As a brown person, I was more triggered when he said everyone in Appalachia is racist when he never bothered to pull up stats, or speak to a POC who could share their experience living in Appalachia. He pretty much spoke OVER people of color. Same goes with him gatekeeping Native American cultures
Not to mention in "The hills have eyes" video, he equates the antagonist who are cannibalistic murderous r@pists to native americans and black people and saying that the white protagonist killing one by putting a stake through their hearts is putting them in their place
@koolcat6320 i generally don't understand how these white saviors can make those kinds of takes and not think for a second how racist they are. Like cannibal rapists are such savage and depraved monsters, don't compare us (im a poc) to those things.
After his 3 hour video, I'm still not sure what a _conservative horror film_ is and I don't know if I've ever seen one. I think he started with a thesis that these things exist but his political ideology limits his basic understanding about what the conservative perspective is so he cannot accurately identify what _is_ and what _is not_ conservative. I honestly thought he was going to take an approach that discussed the military and their relationship with Hollywood films and the propaganda there. I've never seen anyone do this in the horror genre and I thought it could have been an interesting discussion. Who knew I was going to get 3hours of bad faith arguments in video essay format...
Oddly enough, Daily Wire put out a few horror movies. The one that has a religious undertone is actually very much and undertone and not in your face shoving it down your throat or anything either, I actually liked it.@illuminahde
It's funny because he bashed the convention for having Kevin Spacey there, but HE went to the same convention. By his own logic, he went to a convention hosting a right wing extremist, therefore he must also be a right wing extremist!
@@illuminahdeNefarious is a really bad, really conservative horror movie that came out last year. And not “In Praise of Shadows” version of conservative, actual hard right wing rhetoric. It’s quite literally a fundamentalist Christian propaganda film. VERY anti-secular and actually pushes the message that all non-Christians are agents of Satan, I’m not even joking. Just absolutely unhinged, paranoid stuff that’s essentially the far right equivalent of radical leftism.
@@captainawf2341I like that that's not even you just saying that, that's his logic applied to himself. Dude is more than a clown or circus, he is the very idea of comedy itself, nothing then an utterly pure joke of a human.
To be fair, Wendigoon broke into my house through my bedroom window when I was 8. He slapped me in the face, called me the “F” slur, and said that nobody would ever believe and jumped out of the window and into the night like some sort of hyper dimensional cryptid
@@MaryGen-xo6zf do you really think a wendigo would break into my house while yelling about government cheese hidden in caves across the country? If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that you’re probably wendigoon or one of his hired gang stalkers trying to gaslight me. He said “my name is wendigoon and I’m going to hire gangstalkers to gaslight you in RUclips comment sections if you ever try to speak out”. Nice try
Generalizing the Appalachian population as being "racist unless proven otherwise" based on there being very few people in X ethnic group in it implies that the default position is that of being racist. I think that says far more about him and what's in his head than the people he's attacking.
Even if they were so what? They keep to themselves. The accusations of supposed racism are just another millstone coastal elites hang around the neck of an already impoverished and downtrodden group of people.
Not to mention, he's quoting Maggie Valley which is full of more vacation homes and Air bnbs. It's the boonies of North Carolina and if you are born and raised there obviously it's more white people. He's using the smallest area to try and make his point. Claiming he knows something about an area and can't even say Appalachian right.
I still can't believe that the dude defended a child predator and tried to scold people for being glad that one bit the dust in an encounter where a cop was actively defending a child.
I was under the impression that the person who was shot was a * suspected * predator, meaning he hadn't been convicted of the crime. I may be totally wrong about that, but it makes more sense if that's the case.
@@LoveLee_Dreamerhe was defending a child on the scene, it was kind of on the scene and in the moment but yeah, hes definitely a pdf file and the guy was goiing for his gun to begin with, that was reason he was shot not so much the pdf case
Well said. Unfortunately, overly political people that go insane without any self awareness or common sense, tend to be miserable just like this. People like him eventually ruin themselves and others in the process. Perfect example of someone not to be. Everyone is free to have their own beliefs but also love and respect people as individuals.
Wendigoon is also friends with a number of liberal content creators as well, something he failed to mention. Is it so crazy to have friends of different political parties? This guys wild!
There was an argument in his "Bad Conservative Horror Movies" video where he said something along the line of "If you put 10 people and a fascist in a single room and let them have a discussion, you're gonna get 11 fascists". So yeah, the guy IS wild.
@@erichzannbusoumuzan And I wouldn't trust this person in defining what counts as "fascist" either. Apparently having an average traditional belief + being kinda brash/bravado about is fascist by this person's standards it seems.
yeah also he uses someone being friends with Shoe0nHead as a "gotcha" against them in the video, which even speaking as someone who's really not a fan of Shoe, one of the things she's actually been mostly heavily criticized for by leftists and rightists is the fact that she's friends with a *really* wide range of people across the political spectrum, so her being friends with someone says actually *nothing* about their political leanings, like saying "this person is friends with Shoe" is about as meaningful as saying "this person owns a car"
His sheer jealousy of Wendigoon just radiates through the screen. He’s like a little kid trying to convince everyone to kick the cool kid out of the club house because he desperately wants to take his place.
As someone from Appalachia, I don't know what that guy is talking about. A significant portion of the people here are too poor to be prejudice against someone else on the basis of race. Doesn't matter if you're black or white. We're all in the gutter here lol.
I also live in Appalachia, and it honestly just depends on the town, just like anywhere else in the country. I live in an area with lots of bigotry but I've lived and been to other areas in Appalachia without such issues.
This is what gets me the most. He can try to deny being racist since it's "against other white people" but that doesn't change how that whole rant was CLASSIST AF
Exactly poverty bridges all boundaries and poverty doesn't see color. It unites people of all backgrounds. I grew up really poor, it was hard but I'm really greatful for the array of friends and people I had throughout my life. I cannot stand this perspective that was touched on here.. Such a closed minded toxic mindset
People that are interested in guns are no different from people that are interested in other types of weapons (i.e. swords, spears, bows) and all of it is genuinely interesting. It doesn't mean you're a bad person if you like those kinds of things
I think it’s funny to imagine an alternate universe where Funko POPs are commonly used as blunt weapons, and POP collectors are seen as psychotic monsters for their disturbing hobby
I definately think that there is more of a stigma with the US gun scene, but i think its in large part because of the unique issues that the nation has to deal with. You dont see swiss gun owners get brought up because its not really publicised or an issue. As for the other weapons, i think its because we as a society have sort of trivialised them and disconnected them from current war or conflict. Theyre in our movies, games, and history- you dont see Gangs in chicago duelling with swords, nor do most infantry charge into battle with maces and whatnot
isn't the whole taboo about saying the name supposed to be the native word for a skinwalker? If I remember correctly it's not the Wendigo at all and it's also not any word used for either creature in pop culture.
as an indigenous person, Wendigoons name has never bothered me. If anything it's kinda cool to me that some of my cultures creatures are more known about. Culture should be shared not gatekeeped.
and the man is even 1/4 cherokee but zane/ipos does not see that as ''enough'' apparantly? and still calls it as actual appropriation and that isaiah/wendigoon is ''too white'' and mixed out to be native, even if the guy has a fourth of his heritage and culture directy shared from his native grandpa. the hitpiece from zane is just a whole virtue signaling mess that hypocritically and ironically goes against the values and minorities etc he is claiming to help/protect
"That is the job of an artist to some degree, to comment on current social issues". I cannot begin to express how much I hate this way of thinking, that art has to have an acknowledgement of the current thing otherwise it has an inherent lesser value compared to those that do. It's an entirely single minded and boneheaded way of looking at things where people are expecting or sometimes demanding that an artist acknowledges something that they care about, even if it cannot meaningfully be brought into what they are trying to make. Art is expression. Film writers, directors, musicians, painters and even slam poets have only one simple job, to express something meaningful to them.
Exactly. Most of my favorite books and films came from the 1930's - 1980's, and I wasn't even born until 95. Themes and stories that actually have real value are timeless and transcend all barriers.
Problem with it is especially that artists aren’t necessarily scientists or something similar. What I mean is that often they then don’t focus on things they actually understand, not saying that people cannot comment stuff. But it should be something that means something to the artist and something they know about. Their success as artists isn’t linked to that type of stuff. And if there is a pressure to talk about something, it is going to eventually be phrased dangerously.
His 'The Hills Have Eyes' critique is so infuriating. 'They could have used this as a metaphor for the meat industry' yeah but that's not what the movie's about! Any movie could be altered to make a political statement, but not everything has to be political. You know why they use shock value? Cause it's a horror movie. The point is to be horrified, not to mull on a deep metaphor for the unethical consumption of meat.
And nothing will evoke imagery of butchers and factory farming like... an RV in the Mojave Desert. At least Texas Chainsaw HAD butcheries and meat lockers
Tbh the Hills have eyes is better if you look at it as a class conflict than a race one, they both white, the difference is one are poor the others are middle class/rich, the cannibals are doing what they do in order to survive, still wicked but understandable and the family is forced to do the same in order yo survive, not really because they hate them or want them to know their place (also if recall correctly the script was based on the legend of Swaney Bane, a scottish folk piece)
@@Yltimate_not mention our infrastructure failures and educational deficiencies especially when it comes to geography and trying to obtain small fast food cheeseburgers 😂
Especially when he is doing so blindly, and just acting like black people (me) in or around Appalachia don’t exist and that the people there are just inherently racist. I’m not saying that doesn’t exist, but I am saying the mountains don’t put some magic hate in people to give cause for gross generalizations like that
fr. its crazy because people like him and who think like him are the ones who are supposedly trying to “fight racism”, meanwhile being literal racists themselves. 😭😭💀
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta Right. I had this kind of argument with someone who travels and acted like their stopping sometimes in my part of Appalachia gave them more insight than me living here all my life.
Or the guy who swears he loves free speech then fires his employee, who's job was to give her thoughts on any given topic for expressing her thoughts. Doesn't roll off the tongue as well as wap guy though.
“I don’t like you based on what I assume your politics are” is such a childish way to be anyway. Wendigoon wouldn’t be that way to anyone. Dude needs to grow up.
Yeah it sounds sad. Tho i feel like alot of people especially older ones do this way to often. I rly hope one day we will get to the point where people dont judge others based on what they think they do or are.
@TheBigBigSean As a moderate that actually shares beliefs from both sides, it’s a way of life for a lot of both of them. Don’t be intellectually disingenuous.
@thebigbigsean I was a bit like this when I was 17. I barely left my room and was very mentally ill. I switched from watching anti SJW videos to pretty much being one. It was the worst period of my life
Saddest part about this whole debacle is that IPOS will never fully understand why he got the criticism in the first place and just assume that the problem lies not with him but with the rest of the world
Yeah. It is just super sad. Sounds like he needs help and needs to unironically get out more. Pick a hobby and start meeting people is always my advice when I meet someone who spends way too much time online.
This 1000%. I was actually a fan of his before the political brainrot set in. Watching this unfold has been equal parts fascinating and horrifying. I want to believe that anyone can be brought back from the edge, but when I see people like this I just don't know. He's been led so far astray and there are so many layers of wrongness to his thinking that I wouldn't even know where to begin to convince him not to be so blindly hateful.
