Random dudes: Negative SpeedForce doesnt exist on CW The Flash Me: What? Can you speak any louder? I CANT HEAR YOU! *CAN YOU SPEAK ANY LOUDER, PLEASE?*
@@clintwest8946 actually im pretty sure he saw nora there to get the savitar suit piece, so he meant that the timeline was written and he was meant to lose
The second Thawne spoke the word "Negative" in that episode, I thought " 'Comics' better be making a video on this ASAP." You've been callin' this for a while.
Actually the Black Flash using the negative speed-force does explain how it was able to track Thawne if the whole point of using the negative speed-force is to remain hidden from other speedsters.
The black flash had red lightning but he was not using the negative speedforce, the reason black flash's lightning is red is because he has a corrupted connection to the speedforce, another thing is, when zoom was turned into black flash, the time wraiths sent by the normal speed force are the ones who transformed him into black flash, why would the time wraiths from the normal speed force allow black flash to tap into the negative speed force, when the negative speed force is like a parasite from the normal speed force
I love how they show that the negative speed force could be burned off by Speedster running at their top speed while focusing on the positive the way Barry did it in the comics
I LOVE the video. The explanation of it is really awesome, hearing your explanation as others are different when they tell about the Speedforce. That was the Negative Speedforce on the show the whole time. But he finally confirmed the name of it. I was geeking out when I heard him give his speed the name, as is in the comics.
He has major flaws in his video. He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11. Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed. He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne. Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too. Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
Tarker Who's Savitar. Wasn't he the villain so badly written that I had to wipe my memory to forget that catastrophe of a villain who was killed by A BULLET. lol
You could basically make the comparison that the speed force is the light side of the force, and the negative speed force is the dark side of the force.
I wouldn't really say that. They don't have a duality, and its not like evil speedsters all draw their power from the negative speedforce, whereas good ones use the regular speedforce. The only speedster that has ever used the negative speedforce was thawne until dc rebirth, where Barry got it for a very short (and very shitty arc) and meena, who stole it from Barry at the end of that arc.
@@Just_Red_ i was referencing the fact that the negative speedforce is only accessed by allowing the negative emotions such as anger, hate, jealousy to take over you and you dwell on those emotions, which is how you tap into and maintain your connection to the dark side. There is a clear difference between the two, but there are similarities at the same time
@@Cab00se23 I mean that's really only a thing in the TV show, and it's pretty stupid imo. Not sure if you were taking specifically about the show or in general
@Snoi Med Or the Strength Force? Lookout people, we have a fellow comic fan/fan of all things flash/DC, give him a round of applause, and I'm not even joking, give him a round of applause!
1. In the show, Barry wouldn't have had created the Speedforce because they been there since the big bang. 2. Eobard losing his speed in season 1 is because of the disappearance of Original 2020 Barry, which is why he gave Barry his speed much earlier so he can have a more stable connection to the NSF. 3. This can also explain him still having the memories of Flash season 1 in Legends season 2. 4. Even tho Eobard is connected to the NSP, the SP can still send Time Wraiths after him since they are both connected.
1. The Speed Force in the comics existed since the beginning of time too, but only after Barry got his powers and spread from that point throughout all time and space. The show could do something wonky like that, if the writers were up to it. 2. You're right, I mentioned this in one of my other videos too. I was just trying to further tie in the NSP to that event, but I guess I didn't word it well. 3. Wasn't that supposed to be explained away by the SF language he and Nora were using? I thought somebody (writer, showrunner, etc.) said that was the reason Eobard always seemed to remember everything even when that version couldn't have been involved with some event or another? 4. True. Interested to see how the writers expand on this idea in later episodes.
@@ComicBooksvsTheWorld I'm guessing that's another different thing about NSF in the comics vs Tv show Comics: can alter time without consequences Tv: Still get Time Wraths and Black flash (probably dead) after you.
So The Negative Speed-Force is just like the Positive Speed-Force but since the Negative Speed-Force is the opposite of its Positive counterpart it has different alterations such as while having Positive Speed-Force and having Red Lightning is the Slowest lightning but since the Negative Speed-Force is the REVERSE version of the positive Speed-Force then that means having Negative Speed-Force while having Red Lightning makes you the fastest evil Speedster alive
As Gideon stated, "Your cells contain no TRACES of the speed force." Meaning when he created the negative speed force he still a small portion of the NSF (Normal Speed Force) in his cells. I can prove this point because its similar to what happened to Wally and Barry after they found out that the speed force has been destroyed, they had it in them but only what was left. Going back to the point of RF(Reverse-Flash) thats why the portal he came through was of the NSF as well as the fact that the RF's speed force has been siphoning energy off of the NSF, but not draining it of its power, that's also the reason why in the episode of XS(Nora West-Allen) when she ran inside of the speed force there was no lightning following her inside because besides XS, Thawne was the only other speedster in there meaning that he controls it entirely unlike the Speed Force that XS, KF(Kid Flash), TF(The Flash), And Zoom use where it has a controller that will go after speedsters that mess with the time line.
the negative speed force is like like a vacuum cleaner that drains the normal speed force, its like his own battery being charged by the normal speed force
You also forgot that reverse flashes powers are somewhat different from Barry’s with the negative speed force. Rather than moving faster than time like Barry, Eobard’s speed is generated by slowing down time to move and process the same information as Barry. If that makes sense. Edit: And no, I’m not taking about Hunter Zolomon’s Time control powers. I’m talking about Professor Zoom’s (Reverse Flash) Negative Speed Force.
