I got my first pc and I diy everything to connect to icue. Just know where the ground, data and power is on different connectors and just make sure it's 5 volts. I really like I cue because you can pick every single diode you want and make it light up separately. I mix and match lots of argb from different brands.
I knew I'd seen that plug before. Back from when the CD-ROM player would send the CD audio on a separate output. If you had a SoundBlaster card, you would plug that into it. Thank you for sharing this information.
You're awesome. I knew I've seen that connector before. Dug through an old box of pc parts and found exactly what I need for this new build. Maybe I don't hate RGB after all lol
Hi I have a really weird question. I actually use PC fan to cool down my aquarium (because they are way more silent and more efficient that other fans). I actually have a corsair LL120 on my tank and it works wonder but I could not find any adapter for the RGB. Do you know if there's a way to build an adapter from the corsair RGB to a standard one? Thank you.
Do you have a controller for it? It will require a 5v addressable RGB controller for WS2812B RGB LEDs. Piratedogtech.com makes adapter cables. You would most likely need a Molex SL 4pin to 3pin JST. He lurks on my discord as devbiker: discord.gg/nvqaAfq
I like and sub because this is a very helpful video, but I have further question. I have a Corsair rgb fan but no corsair rgb node. Is there a cheaper way I can connect a the rgb connecter to a sata without emptying my wallet?
My maximus extreme 8 mobo does not have any RGB headers and I am planning to but a Lian li 011 Dynamic XL case. The case has ARGB LED on the front that goes into a LED controller. Where do I connect the 3-pin LED controller then since I don;t have any A/RGB headers on the mobo? Please help. Any suggestions are welcome.
So heres the question i have.. I have recently purchased a Master Cooler Addressable RGB LED Controller. It does have a 4 pin RGB however I am unsure... Is cosair compatible? can i take the 4 pins adapter and plug it into both the controller and the 4 pin slots on the RGB fans or would this cause an issue?
I wouldn't do anything, without taking a closer look at the device. You can jump on my discord, show some images of what you want to do. A few different people can chime in and help.
Umm no. Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA all use the same RGB header plug. This may be a non proprietary interface but its proprietary from the standpoint that RGB devices don't use that plug with the exception of Corsair. The pinouts are same though which makes the whole proprietary argument moot as long as people are willing to do a little work on the device.
I have a corsair commander pro, the only corsair rgb thing I have in my case is a waterblock for my 2080 ti , so that plugs directly into the commander pro but I have 6 rgb non corsair fans that have the standard 5v rgb plug on them.. Can I rewire all those fans into one rgb plug and power/control them that way off the commander pro? Is it okay to daisy chain that many off a single plug? Could you do that directly off the motherboard as well if you wanted? Thanks!
Yeah, my buddy at piratedogtech.com makes and sells adapters. Granted 12v analog and 5v addressable won't mix without a DAC. I wouldn't put more than 60 5v addressable LEDs to each channel. You can also pick up 5v addressable splitters from modmymods. Granted you could also look for a powered 5v hub to get over that 60 LED number.
I have been dealing with this very scenario on my new build. There is currently no standard for RGB. That’s why we’re all in this mess. So what exactly do you mean when you say “standard 5v RGB”? If you are talking about the 3 pin (it’s actually 4 pins, but one is left empty), AND the fans LED connection is also 3 pin, then yes, you can connect these together because the signal is still the same (VDG - Voltage, Data, Ground). To do this, you will need to convert the 3 pin “standard” RGB connector to a Corsair 3 pin connector. Adapters can be purchased online - the link is in the description. Regarding daisy chaining, it can be done but it’s not as simple as connecting the fans wiring. Also, are you wanting to daisy chain the RGB or the power connection? For RGB, it’s simply a matter of connecting the wires to each other. The only issue with this is that the commander/iCUE can only control but so many LEDs, so if your fans have dense LED strips, it may not work as intended, or only some of the LEDs may light up. Also, if you daisy chain too many LEDs together, the signal will eventually be too weak and degraded to light up more LEDs. This is an electrical limit, not a software one. For daisy changing power, you have to check the current draw for each fan and check that against the current provided by the motherboard or the commander pro. If I’m not mistaken, motherboard headers usually provide 1A of current. As long as the fans current draw for all daisy chained fans is less than 1A you should be good. I wanted to do what you’re trying to do because I have 6 fans, 2 wires each for 12 wires just for fans. It’s a lot and get messy trying to cable manage. I looked into possibly daisy chaining the writing so I don’t have 12 wires to manage and after horses so research, I realized while it can be done, it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth. Here’s my setup: x 6 - Corsair QL120. For power, 2 are connected to ASUS motherboards CPU and CPU OPT headers so I can monitor them in BIOS and other software, the other 4 are connected to the Commander Pro. For the RGB, all of them are connected to the Corsair RGB Hub which is connected to the Commander Pro’s USB header. I have the Lian Li Galahad Galahad 240 AIO, a 90° 24-pin ATX adapter and Lian Li Strimer, all 3 connected to MoBo RGB header via a splitter.
Yes, there is, as long as you have an Aura-style 3 pin ARGB header. You can use the Aura to Corsair Adapter (www.ebay.com/itm/372548214612) and then add to that the Lighting Channel => 2X Fan Adapter (www.ebay.com/itm/372610467788). Alternatively, you can connect an RGB Fan LED Hub so the Aura to Corsair Adapter, which will let you put 6 fans on the motherboard header.
PirateDog Tech if you don’t mind, what is the lightning channel => 2x fan adapter and is there any way to do this without a aura-style 3 pin ARGB header?
Richard Peng so I was just looking for it right now and it’s this www.ebay.com/itm/372610467788 (If link doesn’t work It’s on his Ebay seller page listed as “Corsair Lightning Channel to 2x RGB fans”)
I realize that the 3 pin dupont that the corsair uses has this latch (as you mentioned in the video). However, in the internet I can find 3 pin dupont without a latch. Can you use that head to plug into corsair?
