Why MUSCLES can Shorten Your LIFE. How to live longer.
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2023
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Anyone here after Greg Doucette's video? 😂 As a software engineer myself, I lift (naturally of course) and have never felt and looked better in my life. Strength and muscle enables you to do more and enjoy your life more. Highly recommend!
As a software engineer too, I've lifted my whole life. This guy is absolutely delusional or lying which would be worse.
HOW TO COPE WITH SKINNY BODY
Same. I've been lifting for 2.5 years. This guy thinks he knows but he doesn't even know the difference between natural and enhanced. What a failure.
I am "that guy who lifts weights and eats healthy" in my office.
I tell everyone I know more about fitness over programming and Excel combined 😂
Software engineer too. Lifting weights for more than 10+ years naturally .I'm here also after Greg's reaction video.
This video is the reason RUclips needs to bring back the dislike button counter, because I can guarantee this has an insane like/dislike ratio
It has 4k likes and 4.1k dislikes (im using the dislikes extension)
how can I download the extention
@@BrewmasterDonegan
4k likes and 4.5k dislikes as of now
@@BrewmasterDonegan that's because there are a lot of fat-asses and skinny dorks who are cheering this BS on.
I forgot
There was no button. I was going to dislike it.
We are riding a fine line between satire and insanity with this one.
😂
As an Exercise Physiologist I can positively say he's spot-on. This has been obvious to exercise scientists for decades.
@@joelouden6592but for the vast majority he isn't differentiating between pro bodybuilders and your average Joe. Realistically it's the abuse of PEDs and genetics that lead to young deaths predominantly, not some 21 year old hitting the gym 4x a week naturally.
@joelouden6592 If you honestly watched this video and thought "yeah that sounds reasonable" then no you are not an "exercise physiologist." Saying that women lifting weights will deepen their voice? Really? Pure stupidity
@@joelouden6592 Um... no it hasn't. You're either lying or were educated by the same people who brought us "men can be women and vice versa."
As a 17 year old who hits the gym and recently graduated from being overweight, I'd say having mucles is better than not having any at all
Dont listen to this geek
Just keep going he is talking nonsense
Lol you are born in 2006 you have no clue
When you're 37 you'll know what he's talking about. Enjoy your muscles now because they'll just make you feel tired and sluggish in middle age. The problems don't start until after your body stops developing around the mid-20s to 30.
@@joelouden6592why would a body have a muscle building mechanism if muscles are as you say harmful? There isn't a single study that can prove natural muscle building directly causes life threatening health issues.
Can you teach us your secrets on how you've so effectively reduced your muscle mass?
😂
Ronnie Coleman and so many are ending up getting fcked up trying to go beastmode. He's encouranging exercising and health, is the amounts of supplements and steroids your putting on your heart and muscles just to maintain a certain kind of lifestyle, and how much people invest money on their bodies making these supplement business wealthier. I lift weights 3x & cardio 3x a week and keep everything in moderation......If your in your 50s still tanning and going clubbing still looking for pussay, and up top of that sniffing coke trying hard to compete with youngsters, you really need to slow the phuk down taking it up the arse with these roids.
dont eat properly
💀😂
(as a millionaire)
Ofcourse this dude is going to outlive all of us by siting on his chair all day.
😂
Yeah, He s not going to. Not eating enough, being a whole day by the computer, sitting, and being anorexic shortens life wayyyyyy more than working out daily-WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR HEALTH AND HEARTH.
House cats outlive outdoor by a significant margin
@@Silphwave maybe just maybe because the cats outside get deseases and dont get consistant food?
@@Silphwave becausue the house cat can get food, doesnt catch every desease? can live in a clean place and gets checked from time to time from a professional
Great better stay all day sitting in front of a computer, what a great example of yours 👍👍
I have a colleague who is overwheight , his doctor literally told him if he doesn't lose weight he will literally die because he had also heart problems, he started working out every day and now he is fit and in shape and his health problems went away
That's wonderful news. But the this guy's talking about excessive muscle mass, not overall fitness.
@@joelouden6592 no he's not. He's talking about "excess" muscle in general! The guy's an uneducated dope.
@@joelouden6592 I don't think he is though because in this video he is comparing data relating to professional bodybuilders to just regular weight training. Like it's not surprising professional bodybuilders die early because of the unnatural muscle mass and PED usage but somebody who goes to the gym say 4x a week and does healthy cardio too is by far healthier than a person who does nothing at all
@@JerseyJake98 Yes, but even high muscle mass from a lifetime of natural lifting is still a heavy burden on the body's vital systems. At 250 pounds and 6' 1.5" with only 12% bodyfat I felt terrible unless I was sitting. I was exhausted all of the time, would overheat at slight exertion if it was over 70°, my joints ached, got winded easily, etc. Lifters on steroids at least have the benefit of a constant adrenaline release to counteract the fatigue of being large.
@@joelouden6592 Well yeah being 250 at 12% bodyfat sounds horrible. Thats going too far in my opinion, I started at 5'10 305 pounds and now I'm 5'10 190 around 18-20% bodyfat. I feel 100x better than I did before with more muscle mass but also enough healthy fat weight as well. My bloodwork is night and day
The whole video derives conclusions from PRO bodybuilders and applies them to regular people who train either to get fit, loose weight or just to compensate for sedentary lifestyle. Values of regular training are immensely greater comparing to not exercising at all.
I agree. The average person will benefit greatly with moderate amount of resistance training. The pro builders tend to take their workouts to the extreme.
