Great review but I believe you missed a few points of this bag. It is a Bail Out Bag not a bug out bag. It's meant to get you home after bailing out your vehicle in a disaster. The firm siding of the bag is because it may be opened and used as a sleep pad in an emergency, something very few people think about with bail out bags (try using a garbage bag stuffed with leaves in an urban environment). The extra bag yes, may be used for a shoulder carry for rifle magazines, but also as a beaver tail on the bag to extend its load carry. You can tuck jackets, ponchos, etc. between the beavertail and the bag itself. The large zip pocket is not a dry bag, it's meant to be turned inside out, insert the sit pad and extend the sleep pad functionality to a full 3/4 length sleep pad. Also, instead of leaving a large Bail Out Bag in your vehicle (temping for theft), it can be folded and concealed as a simple Molle panel attached to the back of a vehicle seat. This lets you keep the bag in the vehicle full time and is less likely to be stolen. Finally, it's their urban line, which is designed to be low profile so as not to attract attention when in an urban environment. Having a camo bag with extra pouches dangling off it screams "I'm a weekend warrior, come rob me!". This bag gives the impression of just another schmuck trying to get home after a disaster. For its intended purpose, I think this bag ticks many of the overlooked needs.
It was most interesting read It Royrke comment...finally somebody who can read (yes the name of the bag is Bail Out Bag), knows something about the bag and knows how to use it!!! I personally own one in adaptative green, and although not my fav bag I have to confess it ticks many different and useful boxes. In a situatian of panic, either comming home or fleeing it, our thought process might not be at its best, (especilly if acopanied by screaming wife and or children). The organizational capabilities of this bag may be a plus...the ground mat option is another...the small bag to be used on the pack, at side or as a chest rig is a good point... I am not especially fond of the materials and the lack of a belt bothers me, but, in the end, it is a good option. Thanks IT Rourke for your good work on the BOB!
@@GAUROCH2 Thanks, unlike many people and their BOB, my 'get home' would be a minimum 3 to 5 days through both urban and wooded travels, multi-use is a key. Surprisingly, this bag does hold 5 days supplies for me. BTW, I did a weekend multi-day hike with this pack and the balance was very nice even without the waist belt. I may consider doing my own review of this bag in the near future.
@@jtrourke667 Thanks...yes I always try to go light and multipurpose! I think I could go 5 days with this pack...if in the peak of summer with temperatures rising to almost 120 f where I live I would have to carry extra water...if in winter I might carry my millet sleeping bag, very small, light and expensive, and a SOL escape bivy or a 2System... I have Maxpedition Tiburon and a Bober, a FirstTactical half day, and a Dragon Egg, but my really favourite is the Filson Journeyman...ggg, it is not big but it is so me, and so confortable on my back!!! The "pros" allways give me that side look because of the Filson, but I don't care, I just love that pack (so much that I have 2: green otter in winter configuration and the kaky in summer configuration) Stay well.
I like the interior MOLLE webbing - and especially with it right against the back; my heaviest items are my tools, which I want *inside* the pack, and as close to my person as possible, so the weight isn't pulling the pack away from me.
While I would want more gear for a real bug out bag than could fit in that bag, I see it better serving as an edc pack or day hike pack. It might be good for a 24-48hr bag If you're very selective on gear. I plan on picking one up. I have been looking for a more organizable backpack. A better contender for a bug out bag would be their Matilda Pack IMO
I just got mine today in the mail. EDC works perfectly for this pack as well as a get home application. The only drawback I see with it is it's COMPLICATED.
For those arguing the difference between a "bug out bag" vs a "bail out bag", the latter of which is how this bag is labeled on the website, note also that the website lists the price in Euros. In other words, are a British "jumper" and North American "sweatshirt" different items? Or do we just call them different names? To us, a jumper is something more akin to a pantsuit\jumpsuit. 🤷
Contrary to some commenters, I think this could be a decent bug out bag, with the proviso that it would be a good 'Grey Man' bag. It has concealed magazine pouches! How cool is that for a grey man bag?
I just don't see how that's convenient, if I need a magazine I have to take the bag off to retrieve one. Seems like a wasted time, what if I need the mag in a hurry?
This would DEFINITELY work as a "gray man" bag when you have to pack a quick 48-hour bag with just the basics. That way, it could fit into small spaces. I like how it can be converted into a pseudo duffel bag so you can hang stuff off the sides even if they don't fit.
