Martin Keown CLAPS BACK At Simon Jordan's Criticism Of Joe Hart's Career & Labels It 'UNKIND!' 🔥⚽
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
- After 21 years at professional level, Joe Hart has decided to hang up his gloves at the end of the season. talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Martin Keown have their say!
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So Martin is calling out pep for being right only in the world we live in now do people have a moan about someone for being right 😂
The first two keepers Pep replaced him with were not any better though. He washed both of them out in favor of Ederson.
@@stevenhaas9622he replaced him with Bravo, Caballero was at the club before Pep... unless Ederson is the other keeper you're talking about. Pep was right, Joe Hart did nothing after that to prove him wrong.
Joe Hart can hold his head high, major trophies , contributed massively, dortmund at home, we could of been battered without joe. Tell your grandkids, they will be proud 👊
That is/was the best goalkeeping performance I've ever seen and I'm neutral.
Was great at Man City and can be proud ….and when he looks at the send off he got at Celtic he should also be proud ☘️☘️☘️
Simple Simon ….hes a hero Celtic and no other club would have gave him that send off
Joe Hart's problem was he got mugged off multiple times for England and that sticks. Zlatan overhead, Italy shootout, Iceland embarrassment, 2014 World Cup losses, Scotland freekicks, thats his England legacy. Then add on top of that came the era of keepers passing from the back, ball control, keeper sweepers and none of that was his skill. He would have been alot more suited to an 80s or 90s era, but thats life.
Oh yeah Pep was completely wrong in dropping Joe Hart, Man City really struggled without him and have had a serious goalkeeping issue since he left. Honestly Keown has so many excuses for why English players are just not quite as good as they are hyped to be.
They definitely had goalkeeping issues after thast until they brought in Ederson or are you not aware of that?
They did though! Bravo was awful for them. Just say you're anti English next time, it's quicker
@@Bert-lw1ot Why he was out after a year. I don't think they miss hart now. No other team really wanted him either even English clubs and England
Pep was 100% right Hart always had a mistake in him
did you listen? he said pep killed him (made Hart lose confidence) by taking him out of the team. He didn't mention if Pep was wrong or right. But Bravo was, in fact, a bigger issue for them than Hart ever was
The game moves on, Hart was unfortunate that the evolution of the game happened in his position in the middle of his career.
But I also think his talent took him as far as it could, which was a fair old distance.
Having Simon and Martin on same time is dangerous- I literally get road rage listening to them and I don’t even drive
I am sure pep is loosing sleep over Joe Hart after winning everything with city
He didn't win the champion league
Pep won the champions league next year
Yeah Hart won most of those things...
*losing
@@andrewwright4195 he won it with tottenham and celtic 🤣🤣🤣
But Arteta hasn’t killed Ramsdale?
He's English, that's all you need to know. What about the rest that Pep sold and benched?
Hart was always overrated by the English media same as Pickford is now
Remember Ben Alnwick or Richard Wright? I remember english media saying back in the day that they are new greats😂
Hary is miles better than pickford
blaming Pep that he wasn't able to perform at the likes of West Ham is dumb af
More bullshit from English pundits.
Was ederson an improvement ? Yes!
Did hart do well after man city? No!!
Are you anti-English? Yes!
England aint won the World Cup since 1966
@@dontbewokeis he lying ? No.
I'm English and Hart was a mediocre goalkeeper ; in any case the OP didnt reply proclaiming to not be anti-English so that says enough for me...@@acedup00
Hart didn't do himself any favours, coming across as a cocky sod imo
I’ve always thought that was why Pep wanted rid of him just as much as the ball playing.
Oh right so you know him...
@@mintywebbWhy are you getting offended on Joe's behalf 🤷♂️🤭🤣
He got humbled big time. To his credit he doesn't seem cocky anymore.
@@mintywebb You're coming across as Joes boyfriend. DO I know you personally? No but thats what I see. Hope thats cleared it up for you?