@@midnightsnack1306it's not really the workouts as much as it is the combination of anabolics and especially, constantly stacking diuretics as you get ready for peak week for a show. Clenbuterol is freaking awful for your heart man and your body quickly builds a tolerance to it so you need to up the dose week in and week out for 8-12 weeks going into a show and now you're totally electrolyte depleted with a ton of stress on your heart from the inhaled steroids and what does your heart need to continue beating? Electrolytes to continue providing the ionic charge
I am a suprised a man of this intelect would realease a video like this
You obviously didn’t watch the video. He provide evidence for his views and you yourself are jumping to conclusions lol
@@rejectsatanism4617His evidence was cherry picked on some cases and mostly false in others. For example , he showed a picture of Joe Linder and said despite how healthy he looked, he died building muscle. Joe Kinder was notorious for being at a far below average body fat percentage and for abusing performance enhancing drugs.
As someone who comes from family of doctors, can tell you this is more aimed at steroid abusers than natural lifters. Some of my mom's best patients are lifetime natural lifters with great resting heart rates as opposed to most patients with her practice. Your body has almost a natural "limit" that prevents you from unsustainable muscle size, after 5-6 years you can only put on 1/2 a lb. of muscle a year, give or take. Your body has systems in place to make sure it stays sustainable on a physiological level. When we get into massive bulks/cuts to "make" your body grow is when there seems to be more health-related issues.
This ^^^^ .. it’s all coming from supplement industry that isn’t heavily regulated
yeah he has the right to share his opinion but doctors are more convincing and professional
Just don’t do stupid things. Your body’s wisdom can’t handle “brain wisdom”.
For those of us who don't have medical knowledge or connections what is a good resting heart rate, stopping point and reasonable amount of muscle?
@@currydong1640doctors are a joke
how did you become a programmer with this level of information literacy? is it really that easy?
Lol, why doesnt this have more likes
I know right 😂
One of the best comment
It is, at Google at least.
Underrated comment fr
This video is the prime example of narcissists who overestimate their intelligence because they are good at one specific thing.
Yeah I diffently get narastic vibes from him
He's an Asian FOB (fresh off the boat). Born and raised in his Asian country but moved to the West and thinks he's smarter and better than his host country's people. The FOB asians also throws his fellow Asians under the bus especially the Asians born abroad (out of jealousy due to their better assimilated than FOB asians).
@@HaHaHaHaHallthetime Asian FOB (Fresh Off The Boat) are usually like that. I bet he probably will give English lessons to Americans or Aussies even though he has that horrendous Chinese language.
gymbros are so GAY
The problem arises when influencers talk about things they don't know rather than their areas of expertise. Please tell us about artificial intelligence, deep learning, big data and more...but forget this topic that you risk passing for stupid.
"risk"
By tbe time you get a heart attack you will rebember him bro...😂 believe me.
i think you should apply that same axiom to yourself.
It's not the muscles it's the stuff being used to get those muscles.
100% Steroids, TRT therapy, Creatine...Hot Pockets.
Either you did not even watch the video or you did not get it.
If you have big muscles your heart needs to do more to pump your blood into those muscles 24/7.
If you train hard this will stress your heart even more.
Any stress will shorten the lifespan of your heart which means that it will shorten your life.
You don't need a scientist to understand this.
Your body can only recover a certain amount of cells until the systems fails and you are dead.
@@wlord-lr3mpyeah having bigger muscles is going to probably reduce your life expectancy to some degree as it is essentially just putting more mileage on your organs.
But let’s be honest this video was about how muscles are very unhealthy using examples of people abusing steroids. It’s just a bit silly and misguided.
This seems like a bit of an extreme opinion from someone who is terminally online.
@@shintokatana17that’s only if you train to a point where you have so much muscle that it’ll cause health problems. For most naturals getting to that point is almost impossible and training harder only helps their health not hurt it. Unless of course the natural goes on a dirty bull and gains dozens of pounds of fat tissue, which obviously will hurt his health.
But the notion that a natural will hurt their health by exercising is just laughable. The research just doesn’t show that
@@shintokatana17also it’s absolutely not true that any stress will hurt your heart health, as one of the most stressful activity you can do for your heart, I.e. running, actually helps your heart health the most. Idk where you got the notion that stress is bad for your heart. If you mean an increase of weight in the form of muscle will put unneeded stress on your heart, than you can just do cardiovascular activities to increase your overall cardiovascular fitness and health, so that your body can sustain the added weight without any adverse effects. Also like I said before it’s almost impossible for a natural to build so much muscle where it inhibits their heart health.
A tech guy giving us fitness advice is like a chef teaching me how to do heart surgery
well, he has a valid point about bodybuilders who take it to the extreme
@@gLitCheRR44
No he hasnt any point here.
"Taking it to the extreme" is not possible for naturals. Every human has a individual natural limit of possible muscle growth, we call it "genetic maximum". And this genetic maximum starts where it would get unhealthy.
So ergo you can only take your muscle growth to an unhealthy level, if you do drugs.
Nature dont make mistakes.
@@gLitCheRR44 No, the point he should be making is that steroids cause untimely deaths in body builders.
@@gLitCheRR44 The issue is that he using data derived from Pro bodybuilders, a group of people famous for their abuse of PEDs, dehydration, high caffein intake, and extremely low bodyfat levels. this group of people aren't the normal gym goer or athlete.
Counter the arguments, not the person.
I actually believe this. It makes sense. You’re not meant to have big muscles. If you were your body would keep them. End of story. Goodnight.
the optimal body in my belief is something that mario rios promotes and this is the leon edwards build plus a little more fat
Based
yeah seeing as nobody in nature looks like that, why dont people realize that distancing yourself from nature is unhealthy
@@Am-fp7pn what side u on
On the other hand, sedentary lifestyle sitting on the computer all day increases your lifespan by a lot. You can live up to 120 years old that way. 😅
are u serious?
