What happened to Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne Rorkes Drift

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @Georgetimothy-d1b
    @Georgetimothy-d1b Год назад +75

    I saw Zulu when a little boy in Bath, wonderful film...I now am 68...thank you for the memories

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +2

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching my video too.

    • @MichaelBarry-wj3ee
      @MichaelBarry-wj3ee 20 дней назад

      It always reminds me of the Brixton riots 1981

    • @allenbracchi5689
      @allenbracchi5689 11 дней назад

      I first saw the film during my summer holidays in Rhyl in the mid 70’s. I have owned my own copy for at least 20 years in various formats. A masterpiece.

  • @deanboardman2342
    @deanboardman2342 10 месяцев назад +86

    He totally epitomises being British. What a brave nice man. We could do with him now and many more like him. I salute you sir.

  • @fideliselan
    @fideliselan 2 года назад +209

    29 years service, enlisted for 19 years and an officer for 10. Colour Sergeant Bourne is the epitome of the professional Soldier and NCO. Thank you for the video; his like should never be forgotten.

  • @EdisonCollector
    @EdisonCollector Год назад +68

    "Stay where you are, Hook!"
    Bourne was always my favorite character in the film, and Nigel Green one of my favorite British actors! Thank you for this.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +2

      My absolute pleasure. Thanks for watching.

    • @trevorelliston1
      @trevorelliston1 4 месяца назад +2

      Hook was badly done to by the film, who by portraying him as a dissolute ill-disciplined soldier made him pretty much the antithesis of the model soldier he really was. M

    • @Belaugh
      @Belaugh Месяц назад +1

      ​@@trevorelliston1The surname made the character change. Michael Caine originally auditioned to play Hook. But Fate got on the way.

  • @pdcdumas
    @pdcdumas 2 года назад +318

    I served in the U.S. Marines as a helicopter gunship pilot through two tours in Vietnam. I have read all the accounts I could find of the Battle of Rorke's Drift, starting with the account in "Our Empire Story" when I was a boy of twelve. And, I have watched the movie "Zulu" multiple times. I have always thought that Rorke's Drift was the best example of what properly led soldiers can do, even in the worst of battlefield conditions. From the accounts I have read, and from the movie, I think Color Sgt. Bourne epitomized everything that a non-commissioned officer should be. A truly magnificent soldier!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +14

      Thank you for taking the time to comment.

    • @kevinarnott1172
      @kevinarnott1172 Год назад +8

      Nice to listen to your comments

    • @wharris4874
      @wharris4874 Год назад +19

      I was in Fllujah in 06,from the look of the place I believe the Marines fought a battle as intense in these day as the British fought at Rourkes Drift,you have to appreciate men of such courage and fortitude,I thank them all.

    • @theccpisaparasite8813
      @theccpisaparasite8813 Год назад +6

      Hougoumont and LA Haye Sainte ... 18 June 1815

    • @Odd_Interaction
      @Odd_Interaction 10 месяцев назад +10

      Never mention the movie Zulu to my wife, it might have to do with my Kit hanging in “my room” and the mutton chops that I grew after I retired from the U.S. Army.

  • @ericburrage4531
    @ericburrage4531 2 года назад +1650

    I am a retired U.S. Army officer. I always held that Colour Sergeant Bourne was the ideal example of what an NCO should be. I'm glad to finally know the "rest of the story".

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +68

      Eric, I am so glad that you enjoyed. Thanks.

    • @JohnR1298
      @JohnR1298 2 года назад +38

      Hi Eric, speaking of Exemplary Soldiering do you know the story of the HMS (I've seen it as RMS too) Birkenhead? Talk about 'Standing Fast'! It's Grim, but it set the unwritten maritime law of Women and Children First. Kipling called it 'The Birkenhead Drill'.
      Apparently the Kaiser of Germany instructed this standard of soldiering was to be expected of his own soldiers! Apologies if you do know the story 😶

    • @itsnotrightyouknow
      @itsnotrightyouknow 2 года назад +38

      Yes he commanded respect without having to yell at his men or use abusive language. 😁

    • @APersonOnYouTubeX
      @APersonOnYouTubeX 2 года назад +18

      @@itsnotrightyouknow get respected thru acts outside of duty
      Therefore respect will be present when ur doing duty

    • @GravesRWFiA
      @GravesRWFiA 2 года назад +25

      exactly. even in the movie he isn't heroic so much as professional. the one who keeps the men focused on their jobs

  • @robertthomas3777
    @robertthomas3777 Год назад +51

    ‘Do that tunic button up boy’.
    Classic line.
    It’s all about absolute discipline.

  • @davidphilips5543
    @davidphilips5543 Год назад +51

    Nigel Green was so memorable in ' Zulu ', his strength and leadership mixed perfectly with his compassion and benevolence - just unforgettable 👏

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +1

      Thanks for taking the time to comment

    • @davidphilips5543
      @davidphilips5543 Год назад

      ​@@TheHistoryChapthanks for taking the time to reply!

    • @IVAN-bs5bq
      @IVAN-bs5bq 8 месяцев назад +2

      He always reminds me of a policeman that we had in Nottingham in the 1960s and 70s Tug Willson , i can see him now standing on the council House steps , he was a huge copper , ex-Grenadiar Guard and 6' 8" tall .

    • @pittarak1
      @pittarak1 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@IVAN-bs5bqI was in Nottingham late 70s and I think he was still on the beat then? He would turf out any misbehaving customers out of Yates Wine Lodge.

  • @andrewheywood6252
    @andrewheywood6252 2 года назад +1173

    "Mr Witt Sir. Be quiet now will you, there's a good Gentleman; You'll upset the Lads"

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +78

      Oh, I had forgotten that one - great shout!

    • @christopherseivard8925
      @christopherseivard8925 2 года назад +24

      Thanks, my exact thought, immediately. I was about to to watch the film(Again) just to be certain of the quote!

