Just wanted to say thanks for the podcast fellas. Glad I stumbled across it. I drive quite a bit for work and these podcasts make the drives more enjoyable
1:38:50 facts mars. Straight facts. This happens so much in sports, especially at the youth level. People already know who the best player is. But if someone steps up and “over achieves” they end up getting MVP, regardless if the best player was ballin too cuz they don’t expect that player to do that, but they expect the best player to do that day in day out. It almost happened in the ECF this year! Butler was doing his thing, Martin stepped up randomly and almost snatched that ECF MVP from Jimmy. Even tho Jimmy was ballin too and even more than Martin 😂 but it’s the fact we Expect that from Jimmy and don’t expect that from Martin
I think the panel doesn't really take into consideration that each of them have their own unique perspective bc of their own experiences with basketball. Some have played at a high level and some have been high level super fans and I mean that as no disrespect. Soo the perspective is going to be different at the end of the day. I think instead of getting upset at it, just understand the rational and reasoning behind each person's points are going to be completely different bc of it.
Exactly they judge players and games differently some use stats some use eye test other use both getting 8 different basketball perspectives which is cool
@@bobbylyht4123 my only knock is and I don’t mean disrespect by what I’m going to say but sometimes Low doesn’t understand the in’s & outs of basketball and it’s intricacies bc he’s never played nor coached at a high level. So he doesn’t understand metrics that are intangibles
Was going to super Chat this but this is either the twilight zone or a mommy in players choice history where Marz and low are in a heated discussion while at the same time Marz is on tickets side
1:06:51 Robert horry literally said in a interview Larry brown was running plays out of spurs playbook. He said that made it so much easier against Cleveland.
2:22:52 thats how they saved the game in the 80s and made basketball a beautiful sport. Both Larry Bird and Magic Johnson maximised their own talents but also helped maximising the abilities and talents of their teammates
@@connortimmons5397 Nicca, Bruce Wayne might be smoking too much weed because his parents died at age 8, but you a straight crack fiend for having Dirk over Hakeem lolol.
4:33 Yeah he went 41,8,6 in the 1993 finals. He was incredible in 1991 as well with 31, 11 and 7 with 2.8 steals and 1.4 blocks with 56% FG% and 50% from 3. Tim Duncan's 2003 finals performance deserves a mention
Too 5 Finals MVP’s is a GREAT question because the 5th one is so difficult. Obviously there’s Jordan in 93, Bron in 2013, Shaq in 2000, Duncan in 03. After those 4 the 5th one is so difficult because there D Wade in 06, there’s Hakeem in 95, there’s Giannis in 2020, Magic in ‘87, and Steph and Jokic the past two years have been insane too. Between those though I might have to go Giannis. Defensively he was unreal, he was unstoppable offensively and that 50 piece elimination game? Yeah. MJ LeBron Shaq Duncan Giannis Edit: I’m not camping for Superteams, I don’t like LeBron going to Miami-but Cleveland won 19 games when LeBron left. That team was terrible without him and he had a right to leave. I just think Bosh was OD for that team.
The slander against Jason Terry is crazy; he played great in that series and won them Games 4 and 6. In the 2011 Finals, he averaged 18 points, 3.5 assists, 2 rebounds, and 1.5 steals with a 60% true shooting percentage.
2015 was just the preface of what was to come. LeSPN was just getting started. If LeBron cant get it for losing, give it to the guy he dropped 35ppg on
1:17:24 Little known fact, while yes Chicago was on kobes list of teams to be traded to, so was the nash suns which sent him home 2 years in a row, and so were the san Antonio spurs with duncan. The only reason he refused the trade to Detroit was because too much of the championship core would be going to LA to trade for him. So yea he did want to go to stacked teams.
the way y’all were talking abt teams sharing thte basketball and how it looked beautiful really reminded me of the way ppl talk abt the Barcelona tiki taka teams
Low gets gets cooked and just starts gaslighting lmao. Moving the goal post, alleging he meant something he didn’t say, insulting people’s intelligence.
