Why Top Sports Recruits Are Choosing HBCU's | Game Theory With Bomani Jones | HBO
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2022
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Great show. Bo is the best.
Bomani, what a joke.
FLEX being able to have your mom as a legit guest on your tv show. Happy for brother Bo
The real flex! Having your mother on the show at the height of your career and it be relevant!
Just a thought, being that high schools have taken trade skills out of high schools why wouldn't HBCU pick that up to encourage those trades along with business courses?
I posed that question to my 70yr old mother who’s a teacher…She said “Historically blacks were relegated to those careers and doing away with trades in the school was to not type cast our selves.” I encourage any career field that can enable a livable wage for a traditional 4 person house; preferably with a focus on STEM which is were the most demand/money/need is.
@@hiphopsmaddness agreed now we need those same trades.
Yessssssss
Those skills can still be learned at community colleges. And yes, there are HBCU community colleges too.
It’s a very simple answer, who funds community colleges - the states do.
I really liked the middle of this video. I have never been a huge sports fan, and I went to a non-dominant school for my education (CSU). I have never understood why colleges are so focused on athletics when, a majority of students aren't there to chase them, but rather to get skills they need in the "capitalism gone amok" society. When Bomani talks about an HBCU needing to continue to do what's best for the students, not the athletic department, it was nice to know that there's a shared idea about that somewhere out there. Keep having fun with your show Bomani! :)
It generates billions is the reason why sports is a big deal for colleges.
@@MrEJF02 It was very profitable for schools ironically...until Title IX.
U sound ludacris
Something everyone is overlooking: most D1 athletic departments don’t make money. 93% lose. Most HBCUs are just concerned with being in the black each season.
Sinking millions into a stadium is a fool’s errand. The $80M in debt the university could spend on a new facility would be better spent on new academic programs or better academic and housing facilities.
Chasing football money when those programs don’t even add up to a net positive for PWIs is backwards thinking.
Biggest point missed was the money generated by athletics trickle down to other parts of the institutions just like in the PWI’s
thank you!!!! look at the endowments of HBCU.s...anemic at best...Howard has 500mm...Harvard has 49 billion
..tech transfer and athletics make money for a school that then can build infrastructure...we need money for infrastructure...🙈🙉🙊
Trickle, not flood.
He did mention it and that's highly unlikely to happen and/or make the type of change needed at HBCUs to be equal to most PWIs infrastructure wise.
@@ericfranklin6260 to be honest...unless HBCU.s start to invest in academic innovation by churning out IPOs via tech transfer OR churning out blue chip athletes that attract conference sharing media and NIL contracts they will never be able to compete...these are facts that must be explicitly targeted...
Exactly. PWIs are making $50-60 mil yearly from athletics, which are 75% Black students. Money follows the athletes that win, not just the school.
My twin sister attended an HBCU (UAPB, SWAC), I attended a PWI (University of Arkansas, SEC). We're first generation college students and both have PhDs (I graduate next month). We both research HBCUs and have seen it all. Although I agree funding is needed immensely at HBCUs, I totally disagree with his comparing HBCUs to Ivies. Ivies have billion dollar endowments that they've worked off of for generations/centuries. HBCUs and Ivies do not have the same applicant pool and therefore do not have the generational wealth entering and exiting their campuses. Comparing the two is impossible without incorporating other aspects of the equation, many of which are too vast to even attempt.
There are tons of D3 schools that focus on research grants and emulate the Ivy model successfully. That’s his point.
@@_xsax Jackson State is a D1 school so your response is unfortunately not an argument that can be made. The fact that you insinuate HBCUs are collectively the same and that Jackson State is at the same academic and athletic level as a D3 school also proves my point. Furthermore, the D3 schools you speak of are likely historically white with endowments much larger than HBCUs for the same reasons mentioned in my initial response. If I’m wrong, please feel free to provide an example.
That endowment piece is a Huge factor to Ivy League schools sustainability. On one hand he’s saying not to be like D1 PWIs, then on the other hand it’s “be like the most elite D1 PWIs”. 🤦🏾♂️ Got it, that group that includes schools which are over 200 years old.
And what he doesn't realize is that if more of the top athletes went to the hbcus the ESPN's and the ABCs and the Fox Sports would show up with a bag and that money helps pay the professors help fund the other sports and the band. I hear what he's saying but I totally disagree about black athletes going to these pwi's because whenever a white College benefit financially from a black player it just doesn't sit right.
@Tina 💛 The Federal Government is supposed to fund HBCU's. That's politics that need to be pushed, the nation owe a debt and that's part of it.
HBCU's are still so relevant and needed. Nothing like attending one. I can't wait till my masters program.