The first that came to my mind, was this fictional conversation: Reverse Flash: "I have created the Negative Speed Force!" Flash: "Does that mean you're as fast as a snail now, or that you can only run backwards really fast?" XD
They can make a episode of the origin of the negative speed forces and ooooo he said he could never be the flash and always has to be the reverse of everything that was also on the comics
I also think that the negative speed Force can draw out the more negative feelings and emotions in negative speed Force users however we don't really see that until they become angry because that's when they start to uncontrollably vibrate and have the red eyes reverse-flash I'd say has way more control over that than Nora but whenever we've seen the reverse flash get pissed off his eyes light up red and when he's in the suit and he gets angry he vibrates and my theory as to why that happens is because the speedsters emotions are all over the place and with the negative speed Force fuelling that rage or emotion they are feeling and the reason I say this is because we have all seen Barry when he came out of the speed Force in episode 22 of the flash how super positive and optimistic he was and oblivious to danger to some degree being unhealthily optimistic so there's no reason to argue that the negative speed Force would do the opposite to that and release all the negative emotions Apologies for grammar error touchscreen is poor so I am using the voice app
my question is, "how can nora access the negative speed force? If you have access to one you have access to the other? or does she have some special connection to it?"
It seems like any speedster can access either version of the Speed Force if they know how. They all seem to start off with a connection to the regular Speed Force, but can apparently make their own connection with the NSF if they have the right emotional motivation.
It was interesting that the negative speed force can be accessed by going undetected. I assure that everyone knows how the speedsters would enter a speed force. Except the negative speed force is channeled through negative emotions. I remember the scene that Nora West Allen did, when Eobard tells her how to open up the negative speed force. She was unable to do that because her mom Iris is about to arrive into the future and take back her daughter. Unfortunately, that is when Nora channels her negative emotions about either her mom or dad, and quickly runs to create the negative speed force by following Eobard way of opening up the negative speed force. As for Black Flash and Time Wraiths they probably don’t exist in the negative speed force. Because they only exist in the actual speed force. The negative speed force can only be accessed through strong negative emotions.
This makes the whole "losing his powers" thing make more sense. Before it conflicted with how time travel usually works(because if Eobard changed that much shouldn't he just cease to exist? And doesn't the timeline need to solidify?), but now it seems to be more "Eobard need to have a positive speedster to siphon energy from so if there's no Flash he can't do that".
Also, in the comics and I think even in the show (though they've never said it), Barry Allen created and generates the Speed Force for everyone in the multiverse.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf I know but since there's only one Barry that does that until they confirm it's our Barry it could be anyone in the multiverse generating that energy.
@@MakeVarahHappen He has major flaws in his video. He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11. Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed. He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne. Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too. Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
@@ChristianProtossDragoon There's no evidence that Ronnie wouldn't be there if they didn't appear. Which is why I said that he needs to feed of the positive Speedforce so he can't go home until Barry is fast enough to time travel too. Season 2 Eobard is the same Eobard. There is no 2014 timeline Eobard. That's not how time travel works though. You still have time before those changes catch up to you. There's no real evidence one way or another on that. He just calls it "his". Either way, none of this has to do with my comment. Maybe make your own?
Please... He has major flaws in his video. He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11. Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed. He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne. Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too. Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
When Flash was corrupted by the Negative Speed Force in the comics everyone he touched got Thanos' and that's what Black Flash pretty much does in CW so... Mabey it does corrupt speedsters...
I've been waiting for you to do a negative speedforce video since the episode aired since you have always theorized tha there was one in the arrowverse
The negative speed force also followed physics/science a little more than the regular. So as the speedster ran they basically destroyed anything they ran on causing huge amounts of road damage, broken windows and more.
I remember when Barry tried to send Nora back to the future the first time that Cisco said that she was giving off negative tacions so they were trading this kinda of early.
Watching this now that season 6 is out. Revealing that the Speedforce is actually dieing, doesn't that mean Thawne is going loose his speed once the negative Speedforce is unable syfin energy from what is dead.
There's always equal or opposite force. But based on that theory the negative speed force grants any speedsters great speed but over time they lose control and that speed force will control that speedster. That's my theory.
Also you can apparently escape time changes in the negative speed force so you don’t get erased from the timeline it’s said in. The last episode of season five of the flash
Hey can you do a video about Eobard Thawne like what happened to him? Ho look Broken His character is just Broken and disparate I wanna hear your theory about what might happened to or who done that to him because we all know Eobard Thawne never gives up and always have a plan
And because of that Eobard is as fast as Barry is cause negative speedforce absorbs ordinary speedforce so they'll be always equal to each other. Black Flash has both negative speedforce and normal speedforce in himself
@@jadeevades3328 because he's something like a death to speedsters and he has no limits because of that so he's the fastest. He's something like a speedforce in body
@@jadeevades3328 nope. Negative speedforce is only works in it's unique way for Thawne where he's equal to the Flash. For the others it's working just like positive speedforce but Black Flash has both connections so he has no limits and he can run faster than everyone that way is only working for him. Plus as u could see he can feel both negative speedforce and positive sf when for example Barry is able to feel only positive speedforce
I'd say the speed force and the negative speed force on the flash has been to some extent consistent with the fact that positive speed Force users seem to have this super high positive energy and positivity about them and about future tragic experiences that could potentially happen so what's the say the same can't be said for negative speed Force users who only feel the negative feelings of their emotions so the speed Force might give the positive feelings the negative speed Force will give the bad feelings
if negative speedforce is made from negative emotions (like rage etc.), i really wish there would be a reverse flash wearing a red lantern ring. would OP as hell
Have anyone notice that weather witch throws a lightning in the last episode while Barry and Nora was talking in flash time and the lightning went through like 10 or 15 centimeters in 20 seconds at flash time, but a lightning is super fast. Not even close to the speed of light, but is fast. I found something between 60 and 300km/s on google.
Flash time slows everything down extremely lightning may be fast but barry and nora is faster which is why they are able to touch and throw the lighting they create as well as do things like outspeed it to jump in front of it
Well in the comics when eobard created the negative speed force he got powers regular speed force users didn't have he basically became a paradox in the comics and he could alter the past without causing any mistakes in the future unlike regular speedsters who can even summon time wraiths if messing too much with time but eobard didn't have the trouble in the comics He did try to kill barry Allen in his childhood but realised he would be erased from history even though he had the negative speed force so he started tormenting barry as per the comics and in the cw series he made a mistake by killing barry allens mom which made him lose his powers This is my theory as per exactly what was written in the comics and shown in the cw series
Andrew Zahed That’s hard question to answer. lol Mm Well I remember when Nora finally went through the phase of the negative speed force. One point I can recall is that when Nora was younger, she only had her mom who know nothing that her dad is the Flash. Meaning she has the speed force and powers like her father, her mom uses piece of technology on her. Since I already watched all season 5 of the flash. I had a feeling that it’s going to happen, Flash disappearing to the Crisis of Infintie Earths, and leaving his family and friends behind. I believe Nora was upset because she feels like her mom is hiding something, and without her dad she still has her mom. Also lying or telling the truth is probably the painful thing that makes Nora angry or sad.
