That 540i with that wheel and tyre combo not only looks sick, but also looks like it could really lay it down on a twisty B road. Tuned 700hp B58 the 540i gets my vote.
M lights have always struggled in the handling department which is why the M cars exist, entirely different support. It'd see a -20s on a good track vs the M5, but for the cost you can't discredit it
Classic B58 heat soaking, it is a great engine though. M5 would be my choice. Chassis dynamics, brakes and engine are the difference. That's worth the 8k to me, but each to their own! Can't believe M5s are now 38k, bargain!!
Also, don't forget that the 540i is highly modified in order to make that type of power, and modified cars are ALWAYS a nightmare to keep, especially in reliability. And the B58 is not made for that kind of power. It even has a lower capacity, and it will get much, much more consumed than the S63, making the same level of power. If you have the money, the M5 is 100% more worth it.
@@TheAlbaniaGamingwrong, with an intake manifold it will not heat soak. It’s just ethanol and a bigger turbo, that’s not highly modified at all in the bmw world. Literally 6k in mods. The b58 is a true 700-1000 hp daily
I'm taking the m5 bro because of its potential truthfully your comparing a stage 1 m5 with a stage 3 540i M5 value dropped massively now. Hass is a top lad though who does some good work been in a few of his tuned cars now
@@techbutter2877 I can tell you for certain my mates stage 2 m5 he had was a rocket ship for example bro I am one of the only people on the planet who's pushed a b9 car to its limits. Appreciate the b58 engine has been around for a while but the s58 is the one now that car downpipe alone pushes over 750hp on pump that to me it's nuts no b58 is touching that
I feel like this B58 had a strong showing here but was ultimately just becoming more and more heat soaked. The M5 appeared to have better repeatability of performance which would make sense as bmw crams as many heat exchangers as they can in the M cars which is often why they weigh quite a bit more. B58 showing how versatile it is once again.
Great sportsmanship on the day. The M5 deffo needs a set of downpipes to get the most from a tuning session. Although still did a great job.. against its lighter sibling👌
One massive advantage of the 540i over the M? Wagon! Yes you can get a 540i wagon, breathe on it for a proper under the radar sleeper. Loving the stance of both these cars, maybe more so the 540i with its pothole proof wheel/tyre combo.
Close. Very close. I suppose if you factor in running costs,the ease of fixing / servicing a B58 over a 4.4 V8 and then the notoriously good reliability of the B58 then the 540i becomes a very interesting prospect indeed.
@@SH7SH7SH7 I don’t know, the price of big V8 super saloons has been going one way for a while now,especially now the used car market is levelling out. Add in running M car costs, big insurance hikes it all adds up and even people with deeper pockets than average are feeling it. Undeniably the far more frugal B58 when tuned is 8/10ths of an M5 in terms of power, that’s enough for most people. The M car is the more special car though obviously.
@@Buck3366 that's bull. No way that non built b58 would be as reliable when it has more than double the hp and a meth. I bet it would actually cost more in the long run to maintain than the M5 when things start going and you're still left with a slower 540i that is close to unsellable
@@huiputka1 Why does it need to be built exactly? They are more than strong enough. It’s one of BMW’s most over engineered engines of modern times in fact. Does a B58 suddenly implode when it surpasses 699 bhp? I’ve seen them get way more and not go bang. Strange. Incidentally if you think a B58 is in any way similar to maintaining an 8 cylinder Twin Turbo 4.4 V8 I think you need to give your head a big old wobble. After you pay triple for a major M5 service that might in part show you just the fundamental and simple basic running costs of each in stock form or we would all be driving round in them instead of M140/240/340 etc. Notoriously brutal to run even when running well and that’s before you start to piss about modifying them. They plummet like a brick because they are killers on the wallet. Try a V12 M760Li like my friend did. 90k loss in under 3 years. Running costs of most houses! Big BMWs especially M cars are the bargains of the century until something goes wrong. Then need half the value of the car again to fix it! ( I’ll let you do the research to price up a replacement M5 engine over a B58, a price most don’t have tucked away for a rainy day).ANY modified car is susceptible to breaking but to say a modded 540 is going to be more costly than a modded M5 in terms of like for like running or hypothetical engine failure is just daft! Like I say, go price 2 engines up.
