Joe, I just had to write this comment and let you know how interesting and informative your RUclips videos are. I watched your sharpening videos over and over again, and then armed with the Norton stone and mineral oil I was able to put a razor-like edge on my Henckels chef’s knife. Which by the way, never had the right sharpness since it was brand new. Your teaching ability was very effective in getting my sharpening skills to a much higher level. Thank you!
Your videos are definitely the best, most informative and easy to understand sharpening related videos out there. Many other videos are too much talk and regurgitating of marketing bs, old wives tales and "set in stone" rules whereas you cut the bs and put steel to stone
you have a very nice sharpening technique. One thing i would suggest is using a leather or denim strop with a polishing compound. I used to do the same stroping technique on the stone as you and i was fine with it. i was cocky back then and i was thinking "What? leather can't make a knife sharp, thats bs". But i got into knifemaking and i downloaded this book by David Boyle about knifemaking and he explained in details what and how leather actualy removes the burr and makes a razor sharp edge. I tried it once and i couldn't use a knife thats not stroped after sharpening. Thats why i use my own knives at work(i am a chef), others are just dull. Always strop your knives! Thanks for the awesome video!
I believe norton 85455 is the same stone in a regular box Ordered one today for $27.21. The same stone in the commemorative JB8 box is $51.21. $24 extra for a limited edition box. Liked the video. Hoping this works better than a waterstone.
Hi again Joe. An idea for a vid, bearing in mind i'm completely new to oil stones (JB8 on way). "An end of session procedure for new comers" taking in the clean up and storage of oil stones for keeping a well maintained stone that's going to last in good condition. Just an idea. ATB. Pete.
Which is better, oil or water? How do you keep the stone from filling up over time? Do oiled stones have to be kept oiled between use? Can they be washed with soap, and reoiled?
depends on whether you like oil or water. if the stones are not soft enough that they release grit and refresh themselves, then you will need to resurface them occasionally, usually with loose sic grit on plate glass. for my oil stones, I typically use mineral oil, do my sharpening job, then wash the stone in warm water and dawn liquid soap, set on the counter to dry, and then store on a rack till next time.
I ordered the Norton Crystolon combination oil stone 100/280 grit from Amazon, cost was $23.96 and that is the amount I was charged. My order came today, but it wasn't the stone I ordered. The stone I received was the Norton Waterstone combination grit benchstone 220/1000 grit that sells for $49.99. It says combination stone, but it actually is 2 separate stones that are each a half inch thick. How does this stone compare to the Crystolon stone I ordered? I don't know if I should keep this stone or send it back. If Joe or anyone else could reply to this, I would appreciate it. Thanks
al, I have the 220/1000 norton waterstone, and it is a good stone for all around use, definately in the same class as the crystolon combination stone as far as an all around use sort of stone. in my mind, the waterstone wont cut as quickly or as agressively as the crystolon, it uses water instead of oil, and some folks find water is cleaner than oil. it will wear quicker, but be easier to dress flat when it needs it. the sharpening procedure is much the same from both stones, except with the waterstone it is easier for me to take an extra couple moments to really prepare that burr for removal, then drag the edge through some soft wood to remove the burr and then stone strop 2 times per side give or take depending on how much pressure you use to clean up the edge from getting the burr ripped off instead of shearing it off. in a perfect world we would all have every stone out there, but finances and storage say we probably shouldnt. but you would not go wrong with the water stone if you decide to keep it.
Great video! I am getting this JB8 stone today. I see lots of references here and there about the Norton (fine) India stones. Do I also need a fine India stone for any special reason (would be generally for knives/chisels - *maybe* also a D2 steel Benchmade) ?
the india fine stone is a great stone. it is about the same grit rating as the crystolon fine, but is much harder, so while it wont wear as fast or become uneven or glazed as quickly, it takes longer to dress and maintain. so if you are heavy handed, or sharpen small edges like chisels or small pointed tools like lathe bits, it might be a good stone to consider.
