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6532 and EBay = 95% chance of getting garbage, he isn't kidding it's bad. You can rejuvenate that display just as you would a 6 or 7 digit display just find the filament pins. Great job!
Yes we zapped it a little bit and got it back in business. I didn't have a good way to do it so I stole a couple voltages off the auxiliary power supply with some jumper wires and got it nice and bright.
I love the effort you put back into these games to make them at least presentable. Theres a shop near me that do arcade/pinball repairs with a handful games for sale on the showroom. They had a frogger upright i was interested in but they wanted $2,500 for it. and the black laminet was all dried up and peeled off. It was terrible.
Yeah we try to get them as nice as we can, sometimes there's not much you can do but we do the best with what's within reason.... $2500 for a Frogger? Little high, we charge pretty good prices (for us!) but a really nice Frogger would be $1499.
Yeah thats what I would sort of expect. They were going on and on about how rare and or collectible they are because its the LAI cabinet. (Leisure Allied Industries whom manafactured the cabinets in Australia) I keep forgetting I dont live in the US. But come on just replace the damn vinyl!
If those chips are getting hot they might be ripe for a small heatsink. Some thermal epoxy would probably work ok and keeping them cool should make them last longer, heat kills IC's.
I was one state away in the last week and really wanted to come by, chat and check out what you had but unfortunately, time was not on my side. Hopefully one day I'll make it down. Love the channel and I always learn something new every video. Keep up the great work.
If anything I put LEDs inn the G.I. so there is no G.I. Burned up connectors. The Star Trek Data east was bad every G.I. conneector was melted down and even J5 on the PPB had a track blown off. And for the most part put in Frosted whites in or Warm White LEDS. The problem is most put in Super Brites every where in the game. I say do the GI to save connectors and boards but can leave the controlled lighting as regular bulbs as those are just blinking on and off.
Haven't watched all the way through yet and you may have already sold the games but if you didn't find a fix for the two way mirror plexi I think you can get the mirrored window tint to fix that. Basically strip the old stuff off with sandpaper and then polish it with like 10K grid paper, just look up how they make large acrylic aquariums on how they sand the plastic welds to make them optically clear. Anyway with the lights right behind it it should work pretty well. Just a real light tint that is mirrored. If they are already gone you can try it on the next one. Probably fix the plastics the same way. Have to agree the 80's games are really interesting though. The ramps are always a lot of fun to me.
In general I would agree with you regarding LEDs. I prefer incandescents. I even prefer incandescents to the flourescent for the back box. With that said, if you can get the Warm White LEDs they are a good compromise if you do need to convert a machine.
Is there anywhere to get tiny neon bulbs? I already know about those reeeeeeally tiny lightbulbs used in model locomotives, but do they make tiny neon lamps the same size as LEDs like for indicators on stereos and stuff?
Nice to see Twins are working fine👍😎 I had same problem with my Spring Break ,right uper fliper had switch that activate shooter lane coil , have to clean and rethight screws was loose on that switch....
Ron, on testing the 7400 - with the multimeter test you are doing, you are really testing the over/under voltage protection diodes on the pins. With that said, yeah, if the chip got overstressed enough to kill the protection diodes, the rest of the chip most likely got fried.
Try the LEDs from cointaker. They are quite bright (always brighter than the incandescent) That being said, on older games I use warm white LED for GI cause they look similar to original but brighter. Nice job dude.
@@LyonsArcade awesome man. Just finished the video. Funny how you shorted the switch line. I did the exact same with with a Barracora a few months ago, but I did an even dumber by bending the lane change switch with the game on. Killed the PIA and another chip (hex inverter?!?) Either way, fixed that and all was well. We all make mistakes. I own a local pinball repair business in Northern Ontario Canada and we have games on location. www.savvyamusements.com
A quick tip for these Gottlieb pop bumpers and LED lamps. I usually have to add a small amount of solder to the bottom of the lamp to get good continuity. These LED lamps seem to always have less solder than the original incandescents at the bottom tip.