Simon he moved to Spurs to get game time, specifically to play under Mourinho in important European matches, where winning whilst resting your key players is an obvious factor. The real mistake he made was moving to West Ham and Burnley, clubs that didn't see his talent and left him to languish on the bench as a box ticking backup. The move he should've made with the advantage of hindsight was to go to Chelsea instead of Kepa, but poor England performance and the cold shoulder from Pep made that impossible. Luckily Celtic saw Joe Hart for what he is and always was. A talented, competitive, hard working, no-nonsense keeper and they've profited.
He won’t go down as a Banks, Shilton or Seaman in terms of his england career but He’s had a great career none the less, i wish him all the best in retirement.
Won a lot of golden gloves tbf
Like many his only skill was his English passport, Pep saw that miles away ..
Pep wanted to play out from back. Everyman and his dog knew that pep was coming for a full season before he cam.what did hart do in training for that year to try & improve his ability with his feet, not much by the looks of it. That does not suggest much in the way of effort or intelligence to me.
The simple reason pep gaurdiola let his go is simple at Barcelona he had valdz at Munich he had neuer and at Manchester he has ederson even though hart is a decent goal keeper he isn't really good with his feet
Don’t see Martin mentioning arteta kill ramsdale for a keeper just as bad
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but that night against Barcelona I've never seen a better single handed performance from a goalkeeper in my life and it was a pleasure to watch and the fact near enough every single Barcelona player after the match came over to hart and praised him speaks volumes.
They did the same for Forster at Celtic, I doubt it was as amazing as you think it was, he had a good game, big deal
It was bad enough when Pep told him he wasn't wanted at City but brutal when Nuno told him he wasn't wanted at Spurs, even as third choice.
He was never good enough for a top team. If he wasn’t white and English he wouldn’t even be a professional footballer
@@acedup00 what about that keeper at Man U? He's not English or white.
It's not surprising that Joe lost confidence as a result of Guardiola's decision because the latter replaced him with the triumph of Claudio Bravo. An own goal then bu not when City ended up with Ederson
Hart can’t pass the ball. Guardiola got rid of him for bravo who could pass the ball. United kept de gea who couldn’t. The game has moved on from shot stoppers.
No mention from keown of arteta killing Ramsdale at arsenal hey
It’s not Pep’s fault Joe couldn’t perform at Torino, West Ham, Burnley or Spurs 😂 not exactly big clubs are they
Spurs is a big club.
@@jamesjarrett52 😂 good one
West Ham are massive.
@@philip013 West Ham are massive flops*
@@bg7393do you even know the difference between biggest/massive and best/good?
Pep was right always thought even though he replaced shay Given in goal Given was all round a better keeper .
Hart was a great shot stopper but always had a mistake in him
When a player retires...all of a sudden he's a 'great player'...🙄🙄🙄...
I'm with Simon...Hart wasn't special...Pep is as good a judge as any & he didnt think twice abt dropping Hart... 2 PL titles in a team already winning again doesnt prove anything...then Celtic winning everything in Scotland...but its basically a 2 horse race.
Keown even said Hart was the 1st person Pep dropped...so given their immense success since...doesn't that prove Pep is a better judge??
Hart & Kalvin Phillips, Ramsdale, etc etc in the same boat...not great...just decent.
& England caps mean nothing 75caps when his competition was Green & ageing David James & young Pickford...
Hart's career was 6/10..thats the truth...any other perspective is through rose tinted varifocals!
Totally agree about Hart and what Simon said. I've been amazed at the talk this week about how great a goalkeeper people think he was. He single-handedly cost England so many times.
Surprised that at no point did they talk about the fact that Joe Hart's problem was becoming somewhat obsolete when it came to the demands put on goalkeepers at the very highest levels of the game. You can't be elite and play at an elite club if you are totally unsuited to playing the role of 'sweeper keeper'. By all accounts that's why Pep didn't fancy him.
The game just happened to go tactically in a direction that didn't suit him and Man City outgrew him in that sense.
