Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr: The Review (2018)
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- Warhammer 40,000: Inquisitor - Martyr is an imperfect game that gets just as many things wrong as it gets right, but on balance, I really enjoyed my time with it, and I really respect what Neocore have done here.
Timestamps for your easier perusal:
1:36 - What type of game is this?
2:04 - Why is this game so slow?
3:20 - Character movement speed
3:42 - Why do enemies have so much health?
5:06 - The Cover system
7:19 - The way combat 'feels' and animations
8:30 - Class design
11:13 - Weapon design
12:08 - Presentation
12:32 - Sound design
13:21 - Game systems
15:46 - The big problem with coop
17:41 - Summary and verdict
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For anyone coming to this review in 2019(if you can find this buried comment) they dropped their huge 2.0 update for the game that fixes basically every single problem brought up in the video. The game is much faster now by a lot. Still slower than Diablo, but it's no longer feels like everything is playing at half speed. They've overhauled basically the entire loot system similar to loot 2.0 in Diablo 3. They've raised the level cap and improved the leveling experience. There are a lot of other changes too. All the positives in this video are still there and everything else has been massively improved. They've also released an expansion on PC, but it isn't on console yet as of 10/20/19 but it adds a new class and different ways to gear up at endgame.
Zer0Hour17 mate, I wish I’d seen this 5 mins ago. I ended up buying a different game on sale, now I’m kicking myself! Oh well, next time I guess.
Hey there, thanks for the update! Do you know if the campaign can now be played coop too? A friend and I are thinking about getting it on sale, and this would be good to know
Critical Ravi yes the campaign is now fully co op
@@peterf9006 Awesome, thanks very much!
What about the sound design? Or lack of co-op for the campaign?
I really wish they did a sequel to Warhammer 40k Space Marine
Nakatomi Uk you and so many more haha
that was the best over 200 hours just killing hords and unlocking every armor set. although i always used the damage armor set.
I want a dawn of war 40k total war style!
yes! was really suprised on how good it was!
Me too.
Now this is what a review looks like. Good and bad. Strengths and weaknesses. Keep doing reviews Skillup they are hands down the best on RUclips. Also I think I’ll actually pick this game up now
DutchYT the complete opposite of IGN reviews. IGN is a joke
same, but i also want outward
I honestly never thought you would’ve given coverage to martyr and so happy to see you did!
I had a tonne of fun playing it. I'm a sucker for aRPG :P
Skill Up honestly though i cant tell if i would play it if not for the 40k ip at the same time it’s the 40k IP restrictions that made the combat the way it is
@@SkillUp Will you be having an in advance go with the next Darksiders?
I'm stunned with the review. Seriously. I found out about this game last week and didn't find any useful video or review. I like how you compare many aspects of the game to different games. I played (still play from season to season) Diablo III, and the comparisons really worked for me. It's very useful to have something I've played to compare to games I didn't play. And the way you tackled each topic separately and at the same time the transition between them was natural. The timecodes on the description were really good. I'm definately going to subscribe.
You're pumping out high quality reviews pretty fast! Keep up the good work!
Thank you. This review is exactly what i was looking for. I think the lacknof campaign co-op makes this a wait-for-sale game for me but i do want to get it.
Great review. Convinced me to buy it, as it's on sale right now, and I love both ARPGs and W40K, but I always thought Diablo 3 was a little _too much_ of everything. Trillions of damage in split seconds, extremely fast paced, almost no tactics involved in endgame, it's all just about speed and efficiency. So seeing 3 to 4 digit damage numbers pop up and the decelarated combat pace really appealed to me.
Thanks for this great review, very well done!
The problem with a high speed massacre in this case is the lore unfriendly aspect of it. An inquisitor who just melts through squads of chaos space marines and demons is not a 40k thing. I think history has proven that you apsolutely need to make 40k games feel like 40k, and nothing else. Because the main audience are 40k fans. DoW 3 for example.
Martyr isn't perfect, but i'm glad they didn't compromise here.
Excuse me but Eisenhorn (as of Ravenor novels) melts through dreadnoughts.
I played Dawn of War Dark Crusade and DOW 2 Retribution, not knowing much of the lore. Had fun in both of them. In the latter, Inquisitor Adrastia can stun Chaos Space Marines and Lord Commisar Bern can beat a marine to a pulp with a power fist.