@@JessicaMarquez-tx8rl Ah yes, the most kind, and loving man that totally wasn't basically a paranoid Adolf if he never went into politics. Horror is all kindness and love. /sarcasm
Is Wendigoon even a conservative? I always thought he was a more libertarian type of guy. Or is shadows one of those “everything right of Stalin is fascism” kind of people and doesn’t really understand the different groups on the right?
he called the boogaloo boys "a fascist movement", a meme about guys who couldn't run a mile saying they'll overthrow the government if they take guns is "fascist" to him, so absolutely the latter
shadows is just an idiot, not even a leftist. more like an identitarian. dude has never heard of the class war and obviously hates poor people and workers and would never ever get a manual labor job. man i hate these trust fund kid wannabe academics, they would be totally useless for any revolution, we should ignore them.
I love the fact that he was like "Wendigoon shouldn't be seen as the wholesome guy you think he is" and Wendigoon proceeded to wholesome guy him to virtual death.
My favorite part is when his discord was leaked and revealed that he held no remorse for his baseless slander and was only concerned whether it'll hurt his career in the long run.
Oh, it's even funnier. He tries to emotionally manipulate his discord members by saying that it negatively affects *his partner* and that he had to choose between making money (which ironically, he could easily do considering he admitted he doesn't do ads) or doubling down on the tortured artist bit.
@@NotHarpoGroucho Patreon. That's it. He made it clear in his community posts and videos that he doesn't do ads "even though he has offers" for some reason. He's larping as a tortured artist
Prime example of why the advice "don't take political advice from terminally online weirdos" is the most true advice. I've known and met people my whole life on many different sides of the political spectrum. The common denominator I've noticed is the ones with genuine social connections are the most level-headed people I've ever spoken to, and the ones who spend all their time online are genuinely unhinged.
This is just a rule of thumb. Don't talk with people on the internet about serious issues. Most of the time, they can't handle a different opinion or are just unhinged.
For someone who loves horror movies, he should know The Hills Have Eyes is based on an actual incestuous cannibal family. There was no political commentary. He reached so hard he pulled a muscle.
@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 yep. director Wes Carven was looking for a story to film and came by the legend. he saw the parrals between the clan savagely killing people, and later being tortued, burned, and hung by for their crimes.
my friend, just because it’s based on a real story doesn’t mean it isn’t political. I don’t agree w his analysis either but this comment lacking media literacy no offense
Fascism is populist. The "authoritarianism" of fascism is - at least historically - is an authoritarian actor working on behalf of the goverened. It just bypasses the masquerade of democracy and entrusts a powerful leader to act on behalf of the people and sidestep the 'big government'. Once you realize fascism is populist, it's a lot easier to understand why anti-government people often become fascist.
What's funny is that Wendigoon explores conspiracy theories that are often EXTREMELY breaded and preserving folklore is a time-honored tradition of lefty anthropologists. The breadbowlution eats its own soup
“Wendigoon CLAIMS to be anti-government” bro literally makes hour long history lessons about the horrors inflicted upon the American people BY the govt
As a brown person who has lived in Appalachian areas, I can honestly say the deep rooted Appalachian people are very much kind and welcoming with a strong sense of community and tradition. It's the people in the suburbs and law enforcement that you have to worry about.
It is the only place on the East Coast I miss. The mountains are full of deep lore and weird people. Go to the West Coast where the real racism lives these days. I had to leave my beautiful home in Seattle because it got crazy with all of it. Granted I spend 10 months a year in Iraq working, but now I live in the high mountain deserts of New Mexico where people have their heads on, mostly.
24:14 as a North Carolinian we don’t claim him, also it’s honestly mind blogging how someone can live in this area and simultaneously have no earthly idea what they are talking about like yes Appalachia is pretty white but every person I’ve ever met there is one of the sweetest people I’ve ever met
It’s Asheville syndrome. I love Asheville but the people there sometimes get really bogged down in the echo chamber there, just as they can in other places
It's funny how he tried to accuse everyone in the video to be "extremists" but gave every reason in it in the most "extremist" way he can by pulling every assumption and speculation that exposed him as the most racist, sexist and ableist person in the comparison group. He pretended to care so much for people he claims to defend that he did a full 180 turn to see them as lesser than himself.
lowkey gives "if you kick out all the immigrants who's gonna be cleaning your toilet". I love how people can come full circle like this not realizing the side they're on vs the side they're trying to argue against
I watched his video on The Hills Have Eyes. He said the cannibal wild tribe represents Native Americans or black people. What a smug condescending racist thing to say!
That's how the far left operates, they paint you with a broad brush, and then use that to prove you're pure evil, so anything they say about you must be true. The far right uses the same tactic less successfully, labeling every femenist or pro choice person as socialist. The most extreme people in the world assume everyone is just as extreme as them. If you disagree with them just a little bit, you must be extreme on the other side of the spectrum.
Im a goth girl that went to art school, I’m about as open minded and accepting as you can be (i try my best to be) 10 minutes into this video, This dude reminds me of the few individuals in art school that made me think, “actually, i am a hater” Taking things toooo seriously man Im not a gun fan, I’m not religious, i love Wendigoon. I find his religion videos educational. Dudes funny, but also very smart and informative. So is Oompa. There are just bigger issues out there to worry about than making problems out of nothing
Nice, that's pretty awesome. I personally love Goth themes and love art myself since i love to draw and make art. Similarly, I am pretty open minded as well while having views of my own and respecting and understanding different views and perspectives as well. People need to really understand how to interact, cooperate and respect people with different stances. It's a sign of maturity. Due to this, I can have views of my own and I can different types of friends of all types etc.
seriously! Wendigoon taught me about Christianity without forcing it on me. that's the best you can ask for in a Christian this guy couldn't accept a nice respectful person because the had different opinions (that he mostly kept to himself) shout out artsy goth women
@@Mavisdundundunnnmanston he inadvertently made more fun of himself than anything, saying w.goon is racist because of the groups he was briefly associated with is completely absurd, you can't just not mock this guy
@@Mavisdundundunnnmanston idk if that's clear tbh - cause even as a "joke" his entire line of thinking says guilty by association so wearing it at all ...makes him guilty
Him gatekeeping Native American stuff is pretty funny. If he had his way, I wouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on my own heritage/culture, despite being an enrolled tribal member. (I'm white with a native grandfather.) I suppose he'd want me to stop speaking Ojibwe too, lol.
He is going to have a heck of a time making a living as a starving artist now... he is actively being compared to Blaire (Illumin.) after this... and he does not have a big enough following to survive just on the loyalists.
"Everyone from Appalachia is deeply racist unless they prove otherwise" *is Appalachian and immediately proves himself racist* Can't make this stuff up
I saw your tweet on this and it’s kinda crazy how he almost “segregates” Appalachia because of what he might see online and not actually seeing the people and what goes on there.
He lives in Asheville, it doesn't surprise me that he has these incorrect and bigoted views about Appalachians. Asheville is basically Portland in the mountains.
Didnt he switch to that when talking about wendigoon in the video? So it feels delibirate, not an oopsie. But when he uses it as a diss on wendigoon the joke kinda fails.
to be fair, the appa-lay-shun/appa-latch-un divide is just another north/south thing. it all depends on where in appalachia you grew up. appa-lay-shun gets more play bc some of the biggest journalistic centers in america (namely, nyc and boston), are in the north, so that pronunciation got popularized outside its native area via newscasters. and the word itself comes from the Apalachee people, comprised of 'apala' and 'chee', meaning something like "people by the sea" (don't quote me on that). so the "real" pronunciation may be different from both the ones prevalent today!
@@emilysheldon3284 Look…not that I disagree with you, but I also don’t wanna hear anything from a Northerner about pronunciation after learning how y’all say “Worcester”.
@@Henry8VIII8 Yeah the apology was like "I'm sorry you felt this way about these things and I'm sorry if it affected you negatively... But actually everything I said was correct and your response proves it!"
@@brainrain1142yeah, but he picked the wrong target. I don't think he thought people wouldn't take his side, he expected wendigoon to get canceled, and all his viewers to just switch to him.
1) I watch most of these channels 2) I'm not American and American politics doesn't apply to me. 3) I'm 48 and been round the block a few times 4) this seems to be a case of _"my competition are (Insert latest slur) and are guilty by association. Therefore if you associate with my competition you are also (repeat slur from above)"_ I've seen it many times before. Edit:. His attempted moustache makes him look like someone I want to keep far away from my children....
I dont agree with any of the views in the original video about the people involved. But labeling someone a bigot of any kind or a bootlicker is not the same as using slurs. In this case it *is* slanderous, but thats because dudes an idiot and didnt do any research.
That, and seeing mechanical devises in action is just sort of cool in general. It's common to think that. Most of the "gun people" out there in the world are on the same wave length as "heavy machinery people" and "ancient tech people" out there. It's just... Look at it go, how cool! It's not violent impulses that sustains this level of interest, if it was only about the violence that could be caused, they wouldn't be out here comparing, like, the trigger pull and the ergonomics of grip designs and barrel length. They'd just be doing the violence since now they have the capacity.
as someone that considers myself to be more left leaning, it’s always so crazy to me when people who have only ever lived in highly populated areas view guns as a wholly evil thing. Things are bad in bigger cities, I will never deny that. But I’m from a rural area and so many people’s livelihoods are built on having access to guns. I know so many children that wouldn’t be fed without hunting season. So many families would lose their businesses. I’m all for background checks and being more responsible with who gets guns, but when we live in a society with so many communities built on them, taking them away entirely can only do more harm.
Yeah, same. I’m fairly left leaning, but even I would own a small handgun or a shotgun for home defense. I hunt, go to ranges, and may start conceal carrying once I’m of age. I do uphold the idea that guns should have a bit more regulation than they do, and more thorough background checks and better gun safety training should become standard. However, I don’t want guns to be banned entirely.
I totally agree, i live in a country where guns are heavily regulated, and bcus of that I don’t see them in a negative light at all. I think they are very necessary in a number of situations, although the thought of ppl just carrying them around for everyday life does make me a bit uncomfortable.
Also isn’t it a pretty firm leftist belief that you should hold the rights to arms to potentially combat oppressive government? Like I’m not a gun guy myself but even I know that.
20:25 I sometimes do say "as long as it doesn't affect me" but what I mean is as long as I am not in the splash zone of whatever is happening. Nobody should be forced to experience something against their will.
He destroyed whatever he had left of any career in general. After this, he is probably one of the least respectable and therefore least hirable people on earth
Actually deleted any chance of a comeback from that old vid, he could at least have said that was a long time ago and he's learned but this just actually done him fot real
@@soroushkowsarian3364 Or he could do worse The Illuminaughtii way Continue ingnoring the problem to the point that whatever she uploaded, it will get dogpiled
I moved from Illinois to Georgia. My experience with Appalachia has been nothing but positive and safe. These are some of the most generous and considerate people in America.
I love how he wouldn't dare mention cr1tikal. Wendigoo has many ties with charlie, same as you. charlie also has many stances on multiple views the same as you. He knew if he targeted charlie too, he would be over
honestly attack Wendigoon alone is dumb enough aside from Wendi himself didn't do anything wrong to the guy. its like bullying a kid that have 10 older brothers that's are Navy Seal, like what do you think will happen.