As Simon says (haha) he still had a very decent career by any standards.
Yes, Pep man a bad choose with letting him go, he only won 5 league titles, champions league,
Keown doing his crossword as normal
Trying to spell his own name i expect
Left leg for standing on. Premier league players sussed out 8 years ago they could pass ball along the ground into his bottom left hand corner
The end for Joe came when Leigh Griffiths scored those two free kicks,never the same since.
I was shocked how JH went from England’s first choice GK and Premier League winner to being unable to find a club who wanted him in a matter of weeks. How must that have made him feel? I admire him and wish him all the best.
Never a top keeper, Pep was the 1st to call him out on it.
Hart has epitomised England not producing a world class goalkeeper since Gordan Banks really. Shilton and Seaman were over the hill when they played at 1990 and 2002 WCs.
I don't view him much different than I do Jordan Pickford, he has great moments but bad mistakes other times so in the end he is ok to good.
Joe hart knew pep was coming and had a year to work on his passing and distribution. But he didn't think he needed to. That's on him not pep
You can’t give him a year, he needs a childhood playing like that
He was brilliant for Birmingham.. we helped his career and he helped us
Celtic fans also have respect for him. Took a pay cut to go there. Won 5 titles and was very professional and respectful. Matured over his career. Is a well liked player and person.
@@davidmcgeoch9387 Celtic are great club wish they could play in the premier league.
@@TheHappyAbodeleague 1 team at best
Decent at City when Pep, comes along. Tried Willy and Bravo. It didn't work out with those 3. The rest is history. If you want a team to evolve then change.
Spot on
Simon : if Rangers win the league Martin : that won't happen though 😂😂😂
Well said Martin my man
The moment that ruined him was when he screamed at a ball boy and booted an advertising board. That's not a top keeper's temperament
Joe Murphy’s hi light was when played for Tranmere Rovers!! Downhill ever since then.
joe heart was well overrated, one of the first things pep did was get rid of joe heart. bang average goal keeper
He wasn’t at all. World class for 6-7 years
People don’t like hearing the truth
Zlatan had a go at him shrank after that game . Confidence is everything in a goal keeper
Old school keeper. Thsts what did him in. Goalies expected to do more nowadays.
Bein a keeper, he is going early, in my opinion he could still do a job for celtic
I think he wants to stop before he starts to decline badly
Couldn't be arsed
He declined about a decade ago, surprised he lasted as long as he did. Joe should go into the England squad to give advice to Southgate.
@@CEO786did you type that on the short bus or while you were waiting for it?
Rangers fans always appreciated our fellow British bretheren, but this guy chose to end his career with the most prolific club in world football for sexual abuse towards children 💯
We don't forget these things 🇬🇧
"We saw Pep, or Pepe you want to call him"
Hart was massively disrespected. Pep made the move to early bring the dunce Claudio Bravo who was rancid.
Not quite Simon. If a manager who is considered the greatest ever or certainly the greatest in the modern day, tells you you aren't good enough, sells you, then the England manager reflects his club managers decision in the national team. That would certainly shake a person's confidence, no doubt.
Guardiola got rid of Hart from city as a means of building up the team, and it's worked.
Joe Hart's career took a big hit and he struggled to recover until being given a chance by celtic and it's been a mutually beneficial enterprise.
The Scottish top flight doesn't have the quality of its english counterpart. Joe Hart isn't an all time great among goalies but he's had a respectable career overall.
There's no need to have a controversial take on any of that.
Once again Simon the only one whose spitting facts. Jim is a complete numpty who I’m sure doesn’t even realise what he says at times. And Keown, why even have him on
You really don't get the concept of this show do you
Yeah the fact they talk about sport on talksport was a real difficult one. What does the concept that have to do with having a host who acts the dummy and a guest in Keown who talks garbage
He's a football player. Is picking up all those England caps, the medals and awards never mind the millions in his bank not a pat on the back enough.