It will fit, but you can damage the device you are plugging it into, if you reverse the polarity. The key and latch prevents this and prevents the connection from being pulled apart.
Got that same Corsair rgb led hub and connected the end cord to the sata for my power supply. Then plugged both my Corsair fans in and it did not light up nor am I able to control it from iCUE. Am I missing something if so wat? I also have a aorus motherboard. New to this rgb stuff/build
If I have a non-Corsair light strip that is connected to Asus 5v argb, should i get 3-pin or 4-pin Corsair adapter??? And what's the difference of 3-pin and 4-pin Corsair rgb connector?
The 3pin has voltage, ground, and data in. The 4pin adds data out so it can pass the out going data to the next fan. The 4th pin is how you can address each fan seperately. Fans that use the 3pin will be clones of each other.
Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/wTMghWcSn5E/видео.html If you have an Asus MB and a non-Corsair RGB strip, I don't know why you want a Corsair adapter.
@@SolarityTechnology the light strip connector is female asus motherboard type currently. I would like to plug it into corsair controller to sync with iCue (I use iCue as controller). I have both lightning node core (4pin) and commander pro (3pin), hence I was asking.
Wow, nice info - I didn't even realize that CD-ROM Drives' motherboards used the Molex termination which Corsair now uses for RGB ("MX2.54"). What was on the other end of that CD-ROM cable (shown in white @ 0:42)? I guess it would be the end which actually plugged into the drive back in the day... it looks like one of JST's "XHP-4" connectors. In the last few years I've personally experienced XHP termination on, ironically enough, motherboards. My old 5th gen Intel NUC (NUC5i7RYH) had an 8-pin "XHP-8" header which was just a usual dual-usb-port mobo header in a different form factor, and it also had a 5-pin "XHP-5" header for additional SATA power (used that to power a small fan fully inside the box). A recent purchase of mine, an ASUS motherboard (model "Prime X570-Pro") actually uses the 4-pin "XHP-4" header for the PCH fan. So MX cables went from being on the Motherboard to being on the devices.. and XHP headers went from being on devices to being on motherboards?!? All I can wonder now is: When new types of cable termination are brought to the industry, do the ones that are great ideas but not patented or reserved by a subset of companies for a specific designation (or purpose) fall prey to this mix-and-match style of implementation or what, because this is interesting to say the least.
Yes the other end is JST. That cable was used for audio on older IDE CD ROM drives. I remember searching Radio Shack for that cable so I could listen to Snoop Dog on the computer. No internet shopping at that time.
i me self are having a problem with this connector. the only pre wired one you can find are like you said for an old cd drive but they only have 3 wires out of 4. ya you can buy the connectors and make your own cables but not everyone is good at that. i spent like $30 buying some dupant connectors and i gave up after an hour and just got pre wired ones. corsair should at lest sell some extra cables for people with big projects out side the norm. the only reason they don't is you your forced to buy another product. corsair makes good stuff but sometimes they fall short. like for the life of me i cant find a guide on how to use there rgb software the only guide i for was from paul's hardware the video of his massive $10000 corsair pc. and alot of people wanted non corsair rgb strip suport witch molders found a way to do it but was limited my the software so the made another software the can make long rgb strips as it lings all the ports together. and dont even get me started with how little of a seletion of rgb flash you can do when there are cheap $5 controllers with like 100+ settings.... but anyway thx for the video haha dont think im hating on corsair when i got 23 corsair fans, headphones stand, commander, rgb ram cooler, psu. don't get me wrong other companies are just as guilty and putting put a half ass product like thermaltake, coolermater, deepcool and so on i myself are having hard time with what rgb contoller to use on what.
I am slightly amused by your quest to seek a guide for iCUE. :) The answer is literally under your nose from the poster below you "Alex Krastev". He does lots of awesome profiles and recently did a how to guide on iCUE: ruclips.net/video/Us4tJ6uHrOE/видео.html I feature a couple of his profiles in one of videos. For extra cables they are really big company and there isn't a whole lot of people that would buy the extra cables so it would hard to turn a profit on it. I am going through my own learning experiences with this type of thing with my ArrRGB DAC I designed. The cost of the device is pretty cheap to make, though there is also the continuous software development that goes behind it, which is the hard part. For strips I might do what I hope will be a simple "How to make a custom RGB strip for Corsair devices", this will not be meant to replace the existing strips as they are hands down awesome because of magnets. I did a project like that for my desk as I wanted a denser strip with 60 LEDs in it, I have it mounted to my desk.
Aye so I have a question, Bro I have an Asus x570i Strix MB I just spent $40 on an Corsair RGB fan at my local microcenter and $10 on the RGB hub.. Been in research city for a min trying figure why this shit is not working messing with my connectors and all lol... I don't have the commander pro or the lighting node pro like wtf that's another $60 from retailers I think imma have to spend when I'm not trying have all these extra strips and fans in my ITX case.. I have ARGB 3 pin headers on my MB is there a connector I can connect from the MB header to the hub? or I need the one of the Corsair commanders? Im trying to see what will work for me but there is too many suggestions and scenarios that are confusing.. Thx! == update == Possible route: On MODDIY "Dell Fan Corsair LED MX 2.54mm Pitch Dupont Male Female Connector" This connector would be an alternative for creating my own cable. I have a 3pin ARGB male cable my MB has provided but I'm thinking of splicing that cable and attaching a female connector and attaching that to the RGB hub.. I think the voltage will work just fine. I found the cable on MODDIY: "Corsair LED RGB 3 Pin to 5v RGB 3 Pin Male Connector Adapter Cable" but shipping the cable could take weeks from Hong Kong.. I don't want to spend the money on the controller but It's like a time over money case here. Actual route: Lastly, I went to that guy's PirateDog website but I didn't see the specific cable I might need listed for immediate purchases.. I was on amazon and saw a GIGABYTE cable: "LICHIFIT 5V 3PIN RGB VDG Conversion Line Cable Connector for GIGABYTE Motherboard" that is Perfect! It's a 2.54mm Pitch Dupont Male Female Connector + 3 ARGB female connector! Im pretty sure I can control the software through Asus software and not iCue.. I'll let you know how successful things are sometime this week.