    • @chickenlampbrent
      @chickenlampbrent 2 года назад +18

      That was going to be my first choice! So I went with another favorite.

    • @surfdocer103
      @surfdocer103 2 года назад +19

      The gentleman has a bottle

    • @Justme-xw4gs
      @Justme-xw4gs 2 года назад +35

      "Say sir, officer on parade."

  • @Mark-bb2vr
    @Mark-bb2vr 2 года назад +320

    Im a retired Aussie Infantry Sergeant Major ( Warrant Officer), who also commissioned to Captain at the tail end of my career and I remember fondly when I was joining the Army as a young bloke the movie Zulu was one of the recruiting movies. It was a favorite. And you are bloody right because Colour Sergeant Bourne was a fine example indeed. I love the history of this era and the great traditions of the British Infantry, a lot of which us Aussies inherited as well. Thanks for the great video's mate !

    • @liverpoolscottish6430
      @liverpoolscottish6430 2 года назад +39

      The Aussies are first class soldiers and greatly respected in British military circles. Our long association with Australia is a source of immense pride- we know who our real friends are, along with the Kiwis and Canadians.

    • @Mark-bb2vr
      @Mark-bb2vr 2 года назад +28

      @@liverpoolscottish6430 Thanks for a very warm reply , rest assured the respect and admiration is returned as well. I have very fond memory's of serving and training with squaddies from the most excellent Irish Guards, Scots Guards and the blokes from 4/5 CDO. Once again the present political and world situation means that we all need to stick together again, the British, US, Canadian, NZ and Australian friendship and alliances must be reinforced and made stronger because you and I know that we are under attack once again by the forces that want to see our way of life and cultures destroyed. If we do we will beat the bastards ! Yours Aye !

    • @stephensmith4480
      @stephensmith4480 2 года назад +18

      @@liverpoolscottish6430 I totally Agree with you 💯% our Commonwealth is something to be proud of, from a Born and Bred Scouser 👍.

    • @philiprufus4427
      @philiprufus4427 2 года назад +9

      The Aussies certainly did inherit them, and from what I read as a kid til my sixties, have definately proved it over the years. Loved meeting Aussies on their travels in Scotland when I was a youngster, they always cracked me up,great sense of fun !

    • @davidhumberdross3387
      @davidhumberdross3387 2 года назад +7

      Saw this at Kapooka
      1977 Basic training. Great movie.

  • @youngbess1
    @youngbess1 2 года назад +257

    I remember as a young child, my father took my two brothers to see Zulu, he felt it was not a film for a young girl. Two weeks later my grandfather took me along with him to see it. I can’t count the number of times I have watched over the years since.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +5

      I’m a bit like that

    • @angeluscorpius
      @angeluscorpius Год назад +8

      I'm trying to interest my daughter (8 yrs old) to watch Zulu. I've got her intrigued by the premise of the story (150 British redcoats against 4000 Zulu warriors), but I worry that she might find it slow. So knowing you found it interesting gives me... encouragement!

    • @Inquisitor_Vex
      @Inquisitor_Vex Год назад +2

      My dad had it on video cassette so it became one of my most watched film, probably of all time since I rarely rewatch a film these days.

    • @somanyvoices8817
      @somanyvoices8817 Год назад +5

      Died in1945 just after the war incase we called him back into service a true hero for his country lest we forget

    • @larrycronin523
      @larrycronin523 9 месяцев назад +3

      Congratulations. What happy memories. Your granddad loved you.

  • @markbannatyne6839
    @markbannatyne6839 Год назад +22

    I have always loved the film "Zulu" and of course Colour Sergeant Bourne's portrayal, but the description of his real life given here was far more fascinating! This was a great video.

  • @davidhalen1198
    @davidhalen1198 2 года назад +60

    During rollcall, “Hitch…Hitch I saw you, you’re alive.” And Hitch’s response, “Oh, thank you very much.” Classic

    • @kennethgarland4712
      @kennethgarland4712 2 года назад +10

      This is the scene where Bourne is calling the roll after the battle, for my money one of the finest scenes, which for some reason never appears in RUclips clips of the film. As Bourne calls out the names of soldiers and starts to find ones that don't answer, and so are probably dead, you can see and hear him biting back the emotion and just managing to keep his voice calm. At each name, he remembers a human being, someone he probably shouted at, put on a charge, despaired of ever making him a soldier, and now he's dead, but had risen to the challenge and done his duty. Fantastic performance by Nigel Green.

    • @bethannfeng5062
      @bethannfeng5062 2 года назад +1

      Lol! You beat me to it.

    • @bethannfeng5062
      @bethannfeng5062 2 года назад +4

      My other favorite is when he recites " the Soldier's Psalm" from the bible. God bless him and the rest of the boys.

    • @mwhyte1979
      @mwhyte1979 2 года назад +3

      My favorite line out of the whole movie.

  • @catholicreconquista7456
    @catholicreconquista7456 2 года назад +450

    What a life Frank Bourne had. From most humble beginnings, through the expansion of the Empire, to a high rank in the Army and to even live to see VE Day. Somehow, his life seems to encapsulate Britain at its greatest. The Nation sorely needs men of his calibre now. May Lieutenant-Colonel Bourne have achieved eternal rest. And thank you for your research and video.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +12

      Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching

    • @rvail136
      @rvail136 Год назад +27

      Hard times makes hard men. Hard men make soft times...we are in those soft times. Our political elites in the Western world despise our countries and our peoples. We need men like LtCol Bourne today...sadly we have very few...

    • @catholicreconquista7456
      @catholicreconquista7456 Год назад +9

      @@rvail136True.
      "Zulu" was on Channel 5 a few days ago. I hope others who were inspired by this video were able to catch it.

