bad language to be hip, just clear instruction.
This gentleman obviously knows what he's doing, work of art, you definitely put some love into it bro, Great vid 👍
I enjoyed watching this video. I like how he’s polite and detailed in explaining step by step. Great video thanks 🙏🏻
Great video, great instructuons. Clear and precise. no bullshit guy. As my own mechanic he explains in real terms why you do things a certain way. This will be my gotto chanel for my repairs.👍
@@durrellmartin6885 I couldn't agree with you more.
I agree. Very well done.
I’m in agreement with this. He makes it seem so easy, and explains every so well. Thumbs up here!!!
Great video ,great instructions! Very well explained.
I like this guy he seems like a real dude and obviously knows exactly what he's talking about, I'm subscribing .
You’re a legend my friend. This video got me through my 96” twin cam compensator and tensioner upgrade. Bought an 07 dyna lowrider for a steal of a price because it needed these things, I decided to take it on myself instead of dropping labor at a shop and it all went well with some reference. Thanks for the great detail man.
He obviously knows what he's doing, I always watch for subtle clues. Notice during the crank bolt torque process he DIDN'T use the torque wrench to loosen the bolt. That ruins torque wrenches, they reverse direction for left handed threads (like the clutch nut). Well done, definitely subscribing
The only reason it would ruin the Torque wrench is because he used Red loctite other than that the amount of Torque needed to loosen the bolt should be the same. But I guess it is a good idea to use a breaker bar to loosen bolts or nuts that have a high amount of Torque
I like the confident and precise way you present the upgrades and explain it. Very well done
My 11 Dyna needs to have this done. After watching this, I will consider doing it myself. I think I have all of the tools necessary. You did an excellent job with this video. You are easily understood and the photography was very good. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Thanks for taking us on a detailed and outstanding explanation of the step by step procedure of installation of compensator and clutch basket.
Glad you enjoyed the video! I hope it helped you out!
Harley should have gone to a belt primary drive decades ago in the late 80s I wrote an early Shovelhead that had a primary belt drive and a secondary belt drive and the bike was smooth as silk most of my British bikes are still running on the original primary chain and tensioner mechanism sometimes Harley engineering makes the British bikes look state-of-the-art even though they've all been dead for fifty years
this showed me exactly how to remove my clutch basket on my m8 harley, minus the differences in torque on the compensator bolt. super easy and informative.
This guy is the best I like the details he is very easy to understand..Best video so far👍👍👌👌👌
Thanks for stopping in Stanley! I appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey Gary great video 😀 don't know if anyone has asked but apart from the Compensador where can I get my hands on the tool you touched on. I'm have all kinds of problem trying to get on Dark House website. Can you help a fellow wrencher out here? Thanks 👷
I agree!!!!
@@LateNiteVTwin Like the video Gary, I have a question, I have an 03 FXD 95 in, Darkhorse crank, Joe Mondello heads, Wood .590 cams, 10.5 comp., Was thinking of the plain gear front compensator, just because it's lighter, simpler. What is your opinion of those?
I am a Darkhorse fan. I have put two of these on buddies bikes, one TC Dyna and one M8 RK. They do make a bit of noise. Nothing crazy but definitely noticeable. But you never have to go back to HD for a fix after this.
Also, I agree. Working on your own bike really creates a bond with it and a more involved experience. But if you suck at it, it can also kill you.
Thanks for the video.
That’s what I want too. Maybe this winter
Awesome explanations of what you're doing. I've watched a few comp replacement videos and yours is among the best for sure.
Hey G Dubb! I do not have any experience with Southern Oregon Hot Bikes...... I can say this, a manual chain adjuster is a must in a late twin cam or M8. The design is a failure big time as it does not allow the chain to float with some slack. Chains are not made to be banjo string tight, unlike belts, that need a certain load. Give them a try and let me know, and thanks for stopping in! Glad the video helped out!!!!
@@LateNiteVTwin
LOVE YOU VIDEO'S!!!!
What's your thoughts on
A 2012 SG.
103 ci
Rinehart True Duals
Arlen Ness Bug Sucker Airfilter
Looking to get Screaming Eagle or Dark horse
No Racing No Burnouts No Racing
Just Cruising.