Capped for England 75 times and according to Simon he's not a good keeper come on Simon give the guy a break
He’s not and England have never been blessed with that great keepers if you actually look at it properly Joe hart was terrible
Keown has to be the worst pundit on talk sport absolutely shocking
Joe Hart at times was ‘Over Aroused’ says Simon. Can’t see the problem in that personally
He’s was always better than Pickford imo
Yeah, all very well bashing him but what was the alternative at his level at the time?!?
Being better than pickford is hardly a glowing endorsement either 😂
Butland is better than both of them ⚽
Rangers fans always appreciated our fellow British bretheren, but this guy chose to end his career with the most prolific club in world football for sexual abuse towards children 💯
We don't forget these things 🇬🇧
@@Brown87 hahaha no he isnt
Mad arnt ya Pickford's quality
What’s the point of knocking him down when he’s just announced his retirement?
No footballer should be celebrated like they’ve done 8 years in Afghanistan. Played football for 2 hours a day and max 3 90 min games a week and picked up millions for it… should we all be in awe or something?😂
Martin pep knew he wasn’t good enough for his team, simple
Joe Hart was a great keeper, AT THE TIME was the only one for many years city fans had confidence in.. he was a vital part of the spine of the team that improved dramatically and he was far better than Bravo... Hart, Kompany, Toure, Silva, Agguero.. that was a solid spine. If the ball got past the defense, city fans had confidence Joe would stop it.. we'd not had that before those years. But like other england keepers who made mistakes.. he got targeted by the press... before pep even arrived. Not including current keepers, Joe Hart was the best keeper City had for decades. He does deserve some credit for a good career before all the drama. City fans who saw the changes in the club over the decades know how good Joe was.
why are people taking about joe hart he doesnt deserve the airtime
Simons a tadger, if the zombies win the league it's got fvck all to do with Joe Hart. When he signed for us I was a bit worried after all this is the guy who let the second Leigh Griffiths free kick beat him, which was criminal in my opinion but,,, he has been great for us and is obviously a decent bloke with a presence around the club which has been beneficial to him and to us. Playing for us or them in goals isn't easy in fact you could argue it's as difficult as playing anywhere as the spotlight is on every mistake you make is enormous. He will go down as a legend at Celtic and another washed out English goalie??? is doing ok with them.
The only reason Pep was ”right” is because he had unlimited amount of money to buy goalkeepers. Before in football you couldn’t just throw away a national team goalie because of budget limitations.
keown looks like he's marking his kids homework
Bet he doesn’t say the same about De Gea
He was a talent lost but did not help himself with his arrogance not to adapt, he at his best is better than our top keepers now, but not quite at david james level for natural talent nor david seaman for mental strength
Pep went in and cleaned out the spine of city. Joe harts confidence collapsed from that moment
It was Nuno at spurs that killed Joe hart ( that's according to Joe himself)
Hart is like Jordan Henderson
Rather average league is being nice 😂
Joe Hart was genuinely world class for a couple of years, then he let it get to this head and completely fell off a cliff.
Joe Hart is a legend of football one of the greats
Pep treated Joe Hart very badly.
Why?
He wasnt good enough for City its as simple as that.
he could never lace allan mcgregors boots, not even graig gordons, he was in his prime years and chucked it cos big phill BAHAHAH
Big phill BAHAHAH 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If he was so great why did he fell off after city
Joe Hart did not help Joe Hart no else to blame
Sesquipedalian Jordan is a nightmare to listen to .... Why not use layman's terms instead of trying to impress?
What happened Simon? Oh yeah he bowing out on a title win! 🏆
I don't think.hart was as good some people think. He looked good with a good team in front of him. But at lesser teams with more shots at him,he has struggled. There is a reason why pep got rid and not got in these other teams.
You mean like most keepers look better with a good team in front of them.
Joe hart and kasper schmichel were competing for that spot before they had a good team in front of them at 18 years of age. I saw joe hart come through. He was a very good goalkeeper in actual fact. Time moves on though. Being just a good goalkeeper/shot stopper isn’t enough anymore ….
