Occultist Self Cast Dark Pact - Bringing in the Big DPS vs Endgame
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
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All in all, Dark Pact is a pretty strong skill (...surprise) and Occultist can for sure put up a fight against Berserker though it's still hard to justify unless you're going straight up Void Batteries. A very fun character when self casting and a skill I recommend trying at least once.
Also: Occultist has Profane Bloom, which is useful for making large monster packs explode for clearing.
Jeezus christ, every build I make I'm super happy if I get more than 150K DPS and ok survivability, but every single build you make seems to be able to tank the shit out of endgame AND have millions DPS. Thanks for sharing the Path of Building. It's a very simple and efficient way to give us a build guide which we can then tinker around with.
Just throwing it out there Self cast DP assassin is great too.
Another fairly smooth video från Mathil.
Hey Mathil, awesome build, however a little flow here - Nightstalker crit/phys nodes near life/es - I'm almost sure that these Dagger Crit nodes won't work with dark pact - correct me if I'm wrong :P +3 points to spend if I'm correct!
6k life? You sick or something Mathil?
average life totals are up because life got buffed.
+1500 es
Life is irrelevant if you don't let shaper hit you. I farm him and I have 4.6k life.
Everything short of perfection is irrelevant.
bc life giv you more damage lmao
i wonder if a necromancer using the scourge claw would be an option. might theorycraft that in pob.
I've been playing Hidden Potential self-cast Occultist DP. The DPS is absurd (red map bosses are like +%life rares). However, I don't seem to be able to sustain my health on guardians due to the curse effectiveness penalty. I have level 20 warlord's w/ about 12% quality and some curse effectiveness on tree. I'm 6L. What am I doing wrong? Not enough DPS? I suppose I can just 5L + LL gem, but I'd rather solve the problem first if possible.
Go for more damage. Sustaining life with VP on guardians/shaper shouldn't be much of an issue with flasks up. Boot enchant also goes a long way, even if it does look mediocre
POB says my DPS is just over 700k (w/ 6,668 life). Not sure how much I believe that. What should my target be?
Boot enchant + Atziri's Promise might be enough, though. I'll test that. I wasn't using Promise, which was duuuumb.
And for clarity, the quality is on WL, but on Blasphemy, which gives curse effectiveness to WL. My bad!
That is total dps. While it may serve as a good all arounder, I never trust the total dps calculation. 700k is enough for the content, everything over 400k in total is enough for the content (but ofcourse, that depends on the build and the player, dark pact with 800k will kill shaper decently fast, where, for example, scorching ray with 800k will have issues). The issue I have with PoB is that it calculates total dps and includes movement speed as well, and everything into account (for example, take archer with queen of the forest and proper boots, and then replace the queen with generic rare or belly and kaoms roots, your total dps count in PoB will go down). I am well aware of the clear speed meta, but I don't give a crap about clear speed meta, so I don't trust that it calculates the "actual" dps.
Yes, Atziri's Promise will most likely fix your leech issues.
can someone explain how he gets arcane surge to last 20 seconds
post 3.1 , this build with Vaal Pact will be very very rough. :x
hey man,
thanks for the build. but a short question: im playing the same build but optimized for beserker. the problem is, my arcane surge doesnt trigger when i use immortal call. its only triggered when i hit that threshold. do you know why?
with no chaos res and the 10% increased damage taken.. doedres flask proccs a savage hit on you all the time and gives you the needed power-charges :)
Not entirely sure how to handle Stuns. They are what usually kills me. Pantheon gets me only so far. I mean I suppose 3k hp for tier8 is not exactly enough, but still... what are you gentlemen and ladies doing to handle this issue?
grab a kaom's roots if stun really bother you that much otherwise go for more life and other def flask would be nice too
Hey Mathil.
Would it be viable getting curse from tree, then respecing into Eb/mom, wicked ward and vile bastion, for more survivability?
With the clear speed the es regen will in theory be solid ?
Putting your es at around 1800, would be enough for 6k life.
since your using blood magic your not damaging your es pool with your spells.
Atziri Spledour as armor? Is it viable? semm nice with 100life and some very sweet regen on kill...
that Life Leech/Hit ratio on berserker lolol
Hey how he get the explosion like that ?? white gore something .. my are normal
dang yo
Thoughts on Cherrubim's Maleficence on this one?
I feel like 6k life seems really low on self-casting Dark Pact.
I assume you'd use Lightning Warp if you go for 2x Void Battery?