Thanks
@@QBama100 Well, to be honest, the screaming eagle unit is 100 bucks cheaper than the dark horse, but its the design that fails. In my opinion, the dark horse is a way better design, and with a stock 103, it'll last forever and be reliable. ditch the automatic adjuster as well. Hayden makes a really nice unit for that bike, and set the chain slack at 1/2-5/8" and ride worry free!
@@LateNiteVTwin THANKS
a trick : you can watch movies on Kaldrostream. I've been using it for watching all kinds of movies these days.
Interesting compensator story for you...... Road 2 miles to the grocery store came out hit the start... Comp kicked back... Bang.... Hit the starter again...zing zing zing nothing. ... Two and a half hours later and 90 bucks for a tow truck I'm back at home... Pop the primary off... The starter gear exploded into three pieces.... The larger of which got lodged between the primary chain and the clutch hub assembly. After doing all the work myself it still cost me $1,600 to get it back on the road. Baker Comp, new style rotor to allow the baker, Baker manual chain adjuster new chain new clutch hub assembly new starter. Nearly 1500 miles later I just Lost the inner primary bearing so all of it has to come out again. Love your videos keep them coming!!!!
Oh man, sorry to hear you had the compensator blues! Yep, stock ones aren't fun when they wear out. The Baker stuff is a trip shelf part, and you'll enjoy the purchase. Stay tuned for more videos! They're coming!
A+ w/Gold Star and a Smiley Face. Quick in depth explanations. Systematic in sharing his wealth of personal experiences combined with technical data. I have my own years of twin cam experiences, and his sharing of those things that I know to be true line up. Based on that, I trust this gentleman. Great H-D Instructor/Professor.
Thank you Lance! Glad you stopped in!
Stumbled across your channel and I am getting the dark horse for my 131 stage 4 kit I did. I like your attitude towards building and staying attached to your bike in this process. I will be doing this exact upgrade in the near future and just wanted to give ya my thumbs up and ah thanks with ah hell ya 🤘 for this video. Appreciate ya.
Excellent video, gentleman’s a natural teacher, thank you!
Installed the ManOWar on 2012 Glide. 30k miles worth of riding and it's been awesome. Bike has 96k now. About due for the cushion kit. Only noise I get is the trans chatter that they have a service bulletin about. Higher mileage bikes in neutral with the clutch lever out cause a noticeable chatter. No mechanical worries. And it's no big deal to me.
I'm a fanatic for short concise videos. It was good you added the time stamps in the description. Thanks.
You are a great tool wrencher. You know your stuff. Thanks for showing us the right way to repair the Harley.
This is a great idea, and a great video, very helpful, explaining how it works and how to put it together, it is a pity that he has not done more of these projects, I am working on a 2003 Deuce, that has had some work done on it, I am in the process of fitting a new final drive belt,
Thank you for sharing your experience, Old English dude living in France,
Great video, definitely making me more eager to tackle these jobs myself over paying a shop.
Grady agree. I just had some minor work on my bike done by the stealership and they charge $120 an hour. Imagine how much this job would have cost in labor by the stealerhip.
Thanks for patiently explaining each step. No fluff, no bias. Just working on a Harley.
Very refreshing for us that try to work on our own bikes for the satisfaction and savings.
I hope you'll keep doing the videos.
I have a 96 inch twin cam in my 2008 cross bones. I will be upgrading it to a 110, changing bars, and this compensator upgrade will be a must. Oh, and I do like the oil cooler video too. May be adding that too!
Thanks again
Hi Timothy! Thanks for stopping in! I love the second gen twin cam. I did a 117' in mine, and it rips. I think you'll really enjoy the compensator. Ditch the stock tensioner to. Set the chain and just enjoy the easy shifts and less wear on the inner primary bearing. The oil cooler is an OIL BUD. He is in Helena Montana. great part and it has waaaaaay more cooling capacity than any other oil cooler made for our community. Check him out.
In Thailand on Koh Phi Phi watching this and the wife asked why. Somethings can not be explained. Very good vid!
Very nice to see someone work with precision and attention. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
Just came across your channel lately. While I don't ride Harleys anymore I think your new channel is the best on explanation and how to do then anything I have seen to date. Keep up the great work.
Thank you Bob! I try and bring these things to the community to hit two demographics...the first one is the guy who wants to do it yourself, or the one who wants to understand whats going on and a fix with known performance parts and take it to a shop they trust so they don't get burned. Thanks for the kudos and stay tuned for more!