That whole argument at the end was nasty on both sides. Crazy semantics from both sides. Low definitely said win and not compete, he changed that up. Going by the strict definition of competing Marz and them were using Jokic and every player today has “more comp” than players who played before there was 30 teams but we just heard Jokic can’t be top X or Y for this whole week because he doesn’t have good enough “comp”.
21:47 if we went later Jordan years, I would go with 97 Jordan. He averaged 32,7 and 6 and the Flu Game was one of the clutch performance in NBA history
Ticket said there was more parody before Lebron went to the Heat. One can argue Boston Celtics becoming a Superteam played a part in Lebron going to Miami. Imagine if KG stays in Minnesota or goes to a team worse than the Celtics. Lebron may have stayed with the Cavs.
For the top 5 FMVPs I gotta go with Jordan in 93, Shaq in 2000, Kobe in 2009, Wade in 2006 and it's tie between 2016 Bron and 2022 Curry. 52:24 Ticket calling Domo names 😅 54:00 Marz & Domo bringing Ticket up on charges 😂🍿 54:30 Ticket continues calling Domo names 😂😂😂 54:52 Ticket proven not guilty LMAO😅 1:05:44 "So Chilltown you're a liar right and ima tell you why" LMAO I can't breathe 😂😂😂 1:14:54 Ticket calls Chill a clown 😅😅 1:15:00 Chills blood pressure going thru the roof😅😅 1:17:17 Ticket took the glasses off 🍿 1:44:31 Tickets right, how's LeBron so much better than Kobe, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan etc when he formed a Superteam then said they gon win 8 rings. Then, when the Heat loss to the Spurs he formed another Superteam in Cleveland and his fans make every single excuse for him.
It’s so funny how you all genuinely think that getting to the conference finals means you are competitive or have a chance for the chip😂. Wait so you all genuinely thought that the 2016 raptors were “competitive “ and actually had a chance to beat the Cavs and have a chance to the warriors? 😂
2016 Lebron HAS to be a top 5 all time finals performance. He led both teams in every statistical category. That means he was quite literally the best player on the floor in every aspect of the game, not just for his team, but for both teams. 29.7 points, 11.3 rebounds, 8.9 assists, 2.6 steals and 2.3 blocks. Coming back from 3-1 against a 73 win. What are we even talking about?
I love this show and love every single one of you guys including Low but he needed this cooking. I appreciate his knowledge of the game and his intelligence but he gives off know it all vibes all the time and it rubs me the wrong way. Glad to see Ticket and Marz team up and cook him in a debate.
Yo that start bench cut was nasty also. Melo clears Paul Pierce and Jimmy Butler. The disrespect is crazyyy. Melo is easily a better scorer and rebounder than both of those guys. He also beating them both in longevity as he played 19 years and was balling as a rookie and was still serviceable his latter years as well. I need to hear some more logic on picking those guys because everyone agreed too easily.
It’s hilarious because Low was wrong and knew he was wrong and started digging a hole and instead of admitting he was wrong he just kept digging and digging and digging 😂
Low was right imo about the competing vs competitive argument. By their logic every team that makes the playoffs technically competes for a championship but we understand theirs levels to contenders. But the rest of his argument was ass
Marz vs low 2-0. Marz cooked him on open gym about jokic and Giannis beat player in the world, now cooked him even harder today. Low is Jimmy, 0-2. 😂😂 low also got cooked by Dub on Luka better offensively than Jokic. 😂
1:23:22 no he should not. The Bulls were terrible offensively in the 96 finals. Go look at the shooting splits of Scottie Pippen, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, etc. Michael Jordan carried them offensively in that series even though he was playing with a calf injury that he never mentioned
2:56:45 Marz put the exclamation mark on LOW. And you see what LOW did? If this was Ticket or Bob speaking to LOW, LOW would demean them to the point of the insanity. LOW even demean Chltwn for no reason at all. And LOW would have demeaned Marz as well but since they have a lot of agreeable points, LOW did not insult Marz. But had Marz talked to LOW in the way that Bob or Ticket talked to LOW, LOW would have demeaned and ridiculed Marz and called him stupid. He is rude and brash for no reason
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Ticket with the face cam gotta stay. It makes his arguments more funny with his crazy eyes and the cigar 😂😂😂
LOW GOT COOKED
Marz u torched him🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥
not cooked, Low got that double batter fryer treatment. He was served extra crispy🤣🤣
That torching was on the same level as the torching of B smooth! That was legendary cookin’!