Path of Dark Pact is the new name of the game
Can't leech back from boss with just warlord mark. The hp consumption rate is too high
Is there a way to find the leveling skill tree/ leveling uniques for this build?
Dark pact is going to be my last build of this season until next summer league. Can someone tell me if DP scales with Health, Chaos damage and spell damage? Or only health and chaos? I also have 1 void battery should I use it on my set up 🤔 I also have a 6L cherrubim and Belly of the beast too
What would be some good items to get if you got a 2k chaos budget?
Mathil, is it possible to play dark pact occultist as new league starter ?
did he say that he deals 1.5 milion DPS ?!
What gems on gloves? Spell totem and....? Also what on shield?
Hi, would you mind explaining why u pick attack speed on gloves and cast speed on rings?
Attack speed for shield charge, cast speed is just obvious.
You can't get cast speed on gloves :P
Dont know what you mean here bud. You can get cast speed on gloves, even though just for socketed gems, with essence of insanity. Even then, nobody mentioned cast speed on gloves.
yeah lets argue about what nobody said........nobody said you were a fuck face......which is why im defending the fact that you arent.......mm semantics for fuck faces 101
wounder if this build will be effected in 3.1 and vaal packs nerf?
What do you recommend for Ascendancy order?
Do the skele mage thing mathil. Got lucky and 6l a queens decree with 100fusings (=
If you were on standard and were willing to dump 200 to 300 exalt into it, what would u change
Go for GG gear. GG rings and amulet first, then the rest of the upgrades. There is a very nice ammy, you can find it under rune charm gold amulet , goes for about 240 exa (crit, crit multi, t1 spell damage, t1 cast speed, t2 life and t2 mana)
poe.trade/search/ranikiyukarini
You can prolly haggle for lower price
i wouldnt do it just yet... i would rather get gg chaos dmg crit rings with life, one culling strike void battery, a +1 gem carcass/covenant , some gg but not mirror worthy ammy.. 21/20 dp.
Sounds good and affordable. I'd personally go with covenant due to semi 7 link possibility
looking for a build that feels as sexy as signal shot with mirrored gear and legacy vinktars did. use to shaper dying in a few seconds, but trying to avoid a bow build if possible this time. just not sure. I suppose my end game budget id be willing to invest would be 400ex maybe 500, if the build is cool enough, but it has to be a build that can do all bosses, map / mods, etc, and look badass doing it. some crazy ass shit going on on screen but with some op ish dmg and really hard to kill. im a sucker for ridiculously op builds on standard, just gives me a collectors feeling i guess. Hopefully i can find a build. maybe something that uses a mirrored weapon would probably be the top choice id assume?
Well, you can check Mathil's Ice Shot, recently posted.
ruclips.net/video/PK3UwNUcBi8/видео.html - kills shaper reasonably fast, 5 link I believe, scales highly with investment. Can replace the gear with stronger variation since you aim to spend 400-500 EX. Can use any bow skill as well. If you aim to replicate it piece for piece (just better), I'd highly advice on Chin Sol corrupted with 1 additional arrow OR Culling Strike.
Other than that, I don't think bows have been changed pretty much either way, they are still strong as they used to be, you'll just go life variation instead of CI.
why vaal packt? where leech enable?
whats he swapping out for ice bit?
How does he leach so much life, instantly? I am a level 40 right now and it is hard with life, since dark pact is using life...
It gets better the more damage you deal. I struggled too when I was your level and a bit up. And some point suddenldy everything came together and it worked fine. Im lvl60 at the moment and I feel like I can DP single enemies and leech back the life I lost. Might be wrong. Will definitely get better once damage goes up more and once I can use Atziri flask. Stick with it, it gets better.
cryionic thanks a lot man. Do you know what is that totem he is using and what does it have linked on it?
Yes. It is Spell Totem linked to "Wither". Wither increases chaos damage taken. That can help against bosses that dont zip around like crazy.
Maybe also linked it to faster casting since Wither builds up stacks. The more stacks the better, but it takes a bit to get to full stacks.
void battery work with this build ]?
What is the Pantheon he is using?
i running whit 2 void batterys and 6l covenant but not like to much because canno't run w.blades/shield charge
that setup isnt really meant for mapping with. that's supposed to be your "i want this boss to die in a few secs" setup
i feel like i got salty shoutout on that shield lol
I'd prefer more /better item drops than another game where you have to buy gear to really be good.