    • @Westwoodii
      @Westwoodii Год назад +9

      @@rvail136 He was of his time, and a splendid professional soldier who did his duty and more. I've always loved watching the film Zulu, and saw it on first release as a 10 year old in 1964. But times do change, and although we always have to be ready to combat threats from less enlightened sources, as current events show, we also need as a species to progress away from wars and conquest. We live on a Pale Blue Dot (per Carl Sagan) in a vast universe. It will take a long time, but that must be our goal, and it is an admirable one.

    • @JamesAlexander14
      @JamesAlexander14 Год назад +12

      Not everyone thinks as you. Yes we must always plan for peace, but we must never be complacent and should always be prepared for war. Somebody else may start it. We must be prepared to finish it!🙏

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince8824 2 года назад +471

    It's a crying shame that recording was binned. To hear the voice of a Victorian soldier, and one who fought in such an incredible action at that, would be incredible.

    • @markiobook8639
      @markiobook8639 2 года назад +144

      of course the BBC binned it: how dare we take pride in our own history or culture.

    • @colinthomas5462
      @colinthomas5462 2 года назад +34

      @@markiobook8639 agree with your comment.

    • @theoldgreymare703
      @theoldgreymare703 2 года назад +32

      I think its incredible that from fighting at Rorke's Drift 19C to living one after the end of WW2 1945 amazing longevity.

    • @markiobook8639
      @markiobook8639 2 года назад +29

      @@theoldgreymare703 indeed it's almost as if God wanted to keep him alive long enough to see good triumph over evil.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +23

      it would be amazing to hear.

  • @JMD1965
    @JMD1965 10 месяцев назад +57

    The UNBELIEVABLE short-sightedness of the BBC never fails to absolutely astound me!!!.....

    • @johndrake3823
      @johndrake3823 9 месяцев назад +8

      Those fools at the bbc didn’t think it important enough to preserve, that would have been a wonderful listen

    • @kilcar
      @kilcar 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yes Indeed, I agree, especially in their hiring practices, top to bottom!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for your comment

    • @timothyodeyale6565
      @timothyodeyale6565 7 месяцев назад +1

      You've got to remember, until "Zulu" came out there was very little interest in the battle, the only reason you're here to complain is because of a movie and well reseatched youtube video- not trying to be insulting by the way.

    • @TheNelster72
      @TheNelster72 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@timothyodeyale6565The BBC has never lost an opportunity to disdain the British Empire. There is an article even now to the controversial battle to the same enemy on the same day on the BBC web site.

  • @C.E.Thomas1952
    @C.E.Thomas1952 2 года назад +117

    Being a Welsh teenager at the time of course I saw the film in the cinema (and promptly fell in love with Stanley Baker). Now I am a senior citizen of 70 and the movie still thrills me.Thank you so much for adding all this extra information.

  • @mickharrison9004
    @mickharrison9004 2 года назад +469

    35 years service absolutely amazing man ,deserves all respect and his legendary status 🇬🇧

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +16

      He does indeed. A very humble man too.

    • @michaelhurlbut4830
      @michaelhurlbut4830 2 года назад +10

      Fascinating "The rest of the story". What's really remarkable is he climbed up the ranks from private to Lt. Colonel earning every promotion he got.

    • @mickharrison9004
      @mickharrison9004 2 года назад +1

      @@michaelhurlbut4830 I'll tell you a more modern story with a big feat ,that happened with my brother in law which was quite good ,he started as a private and got as high as warrant officer 1 I'm not an army person so not sure ,all I know is my sister said some soldiers said he was gods equivalent lol ,served 23 years and came out with a big pension .

    • @rayjohn9798
      @rayjohn9798 2 года назад +5

      go to every small village in england. they have statues with names of the dead on markers. the sergeant had men he could have confidence in that’s why some of them are names on markers. people pay little regard for them. as to his opposition they fought and lost coming out alive is all that counts brave men all

    • @mijicmugendo
      @mijicmugendo 2 года назад

      A war criminal. Do you like nazi's aswell

  • @robg5958
    @robg5958 2 года назад +141

    Thanks for that one Chris. I remember that the BBC loved to show Zulu every Christmas time and my dad wouldn't have missed it for the world. My favourite line from the film was when Colour Sergeant Bourne announces the arrival of the Zulus on the crest of the hill," Zulus sir, thousands of 'em." He barely bats an eyelid. There's something about the Tommy Atkins understatement which just defines the, "ere we go again " attitude of the British soldier.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +18

      Rob, thanks for sharing. Bank holidays not the same without the compulsory showing of Zulu :)

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris 2 года назад +5

      I always thought 'The Great Escape' was the Christmass movie. (Edited: In the UK although I grew up in Australia).

    • @OMGWTFFYA
      @OMGWTFFYA 2 года назад +3

      In NZ it was always Die Hard

    • @bernardmcmahon5377
      @bernardmcmahon5377 2 года назад +2

      Yea every Christmas, I remember 👍

    • @ceciljohnrhodes4987
      @ceciljohnrhodes4987 2 года назад +3

      That’s phassands of em.

  • @tedgreen6
    @tedgreen6 Год назад +14

    Beautifully told story, Chris. I love the fact that "The Kid" was 5 foot 3. His character, of course, was sky-high. Colour Sergeant Bourne lived and served in a time when duty really was valued. His story is inspiring. Thank you.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your comments & for watching my video

  • @majorronaldmandell7835
    @majorronaldmandell7835 2 года назад +200

    What a great story! I’m so happy to hear that the Color Sergeant was well recognized after the battle, and rose to such great heights later in his career! What a man! You are right! One of the perfect examples of a Victorian British Soldier!

  • @davymckeown4577
    @davymckeown4577 2 года назад +169

    My first CSM, a Coldstream guardsman from Yorkshire reminded me of C/sgt Bourne from the first day I met him as a young recruit in 1976. A no- nonsense, brick shithouse of a man he exemplified professionalism, patience and honesty. I would have numerous CSM's in the following 25 years but he was the only one whom I never heard swear or show anger. I can still hear him say, "You're like a ruddy teddy bear lad", when I fecked up on the parade square. Good man.