Only surround yourself with people who fully agree with you. It is the only way to be a successful person, by creating an echo chamber that kills all critical thought.
I HATE people like this. Acting offended for other races. I am Native American and find nothing about Wendi racist at all. I'd actually love to hang out with him. When people like that dude act all savior for all races it's actually killing talks of other cultures. There is barely any Native American representation now because of them. We had a Hockey team and 2 Football teams. Now we have 1 football team. I love seeing Native stuff being talked about or presented. I also despise the term "Indigenous" it just sounds more offensive than calling us Redders to me. I am not a person calling for representation or cries about names but I can not stand when people act offend-y for us without hearing anything from the race. People just need to mind their own business.
Realistically speaking, Zane would probably talk down to you and say you have "internalized racism" because that's how it works with people like him. People like him are so attached to the idea of race and skin color that it's at least just as dehumanizing in my mind as the racism they claim to fight, because by insisting on getting offended on other peoples behalf, they deny those same people, not just their individuality and ability to think for themselves, but also the fact that these same people are more than just their literal most surface level trait.
Yeah, every American Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (from Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams and or products named in honor of Natives.... from my experience it is only pathetic white leftists who virtue signal about it...
Yeah, every American Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (from Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams and or products named in honor of them.... from my experience it is only white leftists who virtue signal about it...
Yeah, every Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams or products named in honor of them, from my experience it is only Yt leftists who virtue signal about it.
I have completely different religious and political views from nearly all of my friends, I am still friends with them. It doesn’t mean that any of us are “bad people.”
With the Hills Have Eyes movie, does he not know that movie is based/Inspired by a Scottish family (Sawney Bean, The head of the family) who lived in a cave and killed passersby's to steal from them, then they ate the bodies to hid them from the public eye.
Fun fact. As a Scot, there is zero evidence Sawney Bean ever existed. It was made up by an anti Scottish English newspaper who's editor was shocked when he visited the area and found the Scots had turned it into a tourist attraction. ;)
Also another reason why that doesn’t work is because leader just like the Scottish legend did live in ‘normal society’ but was violent and left it by choice. Don’t forget he has a monologue that’s a “You think you are better than me”. Super coded as the violent rednecks.
Imagine calling others "Fascists" and a couple of minutes later saying someone shouldn't be welcome in society because they were born in a specific place...
As a person of color living in the Appalachian mountain area of the US, I can say for certain that I rarely ever have issues with racism where I'm at. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but if you live here you would know the area is incredibly diverse and the people are incredibly hospitable in spite of history. In fact, back when I lived in the Midwest is when I encountered the most issues with racism- but its not like I call everyone in that area racist. We just ended up in an unfortunate location/situation with the people around us, and that could happen anywhere. Ironically, it feels as though the most racist person here is the guy accusing every white person on the east coast of being inherently racist.
I lived in a southern mid west area growing up and I know that a lot of people were racist (I'm white but I was able to pick up on the micro agressions), but were still hospitable and even nice to PoC and treated them better than a lot of people who claim to not be racist where I live now (northern US). The cultural differences of racist white people is wild.
As comedian Bill Burr says, to paraphrase: "apparently racism only exists in the South, and in Boston, Massachusetts. L.A.? Nah, Milwaukee? Naaaaah. I'm surprised cause in Wisconsin they breed serial killers" obviously taking a more joking tone at the end lol
I feel like Oompa is a pretty neutral RUclipsr. I’m more of a leftist, but I have no problem listening to right winged people as long as they stay respectful. Oompa likes guns but in any video he’s all about safety and security when guns are involved. I used to be so afraid and against guns until I watched nickacado and him fire guns. too poor for candy , but the website looks amazing from an artist standpoint. And it was easy to navigate cause I have high functioning autism. And the fact that this RUclipsr is off when it comes to some of his movies is almost laughable that he tried to attack Oompa.
loved this comment, im also a leftist and this youtuber that hates everyone for having slight disagreements is honestly just black and white (leftist or n@zis) thinking that he critiques the criminal system for having those same methods of prosecution over rehabilitation
@@melonthemelons exactly! The world is morally grey! people often just go straight on attack mode, when instead we all should just exist. Which again is hard cause the world is morally grey.
I grew up around leftists my grandfather is about as democratic as they come and he served in the military and owns plenty of guns, even being pro gun control doesn’t mean being completly anti gun
The fact he can sit there and spout he’s inclusive but then say ‘don’t engage conservatives and centrist in any form even the art they make’ but then call them fascist and nazis is so beyond mind boggling. Like you are being a fascist, you are being authoritarian, you are segregating, you are what you claim to hate.
Yes! exactly, and here's the thing, I'm very left leaning, but I can still engage in art made by a conservative and not feel bad about (mind you, most heavy conservative art I don't find appealing) but saying just because someone's politics they don't deserve to make things is just dumb
That's why I never trust anyone that brags about how accepting, antiracist, antifascist or antidiscriminatory they are, because they always end up being the most hateful, racist, fascist and discriminatory people I've ever met lol.
Not really; fascist is a VERY specific kind of authoritarian and IPOS doesn't meet the criteria to be a fascist (... then again, neither does Wendigoon). HOWEVER... you are right on the money with him being an authoritarian; he absolutely is one.
My favorite part is when Zane calls out Wendigoon for being a fascist & a racist who's connected to the boogaloo boys because Wendigoon is wearing a Hawaiian shirt as Zane is literally wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
I think there are some valid criticisms of Wendigoon. Firstly there's his ties to more extremist political ideologies that he hasn't fully dispelled just yet, there's also his use of the "wendigo" within his name which has caused some stir within online indigenous communties and there's also his limited research on certain topics within his videos that has garnered relative amounts of criticism from other video essayists. I think discussing these issues in a civil manour to come to some sort of resolution is best, although I am aware that main people exist on the bases of "CRITICISM = MEAN = CANCELLATION" which is not what I'm saying or promoting. I don't think anyone is free from criticism no matter how deep-cut that criticism can be or how mean it may appear to others, but as I know that Wendigoon is a nice guy with legitimate empathy thanks in part to his work as a Youth Pastor I do believe that after awhile these issues will be ironed out for the betterment of all involved.
@ActuallyHoudini the wendigo thing isn't even criticism it's a bunch of racists on Twitter segregating cultures and attacking him because they can't understand that the argument is invalid to begin with because he's native american
This has gone overlooked through the drama but I want to say IPOS also sided with Amber Heard and said Johnny Depp created the entire situation between them "for more money and fame". In the middle of a video about mental asylums in horror. IPOS has been unhinged for a while
Ikr? The paradox of tolerance is supposed to refer to nazis and white supremacists (ie tolerating intolerance leads to more intolerance), it wasn't supposed to refer to everyone who isn't as left wing as you (this coming from a lefty myself). Him acting like Mutahar is a right winger just for rightfully calling out Keffals was laughable.
@@_lil_lil I don’t even agree with the lefty guy but Muta has stated many times he’s right leaning if not actually right wing and all of these dudes take shots at leftists on their podcasts all the time it’s wild to see oompa mystified that a left winger wouldn’t like him
@@_lil_lil especially since Mutahar was calling out Keffals for basically extorting her own community, which is full of trans people, and also lying about contributing to LGBT charities in order to extort said money. I used to be a fan of Keffals, and yeah a lot of horrible people have gone after her, but that doesn't change the fact that she basically defrauded a bunch of people (a great of many of them trans people themselves) and absolutely should be called out for it. Like I'd be very curious to hear what it is about Mutahar's coverage of the situation that he found transphobic, but like most of his crits of people in this video, he just throws around accusations (some of them actually pretty heavy) while backing them up with nothing. I'm not even like the biggest fan of Mutahar, and I've disagreed with him a number of times and think he's had some bad takes, but IPoS brings up absolutely no legitimate grievances against him.
My favorite part of the video is when he equated Native Americans to the Murderous flesh eating cannibals simply because they “were both defending their land”
This is actually the progressive take. It's not a mistake lol, a lot of people choose to forget the horrible practices of tribes in the past, in an effort to paint white people as worse
Oompa having to continuously remind us to not dog pile is so funny. It's like a lawyer giving one of his arguments and turning to the jury and reminding them not to shoot the defendant.
Brother isn’t even a journalist, he’s a video essayist (which is worse because there’s a higher standard that RUclipsrs are held to with their content than modern-day journalists)
as a native american, i would like this guy to stop talking like he knows anything about our culture 😭 I am cherokee and from the wolf clan, i am also scottish and irish so im white passing. I was brought up in a cherokee household and was taught our culture at a young age, so please be respectful of people in the comments, you don’t know anyone’s situation or who they are.
@@CinematicInsanitythat’s my thing, I honestly prefer to ask people from different cultures if they believe something is cultural appropriation, because I think their view on it is more important that someone who isn’t involved with said culture.
@@An0nymous_L0gicThis is so true, it’s the same when people talk about SA tribes like they are all on the same side, try to get Xhosa and Zulu to agree on something, you’ll fail. I don’t know much about native culture in America, but even still I would find it ignorant to act like their culture is all the same 🤦♀️
As a native Canadian from Alberta (one of the birth places of windymen) wendigoons user isn’t offensive to me at all. The most offensive thing was him saying the real word out loud with no warning 😂
While I'm sure there _are_ people who dislike the username (as there are all sorts out there) I can't imagine there's a huge amount of people being so hurt by a play on words that alludes to a horrifying creature by a largely horror-based RUclips channel that they'd make a big enough stink about it to make it a key point in a hit piece. I can see someone IRL saying it's crass, certainly, but come on... Wendigoon is not the name of the entity. That's not, say, a whiteboi calling it out directly "fer akendemik reezonz, so sry" for a totally non-specific example. 😂
I personally am too dilute in genetics to be able to get the card (Métis from my mother's side. I'm like, 1/8th, so too far down the line) but I respect the folks who have the blood of the TRUE first settlers in their veins. Dunno why I'm saying this, but I mean, I am of the opinion that IPOS is a POS, so there's that.
Bro, I've met wendigoon in the wild and he was every bit that "southern dad persona" naturally. He came to my store to get food for his snake. He was super polite before I even told him I watched his channel and knew who he was. He had a very humble demeanor and, when he realized he hadn't on his way out, came back to tell me his real name. I'd have loved to actually get to spend a little longer talking with him, actually, but I was helping other people. Based on that 5min random IRL interaction, I'll defend that dude at any point. Plus he's a Sunday school teacher in my community. Tf kinda person is going to be a married, very well off RUclipsr and still go out of their way to teach kids?
29:33 I hate that this platform really has me recoiling in shock when I hear “suičide” instead of “self exit game” or something equally as annoying to dodge the demonetization hammer
9:56 Genuinely so upsetting. This guy’s just spreading rumors that have no backing or real research behind them without the people he’s lying about being aware he has ‘drama’ with them. I can’t imagine Wendigoon’s reaction to finding out that he’s being treated as someone that shouldn’t be accepted in the public. He seems like such a sweet guy and doesn’t deserve people spreading false rumors otherwise.
