(13th) Fixing and Replacing the complete brake system on this Abandoned 1948 Ford F5 Bus! Part 2!
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2021
- This is part 2 video on replacing the complete brake system on this 1948 Ford F5 short bus we found abandoned in the forest! In this series we are reviving this bus and getting it ready to drive it back to the old Stafford Baptist Church for a reunion!
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So for that hydrovac brake assembly, you're missing all of the replacement piston seals/o-rings for inside of it. Remove the band clamp on the vacuum chamber, (the part of it that looks like a vacuum booster) inside you will see a diaphragm that is the size of that vacuum chamber. Remove the center nut/bolt on that diaphragm carefully as there is low/moderate spring tension behind it. Once unbolted, remove the diaphragm assembly. Remove the three bolts that bolt the hydraulic side of the assembly to the large inner section/vacuum chamber half dome, remove the hydraulic assembly. Once removed, if you look at the shaft that originally had a nut on it holding the big diaphragm in place, there is a snap ring at the base of the hydraulic side. Remove that snap ring and then you can pull that whole rod/piston assembly out. The side cover that you said you don't have a gasket for is called a vacuum poppet valve. It holds the brakes applied once you step on them. So basically if you step on the brakes hard to come to a stop and then slightly reduce your braking pressure while stopped, the poppet valve keeps the brakes applied until you fully release the brake pedal. If you unbolt that smaller cover plate, (the one that has the hose going from it, into the large vacuum chamber) you will find a check valve in that cover and an additional diaphragm with another seal on it. These internal seals are all simple o-ring seals, so if the diaphragms are in good shape, you should be able to rebuild the unit with some research on the seal sizes and whatnot
Wow Thanks Eric! Some Great information! I will contact Chuck's Trucks LLC and see if he has the right kit. I really appreciate the info on how to do it. Thanks Eric!
@@CountryBoyGasGarage No problem bud, I'm glad to see you're getting the bus back together and on the road. I've watched every video of it and I'm looking forward to the next! 👍Hopefully we'll get a video of you tearing into that brake booster! 😉
@@CountryBoyGasGarage Also go to Orielys and get you a roll of gasket! That way you can make your own
@@CountryBoyGasGarage Hey, I just ran into having to figure something out with a hydrovac on a 53 GMC truck myself.... First, an original manual for the bus will have all the expanded diagrams for the booster and the rebuild procedures. This is priceless when having to mess with these old brakes. You can get electronic Ford manual for the year from Forel publishing for $20.
Then, if you have money for a new booster (and you really need it if you plan to take the bus on the road), you can check out Fleet products ltd from Canada. They quoted me around $360 with shipping from Canada.
For various brake parts, check out Alretta truck parts from MA. The guy there has a ton of old nos parts and probably knows everything there is to know about them. But he might be a pain in the neck to talk to, so prepare the vin number and all the parts numbers you need.
Finally, it seems to be common knowledge that the you cannot get rebuild kits for these boosters, but this is not exactly true. The other day I found Harmon Classic Brakes from GA and they do sell many different kits. They quoted me $260 for kit for my Bendix unit, without shipping or tax.
Hope this helps!
@@ap1687 Thanks! Yes this does help! Great information and thanks for sharing. I'll check them out!
This man is seriously underappreciated
If I were a rich man I'd build you a shop so that you could work on your vehicles any time, regardless of the weather. But, I guess you'll have to do the best you can with what you've got - for now. I appreciate you brother! Thanks for keeping us up to date on the progress on the bus.
Hey Thanks Robert!
Came here for the soft spoken CB,stayed for the best music on a yt channel.
Isn't it so cool that there are ppl. watching who can then provide such great info.,knowledge and links to supply houses,manuals etc; for such antique equipment?
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I bought a jump box last in the spring. Invaluable tool. No more waiting fir someone to come give me a jump. I love mine. Enjoy!
Nice! 👍
I do love me a fresh spread of parts, very nice!
Gotta love those Craftsman ratchets & sockets. Have the same ones for over 30 years. Good job and stay safe.
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I still really love your old school bus.
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Patience is the greatest blessing.!
Everything will be fine.!
Thank You!
The atmospheric river is turning it into mud up here as well my friend!
Work has stalled on any bus project!
Yeah that's right!
Terrific old bus - don't give up. It will all be worth it.
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It is impressive that the 1948 bus, is being fixed, so it can go back on the road,awesome job,👍👌☝️👏🏼
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Outstanding work ethic, slow and steady my man!