    • @davesherry5384
      @davesherry5384 2 года назад +19

      We've all known one of those, I am sure. I was lucky to know a couple of them, whom I admire to this day.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +10

      Davy, thanks for sharing your experiences.

    • @jameseaton4593
      @jameseaton4593 2 года назад +18

      Perhaps a bit silly,but I was compelled to salute my phone screen when I saw his picture at the end. Colonel J.C. Eaton US Army Ret.

    • @davymckeown4577
      @davymckeown4577 2 года назад +10

      @@jameseaton4593 Nothing silly about respecting a fellow warrior brother.

    • @peterhall3405
      @peterhall3405 2 года назад +6

      @@davymckeown4577 Then saulte the Zulus.

  • @charlieleigh7824
    @charlieleigh7824 2 года назад +132

    Brilliantly presented, I really enjoyed the story of Frank Bourne an amazing and courageous soldier, who achieved so much in his long life. I joined the army aged 15 years in 1960 and met many men who reminded me of Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne, their manner and their bearing. Many of those I knew had served during WWII and were coming to end of their service and in some ways laid the blueprint of how we, in later service, would conduct ourselves. I am now a retired British Army Officer.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +6

      Charlie, thank you your sharing your memories and comparisons of the NCO's you met.

    • @Scaleyback317
      @Scaleyback317 Год назад +1

      I joined (also 15 yrs old) in '66 and was thinking exactly the same thought. I came across a very diminutive S/Sgt in the '70's who fits this description to a T. We still chat from time to time on the phone. Steady as a rock, quietly spoken, logical to a fault, never flustered, fit as a butcher's dog and he loved those under his wings like his own sons. Boot up the arse and arms round the shoulder in equal measure. There were others I admired for a variety of reasons but this one man is the one most likely to fill Bourne's boots.

  • @kenlaursen6435
    @kenlaursen6435 3 месяца назад +10

    I always LOVED actor Nigel Green's work.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching my video.

    • @Belaugh
      @Belaugh Месяц назад +1

      The Ipcress File. "Listen to me. Now, listen TO me." Brilliant.

    • @kenlaursen6435
      @kenlaursen6435 Месяц назад

      @@Belaugh I loved that movie, I have collected all of the Harry Palmer movies available.

  • @jerryc3093
    @jerryc3093 2 года назад +236

    In the summer of 1984, at the age of 10, I watched "Zulu" so many times that I memorized the entire script. My friends and I would recreate the battle in our backyards in Virginia with our fences as the breastworks. The next summer dad brought home "Zulu Dawn" on VHS and I almost melted with excitement. Several years later I saw "Khartourm" and was no less enthralled. The Victorian Empire contributed so much to my childhood, lol.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +15

      Jerry, three great films.

    • @FallNorth
      @FallNorth 2 года назад +3

      LOL :)
      I never had QUITE those memories but the man who was my next door neighbour as a kid died recently, and it's both wierd, and strangfely hard :(

    • @OldeJanner
      @OldeJanner 2 года назад

      And for which my nation is constantly attacked by the same enemies today!
      History is being rewritten by the same vermin too!

    • @pointsofsue2487
      @pointsofsue2487 2 года назад +15

      Jerry I watch all 3 of them again and again, and as a British Army Veteran it makes me swell with pride to know I followed in the footsteps of heroes. The most beautiful sight in the world is the British flag flying 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 high.

    • @koitorob
      @koitorob 2 года назад +3

      I was about the same age when i watched it for the first time, but several years earlier. Sadly for me the reason i remember it so well is i had my first migraine while watching it, with blurred vision, much vomitting and a pounding headache from hell!

  • @blackandgus
    @blackandgus 2 года назад +153

    I have to agree that Nigel Green's performance made him one of the highlights of the movie, and I've been laboring under the belief that the real Coulor Sergeant Bourne was awarded the Cross. It's so interesting to hear how he was actually rewarded for his invaluable role in that action, and how he felt about the Zulu warriors who faced the British soldiers at Rourke's Drift. Bourne had a distinguished and inspiring career, and this video was beautifully put together. Excellent work!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed it

    • @malalexander3515
      @malalexander3515 Год назад +2

      We watched Zulu in my high school english class. CSGT Bourne as shown in Zulu was my exemplar for leadership in many facets including volunteer emergency services.

    • @blackandgus
      @blackandgus Год назад +4

      @@malalexander3515 He was worthy of emulation. Always relatively collected and maintained a cool head, but most importantly, he showed a degree of tolerance and consideration for the men under his command. That's the sort of thing that wins respect without diminishing discipline or threatening morale. Whether in the military or a civilian occupation, leadership like that is essential.

    • @waltermalcom3894
      @waltermalcom3894 Год назад

      I agree with all the comments. Total masterpiece of film.

  • @blank557
    @blank557 2 года назад +311

    5' 3" Sgt Bourne reminds me a bit of Audie Muphy, as he too was short at 5' 5", but both were large in performing deeds of valor. It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog that matters.

    • @johnbowkett80
      @johnbowkett80 2 года назад +4

      Yeah ..... Keep telling your wife that old one eh ? 😜

    • @moss8702
      @moss8702 2 года назад +9

      @@johnbowkett80 nah. Tell the Zulu and German's that, tho lol.

    • @fredpearson5204
      @fredpearson5204 2 года назад +13

      @@johnbowkett80, how about he just keeps telling your wife that, eh?

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +10

      Nice comment. Thanks for posting.

    • @GG-ml3vr
      @GG-ml3vr 2 года назад +10

      Hardest basta#d i ever knew was 5 foot one,a real piece of work,gentleman though, despised bullys.

