We wanted one of this to see the critters in our backyard. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGix1RueFf66g4dKZ0w4Qsw_3Vv6Xqant The first thing that I like about this is that it has a rechargeable battery. The other is that it is small and fairly easy to use. The instructions weren't too great but we played with it awhile and figured it out. Can see very well in our back yard down to the woods which is roughly a football field length in the dark. There were certainly more expensive ones out there but this works for us and was within our price range. We have not tried the video recording portion and may update the review later.
When I was a younger almost 20plus years ago there was a toy some kids had that looked just like the new 4 nod nvgs. It even had the eye divider glass for the site picture . It was white and purple and were supposed night seeing devices. I wonder if they got the patent from that toy company or if it was the other way around.
You mean the toy NODS packaged with the "dark edition" of "CALL OF DUTY - Modern Warfare" ? ruclips.net/video/JkbrDnm7xV0/видео.html&pp=ygUwTW9kZXJuIFdhcmZhcmUgRGFyayBFZGl0aW9uIG5pZ2h0IHZpc2lvbiBnb2dnbGVz
Hay man if you know a website that builds nvgs for way cheaper than the actual thing and works the same I don’t want to build my own so if you know any website let me know
I have never used it with Airsoft. However, when I was climbing a low mountain, I fell and hit PVS-31 on the ground, but it’s still working. Maybe the durability is good.
Where did you get the housing? I am finding some clones for 50 USD. Do they come with the correct lens and electronics to just drop in an IIT tube, or do I need a parts kit? I am planning on building one of these myself.
@@aesthetic8780 This comment is a year old before I knew anything about night vision. Most people don't really know how this stuff works and just ask questions to learn.
Thanks. 1) PVS-31 clone housing LINDU OPTICS www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-large-IPD-range-FOV_1600088148554.html Visionking www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html 2)MX 10160 IIT sry I don't know about IIT because the seller has asked me to keep it private.
Saying clone is a bit misleading I would probably say offbrand but I get what you’re saying. A lot of peeps will come for the purpose of making real working nods from airsoft accessory nods.
1) PVS-31 clone housing LINDU OPTICS www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-large-IPD-range-FOV_1600088148554.html Visionking www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html 2)MX 10160 IIT sry I don't know about IIT because the seller has asked me to keep it private.
I’m super interested where u got the clone pvs 31 housing because im looking into building one, it looked great and came with objective lens and other internals, it would be great if u can tell me the name or a link
I used a LINDU OPTICS PVS - 31 housing. by the ways, I bought the nods housing on Alibaba. I'm not sure if you can get one on Alibaba at the moment for $2000. but there're other interesting PVS-31 clone housings out there besides LINDU, so check them out. Also, although it's not the URL for this product, I found a store like this www.aliexpress.com/store/1102475008?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.305aTPZtTPZttB Good Luck
I'm curious where you got the clone housing? I have some Gen 2+ WP IITs that I'm trying to get a good solid housing for and CANNOT find some good ones for the life of me...
I didn't buy it here but it was a candidate for purchase.If you buy one tube, about $1300 including shipping. www.alibaba.com/product-detail/37-31MM-Image-Intensifier-tube-for_62294623513.html?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.E9ssFl
This nods don't need batteries?? It's very impressive!!! I want to make so stetic NVGs but are a lot of videos only with prototypes. Thanks a lot to make it real. Greetings from México
The nod is need to CR123 battery. Absolutely nothing nod building videos....lol Probably the Nod building video of this model is the "first" video uploaded in the world. Thank you so much.
@@iamnotacriminal What are you talking? There is literally not a SINGLE housing on the market with button batteries. The market is full of different housings. The 31 is the most used housing ever. Its not even possible to not find them.
@@nighthorus Thank you! I noticed you have White phosphor but the link you dropped is for green tubes. Will the green tubes in that link work with the Lindu Optics housing?