Hey ... you'd need the Aura to Corsair Adapter (piratedog.tech/products/aura-mystic-light-motherboard-a-rgb-to-corsair-rgb-adapter) and then a Fan Hub cable (piratedog.tech/products/corsair-rgb-fan-led-hub-cable).
90% off peeps that say "Corsair RGB connectors are proprietary" actually mean 'electrically wired'. I'm scraping for info on that now as I'm converting my Corsair, Thermaltake, and Phanteks RGB to standard mobo pinouts for a build. Still no luck on the SP120 fan RGB wiring yet though😒.....
The original SP120 uses a different protocol and is not compatible with these products. As I might have mentioned in the video, the Molex SL connectors don't come unplugged like the MB type.
Do NOT plug this into a Dell Optiplex motherboard. They most likely use the Molex SL header for a sound card or something else. It won't be for Corsair RGB.
Can someone please answer this question: I have a new corsair rgb fan 140mm but the rgb cable is the one shown in the video and I don’t have anywhere to plug it into on my MB. What cable do I need to buy? Thx
So my friend needs to get a new male to male rgb cable to connect the rgb hub to the commander adapter. But i can't find any online and me and him are not skilled enough to make cables. Do you know if you or anyone else would be willing yo make one for him to buy?
I been looking for the dam round rgb header pins for a minute I finally said screw it i'll pay the 30 for 100 of them. Then literally an hour later I found 500 for 10 bucks by accident...... smh, struggles.
Extremely helpful video!! You've dispelled the myth of Corsair inventing/patenting a new proprietary RGB cable (they just implemented a Molex connector instead of the usual 4 round pins). Same VDG signal, different physical connectors. Analogous to trying to force a USB 2.0 Type A connector into a Type B. Man, all these different RGB ecosystems is pretty annoying. My next build will be in a Loque Ghost S1, and I'll want strong fan performance for cooling - so I'd like to go with Noctua fans. I can add rgb fan frames to them, and buy adapters to make connectors compatible with Lightning Node Pro. but the problem is that these frames contain 18 LED's each. Corsair software is expecting to see a device with 12 (LL), 4 (ML), etc., and none of Corsairs fans have 18 LED's. So there will be a mismatch in # LED's in a given fan, to what the iCUE software is expecting. - No Corsair fan frames are available to add to Noctua fans. Corsair wants people to buy their own fans, can't knock their business model. - The fan frames I have (18 LED's) are compatible with ASRock's RGB implementation, but despite same connector type, ASRock compatible LED's are not compatible with ASUS RGB software (although ASRock is a subsidiary of ASUS...). Any ideas? Lol, what if I opened up one of the fan frames and inactivated enough LED's to get 16 (LL), 4 (ML), or 12 (HD).
You sound like me over a year ago and the USB analogy is a good one. Also a lot of the RGB ecosystems are overrated. LEDs are very simple, it is the control and implementation of them via software, which is difficult. That is why I recommend Corsair's iCUE. I agree that Noctua does make a great fan and I was too looking at Noctua and fan frames over a year ago. Granted at the time they didn't have any addressable fan frames. The fan frames do cover up a little bit of the outer frame, which will impact the performance of the Noctua fans, granted I don't know by how much. It might also create clearance issues. I see you are going to SFF and building a big system in a small case is very challenging. While on paper I have seen some impressive specs from Noctua, Corsair fans also do very well and are very well built. The white LL-120 fans actually have a much higher static pressure and a larger RPM range than the black LL-120 fans. If you look at Corsair fan's RGB connectors, they use 4pins. The 4th pin is for data out. Corsair uses a "dumb" RGB hub that supplies powers and chains up to 6 fans in series. This is how I can get unique effects with the fans. Using a splitter of some sort, which is not that popular with most other fans will mean you will have mirrored effects on all fans. I would check out the iCUE software, it is very powerful. After messing around with this a lot, I do prefer one ecosystem and disabling lighting in areas that annoy me. AS Rock used to be a subsidiary of Asus, though no longer. On my AS Rock X470 Taichi, it uses the same Aura style RGB header as Asus. It might have been different at one time. Gigabyte even switched to this standard as my Z370 Gaming 7 has a square 3pin connector. In the Z390 Gigabyte switched to the Asus standard. I wouldn't mess with the modding the frames, if you use them and get an adapter from someone like Piratedog Tech on ebay, then I would leave them be. I do have a separate video on connectors as well as a good RGB 101 video. I would check them out, we also have a discord I just started, if you wish to join: discord.gg/nvqaAfq Good luck!