On Hard difficulty.
It's Warhammer 40k; it's silly. Make it fun, is what I say.
Squirrel Games yea but Eisenhorn (praise be his name) had an enslaved warp demon in his pocket giving him cheat codes. You don't.
Ya that's were warhammer chaosbane kind of sucks.
@@SquirrelGamez eisenhorn is a fuckin hardass bigtime. Just finished hereticus. Sad book
Well, I know I will never play this, but I really enjoy your reviews/discussions, and I appreciate that you dabble in all different sorts of games and experiences. Keep it up!
I gotta say, thanks for making this review. When I started getting into 40k recently (largely thanks to the TTS series) I was looking for a game to accompany that budding fandom.
Most of your points hold up, but I've personally found some exceptions. It's entirely possible that some of these things were added after you published it, but in the current state of the game as I've stepped into it:
- the pace: turns out you don't have to be slow at all, there's an entire Movement skill tree that makes you MUCH faster and shortens cooldowns by a huge amount
- the "slow" and deliberate pace of the attacks and animations, enemies included, are at just the right speed to allow for responsive countermeasures, such as blocking at the right time with shields (blocking is timing-based, not held like in other games, making it more of a skill-based evasion), halting a large attack's windup with a cc or aimed shot to the appropriate limb from the rifles, etc
- these pace choices and making speed something to actually deliberately spec into make for a very satisfying dynamic, turning it into a conscious tool rather than some inescapable bog-standard, picked out from many
Overall it's really struck a chord with me, because everywhere I look in it I find myself going, "Yeah, this is what I would have liked to see, were I in a position to make design calls on something like Diablo."
Fantastic fair review, cheers for the hard work you put into this and the plethora of other vids you upload. cheers !
You should re-review this, after the 2.0 update and the expansion, it's way better :D
Do you know anything about local coop on PS4? Diablo 3 like with both players keeping their progress?
@@grzegorzkoziczak8864 the couch coop aspect had the second player or guest account choose a burner class with pre determined gear and stats. No progress or gear progression, only for the host or player one.
@@cheezburgrproduction Thanks. Shame though.
@@grzegorzkoziczak8864 its better you didnt find out after wasting the better part of an hour creating accounts just to not need them, the multiplayer online also introduces the worst bugs in the game imo
I hear this comment a lot to reviewers about many games. I really don't know why this is content they avoid. I think a content creator could build a name solely on reviewing games that are closer to their final form.
You really are the greatest game reviewer on RUclips. I started following you back when The Division came out for some tips & tricks. While you were awesome back then too, you've really grown into something impressive and someone who deserves serious respect and recognition.
As far as this game goes, I'm a huge fan of ARPG and just about anything Isometric, so I was most likely going to give this game a shot regardless, but your video definitely was the nail in the coffin. I appreciate that you talk about the bad in games just as much as the good, it gives us a more realistic expectation. Thanks for all you do, and keep it going man.
Excellent, clear, well thought through and well explained. Came across as very fair and openminded. Thank you!
You should read up on all the background lore in 40K. You would enjoy it. It's by far the best setting I've ever encountered.
Calwell321 fucking upvote this!
To be fair there are A LOT of books and novels and games in Warhammer 40k. But agreed it's by far the best setting out there. Everyone is an asshole and wants to kill each other :)
Star Wars fans will tell you - they want to live in that Galaxy.
Mass Effect fans will tell you - they want to live in that Galaxy.\
Warhammer 40k fans will tell you - Oh God please no, NOOOOOO. :D
cl1cka
Hear Hear
cl1cka The fact that it has all those books is part of the reason why it's so great. There's so much lore.
uhmmm ok? I am not sure what you mean ?
it plays like grim dawn, slow-paced gameplay, which is something i prefer than the poe clear-speed meta
Xhin
: Same here. Never really been a fan of the super fast-paced stuff. So when the slower pace was mentioned, it was actually a plus in my book.
I like feeling powerful, but being able to nuke the entire screen clear of enemies just boils games down to tedium.
I pass enemies in grim dawn faster then diablo...explosions everywhere lol
is it deep like grim dawn?
It takes more skill than poe.
Fantastic review, told me everything I needed to know - and love your style and pace. So tired of all the rapid-fire reviewers that try to impress with their mastery of the English language and wittiness. Your relaxed style (and accent), is easy on the ears and mind; good stuff.