Even if that were true, what life is that?
I’m sure you’re being sarcastic 😂but that’s what some people; who don’t wanna exercise would like to believe 😂
@@franciscoler Yes it increases your bone health, is good for your spine. You don't get neck bend sitting all day, your heart maintains it's size(doesn't atrophy) and gets more efficient, your brain also doesn't atrophy and it's health is in prime condition when you sit all day.
@@Tate525itting is too much, I prefer to lay in bed to stay young and live forever while my peers die young sitting up wasting their blood on keeping straight their spines in defiance of the gravity
Dude weights 105 lbs 😆 Love the mental gymnastics
😂
Bro is afraid of muscle men, cause he has no defense against them xD
He has some valid points, but his interpretation of data is very biased to his own way of thinking. He shows up study in the video where men who don't exercise live longer than men who overdo it, however this dude conveniently ignores that men who exercise moderately live the longest.
@@Tate525right, but to blame the death on “overdoing exercise” is bad faith. That’s the point here. There’s a lot going on in the bodybuilding community outside of “overdoing exercise” that may lead to an early death.
I think something happened to him with a fit guy and decided to make a video
never seen anyone be wrong this badly, little boy tryna cope and tell everyone he's healthier cuz he prolly got bullied in HS when in fact his body will prolly give out in old age cuz he never did any exercise
Prolly of foenem sheesh bruh ong🤣
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what techlead doesn't mention is that heart is also a muscle and it gets stronger and leaner as you exercise. Regular exercise is essential to being healthy, as any doctor or biologist will tell you
He also forgets to mention that muscle plays a critical part in the circulatory system by pushing blood back to the heart. This guy should lose every subscriber he has after this garbage.
and thats because you never see bodybuilders dying out of heart attacks. you are a genius.
He's gone negative about everything.
@@SK-yb7bx techlead's entire schtick is be *negative about everything* but he's not wrong that excess muscle shortens lifespan, the only people who are bothered by this and commenting here are those who have huge muscles, usually people who have made lifting a huge part of their life and don't want to face the fact that they will have shorter lives than if they had a normal amount of muscle...
name 1, just 1 bodybuilder that has even hit 100 years old.... oh yeah, you don't know one.... 🤣
@@PassportBachelor That's true about weight lifters, but the majority of people are out of shape and lacking muscle. Without exercise, the chances of ending up in a wheelchair increases and other problems.
There’s a big difference between regularly going to the gym and being a body builder
I regularly went to the gym for about 19 years i didnt class myself as a bodybuilder but was always told by friends PTs and other bodybuilders that i was a bodybuilder and should compete. I didnt tho i stopped as i got close to my natural peak.
Are you going gym for just put your body picture on your avatars ? What is the point ?
@@-Engineering01- for me i trained because i was skinny and small, it was also to look after my self as i was also picked on in school, then i loved going to the gym so i just did it for fun.
@TheWalkingPotatoe the point is... he worked hard on his body, he loves his body and wants to show it off. Maybe he likes the attention also. Or maybe he's just a potato lover like you and wants to share his fries with you. 🍟
This video is about body building but it shouldn't take away from the fact that exercising regularly contributes to positive cardiovascular health and longevity. Even small increases in exercising each day are tied to longevity according to conventional medical studies.
I'd like to offer a respectful critique. The study used in the Men's Health article you cited actually came to the conclusion that exercise decreased relative risk for all causes of mortality. They synthesized data from 8 different studies, many of which did not have reliable (or any in some cases) data on minutes/week of exercise. Therefore, their findings on risk at levels of exercise above 140 minutes/week have a very low confidence, by their own admission in their paper (they state that findings for this area of the data is unclear and would require more data to produce valuable results).
I figured that you might want to know that, as it does contradict one of more central elements of your stance.
I would be expecting a response 🎉from you sooner on the a bove di gits_
This video changed my life. This programmer who studied first aid has figured it out and put all of the scientist who have published on this to shame. I hope he is right and that gyms get shut down and legally restricted the way the tobacco industry has been as they are clearly more deadly than cigarettes.
Lol😂
Not just gyms. Any type of muscle-building exercise should be made illegal, or at least heavily taxed. Even walking can be dangerous, as it can potentially stimulate growth in the calves. This is why using an electric wheelchair should be mandatory in public.
so many people here butthurt over an opinion
LOL
@@gLitCheRR44 When you have an audience of his size, some will actual take this as fact. He is spreading dangerous information and needs to be put in his place.
This is due to heavy steroid use in the fitness industry more than anything.
I honestly don’t believe going to the gym and building muscle naturally will reduce your life span significant margin. Unless your diet and cardiovascular fitness takes a dive.
Arguably the kind of exercises people do in the gym are not natural.
More natural are things like running, climbing and carrying stuff.
There is truth to it that activating mTor, your bodies signal to grow, is a double edged sword, and does decrease lifespan. This is why fasting increases lifespan, or simple protien restriction increases lifespan. Lots of protien, specifically amino acids cystien and methionine, will activate growth pathways that shorten lifespan.
@@luciengrondin5802 I often see fit old people say they did marathons in their youth. Like Bernie Sanders.
this is just cope for the nerds to stay weak lol
@@asdfghjkl-jk6mu I kind of agree with you there
It's always that nerdy geeky dude that can't do 10 push ups, that has the strongest opinions on why you shouldn't stay fit and build muscles.
using character assassination to prove a point, huh?
@@WilliamBrwn do you take fitness advice from fat people? Do you go to therapy to a mentally ill therapist? Do you let a nerd that stares at a screen all day tell you that you shouldn't build muscle?