The essence of the negative speed force must be depended upon its point of origin. Given that Eobard Thawne, fanboy gone severely wrong, claims he spent years trying to tap into the true speed force but failed, they had to build up quite an amount of negative emotions and pessimism. That may have had an influence as to the nature of the need of speed force and what makes it work. Like a snake devouring its own tail. Barry’s speed force is clean and pure bc that’s who he is at his core. He is not ruled by anger or pain or anything remotely negative. And when that lighting bolt struck him, and the speed force was born, it became based upon his own innate character traits. Geoff John’s describes the speed force in the sense that it is a paradoxical energy source that others can tap into if they share Barry’s innate sense of justice. From Jay Garrick to Jessie quick to Wally west, every speedster who became a hero shared Barry’s own sense of right and wrong. The speed force has a consciousness and determines who is worthy of its gifts. The reverse flash is who he is because he was not worthy; he’s a self-deprecating, arrogant, self-centered obsessive compulsive with an inferiority complex and his energy source’s cancerous nature reeks of it. He has no real identity of his own. He has no sense of self worth. All he is is a pale reflection of the flash and that’s all he ever will be by his own hand.
Thawne uses both positive and negative speed force which means that he doesn't use the negative speed all the time because probably the positive speed force has something that the negative doesn't so after Thawne killed Nora Allen Thawne was probably using the Positive speed force to get to the future but at that moment thawne speed just simply collapse and he was stuck in the past forever to where since he was using the positive speed force I guess it just messed up his negative speed force at the point which made his speed unstable to use and in season 1 he uses the tachyon device says "my speed is unstable it comes and go and I cannot control it"
1:50 I think that he only created the negative speed force after s4 and the reason he still had speed and Barry was losing his was cause OG speed force needs to give every speedster speed while negative speed force can only be used by Reverse flash and Nora
Perhaps the negative speed force has red lightning because of it taping in to the main speed force and as a result is in essence corrupt as it uses the normal speed force to power its self. May be the red in some ways reflects this but as depicted before a corrupt connection causes red lightning and since the negative speed force feeds off main speed force it corrupts the energy it takes. O and side note. Barry generating the speed force. When Barry potentially died in season 2 while trying to get his powers back. (When Jesse got her powers inimically) The speed force talking to Barry as Joe tells him that it was there when the universe was created and will be there when the universe dies. Also if the speed force sends time wraiths to kill Barry if he did in the show generate the speed force him self then wouldn't the speed force potentially be committing suicide by trying to take out Barry with the time wraiths for breaking its rules. Just a thought.
I've been thinking and now that we have season 6 wrapped up, this stuff has been pretty much proven wrong. I mean, Eobard can still use his negative speedforce even after the speedforce died.
Zoom can at least claim the speed force chose him yet zoom didn’t know the fate the speed force gave hime was to be the black flash the grim reaper of speed
I have a theory. After he killed his mom, he had to create a new speed force. The negative speed force because before that, he was just using the speed force. Now, hence the timeline changing in order to get his speed back he had to make his own speed force.
I know this vid is about the neg speedforce but while I watched The flash I totally forgot Cicada is post to be the big bad and since season 4 I am more interested in Nora and Barry relationship than anything else not as much now because it seems it's not going to do anything new or fresh do anyone agree somewhat.?
Unknown Oh wait a minute people almost forgot about Cicada. lol It’s confusing to tell what made Nora look like baddie using the negative speed force. Was it Cicada II anger or Nora’s anger? It feels like Nora’s anger than Cicada II anger. Because she’s not the person who would be upset over lies. Nora’s anger was channeled by the lies or truth that her mom Iris has been hiding. In comparison to Grace as Cicada II, she heard her Foster father voice and with those negative emotions is what made Grace adult self as Cicada II a Meta Hunter. Grace as an adult inherit her foster fathers anger, and wanting to take revenge for his daughter. It’s interesting that Nora’s negative speed force or consciousness is connected to Grace and Cicada II. Because before Nora tried to save Grace to take the cure. Due to Grace stubbornness and calling her a liar. I feel like the negative emotions she experiences with lying is sometimes taking a toll on Nora. Because Nora was taught how to lie from Eobard Thawne.
On the show we saw the Speedforce send out its Enforcers (the Time Wraiths), we've seen the Speedforce pose as people. Ie Nora, Joe, Henry, Iris. Can the negative speedforce do that too?
Silent Gamer2015 No I don’t think so and I don’t think speedsters would use the negative speed force. Why? It must be open through negative emotions. Time Wraiths only exist from the speed force, and probably knows nothing of negative speed force. Evil speedsters like Eobard Thawne was only one who was able to become who he is using the negative speed force to go undetected.
And time wraiths only popped up for reverse flash once he became a paradox but the reverse flash fixed this when Barry created flash point reverse took steps to make sure he exists
Yeah he shouldn't be able to do that speed force is gone so negative speed force has nothing to gain power from meaning he shouldn't be able to run fast
Why not just have the negative speedforce slow down time outside instead? Just like how the normal speedforce gives you more speed such as if barry can run mach 6, then reverse flash can slow time down outside which makes him look like he's going mach 6 but he's actually just going at a normal human speed which he can 'technically' match barry's speed. So basically they're going at a normal speed when they fight.
I Expected it to be the opposite of Speed force... you know being able to run much slower than anyone else..being able to tap into the Slow force, making him the slowest person alive, and his name is Eobard Thawne!