@@SolarityTechnology Thanks man! I think you put things well: the biggest RGB issues appears to be more about brand-to-brand compatibility with the software. Factors inherent to the software would have to include how nice the lighting animations are, software stability, and ease of UI. I've heard terrible things about Thermaltake's UI. As for fanciness, ASRock's implementation is described as too basic and way too behind ASUS and Corsair. It's easy to find videos showing the beautiful animations that the Corsair and ASUS are able to accomplish, but the only ASRock videos showing their RGB that I've found are limited to seeing parts of their MB light up, and none showing what ASRock Polychrome really looks like on aRGB fans. Yeah, I'm debating the merits of switching to the LL series for this build. Their specs are good. They are also not beige/brown (lol although one could easily use that black dye spraycan). Gotcha about four physical pins for aRGB with Corsair. You gave me the answer there: the data out signal is the missing ingredient to enable separate control of each fan's RGB, as opposed to mere "mirroring", which is a more elegant way of putting it than I originally did. I think, thanks to a build I did using the Corsair 900D, I've catapulted back into SFF territory. God that thing is huge, and probably heavy enough for some warmup rep on bench press. So yeah, SFF back again with more hard line custom loop experience, like the Fractal Design Nano S that I loved making 1.5 years ago.. I'm trying out the Ghost this time for the ultimate in challenging build. Or as an exercise in overambition: it includes the terms "i9-9900k" and "2080 ti" also LOL . So far I can tell you it's requiring a lot of custom parts, like a very thin, custom-milled reservoir (I wasn't too keen on Jay doing it without a res in his Ghost videos), and having to sleeve the power cables myself using optimal lengths. I'll probably have to resize the lengths on the pwm/rgb cables for the fans. I'll definitely have to consider delidding for better temp control. There's been a couple-few hardline custom build with the Ghost, none with nicely done RGB yet (probably because of lack of space). I don't have a CNC machine, but will have to mod the side panels to show off the UV tubes and RGB. Unless Loque starts offering tempered glass panels before I complete the project (doubt it). Call me insane, call me mad, I'll let you know how it turns out lol. With all this said, yeah, you bet I'm thinking about clearance as well, lol. Jay's temps on his soft tubing custom loop build wasn't as low as I'd like - I think he had serious clearance issues with his bottom hat's rad/fan block - no breathing room above it. Temps might have been improved if he used Hardware Lab's radiators. I think he only lapped his CPU, and didn't delid also. BTW the fan frames I have here are the ones made by Akasa (the only ones on list compatible with ASRock Polychrome) - although I'm pretty close to considering using the Corsair fans instead. They won't obscure the airflow from the fan at all which is nice. But will add addition 0.5cm to overall thckness of radiator/fan block. Not a big deal in the 900D, but definitely need to think about with the Ghost S1. Thanks for chatting! I'll check out your other videos, and hop into discord at some point to chat more and show you updates on the build.
Non corsair led fans and strips dont have a return signal. So the following things plugged in will not work. Starting at position 1 going to 6. You need to enable them in icue software and then plug corsair stuff first and leave third party for last. Good luck.
This RGB stuff has gotten way out of hand everyone has their own software, and they use different internal connectors. As was pointed out yes you can make adapters to make these things play nice with one another, but most normal people are not going to make their own cables, they will buy a controller they think is universal and buy some fans or other devices, got to hook them up find out they don't play nice together and then one of two things will happen they will google things and end up finding a video like this after reading/ searching (like I did but I am not a normie so to speak.) or they'll say screw rgb in general I don't need the lights. I bought an EK waterblock none RGB, a set of EK pumps and reservoirs. I have a Thermaltake case. I have 1 corsair RGB fan in the front its the only one that will be visible. I have 6 EK rgb fans on my EK radiators that also will barely be visible and 4 Noctua fans acting as exhaust you wont see at all, a corsair commander, and an corsair rgb hub. So I have some work ahead of me to get all of my RGB stuff hooked up. Not going to lie I am strongly considering pulling the corsair fan out of my system, ditching the commanderand running everything off of my motherboard, I was going to run a mono color setup anyway, and maybe its the tech boomer in me coming out, but I've been building computers now for over 20 years, stuff with custom water loops, hell I tig welded a case together mixing my profession with my hobby for the first time. I just DGAF about rgb if my options are to commit to 1 ecosystem or have to make a bunch of adapter cables to make multiple devices play nice on 1 ecosystem to have a unified color scheme/ effects.
@@SolarityTechnology No puedo encontrar para comprar este modelo de conector (Molex) similar al Corsair Fan. Sabes dónde puedo encontrarlo? Cómo se llama realmente el Molex SL?
I came looking for copper and I found gold
this is so useful for the diy-er that wants to hook into the corsair ecosystem. Thanks!
Holy crap!! I was looking everywhere for these damn connectors! Thanks a lot bro.
You are my super hero. I looking many time for this connectors and doesnt find them. Thank you that you find it. :)
I got my first pc and I diy everything to connect to icue. Just know where the ground, data and power is on different connectors and just make sure it's 5 volts. I really like I cue because you can pick every single diode you want and make it light up separately. I mix and match lots of argb from different brands.
I knew I'd seen that plug before. Back from when the CD-ROM player would send the CD audio on a separate output. If you had a SoundBlaster card, you would plug that into it.
Thank you for sharing this information.
You're awesome. I knew I've seen that connector before. Dug through an old box of pc parts and found exactly what I need for this new build. Maybe I don't hate RGB after all lol
That’s awesome man. I love when things work out like this. Reusing an old connector for a new build with custom wiring/connector is always a win.
I thought it was a connector I'd seen before, thanks for sharing this!
I came from your comment from the Corsair capellix review by bit-tech. Great stuff. I've subscribed. :)
Thank you so much for clearing this up. a great help.
I agree, I was certain I've seen that before, many times in fact -)))))) nice video!
Hi I have a really weird question. I actually use PC fan to cool down my aquarium (because they are way more silent and more efficient that other fans).
I actually have a corsair LL120 on my tank and it works wonder but I could not find any adapter for the RGB. Do you know if there's a way to build an adapter from the corsair RGB to a standard one? Thank you.
Do you have a controller for it? It will require a 5v addressable RGB controller for WS2812B RGB LEDs. Piratedogtech.com makes adapter cables. You would most likely need a Molex SL 4pin to 3pin JST. He lurks on my discord as devbiker: discord.gg/nvqaAfq
Such an awesome use for fans.... please let me know if you ever sorted this out...
Golden question; is there an off the shelf adapter for sale? Got nzxt hue ledstrips but got icue fans...
Did you figure out how to make the NZXT stuff work with iCue?
Cheers man, got all the info I needed!
