He would have been exactly like Edward Norton’s Hulk only Red skin, Black swush hair, yellow or red glowing eyes and halted ripped black dress suit pants black nail’s
Even though we never got the chance to see William Hurt become Red-Hulk, he will always be the original General Ross and "The Incredible Red-Hulk" in our hearts and minds Ladies and Gentlemen of social media and fans of The MCU
Given that Tony Stark and half of the Avengers actually agreed to the Sokovia Accords... either he did but no one cared or remembered, or he didn't and he really should have.
Ross is responsible for creating the Abomination, Hulk, and The Leader. Surprised Ross isn’t in prison for doing this damage he created, especially since what he was doing was not legal.
MCU doesn't even care about Ross and Banner's nemesis relationship anymore. They just put Ross right there and have zero conversations with Banner. They always like to pretend Incredible Hulk never happened, but they somehow feel fans would just be happy to see Ross focuses on other heroes rather than Hulk.
Universal should re-edit this movie and include all or most of these deleted scenes. They give the movie a lot more depth. BUT, considering General Ross' desire to exploit Dr. Banner would have deep implications regarding his role as Secretary of State.
If Bruce Banner did go over General Ross' head and told General Greller his side of the story, would Greller be reasonable and let Bruce try to cure himself of becoming the Hulk so that he can be with General ross' daughter Betty?
Well if anyone had engineered the ability to morph from being an average 6 foot tall 180 lb man to a beast standing 10-11 feet tall weighing 1500 lbs and have the strength to tear a full sized car in half with just a couple of hard punches... general greller would likely do one of two things... He would want Bruce to isolate whatever powers the transformation and try to tame it down possibly.
Metaphorically speaking hunting down Incredible Hulk he's like hunting a great white whale and Thaddeus Ross is Captain Ahab every time he throws at Harpoon at that whale he's going to miss and then one day he will strike and it will cost him his life and the lives of his crew so watch your ass General Thaddeus Ross because it one day that great green Hulk the one day kill you maybe not physically but emotionally and mentally
That's a very interesting viewpoint of ross and the hulk. I have a rather different viewpoint of comparison. To me general ross is in some many ways like Custer. While Custer was already a decorated soldier before becoming an Indian fighter, Ross was also a decorated soldier and high ranking officer with the Congressional medal of honor for fighting in Vietnam. But like Custer before him, that simply was not enough and while Custer decided to fight against the Sioux and the Cheyenne to gain further glory for himself, Ross decided to attempt to recreate the super soldier serum to for the same purpose. And he did so by using deceit to use bruce banner to achieve that. But that attempt result in creating the hulk and causing the death and injuries of several people including his daughter Betty. And instead of putting a stop to it, Ross's sought to exploit hulk's power without regard of what happened or any cost or morality, just as Custer charged down the little big horn without regard for his men's lives. Both examples of men allowing their desire for glory to consuming them,forsaking fairness and honor in the pursuit of glory. That's just my opinion but your viewpoint was still interesting.
@@Anonymous-zd1ow why thank you. I also think that if Thaddeus Ross kills the Hulk then remember he's going to be on a one-way ticket to hell because if the Hulk dies and Ross's responsible or somebody else kills the Hulk to obey orders of Thaddeus Ross then both of them are on a one-way ticket to hell because the blood of the Hulk will be on their hands forever and it will be on them for all eternity
When General greller I said do anything out of that super soldier program get out something tells me and I mean this something tells me that General Ross is secretly working for the enemy and that one Hydra because Hydra may have created the super soldier known as the Winter Soldier well formerly known as the Winter Soldier but they also created a team of winter soldiers and Ross thinks that if they create super soldier still have a chance to defeat larger enemies we're not just talking about Warlords or dictators or even terrorist he's talking about hunting down super power individuals so we all know for a fact that General Thaddeus Ross says that he is trying to protect this country when truthfully he just wants to see all the good people go away while he stands tall above it all
Sounds like a good theory, it may work considering he may become the red hulk and this theory if proven canon could lead towards ross becoming a villian or an anti hero.
Jeez, and I thought Ross was a big enough asshole as he was in the final cut of the movie. This is why the 2003 Ross is my favorite version of the character, because that guy actually gave a shit about the consequences of his decisions, and was genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of the people under his command as well as his daughter. The MCU Ross is just a fucking asshole. And not once does he EVER get comeuppance for the death and destruction he caused by deliberately antagonizing Banner when he was simply trying to cure himself. Someone please tell me that Ross was turned into dust when Thanos snapped his fingers at the end of Infinity War.