Praise in shadows wishes he was as half as entertaining as Ulysses Even if you don't like his dialogue Ulysses never shutting up just makes you more eager to finally shut him up This guy never shutting up just makes you feel gross
I'm a leftist but I lean more towards enforcing gun safety over banning guns. I grew up in rural Texas and I honestly hate a lot of conservative politics and politicians. But I also know that just because someone enjoys target practice and mudding doesn't make them hateful. I definitely have issues with different leftists for their beliefs too. Like there is a backlash against openly expressing sexuality by some leftists because they view it as inherently exploitative or sexist. I just think people are often more complicated than our ultra simplified political system paints us as.
I think it's wrong in general that some leftist (and again I say some becuase it's really just extreme ones like the loser in the video) who go about preaching how the other spectrum is wrong and make wild generalizations strictly speaking on the politics of left vs right it boils down to the priority of the poor versus the priority of the economy I think both debating and competing against one another is in a controlled situation healthy for our political system as both are important but when people make politics Essentially their entire personality like this guy it becomes an issue where a disagreement in politics is an attack on his personality which isn't the case (and both sides do it) completely forgetting the politicians you're getting mad over don't really give one about you and will pass whatever corporation payed them higher regardless of affiliation (left or right)
Cool story? Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
@@CoperliteConsumerok but felons aren’t allowed to own guns, you can’t own a gun if you’re committed to a mental institution or have a documented history of self harm.. so clearly there’s exceptions.
Using "interacted positively" unironically is insane. Like, bro, isn't that how you should interact with people by default? Are we supposed to interact negatively? That doesn't seem productive.
As a brown person, I was more triggered when he said everyone in Appalachia is racist when he never bothered to pull up stats, or speak to a POC who could share their experience living in Appalachia. He pretty much spoke OVER people of color. Same goes with him gatekeeping Native American cultures
Not to mention in "The hills have eyes" video, he equates the antagonist who are cannibalistic murderous r@pists to native americans and black people and saying that the white protagonist killing one by putting a stake through their hearts is putting them in their place
@koolcat6320 i generally don't understand how these white saviors can make those kinds of takes and not think for a second how racist they are. Like cannibal rapists are such savage and depraved monsters, don't compare us (im a poc) to those things.
as many, many progressive white "anti-racist" leftists tend to do
@@koolcat6320 It’s honestly insane how being so progressive, just defaults to being racist. Again it’s insane.
I'm Quapaw. The last thing I need is protection from this soy'stache. What a patronizing little prik...
Ah yes my favorite conservative horror movie stars - Kevin Spacey and Wendigoon.
After his 3 hour video, I'm still not sure what a _conservative horror film_ is and I don't know if I've ever seen one.
I think he started with a thesis that these things exist but his political ideology limits his basic understanding about what the conservative perspective is so he cannot accurately identify what _is_ and what _is not_ conservative.
I honestly thought he was going to take an approach that discussed the military and their relationship with Hollywood films and the propaganda there. I've never seen anyone do this in the horror genre and I thought it could have been an interesting discussion.
Who knew I was going to get 3hours of bad faith arguments in video essay format...
Oddly enough, Daily Wire put out a few horror movies. The one that has a religious undertone is actually very much and undertone and not in your face shoving it down your throat or anything either, I actually liked it.@illuminahde
It's funny because he bashed the convention for having Kevin Spacey there, but HE went to the same convention. By his own logic, he went to a convention hosting a right wing extremist, therefore he must also be a right wing extremist!
@@illuminahdeNefarious is a really bad, really conservative horror movie that came out last year. And not “In Praise of Shadows” version of conservative, actual hard right wing rhetoric. It’s quite literally a fundamentalist Christian propaganda film. VERY anti-secular and actually pushes the message that all non-Christians are agents of Satan, I’m not even joking. Just absolutely unhinged, paranoid stuff that’s essentially the far right equivalent of radical leftism.
@@captainawf2341I like that that's not even you just saying that, that's his logic applied to himself. Dude is more than a clown or circus, he is the very idea of comedy itself, nothing then an utterly pure joke of a human.
If this guy considers oompaville a gun enthusiast then oompaville is also a ceo of an international candy company
My farts are better than Oompaville's farts.
@@p-__my farts are better than you're farts. Silence bot.
@@p-__proof???
He might also consider him a youtuber
@@p-__ dude you're farting a lot. I'd get checked for colon cancer.
To be fair, Wendigoon broke into my house through my bedroom window when I was 8. He slapped me in the face, called me the “F” slur, and said that nobody would ever believe and jumped out of the window and into the night like some sort of hyper dimensional cryptid
@@MaryGen-xo6zfcan't disprove it
@@MaryGen-xo6zfThere is no human Wendigoon. His body was taken and copied by a cryptid years before his channel was made
@@MaryGen-xo6zf do you really think a wendigo would break into my house while yelling about government cheese hidden in caves across the country? If I didn’t know any better, I’d say that you’re probably wendigoon or one of his hired gang stalkers trying to gaslight me. He said “my name is wendigoon and I’m going to hire gangstalkers to gaslight you in RUclips comment sections if you ever try to speak out”. Nice try
I don't believe you
Weird cuz he's just randomly drives by my house to call me bundle of sticks, British cig, word slurs.
Generalizing the Appalachian population as being "racist unless proven otherwise" based on there being very few people in X ethnic group in it implies that the default position is that of being racist. I think that says far more about him and what's in his head than the people he's attacking.
Well said!
Even if they were so what? They keep to themselves. The accusations of supposed racism are just another millstone coastal elites hang around the neck of an already impoverished and downtrodden group of people.
Not to mention, he's quoting Maggie Valley which is full of more vacation homes and Air bnbs. It's the boonies of North Carolina and if you are born and raised there obviously it's more white people. He's using the smallest area to try and make his point. Claiming he knows something about an area and can't even say Appalachian right.
@@kourtneyykayy8047 doesn’t North Carolina still have a bunch of sundown towns? You’re not really making a great argument there….
its classism and a way to divide, "of course poor people don't have access to proper education, so instead of fixing this, let's make fun of them".
I still can't believe that the dude defended a child predator and tried to scold people for being glad that one bit the dust in an encounter where a cop was actively defending a child.
Classic self report
I was under the impression that the person who was shot was a * suspected * predator, meaning he hadn't been convicted of the crime. I may be totally wrong about that, but it makes more sense if that's the case.
To be fair tho, that thumbnail is a lil bit distasteful 😭
Well, to the cops he was armed, wasn't complying and had assaulted people already so they did their jobs, predator or not...
@@LoveLee_Dreamerhe was defending a child on the scene, it was kind of on the scene and in the moment but yeah, hes definitely a pdf file and the guy was goiing for his gun to begin with, that was reason he was shot not so much the pdf case
Politics aside, this dude sounds like he has no friends.
No way someone can spew a bunch of bs and not come of as insufferable to most people.
I've met people like this, its just walking on eggshells and obnoxious yapping.
This guy is the personification of reddit
I think it’s exactly the fact that people like him who make politics their entire identity, that he struggles to make friends.
He oozes smug self-importance and it’s so grating
Well said. Unfortunately, overly political people that go insane without any self awareness or common sense, tend to be miserable just like this. People like him eventually ruin themselves and others in the process. Perfect example of someone not to be. Everyone is free to have their own beliefs but also love and respect people as individuals.
this is like when shippers see two characters just breathe next to each other and assume they're madly in love but for politics
actually so true lol
Um except it isn’t because that’s fictional and these are real actual people??
@@iamjackspyramidshapedhelmet true but its just as absurd
To be fair sometimes people do that with real people for politics too. Thanks to recent events there are Trump x Biden Shippers.
@@TotallyCluelessGamer Kinda seems like they're all the exact same people lol
Wendigoon is also friends with a number of liberal content creators as well, something he failed to mention. Is it so crazy to have friends of different political parties? This guys wild!
I don't know why, but when he said he's friends with "one of the biggest fascist bootlickers on the internet" actually made my drink come out my nose.
There was an argument in his "Bad Conservative Horror Movies" video where he said something along the line of "If you put 10 people and a fascist in a single room and let them have a discussion, you're gonna get 11 fascists". So yeah, the guy IS wild.
@@erichzannbusoumuzan And I wouldn't trust this person in defining what counts as "fascist" either. Apparently having an average traditional belief + being kinda brash/bravado about is fascist by this person's standards it seems.
@@EE-iv5ejanyone to the right of Lenin
yeah also he uses someone being friends with Shoe0nHead as a "gotcha" against them in the video, which even speaking as someone who's really not a fan of Shoe, one of the things she's actually been mostly heavily criticized for by leftists and rightists is the fact that she's friends with a *really* wide range of people across the political spectrum, so her being friends with someone says actually *nothing* about their political leanings, like saying "this person is friends with Shoe" is about as meaningful as saying "this person owns a car"
His sheer jealousy of Wendigoon just radiates through the screen. He’s like a little kid trying to convince everyone to kick the cool kid out of the club house because he desperately wants to take his place.
Mooooom they didn't let me play with them even though I never asked! They're bad people!
As someone from Appalachia, I don't know what that guy is talking about. A significant portion of the people here are too poor to be prejudice against someone else on the basis of race. Doesn't matter if you're black or white. We're all in the gutter here lol.
I also live in Appalachia, and it honestly just depends on the town, just like anywhere else in the country. I live in an area with lots of bigotry but I've lived and been to other areas in Appalachia without such issues.
also from appalachia, yes there’s racists from that area. it’s disingenuous to say everyone is racist tho.
What's even funnier is that he's from Asheville which is also in Appalachia. He literally just called himself out.
This is what gets me the most. He can try to deny being racist since it's "against other white people" but that doesn't change how that whole rant was CLASSIST AF
Exactly poverty bridges all boundaries and poverty doesn't see color. It unites people of all backgrounds. I grew up really poor, it was hard but I'm really greatful for the array of friends and people I had throughout my life. I cannot stand this perspective that was touched on here.. Such a closed minded toxic mindset
People that are interested in guns are no different from people that are interested in other types of weapons (i.e. swords, spears, bows) and all of it is genuinely interesting. It doesn't mean you're a bad person if you like those kinds of things
The biggest critics of guns are often people who have no experience around them.
I think it’s funny to imagine an alternate universe where Funko POPs are commonly used as blunt weapons, and POP collectors are seen as psychotic monsters for their disturbing hobby
I definately think that there is more of a stigma with the US gun scene, but i think its in large part because of the unique issues that the nation has to deal with. You dont see swiss gun owners get brought up because its not really publicised or an issue. As for the other weapons, i think its because we as a society have sort of trivialised them and disconnected them from current war or conflict. Theyre in our movies, games, and history- you dont see Gangs in chicago duelling with swords, nor do most infantry charge into battle with maces and whatnot
@@johncruelty20shit...got a lil carried away. Im sorry
@@MalichiShivers ?
as an enrolled, born and raised in the culture Native, i promise the spirits probably aren’t worried about someone’s youtube handle.
Yeah but the progressive doesn't care what you think, they will speak for you anyway, even though he doesn't know the first thing about your culture.
I agree
as a spirit, born and praised in the shadows, I'm very worried about someones RUclips handle
Question: why WOULD someone care, anyway? I imagine it'd be kind of like an Irish person yelling "feck's sake, stop putting banshees in your stories!"
isn't the whole taboo about saying the name supposed to be the native word for a skinwalker? If I remember correctly it's not the Wendigo at all and it's also not any word used for either creature in pop culture.
as an indigenous person, Wendigoons name has never bothered me. If anything it's kinda cool to me that some of my cultures creatures are more known about. Culture should be shared not gatekeeped.