2nd Launch from the M5 was mint. Even though on paper it looks to have slightly less legs, that secret M power pulls its weight over the imposter. But you get the 540i and you could probably run it for 2 years with the difference
This vid his beyond sick big up Jamie and all of the crew… music popped off btw. The crazy thing is for me my dream is that F90 M5 but an option I was looking at is that 540i and the fact that it can keep with that M5 and saving 8-10 bags is nuts. That being said a few sent M5 would eat it alive. Still sick vid 🔥🔥🔥
That 540i must of been suffering from heat soak after the first run as it was much closer. Either that or Trap speed of the m5 suggests it’s got more power than quoted
There are more to performance variants than peek horsepower figures. You have looks, suspension, features, etc. But I definitively acknowledge that is a 🔥 540.
The B58 easily can perform with 700bhp run after run, but it needs an aftermarket intake manifold (by Wagner for example). Then the IATs stay down low until the last run.
Yeaa the M5 definitely showed why it’s more superior here, although the 540 was close you have to spend more just to get close to what a tuned M5 can do imagine if the M5 had 10k in it or even 5k
Nice comparison. I think it would be a nice comparison to bring in the m550i. As a previous 17:51 owner of a B58 540i and a current owner of the N63tu2 m550i, the way they feel when moving fast (over 100mph) is so different. I haven't had the opportunity to drive an m5, but I would pick the m550i over the 540i, concerning performance. If I'm after reliability, there's nothing like the B58. Both cars are phenomenal. It's the once choice that's a win win, regardless
Theres no point saying if the m5 was stock. Because this race was same power and m5 has a heavier engine and it just proved its better. Plus the 540i being stage 3 will guarantee have major problems down the line where as the m5 is only stage 1 so itl stay more reliable
Great Sportsmanship, all respect. M5 S63 Exhaust is just beast, 540i Exhaust from that venerable B58 hits the spot too lol. Between the two I would choose M5 however I enjoy that B58 as well.
M cars are just better built than non m cars its the underneath not the power. It's about refinement. But ya know with people rating teslas refinement has gone out the window
Talking about the people who are capable of purchasing both “as is” from factory, I’d say they’d still choose the M5 over the 540i because although the B58 is an excellent platform, the M5 wins in every other aspect. The price tag you’re paying is for the heritage, and amount of R&D and marketing being spent to distinguish itself from a regular 5-series. As an overall package and on paper, it still trumps the 540i in every other way, which is why it’s costlier. Although performance wise, the gap between a regular 5 series and M5s have decreased in recent years, people would still pay the premium knowing that they drive an M5, rather than just a 540i.
Love me the b58, it's almost bulletproof but as an f90 owner; that s63 is limitless on power gains more when compared to no M engines + luxury, looks and swag. You got the wallet 99 percent you'll be pimping f90 s63.
The b58 with xhp stage 3 shift a little bit late i would say, should shift before the peak torque. the gear ratio from 2 to 5 of zf8 on a 540i is not that good for a drag race. But still impressive.
I don't think that this video is about what car is going to win this video is about that you can build a car there is cheaper but still gets almost the same performance
Im not surprised with the results, i called it on all before watching the video. What people need to understand is that the M5 is BUILT around doing what it does, everything plays a part with the internals etc. the 540i isn’t. Whether it’s tuned up or not, it’s not naturally built around performance like the M5
In the end a m5 is just a factory built 540i just with upgraded suspension , better brakes more expensive interior and some cosmetic changes with a different drivetrain and power plant you could build the same car with the right parts 👀🤷🏽♂️
What no one is taking into account is the fact that the m5 can be maintained even at the dealer or any bmw specialist while the 540i need the specific tuners and is prone to have more break downs and issues compared to the bmw m5 which has been tested by the factory to perform the way it should. The m5 is an out of the box sports car build by the factory which is less likely to break down if maintained well and looked after whereas the 540i is now pushing its limits with the tunes and is less reliable. BMW overall is less reliable, I own a 330i so I know but mine is only running a stage one and I’m happy because if I wanted to drive my car daily I can’t afford for it to blow a pipe or fail on me and with mods no matter how great of a tuner you are you run the risk. A person who wants to have one daily driver will go for the m5 while someone who has vehicles at disposal will tune a 540i for the kicks of it but if they do that for their daily driver that means that have enough money for public transport or they work from home and take the car out on weekends.