As many others here have said...this is certainly not suitable as a bug out bag. I realize that there can be slightly varying definitions of such terms, but this isnt even on the same page as a bug out bag or go bag etc.
Hi, thanks for the detailed review. Which color is the bag you reviewed? For context, deciding between adaptive green, coyote, or combo. Lotta issued stuff is coyote so don’t wanna stick out too much, yet bag could be useful in another color for urban setting. Thx.
I have the black grey and its sexy. Looks like you're gonna whip out and wine bottle and fine cheese and crackers and picnic at the park wit you're girlfriend
Would i use this as a bug out bag? No, for me its a bit small and oddly shaped. For travel and as a medical? Oh yes, its perfect for that. And i also love the layflat possibility. Great review. Greetings from Norway
this is the first bag I've seen that converts into a different shape. I wouldn't mind using it as a camping bag since I have a shelf with elastic straps that can be attached to the loops.
Interesting design, however none of the front pockets are very functional once you open the bag and the pull-out pocket items would tear into your back once you attach items to the molle. Needs some more R and D time.
Seems like a terrible design for a survival pack and just as bad for hiking. Not enough functional pockets on the outside and too difficult to access gear in the main compartment. On a good note, it looks like the perfect pack for airline travel. The shape looks like it will fit under a seat and shaped perfectly for an overhear bin, especially with the grab handles on all sides. Heavily padded to protect your stuff. The inside pouches would be useful for organizing your travel stuff like toiletries. Dry bag perfect for dirty clothes. I would definitely consider this bag travel.
Nice looking bag but I tend to agree that it’s not that practical. Lots of modular storage which is good but the compartments are good for laptops/tablets as stated, but it does limit you. Difficult to envisage how you would accommodate a decent, robust shelter system. Still a nice bag for certain uses.:-)
Gear Whores Anonymous agreed mate. As a medical kit or get home bag it’s ideal. I do like it, just don’t see as it being practical as a bug out bag. Out of interest, as I’m always willing to learn, what shelter system are you getting into that space? Regards. Mike
Spirit Nomad see now that really depends on YOUR definition of bailout. I could easily fit a small sleeping mat and shelter tarp in this bag but if you’re looking for a tent or something larger then no.
ok and why are the magazine holders on the only part of the bag you cannot reach? Seems pretty pointless, more to do with marketing the bag than actually being useful. Which is basically how everything works in the prepper world
You can dettach the small pack and use it as a shoulder bag or purse. You can fasten it with the built in g hooks(they attach together) and use it as a chest rig or a drop leg platform. It has velcro inside so you can attach a velcro holster. I have it in grey/black and I like it because you can walk thru most areas and not get looked at weird, yet still, on a moments notice have a capable combat rig set up. If you get the right color(black or grey), the chest rig will blend in with shirts very easily. No one will notice what you're wearing until you get within 50 yards. Also as a drop leg pistol holster, it actually holds comfortable and tightly. They have quality straps and velcro.
And if you think about it, why would you be trying to reach behind you for magazines? Even if this pack, or any pack, had molle on the sides for a mag pouch, are you really gonna twist your arm like that to reach it?
@@yoinky You make some good points, that was a great comment Yep mag pouches on your pack make zero sense, I agree "Also as a drop leg pistol holster, it actually holds comfortable and tightly" Are you talking about the detachable front pouch? I am interested to hear how you set that up, has it got belt loops or something?
@@yoinky Btw can I ask what kind of loadout / situation have you got it set up for? I can see the open out design of the pack being handy for first aid but other than that Im not sure how it could be best taken advantage of It seems like the last thing you want to do in a sketchy situation is to unzip your bag and have your stuff start falling out, it stops it from being a bag which is its most useful function To me a BOB is just something that covers the basic needs (food, water, shelter, medical) you have while you get away from a dangerous area, all that can be done with any sturdy light weight pack
Any bag that can carry/fit more than 15kg worth of gear, food and water but has no waist belt is a terrible bag - Having borrowed this bag from a friend, I can confidently say that this is an awful bag to bug-out with, as you will be feeling incredible amounts of discomfort in your shoulders within a few miles of bugging out due to the aforementioned lack of supportive hip belt...