  • @jonthompson3279
    @jonthompson3279 Год назад +10

    A amazing story and a amazing job by Nigel Green. Incredible movie. I saw it when it first came out. Some many amazing scenes. This movie is timeless.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +86

    Color Sgt Bourne epitomizes the professional NCO that is the back bone of every army. His reading and writing for his men, is real part leadership. It generates trust. True leadership isn't based on screaming it is based on trust.

    • @davidw.robertson448
      @davidw.robertson448 2 года назад +4

      How true.

    • @andrewstackpool4911
      @andrewstackpool4911 2 года назад +5

      You are absolutely correct and that saw applies at every level of command. Shouting in recruit school and on parade is one thing; never out on the front or with your men

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +8

      I spent a great deal of my working life and management and supervisory positions. One of the things I did, you could call it my trademark, but I had an issue with an employee I never had a public discussion with the employee. I would get a conference room pull the employee in there and discuss what happened and what could have been different. And I always try to end that counseling moment with a positive note. It was a basic rule I had with my bosses if there was a problem with someone on my team they were to let me know and I would handle any discipline. I've never believed in running around hunting for whose fault things are. What a mistake is made about 80% of the time it's because of lack of understanding or training. An employee gets put in a position to fail, then they get yelled at for it. Well why don't we just stand him up against the wall and execute them while we're at it. Essentially this is how I would solve a mistake. Fix the mistake. Reverse engineer the mistake. This will give you who committed the mistake but it also give you an idea of what's going on at the moment. Once you reverse engineer the mistake you analyze it to see if there was a failure strictly by the employee or was he doing something he wasn't trying to do or did not understand properly. Good training can't be replaced. Companies with high turnover rates never developed culture beyond let's get the hell out of here. You want to keep your employees so you develop a culture of teamwork and the employees investing in what's going on in the company. Well there's my soapbox moment. Doing things basically this way never got me chewed out.

    • @andrewstackpool4911
      @andrewstackpool4911 2 года назад +3

      @@JohnRodriguesPhotographer we used to call it TQM the popular word now is Human Resource Management which infuriates me as since when was a person, like a tap washer or a printer, while the word is ostentatious the best one now is stakeholders. Everyone has a share in organisation output on a positive stage.
      But quite simply it is recognising strengths and weaknesses and addressing same, setting an example and treating all as humans with respect and care and encouraging. Correct errors both job and personal yes that is team building but never derogate or abuse

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +4

      Many thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @steamgent4592
    @steamgent4592 2 года назад +192

    Now that was a fantastic story. He was even a much bigger character in history than they made him out to be in the film.

    • @anthonymori1898
      @anthonymori1898 2 года назад +10

      I was thinking the same thing. A Sharpe’s Rifles type of character. Only in real life. Steady solid character who gave as needed when needed then went home to his family.
      About as British as possible. Did His Duty so to speak.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +7

      Indeed. Shame he didn't have his own film, but there you go.

  • @alexius23
    @alexius23 2 года назад +34

    I first saw Zulu when I was 12. Repeated viewings followed over the years. Now own a blu ray disc. The fact I instantly clicked upon you video shows how much the film & the greater story of Rorke’s Drift has become ingrained into my memory.

    • @mickieg1994
      @mickieg1994 2 года назад +1

      Its an incredible movie, would highly recommend history buffs video on the movie if you have not seen that too

  • @johnhannonHanno
    @johnhannonHanno Год назад +38

    As a recruit at Kapooka we had to watch "ZULU" as it shows what discipline does then later as a recruit instructor myself I watched it with every recruit course we did. 13 of them!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +1

      Interesting. Thanks for sharing

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 Год назад +1

      Thats a great story!
      Join the army and get to watch movies for free

  • @markstarmer3677
    @markstarmer3677 2 года назад +45

    When he reads the roll call at the end, always bring a tear to the eye.

    • @ripvanwinkle2002
      @ripvanwinkle2002 2 года назад

      its, a real memory. far to many of us have in this day and age..

    • @kentonkirkpatrick5225
      @kentonkirkpatrick5225 2 года назад +3

      This scene contains my favorite CS Bourne line: (After someone cracks wise) "No comedians please!".

    • @roymartin8507
      @roymartin8507 2 года назад +3

      Another C/Sgt Bourne line from this scene after the "No comedians please - Say SIR; Officer on parade"

    • @roymartin8507
      @roymartin8507 2 года назад +4

      Also the funny "Hitch, Hitch, I've seen you you're not dead" .... "aren't I?

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing that thought from the film.

  • @barry6482
    @barry6482 2 года назад +75

    I'm into my 70's now and have watched Zulu many times, I have the film on DVD and it sits with others which I consdider all time greats to be viewed as and when. Zulu is one of those films which reflects the social distinctions and attitudes of the time, the bravery and unswerving loyalty to the flag of the British Tommy. When Ivor Emmanuel the Welsh tenor starts and then leads his comrades with Men of Harlech I get a tear in my eye and a lump in my throat every single time, guaranteed.

    • @markborder906
      @markborder906 2 года назад +1

      Same here.

    • @donaldbie8481
      @donaldbie8481 2 года назад

      A great action film. I saw it many times over the years

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Thanks for taking the time to comment. Zulu is still one of my all time favourites.

    • @molyminer007
      @molyminer007 2 года назад +1

      Dear Barry and Mr. history Chap, I too have watched Zulu many times and it is still amongst my favourites. I watched it many times during the 60's and the 70's. When I coerced my kids to watch the movie we noticed that the modern versions have been redacted. I remember Michal Cain, Bromhead, telling Stanley Baker, Chard, Fancy the odds of being born an Englishman and being an officer in HM's army... These words have now disappeared.

    • @markiobook8639
      @markiobook8639 2 года назад +2

      Sgt Bourne was full of well deserved praise for the braves he fought, never being so churlish to sully their name, but being humble enough to acknowledge his own battalions outstanding exemplars of British soldierly courage.
      As a verifiable non racist, a class hero, a defender and supporter of the underclasses (illiterate young men)- we should have a fine bronze statue of Clr Sgt Bourne on London pride of place at Marble Arch. A soldier's soldier, a hero's hero a gallant and chivalrous soldier and a gentleman's gentleman he was all.