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Hey Country Boy. Yea, now that you have her running, you now have to get her to stop. Thanks for sharing.
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I had a 74 F600 box truck that had a hydro vac system that looked exactly like that one. Maybe you can cross reference from different Ford truck. Your doing a great job with that old bus great find.
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I'm working on brakes on a 62 Chevy dump truck, and the booster on it looks like that one also.
I love the color on the interior of the bus.
Me Too!
I understand being at the mercy of Mother Nature ( no garage, concrete drive), but shows character when you are still doing what you do. Keep up the great work bro!!!
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Oh snap! Another Oregonian here. Salem dweller here. Hope to see this driving around again sometime!
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Watched all 13 episodes, might have even learned a thing or two. Great videos.
Hey Thanks! More videos soon! 👍
She's really coming along! I've been watching since you started on this adventure.
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You've got my attention! Can't wait to see where this project goes 🇺🇸
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You did a great job repacking the bearings and replacing the seals. I would have done the same. If the bearings are lubricated by the differential fluid I would also replace the differential fluid. If it is as nasty as the trans fluid you drained during the clutch replacement it is an inexpensive procedure that will pay off in time knowing you have fresh, clean fluid on your new seals and clean bearings.
Hello Country Boy Gas Garage, The brake booster drum or vacuum servo unit on the bus will probably have a very large diaphragm "boot" and various seals, plus replaceable parts that hold everything together inside the drum. Thank you for posting the videos of your excellent work. Kind regards Lionel
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Have a neighbor who has a 1950 f6 and I located the diaphragm for the booster via ebay. Nos ford. Might give that a shot.
Not sure about that brake booster assembly myself but I think Eric explained it very well. As for the brakes themselves, I think Wilwood makes a complete disc brake system upgrade for that generation 1940s body style Ford Bus/Truck. Not sure if that's the route you plan to go with this bus but from what I've been told by people who have done this upgrade the braking quality is superb.
When you get it road worthy. Just a backwoods Florida pawpaw here I would deliver the child to school in that beautiful bus.
Just might do it! 😁
I really like these schoolbus series!!
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Your channel is great! Hope lots of folks join!
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Wow your doing a great job. Those rims turned out beautiful. Can’t wait to see them with a new coat of school bus yellow
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Properly, they are supposed to be painted black. On a school bus, bumpers and wheels are almost always black.
Back then the wheels were yellow as you saw when you found the bus. It’s your call on how you want to paint them
@@bryancooper2699 , that's why I said almost. There are always exceptions. However, even back then the wheels were usually black. I have a 47 Chevy bus and that's the way it was. Also, I've seen a lot of pictures of old buses, and they were that way.
Of course, he can paint them how he wants. It's his bus. I'm just providing info and suggestions, not dictating.
Not saying as to be dictating. Budd wheels and Dayton wheels were all different colors pending on customer wants or even law requirements. I would Like to see a photo of your historic bus
Well, I'm all caught up on the previous episodes, so I'm looking forward to what is next. Your videos are excellent.
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I am sure the church bus would fit in your old greenhouse. And like you said just put some tarps on it or even the heavy clear plastic I think its 30 mil for the green houses plastic I cannot remember but it is some tough stuff and when your done you can park it in there or use it for a green house or both depending on the time of the year. yep you are a good mechanic too. Keep up the hard work you got it going your way excepting the weather.
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You got so unbelievably lucky, that you found that tire shop!
In Boise, there is absolutely nobody that will touch a split rim.
We had to buy six single piece delivery truck wheels, from off a Dodge, before we could finish our brake and wheel jobs.
Oh by the way,...we don't have a garage either.
Rick ( my husband) is restoring this using only a 720 solar generator, a handful of hand tools,...and me.
Tee hee,...I love my coveralls!
As for turning your greenhouse into a bus repair shelter…..
If I were you I’d look into getting a mat off the biggest trampoline that someone is giving away and put that over and maybe under the tarp to add strength as the tarp itself is usually not very wind resistant.
Maybe a used highway advertising bulletin board as these are much stronger material although more expensive.
On the working in elements part a box of "Industrial Visqueen"
(Heavy mill sheet plastic) says you have a tent anywhere !!!
A thin cardboard box an a spoon builds most gaskets !!!
Nice work sir!!!!
Thank You Very Much! 😊
I am loving this bus build series. many many years of working on fleet vehicles.