I have read some the comments here comparing Ross's hunt for banner/hulk to captain Ahab's hunt for the white whale Moby dick. But I have a different comparison. That is with George Armstrong Custer. Let me explain why. There is this deleted scene from the incredible hulk titled "nature's mystery" where Ross was talking to the major about the hulk after the battle at the university and why he wants the hulks power. He sees it as a way to make his mark on history and thus why he has committed many unethical and downright immoral deeds to banner to get it. And that was regardless of the fact that first time hulk came into being resulted in the injury his daughter Betty. A high ranking officer decorated with a medal of honor and yet it simply wasn't enough. Custer was pretty much the same. He was decorated for valor for his role in the battle of Gettysburg yet it wasn't enough for him, which was why he became an Indian fighter, just to gain further glory and possibly even run for president. He put those aspirations above the lives of his own troops and in the end, he and his men paid the ultimate price for it at the little big horn. The comparison between Ross and Custer is that both men ,despite both being decorated soldiers, simply wanted more without regard for morality or honor or for lives lost because of their actions.
2:14 "Are you telling me ANOTHER ONE of your super-soldier experiments has gone haywire?" What do you mean, "another one?" How many super-soldier experiments WERE there? There was Captain America, Banner, and who else? I'm not sure he'd describe Cap as "gone haywire." So did they have to put down some of Ross's previous Super-Soldiers? This could be retconned to be Isaiah Bradley, I guess. But this raises the question about how close Ross was getting to a working Super-Soldier Serum.
Greller: What is beneath your feet? Ross: Sand? Blonsky: Sacred ground, Doctore. Watered with the tears of blood. Greller: *Your* tears! *Your* blood! Your *pathetic* lives forged into something of worth. Listen! Learn! And, perhaps, live - As *Gladiators*!
@@mr.scarlo2234 this was ultron's speech I never thought robots essential they're crude & unspeakable plain but maybe a glimmer of potential if allied to my vision & brains
@@yemi1776 he two times wounded I mean 1st time wounded by Ultron he throw him down by putting his hand on ross' hands threw him into the animals ross' leg gets broken 2nd time vulture stabs him & threw him into garbage truck
0:43 red hulk easter egg. And when abomination said "green or grey" he is talking about hulks first transformation or joe fixit.
All I know is Thaddeus Ross will never win because you can never defeat what's saved the universe from a mad Titan
Wow I never knew that!!
I wanted General or Secretary Ross to become the Red Hulk in the MCU or in another Hulk movie. It's a shame we didn't see it
Ivan Gomez it could still happen
@@abolisher It's a shame that We won't see Red Hulk vs The Incredible Hulk. Only She-Hulk can be only a match for him.
RIP William Hurt.
He’s not dead man
He could play a real SOB. Apparently, he was quite the SOB in real life too!
@@toddsalkowski448You're clearly delusional
2:24 Best part is that they both are the "wrong hands" to use gamma bio tech... Red Hulk and Abomination
It's like the Oxygen Destroyer. Wrong hands are irrelevant because there are no "Right hands" either.
The Leader being another one.
@Luke Starkiller no Red Hulk is gone
@@editingman95 Not anymore.
General Greller: This is madness!!
General Ross: *Madness?*
This is SPARTA!!!
Lmao
@@jaderounderRemember when Hulk Sparta kicked Blonsky in one scene?
Based on the deleted scenes, Incredible Hulk IS the most dark ans gritty MCU movie
The first iron man has some dark moments too
Umm have you seen Winter Soldier?
Gabe Stein only moments
@@MrRaxicorniopholus Wow. One movie out of 23.
@@MrRaxicorniopholusonly thing dark about winter soldier is Bucky's hair
Shame another Hulk movie wasn't made before Thor Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame. William Hurt would have been a great Red Hulk. Am I right?
Disney doesn't know how to make super heroes movies...
@@jordantreyofficial at least not hulk movies.
Rip William Hurt
He would have been exactly like Edward Norton’s Hulk only Red skin, Black swush hair, yellow or red glowing eyes and halted ripped black dress suit pants black nail’s
Even though we never got the chance to see William Hurt become Red-Hulk, he will always be the original General Ross and "The Incredible Red-Hulk" in our hearts and minds Ladies and Gentlemen of social media and fans of The MCU
0:43 he wants to become the red hulk
Wow I would've never known
@Luke Starkiller not anymore sadly
You have to wonder if Bruce ever told the Avengers what Ross was like given their meeting with him in Civil War
Given that Tony Stark and half of the Avengers actually agreed to the Sokovia Accords... either he did but no one cared or remembered, or he didn't and he really should have.