  • @grahamhutton1633
    @grahamhutton1633 2 года назад +140

    As a raw recruit in the Australian Army, this movie was shown to us all as part of our basic training

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +9

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @jefferydraper4019
      @jefferydraper4019 Год назад +7

      I always thought this and Porkchop Hill should be used as instructional videos when I was in ROTC in the 80s. Since then adding maybe Blackhawk Down.

    • @James_T_Quirk
      @James_T_Quirk 10 месяцев назад

      So many examples of Defensive battles, Maybe We should study the Maori Wars in NZ, they got a treaty & taught the English Trench warfare @@jefferydraper4019

    • @generalinformation4386
      @generalinformation4386 Месяц назад

      Remember it well. Have loved it ever since. So many lessons for life encapsulated in this one movie.

  • @malalexander3515
    @malalexander3515 Год назад +28

    Thanks for this great presentation on CSGT Bourne. First seen by me in a high school english class, while I was also in the school's cadet unit. He is the epitome of the Senior NCO I later encountered in my Australian Army Reserve service, and the type of SNCO I wanted to be when I attained the rank of Sergeant. The calm, succinct voice of authority. In later times I served as a volunteer fire service officer for 30 years, where this calm succinct voice of authority I believe was key in leading firefighters and assisting worried fire victims. I'm not sure I reached Bourne's standards and of course I didn't have to bayonet a bush fire! On 19th December 2019 I and my crew faced near death during a severe bush fire overrun. The calm succinct voice of authority and firefighters who never once flinched servived the day.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +1

      Mal, thanks so much for taking the time to share your story.

  • @davelafferty605
    @davelafferty605 2 года назад +71

    Thank you so much for this video! Zulu is my all-time favorite war movie, and as a 30-year military veteran myself (CMSgt, USAF, Ret), the valor of Colour Sergeat Bourne strikes me as a ever-ending example to the enlisted force. Well done, Colour, and godspeed.

    • @-NemoMeImpuneLacessit
      @-NemoMeImpuneLacessit 2 года назад +5

      Thank you for taking the care to spell colour the British way.

  • @patmancrowley8509
    @patmancrowley8509 2 года назад +126

    Honestly, when I first watched this movie decades ago, I was amazed at the courage and leadership that brought about the survival of these soldiers at Rorke's Drift. Two decades later I found this movie on DVD and immediately purchased it. This is a once a year "must watch" movie that reminds me of the courage of men and to bring my life's little problems back into perspective. GOD Bless them all, Amen.

    • @teresaharris5833
      @teresaharris5833 2 года назад +9

      I was at school in Epsom and at the end of the sixties we put a drama on stage and someone managed to get some of the uniforms for the show from Stanley Baker who lived in Epsom and was a neighbor. of the person who got them for us to use. The uniforms still had makeup in the collars and were so amazing to have to wear. I love the film Zulu and the wonderful performances given by all the actors. A great British film remembering truly brave men.

    • @Seadog..C5
      @Seadog..C5 2 года назад +1

      Ditto

    • @toi_techno
      @toi_techno 2 года назад +4

      It's a pity the Zulu fighters didn't have guns. Then the fight might have been fair.
      But like we're seeing in Ukraine, invaders can only ever be the baddies.

    • @northlincsfox243
      @northlincsfox243 2 года назад +7

      @@toi_techno The film portrays Zulus firing down on the missionary station from a hillside. Weren’t they using rifles taken from dead soldiers at Isandlwana?

    • @michaelzann6485
      @michaelzann6485 2 года назад +2

      @@northlincsfox243 Yes they were.

  • @jamsheadaziz3999
    @jamsheadaziz3999 2 года назад +77

    One of my favourite scenes in this superb classic is when colour sergeant politely asks the drunk preacher, played by Jack Hawkins, to remain quiet as he's upsetting the lads.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +4

      Wonderful moment. He does it so calmly but with such authority.

    • @Belaugh
      @Belaugh Месяц назад

      "Be quiet, sir. There's a good gentleman." The irony being that Jack Hawkins had lost his voice due to throat cancer but kept working as he could, with the equally wonderful Charles Gray over dubbing. (Richard Attenborough always maintained there is a point in dialogue in The League Of Gentlemen when his voice changes as the affliction first affects him.)

  • @linabasilisk1955
    @linabasilisk1955 Год назад +14

    This definitely proves the old adage that it's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog that counts. I'm 5'3", so this particularly hits home. I loved the character of Color Sergeant Bourne in the movie; it turns out the truth is even better. RIP Lt. Col Bourne.

  • @barryrudge1576
    @barryrudge1576 2 года назад +54

    Great story, thank you, my favourite saying by Colour Sergeant Bourne was "Now sir, be a good gentleman and be quiet, you're upsetting the lads." The type of conversation in Victorian times between someone from a lower working class background to somebody from the middle classes i.e. a man of the cloth, a vicar.

  • @bobbrown5529
    @bobbrown5529 2 года назад +232

    I'm sorry ,, this bloke was not 5ft 3" He was 10 ft tall , I guess one could say , he was a Soldiers Soldier . I joined the Australian Army in 1974 , and Zulu was the movie shown to all recruits , Discipline & Courage are just 2 things that make a SOLDIER .. He does deserve the VC. I think he lead by example .. aussie bob..🥇🥇🥇🍻🍻

    • @nifty1940
      @nifty1940 2 года назад +19

      Yep, stature mate, isn't in the height but the size of the man. Adelaideian Aussie.

    • @cavman7
      @cavman7 2 года назад +15

      I went through Kapooka 1982. Still showed Zulu then.

    • @andrewhart6377
      @andrewhart6377 2 года назад +7

      He was actually 5'6". Look up the documentary on him, by his Grandson. Much more factual info than here. Cheers.