@@chrisr.1039 I think, Yes. BTW The color doesn't really matter. P20 Light Green, P43 Green, P45 White.... Whatever. I haven't purchased the tubes here, but I think they are compatible with LINDU PVS-31. The size of MX10160 is 1.448”diameter and 1.210”length. There are some errors in the calculation, but it should fit. maybe. 1.448”x1.210”=about 36.7mm x30.7mm 37mm x 31mm IIT www.alibaba.com/product-detail/37-31MM-Image-Intensifier-tube-for_62294623513.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.0.0.71094bc50VSg0p Please purchase at your own discretion and Good Luck🤞
@@izayaorihara7059 I bought it from an agent in my country. The seller didn't tell me where I bought it. And he said "pls you're not to say who bought it from" BTW, Nods is legal in my country.
Friend of mine bought a pair of night but I can for your helmet. It was pretty cool paid $6,000 for him. When you looked at all the clouds you couldn't see a star but with the binoculars you can see through the clouds and see all the stars. I don't know how much this one is but you can't see that in this video
I know nothing about night vision, but isn't there supposed to be some sort of purging of something done? I'm guessing for water-proofing or something?
Some do and some do not. I wouldn't even worry about it since the gas inside of the NODs will eventually escape in a few months. If you do this, use argon wine gas. With the opening facing down, remove the ocular lens and work in a sealable storage bag. Place the NODs in the objective lens unit and reinstall the ocular lens. Good luck.
no way... there is absolutely no way prop clone PVS31s just happen to be made in such a fashion that you could just slip some IITs in and have NODs. This housing was 100% a "real" PVS31 housing.
I’m confused, the Lindu housing is 10k how did you get the housing and the tubes for 6k total? Not tryna be rude just curious, and other than the experience of building NVGS, for that price wouldn’t it make more sense if you did spend the 10k to just buy actual PVS31s? I mean 10K for the housing and even being conservative with the price of your tubes wouldn’t it come out to be the same or even more price wise? Again not trying to be rude but I just wanna know if I’m missing something?
It's not a mistake. I got the Lindu PVS-31 housing for 2k on Alibaba at the time. and Two 2k tubes For 4k total I got it. 2k housing + 2k IIt x 2 ⁼ 6k Total cost of 6k. It may have gone up in price now. If you are interested, please contact the company via Alibaba chat. I don't know why the price is going up, but maybe it's cuz of the situation in Ukraine? Similar PVS-31 housings from other Alibaba companies should be available starting at 2k www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html
I found the housing on Alibaba. LINDU OPTICS PVS-31 www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OEM-factory-1X-binoculars-night_1600115721917.html?spm=a2700.shop_index.89.2.336a3481V8hRWx I paid $2000 for the housing and battery pack.
Hi, did I misunderstand or did you create an NVG using the housing of a PVS31 Dummy and 2 analog tubes? Is the procedure simple as seen in the video or are there other steps you have omitted? What is the cost of all?
Gen 1 is pretty bad. You'd only see things with the illuminator on, everyone sees the red glow. Without illuminator you're better off with your own eyes.
1900 usd sounds like very much for a simple housing. I paid 460 usd for a nvm-14 monocular housing including vat and shipping. I might get this one at sometime though.
@@onlykotti5343 I used VISA. LINDU OPTICS asked me to make a deposit by bank transfer or Western Union. However, I negotiated with them and purchased with VISA credit card payment.
I hear the flannel daddy music, I hit that like button
Thank you so much.
@@nighthorus where did you get the housing for it ?
Nah this Filthy Frank music first and foremost
@@nighthorus What is the FOM value of ITT shown in this video?
Can i order a set
Would you mind providing a link to each of the parts you got, The Clone, Tube's, ect...
We wanted one of this to see the critters in our backyard. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGix1RueFf66g4dKZ0w4Qsw_3Vv6Xqant The first thing that I like about this is that it has a rechargeable battery. The other is that it is small and fairly easy to use. The instructions weren't too great but we played with it awhile and figured it out. Can see very well in our back yard down to the woods which is roughly a football field length in the dark. There were certainly more expensive ones out there but this works for us and was within our price range. We have not tried the video recording portion and may update the review later.
I built a set at the beginning of the summer, my total cost was 800 USD. great work!!!