@@pavlenikolic3555Got him there 😂
I mean, i was 55 had heart issues as well as declining overall health but my doctor said exercise regularly or even go to the gym. Almost 2 years passed, feeling great, doctor said my health improved significantly.
The same thing the guy said that shortens your life is the same thing that actually imrpoved my life. Crazy. I rather listen to medical professionals in things related to health and listen to programming and innovation to this guy than the other way around
Finally someone who gets it.
Former bodybuilder here...no steroids. My bmi used to be 27(overweight)...but I was lean. I had a hard time running a mile. I did cardio every day too.
A year later on a physical check up my doctor gave me a pass on my 27 bmi because he said I was lean and muscular -- until he listened to my heart. My heart was not healthy despite being big and lean. My high protein diet and 200lbs of muscle on my 5'11 frame was slowly killing me.
I immediately lost weight and stripped away all my muscle. I started doing more cardio -- biking, swimming, walking.
I now weigh 150lbs and my heart & lungs are excellent. BMI is 20.
The extra weight...whether muscle or fat will shorten your lifespan. Asians are #1 in world for longevity. Many Asians are not weightlifters. They are small and slim -- which is normal.
America is notorious for celebrating MASS and BIG things. Big houses, big trucks, big bodies. It is cr*p.
Muscles are not doing you any favors in terms of a healthy heart.
Your heart is the size of your fist. Do you think a small heart is going to support 200-300lbs of mass?😂 Its unrealistic.
I know of NO bodybuilders or weightlifters who lived to 100 years of age.
A few lived into their 90s.
There are at least 1000 asians who are centenarians.
Look at the data.Those are FACTS.
Also, the medical community does not use a "body composition" analysis to test for health. Instead they use a weight scale and bmi measurement because it works.
Futhermore, a high protein diet and high fat diet taxes your organs such as your kidneys, liver and heart. Another problem with a high protein diet is that protein is not a clean burning fuel. It is because of its nitrogen content -- protein leaves “ashes” when it burns; these toxic nitrogen wastes must be eliminated from the system, taxing the liver and kidneys.
A diet high in fruits, vegetables and whole grains support your heart and immunity. Carbs are high in fiber and vitamins.
I feel way better at a slimmer 150lbs than a muscular 200lbs -- and much healthier too.👍
So you didn't do cardio and then were surprised when your heart couldn't keep up?
@@themyththelegendphilswift3201 No, I did cardio every day. The problem was the extra weight was too much stress on my heart. Weightlifting and high protein diets will shorten life. I dont know many carb heavy, rice heavy, extreme walking asians dying at 50.
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And yes, China leads the pack when it comes to type 2 diabetes, I don't think its genetic, I think that getting most of your calories from white rice is plain unhealthy. @@tz8565
U had me at the start then lost me at medical community uses bmi.😅
@@FreshTopEnd Do you see the medical community using body fat calipers?
you know what else shortens your life? sitting in front of a computer all day.
Thank you Dr. Techlead. Please do one about obesity, since that will actually apply to many viewers, unlike pro bodybuilding.
Yeah, and one about how not eating enough and being anorexic like this Dr Techkid can shorten your lifespan too.
The Lizzo fans will retaliate and if anyone of them sits on this guy, he is done forever.
now a tech guy who cherrypicks his studies and lives a sedentary lifestyle will give us lessons on how to live longer
w pfp
@@comebacktour5449 🗿🗿🗿
Just like I expected, all the insecure gym copers are out here insulting this 46 year old man.
fucking hate copers bro
This conclusion is misleading. Correlation is not causation. Regular exercise is good for your heart health, including weightlifting and bodybuilding. Putting strain on your heart from exercise, at a healthy level, makes your heart stronger and healthier. The bodybuilders who are dying young from heart failure are most likely taking high levels of anabolic steroids (2g+ per week), which gives them super-physiological muscle growth that would otherwise be impossible. If you don't take PEDs then there is a limit to how much muscle you can grow, based on your natural testosterone level. Also, studies show that steroid use causes heart muscles to grow along with the other muscles in the body, as well as thickening and enlargement of the heart muscles. Additionally, they can cause increased blood pressure. So, all of these things combined (higher load on the heard due to increased body weight, higher blood pressure, enlarged/thickened heart), will undoubtedly cause increased chance of heart failure.
Those women you were showing are absolutely using anabolic steroids. Weightlifting, without PEDs, will not increase testosterone in women to a level that will give them that look or those side effects. Ladies reading this, lifting heavy weights will not make you look like those women, and will not increase your testosterone levels to a level that will cause any of the issues mentioned in the video. However, if you decide to experiment with anabolic steroid then those side effects will certainly be a risk. Just don't do it, stay natural.
There is a difference between body building and moderate weight training. You should be fit and strong into your old age for a long life.
There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between unnatural bodybuilding and bodybuilding. Go check natural body building competitions. They still train very hard they muscles but don't die because THE ARE NOT USING DRUGS TO BUILD MUSCLE.
Someone once said, live life to the fullest not longest
That's the purpose of moderate exercise is supposed to be. Exercising moderately will delay any diseases if they will arrive at all and push their manifestation closer to the date of death.
Did he died?
Bro thinks because he’s in tech he knows about muscles 🤣☠️
This guy really here discouraging people to exercise and better themselves 😂😂
Partly true. Muscle does protect your organs and bones as you age. The problem is abuse of steroids, growth hormones, meat and caffeine overconsumption, lack of anaerobic fitness.