Lol stop reminding me how old I em 🤣 thanks for the clip
The only thing that makes you feel older than technology is kids :)
I like and sub because this is a very helpful video, but I have further question. I have a Corsair rgb fan but no corsair rgb node. Is there a cheaper way I can connect a the rgb connecter to a sata without emptying my wallet?
Sata would only provide the power, try piratedogtech.com, if you want an adapter to control the RGB with a MB RGB header.
My maximus extreme 8 mobo does not have any RGB headers and I am planning to but a Lian li 011 Dynamic XL case. The case has ARGB LED on the front that goes into a LED controller. Where do I connect the 3-pin LED controller then since I don;t have any A/RGB headers on the mobo? Please help. Any suggestions are welcome.
I would get a Lighting Node Pro as well as an Asus Aura to Corsair Adapter from Piratedogtech.com
Does a motherboard always have those plug where you put in the Kabel of the RGB hub?
no. mine doesn't have it because its not from the stone age
So heres the question i have..
I have recently purchased a Master Cooler Addressable RGB LED Controller. It does have a 4 pin RGB however I am unsure... Is cosair compatible? can i take the 4 pins adapter and plug it into both the controller and the 4 pin slots on the RGB fans or would this cause an issue?
I wouldn't do anything, without taking a closer look at the device. You can jump on my discord, show some images of what you want to do. A few different people can chime in and help.
@@SolarityTechnology what is your discord?
i mean i got two from the case i bought they are pretty dope but most certainly not worth the price 120$ for 3 fans like redonculus
Umm no. Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA all use the same RGB header plug. This may be a non proprietary interface but its proprietary from the standpoint that RGB devices don't use that plug with the exception of Corsair. The pinouts are same though which makes the whole proprietary argument moot as long as people are willing to do a little work on the device.
I have a corsair commander pro, the only corsair rgb thing I have in my case is a waterblock for my 2080 ti , so that plugs directly into the commander pro but I have 6 rgb non corsair fans that have the standard 5v rgb plug on them.. Can I rewire all those fans into one rgb plug and power/control them that way off the commander pro? Is it okay to daisy chain that many off a single plug? Could you do that directly off the motherboard as well if you wanted? Thanks!
Yeah, my buddy at piratedogtech.com makes and sells adapters. Granted 12v analog and 5v addressable won't mix without a DAC. I wouldn't put more than 60 5v addressable LEDs to each channel. You can also pick up 5v addressable splitters from modmymods. Granted you could also look for a powered 5v hub to get over that 60 LED number.
I have been dealing with this very scenario on my new build. There is currently no standard for RGB. That’s why we’re all in this mess. So what exactly do you mean when you say “standard 5v RGB”? If you are talking about the 3 pin (it’s actually 4 pins, but one is left empty), AND the fans LED connection is also 3 pin, then yes, you can connect these together because the signal is still the same (VDG - Voltage, Data, Ground).
To do this, you will need to convert the 3 pin “standard” RGB connector to a Corsair 3 pin connector. Adapters can be purchased online - the link is in the description.
Regarding daisy chaining, it can be done but it’s not as simple as connecting the fans wiring. Also, are you wanting to daisy chain the RGB or the power connection?
For RGB, it’s simply a matter of connecting the wires to each other. The only issue with this is that the commander/iCUE can only control but so many LEDs, so if your fans have dense LED strips, it may not work as intended, or only some of the LEDs may light up. Also, if you daisy chain too many LEDs together, the signal will eventually be too weak and degraded to light up more LEDs. This is an electrical limit, not a software one.
For daisy changing power, you have to check the current draw for each fan and check that against the current provided by the motherboard or the commander pro. If I’m not mistaken, motherboard headers usually provide 1A of current. As long as the fans current draw for all daisy chained fans is less than 1A you should be good.
I wanted to do what you’re trying to do because I have 6 fans, 2 wires each for 12 wires just for fans. It’s a lot and get messy trying to cable manage. I looked into possibly daisy chaining the writing so I don’t have 12 wires to manage and after horses so research, I realized while it can be done, it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth.
Here’s my setup:
x 6 - Corsair QL120. For power, 2 are connected to ASUS motherboards CPU and CPU OPT headers so I can monitor them in BIOS and other software, the other 4 are connected to the Commander Pro. For the RGB, all of them are connected to the Corsair RGB Hub which is connected to the Commander Pro’s USB header.
I have the Lian Li Galahad Galahad 240 AIO, a 90° 24-pin ATX adapter and Lian Li Strimer, all 3 connected to MoBo RGB header via a splitter.
Thanks very informative but is there a way to plug corsair ll120 into the motherboard?
Yes, there is, as long as you have an Aura-style 3 pin ARGB header.
You can use the Aura to Corsair Adapter (www.ebay.com/itm/372548214612) and then add to that the Lighting Channel => 2X Fan Adapter (www.ebay.com/itm/372610467788). Alternatively, you can connect an RGB Fan LED Hub so the Aura to Corsair Adapter, which will let you put 6 fans on the motherboard header.
@@piratedogtech5910 thanks for the reply. I also saw your corsair rgb led fan splitter on ebay can i also use that to connect it to my h100i?
@@アヴィ-m3t You need to keep the number of LEDs on the H100i Platinums to 32 total LEDs or less. So ... in most cases, that's not a good idea.
PirateDog Tech if you don’t mind, what is the lightning channel => 2x fan adapter and is there any way to do this without a aura-style 3 pin ARGB header?
Richard Peng so I was just looking for it right now and it’s this www.ebay.com/itm/372610467788 (If link doesn’t work It’s on his Ebay seller page listed as “Corsair Lightning Channel to 2x RGB fans”)
I realize that the 3 pin dupont that the corsair uses has this latch (as you mentioned in the video). However, in the internet I can find 3 pin dupont without a latch. Can you use that head to plug into corsair?
It will fit, but you can damage the device you are plugging it into, if you reverse the polarity. The key and latch prevents this and prevents the connection from being pulled apart.