OF COURSE his girlfriend is white!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
That explains why he blames all his problems on white people lol
I swear 😂😂😂
Obviously
Pretty accurate.
Outstanding work
Love you Bo, but we need our athletes at our schools period.
But we have our athletes at our schools already.
@@gabrieljohnson4517 we need ALL our athletes at our schools.
@@TA-ht4jo come on now there’s not enough hbcu to make that happen
I agree. Folks don't realize that Universities make big money on their athletic programs which can be used to build the chemistry lands and other things complain we don't have
@@iTuber012 Correct
Awesomely accurate. Great commentary Bomani.
In case I never get the opportunity to say so in person, I really want to let Bo's Parents know how much I appreciate all the work they have put in for the Culture in Politics, Academia, and Business. Quiet legends who I would love to hear speak at ANY time.
He MURDERED that take! 🔥🔥🔥 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The SEC reported $729 Million in total revenue in 2020 and it distributed roughly $45.5 million to each of the 14 members. Off sports 😳😳
In 2021 the conference made $777.8 mill, each 14 members got $54 mill each. Just off sports.....😮
True as that might be, only 18 of 229 athletic departments turn a profit. They both make and spend a lot of money. 93% of schools athletic departments loses money.
This is a fools errand for HBCUs.
School has a million sports program but doesnt have functional chemistry labs. Thank you, Bomani - put education first in schools!
What school are you talking about? Can’t be Jackson State.
@@DJ-ly5xx ...I'm talking about the same school Bomani is talking about. Schools over 15k students sports budget is bigger than the chemistry departments. I'm talking generally but if Jackson State fits... meh
@@iWinsomeLosesome I’m sure every Division I school’s athletics budget is bigger than the Chemistry Department’s budget. Just like the Superdome’s electric bill is higher than mine at my home.
@@DJ-ly5xx ...that's insightful (not really) but also short-sighted. A school spending more on sports than... chemistry? That's ironic. And it's not sports like rowing teams or field hockey that eats up the budget. Schools are over spending on low level to mid-level sport programs - bad investments. And it's not just small schools mishandling budgets. When Syracuse won the title, they got a ton of media money, the coach got $4mm salary and in two years tuition went up to over $35k. Make it make sense? A school's primary focus to attract students cannot result in increased tuition to pay for sports programs. I am not sure how to defend schools spending less money on academia and more money on sports. Schools should no longer be schools but rebrand as sport clubs with academic options. That makes more sense.
@@iWinsomeLosesome most of the schools you are mentioning do not use student tuition to fund athletics. The programs make their own money. Schools can have great sports programs and great chemistry programs. Many of them do currently (JSU included). And it typically costs more to run a large athletic program than it does to run a chemistry department. This is basic math. I’m not even sure what you are arguing… My point is that the chemistry vs. athletics thing is ridiculous.
7:56 when Bo said "that's my Mom" I finally see where Bo gets all this wisdom from.
Look at mama!!! I love it!
Bo is spot on. Athletics is a small portion of why white schools make money. We need funding.
Thanks for this show HBO Thank you for being a genius Bomani
Dope AF !!!
Killing it Bo. Love the show big time.
This is good.
I feel like he missed the significance. Yes HBCU's need funding. They can keep asking the state but selling more football tickets puts money in the school regardless of the state government. Plus you boost enrollment which now gives you more potential donors and more leverage to ask the state for money.
Great show
Athletics will help all aspects of the school!
Yeah...but history clearly shows that sports money NEVER makes it's way to other departments. NEVER.
They should! I am starting to understand that these players are starting to see that there is a much better situation at an HBCU.
Definitely food for thought
You can play football in those states, but they don't want you voting there. HBCU's can help change the narrative in those states. Cancel those football powerhouses, because you're all they got. See if those states don't start getting their act together when that money doesn't come in to those schools.
Then they will just take money away from hbcu Texas A&M will never let Prairie View be as good as them in football
Best new show on HBO this year! Good to see Bomani changing nothing, just being himself. You don't need to be black to enjoy & appreciate Bomani's podcast "The Right Time"; you just need to know & love sports, have a sense of humor...and not rate it 4 stars instead of 5 -- which will incline him to think you're a hater. Keep up the good work, and much success to "Game Theory." And kudos to HBO, for betting on Bomani.
Nothing but his hairline.
Interesting take
I need Game Theory in Canada!
My mans said I want a new son!!🤣😭😭
I’m really perplexed by your take on this Bo.
Not surprised at all...everybody has a price..$$$$
This whole take basically told HBCUs to not be like PWIs but be like the most wealthiest PWIs. Got it, they have billion dollar endowments and several started before USA was a country.
Bo really different and I love this for him
Bo sneezes sense.