How could you say something so transphobic!
I agree, and Isaiah happens to be of Cherokee Descent himself too.
dont be such a racist
What a white supremacist and racist thing to say
and the man is even 1/4 cherokee but zane/ipos does not see that as ''enough'' apparantly? and still calls it as actual appropriation and that isaiah/wendigoon is ''too white'' and mixed out to be native, even if the guy has a fourth of his heritage and culture directy shared from his native grandpa. the hitpiece from zane is just a whole virtue signaling mess that hypocritically and ironically goes against the values and minorities etc he is claiming to help/protect
"That is the job of an artist to some degree, to comment on current social issues".
I cannot begin to express how much I hate this way of thinking, that art has to have an acknowledgement of the current thing otherwise it has an inherent lesser value compared to those that do. It's an entirely single minded and boneheaded way of looking at things where people are expecting or sometimes demanding that an artist acknowledges something that they care about, even if it cannot meaningfully be brought into what they are trying to make.
Art is expression. Film writers, directors, musicians, painters and even slam poets have only one simple job, to express something meaningful to them.
Exactly. Most of my favorite books and films came from the 1930's - 1980's, and I wasn't even born until 95. Themes and stories that actually have real value are timeless and transcend all barriers.
Problem with it is especially that artists aren’t necessarily scientists or something similar. What I mean is that often they then don’t focus on things they actually understand, not saying that people cannot comment stuff. But it should be something that means something to the artist and something they know about. Their success as artists isn’t linked to that type of stuff. And if there is a pressure to talk about something, it is going to eventually be phrased dangerously.
His 'The Hills Have Eyes' critique is so infuriating. 'They could have used this as a metaphor for the meat industry' yeah but that's not what the movie's about! Any movie could be altered to make a political statement, but not everything has to be political. You know why they use shock value? Cause it's a horror movie. The point is to be horrified, not to mull on a deep metaphor for the unethical consumption of meat.
And nothing will evoke imagery of butchers and factory farming like... an RV in the Mojave Desert. At least Texas Chainsaw HAD butcheries and meat lockers
Tbh the Hills have eyes is better if you look at it as a class conflict than a race one, they both white, the difference is one are poor the others are middle class/rich, the cannibals are doing what they do in order to survive, still wicked but understandable and the family is forced to do the same in order yo survive, not really because they hate them or want them to know their place (also if recall correctly the script was based on the legend of Swaney Bane, a scottish folk piece)
I think Harold and Kumar has deep undertones, it's a critique of the social class system and a deep dive into the drug problems plaguing our country
@@Yltimate_not mention our infrastructure failures and educational deficiencies especially when it comes to geography and trying to obtain small fast food cheeseburgers 😂
Meanwhile, atunsheis breakdown of ravenous is peak
Talking in the same sentence about racism and generalizing an entire group of people is genuinely insane.
Especially when he is doing so blindly, and just acting like black people (me) in or around Appalachia don’t exist and that the people there are just inherently racist. I’m not saying that doesn’t exist, but I am saying the mountains don’t put some magic hate in people to give cause for gross generalizations like that
isnt that the same with Hasan and Hasan's moderators? "I hate racism... with that being said, all white people are bad" arguments.
fr. its crazy because people like him and who think like him are the ones who are supposedly trying to “fight racism”, meanwhile being literal racists themselves. 😭😭💀
Fr its like he's trying to fight racism with racism which never ends well
@@LegiamasC-OnTwitta Right. I had this kind of argument with someone who travels and acted like their stopping sometimes in my part of Appalachia gave them more insight than me living here all my life.
Oompa calling Ben Shapiro "the WAP guy from Daily Wire" has me dead
That's honestly all he should be remembered for
Lifetime achievment tbh
@@DZ-DizzyDumm
Yeah that's the least offensive and most entertaining thing he's done
@@TextbookSadassreal, it’s the one time I smiled while watching Ben Shapiro do anything
Or the guy who swears he loves free speech then fires his employee, who's job was to give her thoughts on any given topic for expressing her thoughts. Doesn't roll off the tongue as well as wap guy though.
It's funny how he can critique someone for being anti-government and then call them a fascist in the same sentence.
“I don’t like you based on what I assume your politics are” is such a childish way to be anyway. Wendigoon wouldn’t be that way to anyone. Dude needs to grow up.
Yeah it sounds sad. Tho i feel like alot of people especially older ones do this way to often. I rly hope one day we will get to the point where people dont judge others based on what they think they do or are.
As a former leftist, I can tell you it's a way of life for many of them.
@TheBigBigSean As a moderate that actually shares beliefs from both sides, it’s a way of life for a lot of both of them. Don’t be intellectually disingenuous.
@thebigbigsean I was a bit like this when I was 17. I barely left my room and was very mentally ill. I switched from watching anti SJW videos to pretty much being one. It was the worst period of my life
@@CorporalGrievous93 Yep, I usually hate both-sidesing but bad arguments and bad logic are not restricted to any particular political ideology.
Saddest part about this whole debacle is that IPOS will never fully understand why he got the criticism in the first place and just assume that the problem lies not with him but with the rest of the world
Yeah. It is just super sad. Sounds like he needs help and needs to unironically get out more. Pick a hobby and start meeting people is always my advice when I meet someone who spends way too much time online.
Pretty much. Some of his discord was leaked, and he pretty much said he did nothing wrong, and only apologized cause he didn't expect the blowback
complete arrogance fueled by ignorance
This 1000%. I was actually a fan of his before the political brainrot set in. Watching this unfold has been equal parts fascinating and horrifying. I want to believe that anyone can be brought back from the edge, but when I see people like this I just don't know. He's been led so far astray and there are so many layers of wrongness to his thinking that I wouldn't even know where to begin to convince him not to be so blindly hateful.
“Horror is about kindness and love” is particularly funny because, out of all genres of cinema, includes in fact the least amount of kindness and love
I'm pretty sure Freddy would loooove to give him a tight hug and sweet dreams.
Ah yes my favorite horror story about kindness and love, in the mouth of madness.
He's a fan of horror who's never heard of HP Lovecraft 😂
Ah yes, the most loving creatures in the universe, Xenomorphs.
@@JessicaMarquez-tx8rl Ah yes, the most kind, and loving man that totally wasn't basically a paranoid Adolf if he never went into politics. Horror is all kindness and love. /sarcasm
Is Wendigoon even a conservative? I always thought he was a more libertarian type of guy. Or is shadows one of those “everything right of Stalin is fascism” kind of people and doesn’t really understand the different groups on the right?
No, he's a kinda guy who thinks that if others don't think like him, then they're wrong & he's right - *no matter what.*
I think the center of his political compass is Vladimir Lenin
I think so. So many people are like him that it's depressing.
he called the boogaloo boys "a fascist movement", a meme about guys who couldn't run a mile saying they'll overthrow the government if they take guns is
"fascist" to him, so absolutely the latter
shadows is just an idiot, not even a leftist. more like an identitarian. dude has never heard of the class war and obviously hates poor people and workers and would never ever get a manual labor job. man i hate these trust fund kid wannabe academics, they would be totally useless for any revolution, we should ignore them.
I love the fact that he was like "Wendigoon shouldn't be seen as the wholesome guy you think he is" and Wendigoon proceeded to wholesome guy him to virtual death.
My favorite part was when he said “it’s wholesome guying time” and wholesome guy’d all over the place
@@KodaCatsune surely one of the wholesomes of all time
My favorite part is when his discord was leaked and revealed that he held no remorse for his baseless slander and was only concerned whether it'll hurt his career in the long run.
Wait, where can I find that?
Oh, it's even funnier.
He tries to emotionally manipulate his discord members by saying that it negatively affects *his partner* and that he had to choose between making money (which ironically, he could easily do considering he admitted he doesn't do ads) or doubling down on the tortured artist bit.
@@SSD_Penumbra How was he even making money on youtube without ads? Just donations or something?
@@NotHarpoGroucho Patreon. That's it. He made it clear in his community posts and videos that he doesn't do ads "even though he has offers" for some reason.
He's larping as a tortured artist
@@SSD_Penumbra What a dork lol
Putting him in Wendigoon’s set up for the thumbnail is devious work
My farts are better than Oompaville's farts.
The fact I'm watching this after watching one of wendigoon's videos too lol
Wendi gang here? 🧌
@@p-__prove it.
Fits considering this guy reeks of envy, and so desperately wants to skinwalk into Wendigoon.
honestly it sounds like Wendigoon rejected his friendship at one point and now he's mad about it XD
Prime example of why the advice "don't take political advice from terminally online weirdos" is the most true advice. I've known and met people my whole life on many different sides of the political spectrum.
The common denominator I've noticed is the ones with genuine social connections are the most level-headed people I've ever spoken to, and the ones who spend all their time online are genuinely unhinged.
As someone with chronic illness who lives online I pray I never end up like some of the most online among us
I think this is generally true as well, probably because the internet and a lack of genuine social connections allows them to dehumanize others.
The red flag should have been being a literal communist. We all disregard literal nazis, we shouldn't tolerate literal communists either.
This is just a rule of thumb. Don't talk with people on the internet about serious issues. Most of the time, they can't handle a different opinion or are just unhinged.
@@erwynnipegerwynnipeg8455 AMONGUS
For someone who loves horror movies, he should know The Hills Have Eyes is based on an actual incestuous cannibal family. There was no political commentary. He reached so hard he pulled a muscle.
It's the Sawney Bean clan in Scotland, right? That's what I heard.
@@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954 yep. director Wes Carven was looking for a story to film and came by the legend. he saw the parrals between the clan savagely killing people, and later being tortued, burned, and hung by for their crimes.
he reached so hard, he dislocated his arm
my friend, just because it’s based on a real story doesn’t mean it isn’t political. I don’t agree w his analysis either but this comment lacking media literacy no offense
Calling wendigoon a fascist when he's probably the most anti government youtuber I've ever followed is real wild.
he'd be more inclined to sign an NDA from the Yeti than the government. Literally his words😂
Yep. Something the Woke Left doesn't seem to get.
if they don't like someone they have to be a facist even if they aren't so they have to spin this wild tale about how they actually are.
Just by saying wendigoon shouldn't be accepted into society he demonstrated he's the real fascist
Fascism is populist. The "authoritarianism" of fascism is - at least historically - is an authoritarian actor working on behalf of the goverened.
It just bypasses the masquerade of democracy and entrusts a powerful leader to act on behalf of the people and sidestep the 'big government'.
Once you realize fascism is populist, it's a lot easier to understand why anti-government people often become fascist.
What's funny is that Wendigoon explores conspiracy theories that are often EXTREMELY breaded and preserving folklore is a time-honored tradition of lefty anthropologists. The breadbowlution eats its own soup
“Wendigoon CLAIMS to be anti-government” bro literally makes hour long history lessons about the horrors inflicted upon the American people BY the govt
@@AH-xn9or And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, pun intended
As a brown person who has lived in Appalachian areas, I can honestly say the deep rooted Appalachian people are very much kind and welcoming with a strong sense of community and tradition. It's the people in the suburbs and law enforcement that you have to worry about.