@@joecalton1449 Thanks Joe. They are cheap enough that I might buy an India just to try and compare. Besides, most people would probably agree that there's no way a guy could ever have too many stones lol.
it is my understanding that the only common stones that are harder than silicon carbide {which is what the crystolon stones are made out of} are diamonds. my crystolon stones have sharpened everything I have put in front of them including carbide lathe bits. so you should not have a problem sharpening anything with them.
I noticed on your other video you buy a lot of diamond stones per year. Have you tried the continuous version? It seemed to last longer for me than the ones that are interrupted. I need to get me some of that sic powder to recondition my medium ceramic stone.
Winco 12-Inch Fine/Grain Knife Sharpening Stone, Medium, New, Free Ship Brand New $14.23 smaller sizes even lower cost. They are used in food service everywhere.
You have great great great sharpening skills way above the average joe mate. But yeah great video cant agree more on this. Dreaming of owning a chinese cleaver from you one day
The tecnique is good but sharpening a standard kitchen knife on a crystolon looks a bit too overkill . Crystolon would probably be ok with extra hard powder steel.
Beats messing around all day long with a 1000 grit J-NAT stone. Coarse stones make work happen quicker. If you value your time, you want to start coarse. Considering he scraped the edge across a brick, 120 grit Crystolon seems appropriate to start. You could go finer, but you're just wasting time if you've got a coarse stone available.
I absolutely love mine and also my Indian. Great stone's
Awesome stuff I taught knife sharping on a Norton triple block some 40 years ago...
Thanks again
thanks for the visit!
Joe, I just had to write this comment and let you know how interesting and informative your RUclips videos are.
I watched your sharpening videos over and over again, and then armed with the Norton stone and mineral oil I was able to put a razor-like edge on my Henckels chef’s knife. Which by the way, never had the right sharpness since it was brand new.
Your teaching ability was very effective in getting my sharpening skills to a much higher level.
Thank you!
great to hear of your sharpening sucess!!
Your videos are definitely the best, most informative and easy to understand sharpening related videos out there. Many other videos are too much talk and regurgitating of marketing bs, old wives tales and "set in stone" rules whereas you cut the bs and put steel to stone
Glad you like them!
This stone is all you need
I just cried a little when he dulled that knife.
it made my dam butthole twitch LOL
you have a very nice sharpening technique. One thing i would suggest is using a leather or denim strop with a polishing compound. I used to do the same stroping technique on the stone as you and i was fine with it. i was cocky back then and i was thinking "What? leather can't make a knife sharp, thats bs". But i got into knifemaking and i downloaded this book by David Boyle about knifemaking and he explained in details what and how leather actualy removes the burr and makes a razor sharp edge. I tried it once and i couldn't use a knife thats not stroped after sharpening. Thats why i use my own knives at work(i am a chef), others are just dull. Always strop your knives! Thanks for the awesome video!
Great technique.
Thank you!
Hi Joe. Got the JB8 Norton winging its way to me from Ebay (England £20). Looking forward trying it. Need to get some sic powder next.
sweet! I hope you get a lot of good service out of it!
I believe norton 85455 is the same stone in a regular box Ordered one today for $27.21. The same stone in the commemorative JB8 box is $51.21. $24 extra for a limited edition box. Liked the video. Hoping this works better than a waterstone.
Good tip. Use a similar number to find cheaper JUM3.
Hi again Joe. An idea for a vid, bearing in mind i'm completely new to oil stones (JB8 on way). "An end of session procedure for new comers" taking in the clean up and storage of oil stones for keeping a well maintained stone that's going to last in good condition. Just an idea. ATB. Pete.
Great video Joe! I have a few Norton SiC stones and they are great!
Which is better, oil or water?
How do you keep the stone from filling up over time?
Do oiled stones have to be kept oiled between use?