I put a mam-o-war compensator and hayden M6 BT07 antomatically adjusts primary chain tensioner in my 2012 (103) road king classic and doing GREAT.
I got same bike like yours & start making those clanking sound when I switch ignition off but start & ride fine without those clank sound ... Do you think this is compensator issue ? Do I need to replace it ? Thanks
I'll be doing the same upgrade as yours when the time comes. My 2012 (103) FLHX has 30,869 miles and all is well.
My 2012 FLHTK hit 30k and it needed the Dark horse along with a complete cam chest replacement.
Great video. Replaced the comp on my ‘09 Ultra @19,000 miles with a Baker. My stock compensator left me stranded. I knew by the hard hot banging starts and other symptoms, it was on its way but I continued to take the bike out until it quit (dumb). My Ultra is a stock 96” with slip-ons.
I know this video has been around for over a year, but I still enjoyed watching your work. I subscribed. I think your explanations for how things work and why you are doing certain steps are very valuable. Thanks for a great video.
Worked on them all my life been running stock parts on my Ride for over 22 year,s same ride original parts it came with except tenchion,r,s on the timing chain,s the ride has 280 thousand miles on it Rock Out man!!
Well done! Excellent example. Appreciate you. Great explanation. Like talking to an old friend. Glad I found this site. I do all my own work so getting top notch tips and instruction like this is invaluable. Thanks so much!
This is the most comprehensive install video I've ever watched. Will make the replacement on my 07 superglide a breeze. Thanks man.
Thank you for making the time to make videos, huge help to all of us, cheers...
Glad the video helps William! Thanks for stopping in!
Dark horse instructions say to use the torx bolt. Since installing my dark horse (using the stock hex bolt) I seem to have a lot of noise. I used the Hayden tensioner, then went back to stock tensioner, still seem to have the noise, almost sounds like a slack chain slap and only when not pulling.
Dude you do incredible instructional videos. You break shit down to the basics for us rookie wrenchers. Love to see a stator video since I’m diving into that soon.
Instructional vids on wrenching on your expensive toys gets no better . Easy to follow and concise . Great job . Subscribing .
Thank you Gary, Great video! You are a great instructor in that you take your time doing the work while thoroughly explaining how to do it and what to watch out for. Very informative!
Thank you Wayne!
The special bolt and oil deflector are recommended but not mandatory. They do come with the kit depending on year of bike. You must ask the dealer if you need these items for your application. I bought mine from Baxters garage and it was delivered without the bolt or deflector even though it should have come with them from Darkhorse. No knock on anyone, I didn't ask the right questions. I just got off the phone with a sales guy at Darkhorse and he is sending me the deflector and bolt as soon as it comes off back order. He told me to put the bike back together and ride it until the next oil change and by then the parts will be delivered. Happy wrenching and great video. It made the job much easier.
Well, I'm not looking for anymore mechanics to watch and learn from. Subscribed for sure, thanks for the excellent video and details.
Thanks for the subscribe, and I'm glad you stopped in! I hope some of this is helpful!
Just getting into HD. I just bought a 2012 Softail Deluxe with 2032 Km (1250 miles). Love how straight forward and detailed your videos are. Thank you for sharing them, saving lots of bucks !!
Would love to see a video on upgrading the outer primary that has the oil diverter epoxy’d to it VS the upgraded outer primary with the oil diverter that is cast to the cover!
The early Softails actually had manual primary chain tensioners until and including the ‘06 model year. Superb video tutorial - Bravo! 👍👍
From Southern, California ~ Ride Forever! 🦅
Great vid...glad I'm happy with the stock motor otherwise I'd go broke replacing all these go fast goodies. Hope for great success to your channel.
Thank you Len! We try and help the community out as much as possible
Gary, I'm about to take possession of my first Harley from the H-D motorcycle dealer. I came across your video, watched it, and, now will be thinking of having the compensator replaced before I take possession of the used Harley from the dealer! Thanks so much for your information and the high quality video presentation of the matter! Doug🏍️👍🤓🐻🦁😵
Another really well-done video! Great explanations of each step!
Thanks Joe!!!! I appreciate it!
@@LateNiteVTwin You Made a Great Video Man
I used my 1/2" ugga dugga to wing the big nut off the compensator, ground off about 1/4" then use all the ugga duggas to lock it down, compensator fixed👍
Running an Ultima belt drive now.