There are no brown people in Appalachia
@@oompavillejust people, we're all just people, except for the lizards pretending to be us that run the government
@@K_whatever24there are no people in Appalachia, only cryptids.
It is the only place on the East Coast I miss. The mountains are full of deep lore and weird people. Go to the West Coast where the real racism lives these days. I had to leave my beautiful home in Seattle because it got crazy with all of it. Granted I spend 10 months a year in Iraq working, but now I live in the high mountain deserts of New Mexico where people have their heads on, mostly.
@@K_whatever24 actually there are no people in Appalachia, only cryptids.
Defending a child lover was definitely NOT the flex he thought it was 💀
peethan moment
@@naenae2350idk what a peethan is but it sounds like a solid insult lol
@@captaingramcrackergrams5990It's another breadtuber but worse
His white savior complex is insane.
😂
"you aren't enough of a minority to supercede my opinion as a white advocate" is a wild one
Imagine trying to survive a short conversation with this mf...
he's genuinely racist to white people and i'm saying that as a minority, like the Appalachia comment was disgusting
Yeah imagine telling someone native that they can’t participate in the native culture. It’s literally erasing the culture further
24:14 as a North Carolinian we don’t claim him, also it’s honestly mind blogging how someone can live in this area and simultaneously have no earthly idea what they are talking about like yes Appalachia is pretty white but every person I’ve ever met there is one of the sweetest people I’ve ever met
It’s Asheville syndrome. I love Asheville but the people there sometimes get really bogged down in the echo chamber there, just as they can in other places
It's funny how he tried to accuse everyone in the video to be "extremists" but gave every reason in it in the most "extremist" way he can by pulling every assumption and speculation that exposed him as the most racist, sexist and ableist person in the comparison group. He pretended to care so much for people he claims to defend that he did a full 180 turn to see them as lesser than himself.
lowkey gives "if you kick out all the immigrants who's gonna be cleaning your toilet". I love how people can come full circle like this not realizing the side they're on vs the side they're trying to argue against
In the eyes of an extremist, everyone that doesn’t think EXACTLY like them is an extremist.
I watched his video on The Hills Have Eyes.
He said the cannibal wild tribe represents Native Americans or black people.
What a smug condescending racist thing to say!
When you go so far left you just become racist lol
That's how the far left operates, they paint you with a broad brush, and then use that to prove you're pure evil, so anything they say about you must be true. The far right uses the same tactic less successfully, labeling every femenist or pro choice person as socialist. The most extreme people in the world assume everyone is just as extreme as them. If you disagree with them just a little bit, you must be extreme on the other side of the spectrum.
Im a goth girl that went to art school, I’m about as open minded and accepting as you can be (i try my best to be)
10 minutes into this video, This dude reminds me of the few individuals in art school that made me think, “actually, i am a hater”
Taking things toooo seriously man
Im not a gun fan, I’m not religious, i love Wendigoon. I find his religion videos educational. Dudes funny, but also very smart and informative. So is Oompa.
There are just bigger issues out there to worry about than making problems out of nothing
goth girl that went to art school is the best certification one can have
Nice, that's pretty awesome. I personally love Goth themes and love art myself since i love to draw and make art.
Similarly, I am pretty open minded as well while having views of my own and respecting and understanding different views and perspectives as well. People need to really understand how to interact, cooperate and respect people with different stances. It's a sign of maturity. Due to this, I can have views of my own and I can different types of friends of all types etc.
@@drew8947Indeed, pretty great combination honestly.
@@drew8947this is the loneliest comment
seriously! Wendigoon taught me about Christianity without forcing it on me. that's the best you can ask for in a Christian
this guy couldn't accept a nice respectful person because the had different opinions (that he mostly kept to himself)
shout out artsy goth women
“He wears a Hawaiian shirt so he’s racist” - guy wearing a Hawaiian shirt as he says that
That was my absolute favorite part.
He was clearly making fun of wendigoon when he did that, tho
@@Mavisdundundunnnmanston he inadvertently made more fun of himself than anything, saying w.goon is racist because of the groups he was briefly associated with is completely absurd, you can't just not mock this guy
@@zogwort1522 me personally I only ever don a hawaiian shirt when I'm feeling especially racist that morning
@@Mavisdundundunnnmanston idk if that's clear tbh - cause even as a "joke" his entire line of thinking says guilty by association so wearing it at all ...makes him guilty
Him gatekeeping Native American stuff is pretty funny. If he had his way, I wouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on my own heritage/culture, despite being an enrolled tribal member. (I'm white with a native grandfather.) I suppose he'd want me to stop speaking Ojibwe too, lol.
The old languages are so cool
This ended up being such a wholesome moment in internet drama because it brought together people from all political perspectives to point and laugh
Actually I was totally thinking the same thing here. We got a whole political spectrum here 😭
Perhaps IPOS is the true horror villain that united us all to face a common evil.
He is going to have a heck of a time making a living as a starving artist now... he is actively being compared to Blaire (Illumin.) after this... and he does not have a big enough following to survive just on the loyalists.
it’s like the end of watchmen
the subreddit r/youtubedrama is hellbent on defending him because they hate wendigoon.
As an avid homosexual, I have SO much testosterone to the point where I feel obligated to share it with other men 😞
As a bisexual, I may have laughed more than I should have
I nearly died reading that oml
You're doing God's work, sir, keep it up.
Disgusting.
@@TheTruthAlwaysWins169cry about it incel
"Everyone from Appalachia is deeply racist unless they prove otherwise"
*is Appalachian and immediately proves himself racist*
Can't make this stuff up
"Hawian shirts are a facist dog whistle and wendigoon wearing them is proof he may be a facist"
He says smugly in his hawian shirt
reminds me of the chad guy from tucker and dale vs. evil, the one who hates hillbillies and (spoilers?) is like half-hillbilly or whatever
And the hawaiian shirt bit "the bogaloo boys all ware hawaiian shirts yknow else does" he says smugly in a hawaiian shirt
Ruckus from boondocks vibe
My question is how do you prove that you’re NOT racist? Do I have to show off my diverse friends like prized cattle?
In middle school Wendigoon pushed me against the locker and stole my lunch money. Geeeshhh
Dude absolutely, in elementary Wendigoon creased my sketchers and called me smelly
Few years ago wendigoon kidnapped me, said "it's gooning time" and then forced me to watch all his cryptid videos. Very traumatic
He tripped me in highschool and told me “be goon or be gone.” :( I’ve been dealing with the trauma since.
Seeing this comment is hilarious after the whole 'Jacoby' rant when Wendi was high on painkillers
“And there’s only 15 Native Americans even tho the town is touching the reservation” MY BROTHER IN CHRIST THATS BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE RESERVATION
Like shocker 😂
Natives live in or around towns, built in or around Reservations
Like wow
Iq 50000000
Its a lso just a blatant non statement. Imagine the town had 20 people living there.
This smug guy getting absolutely dunked on by the entire internet is one of my favorite youtube things of 2024
I saw your tweet on this and it’s kinda crazy how he almost “segregates” Appalachia because of what he might see online and not actually seeing the people and what goes on there.
He lives in Asheville, it doesn't surprise me that he has these incorrect and bigoted views about Appalachians. Asheville is basically Portland in the mountains.
I agree his prejudice is disgusting
He isn't even seeing anything online. He just made things up in his head about every single one of these people he 'hates'.
It's crazy how that part was straight up racial profiling all white Appalachians, which he promoted more people doing
for real
This dude made me find 3 RUclipsrs I had no idea about and am very thankful for it. Who knew a hit piece could unite so many people?
you missed the part where he called wendigoon racist for wearing a Hawaiian shirt while also wearing a hawaaiian shirt
Pretty sure that was intended to be a joke
Nah he has to be a troll
@@supraguy4694 idk it kinda came off bad considering the context of the rest of the video
Didnt he switch to that when talking about wendigoon in the video? So it feels delibirate, not an oopsie. But when he uses it as a diss on wendigoon the joke kinda fails.
Praise in Shadows has like a weird White Savior Complex.
Yes. He seems like hes a rich white kid who is patronizing people
Common among the far left
And yet he made so many assumptions and lumped so many people together in a racist narrative to try and make himself look holy! I can’t! ✋😭
@@rcheim5252sadly this is just a white person thing doesn’t matter about politics lol
I get that vibe from a lot of breadtubers
Not did he make such a harmful sweeping generalization about a large demographic of Southerners, but he also pronounced Appalachia incorrectly.
If you say “Apal-AY-cha”, I’ll throw an apple atcha
Could've been worse, he could've pronounced it Apple-ack-uh
Hey I love the South but y'all mispronounce a lot of our Northern stuff too so it's only fair for us to mispronounce your stuff from time to time 😂
to be fair, the appa-lay-shun/appa-latch-un divide is just another north/south thing. it all depends on where in appalachia you grew up. appa-lay-shun gets more play bc some of the biggest journalistic centers in america (namely, nyc and boston), are in the north, so that pronunciation got popularized outside its native area via newscasters. and the word itself comes from the Apalachee people, comprised of 'apala' and 'chee', meaning something like "people by the sea" (don't quote me on that). so the "real" pronunciation may be different from both the ones prevalent today!
@@emilysheldon3284 Look…not that I disagree with you, but I also don’t wanna hear anything from a Northerner about pronunciation after learning how y’all say “Worcester”.
Bro let’s Wendigoon live in his head rent free.. compared to his actual rent lol
Shadows wrote paragraphs on how sorry he was but on discord he was bragging on how no one said he was wrong.. I’m glad you’re talking about it too
He didn't even apologize in his public "apology"
@@Henry8VIII8 you’re right I’m giving him too much credit. Hey at least he didn’t use an ukele for his apologies…?
@@Henry8VIII8 Yeah the apology was like "I'm sorry you felt this way about these things and I'm sorry if it affected you negatively... But actually everything I said was correct and your response proves it!"
@@Jjbleasebaby😂
It’s funny he can say that when he literally got ran off of RUclips for his backwards thought process.
*kicks 10 hornets nests*
*gets stung*
"they have sent fans to call me f slurs"
that how the internets work theses day.
create the problem -> get some money from it -> get hate -> play the victim -> rince and repeat
I wish his Twitter wasn't locked down, because I want to call I'm the f slur: a fake and a fraud. :)
Fascist? An authorization socialist sounds pretty fascist to me. They're fault for using it as a slur for anyone they don't like.
@@brainrain1142yeah, but he picked the wrong target. I don't think he thought people wouldn't take his side, he expected wendigoon to get canceled, and all his viewers to just switch to him.
1) I watch most of these channels
2) I'm not American and American politics doesn't apply to me.
3) I'm 48 and been round the block a few times
4) this seems to be a case of _"my competition are (Insert latest slur) and are guilty by association. Therefore if you associate with my competition you are also (repeat slur from above)"_
I've seen it many times before.
Edit:. His attempted moustache makes him look like someone I want to keep far away from my children....
he has such a punchable face
I dont agree with any of the views in the original video about the people involved. But labeling someone a bigot of any kind or a bootlicker is not the same as using slurs. In this case it *is* slanderous, but thats because dudes an idiot and didnt do any research.
Guy is so close to looking like Angry Austrian Mustache Man
@@Astrid-td1to I mean, the distinction between slurs and non slurs is a very western thing.