This is crazy because this means Eobard Thawne might actually be a decent guy. All this time, there was some inconsistency in his character and it was almost as if he was telling us this. Every single time he describes how he wanted to be The Flash, he sounds completely obsessed and it's sort of implied he lost his mind. Over the series' duration, I've noticed something off about him. He seems to switch back and forth between being a reasonable guy "that just wants to exist" - like in that episode where he was working with Ray Palmer to get them home safely - and a murderous psychopath - like in that episode where he all but tortured Stein to steal his identity. Up until now, I thought this was bad writing, but now we have a possible explanation as to why he makes these switches: the negative speed force is influencing him to turn evil.
The negative speed force dosent turn you evil. Yes it makes you alittle more of an asshole but not all out evil. In fact the negative speedforce wouldve never existed if thawn never became evil to begin with.
What you mean? Blue breaches represents a portal being created to another dimension or time.. The red breach means your leaving out of the negative speed force, We never saw thawne enter or leave the NSF it was Nora.
@@jadeevades3328 Thawne first created the Negative Speed Force and is using it throughout the show. But we never see him breach through a red portal like how Nora did.
another interesting thing is that the negative speed force turns the bottom half of the speedster suit black as shown with Nora at the beginning of gone rouge and explains the colors for the reverse flashes suit
one thing i never understood is in the scene where gidean tells reverse flash he lost his powers, she says “your ability to run ag super speeds and travel through time has been completely depleted” just isn’t true. he’s able to still run as we can see him vibrating and talking distorted (as well as being faster than barry)
Barry being Evil is the last thing for a Daughter to see based on season 5 Ep 11 we know she will They can love each other based on Mother and son Nora is learning her dads secrets all of them #keepitGoing
I'm pretty sure the best way to explain it is it's like alcohol and it amplifies your emotions, but for this it amplifies the negative emotions you use to tap into it
In the latest episode's promo (5x21), Nora is seemingly dying due to something. Can it be a result of her using both the Negative and Positive Speedforce? Or it could just be that the timeline is finally catching up to her.
Random dudes: Negative SpeedForce doesnt exist on CW The Flash
Me: What? Can you speak any louder? I CANT HEAR YOU! *CAN YOU SPEAK ANY LOUDER, PLEASE?*
True, I been telling people this and they think your crazy lol
Lol
@@jadeevades3328
My theory has been confirmed!(and it was posted back in 2017):
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I mean that doesn't mean they weren't wrong. The whole argument that that people were assuming baselessly. Now they have evidence. Hooray.
@Professor Zoom but they also said there was no evidence, and it had evidences since season 1
I love that when Barry phased into Savitar's exo-suit, it glowed red, and Savitar said "Oh my god, its so clear now."
What did he mean by that? Was he saying that he realized Barry created the Speed Force or something?
He said "now I see... it's written"
@@clintwest8946 what does he mean by that? What is written?
@@herizefell1431 he means that it's written for Barry to become savitar since he said that after Barry phased into his suit.
@@clintwest8946 actually im pretty sure he saw nora there to get the savitar suit piece, so he meant that the timeline was written and he was meant to lose
The second Thawne spoke the word "Negative" in that episode, I thought " 'Comics' better be making a video on this ASAP."
You've been callin' this for a while.
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I'll do you one better...why is the speedforce
The question no one asks is, How is the speedforce
@Parv Touche, but what no one knows or think about the speedorce is who is speedforce
I will do you one better....how is speedforce?
@@adi_g It had already been asked, we have asked all the questions of the universe
TheAdmin27 I’ll do y’all even better, *Which is the spedforCe?*
Evidently the Negative Speed Force made Nora run better as well.
It just gave her speed boosts and agression
@Elena Monfils you just jealous. Because negative speed force is better than positive speed force
@@ibadullah4583 stfu 🤫
@@whogoncutdagrass41 yup
@@ibadullah4583 nora will always be superior than whatever personification of the negative speed force exists
Actually the Black Flash using the negative speed-force does explain how it was able to track Thawne if the whole point of using the negative speed-force is to remain hidden from other speedsters.
black flash with negative sppedforce also explains why he was always as fast as any speedster!!! brains are cool
And also when speedsters connected to negative speed force can make speedsters lightning red
The black flash had red lightning but he was not using the negative speedforce, the reason black flash's lightning is red is because he has a corrupted connection to the speedforce, another thing is, when zoom was turned into black flash, the time wraiths sent by the normal speed force are the ones who transformed him into black flash, why would the time wraiths from the normal speed force allow black flash to tap into the negative speed force, when the negative speed force is like a parasite from the normal speed force
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I love how they show that the negative speed force could be burned off by Speedster running at their top speed while focusing on the positive the way Barry did it in the comics
Not in the show Nora still had the negative speed force even after she returned to team flash
Negative speed force name drop was awesome
I LOVE the video. The explanation of it is really awesome, hearing your explanation as others are different when they tell about the Speedforce.
That was the Negative Speedforce on the show the whole time. But he finally confirmed the name of it. I was geeking out when I heard him give his speed the name, as is in the comics.
He has major flaws in his video.
He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11.
Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed.
He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne.
Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too.
Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
Those 3 dislikes are Thawne, Zoom, and Savitar. 😂
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Tarker Who's Savitar. Wasn't he the villain so badly written that I had to wipe my memory to forget that catastrophe of a villain who was killed by A BULLET. lol
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The Brotherhood yeah that guy 😂 his suit was cool tho
You could basically make the comparison that the speed force is the light side of the force, and the negative speed force is the dark side of the force.
The Negative side of the Speed Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
I wouldn't really say that. They don't have a duality, and its not like evil speedsters all draw their power from the negative speedforce, whereas good ones use the regular speedforce. The only speedster that has ever used the negative speedforce was thawne until dc rebirth, where Barry got it for a very short (and very shitty arc) and meena, who stole it from Barry at the end of that arc.