AGAIN
Deep fried 💪🏿
MARZ + TICKET = THE HOODIE BOYS
Ticket had the biggest smile on his face while Marz was cooking LOW 😭😭😭😭
Low got cooked 💀💀
Time stamp?
@@oh-turkeybird You need to see Ticket COOK LOW before to fully understand what we witnessed 2:38:30 😂 MARZ was at 2:48:07
They didn’t cook low Marz was trolling
Petition to get Marz his own debate show on this page!
Open gym ?
we need marz madness
@@Lefthandrightband 😂😂😂
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Marz Universe
Just wanted to say thanks for the podcast fellas. Glad I stumbled across it. I drive quite a bit for work and these podcasts make the drives more enjoyable
Low was certified ass cheeks today….he got sent to the Phantom zone
Offseason episodes are gonna be FIRE if they’re anything like this one 😭😭😭
Factss
“face down ass up” is a crazy statement 😂ts had me crying
insaneeeeeee😭
Marz and low arguing at the End is the funniest thing ever lol
Ticket and marz
Dynamic duo
2:49:39 this is where the video starts. Never heard Ron say f*cal them super chats.
MARZ DEEPFRIED LOW! MARZ AND TICKET NEW BEST DUO
This was legendary. The last 40 minutes off the show was history making
Everytime Ticket starts babbling about stacking the deck I automatically fast forward.
Dude literally makes excuses for MJ Kobe and KG stacking the deck but not bron and KD ridiculous hypocritical
same lol
@@churchhide mj and kobe never stacked the deck
@@JesusOrDestructionwhat do you call telling the front office to get the best rebounder and defender in the league
@@churchhide because MJ and Kobe never stacked the deck, they were just really great
Coach Malone wearing the "Put that in your pipe and smoke it" is legendary for the panel.
That all star argument was a half hour of my life that I will never get back. I’m not joking get a new host that can actually control the show
I apologize Chill for saying you was lying
1:38:50 facts mars. Straight facts. This happens so much in sports, especially at the youth level. People already know who the best player is. But if someone steps up and “over achieves” they end up getting MVP, regardless if the best player was ballin too cuz they don’t expect that player to do that, but they expect the best player to do that day in day out. It almost happened in the ECF this year! Butler was doing his thing, Martin stepped up randomly and almost snatched that ECF MVP from Jimmy. Even tho Jimmy was ballin too and even more than Martin 😂 but it’s the fact we Expect that from Jimmy and don’t expect that from Martin
Hell nah anyone who actually watched that series knows martin was objectively better
I think the panel doesn't really take into consideration that each of them have their own unique perspective bc of their own experiences with basketball. Some have played at a high level and some have been high level super fans and I mean that as no disrespect. Soo the perspective is going to be different at the end of the day. I think instead of getting upset at it, just understand the rational and reasoning behind each person's points are going to be completely different bc of it.
Exactly they judge players and games differently some use stats some use eye test other use both getting 8 different basketball perspectives which is cool
@@bobbylyht4123 my only knock is and I don’t mean disrespect by what I’m going to say but sometimes Low doesn’t understand the in’s & outs of basketball and it’s intricacies bc he’s never played nor coached at a high level. So he doesn’t understand metrics that are intangibles
@@In-theBonus Yeah he’s strictly a numbers stats sheet guy he be completely lost when it comes to intangibles
Low is so stubborn, he moved goal post and changed the definition of words. Toxic AF!