@@testacals No? That is total bs what? where did you pull that out of?
This is the typa guy to go to feminist rallies to try and get with the women there
Totally that type. It's a put on personality that's a means to an ends.
“Oompaville is gun-obsessed” yeah something tells me that has to do with autism and not a general desire to harm people.
Pro mental health people don’t see mental health as a cause, but something to squeeze dry for their own benefit
That, and seeing mechanical devises in action is just sort of cool in general. It's common to think that. Most of the "gun people" out there in the world are on the same wave length as "heavy machinery people" and "ancient tech people" out there. It's just... Look at it go, how cool! It's not violent impulses that sustains this level of interest, if it was only about the violence that could be caused, they wouldn't be out here comparing, like, the trigger pull and the ergonomics of grip designs and barrel length. They'd just be doing the violence since now they have the capacity.
as someone that considers myself to be more left leaning, it’s always so crazy to me when people who have only ever lived in highly populated areas view guns as a wholly evil thing. Things are bad in bigger cities, I will never deny that. But I’m from a rural area and so many people’s livelihoods are built on having access to guns. I know so many children that wouldn’t be fed without hunting season. So many families would lose their businesses. I’m all for background checks and being more responsible with who gets guns, but when we live in a society with so many communities built on them, taking them away entirely can only do more harm.
I agree with everything you said here
Yeah, same. I’m fairly left leaning, but even I would own a small handgun or a shotgun for home defense. I hunt, go to ranges, and may start conceal carrying once I’m of age.
I do uphold the idea that guns should have a bit more regulation than they do, and more thorough background checks and better gun safety training should become standard. However, I don’t want guns to be banned entirely.
I totally agree, i live in a country where guns are heavily regulated, and bcus of that I don’t see them in a negative light at all. I think they are very necessary in a number of situations, although the thought of ppl just carrying them around for everyday life does make me a bit uncomfortable.
Or us Europeans.
Also isn’t it a pretty firm leftist belief that you should hold the rights to arms to potentially combat oppressive government? Like I’m not a gun guy myself but even I know that.
I just feel honored to be included in the Soylent Manifesto 😂
😛
Admin is just a tiny bit salty he got left out.
lol Brandon you have the best videos related to guns
Sup Brandon o/
Ak guy crossover? Let’s gooo
20:25 I sometimes do say "as long as it doesn't affect me" but what I mean is as long as I am not in the splash zone of whatever is happening. Nobody should be forced to experience something against their will.
This guy seriously just destroyed whatever he had left of his career on RUclips. So embarrassingly cringey
He destroyed whatever he had left of any career in general. After this, he is probably one of the least respectable and therefore least hirable people on earth
Actually deleted any chance of a comeback from that old vid, he could at least have said that was a long time ago and he's learned but this just actually done him fot real
@@soroushkowsarian3364 Or he could do worse
The Illuminaughtii way
Continue ingnoring the problem to the point that whatever she uploaded, it will get dogpiled
I moved from Illinois to Georgia. My experience with Appalachia has been nothing but positive and safe. These are some of the most generous and considerate people in America.
I love how he wouldn't dare mention cr1tikal. Wendigoo has many ties with charlie, same as you. charlie also has many stances on multiple views the same as you. He knew if he targeted charlie too, he would be over
As soon as he hit “load”, he would have been cancelled so hard, his channel would have left a crater.
Not that it really saved him, tho.
honestly attack Wendigoon alone is dumb enough aside from Wendi himself didn't do anything wrong to the guy. its like bullying a kid that have 10 older brothers that's are Navy Seal, like what do you think will happen.
Or meatcanyon for that matter. One way ticket to an animated clowning lol
He didn't want that smoke
"Horror is about kindness. Horror is about love."
Sounds like something a low test person would say.
Bro can’t stop catching opps
My farts are better than Oompaville's farts.
oompaville? more like OP'aville
He kinda made the ops himself tho so he deserves all the hate he made himself. Zero sympathy for bums like him
In Praise of the Opp 🙏
What is an opp? I truly have no idea.
do people not realize you can be friends with people who dont hold the same political views
b-b-but dont they have to agree with everything I say?
Only surround yourself with people who fully agree with you. It is the only way to be a successful person, by creating an echo chamber that kills all critical thought.
when it comes to people like him, politics are everything.
"You are the company you keep" say the leftoids with no realization to the consequence of this being applied when they defend pdfiles
Breadtubers cannot fathom that idea
I HATE people like this. Acting offended for other races. I am Native American and find nothing about Wendi racist at all. I'd actually love to hang out with him. When people like that dude act all savior for all races it's actually killing talks of other cultures. There is barely any Native American representation now because of them. We had a Hockey team and 2 Football teams. Now we have 1 football team. I love seeing Native stuff being talked about or presented. I also despise the term "Indigenous" it just sounds more offensive than calling us Redders to me.
I am not a person calling for representation or cries about names but I can not stand when people act offend-y for us without hearing anything from the race. People just need to mind their own business.
Realistically speaking, Zane would probably talk down to you and say you have "internalized racism" because that's how it works with people like him. People like him are so attached to the idea of race and skin color that it's at least just as dehumanizing in my mind as the racism they claim to fight, because by insisting on getting offended on other peoples behalf, they deny those same people, not just their individuality and ability to think for themselves, but also the fact that these same people are more than just their literal most surface level trait.
Yeah, every American Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (from Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams and or products named in honor of Natives.... from my experience it is only pathetic white leftists who virtue signal about it...
Yeah, every American Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (from Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams and or products named in honor of them.... from my experience it is only white leftists who virtue signal about it...
Yeah, every Indian/First Nations person I have ever known (Co-Workers, friends, Girlfriends) had absolutely no problem with/ Loved sports teams or products named in honor of them, from my experience it is only Yt leftists who virtue signal about it.
Him equating the cannibals to Native Americans is adding to the problem.
I've learned that I have to watch these as soon as they come out in case they get taken down
Exactly
Real
My farts are better than Oompaville's farts.
Yes, I missed the bobby Lee video 😢
@@FakedDolphin watched the pyrocynical one i bet?
I have completely different religious and political views from nearly all of my friends, I am still friends with them. It doesn’t mean that any of us are “bad people.”
With the Hills Have Eyes movie, does he not know that movie is based/Inspired by a Scottish family (Sawney Bean, The head of the family) who lived in a cave and killed passersby's to steal from them, then they ate the bodies to hid them from the public eye.
Nope! That’s why he compared them to indigenous people.
Fun fact. As a Scot, there is zero evidence Sawney Bean ever existed. It was made up by an anti Scottish English newspaper who's editor was shocked when he visited the area and found the Scots had turned it into a tourist attraction. ;)
Also another reason why that doesn’t work is because leader just like the Scottish legend did live in ‘normal society’ but was violent and left it by choice. Don’t forget he has a monologue that’s a “You think you are better than me”. Super coded as the violent rednecks.
Also, the whole idea of the movie is the Nuclear Family vs. the Nuclear Waste Family
He might genuinely be disabled. Every sentence that came out of his mouth was verbal diarrhea.
Imagine calling others "Fascists" and a couple of minutes later saying someone shouldn't be welcome in society because they were born in a specific place...
Or shouldn't be allowed in society or horror of all genres for having certain political beliefs lol
As a person of color living in the Appalachian mountain area of the US, I can say for certain that I rarely ever have issues with racism where I'm at. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but if you live here you would know the area is incredibly diverse and the people are incredibly hospitable in spite of history. In fact, back when I lived in the Midwest is when I encountered the most issues with racism- but its not like I call everyone in that area racist. We just ended up in an unfortunate location/situation with the people around us, and that could happen anywhere. Ironically, it feels as though the most racist person here is the guy accusing every white person on the east coast of being inherently racist.
"You can't be racist toward white people. It's not possible" -IPOS probably.
I lived in a southern mid west area growing up and I know that a lot of people were racist (I'm white but I was able to pick up on the micro agressions), but were still hospitable and even nice to PoC and treated them better than a lot of people who claim to not be racist where I live now (northern US). The cultural differences of racist white people is wild.
As comedian Bill Burr says, to paraphrase: "apparently racism only exists in the South, and in Boston, Massachusetts. L.A.? Nah, Milwaukee? Naaaaah. I'm surprised cause in Wisconsin they breed serial killers" obviously taking a more joking tone at the end lol
I feel like Oompa is a pretty neutral RUclipsr. I’m more of a leftist, but I have no problem listening to right winged people as long as they stay respectful. Oompa likes guns but in any video he’s all about safety and security when guns are involved. I used to be so afraid and against guns until I watched nickacado and him fire guns. too poor for candy , but the website looks amazing from an artist standpoint. And it was easy to navigate cause I have high functioning autism. And the fact that this RUclipsr is off when it comes to some of his movies is almost laughable that he tried to attack Oompa.
loved this comment, im also a leftist and this youtuber that hates everyone for having slight disagreements is honestly just black and white (leftist or n@zis) thinking that he critiques the criminal system for having those same methods of prosecution over rehabilitation
@@melonthemelonsyou’re not a leftist. you’re a liberal. you are a coward.
@@melonthemelons exactly! The world is morally grey! people often just go straight on attack mode, when instead we all should just exist. Which again is hard cause the world is morally grey.
Also a leftist, I think Oompa really is fair and balanced lol, even when he talks about leftists being weirdos he’s usually right.
I grew up around leftists my grandfather is about as democratic as they come and he served in the military and owns plenty of guns, even being pro gun control doesn’t mean being completly anti gun
The fact he can sit there and spout he’s inclusive but then say ‘don’t engage conservatives and centrist in any form even the art they make’ but then call them fascist and nazis is so beyond mind boggling.
Like you are being a fascist, you are being authoritarian, you are segregating, you are what you claim to hate.
"You were supposed to destroy the sith, NOT JOIN THEM!"
Yes! exactly, and here's the thing, I'm very left leaning, but I can still engage in art made by a conservative and not feel bad about (mind you, most heavy conservative art I don't find appealing) but saying just because someone's politics they don't deserve to make things is just dumb
That's why I never trust anyone that brags about how accepting, antiracist, antifascist or antidiscriminatory they are, because they always end up being the most hateful, racist, fascist and discriminatory people I've ever met lol.
Not really; fascist is a VERY specific kind of authoritarian and IPOS doesn't meet the criteria to be a fascist (... then again, neither does Wendigoon). HOWEVER... you are right on the money with him being an authoritarian; he absolutely is one.
Exactly! Like I’m a racist (to black people only) but I’m not gonna lie about it like a hypocrite lol
(I’m black btw)
My favorite part is when Zane calls out Wendigoon for being a fascist & a racist who's connected to the boogaloo boys because Wendigoon is wearing a Hawaiian shirt as Zane is literally wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
As Donut said "We need to be mean to people who are mean to Wendigoon" Some people took that to heart and bullied this man off the Internet
Donut is like Isaiah’s dad, I swear
Absolutely deserved
Donut has no issues with speaking truth. The guy generalized so much he became exactly what he accused others off.
I think there are some valid criticisms of Wendigoon. Firstly there's his ties to more extremist political ideologies that he hasn't fully dispelled just yet, there's also his use of the "wendigo" within his name which has caused some stir within online indigenous communties and there's also his limited research on certain topics within his videos that has garnered relative amounts of criticism from other video essayists.