That's nice. Keep up the great work 👍
@@nighthorus thanks man, Im making another set, where did you get your IITs?
@@tacticalfacepalm20233 I got it from an agent in my country
I would be very interested doing the same, I'd like to figure out where you got your parts from
How did you do it for so cheap?
Lot better than my clone. I only used 2 toilet paper tubes with some green glow sticks inside. All held together with some duct tape.
😂
The housing is an fma one? Or another brand i don't want to buy twice so i ask ahahahah
This housing is a LINDU OPTICS PVS-31.
I bought in alibaba.
The music that plays as I do a tactical random raid on my neighbors house at 3 am with PVS 41
can you please list where you got the parts from?
No O-Rings? Enjoy the rain my main.
When I was a younger almost 20plus years ago there was a toy some kids had that looked just like the new 4 nod nvgs. It even had the eye divider glass for the site picture . It was white and purple and were supposed night seeing devices. I wonder if they got the patent from that toy company or if it was the other way around.
You mean the toy NODS packaged with the "dark edition" of "CALL OF DUTY - Modern Warfare" ?
ruclips.net/video/JkbrDnm7xV0/видео.html&pp=ygUwTW9kZXJuIFdhcmZhcmUgRGFyayBFZGl0aW9uIG5pZ2h0IHZpc2lvbiBnb2dnbGVz
Do you have a link to the parts? Or a build list?
Hay if you find some parts to buil some nvgs let me know I want to build my own
Hay man if you know a website that builds nvgs for way cheaper than the actual thing and works the same I don’t want to build my own so if you know any website let me know
Thanks so much for blessing us all with the holy powers of night vision
My pleasure :)
QUESTION the Clone is the one used in airsoft? Tkx
I have never used it with Airsoft. However, when I was climbing a low mountain, I fell and hit PVS-31 on the ground, but it’s still working. Maybe the durability is good.
Thanks I trying to find the clone, you see I from abroud and dont know exacly were to look for a clone, I only found airsoft replica
man old garand thumb intro music hits different
Absolutely
Can you make a few short out door vids with this set up? Like in the darkest conditions, cloudy nights, and indoors?
I'll challenge. But before that, I should buy a high ISO camera.
sony a, sionyx or something.
@@nighthorus heck you can make one. Can you suggest where to purchase the parts needed?
Idk why but it was so calming. Cool vid nonetheless, but the asmr was on point.
Thanks
Where are the links to the products used? Where did the cloned housing come from? Is it a quality unit?
Coldharborsupply it will run you around 4 to 6k to build them
At this point Imma just buy the real deal I can bulid thing but I can't bulid things that well lol
I don’t see it should be a parts breakdown and where to get the parts needed
Cat’s all class. Nice back ground music
Thanks👍
where did you get the housing from ?
Alibaba
Hey do you know anyone direct I can message?? I just need the electrical components!! The price went up to $10k.........I just need parts
Did you chat with LINDU OPTICS in Alibaba? If you buy only the housing, it should not cost 10k maybe.
is that NNVT gen2.5 WP?
Bro i would pay you for these but im broke but if you were to sell them how much?
Sry for that. I can't sell. But if I were a seller like them, I would sell for less than about $ 8,500. Well, it's a dream story ...😓
Where did you get the housing? I am finding some clones for 50 USD. Do they come with the correct lens and electronics to just drop in an IIT tube, or do I need a parts kit? I am planning on building one of these myself.
I don't think you'll find a clone with objective lenses on them and you'll also need to do some wiring on them
@@swirlypan4174 this was 7 months ago, but i have pvs 7 now
What are you talking about? In which dream fantasy world do you live in? 5O bucks? Wtf
More like 5OO - 1OOO
@@aesthetic8780 This comment is a year old before I knew anything about night vision. Most people don't really know how this stuff works and just ask questions to learn.
@@enigmafusion Sorry bro. I'm just an ridiculous a hole.
How does it perform without nitrogen purging? I imagine any temperature change would cause them to fog up
purging is not necessary.