He’s not wrong. Big muscles are bad for longevity. Bodybuilders abuse steroids, which raises cardiovascular risk. Even I lift lighter weights now and focus more on cardiovascular health
NEVER TALK ABOUT BODYBUILDING AGAIN🔥🔥🔥
Imagine people listening to a tech vlog to get health advice. My MD doesn’t tell me what to do when my laptop breaks.
You can bang your laptop on this guy's head.
@@raulkoren6512 lol hahahaha
Being extreme in anything is not good in most things. Regular moderate exercise to compensate for a otherwise sedentary lifestyle (office jobs etc) seems to do the trick. I knew a farmer who was strong as powerlifter, but he didn't have huge muscles like the gym goers. Many people say that farmers and physical workers tend to be strong without having muscles show that much. We've been tricked by social media and big companies, that beauty = health.
This.
Tricked by social media that beauty = health? Which country you live in, in the US we were being taught from elementary school how unhealthy models in magazines were. Unless you're talking about pre-facebook pre-youtube.
Yeah they make it industry and everything change
stay average
Also if you can't use those muscles all day long like a farmer or physical worker then whats the point? One guy in the comment section spoke to how one of his kung fu students had a lot of muscles but couldn't twist their torso to do a certain move to save their life. Once they dropped weight training to focus on kung fu, the person shedded alot of excess muscles and became one of the best students.
As a bodybuilder, I would say there’s a good deal of truth to this, but it’s not the whole story. The thing is, PED’s thicken the blood and enlarge the heart, and also raises blood pressure significantly. Having a lot of muscle will actually make you live longer, within reason. When you add too much, you tax your heart the same as obesity does. I think people should try to get as much muscle on their frame as naturally possible, but should avoid PED’s, stay lean and monitor your blood pressure and Hematocrit with regularity. PED’s cause infertility in both men and women. Lifting naturally does not lower fertility (my wife and I both bodybuild and create babies at a click rate). Steroids are the real killer here, bodybuilding naturally is very healthy. T
It's scary to have to take testosterone as a transguy, but I also had estrogen based cancer. So my body can't have estrogen at all.
Without either hormone, I'm for sure cutting my lifespan short. And more importantly I had no energy at all. Not even to take a shower daily or get up and check the mailbox.
So all I can do is avoid added sugar and white carbs, fried foods, fast foods, etc.
I wear a fitbit and monitor my heart rate.
Even natural weightlifting can be unhealthy if done too much.
@@V.D.22 well if taken to the level where you get Rhabdo or develop body dysmorphia. But you can’t get too big as a natural. You’re just not going to become overly muscular from a health perspective as a natty.
I have never seen so much misinformation in a video
The claims you are making simply aren’t backed up by reality. There is a huge difference between the tools out there doing roids and tons of supplements and those that build muscle naturally. It isn’t exercise and body building that is hurting them - it is steroids and excess supplement use.
I think it's important to differentiate bodybuilding via using exogenous substances to aid in growing muscles and strength vs bodybuilding just by eating normally and lifting weights. Then also, it's important to differentiate normal exercise vs intense training vs intense training over a long period of time. I believe exercise and even lifting weights is healthy as long as you aren't pushing the body to incredible limits. Same goes for marathon running or anything else that puts an immense strain on the body.
Naah mate it's all the same when you can't lift 15 pounds of the ground like the guy in the video.
What is the difference? The only difference is that one pushes his body beyond it's normal limit and suffers faster than someone who does the same thing but stays within their natural limit. They both suffer for no reason, if the exercises done in the gym would have carryover to something actually useful to humans like hunting, then I would agree with you. The only application I can think of in nature for people with overly large* muscles would be slave labor
Quit coping, it's the same, just a different degree of toxicity.
@@saradomim but who says you have to suffer to exercise. I'm saying can you not also do some pushups, some curls, jog for a few minutes without over exertion. All that is considered exercise same as going for a walk after dinner.
nah you're killing yourself all the same
People dont want to hear it, but he is right.
Lets see how CBum does in his 40s
I mean he does have a point. Y’all are misinterpreting his point.
Yes strenuous weight lifting and high caloric intake to support a very muscular body will put more strain on your cardiovascular system. That’s pretty obvious once you even hit your 30s.
Y’all are acting like he’s saying any degree of muscle building is bad. Which he never said. Obviously there should be balance in all things.
Exactly 👍
Muscle is the storage room for energy such as glucose which means you need to maintain a certain amount of muscle in order to be healthy and energetic.
fake news, techlead fact checked and debunked this
“Do a bit of research” he says and he then uses Google to get his answers 😂
of course this is coming from a skinny tech dude who's never stepped fit in a gym
what an interesting way to have an excuse to not exercise
If u state it like that then i could proudly say "breathing oxygen have 100% death rate" 😂😂
Cool story bro, but it's flawed if you don't consider the potential risks associated with experimental injections and their impact on cardiovascular health
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There’s a resin you are an EX Google employee EX Facebook employee 💀
If this isn’t a satire video, then im worried for him
Millionaire’s think they know everything 😂
The fitness regime that would benefit 90% of the population:
- Some mobility and Yoga inspired training, 1 hour sessions, 2-3 times a week
- Regular daily walks after meals at a medium to faster pace
- Elimination of processed foods and drinks, no dirty carbs, sugars, and inflammatory oils.
- Daily mindfulness or meditation practice to reduce anxiety and running thoughts.
But I guess there are no cute girls running around in skimpy clothes promoting that...
You know techlead is about to share some serious thing when there's no "as a millionaire" on his video title...