Right! I'm so sick of the way some reviewers talk, wish they'd stop being so pretentious and talk like a normal person, Ralph gets it.
Great review as always!
I love Warhammer 40k so this game is awesome for me. I read the Inquisitor novels by Dan Abnett and all that. Collect the game books just to read through them and enjoy the art. I do agree about the combat not feeling as good as Diablo. But all the other stuff is so much more than D3 could ever be, to me anyway.
As far as the co-op/solo thing, I don't mind. I'm an old dude and I don't have friends who play. I kind of missed that generational thing of having friends to play with on line. I'm a little bitter about that, but love me some solo-friendly games that give the option to play with others.
The psyker warp mechanic is consistent with the 40k universe, if you tap into it you open a doorway for warp denizens to pass through into the world. I'm glad they implemented it here!
40k is a rich universe, glad you liked it
Dammit shillup!!! You had almost sold me on this game until that last bit about it being better to wait for a sale!!!
JK, I was really interested in this game after seeing some gameplay of it but wasn't sure if I would be buying it or not, when your review came out I told myself "If SkillUp apporves it, I'll get it," but you were so ambiguous now I have to make choice by myself!!! I'll probably get it, thanks for the hard work!
I think the message is if you like Warhammer and/or aRPGs then get it. Otherwise maybe hold off.
Wait for awhile :) still swimming in bugs. Give it a month and two and you will have a great title :)
Dreamforger I wouldn't say swimming, but it'll definitely be better with age as well titles are.
Idd, they were kind to refund me and told me to return when it had been ironed out.
I've been building my Ork Army and that shit takes time and paint god dammit! I've been looking for a good Warhammer game to hold me down until then and this works.
Really appreciate this review. Most reviews I've seen are from people expecting another Diablo, PoE, etc. Your review was pretty objective and insightful though.
Based on most pre-release developer interviews, it sounds like this game was designed first & foremost as a homage to the rich Warhammer universe. That being said, based on your somewhat minor qualms, it appears that the development team have largely succeeded in their endeavor. It boils down to this: If you are a fan of ARPG's, this game is worth a shot. If you are a fan of Warhammer 30-40K, this game is worth a shot from the crimson muzzle of a steaming "Bolter." Nice review. Can't wait to pick this game up. For the Emperor!
Papa Nurgle approves this review
This game needs all the denizens of the warp though
Slaanesh clamps a nipple in support.
Tzeentch psychically broadcast his support.
OR DOES HEEEEE!!!
KHORNE SHALL DROWN A HUNDRED WORLDS IN BLOOD FOR A SHOW OF SUPPORT
this game deserve a new review, skillUp.
why
@@AintPopular updates, new characters, better gameplay, so on ..
OMG YES!! i actually hated the speed of diablo and POE endgame and in general. i wanted something more slow, so this seems perfect. and i love 40k, so that helps
Thought so too, but... Worked out the best build I could do is, 1 huge nuke button, rest buffs. Crazy insane DPS/Clear speed.
Seeing this after purchasing the game on sale with all DLC for 32$ (60% off) and it's fantastic! They really fixed most of the issues people have with the game; it's faster, has a more in depth loot system, quality of life changes etc. The game is great now and though it stand on the shoulders of giants (Diablo 2, PoE, Titan Quest/Grim Dawn, Torchlight 2) it holds it's own and is thoroughly enjoyable. FOR THE EMPEROR!
Another update from 2021, co-op campaign is now available
Skill Up you might be the only reviewer on this site that I trust the integrity of. As a naturally skeptical person that's saying alot. Keep being awesome.
Skill up, WAB, and somewhat AJS are the only reviewers I trust. They have saved me from throwing away my money on some many hype trains. CHEERS!
ACG is great too.
Really good review, agreed with almost everything you said although the campaign was stated to be single player three years ago during the conceptual stage so I don't agree it was due to budget or bug reasons. Will be recommending this review to others.
AirsickHydra hey hydra. Been following your videos on this game ever since it was in open alpha. Gotta say you've done a great job at covering it over the months/years!
*raises fist in salute*
Hydra dominatus! ;)
he's also a paid shill
if that's the case i'd like my paycheck please. Been doing it for near two years and still haven't had one.