@@BioGoji-zm5ph Or marvel just didn't care about mcu lore
Ross is responsible for creating the Abomination, Hulk, and The Leader. Surprised Ross isn’t in prison for doing this damage he created, especially since what he was doing was not legal.
MCU doesn't even care about Ross and Banner's nemesis relationship anymore. They just put Ross right there and have zero conversations with Banner. They always like to pretend Incredible Hulk never happened, but they somehow feel fans would just be happy to see Ross focuses on other heroes rather than Hulk.
@@hmw4166 thats cuz banner wasnt present on earth
Universal should re-edit this movie and include all or most of these deleted scenes. They give the movie a lot more depth.
BUT, considering General Ross' desire to exploit Dr. Banner would have deep implications regarding his role as Secretary of State.
They’ve got no incentive to, hell anyone can do it themselves on their computer. I’ve watched a few films that were reedited by fans.
Shame this kinda tone didn't stay. I kinda miss it.
You and me both bro!
GodDAMNIT I WANT.... WHAT'S INSIDAHIM!
Rusty Myers.
I hope to God that they make him the red hulk because he seems so anxious to do it
;( RIP William Hurt
Too late now
Instead we got overrated Harrison Ford
If Bruce Banner did go over General Ross' head and told General Greller his side of the story, would Greller be reasonable and let Bruce try to cure himself of becoming the Hulk so that he can be with General ross' daughter Betty?
Well if anyone had engineered the ability to morph from being an average 6 foot tall 180 lb man to a beast standing 10-11 feet tall weighing 1500 lbs and have the strength to tear a full sized car in half with just a couple of hard punches...
general greller would likely do one of two things...
He would want Bruce to isolate whatever powers the transformation and try to tame it down possibly.
Metaphorically speaking hunting down Incredible Hulk he's like hunting a great white whale and Thaddeus Ross is Captain Ahab every time he throws at Harpoon at that whale he's going to miss and then one day he will strike and it will cost him his life and the lives of his crew so watch your ass General Thaddeus Ross because it one day that great green Hulk the one day kill you maybe not physically but emotionally and mentally
That is a very interesting insight into his character
That's a very interesting viewpoint of ross and the hulk. I have a rather different viewpoint of comparison. To me general ross is in some many ways like Custer. While Custer was already a decorated soldier before becoming an Indian fighter, Ross was also a decorated soldier and high ranking officer with the Congressional medal of honor for fighting in Vietnam. But like Custer before him, that simply was not enough and while Custer decided to fight against the Sioux and the Cheyenne to gain further glory for himself, Ross decided to attempt to recreate the super soldier serum to for the same purpose. And he did so by using deceit to use bruce banner to achieve that. But that attempt result in creating the hulk and causing the death and injuries of several people including his daughter Betty. And instead of putting a stop to it, Ross's sought to exploit hulk's power without regard of what happened or any cost or morality, just as Custer charged down the little big horn without regard for his men's lives. Both examples of men allowing their desire for glory to consuming them,forsaking fairness and honor in the pursuit of glory. That's just my opinion but your viewpoint was still interesting.
@@Anonymous-zd1ow why thank you. I also think that if Thaddeus Ross kills the Hulk then remember he's going to be on a one-way ticket to hell because if the Hulk dies and Ross's responsible or somebody else kills the Hulk to obey orders of Thaddeus Ross then both of them are on a one-way ticket to hell because the blood of the Hulk will be on their hands forever and it will be on them for all eternity
William Hurt as President "Thunderbolt" Ross would have been so cool to see. Shame we couldn't get that before he passed.
Goddamn it!!!!!!!! What I want? What's inside of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is that Peter Mensah from 300 playing the general?
Yes!
When General greller I said do anything out of that super soldier program get out something tells me and I mean this something tells me that General Ross is secretly working for the enemy and that one Hydra because Hydra may have created the super soldier known as the Winter Soldier well formerly known as the Winter Soldier but they also created a team of winter soldiers and Ross thinks that if they create super soldier still have a chance to defeat larger enemies we're not just talking about Warlords or dictators or even terrorist he's talking about hunting down super power individuals so we all know for a fact that General Thaddeus Ross says that he is trying to protect this country when truthfully he just wants to see all the good people go away while he stands tall above it all
Sounds like a good theory, it may work considering he may become the red hulk and this theory if proven canon could lead towards ross becoming a villian or an anti hero.
Looking at how Faclon and Winter Soldier went it could have been something on those lines
Jeez, and I thought Ross was a big enough asshole as he was in the final cut of the movie. This is why the 2003 Ross is my favorite version of the character, because that guy actually gave a shit about the consequences of his decisions, and was genuinely concerned for the wellbeing of the people under his command as well as his daughter. The MCU Ross is just a fucking asshole. And not once does he EVER get comeuppance for the death and destruction he caused by deliberately antagonizing Banner when he was simply trying to cure himself.