Salute to Marz man that was 🔥🔥😂
Was going to super Chat this but this is either the twilight zone or a mommy in players choice history where Marz and low are in a heated discussion while at the same time Marz is on tickets side
1:06:51 Robert horry literally said in a interview Larry brown was running plays out of spurs playbook. He said that made it so much easier against Cleveland.
It was Mike brown
@@anthony2b173 yeah my bad
Yo chill saying “this dude over here tearing up shit” is hilarious
It was funny when ticket and chill were going at it and ticket took off his glasses 😂😂
This has been a bad week for Low. Cuh been getting cooked 🤣
Facts you know it's bad when ticket and marz teaming up 😂😂🔥🔥
Haven’t finished but I heard ticket and Marz was special together
13:14 Larry Bird in 1986 was also incredible. The guy averaged 24, 9.7 and 9.5 and was killing the Rockets from all over the court.
2:22:52 thats how they saved the game in the 80s and made basketball a beautiful sport. Both Larry Bird and Magic Johnson maximised their own talents but also helped maximising the abilities and talents of their teammates
Daily reminder: Hakeem Olajuwon is the best big man of all time.
that weed must be good😂😂 foh he not even better than dirk
@@connortimmons5397 and you talking about weed hilarious
@@connortimmons5397 What are you smokin bro?
@@connortimmons5397 Nicca, Bruce Wayne might be smoking too much weed because his parents died at age 8, but you a straight crack fiend for having Dirk over Hakeem lolol.
Daily Reminder: No
Low being the most out of shape person on the panel and not understanding what competing is, is fitting.
😂😂😂😂😂
4:33 Yeah he went 41,8,6 in the 1993 finals. He was incredible in 1991 as well with 31, 11 and 7 with 2.8 steals and 1.4 blocks with 56% FG% and 50% from 3. Tim Duncan's 2003 finals performance deserves a mention
Low got cooked!!!
56:02 man the good ol marz vs ticket debate .😂😂😂
Great panel. Love the work you Bruthas doing. Keep it on going.
For him to be in everyone’s top 3, this is the first episode in a while where the topic got to Jordan. Would love to see more topics around the goat
As they've said, some topics were best saved for when the off-season officially began
Too 5 Finals MVP’s is a GREAT question because the 5th one is so difficult. Obviously there’s Jordan in 93, Bron in 2013, Shaq in 2000, Duncan in 03. After those 4 the 5th one is so difficult because there D Wade in 06, there’s Hakeem in 95, there’s Giannis in 2020, Magic in ‘87, and Steph and Jokic the past two years have been insane too. Between those though I might have to go Giannis. Defensively he was unreal, he was unstoppable offensively and that 50 piece elimination game? Yeah. MJ LeBron Shaq Duncan Giannis
Edit: I’m not camping for Superteams, I don’t like LeBron going to Miami-but Cleveland won 19 games when LeBron left. That team was terrible without him and he had a right to leave. I just think Bosh was OD for that team.
The slander against Jason Terry is crazy; he played great in that series and won them Games 4 and 6.
In the 2011 Finals, he averaged
18 points, 3.5 assists, 2 rebounds, and 1.5 steals with a 60% true shooting percentage.
36:14 Chill and Marz making the same face😭😭😭
2015 was just the preface of what was to come. LeSPN was just getting started. If LeBron cant get it for losing, give it to the guy he dropped 35ppg on
Into the Fluent-verse is hilarious 😂
1:17:24
Little known fact, while yes Chicago was on kobes list of teams to be traded to, so was the nash suns which sent him home 2 years in a row, and so were the san Antonio spurs with duncan. The only reason he refused the trade to Detroit was because too much of the championship core would be going to LA to trade for him.