@@Just_Red_ i was referencing the fact that the negative speedforce is only accessed by allowing the negative emotions such as anger, hate, jealousy to take over you and you dwell on those emotions, which is how you tap into and maintain your connection to the dark side. There is a clear difference between the two, but there are similarities at the same time
@@Cab00se23 I mean that's really only a thing in the TV show, and it's pretty stupid imo. Not sure if you were taking specifically about the show or in general
@@Just_Red_ i was referencing the show. I know comics are different. It was just funny to me how they portrayed accessing the negative speed force
Pssh... Not as great as “The Slow Force.”
L Guffee oh oh I use that
You mean the still force?
@Snoi Med Or the Strength Force? Lookout people, we have a fellow comic fan/fan of all things flash/DC, give him a round of applause, and I'm not even joking, give him a round of applause!
@dragon warrior66 Depo force?
You Mean the stoney force
1. In the show, Barry wouldn't have had created the Speedforce because they been there since the big bang.
2. Eobard losing his speed in season 1 is because of the disappearance of Original 2020 Barry, which is why he gave Barry his speed much earlier so he can have a more stable connection to the NSF.
3. This can also explain him still having the memories of Flash season 1 in Legends season 2.
4. Even tho Eobard is connected to the NSP, the SP can still send Time Wraiths after him since they are both connected.
1. The Speed Force in the comics existed since the beginning of time too, but only after Barry got his powers and spread from that point throughout all time and space. The show could do something wonky like that, if the writers were up to it.
2. You're right, I mentioned this in one of my other videos too. I was just trying to further tie in the NSP to that event, but I guess I didn't word it well.
3. Wasn't that supposed to be explained away by the SF language he and Nora were using? I thought somebody (writer, showrunner, etc.) said that was the reason Eobard always seemed to remember everything even when that version couldn't have been involved with some event or another?
4. True. Interested to see how the writers expand on this idea in later episodes.
@@ComicBooksvsTheWorld I'm guessing that's another different thing about NSF in the comics vs Tv show
Comics: can alter time without consequences
Tv: Still get Time Wraths and Black flash (probably dead) after you.
Comic Books vs The World @3 wasnt it because he was a temporal duplicate?
@@ComicBooksvsTheWorld The writers are stupid, they forget a lot of things. I doubt they will explain the SF symbols.
Well Barrys powers creates the speed force this is a comic and show fact, all Barry did was inadvertently discover it
So The Negative Speed-Force is just like the Positive Speed-Force but since the Negative Speed-Force is the opposite of its Positive counterpart it has different alterations such as while having Positive Speed-Force and having Red Lightning is the Slowest lightning but since the Negative Speed-Force is the REVERSE version of the positive Speed-Force then that means having Negative Speed-Force while having Red Lightning makes you the fastest evil Speedster alive
But what is that monster that passed iris’s dad like that creature monster scream that went soooooo fast
Technically it would just do the same pattern but the other way. So red is still slower. (Following light ruleS)
You're my DAD and so smart been waiting for this
As Gideon stated, "Your cells contain no TRACES of the speed force." Meaning when he created the negative speed force he still a small portion of the NSF (Normal Speed Force) in his cells. I can prove this point because its similar to what happened to Wally and Barry after they found out that the speed force has been destroyed, they had it in them but only what was left. Going back to the point of RF(Reverse-Flash) thats why the portal he came through was of the NSF as well as the fact that the RF's speed force has been siphoning energy off of the NSF, but not draining it of its power, that's also the reason why in the episode of XS(Nora West-Allen) when she ran inside of the speed force there was no lightning following her inside because besides XS, Thawne was the only other speedster in there meaning that he controls it entirely unlike the Speed Force that XS, KF(Kid Flash), TF(The Flash), And Zoom use where it has a controller that will go after speedsters that mess with the time line.
Me before video: What is the negative speed force?
Me after video: SERIOUSLY, WTF IS THE NEGATIVE SPEED FORCE
Its just a reversed speed force its like a personal speed force but its negative so flash doesn’t find eobard
Waited for this FOR SO LONG 😂
Same, I even suggested this video on his endgame post
the negative speed force is like like a vacuum cleaner that drains the normal speed force, its like his own battery being charged by the normal speed force
You also forgot that reverse flashes powers are somewhat different from Barry’s with the negative speed force. Rather than moving faster than time like Barry, Eobard’s speed is generated by slowing down time to move and process the same information as Barry. If that makes sense.
Edit: And no, I’m not taking about Hunter Zolomon’s Time control powers. I’m talking about Professor Zoom’s (Reverse Flash) Negative Speed Force.
I remember you liked my comment about asking you to do a vid on the negative speedforce, thank you for making the vid after I asked!
The Purple and Red lightning of Nora are the best
To me zoom blue lightning is best
YO! This is a cool episode! I’ve always wandered what the negative speed force is. So thx bro! Love the vids,
Barry making his own speedforce now
Purple and red lighting was dope.
I dont really like the color combo
I honestly like the purple/yellow color combination better
Red didn't fit for me lol
The first that came to my mind, was this fictional conversation:
Reverse Flash: "I have created the Negative Speed Force!"
Flash: "Does that mean you're as fast as a snail now, or that you can only run backwards really fast?" XD
it a little bit negative
LOL
They can make a episode of the origin of the negative speed forces and ooooo he said he could never be the flash and always has to be the reverse of everything that was also on the comics
I also think that the negative speed Force can draw out the more negative feelings and emotions in negative speed Force users however we don't really see that until they become angry because that's when they start to uncontrollably vibrate and have the red eyes reverse-flash I'd say has way more control over that than Nora but whenever we've seen the reverse flash get pissed off his eyes light up red and when he's in the suit and he gets angry he vibrates and my theory as to why that happens is because the speedsters emotions are all over the place and with the negative speed Force fuelling that rage or emotion they are feeling and the reason I say this is because we have all seen Barry when he came out of the speed Force in episode 22 of the flash how super positive and optimistic he was and oblivious to danger to some degree being unhealthily optimistic so there's no reason to argue that the negative speed Force would do the opposite to that and release all the negative emotions
Apologies for grammar error touchscreen is poor so I am using the voice app
I feel like Barry should've done that since Season 1 then if that's the case
@@nerdgamer2749 it took going into the speed Force to be able to generate that type of emotion just like when Nora went into the negative speed Force
@@epicmonkey6663 Oh ok, that makes sense👌
my question is, "how can nora access the negative speed force? If you have access to one you have access to the other? or does she have some special connection to it?"