He is no longer a millionaire
You people can cope all you want by attacking him personally, but he is correct. That's not to say exercise in every form is bad, it's most certainly good in a moderate amount, but pushing yourself (quite literally putting undue stress on your body, think about what this means logically, does it sound healthy to you?) to an abnormal degree will shorten your lifespan. You only need to think about it logically to reach the correct conclusion, but most of you have been programmed to think a certain way when it comes to this topic.
That being said, if you don't care about lifespan or longevity, that's a different story, but you should be aware of the FACTS when it comes to physical stressors on the body. Just think for a few minutes on the most NATURAL way of life for humans. Think tribal times. Think hunter-gatherer. That's the most HEALTHY way of life. Don't be a victim of your programming, or the propaganda you've been fed. Use your brain.
They cant use their Brain, they have to cope.
Zero Science 🤣🤣🤣
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I live in a small village in Kalimantan, here we have a lot of long-lived people, my grandmother is 90 years old, my neighbor is 100 years old and many more, if any of them have professions such as construction workers or anything related to heavy work, they can make sure he doesn't live too long and has a weak old age, I studied in great detail from their lives why they have that, I will summarize it here, none of them lift weights, jog, stay up late, they eat animal and vegetable matter but they not eaters, they are humble, friendly people, have close and intense social relationships, rarely get stressed and it is very difficult to make them angry, not exercising doesn't mean they don't move at all, they move, but the physical activity they do is just natural activity, relatively enjoyable ones like walking on a bicycle cleaning the garden, all activities that don't make you sweat and breathe quickly, I really agree with this video because it matches a lot with the customs that exist in our traditional village, no matter how much debate on social media about whether it is good and the bad thing about sports is that we just want to follow the path of our ancestors which we have actually found, thanks
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as a chemist in healthcare, 35 with a lot of experience in building muscles I see a much greater correlation between working out + stimulant use (mostly pre workout) then simply working out. This would also explain why we have seen an increase in recent decades with all the stimulant / pre workout use. I personally think it's extreme stress + stimulants that creates this.
Exactly your body is already on high gear during the workout. Way to overload the heart with tons of caffeine and unknown compounds found in pre's, the worst idiots are people who are already on gear taking pres, they are trying burn through life faster.
I'm 5'9 158lbs lean lifting since 12 and I never understood why people need pre workout to lift. J lift yall lazy
But "working out" is not "bodybuilding". Bodybuilding is a very weird and unnatural process involving starving yourself and then overeating while simultaneously breaking and building your muscles. The stimulants don't help but I doubt they are the only problem with bodybuilding.
What does chemistry have to do with healthcare? Absolutely nothing. If you look at a chart of the US population compared to all other western countries, the US has the worst life expectancy, and why is that? Because the majority of the US relies on pharmaceutical chemistry. So if you think you're doing "health" care with chemistry, you've been brainwashed.
Well then either regular over the counter supplements/stimulants are dangerous or practically everyone who works out takes something outside of the regular powders and caffeine.
You do realize you still need to carry decent amount of muscle mass to stay healthy, maybe being relatively lean packing mostly muscle with weight being closer to bmi is the best option. Nobody should bulk to body builders levels, unless they are really trying to be dead by their 50's or 60's.
how are people actually taking what he says seriously, dude's pulling in so much interaction and exposure
food also shortens lifespan, especially eating many time throughout the day. Also resistance training is one of the best ways to reduce cognitive decline as you age
I would be expecting a response 🎉from you sooner on the a bove di gits_
The people who are dying without the use of peds are doing low carb diets which leads to chronicle elevated cortisol and elevated free fatty acids in the blood stream which both damage the heart. Otherwise strengthening your muscles isn't necessarily bad as long as they have enough glycogen.
You knlw that your body produces glycogen from proteins? Literally AS MUCH as it needs
Yes, you're absolutely right. Muscle and cars attract men. Finally someone said it.
He s not going to live long. Not eating enough, being a whole day by the computer, sitting, and being anorexic shortens life wayyyyyy more than working out daily-WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR HEALTH AND HEARTH.
do you think a women would find him more attractive than 90% of fitness influencers
@@comebacktour5449 absolutely not. Hes asian, not particularly good looking, small, skinny, nerd, and not active enough throughout the day. Rich is the only compliment you can give him. On the other hand, fitness influencers are mostly above 5'8", good looking, active, healthy- not talking about steroids here and also pretty wealthy- they re influencers.
This guy is a COOKBOOK
You have your computers, we have the gym, stay at your desk and we’ll stay in the gym
Cool😀just know that he’ll outlive you.
Mix of half-truths and misconceptions.
What is true :
1- the bigger the individual (animal or human) is compared to the rest of the the species, the shorter the lifespan.
This is why big dogs live shorter lives than small dogs.
So if you're increasing your size through bodybuilding or obesity, you're reducing your lifespan proportional to your size increase.
2- Almost all Bodybuilders use PEDs / steroids. This is the biggest culprit in shortening lifespan. You become way bigger and cause health problems.
3- Overtraining is real and bodybuilders are competitive so they try to outilft each other, improving their stats but end up putting too much strain on their bodies.
On the other hand, the truth is also that :
- Regular exercise extends your lifespan.
Training 30min to 1h daily improves health and lengthens lifespan by 10 years on average AND improves quality of life in old age.
Recent research shows a decrease in risk of Alzheimer's and Dementia in old age by 90% which is HUGE.
Exercise is a natural medicine against pretty much all illnesses including reducing cancer risk.
Lastly, the Heart is a muscle too.
Doing Cardio is what is MOST important in increasing health.
Bodybuilders who DON'T do cardio, are at risk of putting too much strain on their weak heart to provide bloodflow to their big muscles.
The myth that "cardio kills gains" is, in my opinion, the biggest reason, along with steroid use of health risks in body builders.