Then it was a stupid decision. ARPG's are coop games. The best in the genre all allow you to play with friends for all of their content the minute you start playing.
The fact you can't have a buddy join you for a 25 h story line I'd say is an epic design failure on the devs part. Whatever benefits they think they gained from cutting campaign multiplayer wasn't worth it.
This game has changed by a lot since your review, I would say the game plays almost entirely different than what you had talked about in here, I recommend you go back to it in some free time, hopefully you will be positively suprised!
Was not expecting you to review this one. Excellent.
Planning on doing an updated video with the rollout of the 2.0 overhaul? It was your vid that got me to check out this game in the first place.
Lost me at single player ONLINE. I'm glad I saw the reviews first, I don't feel like supporting this kind of bullshit whatever the excuse for it that they may have. Thanks for all the reviewers who pointed this out as this isn't a 10 dollar indie title and I want to be able to play a SINGLE PLAYER game I payed for whenever I want, not when the devs and their servers want me to and I don't want to deal with all the bullshit server issues this brings. I feel like steam should add a "Single player online" and a "Single player offline" tag. Anyway, have a good one.
People like you are insufferable
@@nataliecameronOh how dare he not want a mandatory internet connection! That's what his poor ass deserves for not living in an area with stable wifi
Hohohohoho!!!!!!
Seriously, this is one of the most detailed and helpful game reviews I've ever watched.
i usually don't like Diablo likes, but this one i will definitely get!!! And i love to play solo anyways! Love 40k Setting and looks really well done.
You're THE go-to guy for reviews Ralph, love your work
I genuinely don't give a shit about this game or many others you review...but I STILL watch them all because you are that interesting to listen to. Always a pleasure.
It's the down
ffejpsycho The down?
WHAT IS THIS CRAP! Less than a 20min review?! Also no obscure metaphor about a grand human achievement or how the Mayans had a mastery of the stars unlike any other civilization of its period and somehow translating that into a video game. This is the "Curse of Osiris" you game reviews really phoned it in.
Sometimes he is grounded and wants to reach his audience, and doesnt get lost into some socratean philosophy lesson...Ralph is human after all
But what's really needed is a boat metaphor. I have no idea kind of sea faring vessel Warhammer is most akin.
Great review as always...Tx
You and ACG are the two best reviewers on here.imo
Hands down, best reviewer on RUclips.
Very Helpful Review. I didn't know if I wanted to buy this game or not. Now that I've been shown what this game has to offer I think I'll give it a go.
I know this review is old but relevant as the game just released on console. Anyway just wanted praise you for the best review I've seen on this game. Great work
I am loving this game and I am grateful you reviewed it. Thank you for taking the time to cover this one.
Was looking for a review of this in 2020, didnt even know you covered it to begin with! Love your work!
Thank you so much for reviewing the game as you did. Some streamers are telling us we should wait 1 month before purchasing so the devs would have time to upgrade it a bit, and I am gonna definitely do just that.
Nice to see you cover this one bud, Kudos and Good Hunting.
Martyrs gat a 2.0 update and a stand aloen expansion so maby tray it agen :D
also if you get the expansion and haw the base game the new content will be unlockt for you in the base game
Sorry for my bad english
YOU ARE THE BEST REVIEWER OF ALL TIME, MAYBE EVER
Frenk van Vlissingen Wait...Arn't "all time" and "ever" the same?
Thankyou so much for such an honest and thorough review. IGN could really learn a thing or two from you.
In any case good sir , hope your channel keeps growing and 2022 is a prosperous year.
finally, a game reviewer that doesn't rely on crappy epileptic inducing graphics and moronic voice acting, coupled with a down to earth approach for reviewing of a product in a easy to understand systematic way, nothing woke to speak of just the game, thanks mate doing us proud, thanks for the review
Lots of skillup videos lately :o
My last big week before E3.
DANNYonPC plus laymen gaming isn’t getting the views it use to
Skillup doesnt cover TD daily and LM doesn't have EA to complain about :p
Austin smith it's actually getting more views than ever :=)
I feel like I see a comment from you in almost every video I watch. Good show. You give me familiarity.
My friend just bought it on ps4. Since we game share I decided to download it.
I am someone who’s played the tabletop game of Warhammer 40k and Fantasy. I love the universe, and it’s honestly my favorite universe of all time.