To each their own, I didn't buy a Harley to not have vibration, did a balancer delete last fall, can't keep mirrors or signals tight, but I'll be getting the win light at the track.
To be fair, good informative video sir👍
I really enjoy how knowledgeable and professional you are through out this video. I subscribed right after watching this video of yours. I would normally never have even contemplated putting a new compensator in myself but now I am going to give it a go.I thought you said you needed 44oz of oil earlier in the video and then you said 45oz but stressed not to over fill, which on should you use?
Thanks so much can’t wait to watch more of your upgrade video’s.
Great video but need to check teeth alignment between the comp and clutch. Thanks.
Right on! Great to know that someone on YT knows their chit!
Damn man I just found your channel you are right down my alley of the kind of mechanic I like . When you picked up that service manual and said this is the best thing to have when you work on your own bike it hit home , after I bought my 06 Fatboy I went to the stealership and that was the first thing I bought !
Love the video, but I think there may have been a math error: 1qt is 32 (not 38) fluid oz. So, assuming one needs 45 oz fluid for an install in a dry primary, you should have added 13 more oz, not 7.
You are correct Scott.....Good catch. I work the shop by myself, and the manual is correct. You are correct. I did in fact catch that after editing and made the oil level adjustment before delivery. Sorry about that.
exactly. I caight that also. having said that, I still subscribed. this guy is just right.
@@wolfpack8643 oil displacement on road king from what I've heard causes that.
@@wolfpack8643 I have a 2014 Dyna low r. I drained my primary change the pressure plate and Springs and change tensioner put the primary back together and mine only took a quart to the bottom of the clutch basket runs fine. After about a 100 miles took the Derby cover off checked level still at the bottom of the clutch basket there is were im leaving it one qt. go figure
@@wolfpack8643 Not the bottom..Actually The outter edge of the basket should just be submerged in the lubrication, on an engine which is leveled and off the jiffy stand.
Have an 03 Roadking screaming eagle cvo. Bought new n always hung onto it inspire of many Harleys n customs that have passed through my garage. Now retired n partially broken , I appreciate the comfort it provides me plus its just badass n quick as running snot. Few videos pertaining to the 103 would be appreciated. Thanks bro, keep doing your thing. Your good at it, and don't start shortening the videos when you get super rich n famous. That would such, so many others have done that. Just proves to me they forget the fans. Turn that f n throttle
Liked and subscribed Brother. What you do is great! Hard to find such experienced people that have the heart to share their craft!
Would you recommend this on a 2020 Ultra? If so any other recommendations while I'm in there. Your video has giving me confidence to try this out. Haha. Hope I'm not over doing myself.
Hello Anthony! First, thanks for stopping in! If you get the service manual, then everything is in there to help guide you as to how it all comes apart and goes back together. There are special tools, and some details I don't cover as they would make my videos 5 hours long and people would lose interest. I always state to have a manual present. So, with that. as far as upgrades, Any Harely always benefits to a nice cam. Which cam you choose depends on riding style and expected performance.Never over cam, as you will do more damage to the bikes performance and your wallet. Choose a good exhaust, of your liking, the Vance and Hines power duals are great torque builders, and the Basani Road Rage is one of my favorite two into one systems. I think just doing some simple research on the inter web is always a good place to start. Read reviews, and set your expectations a bit lower. You can't believe how may of my customers come in for a cam job, and say.....well, the book says it will do this! The specs are in a controlled setting and they don't give you compression ratio's, or head specs. and exhaust specs. They just say the cam will do this...... I think a well thought out bike is a well designed bike and if you have a goal, like touring, and extra weight, then build your bike for those duties and you can't loose. If it's a bar hopper and drag racing machine, then you're in a whole different world. Like I always say, plan your work, then work the plan. If I can help, drop me a line and I'll do what I can!
I called Dark Horse just now about the factory compensator bolt versus the Screamin Eagle Torx bolt and they said the Torx bolt from the SE assembly will work just fine. Their customer support is top notch.
Harley Should have done this upgrade from the factory--also, should you not check "alignment" from the compensator to the clutch basket?
Agreed. The MoCo knows the comp is a POS but they keep putting it in. Total bull💩. The alignment should never change - no need to check unless you're putting something in behind the clutch or comp. Or if something went back in wrong.