@@dansledepot107 I do that a lot on regular bulbs in pop bumpers especially just because they're a little loose, for whatever reason the LED's I was trying didn't work but some cointaker ones did, i'll try out yours next time I need some since I know you're a viewer :) Thanks for the tip, Dan!
I think Gottlieb should have used that small image to the right and above of the pall beneath the playfield as the main gamefield image. She sort looks like Pat Benatar. Maybe love is both a battlefield and gamefield. She was the ultimate 80's tough female rock music artist, right?
Yeah I don't know what they were thinking with their backglasses at the time, I guess they kind of wanted a "punk" vibe to all of their machines, even the other games around this time had similar things going on....
Wee bit off topic, but I’ll be driving cross country and very close enough to stop into the shop c. Sept 9 (hurricane developments depending). Will you be there, Ron? Would love to stop in, see some machines, and talk shop.
@@LyonsArcade Thanks, Ron! Well, as it turns out, hurricane aftermath has changed our itinerary, so now flying over you. I'll wave from above. But it's still on my list to visit your store someday.
I love my LED'ed games but you make really good points. I have been trying to keep GI white or Sunlight (a little warm) and frosted. I would really like to thank you for going threw the board like this. I have a system 80b MPU that locks on bootup. This video will be really helpful. Do you offer board service by mail?
Thanks, I hope that helps you get it working! We don't actually do board repair, just on the machines we sell.... I'm not sure who works on these Gottlieb pcb's because I've always fixed my own but if you email the guys at www.PBResource.com I'll bet they'd be able to point you in the right direction.
I don't know if that is the same "RIOT" chip used by Atari, but that is the RAM, I/O, and Timer. Atari and Commodore used a lot of acronym names and even human names.
@@LyonsArcade ruclips.net/video/zQV7nWrsqio/видео.html right here Ron..if i saw right theres several versions..even one that plays his song Ring of Fire
![Diggy Graves - Red Vineyard [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8Ro085T0mnQ/mqdefault.jpg)
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How can you not love that synth music!
Yeah I think it's great!
Just listen to a TX Sector. That was very impressive. I had a Victory, same, although too much repetitive.
Aor rock is hard to swallow let alone played on fm chip but in this case it fits the tacky theme
6532 and EBay = 95% chance of getting garbage, he isn't kidding it's bad. You can rejuvenate that display just as you would a 6 or 7 digit display just find the filament pins. Great job!
Yes we zapped it a little bit and got it back in business. I didn't have a good way to do it so I stole a couple voltages off the auxiliary power supply with some jumper wires and got it nice and bright.
Totally agree on the LEDs, you gotta do what looks good, not just replace every damn bulb with LED just because it's LED.
I love the effort you put back into these games to make them at least presentable. Theres a shop near me that do arcade/pinball repairs with a handful games for sale on the showroom. They had a frogger upright i was interested in but they wanted $2,500 for it. and the black laminet was all dried up and peeled off. It was terrible.
Yeah we try to get them as nice as we can, sometimes there's not much you can do but we do the best with what's within reason.... $2500 for a Frogger? Little high, we charge pretty good prices (for us!) but a really nice Frogger would be $1499.
Yeah thats what I would sort of expect. They were going on and on about how rare and or collectible they are because its the LAI cabinet. (Leisure Allied Industries whom manafactured the cabinets in Australia) I keep forgetting I dont live in the US. But come on just replace the damn vinyl!
If those chips are getting hot they might be ripe for a small heatsink. Some thermal epoxy would probably work ok and keeping them cool should make them last longer, heat kills IC's.
That would probably be a good idea!
I was one state away in the last week and really wanted to come by, chat and check out what you had but unfortunately, time was not on my side. Hopefully one day I'll make it down. Love the channel and I always learn something new every video. Keep up the great work.
Also, I love pinball machines. It's cool to see how they work and speak.
Stop by and see us next time Jason!