    • @Harldin
      @Harldin 2 года назад +11

      @@cavman7 Went through in 1981, they showed Zulu the night before the Challenge.

    • @arslongavitabrevis5136
      @arslongavitabrevis5136 2 года назад +16

      I had the pleasure and fortune to live in Australia between 1994 and 2005 and I will always remember Australia and Australians with affection. I was (and still am) very fond of military history and when in Australia I learned a lot about the "diggers" and their fantastic deeds on the battlefield. You have a lot to be proud of. Best wishes from Argentina. "Lest We Forget!"

  • @jpeiper314
    @jpeiper314 2 года назад +66

    Men like Frank Bourne are the reason I am proud to be British. Great video

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed it.

    • @frankdillon7958
      @frankdillon7958 Год назад +2

      Was proud !

    • @HenryHaven-c3q
      @HenryHaven-c3q 9 месяцев назад +2

      A Country of 1st class soldiers , fighters and people ! 👏 😊

    • @kengillett3042
      @kengillett3042 3 месяца назад

      Extremely difficult to find anything to be proud about, being English.

    • @std-s7w
      @std-s7w 19 дней назад

      He said British ​@@kengillett3042

  • @Bringontheasteroid
    @Bringontheasteroid Год назад +30

    Nothing but respect for all of those men, incredible bravery.

  • @JavedKhanGrandmaster
    @JavedKhanGrandmaster 2 года назад +38

    This is such a wonderful story. Zulu has been one of my favourite films. I watched it first with my father a WWII veteran when I was 8 or 9 years old. Thanks for making this video. Simply amazing.

  • @ludo9234
    @ludo9234 2 года назад +52

    I really appreciate the work you have done to bring him back to life many years after his passing. I do hope his resting place is well cared for.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.
      ruclips.net/user/TheHistoryChap

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +337

    I saw this movie in the theater in the United States Army base at Munich. It has been a favorite of mine ever since then. I know that historically is not entirely what you would call accurate. I think it does portray the discipline of the British army during its colonial empire building times very accurately. As far as why didn't they just leave? They wouldn't be able out run the Zulus. The cast in the movie I thought it was excellent. I just may have to go back and watch it for the 9 millionth time! It is a part of my collection

    • @fastyaveit
      @fastyaveit 2 года назад +23

      Mine too, if you have got A bridge too far, Kelly's heroes and a Fist full of dollars then I might invite myself and bring some 🍿

    • @majorronaldmandell7835
      @majorronaldmandell7835 2 года назад +13

      I agree totally!

    • @alonsocushing2263
      @alonsocushing2263 2 года назад +9

      @@GrenvilleP710 Invasion may never have been part of the plan but that's what happened. on 11 January 1879, without authorisation from the British Government, Lord Chelmsford crossed the Buffalo River at Rorke's Drift and invaded Zulu Natal.

    • @jemc4276
      @jemc4276 2 года назад +18

      The rapid fire at the movie's crescendo still gives me chills. This was a feature the British Army of the time drilled to death. This one point at least was done fantastically in the movie.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +20

      I think when you see it once you are hooked...well, I was!

  • @richardherndon1541
    @richardherndon1541 Год назад +16

    Being a fan of the movie and an amateur military historian I have often wondered what had become of Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne. Thank you for the information. It was entertaining and informative.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +2

      Glad you found it useful. Thanks for watching

    • @ronbyers9912
      @ronbyers9912 Год назад +2

      His real life was more interesting than I thought possible.

  • @pauldg837
    @pauldg837 2 года назад +58

    That was an excellent presentation. I can still vividly remember watching this movie as an 8 year old in 1964. The sound of what we thought was that of a distant train in the hills, turning out to be the Zulus terrified me. It's funny how these things stick in my memory. Watching it again in years later, impressed upon me the bravery of the soldiers against such overwhelming numbers. It righfully deserves it's place in our military history.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +2

      Paul, I remember being terrified of that distant train sound too!

    • @michaelchambers8807
      @michaelchambers8807 Год назад +1

      Button up that tunic man...don't you know where you are?

  • @hugebartlett1884
    @hugebartlett1884 2 года назад +91

    So often have I thought about that action,and wondered about the Colour Sergeant. Really glad he was decorated and his bravery recognised. Never forgotten the "Because we're 'ere,lad." I am also glad the film took the opportunity to praise the bravery of the Zulus who were fighting for their land. Even Winston Churchill asked about them one day. I recall the noise when the Zulus were approaching,as if a train were coming,the spears beating on the shields. To the few men there,that sound must have been terrifying,as they were in a land so strange and alien and hostile,with no hope of rescue or relief. Victoria Crosses were definitely earned that day.

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 2 года назад +13

      Part of the move was (logically) filmed in South Africa. I have read that the South Africans tried to impose Apartheid style restrictions on the production... and that Stanley Bakers reaction was to threaten to shut down and move to another country to film... I had the great priviledge to visit both Rorkes Drift and Isandhlwana a few years ago... the memorials to BOTH sides are impressive. Our guide at Isandhlwana..a Zulu himself, gave a wonderful and balanced account of the conflict.

    • @richardloring7545
      @richardloring7545 2 года назад +2

      Churchill wasn't involved in the Zulu war.....Served in Sudan....Boer war n WW1 but not Zulu war of 1879...He would have been a young boy im sure...Born in 1874 i think.....

    • @hugebartlett1884
      @hugebartlett1884 2 года назад +6

      @@richardloring7545 Always my belief that he mentioned them in Parliament one day,commenting on their extraordinarily bravery. He was never involved with them himself.