@@SolarityTechnology so before plugging in, you need to make sure the correct side right? Okay then thanks for the warning
@@yohanes2034 you are correct. Need to make sure the plug is going in the right way to prevent damage to LEDs. This can be tested with a multimeter.
Got that same Corsair rgb led hub and connected the end cord to the sata for my power supply. Then plugged both my Corsair fans in and it did not light up nor am I able to control it from iCUE. Am I missing something if so wat? I also have a aorus motherboard. New to this rgb stuff/build
Do you have a Lighting Node Pro or Commander Pro?
If I have a non-Corsair light strip that is connected to Asus 5v argb, should i get 3-pin or 4-pin Corsair adapter??? And what's the difference of 3-pin and 4-pin Corsair rgb connector?
The 3pin has voltage, ground, and data in. The 4pin adds data out so it can pass the out going data to the next fan. The 4th pin is how you can address each fan seperately. Fans that use the 3pin will be clones of each other.
@@SolarityTechnology the 4th pin only applies to fans? I can get the 3pin adapter for light strip? If i use 4pin adapter for light strip will it burn?
Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/wTMghWcSn5E/видео.html
If you have an Asus MB and a non-Corsair RGB strip, I don't know why you want a Corsair adapter.
@@SolarityTechnology the light strip connector is female asus motherboard type currently. I would like to plug it into corsair controller to sync with iCue (I use iCue as controller). I have both lightning node core (4pin) and commander pro (3pin), hence I was asking.
@@whitedancer5866 contact piratedog.tech for an adapter.
Wow, nice info - I didn't even realize that CD-ROM Drives' motherboards used the Molex termination which Corsair now uses for RGB ("MX2.54"). What was on the other end of that CD-ROM cable (shown in white @ 0:42)? I guess it would be the end which actually plugged into the drive back in the day... it looks like one of JST's "XHP-4" connectors. In the last few years I've personally experienced XHP termination on, ironically enough, motherboards. My old 5th gen Intel NUC (NUC5i7RYH) had an 8-pin "XHP-8" header which was just a usual dual-usb-port mobo header in a different form factor, and it also had a 5-pin "XHP-5" header for additional SATA power (used that to power a small fan fully inside the box). A recent purchase of mine, an ASUS motherboard (model "Prime X570-Pro") actually uses the 4-pin "XHP-4" header for the PCH fan.
So MX cables went from being on the Motherboard to being on the devices.. and XHP headers went from being on devices to being on motherboards?!?
All I can wonder now is: When new types of cable termination are brought to the industry, do the ones that are great ideas but not patented or reserved by a subset of companies for a specific designation (or purpose) fall prey to this mix-and-match style of implementation or what, because this is interesting to say the least.
Yes the other end is JST. That cable was used for audio on older IDE CD ROM drives. I remember searching Radio Shack for that cable so I could listen to Snoop Dog on the computer. No internet shopping at that time.
i me self are having a problem with this connector. the only pre wired one you can find are like you said for an old cd drive but they only have 3 wires out of 4. ya you can buy the connectors and make your own cables but not everyone is good at that. i spent like $30 buying some dupant connectors and i gave up after an hour and just got pre wired ones. corsair should at lest sell some extra cables for people with big projects out side the norm. the only reason they don't is you your forced to buy another product. corsair makes good stuff but sometimes they fall short. like for the life of me i cant find a guide on how to use there rgb software the only guide i for was from paul's hardware the video of his massive $10000 corsair pc. and alot of people wanted non corsair rgb strip suport witch molders found a way to do it but was limited my the software so the made another software the can make long rgb strips as it lings all the ports together. and dont even get me started with how little of a seletion of rgb flash you can do when there are cheap $5 controllers with like 100+ settings.... but anyway thx for the video haha dont think im hating on corsair when i got 23 corsair fans, headphones stand, commander, rgb ram cooler, psu. don't get me wrong other companies are just as guilty and putting put a half ass product like thermaltake, coolermater, deepcool and so on i myself are having hard time with what rgb contoller to use on what.
I am slightly amused by your quest to seek a guide for iCUE. :) The answer is literally under your nose from the poster below you "Alex Krastev". He does lots of awesome profiles and recently did a how to guide on iCUE: ruclips.net/video/Us4tJ6uHrOE/видео.html
I feature a couple of his profiles in one of videos.
For extra cables they are really big company and there isn't a whole lot of people that would buy the extra cables so it would hard to turn a profit on it. I am going through my own learning experiences with this type of thing with my ArrRGB DAC I designed. The cost of the device is pretty cheap to make, though there is also the continuous software development that goes behind it, which is the hard part.
For strips I might do what I hope will be a simple "How to make a custom RGB strip for Corsair devices", this will not be meant to replace the existing strips as they are hands down awesome because of magnets. I did a project like that for my desk as I wanted a denser strip with 60 LEDs in it, I have it mounted to my desk.
Aye so I have a question, Bro I have an Asus x570i Strix MB I just spent $40 on an Corsair RGB fan at my local microcenter and $10 on the RGB hub.. Been in research city for a min trying figure why this shit is not working messing with my connectors and all lol... I don't have the commander pro or the lighting node pro like wtf that's another $60 from retailers I think imma have to spend when I'm not trying have all these extra strips and fans in my ITX case.. I have ARGB 3 pin headers on my MB is there a connector I can connect from the MB header to the hub? or I need the one of the Corsair commanders? Im trying to see what will work for me but there is too many suggestions and scenarios that are confusing.. Thx!
== update ==
Possible route: On MODDIY "Dell Fan Corsair LED MX 2.54mm Pitch Dupont Male Female Connector" This connector would be an alternative for creating my own cable. I have a 3pin ARGB male cable my MB has provided but I'm thinking of splicing that cable and attaching a female connector and attaching that to the RGB hub.. I think the voltage will work just fine. I found the cable on MODDIY: "Corsair LED RGB 3 Pin to 5v RGB 3 Pin Male Connector Adapter Cable" but shipping the cable could take weeks from Hong Kong.. I don't want to spend the money on the controller but It's like a time over money case here.