@@gdubbsmotolife9713 I’ve seen that the M8 comps are completely breaking and not just wearing out like the twin cam. Looks like Harley is just going further in the wrong direction. With the EVOs there wasn’t many issues but the twin cam issues and even worse with the M8.
Tech Tip,
I find a lot of pressure being placed on the primary drive using the single wedge between the sprocket and chain. As a solution, especially when torqing the compensator nut, I presonally found that if I use another wedge between the primary case and outer surface of the primary drive directly opposite of the one used on the inside of the drive (chain or belt) the second wedge limits the movement of the inner wedge and transfers the force from the clutch hub basket bearing to the primary case minimizing the stress on the drive chain or belt
I get your Thinking.. But how much Tensión is on all that when doing a Burn out, Wheelie, Lugging or Banging Gears.?? ✌️
@Late Nite V Twin Tell me about the monster breaker bar/ratchet setup. Gotta have one!
Hi Ed! It's a Snap On unit that is the 3/4 drive. The unit has interchangeable length bars for real leverage!
Awesome video I stumped across very knowledgeable step by step suggestions right Tool’s to accomplish job done correctly. Very good to share, thank you! Keep them coming.
Just found your channel. Great content!!
Thanks for dropping in Dave!
First saw this video over 10x ago 😂in 2021 during COVID shutdown. I wanted you to know Gary, “I trusted in myself”. Thanks Shipmate…hope there is a not an unfortunate reason why you stopped posting that year. ☮️ & 💗 to you and yours Shipmate.
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@Late Nite V Twin, what clutch assembly do you have? Including the clutch plates. I'm going to be changing my compensator and now I'm going to buy the Dark Horse one, because the bushings look like it will be a lot quieter. Thank you for an easy to follow video.
Did you ever figure out the amount of oil you put in the primary was 6oz short?
Yes Kelly, it was an error on my part in the video and we caught it before the bike left the shop
Was that 6 additional ounces added to the dry service of 45 ounces or both?
@@slgarra3985 LOL! No? 32oz + 7 oz. = 39 oz. Then? Plus 6oz. = 45 oz. That was a good "catch" by Kelly vold.
Gary , your one hellava guy , your thorough wen it comes to explaining on "HOW TO" . Love your video on replacing the compensator.
All of these issues with chain tensioners and compensators as well as faulty cam chest components gets pretty frustrating after while. As a guy who loves his Harley even I am starting to question them.
For a "premium brand" all of this crap should have been a recall not something that's dumped on the customers lap. Or better yet, designed and tested properly in the first place.
I got my first HD recently and im thinking the same thing. People can say whatever about metrics but i can tell you what ive never had to do anything other than basic maintenance on them.
Obviously their drawbacks are lackluster resale value. The aftermarket for most metrics isnt great at all. But as far as reliability? Its very very hard to beat a Japanese bike.
@@helpcurecatholicism When I had my 883 Sportster it didn't have any of the problems that the big twin Harleys have. That bike was every bit as reliable as any one of my Japanese bikes that I've owned in the past. If they just made a bigger version of that engine for the big Harleys that would be the perfect Harley for me.
Gary, I love your detailed descriptions and explanations. I think, after seeing lots of repair video's, that you are one of the more experienced ones. An expert, great explainer.
I used to never repair my bike myself, (multiple BMW's), but since I own a custom Harley (1989 FLHTC), I had to solve many problems, watched RUclips, read the book, and succeeded! (broken starter housing, replacement solenoid and wiring harnes. Replaced my stator and volt. regulator. The nut holding the compensator sprocket was tightened really fast, I guess more than 200 pounds/sq. foot! I now have a problem when I tighten it to 150 pounds/sq.foot. It's not holding and making noise. So,I guess another try, making extra sure everything is really clean end not worn out. After that another 2 minor issues, but I love working on my bike!
I would like to know what you think about it after riding
Art, I can tell you it's a HUGE difference than any of the units I've owned. Zero noise, smooth pull and shifting. I'm impressed so far....