Someone please tell me that Ross was turned into dust when Thanos snapped his fingers at the end of Infinity War.
1:31 only shot that remained in the film for no reason.
Harrison Ford will never be as good as William Hurt, but people will default to saying Ford is better because he's Harrison Ford.
R.I.P. William Hurt
Edward Norton is the best hulk and the best bruce banner ever in history the mcu doesn't know what he lost
Yeahhhh I don’t mind Ruffalo but wish Norton kept the role. I think it was because he’s extremely hard to work with.
Man😢William no body can truly replace you as the true Thunderbolt Ross of the MCU 😔🙏🪦✊…except maybe Sam Elliot
Sam Elliot is not even close.
Yes
This Hulk is 10 ft tall 1,500 pounds and green.
I didn’t realise that was Peter Mensah playing General Geller until after I watched Spartacus. He’s one of my favourite actors
Nick Fury would have shut down the Hulk Busters.
Speaking of Fury, The Incredible Hulk is the only Phase 1 film without him (however his name is mentioned).
0:43 I see why it got deleted because Ross isn’t usually seen acting like that throughout the entire movie.
Wish they kept this one
More Peter Mensah is always a good thing.
Yes General Greller, his experiment on Bruce Banner did go haywire.
LMAO when don't science experiments like this go wrong?
I have read some the comments here comparing Ross's hunt for banner/hulk to captain Ahab's hunt for the white whale Moby dick. But I have a different comparison. That is with George Armstrong Custer. Let me explain why. There is this deleted scene from the incredible hulk titled "nature's mystery" where Ross was talking to the major about the hulk after the battle at the university and why he wants the hulks power. He sees it as a way to make his mark on history and thus why he has committed many unethical and downright immoral deeds to banner to get it. And that was regardless of the fact that first time hulk came into being resulted in the injury his daughter Betty. A high ranking officer decorated with a medal of honor and yet it simply wasn't enough. Custer was pretty much the same. He was decorated for valor for his role in the battle of Gettysburg yet it wasn't enough for him, which was why he became an Indian fighter, just to gain further glory and possibly even run for president. He put those aspirations above the lives of his own troops and in the end, he and his men paid the ultimate price for it at the little big horn. The comparison between Ross and Custer is that both men ,despite both being decorated soldiers, simply wanted more without regard for morality or honor or for lives lost because of their actions.
Mags magazines, NOT CLIPS
2:14
"Are you telling me ANOTHER ONE of your super-soldier experiments has gone haywire?"
What do you mean, "another one?" How many super-soldier experiments WERE there? There was Captain America, Banner, and who else? I'm not sure he'd describe Cap as "gone haywire." So did they have to put down some of Ross's previous Super-Soldiers? This could be retconned to be Isaiah Bradley, I guess. But this raises the question about how close Ross was getting to a working Super-Soldier Serum.
Greller: What is beneath your feet? Ross: Sand? Blonsky: Sacred ground, Doctore. Watered with the tears of blood. Greller: *Your* tears! *Your* blood! Your *pathetic* lives forged into something of worth. Listen! Learn! And, perhaps, live - As *Gladiators*!
#realeasetheextendedcut
Mensah is such an underrated actor.
He should be in more things.
WHY THESE MOVIES RECORD SO WRONG 😭✌️
This scene is awesome because it totally sets Thunderbolt Ross up to be the red hulk.
Timeline event spoilers
General ross died in sokovia killed by Ultron
ielya tehrani, that’s Impossible as he was in both Civil War and Infinity War, which both take place after Age of Ultron.
@@mr.scarlo2234 no I mean during events after doctor strange he tried to save avengers
@@mr.scarlo2234 this was ultron's speech
I never thought robots essential they're crude & unspeakable plain but maybe a glimmer of potential if allied to my vision & brains
@@editingman95 no he did not he split the avengers apart and is even in endgame.
@@yemi1776 he two times wounded I mean
1st time wounded by Ultron he throw him down by putting his hand on ross' hands threw him into the animals ross' leg gets broken
2nd time vulture stabs him & threw him into garbage truck
The deleted scenes allways are the best.. basicaly...
I thought Blonsky was a Major not a Captain
2 bad they got the medals wrong!
All those dead bodies
That general is a chronicrom
De cuando hacían películas en serio
Rip
Ngl i prefer this general over the 2003 general
lo ubieran puesto en español
They deleted 2000.scenes from this movie..