I think discussing these issues in a civil manour to come to some sort of resolution is best, although I am aware that main people exist on the bases of "CRITICISM = MEAN = CANCELLATION" which is not what I'm saying or promoting.
I don't think anyone is free from criticism no matter how deep-cut that criticism can be or how mean it may appear to others, but as I know that Wendigoon is a nice guy with legitimate empathy thanks in part to his work as a Youth Pastor I do believe that after awhile these issues will be ironed out for the betterment of all involved.
@ActuallyHoudini the wendigo thing isn't even criticism it's a bunch of racists on Twitter segregating cultures and attacking him because they can't understand that the argument is invalid to begin with because he's native american
This has gone overlooked through the drama but I want to say IPOS also sided with Amber Heard and said Johnny Depp created the entire situation between them "for more money and fame". In the middle of a video about mental asylums in horror. IPOS has been unhinged for a while
The willful ignorance is wild 😂 johnny who's massive compared to amber doing it for fame and money but amber couldnt possibly be the one doing that
That’s literally irrelevant to the topic at hand
@@Pierriots I think that was their point, using it as an example of bringing up different parties for unrelated topics
My personal stance has always been that they both were horrible to each other
@@cooliostarstache5474 same i feel like johnny was probably a little bit absent/rude but amber was just downright abusive
Trashing Wendigoon, the most wholesome man to walk the face of this planet, is crazy.
Now we go to war
Imagine having an obsession to a candy man, the Oompaville himself. Leave this man alone, he just trying to have fun and selling candies.
“Time for me to show how accepting I am by being unaccepting of people who believe differently than myself!”
Ikr? The paradox of tolerance is supposed to refer to nazis and white supremacists (ie tolerating intolerance leads to more intolerance), it wasn't supposed to refer to everyone who isn't as left wing as you (this coming from a lefty myself). Him acting like Mutahar is a right winger just for rightfully calling out Keffals was laughable.
@@_lil_lil I don’t even agree with the lefty guy but Muta has stated many times he’s right leaning if not actually right wing and all of these dudes take shots at leftists on their podcasts all the time it’s wild to see oompa mystified that a left winger wouldn’t like him
@@_lil_lil I like how none of these people have yet been able to point to one TP thing Muta said or did, just keep yapping about that thumbnail.
@@_lil_lilit's also the inclusively paradox, that in order to include all you must exclude
@@_lil_lil especially since Mutahar was calling out Keffals for basically extorting her own community, which is full of trans people, and also lying about contributing to LGBT charities in order to extort said money. I used to be a fan of Keffals, and yeah a lot of horrible people have gone after her, but that doesn't change the fact that she basically defrauded a bunch of people (a great of many of them trans people themselves) and absolutely should be called out for it. Like I'd be very curious to hear what it is about Mutahar's coverage of the situation that he found transphobic, but like most of his crits of people in this video, he just throws around accusations (some of them actually pretty heavy) while backing them up with nothing. I'm not even like the biggest fan of Mutahar, and I've disagreed with him a number of times and think he's had some bad takes, but IPoS brings up absolutely no legitimate grievances against him.
My favorite part of the video is when he equated Native Americans to the Murderous flesh eating cannibals simply because they “were both defending their land”
FR, like.... isn't that ironically the most racist thing out of everything he mentioned in that video? lol
This is actually the progressive take.
It's not a mistake lol, a lot of people choose to forget the horrible practices of tribes in the past, in an effort to paint white people as worse
Literally 😭 bro has no chill. MLK and Malcom literally talked about his kind. 🤣
@@bigman1163 yes
@@alexandrahenderson4368They are the worst of the worst.
Thank you Poppa Oompa for bringing attention to the issue of mental illness. IPOS is not well.
just threw up a little
@DontReadMyProfile80nice try 😂
The professional yapper combined with the victim complex is a dangerous combo
Oompa having to continuously remind us to not dog pile is so funny. It's like a lawyer giving one of his arguments and turning to the jury and reminding them not to shoot the defendant.
He’s an example of what’s wrong with America honestly. To many dishonest journalists.
*Too many dishonest people.
Sadly it isn't just journalists anymore, but the public at large as a whole
Brother isn’t even a journalist, he’s a video essayist (which is worse because there’s a higher standard that RUclipsrs are held to with their content than modern-day journalists)
@@jamesreagan8175 based on journalists on twitter... youtube essayists are more honest and reliable. except for that video though it's just unhinged
as a native american, i would like this guy to stop talking like he knows anything about our culture 😭
I am cherokee and from the wolf clan, i am also scottish and irish so im white passing. I was brought up in a cherokee household and was taught our culture at a young age, so please be respectful of people in the comments, you don’t know anyone’s situation or who they are.
Don't you just love it when people cry "Cultural Appropriation" and proceed to do exactly that.
@@NemesisOgreKinglet alone people who cry “cultural appropriation” and they aren’t even from that culture.
There isn't even
1 NA culture. They can be VERY different.
@@CinematicInsanitythat’s my thing, I honestly prefer to ask people from different cultures if they believe something is cultural appropriation, because I think their view on it is more important that someone who isn’t involved with said culture.
@@An0nymous_L0gicThis is so true, it’s the same when people talk about SA tribes like they are all on the same side, try to get Xhosa and Zulu to agree on something, you’ll fail.
I don’t know much about native culture in America, but even still I would find it ignorant to act like their culture is all the same 🤦♀️
As a native Canadian from Alberta (one of the birth places of windymen) wendigoons user isn’t offensive to me at all. The most offensive thing was him saying the real word out loud with no warning 😂
@@Brick_Boi_ hate to break it to you but people have different beliefs!
I live in Alberta too!! 😊
That part. Like why say it... Out loud while saying it's bad to say out loud. This is the first time I'm seeing this weenuk and he's gotta be a troll
While I'm sure there _are_ people who dislike the username (as there are all sorts out there) I can't imagine there's a huge amount of people being so hurt by a play on words that alludes to a horrifying creature by a largely horror-based RUclips channel that they'd make a big enough stink about it to make it a key point in a hit piece. I can see someone IRL saying it's crass, certainly, but come on... Wendigoon is not the name of the entity. That's not, say, a whiteboi calling it out directly "fer akendemik reezonz, so sry" for a totally non-specific example. 😂
I personally am too dilute in genetics to be able to get the card (Métis from my mother's side. I'm like, 1/8th, so too far down the line) but I respect the folks who have the blood of the TRUE first settlers in their veins.
Dunno why I'm saying this, but I mean, I am of the opinion that IPOS is a POS, so there's that.
Bro, I've met wendigoon in the wild and he was every bit that "southern dad persona" naturally. He came to my store to get food for his snake. He was super polite before I even told him I watched his channel and knew who he was. He had a very humble demeanor and, when he realized he hadn't on his way out, came back to tell me his real name. I'd have loved to actually get to spend a little longer talking with him, actually, but I was helping other people. Based on that 5min random IRL interaction, I'll defend that dude at any point. Plus he's a Sunday school teacher in my community. Tf kinda person is going to be a married, very well off RUclipsr and still go out of their way to teach kids?
racists: makes assumptions about generalized groups of people
IPOS: makes assumptions about generalized groups of people
That's what the self proclaimed "anti-racists" types do
Best summary of the situation I've read so far. Right on.
29:33 I hate that this platform really has me recoiling in shock when I hear “suičide” instead of “self exit game” or something equally as annoying to dodge the demonetization hammer
9:56 Genuinely so upsetting. This guy’s just spreading rumors that have no backing or real research behind them without the people he’s lying about being aware he has ‘drama’ with them. I can’t imagine Wendigoon’s reaction to finding out that he’s being treated as someone that shouldn’t be accepted in the public. He seems like such a sweet guy and doesn’t deserve people spreading false rumors otherwise.
18:31 man loves divides so much he's pretty much Ulysses, "THE BEAR AND THE BULL"
Praise in shadows wishes he was as half as entertaining as Ulysses
Even if you don't like his dialogue Ulysses never shutting up just makes you more eager to finally shut him up
This guy never shutting up just makes you feel gross
@@maritofuentes4690 At least Ulysses sounds somewhat cool with his monologue
@@daiymohermitaurenjoyer9160 oh yeah, I love Ulysses
My point was, that even if you don't like him at least you get to shut him up
@@maritofuentes4690 yeah also a funny thing, wasn't he meant to be a companion, but he talked so much they couldn't fit iit all
I'm a leftist but I lean more towards enforcing gun safety over banning guns. I grew up in rural Texas and I honestly hate a lot of conservative politics and politicians. But I also know that just because someone enjoys target practice and mudding doesn't make them hateful. I definitely have issues with different leftists for their beliefs too. Like there is a backlash against openly expressing sexuality by some leftists because they view it as inherently exploitative or sexist. I just think people are often more complicated than our ultra simplified political system paints us as.
I think it's wrong in general that some leftist (and again I say some becuase it's really just extreme ones like the loser in the video) who go about preaching how the other spectrum is wrong and make wild generalizations strictly speaking on the politics of left vs right it boils down to the priority of the poor versus the priority of the economy I think both debating and competing against one another is in a controlled situation healthy for our political system as both are important but when people make politics Essentially their entire personality like this guy it becomes an issue where a disagreement in politics is an attack on his personality which isn't the case (and both sides do it) completely forgetting the politicians you're getting mad over don't really give one about you and will pass whatever corporation payed them higher regardless of affiliation (left or right)
Cool story?
Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
What is mudding exactly? Like just driving around in mud?
@@CoperliteConsumerok but felons aren’t allowed to own guns, you can’t own a gun if you’re committed to a mental institution or have a documented history of self harm.. so clearly there’s exceptions.
@@rosenrot234youre actually exactly right
nothing says “i’m punk & counter culture!” like towing the most cookie cutter, mainstream lefty line on literally every topic imaginable.
Right? 😂
Using "interacted positively" unironically is insane. Like, bro, isn't that how you should interact with people by default? Are we supposed to interact negatively? That doesn't seem productive.
@@zogwort1522 You have some weird morals buddy
@@zogwort1522 How is that morally correct? I would argue it's immoral
Yes! You should be magnanimous with people until they show themselves to be malicious
@@zogwort1522
So...
Everyone deserves to get kicked in the teeth?
You should get licensing to distribute firearms and customize them to look like your candy and sell them LEGALLY OF COURSE
16:40 Imagine if he'd been like "a candy-obsessed content creator, Oompaville"
He’s forcing diabetes upon his viewers! Absolutely diabolical!
Contributing to the fascist sugar patriarchy
Mr Ballen is the most wholesome dude. You never would have thought he was a Navy Seal. Seriously the sweetest guy on RUclips and in person
You just reminded me that I haven’t watched a Mr Ballen video in months 🏃♂️ 💨
nobody better come for mr ballen with those bad ipos takes!
for real, i was confused when i heard that mr ballen was catching strays
I dunno... Mr. Ballen has approved of doing terrible things to the Like Button. Sounds like a solid case to de-platform him, if you ask me.
I love it when your dogs bark when you get a bit excited/louder/mad. I miss my deceased doggy. 😞
The best little hype men : ) condolences
yep. you had the exact correct reaction. "that's where i'm done." people in Appalachia are so sweet. I miss Virginia