Was thinking between Vampyr and this. You’ve totally sold me on Martyr. Thanks for the excellent review sir.
I jussssst got into these Warhammer games with ChaosBane.. even bought that one twice .. for the pro and then PS5.. clearly I’m a top down dungeon crawler rpg fan “Diablo” Nope.. Warhammer is no Diablo .. nor has the Budget.. but it’s getting pretty damn close .. I think for what these games are .. we’ve been so spoiled with AAA BIG BUDGET .. tons of coverage .. vs smaller games like this with a Niche audience .. I’m glad I jumped into this world :) def have become a Warhammer fan now.. my only Moan is I was charged 59.99 at a retail store for the physical.. Older game folks lol..
I love this frequent reviews/videos we're getting now
For those that are a bit miffed about cover. Cover is a throwback to just about every warhammer 40k game, including the board game versions.. since the beginning of all time. It is a bit clunky in this game, but as a huge warhammer fan, I was really glad it was in. It almost wouldnt feel like a warhammer 40k game without a cover system.
I love warhammer and love that you reviewed this as i thought it would go under your radar. Top job!
What’s this? More than one Skill Up video in a month? What a blessing.
I waited to buy this game. hoping you would review it, and you did!
I'm glad i did wait, but when you describe how much slower paced it is, compared to PoE and D3, it's a turnoff for me, seeing as i very recently got into PoE, and the speed of some builds is what sells it to me.
Which in turn makes it hard to even consider Martyr as a viable game at this time.
Thank you for doing these reviews.
Finally the 40K action game that I was waiting for. Thank you Skill Up for your well thought out review.
If only Totalbiscuit was here to review this game;/
Ryxxi agreed :(
I imagine he would have gotten a private viewing even before the game came out and would be the first to put out the review beating Skillup to it lol
b4 TB, i didnt know what warhammer was. now i'll love it my whole life, all thanks to him
As a lifelong 40k fan, I pulled the trigger on this one at the w/e even though I never buy pre-release games, especially at this price point. It's very good. Has some ways to go to be great, but the devs are definitely putting in the work. It plays very differently to D3 and the slower pace is one I find welcome. It feels like DoW2 re-imagined as an ARPG. In that regard, I hope we get some squad mechanics later down the line, as being able to lead a gaggle of guardsmen in a multiplayer warzone would be a blast.
Thanks fro the review!
I've recently bought this game and damn I really wished the campaign was co-op! I am at Chapter 4 so far and god damn I love it. I've read that they are planning to release campaign co-op Q2019, wish they had a more solid ETA soon.
Excellent, well detailed thorough review. Great job.
They added the Cover systeme because its something that always existed in the tabletop game, when units/models are in covers, they have more chances to survive incoming ennemy fire, so it always was an important piece of the game.
i'm really glad to have seen this review. i was up in the air about this game due to the reviews on steam being in the mixed range. It has given me a few new things to consider if i should pick this up
Grim Dawn is one of the best arpg's out there. Would love to see your review for that as a new xpac is about to be released.
Well now I'm interested in this game due to the "tactical" notation. If it's a slower game than most Action RPGies I love that idea and may draw me to check it out.
Great, detailed and honest rewiev. And not boring. Thanks.
I've been really enjoying this game and agree with almost every point you made. Except for the co op thing I love arpgs but i always play them solo, co op is just people rushing through everything, i can't stand it. I love just going through and uncovering the whole map and taking my time.
Thank you, great review and I bought the game because of this and haven't stopped loving it. Fits me perfectly, isometric rpg but at a slower pace, harder enemies, it just feels great.
I played about 37 hrs (Lvl 20) so far and i love it. The 40k atmosphere is amazing. My only two issues so far are: Lag in coop and too few armor designs (NPCs look much cooler then the own charackter).
The future potential is imense (let me play as an Astartes/Terminator/Gray Knight or other race for example)
Really appreciate this review. Thank you for keeping it focused and real. One note I have is I do agree with their call that multiplayer pulls away from the story. I have found that when attempting to play with others they tend to rush the story. Being solo does change this of course but I can understand the desire for something more to be there for co-op or at least give the option
Great compare and contrast of speed for ARPGs. Very informative.
I might pick this up on a sale or after a few sound and class updates. Great review!