I think the M5 can run more horsepower off of just an ecu tune. From what I have seen and ecu tune bumps it up to 700+ and downpipes take it to 750+. The one in the video seems undertuned. Let's not talk about messing with turbos and internals. Love the b58 as well.
I’ve literally been saying for years b58 is the modern 2j but better. Everyone gets mad about it but it’s kinda true tho. They’ve only been around for a few short years and already do some very impressive numbers. Wait til they’ve been around as long as the jz has been around. Bet it’s a lot better than a 2j
I'm suprised that BMW didn't create a B58 version of the S63.. Instead they opted to use the actual B58 in the 540.. Even the M550i used the S63 power plant, with lower compression and non twin scroll turbos. Most likely I guess its around cost.
Nothing to compare here the m5 with a simpel tune will out perform the b58 any day of the week and hold value the clapped out stage 3 b58 will sell for nothing once your done with it
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That 540i with that wheel and tyre combo not only looks sick, but also looks like it could really lay it down on a twisty B road. Tuned 700hp B58 the 540i gets my vote.
M lights have always struggled in the handling department which is why the M cars exist, entirely different support. It'd see a -20s on a good track vs the M5, but for the cost you can't discredit it
Your a mad man. An M car is better all around simple.
That 540i did really well. Definitely worth the name M5 Cheat code!
Classic B58 heat soaking, it is a great engine though. M5 would be my choice. Chassis dynamics, brakes and engine are the difference. That's worth the 8k to me, but each to their own! Can't believe M5s are now 38k, bargain!!
Also, don't forget that the 540i is highly modified in order to make that type of power, and modified cars are ALWAYS a nightmare to keep, especially in reliability. And the B58 is not made for that kind of power. It even has a lower capacity, and it will get much, much more consumed than the S63, making the same level of power. If you have the money, the M5 is 100% more worth it.
@@TheAlbaniaGamingwrong, with an intake manifold it will not heat soak. It’s just ethanol and a bigger turbo, that’s not highly modified at all in the bmw world. Literally 6k in mods. The b58 is a true 700-1000 hp daily
@@TheAlbaniaGamingalso 540s are not developed like the 340 platform. The 540 is too big for the b58
@@TheAlbaniaGamingalso if you m swap the drivetrain it’s going to handle like an m, many people add lsd to x drive to make it handle like a g80
@@TheAlbaniaGamingGenerally would agree on that but b58 is a unicorn when it comes to BMW reliability. Even Toyota puts their name on it.
Despite the legendary status and epicness of the b58,most people are still taking the M5 simply because it's an "m"
I'm taking the m5 bro because of its potential truthfully your comparing a stage 1 m5 with a stage 3 540i
M5 value dropped massively now. Hass is a top lad though who does some good work been in a few of his tuned cars now
@@ozzyalis the b58 platform has way more performance potential than the s63. no one really modifies their s63 other than an exhaust and maybe a tune.
@@techbutter2877 I can tell you for certain my mates stage 2 m5 he had was a rocket ship for example bro I am one of the only people on the planet who's pushed a b9 car to its limits. Appreciate the b58 engine has been around for a while but the s58 is the one now that car downpipe alone pushes over 750hp on pump that to me it's nuts no b58 is touching that
@@techbutter2877also potential is not the one this is already stage 3 and its just touching stage 1 number a stage 3 m5 is night night on stage 3
Yea but M5 has a V8, and who dont love a big ol V8 motor
I feel like this B58 had a strong showing here but was ultimately just becoming more and more heat soaked. The M5 appeared to have better repeatability of performance which would make sense as bmw crams as many heat exchangers as they can in the M cars which is often why they weigh quite a bit more. B58 showing how versatile it is once again.
Big intercooler should reduce that a lot.
Great sportsmanship on the day. The M5 deffo needs a set of downpipes to get the most from a tuning session. Although still did a great job.. against its lighter sibling👌
One massive advantage of the 540i over the M?