It seems like any speedster can access either version of the Speed Force if they know how. They all seem to start off with a connection to the regular Speed Force, but can apparently make their own connection with the NSF if they have the right emotional motivation.
Comic Books vs The World correct 😁😁
It was interesting that the negative speed force can be accessed by going undetected. I assure that everyone knows how the speedsters would enter a speed force. Except the negative speed force is channeled through negative emotions.
I remember the scene that Nora West Allen did, when Eobard tells her how to open up the negative speed force. She was unable to do that because her mom Iris is about to arrive into the future and take back her daughter.
Unfortunately, that is when Nora channels her negative emotions about either her mom or dad, and quickly runs to create the negative speed force by following Eobard way of opening up the negative speed force.
As for Black Flash and Time Wraiths they probably don’t exist in the negative speed force. Because they only exist in the actual speed force. The negative speed force can only be accessed through strong negative emotions.
This makes the whole "losing his powers" thing make more sense. Before it conflicted with how time travel usually works(because if Eobard changed that much shouldn't he just cease to exist? And doesn't the timeline need to solidify?), but now it seems to be more "Eobard need to have a positive speedster to siphon energy from so if there's no Flash he can't do that".
Also, in the comics and I think even in the show (though they've never said it), Barry Allen created and generates the Speed Force for everyone in the multiverse.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf I know but since there's only one Barry that does that until they confirm it's our Barry it could be anyone in the multiverse generating that energy.
@@MakeVarahHappen
He has major flaws in his video.
He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11.
Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed.
He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne.
Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too.
Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
@@ChristianProtossDragoon There's no evidence that Ronnie wouldn't be there if they didn't appear.
Which is why I said that he needs to feed of the positive Speedforce so he can't go home until Barry is fast enough to time travel too.
Season 2 Eobard is the same Eobard. There is no 2014 timeline Eobard.
That's not how time travel works though. You still have time before those changes catch up to you.
There's no real evidence one way or another on that. He just calls it "his".
Either way, none of this has to do with my comment. Maybe make your own?
@@ChristianProtossDragoon the original timeline is flashpoint season 3
Positive speed force: Jedi Council
Negative Speed force: The Empire
Can we get a video on how fast young Justice Wally West is?
Ur videos keep getting better and better! Keep it up man
Edit: Thanks for the heart man!
Please...
He has major flaws in his video.
He keeps saying there is an original timeline. But there is not. The showrunners made that obvious with the whole Nora-Barry trip to s1x01. It was their presence that made Wellsobard have Ronnie in the particle accelerator room. And Eobard's appearance in 2x10/11.
Second, if Original Timeline Barry's disappearance caused Eobard's loss of speed, then he would have gotten it back the moment he turned Barry into The Flash. However, he did have it. Gideon's statement was on his current condition, but later we see Eobard killing Wells and hiding his body with super speed.
He says there is an Original Timeline Eobard Thawne. Yet he uses S2 Eobard's origins for Original Thawne.
Also, the Negative Speed Force protects you from timeline changes only when you are inside it. If you are out: you are subjected to timeline changes too.
Also, Eobard did not really create the Negative Speed Force in the literal sense of word, he was just the one to discover it "first".
thanks comic for another amazing vid
holy shit he liked my comment
I litterly waited this long for this video
When Flash was corrupted by the Negative Speed Force in the comics everyone he touched got Thanos' and that's what Black Flash pretty much does in CW so... Mabey it does corrupt speedsters...
I've been waiting for you to do a negative speedforce video since the episode aired since you have always theorized tha there was one in the arrowverse
Negative Speed Force: doesn’t screw with the time line
Barry: I NEED THISSS
Great work keep it up!
Those 26 dislikes are thawne /. reverse flashes after images
A Speed Mirage, if you will.
The negative speed force also followed physics/science a little more than the regular. So as the speedster ran they basically destroyed anything they ran on causing huge amounts of road damage, broken windows and more.
You sir, are a GENIUS
I remember when Barry tried to send Nora back to the future the first time that Cisco said that she was giving off negative tacions so they were trading this kinda of early.
Watching this now that season 6 is out. Revealing that the Speedforce is actually dieing, doesn't that mean Thawne is going loose his speed once the negative Speedforce is unable syfin energy from what is dead.
There's always equal or opposite force.
But based on that theory the negative speed force grants any speedsters great speed but over time they lose control and that speed force will control that speedster.
That's my theory.
Also you can apparently escape time changes in the negative speed force so you don’t get erased from the timeline it’s said in. The last episode of season five of the flash
It's possible Rival and Black Flash are using it. Afterall the only requisites are that you have to be a speedster and have enough negative emotions.
Nice Video! You explained it very well!
Hey can you do a video about Eobard Thawne like what happened to him? Ho look Broken His character is just Broken and disparate I wanna hear your theory about what might happened to or who done that to him because we all know Eobard Thawne never gives up and always have a plan
And because of that Eobard is as fast as Barry is cause negative speedforce absorbs ordinary speedforce so they'll be always equal to each other.
Black Flash has both negative speedforce and normal speedforce in himself
How does black flash has both?
@@jadeevades3328 because he's something like a death to speedsters and he has no limits because of that so he's the fastest. He's something like a speedforce in body
@@-TheCapedCrusader- So it would make sense if he only has the negative speed force not positive.
@@jadeevades3328 nope. Negative speedforce is only works in it's unique way for Thawne where he's equal to the Flash. For the others it's working just like positive speedforce but Black Flash has both connections so he has no limits and he can run faster than everyone that way is only working for him. Plus as u could see he can feel both negative speedforce and positive sf when for example Barry is able to feel only positive speedforce
@@-TheCapedCrusader- That's sounds like a assumption than a fact, it was never really confirmed that's right. But it's a nice assumption you have.