It's a bail out bag. Not big enough for a bug out bag. More or less a get home bag if you aren't more than a day away from home...no room for all you need to bug out IMO.
ok, guess you never had a sick kid in hospital..that bag looks real small with lots of room taken up by padding. I guess if you plan to run around with a gun and shoot pple and then use their stuff it could be a good bug out bag
I hate to correct you, but this is NOT a Bug Out Bag, it's a "Bail Out Bag" which are two totally different things. You should NOT be reviewing preps if you do not know what they are. I would take this video down and redo, this totally ruins your credibility. It's important to be accurate.
Gear Whores Anonymous nope, a Bug Out Bag is a 24/48/72 hour to 7 days+ bag for emergency disasters. Words and terms have definitions it's important to use them correctly ... do you think you can't just start making up your own definition for products. So, according to you I can call this bag a gym bag?
Gear Whores Anonymous no it's not mine either, you just have to google it to get the definition. I didn't create the phase or term "Bug Out Bag" those who did define it. Even the company who created this bag calls their bag a "Bail Out Bag" lol. So there is no need to keep going back and forth my friend. Best of luck and keep Prepping.
This is a horrible example. It's tiny for one. Secondly, molle on the inside? So what you can add two layers of additional fabric for anything you would attach to it inside. Is this video a joke?
Great review but I believe you missed a few points of this bag. It is a Bail Out Bag not a bug out bag. It's meant to get you home after bailing out your vehicle in a disaster. The firm siding of the bag is because it may be opened and used as a sleep pad in an emergency, something very few people think about with bail out bags (try using a garbage bag stuffed with leaves in an urban environment). The extra bag yes, may be used for a shoulder carry for rifle magazines, but also as a beaver tail on the bag to extend its load carry. You can tuck jackets, ponchos, etc. between the beavertail and the bag itself. The large zip pocket is not a dry bag, it's meant to be turned inside out, insert the sit pad and extend the sleep pad functionality to a full 3/4 length sleep pad. Also, instead of leaving a large Bail Out Bag in your vehicle (temping for theft), it can be folded and concealed as a simple Molle panel attached to the back of a vehicle seat. This lets you keep the bag in the vehicle full time and is less likely to be stolen. Finally, it's their urban line, which is designed to be low profile so as not to attract attention when in an urban environment. Having a camo bag with extra pouches dangling off it screams "I'm a weekend warrior, come rob me!". This bag gives the impression of just another schmuck trying to get home after a disaster. For its intended purpose, I think this bag ticks many of the overlooked needs.
It was most interesting read It Royrke comment...finally somebody who can read (yes the name of the bag is Bail Out Bag), knows something about the bag and knows how to use it!!!
I personally own one in adaptative green, and although not my fav bag I have to confess it ticks many different and useful boxes. In a situatian of panic, either comming home or fleeing it, our thought process might not be at its best, (especilly if acopanied by screaming wife and or children). The organizational capabilities of this bag may be a plus...the ground mat option is another...the small bag to be used on the pack, at side or as a chest rig is a good point... I am not especially fond of the materials and the lack of a belt bothers me, but, in the end, it is a good option.
Thanks IT Rourke for your good work on the BOB!
@@GAUROCH2 Thanks, unlike many people and their BOB, my 'get home' would be a minimum 3 to 5 days through both urban and wooded travels, multi-use is a key. Surprisingly, this bag does hold 5 days supplies for me. BTW, I did a weekend multi-day hike with this pack and the balance was very nice even without the waist belt. I may consider doing my own review of this bag in the near future.
@@jtrourke667
Thanks...yes I always try to go light and multipurpose! I think I could go 5 days with this pack...if in the peak of summer with temperatures rising to almost 120 f where I live I would have to carry extra water...if in winter I might carry my millet sleeping bag, very small, light and expensive, and a SOL escape bivy or a 2System...
I have Maxpedition Tiburon and a Bober, a FirstTactical half day, and a Dragon Egg, but my really favourite is the Filson Journeyman...ggg, it is not big but it is so me, and so confortable on my back!!! The "pros" allways give me that side look because of the Filson, but I don't care, I just love that pack (so much that I have 2: green otter in winter configuration and the kaky in summer configuration)
Stay well.
Velcro hook is the fuzzy stuff, Velcro loop is the tiny plastic loops that get hooked by the fuzz
I know what Velcro / hook and loop is. Thanks.
I like the interior MOLLE webbing - and especially with it right against the back; my heaviest items are my tools, which I want *inside* the pack, and as close to my person as possible, so the weight isn't pulling the pack away from me.