Wagon!
Yes you can get a 540i wagon, breathe on it for a proper under the radar sleeper.
Loving the stance of both these cars, maybe more so the 540i with its pothole proof wheel/tyre combo.
M5 wagon coming soon
540i wagon sounds like the absolute perfect car
Close. Very close. I suppose if you factor in running costs,the ease of fixing / servicing a B58 over a 4.4 V8 and then the notoriously good reliability of the B58 then the 540i becomes a very interesting prospect indeed.
M5 will hold its value way better than spending 10k on mods though
@@SH7SH7SH7 I don’t know, the price of big V8 super saloons has been going one way for a while now,especially now the used car market is levelling out. Add in running M car costs, big insurance hikes it all adds up and even people with deeper pockets than average are feeling it. Undeniably the far more frugal B58 when tuned is 8/10ths of an M5 in terms of power, that’s enough for most people. The M car is the more special car though obviously.
@@Buck3366 that's bull. No way that non built b58 would be as reliable when it has more than double the hp and a meth. I bet it would actually cost more in the long run to maintain than the M5 when things start going and you're still left with a slower 540i that is close to unsellable
@@huiputka1 Why does it need to be built exactly? They are more than strong enough. It’s one of BMW’s most over engineered engines of modern times in fact. Does a B58 suddenly implode when it surpasses 699 bhp? I’ve seen them get way more and not go bang. Strange. Incidentally if you think a B58 is in any way similar to maintaining an 8 cylinder Twin Turbo 4.4 V8 I think you need to give your head a big old wobble. After you pay triple for a major M5 service that might in part show you just the fundamental and simple basic running costs of each in stock form or we would all be driving round in them instead of M140/240/340 etc. Notoriously brutal to run even when running well and that’s before you start to piss about modifying them. They plummet like a brick because they are killers on the wallet. Try a V12 M760Li like my friend did. 90k loss in under 3 years. Running costs of most houses! Big BMWs especially M cars are the bargains of the century until something goes wrong. Then need half the value of the car again to fix it! ( I’ll let you do the research to price up a replacement M5 engine over a B58, a price most don’t have tucked away for a rainy day).ANY modified car is susceptible to breaking but to say a modded 540 is going to be more costly than a modded M5 in terms of like for like running or hypothetical engine failure is just daft! Like I say, go price 2 engines up.
@@huiputka1y’all just talk…review big hp b58s.
2nd Launch from the M5 was mint. Even though on paper it looks to have slightly less legs, that secret M power pulls its weight over the imposter. But you get the 540i and you could probably run it for 2 years with the difference
I can’t believe I’m saying this but the 540i sounds much much more mental than the M5 😮
M5 got stock cats
That first roll was epic!
The F90 5 Series and M5 will forever be a legend! That 540i is so sweet.
Much love and respect for both builds and owners.
540i performance is amazing , not to mention how much cheaper is to buy/maintain/tune
This vid his beyond sick big up Jamie and all of the crew… music popped off btw. The crazy thing is for me my dream is that F90 M5 but an option I was looking at is that 540i and the fact that it can keep with that M5 and saving 8-10 bags is nuts. That being said a few sent M5 would eat it alive. Still sick vid 🔥🔥🔥
That 540i must of been suffering from heat soak after the first run as it was much closer. Either that or Trap speed of the m5 suggests it’s got more power than quoted
Looked like it, bigger gaps each run.
Stock downpipes are biggest restriction 👌
Sure the 540 runs Meth too
540i stage 3+, M5 just a standard map with stock cats etc and he had no chance whatsoever! Proper M car anytime of the day! 🇱🇻🤟👊
There are more to performance variants than peek horsepower figures. You have looks, suspension, features, etc. But I definitively acknowledge that is a 🔥 540.
The B58 easily can perform with 700bhp run after run, but it needs an aftermarket intake manifold (by Wagner for example). Then the IATs stay down low until the last run.
Absolutely dig these 540i's... Even if they faster and cheaper Unfortunately still ain't a M5
Yeaa the M5 definitely showed why it’s more superior here, although the 540 was close you have to spend more just to get close to what a tuned M5 can do imagine if the M5 had 10k in it or even 5k
That second launch on the drags from the M5 was SAVAGE !!!