I have a question, this is with aliexpress, and it all goes into the package, give me a link
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-PVS-31-housing-NVG_1600070474440.html
Where can i find that housing i World lime to bulid one my self
Alibaba LINDU PVS-31
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-PVS-31-housing-NVG_1600070474440.html?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.5HslE1
Hmm, this has Foo the Flowerhorn vibes
What brand is the housing.can you provide links to materials please
LINDU OPTICS PVS 31 Housing.
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-PVS-31-housing-NVG_1600070474440.html
Wait how and where you get theses
What brand in tube?
Russia China or something.
It's THAT EASY
Hi. Where i can buy the MX10160 Gen2.5 White Phosphor?
I PUSH THE LIKE TOO PLZ BRO WHENRE YOU BUY THE HOUSING ALLIE? and the IIT: MX10160 Gen2.5 White Phosphore?
i´ll appreciatte that thx
Thanks.
1) PVS-31 clone housing
LINDU OPTICS www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-large-IPD-range-FOV_1600088148554.html
Visionking www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html
2)MX 10160 IIT sry I don't know about IIT because the seller has asked me to keep it private.
@@nighthorus you can only buy the housing is more cheap right ?
@@cjquispe Yes.
who made this housing?
Lindu
@@nighthorus how is the glass on it?
Gen 2.5? So are these 2200+ FOM Photonis Echo tubes?
Saying clone is a bit misleading I would probably say offbrand but I get what you’re saying. A lot of peeps will come for the purpose of making real working nods from airsoft accessory nods.
Thank you
This was really neat. Nice work Night Horus.
I appreciate it.
Where do I get a set of these?
@Night Horus , do you have a parts list needed besides the PVS31 clone? links would be helpful too
1) PVS-31 clone housing
LINDU OPTICS www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-large-IPD-range-FOV_1600088148554.html
Visionking www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html
2)MX 10160 IIT sry I don't know about IIT because the seller has asked me to keep it private.
Still like 10gs just for the housing it seems.
I’m super interested where u got the clone pvs 31 housing because im looking into building one, it looked great and came with objective lens and other internals, it would be great if u can tell me the name or a link
I used a LINDU OPTICS PVS - 31 housing.
by the ways, I bought the nods housing on Alibaba.
I'm not sure if you can get one on Alibaba at the moment for $2000.
but there're other interesting PVS-31 clone housings out there besides LINDU, so check them out.
Also, although it's not the URL for this product, I found a store like this
www.aliexpress.com/store/1102475008?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.305aTPZtTPZttB
Good Luck
@@nighthorusWhat other housings exist? Don't see any good ones.
@@bradt5426 There are so many on Alibaba.
What was the overall cost for the kit. And web link will be nice also
where did you get the clone housing from
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I'm curious where you got the clone housing? I have some Gen 2+ WP IITs that I'm trying to get a good solid housing for and CANNOT find some good ones for the life of me...
I purchased a PVS-31 Clone made by LINDU on alibaba. There are other companies that make these things, so look them up on Alibaba.
newbie question : Why the little hole in the butler creek ? thanks.
The reason for making a hole is to confirm the operation in a bright place, And a simple aperture function.
aint no way it just drops right into the FMA model ? it has the glass and everything works ??
What brand is the clone housing for the pvs? I suppouse its the FMA with leds? AWESOME!!!
LINDU OPTICS PVS-31
Hi where can i get the tubes and how much are they?
I didn't buy it here but it was a candidate for purchase.If you buy one tube, about $1300 including shipping.
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/37-31MM-Image-Intensifier-tube-for_62294623513.html?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.E9ssFl
After some hard consideration, ill remain nodless all my life
This nods don't need batteries??
It's very impressive!!!
I want to make so stetic NVGs but are a lot of videos only with prototypes. Thanks a lot to make it real. Greetings from México
The nod is need to CR123 battery.
Absolutely nothing nod building videos....lol
Probably the Nod building video of this model is the "first" video uploaded in the world.
Thank you so much.
@@nighthorus 31As take AAA batteries or 4 AAA in a cold weather battery pack
What pvs-31 clone is that and where did you get it?