While I would want more gear for a real bug out bag than could fit in that bag, I see it better serving as an edc pack or day hike pack. It might be good for a 24-48hr bag If you're very selective on gear. I plan on picking one up. I have been looking for a more organizable backpack. A better contender for a bug out bag would be their Matilda Pack IMO
I just got mine today in the mail. EDC works perfectly for this pack as well as a get home application. The only drawback I see with it is it's COMPLICATED.
I ordered mine today...thanks!
For those arguing the difference between a "bug out bag" vs a "bail out bag", the latter of which is how this bag is labeled on the website, note also that the website lists the price in Euros. In other words, are a British "jumper" and North American "sweatshirt" different items? Or do we just call them different names? To us, a jumper is something more akin to a pantsuit\jumpsuit. 🤷
Mines coming today
What do you think about wisport zipperfox? (25 or 40 L)
Contrary to some commenters, I think this could be a decent bug out bag, with the proviso that it would be a good 'Grey Man' bag. It has concealed magazine pouches! How cool is that for a grey man bag?
I just don't see how that's convenient, if I need a magazine I have to take the bag off to retrieve one. Seems like a wasted time, what if I need the mag in a hurry?
This would DEFINITELY work as a "gray man" bag when you have to pack a quick 48-hour bag with just the basics. That way, it could fit into small spaces. I like how it can be converted into a pseudo duffel bag so you can hang stuff off the sides even if they don't fit.
Your right that is the best bag that I've seen yet. But to much for my budget.
Thanks for sharing this review. Like the concepts used in the bag.
Best review! Thanks!
As many others here have said...this is certainly not suitable as a bug out bag. I realize that there can be slightly varying definitions of such terms, but this isnt even on the same page as a bug out bag or go bag etc.
Hi, thanks for the detailed review. Which color is the bag you reviewed? For context, deciding between adaptive green, coyote, or combo. Lotta issued stuff is coyote so don’t wanna stick out too much, yet bag could be useful in another color for urban setting. Thx.
For a more urban setting I would recommend the shadow grey for the greyman effect, or the shadow grey and black combo for the more blended effect
I have the black grey and its sexy. Looks like you're gonna whip out and wine bottle and fine cheese and crackers and picnic at the park wit you're girlfriend
OFF THE HOOK PACK GREAT REVIEW!
Awesome concept
Would i use this as a bug out bag? No, for me its a bit small and oddly shaped. For travel and as a medical? Oh yes, its perfect for that. And i also love the layflat possibility. Great review. Greetings from Norway
this is the first bag I've seen that converts into a different shape. I wouldn't mind using it as a camping bag since I have a shelf with elastic straps that can be attached to the loops.
Not a bad little bag there thanks for sharing ATB Costa
Interesting design, however none of the front pockets are very functional once you open the bag and the pull-out pocket items would tear into your back once you attach items to the molle. Needs some more R and D time.
Seems like a terrible design for a survival pack and just as bad for hiking. Not enough functional pockets on the outside and too difficult to access gear in the main compartment. On a good note, it looks like the perfect pack for airline travel. The shape looks like it will fit under a seat and shaped perfectly for an overhear bin, especially with the grab handles on all sides. Heavily padded to protect your stuff. The inside pouches would be useful for organizing your travel stuff like toiletries. Dry bag perfect for dirty clothes. I would definitely consider this bag travel.
This needs a hip belt and possibly an aluminum support in the back. So sad it doesn't have these, otherwise would have been perfect...
Looks like a good travel bag but ,bug out bag. ? No
IK UK I’d have to disagree with you completely.
Nice looking bag but I tend to agree that it’s not that practical. Lots of modular storage which is good but the compartments are good for laptops/tablets as stated, but it does limit you. Difficult to envisage how you would accommodate a decent, robust shelter system. Still a nice bag for certain uses.:-)
Spirit Nomad practicality depends on what you’re using it for. As a dedicated med or bailoutbag it’s perfect.
Gear Whores Anonymous agreed mate. As a medical kit or get home bag it’s ideal. I do like it, just don’t see as it being practical as a bug out bag.
Out of interest, as I’m always willing to learn, what shelter system are you getting into that space?
Regards.
Mike
Spirit Nomad see now that really depends on YOUR definition of bailout. I could easily fit a small sleeping mat and shelter tarp in this bag but if you’re looking for a tent or something larger then no.
A lot of the features of this bag (especially the shoulder straps) remind me of Milspec Monkey's designs
SkyKnifer 🤔
I just order one for 149 from the company themselves.