Great video look forward to seeing this done
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Love that buss
Good video good project I like your shelter idea the wheels look good looking forward to the rest of the project I'll be watching when you post one
Hey Thanks John! Did you watch the videos where I got it running in the forest and drove it out?
@@CountryBoyGasGarage Yes Sir
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That greenhouse garage is going to be really helpful if it works out!
I hope so!
@@CountryBoyGasGarage it will!
Great job, great progress, keep it up. Rome was not built in a day.
That's right! Hey Thanks James!
Love that BUS 😁😁😁💟💟💟
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I think you have the best channel out they say hello to the family for me big supper fan
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I live in Texas and you might give a place called "Austin Brake and Clutch " a shout they've always been very helpful to me in the past and they may be able to help with that brake booster. Good luck bro
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Eric Smith is spot on. Keep the videos coming. We appreciate them all!
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A huge undertaking comes one step at a time, nice progress!
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Cant wait till you road trip it.
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Rainy day break , can't wait to see the next on the old bus. .
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Excellent job 👍 looking forward to seeing those rims painted and back on the bus! Best to you and yours
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Breaks - I would try a truck shop for the booster parts, NAPA ?, Ford parts company in Florida do not remember the company name of what years they served. Keep at it, God speed on getting a temp canopy going on this old girl ... maybe a bit of wood heat too ... might be a long cold winter.
amazing work
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need a big tarp or a big tent to cover ,the bus. then can work on the bus,when it rains.looks good so far .
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Nice job on the rebuild so far. That plan for a covered work space sounds good. Will keep you dry at least. Be safe and stay well.
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Love the old bus great work on it was closer I come give u a hand on making u shed for it
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@@CountryBoyGasGarage there a guy on here that Rebuilds them have to search booster rebuild he pop up I had same problem with 76 f100 I'm working on can't remember his name think he was in calf
I’m sure if you check Hemings there will be someone that does them. Great to see another video on the bus. 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺
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Great jobb 👍
Greatings from Sweden 😉
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Good show bud! Show em how ya can get things done with what ya got!
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Great video mate..love watching
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Good Job 👍
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Darn rain! I wanna see this bus ripping again. Love the content, keep it up brother :)
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These are the same booster units they used in the early model Thunderbird's !
You sure know to work the brakes on this thing!
They are gonna love this old rig when it comes chuggin' up the road to the church! LOL
Thanx for a great vid buddy!
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Nothing easy on this bus! I sure enjoy watching how you go about re furbishing this old bus! Wondering how the baby, your wife and girl are? Dagum weather always gets in the way, go figure! I'm watching cause you are entertaining and I like to tinker too! 🚃 👍 👋
Hey Thanks! They are doing Great! I appreciate That! 👍
Keep up the good work, love your content. Watching your videos from Qc, Can.
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I bought one of those Audew battery chargers, charged it up, and put it in my car a year ago. I've checked it a few times and it's still holding a charge at 100%. I haven't had to use it so far but looks like a quality item.
It worked great
Right on my man! Yep I think you are right about needing the old green house. Love that little Jump Box…Awesome job!
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The jump units work , first one I bought was 15000 mah which is good the ones after that when to 18000 mah and handles every thing cars , pickups , small diesel tractors and can be charged either from a vehicle or plug in.
Just make sure you discharge and recharge it every 3 months to keep it on proper shape , have 5 units , only problem was a theft of one pack .
Will be adding more as the fleet grows , great to be self recovery able .
I want to get the same sort of thing in terms of a portable garage, either a heavy tent garage like your tarps or greenhouse or a carport kit with metal roofing that is easy to unscrew, disassemble and relocate. I might even bring such a garage with me out to secular Oregon from Baptist North Carolina, in an old school bus, though my bus has no title, engine or trans, so I might just have to buy another one with a title.
Enjoyed watching! Can't wait till the next one!
Too bad nobody rebuilds those in your area. Hydrovac boosters were used on big trucks like that for many years until they went to air brakes on the 1.5 ton and 2 ton trucks. I've seen them on trucks into the late 1970's. We had a 1966 International Loadstar 1600 with one. Either one of the seals or the chamber diaphragm went bad because over winter (it was a grain hauler used for grain harvest) it would lose brake fluid at the master cylinder. Did that about 3 years in a row. All that fluid ended up on the vacuum side of the chamber. I think that's how we figured out it was leaking - the engine was getting brake fluid in it from the vacuum line. BTW, the grease in the bearings of that rear axle should be fine. The gear oil will mix with it and melt it away. Good luck and looking forward to more vids.