Would take the M5 every time.
I love how you 1st did the 540i then had it on the match-up. Cool flow there.
Crazy close! If your on a budget, 540i no brainer!
The 1/4 AWD leaderboard is all Quattro and Porsche PTM. That says a lot
Nice comparison. I think it would be a nice comparison to bring in the m550i. As a previous 17:51 owner of a B58 540i and a current owner of the N63tu2 m550i, the way they feel when moving fast (over 100mph) is so different. I haven't had the opportunity to drive an m5, but I would pick the m550i over the 540i, concerning performance.
If I'm after reliability, there's nothing like the B58. Both cars are phenomenal. It's the once choice that's a win win, regardless
The M5 already produces close to 685 bhp at stock, there is a video at carwow where they dyno all three german competitors
Theres no point saying if the m5 was stock. Because this race was same power and m5 has a heavier engine and it just proved its better. Plus the 540i being stage 3 will guarantee have major problems down the line where as the m5 is only stage 1 so itl stay more reliable
the 540i is the underdog, but the M5 is still king!
Great Sportsmanship, all respect. M5 S63 Exhaust is just beast, 540i Exhaust from that venerable B58 hits the spot too lol. Between the two I would choose M5 however I enjoy that B58 as well.
That 540i did amazingly well to stay so close with that M5 !
M cars are just better built than non m cars its the underneath not the power. It's about refinement. But ya know with people rating teslas refinement has gone out the window
100%
Man in the M5 SWEATING in that first roll man you can feel the relief in that sigh 😂
M5 all day everyday, just cant beat the overall experience the M gives you.
i would love to see the 1000hp e63s wagon against the 1000hp rs6.I would appreciate it if you could make it happen👍
Would love to give that a go but unfortunately my RS6 is only stage 1 off the shelf map doing 650hp and 830nm torque.
Maybe one day 😂
At the end of the day a 540i is not a M car for a reason. The Letter M is a heavy one… ❤️❤️ especially with the M5
OG battles, its what Sundays are made for
If ‘Moe’ is reading this, that’s the best sounding B58 I’ve heard. *standing ovation*
The guy with the 540i needs to do something and get his revenge !!
Especially with being lighter, either that 540 doesn't have 700hp or that m5 has more than 700hp lol
this is what sundays are about! 2 german beasts smashing gears and smoking tyres. this one’s gunna be close 👊🏻👏🏻👏🏻
this is the design we like mann, BMW TAKE NOTES
540i put up a convincing fight
540i has slightly longer gearing? Sick race J😊
Looks like a different gear ratio for each car.
cheapest 540i is 50k and cheapest M5 is 100k where i live. Not worth the extra 50k
Really interesting comparison, thanks Jamie I enjoyed that video!
Talking about the people who are capable of purchasing both “as is” from factory, I’d say they’d still choose the M5 over the 540i because although the B58 is an excellent platform, the M5 wins in every other aspect.
The price tag you’re paying is for the heritage, and amount of R&D and marketing being spent to distinguish itself from a regular 5-series. As an overall package and on paper, it still trumps the 540i in every other way, which is why it’s costlier.
Although performance wise, the gap between a regular 5 series and M5s have decreased in recent years, people would still pay the premium knowing that they drive an M5, rather than just a 540i.
Love me the b58, it's almost bulletproof but as an f90 owner; that s63 is limitless on power gains more when compared to no M engines + luxury, looks and swag. You got the wallet 99 percent you'll be pimping f90 s63.
The b58 with xhp stage 3 shift a little bit late i would say, should shift before the peak torque. the gear ratio from 2 to 5 of zf8 on a 540i is not that good for a drag race. But still impressive.
Be good to see a tuned m550i Vs m5
Need Hass, Evolve and Tom Ridley, epic showdown of tuners!
*Wrigley 😉
B58 LOVE!