Bail out bag. Not bug out bag. Per company's description
Thank you for the video!
Do you actually get 2 beaver tails or did they send you two? All other reviews dont mention 2. Thanks.
DIB 001 I got only 1
ok and why are the magazine holders on the only part of the bag you cannot reach?
Seems pretty pointless, more to do with marketing the bag than actually being useful. Which is basically how everything works in the prepper world
You can dettach the small pack and use it as a shoulder bag or purse. You can fasten it with the built in g hooks(they attach together) and use it as a chest rig or a drop leg platform. It has velcro inside so you can attach a velcro holster. I have it in grey/black and I like it because you can walk thru most areas and not get looked at weird, yet still, on a moments notice have a capable combat rig set up. If you get the right color(black or grey), the chest rig will blend in with shirts very easily. No one will notice what you're wearing until you get within 50 yards. Also as a drop leg pistol holster, it actually holds comfortable and tightly. They have quality straps and velcro.
And if you think about it, why would you be trying to reach behind you for magazines? Even if this pack, or any pack, had molle on the sides for a mag pouch, are you really gonna twist your arm like that to reach it?
Also you still can attach pouches to the shoulder straps if you can find one that will
@@yoinky You make some good points, that was a great comment
Yep mag pouches on your pack make zero sense, I agree
"Also as a drop leg pistol holster, it actually holds comfortable and tightly"
Are you talking about the detachable front pouch? I am interested to hear how you set that up, has it got belt loops or something?
@@yoinky Btw can I ask what kind of loadout / situation have you got it set up for? I can see the open out design of the pack being handy for first aid but other than that Im not sure how it could be best taken advantage of
It seems like the last thing you want to do in a sketchy situation is to unzip your bag and have your stuff start falling out, it stops it from being a bag which is its most useful function
To me a BOB is just something that covers the basic needs (food, water, shelter, medical) you have while you get away from a dangerous area, all that can be done with any sturdy light weight pack
feels a little too tiny for a bug out bag
Nice smooth design. Like to see it fully packed as a BOB
Any bag that can carry/fit more than 15kg worth of gear, food and water but has no waist belt is a terrible bag - Having borrowed this bag from a friend, I can confidently say that this is an awful bag to bug-out with, as you will be feeling incredible amounts of discomfort in your shoulders within a few miles of bugging out due to the aforementioned lack of supportive hip belt...
I love their gear plain simple designs and well built.
It's a bail out bag. Not big enough for a bug out bag. More or less a get home bag if you aren't more than a day away from home...no room for all you need to bug out IMO.
Semantics
Theve just copied the Karrimor SF Thor pack.
ive taken more stuff for an overnighter in hospital for my kid than would fit in that bag....
Sabine Katsavrias highly doubt it
ok, guess you never had a sick kid in hospital..that bag looks real small with lots of room taken up by padding. I guess if you plan to run around with a gun and shoot pple and then use their stuff it could be a good bug out bag
It’s a sign from God. I’m drinking a Okocim O.K. Beer. This is going on the short list.
Nice ruck
I hate to correct you, but this is NOT a Bug Out Bag, it's a "Bail Out Bag" which are two totally different things. You should NOT be reviewing preps if you do not know what they are. I would take this video down and redo, this totally ruins your credibility. It's important to be accurate.
PrepperAgenda I have to disagree, different definitions for different folks.
Gear Whores Anonymous nope, a Bug Out Bag is a 24/48/72 hour to 7 days+ bag for emergency disasters. Words and terms have definitions it's important to use them correctly ... do you think you can't just start making up your own definition for products. So, according to you I can call this bag a gym bag?
PrepperAgenda that’s your definition but not mine and certainly not the designer of this bag
Gear Whores Anonymous no it's not mine either, you just have to google it to get the definition. I didn't create the phase or term "Bug Out Bag" those who did define it. Even the company who created this bag calls their bag a "Bail Out Bag" lol. So there is no need to keep going back and forth my friend. Best of luck and keep Prepping.
PrepperAgenda you’re more than welcome to contact the main designer at www.survivaltech.pl
It’s a camera bag, nothing more.
Ed Wo nope.
total junk every time u open it shit falls out
It has compression straps. Also there are built in mesh bags and molle so your stuff should be contained anyways
This is a horrible example. It's tiny for one. Secondly, molle on the inside? So what you can add two layers of additional fabric for anything you would attach to it inside. Is this video a joke?