@@woodwj987the standard clone from ali
Can someone please drop a link to the items
Alibaba LINDU PVS-31
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-PVS-31-housing-NVG_1600070474440.html?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.5HslE1
It has been over a year, how has the lindu housing held up for you?
No problem. It's still working.
could you please link the housing you used. I would love to make one of these.
Fr I see some housing with button battery boards that can’t be the correct ones?
@@iamnotacriminal What are you talking? There is literally not a SINGLE housing on the market with button batteries. The market is full of different housings. The 31 is the most used housing ever.
Its not even possible to not find them.
Alibaba.
wait, how is it powered? from my understanding it has to have a battery to power it.
I think it’d be cool if you gave those to me😭
How long did it take for PVS31 dummy to arrive?
Arrived in about a week.
Out of curiosity how much did you spend in total on everything?
$6000
wow thats one expensive build. Nice classical music.
Thanks👍
Great video. I'm new to the game and looking into building a set for myself. Would this housing work with any green phos iit?
I think that there is no problem if it is MX10160 type.
@@nighthorus Thank you! I noticed you have White phosphor but the link you dropped is for green tubes. Will the green tubes in that link work with the Lindu Optics housing?
@@chrisr.1039 I think, Yes.
BTW The color doesn't really matter. P20 Light Green, P43 Green, P45 White.... Whatever.
I haven't purchased the tubes here, but I think they are compatible with LINDU PVS-31.
The size of MX10160 is 1.448”diameter and 1.210”length.
There are some errors in the calculation, but it should fit. maybe.
1.448”x1.210”=about 36.7mm x30.7mm
37mm x 31mm IIT
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/37-31MM-Image-Intensifier-tube-for_62294623513.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.0.0.71094bc50VSg0p
Please purchase at your own discretion
and Good Luck🤞
@@nighthorus
May we know where you got the white phosphor tubes?
@@izayaorihara7059 I bought it from an agent in my country. The seller didn't tell me where I bought it. And he said "pls you're not to say who bought it from" BTW, Nods is legal in my country.
How much does it all cost? Would this option be more benefit than buying more expensive real deal product?
The cost was about $6000.
You can easily get PVS-31.
@@nighthorus thanks for the tip. I wanted to get into the night shooting game aswell for along time.
Where I get that
Alibaba
Friend of mine bought a pair of night but I can for your helmet. It was pretty cool paid $6,000 for him. When you looked at all the clouds you couldn't see a star but with the binoculars you can see through the clouds and see all the stars. I don't know how much this one is but you can't see that in this video
There is not a single unit on the market thats able to see through clouds.
Army grade?
I'm not sure.
I know nothing about night vision, but isn't there supposed to be some sort of purging of something done? I'm guessing for water-proofing or something?
Some do and some do not.
I wouldn't even worry about it since the gas inside of the NODs will eventually escape in a few months.
If you do this,
use argon wine gas.
With the opening facing down, remove the ocular lens and work in a sealable storage bag. Place the NODs in the objective lens unit and reinstall the ocular lens.
Good luck.
no way... there is absolutely no way prop clone PVS31s just happen to be made in such a fashion that you could just slip some IITs in and have NODs. This housing was 100% a "real" PVS31 housing.
those IITs are 3000USD a tube, and he has 2 of em
Where can I buy the MX10160?
I think Alibaba, eBay, or somewhere .
I’m confused, the Lindu housing is 10k how did you get the housing and the tubes for 6k total? Not tryna be rude just curious, and other than the experience of building NVGS, for that price wouldn’t it make more sense if you did spend the 10k to just buy actual PVS31s? I mean 10K for the housing and even being conservative with the price of your tubes wouldn’t it come out to be the same or even more price wise? Again not trying to be rude but I just wanna know if I’m missing something?
It's not a mistake. I got the Lindu PVS-31 housing for 2k on Alibaba at the time.
and Two 2k tubes For 4k total I got it.
2k housing + 2k IIt x 2 ⁼ 6k
Total cost of 6k.
It may have gone up in price now. If you are interested, please contact the company via Alibaba chat.