Kasper Schmeichel has always been a far better keeper than Joe Hart, I never understood how he wasn't first choice ahead of him for longer at City.
@@mikeybee1593nonsense, he was dog 💩 all the time.
Big man is living in scotland his family arent thats enough reason to stop haha
Poor Joe Hart, he had his head in his hands.
Then dropped it.
Phillips also trying to recover his career because of Pep. Not good enough or not right for the system, you can see it’s knocked his confidence and now he is getting comments left and right criticising his weight and motivation. Pep is the world’s best but he needs to be careful with some of these players.
Needs to be careful grow up
Yea be careful with the guys who make hundreds of grand a week to sit on a bench 😢
@@BallJuiceOfZeus so they aren’t humans with human emotions because of how much money they earn? We should just treat them like commodities and nothing more? Wtf is wrong with people.
@@Jonesylmaoto be the best hè has to be best, and if he isn’t good enough than he isn’t good enough. Simple.
Is Martin a teacher? Always writing stuff down, you grading papers?
At the end of the day for man city at that moment in time he was a great goalkeeper the end.
Joes got EPL medals unlike a few geeat English players ie Stephen Gerrard for one! He wasn't bad to be fair just the game evolved & was he that bad for England people? ✌️👍
What has Hart achieved since his exodus from City, who has he played for and where is he right about now? Bang average keeper...
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
Boring meme
Simon Jordan is honestly so clueless😂😂
Simon jordan is just a businessman, what gives him the rite to bring goalkeepers doon, dizny ken nothing🤬
"claps back"
Come on SJ, JH was and still would be a better keeper at international level than the overrated Pickford who has always been a liability for club and country😎
Joe has been brilliant at Celtic. Sure he's had some howlers but on the whole has been decent. A fantastic guy to have in the dressing room and I wish him and his family well. A gentleman and a genuinely nice guy. God bless Joe 💚 🤍 🧡
Jo can't dive to his left Hart
Joe Hart mister angry
Simons usual answer about City players or ex not a great admirer joker.
Joe did lose confidence, Keown is both right and wrong. Pep did right thing wanted a better gk.
Can't believe people are excusing Pep. What about Bravo? Pep kicks players out of clubs (like Deco or Etoo) and no on bats an eyelid.......but if it's other managers "he ruined their carreer"....
He kicks out players and wins so what are u on about?
Pep is successful, other managers are not, it's very simple.
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 That doesn't excuse shitty behaviour. Or being unfair.
@@jeanjacqueslundi3502 what shitty behavior, y'all emotional because he is British, if it had been any other goalkeeper we won't even be having this conversation. Shay Given was an excellent goalkeeper before he was injured and replaced with Joe Hart, who cared? Mark Hughes didn't want him as his number one and that was the end of the conversation. Pep didn't want him as his number one period and end of conversation. How many times have we seen managers come and replace players they didn't want? This is the norm and people should deal with it and stop acting like little kids whose toys have been taken away from them. Besides he had an opportunity to prove his worth with other teams in the premier leagues and yet he failed, so what is his excuse?
Ultimately what you are saying is he is weak-minded and couldn't deal with rejection, guess what great athletes have an unbreakable mindset, eg CR7, if u cannot deal with pressure and rejection in football then is a problem because players get traded off all the time. At some point, people have to take accountability for their own actions. The guy was excellent for a few years and declined after that. This has been the trajectory of most football players and Joe Hart is no anomaly.
@@roberteshun1376 I don't even think Hart is a great keeper anymore, and no I'm not english, but Guardiola has a history of doing that. to players. When he left, he was good enough to play. Same with Bravo.
Hart 2010-16… great keeper. Been good last 2 years too
Joe has gone good job for celtic all best joe
Average keeper who got lucky.
Hardly any exceptional keepers around during his time 💩
Saved penalties from messi and Zlatan best English goalkeeper in the 21st century by far
The man’s had a 20 year career at the top…why have a dig? Just congratulate the guy and move on