@@LateNiteVTwin ---->
I had my Local Harley dealership install the Man of War engine sprocket while I waited for it to be installed. I then trailered my RGU home and unloaded it. I took a 48-mile test ride to see if the Man O War engine sprocket eliminated the clunking in the first four gears and I couldn't feel and hear any difference in the clunking. Because the Man O War engine sprocket is two and a half pounds lighter than the stock compensator my 114 engine does seem to rev up a little quicker now. The lead mechanic at my local Harley dealership told me that laid a straight edge across the Man O War engine sprocket and the stock Harley clutch and it was within.010.
Perfect video. You have a natural talent for teaching. Very good that you stress important details and correct tools !!
Thank you !
@@amphibdriver1
What primary tensioner do you have installed ?
@@James-fk2sb -----> I called Dark Horse Crank Works where I bought the Man O war engine sprocket from and they told me that I could still use the stock Harley primary chain tensioner. When I called them and told them that the top mechanic at the Harley dealership had put a straight edge across the Man O war engine sprocket and the stock clutch basket and the run-out was .010, Dark Horse then told me that I could have other issues that were causing the clunking sound when I shift from 1-4 gears..
could you do a video to address the many options available for the cam chain tensioner issues including a R/R? thanks!
For a “premium “ brand that we’re expected to pay a more than premium price for, there seems to be a ton of shit we’re supposed to “upgrade”.
Yeah, we buy the "legend" and then pay twice to upgrade what the factory hasn't addressed. I feel your pain
I have 100k miles on my Ultra limited twin cam with stock motor and have only had to replace throttle sensor. Keeping them serviced and ride them.
Everyone is required to understand that H-D is a t-shirt company that sells incomplete motorcycles. 😉
@@WrenchDevil6 😧😲😬
Perfect reason to drive a Honda :D
I wish all how to videos were this detailed. This is a definite 10 out of 10.
you do realize you're using the image of a pedophile
17:44 "...That's weird". "Yep, that's the Harley way". :-)
Very informative, I upgraded my SE compensator with a Fueling upgraded spring and a SE manual primary chain adjuster which was cheaper than a full rebuild as my wear was minimal, I also, when the bike is level visually fill the primary so the oil just kisses the lower portion of the pressure plate, this works well for me
Great job thx!!
Thank you for stopping in!
I wish I would have watched this video before I took my bike to the shop.Gary made this VERY easy to understand.I will be sending you more questions on my 103
Thank you for stopping by Cheryl! Anytime I can help let me know
Buy one cry once
Do you check in more then one spot of clutch rotation.?
Twin cam swaps
Great information, enjoyed stopping by the garage have a blessed week my friend.
Fabulous explanation of all required steps. Top notch 👍
This guy knows his stuff,I can only hope my shop wrencher is half as good as him.
So nice to see an expert at work! Awesome video Sir!
Really good speaker, Articulate, emphasis on the components relative to the operation is on point.
If you are looking for a next video, I would like to see a video of noise isolation and diagnosis. Engine vs primary vs tranny. Looks like you only made a few videos a year ago. I hope every thing is well with you and you are just busy because now everybody knows what a great mechanic looks like!
Excellent video, man. Thanks. Well articulated and easy pace. Easy to follow and understand. Highlighting the all the critical points. Shattered my stock compensator during an aggressive ride with a 117 Stage 3ed with a really good tune. 130x120hp. Cheers.
Ha really appreciate the time you spent explaining things I grew up on r60 bmws. Just bought a 2016 ultra classic from my sister and brother in law. My uncle Bryce used to ride with his brother Dale wilson Mr. Penton and cooney baker baker from Norwalk ohio. I will buy this I drained the oil out when I bought the bike and told Mel it had a metallic color . I like all bikes. You are awesome. Old school is what you are.
Very nice tutorial, I can see that you are more than competent. And you have the patience to do things right and by the book with tourque wrenches and specs that are quite helpful to the average Joe trying to repair or upgrade their bike. He'll im thinking of installing the dark horse comp on my old Evo lowrider " just cuz" I don't wanna be wrenching, I wanna be ridin with a smoother and better designed component. You know I can't believe that HD never thought to design a better compensator all these many years, if you look at old 70s ricers, the rear wheel sprocket drive has nibs on the sprocket hub, and cavities in the wheel hub with little rubber shock absorbers in between. This is what Dark horse has done for the compensator. Truthfully I'm surprised that I didn't think of this myself but I don't change them because I don't abuse Mt Harleys, I just cruise and enjoy the symphony of sound and soak up the scenery, to me that's what they really were made for, big bikes to cross a big country🤙👍
First off...love the video....I have an 08 road king..little over 14k miles. Started having some clunking on start up and shut off. Several folks identified the problem as the compensator...so I researched....actually found forums and videos with issues I was having....so I parked the bike. Ordered a twin power compensator.... through research they are a replica of a screaming eagle comp with a drag specialties rotor...I watched your video more times than I can tell you...