Bro love the vids they are the best #NOTIFICATIONSQUAD
I'd say the speed force and the negative speed force on the flash has been to some extent consistent with the fact that positive speed Force users seem to have this super high positive energy and positivity about them and about future tragic experiences that could potentially happen so what's the say the same can't be said for negative speed Force users who only feel the negative feelings of their emotions so the speed Force might give the positive feelings the negative speed Force will give the bad feelings
if negative speedforce is made from negative emotions (like rage etc.), i really wish there would be a reverse flash wearing a red lantern ring. would OP as hell
Have anyone notice that weather witch throws a lightning in the last episode while Barry and Nora was talking in flash time and the lightning went through like 10 or 15 centimeters in 20 seconds at flash time, but a lightning is super fast. Not even close to the speed of light, but is fast. I found something between 60 and 300km/s on google.
Flash time slows everything down extremely lightning may be fast but barry and nora is faster which is why they are able to touch and throw the lighting they create as well as do things like outspeed it to jump in front of it
wally in s2 hit 910km/s
I just can't wait for the finale reverse flash vs the flash And I don't know what going to happen to Nora
Its like the dark side of the force from star wars, great job comics!
Well in the comics when eobard created the negative speed force he got powers regular speed force users didn't have he basically became a paradox in the comics and he could alter the past without causing any mistakes in the future unlike regular speedsters who can even summon time wraiths if messing too much with time but eobard didn't have the trouble in the comics
He did try to kill barry Allen in his childhood but realised he would be erased from history even though he had the negative speed force so he started tormenting barry as per the comics and in the cw series he made a mistake by killing barry allens mom which made him lose his powers
This is my theory as per exactly what was written in the comics and shown in the cw series
Thawne became a living paradox because of Flashpoint.
gotta question: do you think the red eyes ae due to seeing the angry memories?
Andrew Zahed That’s hard question to answer. lol
Mm Well I remember when Nora finally went through the phase of the negative speed force. One point I can recall is that when Nora was younger, she only had her mom who know nothing that her dad is the Flash. Meaning she has the speed force and powers like her father, her mom uses piece of technology on her.
Since I already watched all season 5 of the flash. I had a feeling that it’s going to happen, Flash disappearing to the Crisis of Infintie Earths, and leaving his family and friends behind.
I believe Nora was upset because she feels like her mom is hiding something, and without her dad she still has her mom. Also lying or telling the truth is probably the painful thing that makes Nora angry or sad.
The essence of the negative speed force must be depended upon its point of origin. Given that Eobard Thawne, fanboy gone severely wrong, claims he spent years trying to tap into the true speed force but failed, they had to build up quite an amount of negative emotions and pessimism. That may have had an influence as to the nature of the need of speed force and what makes it work. Like a snake devouring its own tail. Barry’s speed force is clean and pure bc that’s who he is at his core. He is not ruled by anger or pain or anything remotely negative. And when that lighting bolt struck him, and the speed force was born, it became based upon his own innate character traits. Geoff John’s describes the speed force in the sense that it is a paradoxical energy source that others can tap into if they share Barry’s innate sense of justice. From Jay Garrick to Jessie quick to Wally west, every speedster who became a hero shared Barry’s own sense of right and wrong. The speed force has a consciousness and determines who is worthy of its gifts. The reverse flash is who he is because he was not worthy; he’s a self-deprecating, arrogant, self-centered obsessive compulsive with an inferiority complex and his energy source’s cancerous nature reeks of it. He has no real identity of his own. He has no sense of self worth. All he is is a pale reflection of the flash and that’s all he ever will be by his own hand.
I want to see both Zoom and The Black Flash back at some point.
Say black flash back really fast.
what zoom is black flash
I miss Black Flash
@@ulysses4989 hard
@@blueray2165 no its a time wrauth that has taken over hus body
Thawne uses both positive and negative speed force which means that he doesn't use the negative speed all the time because probably the positive speed force has something that the negative doesn't so after Thawne killed Nora Allen Thawne was probably using the Positive speed force to get to the future but at that moment thawne speed just simply collapse and he was stuck in the past forever to where since he was using the positive speed force I guess it just messed up his negative speed force at the point which made his speed unstable to use and in season 1 he uses the tachyon device says "my speed is unstable it comes and go and I cannot control it"
1:50 I think that he only created the negative speed force after s4 and the reason he still had speed and Barry was losing his was cause OG speed force needs to give every speedster speed while negative speed force can only be used by Reverse flash and Nora
So basically, what yo are telling me is, that it gives you red lightning, red eyes, and a scary ass voice,
Alright deal, I accept your offer.
Perhaps the negative speed force has red lightning because of it taping in to the main
speed force and as a result is in essence corrupt as it uses the
normal speed force to power its self. May be the red in some ways
reflects this but as depicted before a corrupt connection causes red
lightning and since the negative speed force feeds off main speed
force it corrupts the energy it takes.
O and side note.
Barry generating the speed force. When Barry potentially died in
season 2 while trying to get his powers back. (When Jesse got her
powers inimically) The speed force talking to Barry as Joe tells him
that it was there when the universe was created and will be there
when the universe dies. Also if the speed force sends time wraiths to
kill Barry if he did in the show generate the speed force him self
then wouldn't the speed force potentially be committing suicide by
trying to take out Barry with the time wraiths for breaking its
rules. Just a thought.
I've been thinking and now that we have season 6 wrapped up, this stuff has been pretty much proven wrong. I mean, Eobard can still use his negative speedforce even after the speedforce died.
Zoom can at least claim the speed force chose him yet zoom didn’t know the fate the speed force gave hime was to be the black flash the grim reaper of speed
So we not gon talk about how scarlet witch was about to kill thanos but he called in the barrage
Not on a dc related vid no
Damn I really wish the red negative speed force was shown back in s1 when he time travelled
I have a theory. After he killed his mom, he had to create a new speed force. The negative speed force because before that, he was just using the speed force. Now, hence the timeline changing in order to get his speed back he had to make his own speed force.