What is with that totem he is using?
u need the Retch belt for epic dmg ;) i mean..like 5 more millions of dmg? ;) on berzerkers leech
Why is anyone surprised by a self cast Occultist DP. I reached 60 something with no issues and just stopped, but saw the promise with it much later. I'm sure plenty of people did SC Occ DP long before Mathil did.
any tips on how to level as a character like this?
supersmashbrojoe it's incredibly difficult. I had an extremely hard time leveling it, which is the reason I bailed on it. I recommend while leveling to use skeles.
thanks for the reply!
Don't know if I should go Occulist or Beserker though.
use spell totem with summon Skeletons and enjoy sitting at the back and watch them suffer while selfcasting DP
I used self-cast DP at around level 30 on a 6 link tabula.. levelling was really fast.. i went for Vaal pact straight, used life leech gem until i could go warlord's mark blasphemy.
It possible to do with assassin?
what about life regen ?
So how would I level a build like this?
will this skill be viable in patch 3.1?
Personally, I am really not interested in self-cast DP without skellies. The playstyle is almost the same as BV, EK and all that stuff. It doesn't look all that interesting.
I'll do a shadow coc dp while using ur tree and tests
But how do you level it until the point it can use cyclone/dp?
Dimitris Fragkos its witch, so standard witch lvling - frostbolt/freezing pulse in +1 cold sceptre 1-12, firestorm in +1 fire sceptre 12-28
i've had major mana issues playing cyclone and dp on tabula tho
mathil uses the covenant which is level 48 and takes care of that but until u hit 48 it's so fucking annoying
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Isn't dark pact chaos damage why are the bosses losing energy shield
Maybe Herald of Ice? Not sure otherwise
Boxvoko any sort of added spell damage, though that could only be HoI/HoT (and he doesnt run HoT) or Dagger mods.
if I recall correctly, jewelery cant get added spell damage, so yeah.
Covenant price gonna double
1 alchemy or chaos or fuse on Harbringer
How it leeches? 0.4%?
Wow pleb not even using Blight jewels for 50% more dmg
how do you run 2 curses ? i cant understand :(
valentin agamalov you can't apply 2 curses at the same time on a single monster. However when using 2 curses on multiple monsters, each curse will be applied once randomly. Say you have 2 monsters the result could be both monsters cursed with the same green curse or both monsters cursed with the same red curse or 1 monster cursed with green and 1 monster cursed with red.
Ascendancy gives 1 additional curse
Your video is looking good and I wonder if your build. pob link open plz...
pls new build!
I like the automation of this build, im currently lvl 80 and the build im using is dismantal time's beserker marauder darkpacked build, guess it comes down to do you want to self cast or not...personally really enjoyed the way yours killed mobs, if i had my time back would probally tried your build. Mathil if your interested here is dismantal's build ruclips.net/video/yC0uhmWU6r8/видео.html&t=1160
With your build mathil what patheons and bandits do you pick?
Still 360p D:
in 2017 you are supposed to know that it takes time for youtube to propose higher res.
wanderfinder clears +15 beachhead faster
my non-crit berserker hits 300k dps with a 5l and comfortable mapping gems. Will hit about 800k with a 6l and conc effect/spell echo swapped in. Uses blight jewels instead of a wither totem and has 6500 life at level 88 with a bisco's.
All that on a 5 link! lol Must be ridiculous with a 6 link ;-)
freaking hell, had the same idea again. a least he's not using void batteries
He did show its better with void battery still
cool
No shit Dark Pact is OP. It is a new skill, it is chaos damage, it uses life to add MORE damage in a patch that life is king. There is just no down side to the skill when you can leech instantly back all the life you use.
Every time new skills come out there is always the one best skill, until it get nerfed to shit after patch and nobody use it anymore.
I'm waiting for it, so I can laugh at the people going for it.
+Derek XIII wtf makes no sense. Those who use these every league laugh about you for ez grinding while u dont. Its stupid to not use them if u play for grinding currency
which is exactly why i made one for the fuck of it when i got my prophecized pledge......went mom berzerker vp got to 90s then stopped playing the char all together......bc once 3.1 hits its prob going to be shit and never played again "aka the GGG play poe again" meta logic of pure shit enticing make a build bc of fotm then ggg nurfs it bc new "skills" they wanna push are a new in 3.1 as dp or etc is shit.......wow who knew other than players that have been around since beta that have seen in with every skill induction that entails "this skill works" or instant garbage dont use...now GGG goal is to eliminate this "dont use it its trash" concept by attempting to make everything "viable" by nurfing the cheeze and face roll out of the game and making content easier to progress through other than boss hp "buff"..........lmao almost no ingenuity in GGG atm when it comes to the "direction" of the game other than appeasement of playerbase and etc nonsense
whats up fam squad jujitsu
If you have to say "deathless" that many times in a build guide, it is not "deathless" lol
I tried a build like that and i failed so hard. It was fun but i guess my items just sucked, not the best league starting build
bandits ¿
Jesus fucking Christ, even with a Dark Pact build the dude has shitty HP... /DOUBLEFACEPALM
0:38 what a bs in chat
Can we not call it a DP build please
Feels sefl cast man.