The extra torque of that M5 is crazy
NVM sauce 🔥
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Jamie when are you getting me up against some cars with my fireblade??
stage 3 vs stage 1 says it all, more maintenance on the 540
I don't think that this video is about what car is going to win this video is about that you can build a car there is cheaper but still gets almost the same performance
love to see the 540i aganst a stock m5
Think the facelift m550i with a stage 2 would be more interesting
M5 just for that v8 sweet sound
Honestly for me it would come down to which is more reliable and cost efficient....I see more bmw v8s in the shop then I do 3.0L
Im not surprised with the results, i called it on all before watching the video. What people need to understand is that the M5 is BUILT around doing what it does, everything plays a part with the internals etc. the 540i isn’t. Whether it’s tuned up or not, it’s not naturally built around performance like the M5
Have you ever thought of making a compilation video of the top 10 fast lap times
540i over m5 he needs to get me on here to vs an A35😂 🔥
Disappointing times for a b58 with those mods. Our b58 was doing 6.14 100-200 with the smaller DAW flowmax
I own a b58 but aint noting like the Daddy! M5 all day everyday 🎉
M5 has it on top end, these things are notorious for that , they're hard to beat hp to hp bcz of that
Got a tuned G30 540i and a E39 M5, M5 just has a different feel.
How good would a drone Birds Eye view be for the finishing line
All I can say is the 4.4 v8 gave me a hell of a lot more headaches and bills than the 3.0 I6. #noregrets
m5 for me just love the car and how it sounds
In the end a m5 is just a factory built 540i just with upgraded suspension , better brakes more expensive interior and some cosmetic changes with a different drivetrain and power plant you could build the same car with the right parts 👀🤷🏽♂️
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What no one is taking into account is the fact that the m5 can be maintained even at the dealer or any bmw specialist while the 540i need the specific tuners and is prone to have more break downs and issues compared to the bmw m5 which has been tested by the factory to perform the way it should. The m5 is an out of the box sports car build by the factory which is less likely to break down if maintained well and looked after whereas the 540i is now pushing its limits with the tunes and is less reliable. BMW overall is less reliable, I own a 330i so I know but mine is only running a stage one and I’m happy because if I wanted to drive my car daily I can’t afford for it to blow a pipe or fail on me and with mods no matter how great of a tuner you are you run the risk. A person who wants to have one daily driver will go for the m5 while someone who has vehicles at disposal will tune a 540i for the kicks of it but if they do that for their daily driver that means that have enough money for public transport or they work from home and take the car out on weekends.
Why doesnt the 540i have launch control? Ive seen other videos on yourube of people launching them
I think the M5 can run more horsepower off of just an ecu tune. From what I have seen and ecu tune bumps it up to 700+ and downpipes take it to 750+. The one in the video seems undertuned. Let's not talk about messing with turbos and internals. Love the b58 as well.
V8 will always be a v8 😈🔥🔥 good races.
I’ve literally been saying for years b58 is the modern 2j but better. Everyone gets mad about it but it’s kinda true tho. They’ve only been around for a few short years and already do some very impressive numbers. Wait til they’ve been around as long as the jz has been around. Bet it’s a lot better than a 2j
M5 for the win. Thank you for video
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Do the 440 vs M4
Can't ignore the savings 🤑🤑🤑
what are the rims for the 540?
Bmw without pops and bangs sounds so raw😂😂😂
Want see a modded 340 vs that m5
Can we get m5 vs 550i
I'm suprised that BMW didn't create a B58 version of the S63.. Instead they opted to use the actual B58 in the 540.. Even the M550i used the S63 power plant, with lower compression and non twin scroll turbos. Most likely I guess its around cost.
I'm quite sure M550I uses N63. A lot different from S63
Can we get a tuned m550i?
B58 sounds great 🎉
37k for a m5 f90 in uk??? in Norway the cheapest cost almost 80k here
540i over m5 🔥
The fact that the owner of the m5 hasn't got the best english and is named Sandis- he must be a Latvian dude😭🤣
My question is which is more of a reliable engine?????
Values of 540i's are about to shoot up 😂😂😂
Bring back speaking the mod list please
M cars rule the Track, everything else is for the streets😂
Nothing to compare here the m5 with a simpel tune will out perform the b58 any day of the week and hold value the clapped out stage 3 b58 will sell for nothing once your done with it
540i heat soaking in the second race?
sick race