So do a lot of cardio, don't do Steroids, don't overtrain, eat healthy and you'll increase lifespan instead of decreasing it.
Also, I've not seen a SINGLE study in this video that confirms the claims that fitness overall lowers lifespan.
You just have to do things correctly.
This video is at the very least misleading and at worse is disinformation.
Marathon runners and professional cyclists are also known to die prematurely, movement is good but stress is unnecessary and always damaging.
I will continue to work out with balance like I always do. 2-3 a week to be strong enough. But most of the people you referred to were bodybuilders and so don’t think most want to look like that😅.
Bodybuilders also stay below 10% body fat, which is quite unhealthy. I got to 10% from 16% and got 2 consecutive illnesses, the next worse than the last. It stresses the body, certainly, but as long as one stays above 10% body fat, typically it is better to have as much muscle as possible.
Though it is true that the smaller body you have, you may live longer. Dwarves routinely live longer for instance, as do women, with less mass to maintain. However, quality of life is also a concern.
Building strength and some mass is highly important, as one of the primary means of death when you age is falling. Muscle atrophy occurs when you get older, so if you maintain more, as you say, medium muscles, then, much less likely to fall and die.
But. A normal person can push and build as much muscle as possible and be healthier than otherwise.
Bodybuilders in particular cut down to 2-4% body fat, and at that point, no, def not healthy. Immune system is shot to hell. No energy.
Not counting the steroids.
Definitely not as much as possible, as this can be waaay too much.
This video is such a parody of logic and thought that i cannot even comprehend the mental gymnastics required to pull this video off. You sir are a genius troll
Don't compare apples to oranges : the studies applies to pro bodybuilders not to regular guys going to the gym even if there is nothing safe 100%.Do you know a hobby that is 0% risk free ?
The muscle degratation after 40 gets faster and faster. Sure you might live longer if you don't keep up your muscle but atleast you will be able to walk.
Ikr imagine being old and not able to walk or talk and being sick year round that’s just sad and worse than dying
For those who cannot see the dislike ratio, it is 4.5k likes to 8.5k dislikes. It should tell you the public opinion about this nonsense.
It's doesn't tell the "public opinion." It's just people coming from Greg which has 2M subs. Some of that this guy says is actually true. Body Builders are not a good goal to have if you are concerned about health. Cardio is okay, and being normal looking is okay.
A tech lead giving fitness advice is like an accountant giving advice to construction workers on how to construct a building 😂😂
So true, anorexic kid that googled up a few things about bodybuilders on steroids, and is now an expert. He s not going to live long. Not eating enough, being a whole day by the computer, sitting, and being anorexic shortens life wayyyyyy more than working out daily-WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR HEALTH AND HEARTH.
I work out once a week and run three times a week just 5k or less. It’s all you need. Professionals have a vested interest in making you spend every day in the gym but it’s not necessary. Same with running where influencers are doing crazy miles and challenges that are nothing to do with health.
That's true. The truth is between what this video says and what the influencers say and do.
I used to work as a nursing aide at a rehab facility and one man who was at the facility used to run marathons. His resting heart rate was 46 BPM but dude was full on Type 2 diabetic. He was in rehab due to knee replacement surgery. What he told me I still remember to this day, "Just because you can do it, it doesn't mean it's good for you." He's talking about his marathons. He must've ran about 100 to 150 (not including the training that goes with it).
Professional marathon runners median age of death was 41.5 years. Fifty percent (14/28) of deaths occurred in participants less than 45 years old..
Any official statistics or studies?
@@nick_yt23 yes
Running kills don't run and live longer
@@pauls464 name of the study or link?
I used to have very high blood pressure (190/100) and was able to lower it back to 130/80 through regular walking and weight training. Training is apparently very bad for the heart I guess.
really? no meds? How long?
i mean did u have it at those levels and took it to lower it back
The real question is "who really wants to live that long?"
People who have a good life.
People who are biochemically healthy and mentally well.
Need Greg Doucette to take a look at this😂😂
Brother the reason the heart fails the pro bodybuilders because of the PED abuse.
I need to see his reaction also 😂
@@sox1159 he wasn't. He only said we don't have the right to laugh at him because he had his obvious reasons. He said he's a lil guy himself and he would do it even if it cost millions BUT ONLY IF it didn't come with all the complications of limb lengthening surgery. Which means basically he's saying don't do it.
Who came here from Coach Greg's video?
I once say a 70 years old doing vigorous body exercises and I thought that body exercises and movement, the idea of the more movement you do the more your blood moves around the body and it leads to a healthy body. but it turns out that you don't need to do exercises for too long. and you don't need to eat too many. so yeah idk, I'll just try to do what I think is correct for me for now. I'm a guy who sets all day so maybe some movement is actually not bad for me.
Strength is the enabler of balance and mobility. For middle age and beyond, it the best predictor of a long and healthy life. I also believe you were referring to bulk body building not necessarily resistance training in conjunction with aerobic exercises & healthy diet as a lifestyle package.
East Asians are not strong, they are small and skinny, yet they have longer lifespans than their first-world western equivalents.
Exactly. The factors are unfortunate conflated.
20-mile daily bicycle commuter, and a physical job. Occasional pushups and pullups. Think I'm set for naturally muscular longevity
20 miles of biking daily? I don't believe you man.
@@aromata120 miles is nothing
@@aromata1 20 miles is only 90 minutes. It's what a beginner cyclist would do.