I know this vid is about the neg speedforce but while I watched The flash I totally forgot Cicada is post to be the big bad and since season 4 I am more interested in Nora and Barry relationship than anything else not as much now because it seems it's not going to do anything new or fresh do anyone agree somewhat.?
Unknown Oh wait a minute people almost forgot about Cicada. lol
It’s confusing to tell what made Nora look like baddie using the negative speed force. Was it Cicada II anger or Nora’s anger? It feels like Nora’s anger than Cicada II anger. Because she’s not the person who would be upset over lies.
Nora’s anger was channeled by the lies or truth that her mom Iris has been hiding. In comparison to Grace as Cicada II, she heard her Foster father voice and with those negative emotions is what made Grace adult self as Cicada II a Meta Hunter. Grace as an adult inherit her foster fathers anger, and wanting to take revenge for his daughter.
It’s interesting that Nora’s negative speed force or consciousness is connected to Grace and Cicada II. Because before Nora tried to save Grace to take the cure. Due to Grace stubbornness and calling her a liar. I feel like the negative emotions she experiences with lying is sometimes taking a toll on Nora. Because Nora was taught how to lie from Eobard Thawne.
On the show we saw the Speedforce send out its Enforcers (the Time Wraiths), we've seen the Speedforce pose as people. Ie Nora, Joe, Henry, Iris.
Can the negative speedforce do that too?
Silent Gamer2015 No I don’t think so and I don’t think speedsters would use the negative speed force.
Why? It must be open through negative emotions. Time Wraiths only exist from the speed force, and probably knows nothing of negative speed force.
Evil speedsters like Eobard Thawne was only one who was able to become who he is using the negative speed force to go undetected.
And time wraiths only popped up for reverse flash once he became a paradox but the reverse flash fixed this when Barry created flash point reverse took steps to make sure he exists
The speed force died a few episodes ago but on the newest episode thawne was still able to use the negative speed force some what
Yeah he shouldn't be able to do that speed force is gone so negative speed force has nothing to gain power from meaning he shouldn't be able to run fast
Didn't, in S1, evil wells say that Barry generates Speed Force energy when he runs?
I think so
Why not just have the negative speedforce slow down time outside instead? Just like how the normal speedforce gives you more speed such as if barry can run mach 6, then reverse flash can slow time down outside which makes him look like he's going mach 6 but he's actually just going at a normal human speed which he can 'technically' match barry's speed. So basically they're going at a normal speed when they fight.
I Expected it to be the opposite of Speed force... you know being able to run much slower than anyone else..being able to tap into the Slow force, making him the slowest person alive, and his name is Eobard Thawne!
So the new speed force Barry is trying to create now is the actual speed force we are coming full circle
This is crazy because this means Eobard Thawne might actually be a decent guy.
All this time, there was some inconsistency in his character and it was almost as if he was telling us this. Every single time he describes how he wanted to be The Flash, he sounds completely obsessed and it's sort of implied he lost his mind. Over the series' duration, I've noticed something off about him. He seems to switch back and forth between being a reasonable guy "that just wants to exist" - like in that episode where he was working with Ray Palmer to get them home safely - and a murderous psychopath - like in that episode where he all but tortured Stein to steal his identity.
Up until now, I thought this was bad writing, but now we have a possible explanation as to why he makes these switches: the negative speed force is influencing him to turn evil.
The negative speed force dosent turn you evil. Yes it makes you alittle more of an asshole but not all out evil. In fact the negative speedforce wouldve never existed if thawn never became evil to begin with.
@@goodeats5845
Rival? Zoom? Both existed before Thawne.
@@ChristianProtossDragoon no
Hey Love your vids
Why didn't Reverse Flash travel through a red breach in previous seasons?
To fight the flash
@@justinsaehoon What about in Season 2 when Eobard first travelled back to that time period
@@Bryan-dr5qy plot hole idk 😂
What you mean? Blue breaches represents a portal being created to another dimension or time..
The red breach means your leaving out of the negative speed force, We never saw thawne enter or leave the NSF it was Nora.
@@jadeevades3328 Thawne first created the Negative Speed Force and is using it throughout the show. But we never see him breach through a red portal like how Nora did.
another interesting thing is that the negative speed force turns the bottom half of the speedster suit black as shown with Nora at the beginning of gone rouge and explains the colors for the reverse flashes suit
Can you make a video predicting what season 6 is gonna be like plot wise
when eobard thawne whisper its so inspirational
Hans Zimmer in the intro huh, great!
one thing i never understood is in the scene where gidean tells reverse flash he lost his powers, she says “your ability to run ag super speeds and travel through time has been completely depleted” just isn’t true. he’s able to still run as we can see him vibrating and talking distorted (as well as being faster than barry)
The reason his speedforce was never created because flash never used one
Nice intro!
Oh how right you are, sir.
Barry being Evil is the last thing for a Daughter to see based on season 5 Ep 11 we know she will They can love each other based on Mother and son Nora is learning her dads secrets all of them #keepitGoing
Your videos are legit I like them 🤙🏻
I'm pretty sure the best way to explain it is it's like alcohol and it amplifies your emotions, but for this it amplifies the negative emotions you use to tap into it
Can you do a video who is the 21st-century the flash. And what is about him
So... if this works the other way, that’s why Oliver queen flash couldn’t phase until he was happy
Video idea: how fast is sonic the hedgehog
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The negative speedforce is basically a little kid begging for his big brother to give him candy but instead of candy its energy
If Barry was an alien his name would be Barry All(i)en
Great vid
The only dislike is Eobart Thawne
Other 5 is his time remnants
the other 3 are The Black Flash, The Rival, and Nora on negative speedforce
Eobard
@@Peterdubs they are call speed mirages
@@samcochran8203 black flash is not in the negitive
In the latest episode's promo (5x21), Nora is seemingly dying due to something. Can it be a result of her using both the Negative and Positive Speedforce? Or it could just be that the timeline is finally catching up to her.
That’s cool that they introduced the negative speed force in the tv show