Jesus Christ haha I love the system 80b music quality. It’s absolutely incredible haha
We're gonna play the hell out of it next video :)
Joe's Classic Video Games lucky! I have been in pinball for 10 years and have never got to see or play one in person. Looking forward to it!
Great video
Thanks for watching!
If anything I put LEDs inn the G.I. so there is no G.I. Burned up connectors.
The Star Trek Data east was bad every G.I. conneector was melted down and even J5 on the PPB had a track blown off.
And for the most part put in Frosted whites in or Warm White LEDS.
The problem is most put in Super Brites every where in the game.
I say do the GI to save connectors and boards but can leave the controlled lighting as regular bulbs as those are just blinking on and off.
That would definitely be a good compromise!
Freddy makes an appearance 9:51
You found an easter egg :)
3-m makes a double sided adhesive tape that works great for reattaching decent decals that have peeled off, 3-M 467MP adhesive transfer tape
I'll look into that, thank you Barry!
@@LyonsArcade I reattached my rollercoaster decal under the center comet ramp with that,
Haven't watched all the way through yet and you may have already sold the games but if you didn't find a fix for the two way mirror plexi I think you can get the mirrored window tint to fix that. Basically strip the old stuff off with sandpaper and then polish it with like 10K grid paper, just look up how they make large acrylic aquariums on how they sand the plastic welds to make them optically clear. Anyway with the lights right behind it it should work pretty well. Just a real light tint that is mirrored. If they are already gone you can try it on the next one. Probably fix the plastics the same way.
Have to agree the 80's games are really interesting though. The ramps are always a lot of fun to me.
We already sold these but you're right, I think that would work! Thanks for the info....
In general I would agree with you regarding LEDs. I prefer incandescents. I even prefer incandescents to the flourescent for the back box.
With that said, if you can get the Warm White LEDs they are a good compromise if you do need to convert a machine.
I agree, plus I don't care if other people put them in, they don't hurt anything. Just a personal preference.
Is there anywhere to get tiny neon bulbs? I already know about those reeeeeeally tiny lightbulbs used in model locomotives, but do they make tiny neon lamps the same size as LEDs like for indicators on stereos and stuff?
Nice to see Twins are working fine👍😎
I had same problem with my Spring Break ,right uper fliper had switch that activate shooter lane coil , have to clean and rethight screws was loose on that switch....
Did yours short out the board too?
@@LyonsArcade
No only switch contact problem
Gotta love the music; i think i heard it one time on an episode of Miami Vice. great trouble shooting!
If it wasn't on Miami Vice it was close, LOL
another great restoration vid..thank you joe :) x
Thanks Hope, we appreciate yall watching!
Love the videos Joe! I just picked up a Bad Girls & your videos have been excellent!
Bad Girls is a really good game in my opinion, those 80's Gottliebs are some of my favorites for sure!
Had to watch an oldie - would love to see that high speed.
Ron, on testing the 7400 - with the multimeter test you are doing, you are really testing the over/under voltage protection diodes on the pins. With that said, yeah, if the chip got overstressed enough to kill the protection diodes, the rest of the chip most likely got fried.
Thanks David, I understand what you're saying...
cool pinball!
Thanks Tomy Power!
Try reflective window tint for cars on the back of a new piece of plexy? Not sure if it would work but I didn't see it in the comments anywhere.
That would probably work, as long as you couldn't see through it unless the lights were on it'd be fine.
Right there with you Ron, I can't stand LEDs either, I don't even like them in my 8-track deck, I wish I could find tiny neon bulbs to replace them.
Love'n the pinnie repair vids
Thanks Simon, we appreciate you watching!
Try the LEDs from cointaker.
They are quite bright (always brighter than the incandescent)
That being said, on older games I use warm white LED for GI cause they look similar to original but brighter.
Nice job dude.
I ended up getting the cointakers because the other ones I had wouldn't work in the pop bumpers!