Oh no, not once again!!
wtf?! I thought controlled destruction sets crit chance down to 5%. Where is the point in using crit strikes?
t h r e e s i x t y
am i fucking missing something?! I don't understand how the hell you have 66KDPS UNBUFFED and im 77 with almost identical gear and im 43KDPS Fully buffed....................................... gems, crit multy, spell damage, diamond rings... this makes no fucking sense.....
you are missing the DP 40% plus lab enchant on the helmet
but he said that he deals 1.5 Milion DPS not 66K DPS, or did I hear it wrong ?!
moayad bokhary look at his tool bar when he hovers over it
would you please mention at which second he hovered over it ?! the video is pretty damn long :D
moayad bokhary @9:50 watch from here
rip CoC DP :/
i have better gear, better critical, better damage, and all better aspects than you, and i still die in maps tier 12+ rares with "one shot" kill
i have berserker darkpact lvl 90 6k life vaal pact, all gems lvl 20 quality 23.
i think you record only the best moment on playing game, but die a lot with one shot kill
nerf inc..
Hi Math
you a boss in POE bro.
I beg you explain to me how to use your Path of Building Pastebin code, when I put it on, it shows me a error.
I think you're a guy who understands the game most of any player in this game, without doubt, 100% true
respect
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HC Viable :D
3:41
you had me at its only a 5l on a 7l(covenant) chest boy am i a fan of conjecture based diction........and the further perpetuation of the comment section of i have 5l why isnt my dps the same...........as if that hasnt happened ever in one of these build vids smh bet he gets off to those "my dps isnt the same why" comments
The game is so stupid atm. I feel like PT just quitting this game for good.
gawn get nerfed to shit
But tbh, an life based occultist, meh.
Pleb build.
Honestly vp should Not be able To Instant leech, as it is now it completely renders ice and shock nova useless
The downside of it costing life is laughable right now
this is how poe has always worked, new stuff makes old stuff useless. look at what blade flurry did to reave, or what vortex did to ice nova, or what kinetic blast did to power siphon. dark pact hasnt even been out one league and youre already trying to nerf it, slow down a little.
BuckminsterGaming i dont want the damage nerfed or anything, just make it unique somehow other than the damage type
LightningTrunks ice and shock nova are useless since a long time.
it is unique with the skeleton interaction ppl just chose not to use it for now
peço perdao pelo vacilo For real. The last time I remember them being good was around open beta or maybe launch. We're talking almost 4 years I think, which is pretty goddamn bad.
Dark Pact nerf incoming!
Blade Flurry Moonbender nerf inc ;)
I think so too. And sort of hope so.
no it won't be nerfed, the only reason why that bf build deals so much damage is due to that mirrored weapon in harb league.
Dark Pact Vaal Pact Berserker ruined PoE for me. I hit 94 in HC and got bored after clearing all the content without dying :(
sure you did
Dark Pact seems a little silly... BUT; here's a piece of advise I use myself: If you think something ruins the game for you, don't use it :P
But if you use something else it feels bad because you could just do better
If you did so on a selfcast zerker vp, well done because its suicidal in lower levels to use it as you can barely leech back what you are drained for on a boss or a single target rare mob, and while a boss is hitting you its just GG health. Thats my experience
nice1 MorningMelancholy :D
eh.. softcore build..
meta builds suckssss
game is so fucking boring on softcore
d3 wut
Lol enjoy your logout macro.
Timotheus24 great bait man lol, played diablo 3 for 3,000+ hours, and I can tell you diablo 3 is so brain dead,
Timotheus24
Sooo much fun using the only build everyone uses that is viable in higher GR's over and over again while losing my sanity to grind up to Paragon level 2000. I also love item sets that limit changing up gear and making them synergize with gear other than my set pieces. God I love feeling like my character is another brick in the wall.
Games so much fun on HC with logout macros and random dying from GGG bug's and damage spikes.