Why does it have to be either or? Why can’t we push to have both. If sports has the potential to bring in money both short term and long term and academics is more of a future investment, institutions should focus on both. The problem with focusing just on academics is academics doesn’t being in any money you at least up front. Getting the top math or science mind is great for the student but no one is buying tickets to see them do well on their finals. There needs to be a strategy in place that allows both to benefit and it’s going to time because the HBCU’s at large are down bad financially.
This segment he did was kinda duplicitous because he started out obviously talking about Jackson State and the SWAC conference without referencing them by name but then he used Howard to counter the argument by bringing up their recent issues with molding and having rats with an infestation of other health hazards. For a HBCU graduate that kind of makes me sick to my stomach to see because it's inherently dishonest and misleading.
💯 Football and basketball programs are money makers for D1 schools. Alumni and donors who may give to those programs can be enticed to give to the overall school budget. Kansas basketball booster donor also gave money for a new campus library and research wing. These examples go on across many PWIs. The framing of JSU AD and Prime only caring about football is deceitful. Coach Prime has talked about helping out other athletic programs, getting alumni to buy in to give more, and fixing other buildings on campus. And he wants other HBCUs to rise as well.
Bo is right, HBCUs have poor maintenance. Schools get donations but somehow administrators get away with the trickle down theory. Bo seemed more concerned about most highly rated high school athletes continuing going to PWIs to make the league; instead of returning back to HBCUs to build them up. Bo wants PWIs to benefit from our athleticism more than our own 🤦🏾♂️ HBCUs been graduating lawyers and doctors. 2/3 or black doctors received completed undergrad at an HBCU. This has been going on for decades and the schools have stayed in shambles. It’s not bad for a 🐐to come to an HBCU to help funding for all HBCUs.
Tbh hbcu can’t compete with neither. Hbcu do not have the money neither can they attract students
All facts.
Good Show.
Facts 💯 HBCU'S Need FUNDING
Number one recruit in the country
Maan the joke about financial aid offices at HBCUs is so on point lol
I've attended 3 PWIs, one SEC and 2 Ivies. It's bad everywhere and worse at PWIs given that they have tons of staff and still can't get things done on time. Don't let folks tear down HBCUs like this.
@@tina1908 it's all personal experience. I've been to 2 PWIs and 2HBCUs. Had worse experience with financial aid at the HBCUs but doesn't take away the fact that I enjoyed the school experience more at HBCUs.
@@jonathanbooker281 Your experience was different likely because white schools have the money to hire more people to do less work individually whereas Black schools are doing more work with less people, less technologically savvy equipment and systems to conduct their work. I don’t know why I try to explain things to people who don’t care 😂
@@jonathanbooker281 your parents should have saved and invested for your education
Did Bomani play sports at Clark Atlanta University?
I love this show
I did a few campus visits waaay back in the day. North Carolina Central was too hood outside of campus, Duke was too expensive AND too hood outside of campus. Chose NC State, got mugged smack in the middle of East campus. 😆 🤣
Pleas, I think I knew you at NC State. What a weird coincidence to see you here.
@@RSMoreno Whattup Ray! Frank and Andy?
You should have gone to A&T. Aggie pride!
Duke isn’t “hood” outside campus. 🧢
Amazingly hilarious skit!
Ok Mr Jones 👏
Howard has had that issue for more than 30yrs. Now my alma mater, NSU, has their campus game down.
So does A&T.
He right
Bo’s the man!
Basketball is the move, You only need 5-8 players. Yes the infrastructure and donating needs to be improved.
If you get the best black athletes at HBCU’s, you can not only generate money for the school but also the entire community! Other businesses and commercial builders will come to Jackson and build around that school. Deion is giving a blueprint for all HBCU’s to get those RESOURCES black people need by using FOOTBALL to get 80K in the seats! Deion said JSU generated 30 Million last year for the city of Jackson! It’s bigger than Football, but the irony is that’s exactly what we need to move the economic needle !!!
$30M for the city of Jackson doesn’t mean $30M for JSU.
I like this show
I didn't know this was a sketch show too lol
love this show
Nice Bo!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Glad these young men have extra options but the NCAA will reign supreme forever.
Interesting pov
Interesting content huh!
much funnier w/out the tie
Howard University needs a billion dollars added to their endowment.
YES!!! Please fund that financial aid office!!!
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Pure facts.
lol drumline
Deion gonna need to stick around for a while...
It’s not a new day, it’s just history repeating itself. Where you think all these dudes would’ve been going in the 50s and 60s?
Not as many options during that time
PWIs weren’t allowing them in then.
Irrelevant this ain’t the 50s or 60s should we go back to the 1800s also?