Did the swap. Put it all back together. All torque values correct and double checked....it took forever to start....lil back fire thru throttle body...then it started and it idled like it had huge cams in it...and they are stock...it was a vibrating hard type idle. And now it seems my starter is trying to go out....battery is hitting 12.5v not running....14v running...no burn or black marks on stator....any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated....I am pretty mechanical...also went to mmi Orlando for about 6months. Didn't get to finish ...family problems...
Anyway. Look forward to hearing from ya and thanks
Hi Jason, I have to ask, so you changed the compensator only, and you have these issues??? You state you put the twin power unit in? Did you pul the codes through the speedo to see if there were any? I live in California, not sure where you are located. Here's my number! Give me a call....530-864-5370
@@LateNiteVTwin I did not check the codes. I will do that in the morning. Write them and get back with you...in Louisiana....had to postpone bike work for a lil bit of house work from ice storm we jus had. Busted pipes leaking in the roof due to ice. But all is good....I will see if there are codes and get back with ya. Thanks again
And compensator is all I changed...do I need to go ahead and replace tensioner as well
@@jasontaylor5442 Man, I feel your pain on the ice storms. My sister lives in Texas......If you are running the stock adjuster, I would highly recommend ditching that piece and putting in a manual one. Its going to save you a ton of money by not wearing the primary bearing, and trans bearings out. Let me know when you pull the codes and I can see if we can help you out!
@@LateNiteVTwin no codes at all....
Some friends of mine asked me if I let the compensator spin around while loosening the bolt to it and clutch basket. The bar I had in there did slip and the original compensator did spin around...they told me it couldve caused it get out of time?? Have you heard of this?
I took your advice and bought the dark horse unit. My bike is day and night different. Much quieter and smoother. Wanted the Haden adjuster but no one one, so running the stoke one for now.
After watching your video I ordered man o war compensator delete. Keep up the great videos ✌🏼
Thanks for watching George!
@@LateNiteVTwin I installed my man o war compensator last week and wow
What a difference I can also find neutral now
Good job Gary. You had HD 30041-08A in behind S creaming Eagle comp?
Dark Horse recommends a HD torrent bolt but you were correct drop supplied HD bolt water and use stock. You didn't go over Engine Sprocket alignment procedure to determine that the Sprockets were true. But you have the best video on RUclips
Just subscribed! excellent video and appreciate the absence of loud obnoxious music in background.
I did this job last year. Its not too difficult for most that have basic mechanical know how.
I chose the Baker compinsator with the Haden spring loaded chain tensioner. I wish I saw the Man-o-war first, i would have with that for sure. Race bikes have used the rubber in their rear wheel hubs for decades with great success.
Great video, looking forward to more in the future. Defiantly invest in a service manual if you are going to do your own wrenching. The first Harley I bought was a new 1973 SuperGlide FX, back in the AMF days, and they required a lot of wrenching. I was in the military then and didn't have money to take it to the dealer, so the first 'accessory' I bought was a service manual and taught myself how to wrench on 'Rosie', that was the name given to my first Harley-Davidson. I now wrench my 2000 FLSTC.
This guy makes it so simple, now I want to rebuild an entire engine with no experience 😅
I have the same manual adjuster set at half an inch,turning the motor over to make sure there wasn’t a measurement issues,had a small bit of humming that has dissipated since I’ve been riding…. Bike runs really well minus the clunking…… thank you very much for the video and the input
Outstanding video. Didn't have a clue to what a compensator was. Didn't know my breakout had one. I do now. Thank you.
Great video on compensators , lots of very useful information. Thank you for putting these out for those of us who work on our own rides. Like your style
Man! Great video I don't ride a Harley but i have friends that do and with watching this video I believe i can put a Compensator Sprocket In my friends 06 Road King Trike. I do know how to turn some wrenches and I can read manuals. Thanks Gary. You got you a New Subscriber.