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Just amazing how that bus cleaned up
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That's cool bro
I am from Oregon to. Cool.
Cool! Where?
Hey there is nothing wrong with a canvas garage aka shop in a box. Check out one of your fellow Oregon residents Rick at Classic Truck Rescue I have been watching him for several years and he can show you his shop in a box lol enjoy your videos look forward to more
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You deserve more credit
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@@CountryBoyGasGarage no problem
Never give up.
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Thanks again for the great video
I just can't seem to get enough of this bus
Best channel on RUclips by far👍👍
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I can say I understand some of the pearls you're going through due to me having a large international school bus i'm having to work on brakes. axle seals etc.
This is my first Bus. Alot bigger then what I'm use to...lol
Good video brother, I feel ya on working in the elements lol
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You’ve come a long way with the bus. It will be nice to see it done!
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Can’t wait man
I received my shirts (2) and my Bus Hoodie this week! Awesome quality and very comfortable! Keep up the quality content and quality merchandise!
Hey Thanks Ben! I really appreciate that! I will have some designs coming soon! Take care! ✌🏽
Good. Job
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Great job on the brakes man I am enjoying the bus videos it's interesting watching it come from being buried in the weeds to what it will be eventually keep the great videos coming enjoying this one very much 👍
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awesome video great work man
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Way to go keep up the awesome job on the bus!
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Thank you as always for a great video. That Ole Girl is turning out beautiful. Cheers from Florida🍻
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I use a 4x8 sheet of foam insulation so I'm not laying on snow or wet ground but you have a wood pallet that's close
Gotta do what we gotta do!
Hello from new jersey ! love your channel.i use My bus mug almost everyday and wear My hoodie regularly. If you decide to rebuild the hydro vac unit I sent mine to the power brake exchange they did both master cylinder and hydro vac unit. My fire truck has a slightly different unit but is essentially the same as mine.wish I still had the factory service manual but it went with the truck I would have sent it to you as I no longer need it now.here in NJ it's not legal to rebuild your own master cylinder or hydro vac unit.keep up the good work my friend !
Awesome! Hey Thanks! That's crazy you can't rebuild your own stuff.
I have a tip for you next time you're struggling with a screw the base of the plastic handle on your screwdriver might be able to take a wrench for extra leverage depending on the screwdriver also like cheap Dollar store cans of Easy-Off oven degreaser work really well
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@@CountryBoyGasGarage no problem (sorry for the late reply)
Yes, PB lube!
The best!
Let’s do it brother!!!
Beauty 💐
Good work brother 👊🏾 lets go !
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Go to your local salvage yard and pick up a firewall mounted vacuum brake booster and master cylinder from a later model pickup
Wont work. A hidro bust off a 99/03 f350 will.
A friend of mine has a ww2 military Ford GTB it has the same breaks set up
Gotta look into getting one of those jumpers, seems to work pretty nice. If that battery in your truck is 3-4 years old definitely get it replaced, not gonna be fun in an Oregon winter
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Pretty sure that the airport fuel truck I used to drive when I was in college (1991) had a hydrovac booster. It was a 1968 F-700 chassis with a single walled 1000 gallon gasoline tanker (it was the Avgas truck). When you hit the brakes, you could hear vacuum sounds, and the brakes were hydraulic.
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Great video brother!
Man those are some big brake shoes. Hopefully the rain will give you a break so you can get back at it.
Good luck man👍
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I have seen those types of brake boosters on several old trucks when I was growing up , big ford flatbed and dump trucks , and also on International trucks you can actually mount that unit in any available location, and route your lines and hoses to it . It serves as the proportioning valve and the vacuum booster all in one . just make sure you get the lines hooked up correctly .. and you should put it back on and absolutely not run without it.. but if needed you could upgrade to a more modern set up that all mounts to the firewall. something from the early 1970s would probably be a direct bolt up. One of my cousin's that is in his 80s knows a lot about big old ford trucks trucks, from using on his farm , so the next I talk to him Im going to ask and see what he knows about that set up . Good luck with the project , it's looking good. Tim from Wisconsin .
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Geat work but cut yourself a break and move the hoops house with tarps over the bus. You will get a bunch of advice how to rebuild the booster. Lucky to have great sponsors for parts. I liked the battery booster mutli use option.
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