Bruh this is hard to me
I don't disagree with that HBCUs need better science labs but how does he profess where the money comes from? I'm %100 sure that the administration from most HBCUs want better academic facilities but unless watching med students in chem labs becomes a spectator sports that brings in revenue more attractive sports teams that can draw huge crowds and sell merchandise is the way to get resources that can pay for those academic facilities that are in need of upgrading is the way. Oprah went to Tennessee State and let's see if they have any state of the art science labs or even a broadcast journalism department that rivals any school in the country, if not then let the football team be great and begin to generate revenue for the sports program and the rest of the school as well. Hopefully the football team can produce so NFL players that succeed in the league and they give back generously to the school that can help those other departments get better. I bet all the money that Alabama generates for the school get used to build the best academic facilities in the state of Alabama. Unless Bomani is talking solutions then all this is a segment for just commentary for entertainment. Plus, those college athletes are also students and just maybe they want to have the HBCU experience as well and be treated like they matter for more than just their ability to run, jump and catch.
“HBCUs need better science labs” is an ignorant blanket statement. Jackson State (the subject of this video) literally just received a $1 Million gift for its College of Science Engineering and Technology this week. The science facilities are top notched at JSU.
Where does the funding coming from at all those PWIs though? It's not billionaires, and the ones that do are sports fans. The Ivy Leagues have long money and old money
We can do Both at the Same -- time
With what money? Why hasn't it been done if this is the case?
But What bout those wealthy non sports related HBCU alumni…
Football is where it is at. Keep the top recruits coming and you will see revenue increase drastically.
Welcome to the 21st Century. I Love HBCUs.
Boule Boule Boule
I agree but he missing one thing .hbcu shouldn’t never been in d1 level or need to thinking bout cutting sports
I don't understand. He wants to point people in HBCU's to be engineers and such.... but he's a third generation HBCU graduate. Where's his PhD? This doesn't take into account the interest of the student.
I don’t understand what he was trying to say, and don’t think I liked it. You don’t talk down about our Schools like this - help fix it internally. Yes, our institutions need some serious operational revamping, but we still need the exposure that these top athletes can also bring.
If there is money coming in and things remain the same, sometimes we need to expose things in public.
Of course a CAU grad would hate on The House. Who went to school there... that matters?
they aren't
Let the truth arise!
Football is FUNDING
Haters come in all colors.
Dad: I want a new son
This entire video is ignorant. The revenue that is generated at HBCUs is filtered right back into the local Black communities and laboratory schools they directly serve. If HBCUs can create massive revenue through athletics, the Black community greatly benefits. The PWIs amassed most of the great facilities (academic and athletic) off of the backs of Black student-athletes, therefore, the same type of external FUNDING can be utilized at HBCUs to renovate existing dorms/facilities but also to improve the entire physical plant.
What would 2pac do?
Same thing ur mom would do...lol
Classic skit!
Bomani and Mama Jones are not lying
For 4-5 years, you get to be around people that looking like you and getting a feeling of belonging
He is right about us needing funding BUT the counter to that is that instead of helping Alabama make millions that money could go to us. And trust me they would come if JSU beat Ole Miss or MSU
I see why this show got cancelled.
Now I understand his ratings. zzzzzzzz
$22 billion college football industry. The PWI‘s reinvest the money game from sports into academics.
93% of PWIs lose money on their athletic departments.
@@rtwo4570 please cite the studies or provide a link to the data you are speaking of 93% of athletic
This show wont last long. He’s speaking too much truth
Lol@Bomani Jones. A show that almost nobody watches!
bomani jones the soupy sales of sports journalism,whats not to love,
I see this as a short term fad. Players not getting the television exposure that they otherwise would is the main issue. If hbcus became d1 schools it might be sustainable
Some HBCUs are D-I's (The SWAC and the MEAC, ). The CIAA and SIAC schools are D-II's. In football DI HBCUs are known as FCS (formerly I-AA) schools. In basketball, they are DI and of course as we all know, schedule Power 5 DI's for money games and often play the biggest schools in the NCAA Division I Tournament.
Sadly I agree it’s a short term fad I wish it wasn’t true but being realistic it is
@@johnharris4265 I should say ones that join major conferences
@@blankname6629 major conferences don't want HBCUs in their leagues
@@shermandudley5548 yes I know
Bomani is about to get cancelled. I can't believe what I am hearing. Holy blasphemy! :-0
Hey Bomani, how’s it feel to get beat out by an infomercial in the ratings? Your show is that horrible.
He’s a woke race baiting clown. The vast majority of 4 and 5 star recruits are not picking HBCUs
Hey William how does it feel to be a loser troll? 😂😂😂
Florida state is a joke
That would be great, then worthy students could get scholarships for their education. NFL and NBA should have their own minor leagues or pay colleges back the scholarship money wasted on ball players.