@@fran2911 as a retired cat 3 road bike racer, cycling 20 miles a day is nothing. With a nice aero road race bike, you can almost ride as fast as a car. I would keep up with 35mpg cars on highway roads. When I would ride with my team, we would do 80-120 mile rides on the weekends with 12,000 feet of climbing in the hills. When your a fast rider, 20 miles goes before you even start having fun.
sound like my neighbour...suddenly had a heart attack while cycling and died
I wonder if he is figuring in all the V related heart deaths in athletes.
He is not saying, obesity is good, he is not saying no muscles is good. The point of the video is mostly against fitness industry and fitness influencers, and fitness misinformation about muscles and stuff.
People really needs to think a little more before speaking (or writing)
Exactly
Yep, people got in their emotions real fast before even watching.
If you train for strength with low reps and don't take PEDs you won't have "huge muscles" (you will have... medium size muscles) but you will have stronger bones, tendons, and heart. As Mark Rippetoe says, "stronger people are harder to kill and are more useful in general". Also, "Humans are not physically normal in the absence of hard physical effort".
TechLead how many push ups can you do? I saw a firefighter study that says those who can do 40+ push ups live longer, the more the better and the returns tend to finally cap out after 40th rep. So people need atleast intermediate level muscles strength for longer life.
i bet Techlead cant do 5
He s not going to live long. Not eating enough, being a whole day by the computer, sitting, and being anorexic shortens life wayyyyyy more than working out daily-WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR YOUR HEALTH AND HEARTH.
The thing is that you're extremely unlikely to build an unhealthy amount of muscle naturally while staying lean no matter how hard you train (moreover, training too hard is not only unhealthy in itself but also detrimental for muscle growth). It's an open secret that pro bodybuilding rests on PEDs but sports and fitness industry in general are riddled with obfuscated drug abuse, too. On the other hand, maintaining muscle mass withing natural physioligical limits along with healthy weight is beneficial to one's health.
As a CS student, I struggle to believe you were able to become a software engineer with these reasoning skills. The only explanation I can think of is you were intentionally being misleading to get more publicity. Or maybe I'm just underestimating how little the average person knows about fitness.
Some 'rare' blood clotting injection doesn't help either
Don't be beta like this guy, work out without steroids.
Be strong, feel good, be capable of defending yourself and loved ones.
This is gonna sound crazy but as someone who lifts weights 5 times a week and a has a good amount of muscle mass, I believe what he's saying. If you meet anyone who has lived over 100 they're always very skinny and they usually don't work out nor did they when they were younger. If you look at blue zones like Okinawa they're sedentary people who are very thin. The ultimate factor in long term health will be diet and BMI. Despite that, I don't believe it's worth quitting the gym by no means, especially if you're a man. You should be fit, capable, and ready at all times. Just look at history, if any nation had decided to ditch physical fitness they would've been wiped off the map when another country comes and invades. So even if exercise may be detrimental and muscle bad in the long run, some things are worth it and as a man you should strive for peak sustainable physical fitness. No man who ever made history was chasing the goal as living as long as possible
Did you forget that we live in the 21st century? If you ever actually find yourself in a war, the muscles won't really help when getting blown up by a drone or shot by artillery.
That’s why what I do is basically calisthenics, where you can’t lift more than the weight of your body. No steroids and other unnecessary supplements. Yes, I’m not bulk, but I have a lean body, which is natural and more than enough.
here is a secret: you dont need steroids or unnecessary supplements for weightlifting either.
I do think there is some truth to this. PEDs / HRT aside, there is a good topic that was brought up about protein intake. There are researches backed by Harvard Health / National Institute of Health that high intake of protein puts stress on the kidneys. Then there are youtubers like Dr Layne Norton (doctor and a bodybuilder) that says eating high intakes of protein have no effect on the kidneys. It's tough to know the right sources nowadays but I'll put my trust in Harvard Health. But I think for the most part, moderate strength training is good for the longevity of our muscles.
I think it depends on the source, red meat is pretty healthy overall, but if you take whey with a lot of chemicals in it, can be damaging, people forget whey contains a lot of conservancies
it depends on protein source
A lot of cope from Gymcels in the comments
@JohnsonMJ0 how is it healthy, you are stressing your body, it’s completely unnatural
Yup. There is a healthy amount of muscle mass to carry, whatever your natural limit is from bodyweight exercises. Using artificial stressors like modern machines and weight plates we didn't evolve for can definitely have some overlooked consequences.
@@byzantinehoney3384 So we were born in this world to live a sedentary lifestyle our entire life? How do you think our ancestors survived?
@@khaffit3527 our ancestors didn’t lift manmade metal in a jungle gym they conserved their energy for hunting etc. do you see any animals in nature unnaturally stressing themselves out aging their bodies to put on useless muscle which stresses out your heart ??
@@byzantinehoney3384 Thanks for being unfathomably based here 🙏
I can asurre you guys and gals the more muscles you have the shorter life span you have, I never do exercise what do you do exercise for?
its not just muscles , its all forms of sport done to above average levels, most of the footballers and runners are the first to need wheel chair .
The doctor credited for inventing jugging as form of excise in 70s died of heart failure in his 60s.
A wise man said, any form of exercise you cannot do at 80 years old, is not good to do on regular basis.
You can lift weights at 80 just not vodyb
Just not bodybuilding
Your comment is a prime example of a lack of understanding of the term "correlation does not equal causation". The doctor who invented jogging and died of heart failure at 60 have nothing to do with each other unless it can be undeniably confirmed that the heart failure was due to jogging. He could have have genetic predisposition to heart failure, maybe he was eating a poor diet or required a drug for some illness which had a side effect. There are so many possibilities especially with 1 person as an example that you saying that he died of heart failure brings absolutely no value to your point.
Lol, Techlead found a reason already not to hit the gym.
Lol which explains why the channel is so depressing