@@LyonsArcade awesome man.
Just finished the video. Funny how you shorted the switch line. I did the exact same with with a Barracora a few months ago, but I did an even dumber by bending the lane change switch with the game on. Killed the PIA and another chip (hex inverter?!?)
Either way, fixed that and all was well. We all make mistakes.
I own a local pinball repair business in Northern Ontario Canada and we have games on location. www.savvyamusements.com
A quick tip for these Gottlieb pop bumpers and LED lamps. I usually have to add a small amount of solder to the bottom of the lamp to get good continuity. These LED lamps seem to always have less solder than the original incandescents at the bottom tip.
@@dansledepot107 do you sell LEDs for pinball? Link?
@@dansledepot107 I do that a lot on regular bulbs in pop bumpers especially just because they're a little loose, for whatever reason the LED's I was trying didn't work but some cointaker ones did, i'll try out yours next time I need some since I know you're a viewer :) Thanks for the tip, Dan!
I love chiptune !!
I think Gottlieb should have used that small image to the right and above of the pall beneath the playfield as the main gamefield image. She sort looks like Pat Benatar. Maybe love is both a battlefield and gamefield. She was the ultimate 80's tough female rock music artist, right?
Yeah I don't know what they were thinking with their backglasses at the time, I guess they kind of wanted a "punk" vibe to all of their machines, even the other games around this time had similar things going on....
Vicki Peterson!
When I saw the title Bad Girls it reminded me of that Donna Summer song
BULB CONDOMS??? *Slinks away snickering*
That's what they're called!
@@LyonsArcade I think I can hear the high school kids sit up the in the back of the room snickering also.
I seem to recall gm/Delco putting these on the tuner illumination bulbs for their 1970s radios.
Wee bit off topic, but I’ll be driving cross country and very close enough to stop into the shop c. Sept 9 (hurricane developments depending). Will you be there, Ron? Would love to stop in, see some machines, and talk shop.
John, I should be here, depending on time of day.
@@LyonsArcade Thanks, Ron! Well, as it turns out, hurricane aftermath has changed our itinerary, so now flying over you. I'll wave from above. But it's still on my list to visit your store someday.
@@johnbaumgartner I think I just saw you fly by, was the bottom of your plane Silver??????
Joe's Classic Video Games that’s was it! Could you hear my carry on? Gottlieb El Dorado
@@johnbaumgartner Of course, I'd recognize those chimes anywhere!
I love my LED'ed games but you make really good points. I have been trying to keep GI white or Sunlight (a little warm) and frosted. I would really like to thank you for going threw the board like this. I have a system 80b MPU that locks on bootup. This video will be really helpful. Do you offer board service by mail?
Thanks, I hope that helps you get it working! We don't actually do board repair, just on the machines we sell.... I'm not sure who works on these Gottlieb pcb's because I've always fixed my own but if you email the guys at www.PBResource.com I'll bet they'd be able to point you in the right direction.
Do a video on how you clear coat a section please.
So you were working on two Bad Girls and pulled out screwdrivers and nut drivers. Is that legal in your state?
Brown Chicken BROWN COWWWWWW
I don't know if that is the same "RIOT" chip used by Atari, but that is the RAM, I/O, and Timer. Atari and Commodore used a lot of acronym names and even human names.
NOTE to self, power the device off when working on it!!
Do a review on Pac-Man’s Pixel Bash Chill Arcade Machine
These 'street level' machines Gottlieb put out pretty much told the pinball world that they were going out of business.
Dont suppose you guys have the Johnny Cash slot machine?..Hello..Im Johnny Cash
I've never seen one!
@@LyonsArcade ruclips.net/video/zQV7nWrsqio/видео.html right here Ron..if i saw right theres several versions..even one that plays his song Ring of Fire
@@LyonsArcade elvis has one ruclips.net/video/ByXZ8J0pVEQ/видео.html
Oooh the tune .... i love it. Great you have both working
Thanks for watching :)
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