So yea he did want to go to stacked teams.
the way y’all were talking abt teams sharing thte basketball and how it looked beautiful really reminded me of the way ppl talk abt the Barcelona tiki taka teams
Seeing low get cooked by Marz was amazing
JJ Barea was not a rookie in 2011 with dallas
Low got smoked and it wasn’t even close good stuff Marz
Low gets gets cooked and just starts gaslighting lmao. Moving the goal post, alleging he meant something he didn’t say, insulting people’s intelligence.
Low has been Julius randle lately getting deep fried
Crazy that no one mentioned 1967 Rick Barry. One of the most underrated players of all time.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
they lost
Marz and ticket out here looking like Shaq and Kobe
That whole argument at the end was nasty on both sides. Crazy semantics from both sides. Low definitely said win and not compete, he changed that up. Going by the strict definition of competing Marz and them were using Jokic and every player today has “more comp” than players who played before there was 30 teams but we just heard Jokic can’t be top X or Y for this whole week because he doesn’t have good enough “comp”.
the playoff’s literally mean every team competing for a ring 😂
21:47 if we went later Jordan years, I would go with 97 Jordan. He averaged 32,7 and 6 and the Flu Game was one of the clutch performance in NBA history
Ticket said there was more parody before Lebron went to the Heat. One can argue Boston Celtics becoming a Superteam played a part in Lebron going to Miami. Imagine if KG stays in Minnesota or goes to a team worse than the Celtics. Lebron may have stayed with the Cavs.
Parity*
21:41 I am surprised no one went with Michael Jordan 91. The man averaged 31, 11 and 7 with nearly 3stls and 1.4blks with 56% shooting
When ever ticket got his cam on he be cooking that conquers haki activate
Ron is one of the funniest on the panel for sure with them comments in Mars v Low
Why don’t anyone ever mention the ref for that 06 series getting in trouble for his illegal officiating
2:37:38 LOW and Marz laughing 😂😂😂
Found this page by accident and loving the vybz ❤
For the top 5 FMVPs I gotta go with Jordan in 93, Shaq in 2000, Kobe in 2009, Wade in 2006 and it's tie between 2016 Bron and 2022 Curry.
52:24 Ticket calling Domo names 😅
54:00 Marz & Domo bringing Ticket up on charges 😂🍿
54:30 Ticket continues calling Domo names 😂😂😂
54:52 Ticket proven not guilty LMAO😅
1:05:44 "So Chilltown you're a liar right and ima tell you why" LMAO I can't breathe 😂😂😂
1:14:54 Ticket calls Chill a clown 😅😅
1:15:00 Chills blood pressure going thru the roof😅😅
1:17:17 Ticket took the glasses off 🍿
1:44:31 Tickets right, how's LeBron so much better than Kobe, MJ, Kareem, Magic, Duncan etc when he formed a Superteam then said they gon win 8 rings. Then, when the Heat loss to the Spurs he formed another Superteam in Cleveland and his fans make every single excuse for him.
Generational meat riding for man who can’t read above a 1st grade level
Ticket be at mars hat for no reason 😂
kris middleton scores 40 and it doesn’t matter, but kyrie scores 40 so we have to downgrade lebron. this shit is just sad at this point😂
2:51:23 Marz left LOW dumb-founded.
2:51:45 damn that shriek from Marz to LOW. The legendary battle of Marz vs Ticket 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s so funny how you all genuinely think that getting to the conference finals means you are competitive or have a chance for the chip😂. Wait so you all genuinely thought that the 2016 raptors were “competitive “ and actually had a chance to beat the Cavs and have a chance to the warriors? 😂
what was said was if u are in the conference finals u are LITERALLY competing to be in the finals
@@MarzTalksSports That’s what he said but you know what he meant. ESPN marz back at it
Lmao they don't know ball
2016 Lebron HAS to be a top 5 all time finals performance. He led both teams in every statistical category. That means he was quite literally the best player on the floor in every aspect of the game, not just for his team, but for both teams. 29.7 points, 11.3 rebounds, 8.9 assists, 2.6 steals and 2.3 blocks. Coming back from 3-1 against a 73 win. What are we even talking about?