I hope these quality reviews keep coming.
The most unexpected review of 2018, much appreciated!
Putting cover in a game like this was a big mistake. And, this is probably one of the best reviews I've ever watched and listened to.
Man your really ramping up the skillup review rate awesome job
Thanks for this review, totally sold me on this game.
Skill Up is the Chris Harris of the game review world.
Thank you very much for this review, has helped a lot. Looking forward to possibly more Warhammer reviews in the future :)
Great review buddy. I pretty much agree with everything said here, though I will say I play with a controller, and the shotgun in particular feels really heavy and satisfying to me. Much, much better than the fairly floaty Van Helsing games. Once again though, the review is basically spot on. Keep up the good work.
Bought this game on sale for the PS4 and am currently tackling a few campaign missions at a time as a long range Assassin. So far I'm really enjoying it. The game certainly has its share of rough edges; the cover system is redundant (I find kiting to be more effective), picking targets can be fiddly and the camera allows you to see straight through the level architecture at times. That said, I like how combat and loot are implemented, with a slow but steady drip feed of progressively better weapons and gear that encourage experimentation and a respectable quantity of beefier enemies mixed in with the cannon fodder.
Last but not least, the game's attention to detail is great for Warhammer 40k nerds like myself. Weapon and equipment types are fairly accurate to the lore, and there's a good variety of enemies to fight. Also, can I just say how great it is that Nurgle gets the spotlight for once instead of the usual Khornate followers in most WH40k video games.
Thanks for making this review! The lack of a co-op campaign isn't bad for me since I plan to play it solo anyway.
Thumbs up for a detailed in depth review. Me thinks gonna try it.
Oh damn if this game is slow then its exactly what I was looking for lol. These other arpgs where you barely pause for a moment to even think about what you're doing or to appreciate those skills and weapons you've been grinding hours for don't make any sense to me.
half an hour ago, I wanted to get a refund from Steam. To be honest, the negative reviews on Steam influenced me. After watching your video, I decided to just give the game a second chance. thank you for another informative video from you
Subscribed. Love your reviews, albeit sometimes they can be a bit lengthy. I also enjoy your Laymen Gaming show. I am enjoying this game but I also love ARPG of all types so I am a bit bias.
Thank you for this terrific, honest review. I initially thought it was a Sci-Fi version of Diablo, but your note about the pace and Tactical part have clarified my misconception. Not sure whether to get it or not. I'll think about it while I play through Space Hulk.
Loved the og Dawn of War music :)
Have to say, I'm really enjoying this so far, love the atmosphere, graphics and sound but most of all, as a brand new player to the Warhammer universe it's crazy how quickly I got sucked into the lore
I picked this up for $15 recently, and do not regret it. Money well spent, and I'm having fun so far with a melee build.
It's a shame that this game and WH's other ARPG (Chaosbane) both seemed to have gotten better a year or so after release, but few people bothered to re-review them or care in any way.
I like both. Are they the best in the genre? No. But they are totally worth a buy of you like the genre, the setting, and catch a Steam or GOG sale.
PS: I do not think the top down ARPG genre is built around coop play. I think these types of games are much better as solo experiences. Good coop games are built from the ground up to be coop...Like Fortnite or Mario Cart.
Nice review. Not my type of game, never got into this genre, but great review as always. Thanks
Got into the "40K" universe at the end of Rogue Trader and I am a huge fan of Fantasy as well. Like most GW based games, this is good IF you are a fan.
killing it with the reviews!
Treat this game as Diablosouls. It's gonna be way more clunky, the systems require us to master them, the world of 40k is perfect for a darker story, spotted with some sporadic humor, it's an antithesis to the standard ARPG. I hope it keeps polishing further.
I DON'T reccomend this game willy-nilly to anyone, I point out the pacing, and difference in approach and point to a let's play to figure if you want to bite deep into it. But for me, I actually fell in love with this game, as it's exactly what I didn't know I need in my life, so I'm very happy.
I played this for roughly 20 hours back in its early stages over a year ago... it felt very incomplete. Glad to see at least some aspects have come into their own. I'm a bit sad about the "slow"ness of the game, as it doesn't need to be THAT slow, but it isn't a complete deal breaker.
Awesome review man. You should consider doing it more often. ;)
Amazing review, keep up the good work my dude.