Can they be washed with soap, and reoiled?
depends on whether you like oil or water. if the stones are not soft enough that they release grit and refresh themselves, then you will need to resurface them occasionally, usually with loose sic grit on plate glass. for my oil stones, I typically use mineral oil, do my sharpening job, then wash the stone in warm water and dawn liquid soap, set on the counter to dry, and then store on a rack till next time.
I ordered the Norton Crystolon combination oil stone 100/280 grit from Amazon, cost was $23.96 and that is the amount I was charged. My order came today, but it wasn't the stone I ordered. The stone I received was the Norton Waterstone combination grit benchstone 220/1000 grit that sells for $49.99. It says combination stone, but it actually is 2 separate stones that are each a half inch thick. How does this stone compare to the Crystolon stone I ordered? I don't know if I should keep this stone or send it back. If Joe or anyone else could reply to this, I would appreciate it. Thanks
al, I have the 220/1000 norton waterstone, and it is a good stone for all around use, definately in the same class as the crystolon combination stone as far as an all around use sort of stone. in my mind, the waterstone wont cut as quickly or as agressively as the crystolon, it uses water instead of oil, and some folks find water is cleaner than oil. it will wear quicker, but be easier to dress flat when it needs it. the sharpening procedure is much the same from both stones, except with the waterstone it is easier for me to take an extra couple moments to really prepare that burr for removal, then drag the edge through some soft wood to remove the burr and then stone strop 2 times per side give or take depending on how much pressure you use to clean up the edge from getting the burr ripped off instead of shearing it off. in a perfect world we would all have every stone out there, but finances and storage say we probably shouldnt. but you would not go wrong with the water stone if you decide to keep it.
Great video! I am getting this JB8 stone today. I see lots of references here and there about the Norton (fine) India stones. Do I also need a fine India stone for any special reason (would be generally for knives/chisels - *maybe* also a D2 steel Benchmade) ?
the india fine stone is a great stone. it is about the same grit rating as the crystolon fine, but is much harder, so while it wont wear as fast or become uneven or glazed as quickly, it takes longer to dress and maintain. so if you are heavy handed, or sharpen small edges like chisels or small pointed tools like lathe bits, it might be a good stone to consider.
@@joecalton1449 Thanks Joe. They are cheap enough that I might buy an India just to try and compare. Besides, most people would probably agree that there's no way a guy could ever have too many stones lol.
Is norton crystolon coarse/fine combo good for harder steel? Like for thinning a japanese knife for example?
it is my understanding that the only common stones that are harder than silicon carbide {which is what the crystolon stones are made out of} are diamonds. my crystolon stones have sharpened everything I have put in front of them including carbide lathe bits. so you should not have a problem sharpening anything with them.
Awesome video!❤
Just don't grab my face so much!😜
I noticed on your other video you buy a lot of diamond stones per year. Have you tried the continuous version? It seemed to last longer for me than the ones that are interrupted. I need to get me some of that sic powder to recondition my medium ceramic stone.
Never mind. I see you own one now.
Winco 12-Inch Fine/Grain Knife Sharpening Stone, Medium, New, Free Ship Brand New $14.23 smaller sizes even lower cost. They are used in food service everywhere.
You have great great great sharpening skills way above the average joe mate.
But yeah great video cant agree more on this.
Dreaming of owning a chinese cleaver from you one day
Haha interesting the video quality is 1080p 50fps I’ve never seen that selection
The tecnique is good but sharpening a standard kitchen knife on a crystolon looks a bit too overkill .
Crystolon would probably be ok with extra hard powder steel.
Beats messing around all day long with a 1000 grit J-NAT stone. Coarse stones make work happen quicker. If you value your time, you want to start coarse. Considering he scraped the edge across a brick, 120 grit Crystolon seems appropriate to start. You could go finer, but you're just wasting time if you've got a coarse stone available.
Stones you might find interesting: www.baryonyxknife.com/bprshst.html
You're right about baby oil - it stinks.