I don't know why the price is going up, but maybe it's cuz of the situation in Ukraine?
Similar PVS-31 housings from other Alibaba companies should be available starting at 2k
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Visionking-Optics-Fov-50-Degree-Gen_1600055595788.html
@@nighthorus awesome, thank you for clearing that up ❤️
@@prodalright No prob👍
@@prodalrightWhat are you talking? You can even get it done for 4-5k with this housing. Stop talking shii.
@@aesthetic8780 learn to read.
Pvs 31 clone 2.5 gen price
How much did you spend to make it?
What the cheapest phosphor I can buy that will fit?
Maybe,,, You can buy MX10160 Green Phosphor P43.
Where did you get the housing? I’m trying to find a similar set but struggling to find some
I found the housing on Alibaba.
LINDU OPTICS PVS-31
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OEM-factory-1X-binoculars-night_1600115721917.html?spm=a2700.shop_index.89.2.336a3481V8hRWx
I paid $2000 for the housing and battery pack.
Where did you buy the clone housing I can’t find it
Alibaba
wait how much did this cost
About $6000
@@nighthorus dang im broke i might just order like a 70 dollar night vision camera off amazon
@@campbellaviation7289 oh god....
Can i use this itt that you give to bnvd143
Hi, did I misunderstand or did you create an NVG using the housing of a PVS31 Dummy and 2 analog tubes? Is the procedure simple as seen in the video or are there other steps you have omitted? What is the cost of all?
I did the same and the cost was just under 4 thousand with 1700 fom tubes
@@moistenedeel4791 I decided to try a Jerry31. I had a PVS14 with 1700 FOM NNVT5 and I took a Jerry with 1600 FOM NNVT4. We hope well🤞🏻
Why downgrading so heavy? NVT-5 has modern performance like OMNI 7. Nvt-4 has omni 3-4 performance. Thats a big difference@@Ares-TN02
Night Horus, where did you buy those from?
Alibaba
@@nighthorus how much was they a piece?
@@jackhamlett9835 about $1900
bro i want this so bad but am broke thanks for the video tho
Comprei um na aliexplex desse cor com lente azul e não funciona
I’m interested in a set
Where can I buy the camera
Where did you purchase the complete housing with electronics/lenses?
Alibaba
is this like the Jerry 31s?
housing $10,300 and g2 green tubes $1,200 total cost $11,500 for Chinese clones? Real ones go for $6,500 what's wrong with this picture?
can u build me a pair i will pay u
Where do you get the clone nvg???
LINDU OPTICS PVS 31
www.alibaba.com/product-detail/LINDU-OPTICS-PVS-31-housing-NVG_1600070474440.html
No tube purge?
I’m thinking about buying a gen 1 monocular on Amazon and taking the IIT and battery system and transferring it into the PVS housing. Would that work?
I think Maybe not. The tube that fits this NOD is MX10160.
Gen 1 is pretty bad. You'd only see things with the illuminator on, everyone sees the red glow. Without illuminator you're better off with your own eyes.
How much was the housing alone? Seems like a decent unit.
The housing cost was $1900.
1900 usd sounds like very much for a simple housing. I paid 460 usd for a nvm-14 monocular housing including vat and shipping. I might get this one at sometime though.
@@nighthorus The link you've posted from 6 months ago now shows that Lindu Optics housing for over $10,000. Quite the jump!
Lens
Oceans eleven anyone?
Where did you find the clone housing?
Alibaba
Who makes the replica housing
LINDU OPTICS
@@nighthorus only ones I found are 10k lol
Wassup bro
Where dis you buy the housing?
Alibaba
bro the kit is 2k
Where did u get the Housing ? is it the Fma ?
No. It's not FMA.
I used the PVS 31 housing made by LINDU OPTICS.
@@nighthorus thanks Mate what did u pay for the housing ?
@@onlykotti5343 I used VISA.
LINDU OPTICS asked me to make a deposit by bank transfer or Western Union.
However, I negotiated with them and purchased with VISA credit card payment.
Crazy haha thanks for the Info :)