Ticket is the reason I watch these debates,
2:16:35 Fluent with the evil smile 😂😂😂😂
1:32:18 Angie Carr with wild superchats 😂😂😂😂😂
I love this show and love every single one of you guys including Low but he needed this cooking. I appreciate his knowledge of the game and his intelligence but he gives off know it all vibes all the time and it rubs me the wrong way. Glad to see Ticket and Marz team up and cook him in a debate.
Anything not to give Bron his props for ticket
They recuired Bosh after Riley said he cpuod possibly get him
1:16:40
Ticket was ecstatic that Low got jumped lmfao
Lmaooo fluent tried to push the strangest comparison about Jordan and Lebron. Ox couldn't let it slide
Jeez Marz flame grilled Low at the end it was unfair
2:24:19 Fluent being the troublemaker 😂😂😂😂😂
Yo that start bench cut was nasty also. Melo clears Paul Pierce and Jimmy Butler. The disrespect is crazyyy. Melo is easily a better scorer and rebounder than both of those guys. He also beating them both in longevity as he played 19 years and was balling as a rookie and was still serviceable his latter years as well. I need to hear some more logic on picking those guys because everyone agreed too easily.
The revisionist history was wild
Low is cooked
2:51:45 lmao get this nigga big Marz!! 😂🔥
38:11 damn Big OX Bob house is falling apart 🤦🤦🤦
2:06:43 Harden, Ime and Zion? Buns R Us 😂😂😂😂😂
2:05:39 Marz's soul left his body 😂😂😂😂.
2:17:00 Also he got away from KD and won a ring cause they were teammates in OKC
2:51:45 😂😂😂 funniest reaction from Marz ever!!
It’s hilarious because Low was wrong and knew he was wrong and started digging a hole and instead of admitting he was wrong he just kept digging and digging and digging 😂
1:43:45 after Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe, its Chltwn32 😂😂😂😂
Low was right imo about the competing vs competitive argument. By their logic every team that makes the playoffs technically competes for a championship but we understand theirs levels to contenders. But the rest of his argument was ass
Time stamp for wen low got cook
The cooking start @2:48:00
1:34:20 Chltwn was this close to upsetting Marz 😂😂😂😂
Marz vs low 2-0. Marz cooked him on open gym about jokic and Giannis beat player in the world, now cooked him even harder today. Low is Jimmy, 0-2. 😂😂 low also got cooked by Dub on Luka better offensively than Jokic. 😂
whats crazy is i sent dub that clip,im a playmaker too
its 3-1 marz with the kareem vs wilt offensively and low with the 05 nets
@@fwcammmmthe 05 nets came after i was cooking him for 30 minutes at best Low won a quarter
@@fwcammmm where do they debate Kareem vs wilt
@@cjt9264its a low knows clip
I get what low is saying tho. By definition it’s competing but they aren’t competitive
Nikola Jokic and Giannis antetokounmpo are more set in stone NBA history than Kevin Durant… 😮
2:46:44 Ticket getting giddy because Marz was on his side 😂😂😂
1:23:22 no he should not. The Bulls were terrible offensively in the 96 finals. Go look at the shooting splits of Scottie Pippen, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, etc. Michael Jordan carried them offensively in that series even though he was playing with a calf injury that he never mentioned
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Marz>>>Low
2:56:45 Marz put the exclamation mark on LOW. And you see what LOW did? If this was Ticket or Bob speaking to LOW, LOW would demean them to the point of the insanity. LOW even demean Chltwn for no reason at all.
And LOW would have demeaned Marz as well but since they have a lot of agreeable points, LOW did not insult Marz. But had Marz talked to LOW in the way that Bob or Ticket talked to LOW, LOW would have demeaned and ridiculed Marz and called him stupid. He is rude and brash for no reason