Actual route: Lastly, I went to that guy's PirateDog website but I didn't see the specific cable I might need listed for immediate purchases.. I was on amazon and saw a GIGABYTE cable: "LICHIFIT 5V 3PIN RGB VDG Conversion Line Cable Connector for GIGABYTE Motherboard" that is Perfect! It's a 2.54mm Pitch Dupont Male Female Connector + 3 ARGB female connector! Im pretty sure I can control the software through Asus software and not iCue.. I'll let you know how successful things are sometime this week.
Hey ... you'd need the Aura to Corsair Adapter (piratedog.tech/products/aura-mystic-light-motherboard-a-rgb-to-corsair-rgb-adapter) and then a Fan Hub cable (piratedog.tech/products/corsair-rgb-fan-led-hub-cable).
@@piratedogtech5910 Ooohhh! Snaps!!! Thanks bruh! I'll order that stuff right now..! What a guy! The cables made from PDT are definitely worth it.
90% off peeps that say "Corsair RGB connectors are proprietary" actually mean 'electrically wired'. I'm scraping for info on that now as I'm converting my Corsair, Thermaltake, and Phanteks RGB to standard mobo pinouts for a build.
Still no luck on the SP120 fan RGB wiring yet though😒.....
The original SP120 uses a different protocol and is not compatible with these products. As I might have mentioned in the video, the Molex SL connectors don't come unplugged like the MB type.
so will this make my ddr3 dell optiplex motherboard connect to all my case fans (sorry if im being super dumb)
Do NOT plug this into a Dell Optiplex motherboard. They most likely use the Molex SL header for a sound card or something else. It won't be for Corsair RGB.
@@SolarityTechnology is there a ddr3 motherboard that would support Corsair rgb
@@sidkasperuk2568 not that I know of
Can someone please answer this question: I have a new corsair rgb fan 140mm but the rgb cable is the one shown in the video and I don’t have anywhere to plug it into on my MB. What cable do I need to buy? Thx
You need an adapter from piratedogtech.com or a buy a RGB Hub and Commander Pro or Lighting Node Pro
If we have just the hub can we buy a wire for the hub to connect to the mobo or do we have to buy a node or commander to make rgb work?
So my friend needs to get a new male to male rgb cable to connect the rgb hub to the commander adapter. But i can't find any online and me and him are not skilled enough to make cables. Do you know if you or anyone else would be willing yo make one for him to buy?
Sorry I am a bit tired, check out piratedogtech.com
I been looking for the dam round rgb header pins for a minute I finally said screw it i'll pay the 30 for 100 of them. Then literally an hour later I found 500 for 10 bucks by accident...... smh, struggles.
Yeah I know the feeling!
When people says "proprietary" they mean not only physical connector, but electrical too.
Extremely helpful video!! You've dispelled the myth of Corsair inventing/patenting a new proprietary RGB cable (they just implemented a Molex connector instead of the usual 4 round pins). Same VDG signal, different physical connectors. Analogous to trying to force a USB 2.0 Type A connector into a Type B.
Man, all these different RGB ecosystems is pretty annoying. My next build will be in a Loque Ghost S1, and I'll want strong fan performance for cooling - so I'd like to go with Noctua fans. I can add rgb fan frames to them, and buy adapters to make connectors compatible with Lightning Node Pro. but the problem is that these frames contain 18 LED's each. Corsair software is expecting to see a device with 12 (LL), 4 (ML), etc., and none of Corsairs fans have 18 LED's. So there will be a mismatch in # LED's in a given fan, to what the iCUE software is expecting.
- No Corsair fan frames are available to add to Noctua fans. Corsair wants people to buy their own fans, can't knock their business model.
- The fan frames I have (18 LED's) are compatible with ASRock's RGB implementation, but despite same connector type, ASRock compatible LED's are not compatible with ASUS RGB software (although ASRock is a subsidiary of ASUS...).
Any ideas? Lol, what if I opened up one of the fan frames and inactivated enough LED's to get 16 (LL), 4 (ML), or 12 (HD).
You sound like me over a year ago and the USB analogy is a good one. Also a lot of the RGB ecosystems are overrated. LEDs are very simple, it is the control and implementation of them via software, which is difficult. That is why I recommend Corsair's iCUE.
I agree that Noctua does make a great fan and I was too looking at Noctua and fan frames over a year ago. Granted at the time they didn't have any addressable fan frames. The fan frames do cover up a little bit of the outer frame, which will impact the performance of the Noctua fans, granted I don't know by how much. It might also create clearance issues. I see you are going to SFF and building a big system in a small case is very challenging. While on paper I have seen some impressive specs from Noctua, Corsair fans also do very well and are very well built. The white LL-120 fans actually have a much higher static pressure and a larger RPM range than the black LL-120 fans. If you look at Corsair fan's RGB connectors, they use 4pins. The 4th pin is for data out. Corsair uses a "dumb" RGB hub that supplies powers and chains up to 6 fans in series. This is how I can get unique effects with the fans. Using a splitter of some sort, which is not that popular with most other fans will mean you will have mirrored effects on all fans. I would check out the iCUE software, it is very powerful. After messing around with this a lot, I do prefer one ecosystem and disabling lighting in areas that annoy me.
AS Rock used to be a subsidiary of Asus, though no longer. On my AS Rock X470 Taichi, it uses the same Aura style RGB header as Asus. It might have been different at one time. Gigabyte even switched to this standard as my Z370 Gaming 7 has a square 3pin connector. In the Z390 Gigabyte switched to the Asus standard.
I wouldn't mess with the modding the frames, if you use them and get an adapter from someone like Piratedog Tech on ebay, then I would leave them be.
I do have a separate video on connectors as well as a good RGB 101 video. I would check them out, we also have a discord I just started, if you wish to join: discord.gg/nvqaAfq
Good luck!
@@SolarityTechnology Thanks man! I think you put things well: the biggest RGB issues appears to be more about brand-to-brand compatibility with the software. Factors inherent to the software would have to include how nice the lighting animations are, software stability, and ease of UI. I've heard terrible things about Thermaltake's UI. As for fanciness, ASRock's implementation is described as too basic and way too behind ASUS and Corsair. It's easy to find videos showing the beautiful animations that the Corsair and ASUS are able to accomplish, but the only ASRock videos showing their RGB that I've found are limited to seeing parts of their MB light up, and none showing what ASRock Polychrome really looks like on aRGB fans.
Yeah, I'm debating the merits of switching to the LL series for this build. Their specs are good. They are also not beige/brown (lol although one could easily use that black dye spraycan).
Gotcha about four physical pins for aRGB with Corsair. You gave me the answer there: the data out signal is the missing ingredient to enable separate control of each fan's RGB, as opposed to mere "mirroring", which is a more elegant way of putting it than I originally did.
I think, thanks to a build I did using the Corsair 900D, I've catapulted back into SFF territory. God that thing is huge, and probably heavy enough for some warmup rep on bench press. So yeah, SFF back again with more hard line custom loop experience, like the Fractal Design Nano S that I loved making 1.5 years ago.. I'm trying out the Ghost this time for the ultimate in challenging build. Or as an exercise in overambition: it includes the terms "i9-9900k" and "2080 ti" also LOL . So far I can tell you it's requiring a lot of custom parts, like a very thin, custom-milled reservoir (I wasn't too keen on Jay doing it without a res in his Ghost videos), and having to sleeve the power cables myself using optimal lengths. I'll probably have to resize the lengths on the pwm/rgb cables for the fans. I'll definitely have to consider delidding for better temp control. There's been a couple-few hardline custom build with the Ghost, none with nicely done RGB yet (probably because of lack of space). I don't have a CNC machine, but will have to mod the side panels to show off the UV tubes and RGB. Unless Loque starts offering tempered glass panels before I complete the project (doubt it). Call me insane, call me mad, I'll let you know how it turns out lol.
With all this said, yeah, you bet I'm thinking about clearance as well, lol. Jay's temps on his soft tubing custom loop build wasn't as low as I'd like - I think he had serious clearance issues with his bottom hat's rad/fan block - no breathing room above it. Temps might have been improved if he used Hardware Lab's radiators. I think he only lapped his CPU, and didn't delid also.
BTW the fan frames I have here are the ones made by Akasa (the only ones on list compatible with ASRock Polychrome) - although I'm pretty close to considering using the Corsair fans instead. They won't obscure the airflow from the fan at all which is nice. But will add addition 0.5cm to overall thckness of radiator/fan block. Not a big deal in the 900D, but definitely need to think about with the Ghost S1.
Thanks for chatting! I'll check out your other videos, and hop into discord at some point to chat more and show you updates on the build.
I have problem. Just 1 outlet working good 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 not working What should I do ? :(
Did you set it to more than one fan in the SW?
Non corsair led fans and strips dont have a return signal. So the following things plugged in will not work. Starting at position 1 going to 6. You need to enable them in icue software and then plug corsair stuff first and leave third party for last. Good luck.
Not using the standard that literally everyone else is using and instead picking one from the 90's is the same as being proprietary
This RGB stuff has gotten way out of hand everyone has their own software, and they use different internal connectors. As was pointed out yes you can make adapters to make these things play nice with one another, but most normal people are not going to make their own cables, they will buy a controller they think is universal and buy some fans or other devices, got to hook them up find out they don't play nice together and then one of two things will happen they will google things and end up finding a video like this after reading/ searching (like I did but I am not a normie so to speak.) or they'll say screw rgb in general I don't need the lights.
I bought an EK waterblock none RGB, a set of EK pumps and reservoirs. I have a Thermaltake case. I have 1 corsair RGB fan in the front its the only one that will be visible. I have 6 EK rgb fans on my EK radiators that also will barely be visible and 4 Noctua fans acting as exhaust you wont see at all, a corsair commander, and an corsair rgb hub. So I have some work ahead of me to get all of my RGB stuff hooked up.
Not going to lie I am strongly considering pulling the corsair fan out of my system, ditching the commanderand running everything off of my motherboard, I was going to run a mono color setup anyway, and maybe its the tech boomer in me coming out, but I've been building computers now for over 20 years, stuff with custom water loops, hell I tig welded a case together mixing my profession with my hobby for the first time. I just DGAF about rgb if my options are to commit to 1 ecosystem or have to make a bunch of adapter cables to make multiple devices play nice on 1 ecosystem to have a unified color scheme/ effects.
Onde encontro destes conectores corsair para comprar ?
Hablo Espanol un poco. Necessitan, "Molex SL" conectores? Can't copy what you wrote into Google Translate.
Hablo Espanol un poco. Necessitan, "Molex SL" conectores? Can't copy what you wrote into Google Translate.
@@SolarityTechnology No puedo encontrar para comprar este modelo de conector (Molex) similar al Corsair Fan.
Sabes dónde puedo encontrarlo? Cómo se llama realmente el Molex SL?
So I bought a lighting node core and it didn't come with the cable that connects to the commander pro for the rgbcan someone help
Lighting node core is a bit newer. It is a hybrid of RGB Hub and a Lighting Node Pro. No Commander Pro needed for the core. It is for fans only.
Device your holding is for fans not RGB. Read manual.
What can you do with this info?
I found I was repeating myself on various communities, so I made a video to give visual proof that Corsair connectors are not proprietary. :)
Make cable extensions. Make motherboard aRGB connector. Free up a USB port and get rid of iCUE.