  • @arslongavitabrevis5136
    @arslongavitabrevis5136 2 года назад +207

    Excellent video! You have a gift to bring back to life events and people of the past. I will never forget watching "Zulu" when I was 10 years old in 1969. Although born and bred in Argentina and without a drop of British blood (I am of Italian descent) I remember how I cheered the red coats on. I am 63 years old now and I see with bitterness and anger how white men today (and particularly the British) are "ashamed" of the heroic deeds of their ancestors and apologize for everything you can imagine. We Europeans have nothing to apologize for. Greetings from Buenos Aires.

    • @darrenanderson5260
      @darrenanderson5260 2 года назад

      Shut up

    • @ianwade8668
      @ianwade8668 2 года назад +15

      Hi Ars, excellent post if I may say so. You really hit the nail on the head about having nothing to be ashamed of. Makes me sick to the core to listen to the apologists in this day and age.

    • @arslongavitabrevis5136
      @arslongavitabrevis5136 2 года назад

      @@ianwade8668 Hello Wade and thank you for your kind words. The lack of backbone of so many of our people is infuriating. Another thing that gets me is to see Europeans insulting and attacking each other driven by a narrow-minded and idiotic chauvinism. These idiots are happy to fight over old wars when our countries and cultural heritage are been destroyed. We are all part of a great and wonderful family which produced a magnificent civilization Have a nice day.

    • @FarangbanNok420
      @FarangbanNok420 2 года назад +7

      Well said Sir

    • @LordDreamthief
      @LordDreamthief 2 года назад +10

      As a British "Colonial" born in SA. I am proud to be so. 45 years old and proud to say i am British Colonial. I put it on all the forms when asked for my ethnicity

  • @michaelthompson342
    @michaelthompson342 10 месяцев назад +1

    “Alright! Nobody told you to stop working! Get sweating!” My favourite line. Great presentation. I come back to these videos regularly. Respect from Australia.🇦🇺

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  10 месяцев назад

      He had so many great lines in this film

  • @redtomcat1725
    @redtomcat1725 2 года назад +9

    Frank Bourne a real MAN !!! Your description of his service brought him to life! A hero lives on !!

  • @cameronbrown9080
    @cameronbrown9080 2 года назад +62

    The man is a legend and hero and great to know that he wasn't killed in action and had a long life

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for taking the time to comment.

    • @vectravi2008
      @vectravi2008 2 года назад

      He had luck on his side unlike the 500 or so Zulu who died defending their country.

  • @pdmv8471
    @pdmv8471 2 года назад +47

    One of my favorite all-time movies. Quite intense. Nigel Green, as always, superb performance. And of course, introducing Michael Caine.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +7

      Lots of historical inacuracies but still a brilliant film.

  • @andrewgudgeonobe2721
    @andrewgudgeonobe2721 Год назад +7

    An excellent video which has drawn me to your other material. Films like Rorke’s Drift had a huge impact on me as a child, reading “Washing of the Spears” drew me further into the topic. My favourite quote: “A prayer’s as good as a bayonet on a day like this”

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +1

      It’s a great line. The film probably got me into military history

  • @rogerwhittle2078
    @rogerwhittle2078 2 года назад +45

    The fools that contemplated and started the Zulu war are more or less forgotten, but the VC's and soldiers like Frank Bourne are among those we remember and are most proud. I see no paradox in revering our squadies and their NCO's, while reviling the Lords and Dukes who put them in harms way.
    One of the most fascinating days I have ever spent, was at Isandlwana and Rorke's drift, with a bunch of ZA friends and a proper historical guide. That poor man had to keep talking all day, we asked so many questions. A truly memorable day I shall never forget.

    • @carliencoetzee3674
      @carliencoetzee3674 2 года назад +1

      Fools they were indeed!

    • @johnjames9195
      @johnjames9195 2 года назад

      They were no fools: The Zulus were ruthless, cruel killers who preyed brutally on neighbouring tribes and neded stopping. Read the history!

    • @martynb901
      @martynb901 2 года назад +4

      The British government had no wish for a Zulu war and neither had the Zulus. According to the excellent book I read (too long ago to remember the name) it was a local British official who conjured up an excuse to go to war before the British government could stop him.

  • @haydnjames5617
    @haydnjames5617 2 года назад +61

    What a colorful life and dedicated man to his service for his country. Thanks for giving this perspective of such an amazing man. We only see the short films or scripts and never hear about the end game. He was truly a warrior and survivor. I am sure there are many just like him forgotten in history who have some amazing stories to tell. Please keep doing this

    • @peterhall3405
      @peterhall3405 2 года назад

      What service to what country? Tell me, exactly. I'm sure he was brave. That does not mean he served anyone but the very rich of the time. He served the vey same people pushing children up chimneys, forcing people into such bad working conditions that their faces melted (see the match girls strike). And he did so by going to far off lands and killing the indigenous people. So yeah, he's brave - but do you really want his kind to carry on supporting the establishment?

    • @haydnjames5617
      @haydnjames5617 2 года назад +2

      @@peterhall3405 If you have served in the armed forces you will know, "serving your Country" is a very loose term used here. Its actually about the soldier to your left and to your right. About preparing to die, and serve for the troops with you... He gave his all, and he was lucky to survive. What a great man with a great story to tell

    • @peterhall3405
      @peterhall3405 2 года назад

      @@haydnjames5617 He went to some body else's country. And killed them.

    • @Cormano980
      @Cormano980 2 года назад

      Well , he was the Colour Sargent

    • @davidtuer5825
      @davidtuer5825 2 года назад

      @@haydnjames5617 Why on earth do you think he was in the army in the first place?

  • @honeyfitz3791
    @honeyfitz3791 2 года назад +72

    In the film, the two commissioned officers are often excited and angry but Colour Sergeant Bourne never loses his composure. Even during his bayonet fight, one of the most dramatic moments in a film with many such moments, he is in complete control. Compare his movements and facial expression with that of the young Zulu warrior he is fighting. His greater skill and self-confidence, the result of years of training and combat experience, are obvious. Like the sword fight near the beginning of the Seven Samurai, there is never any doubt about who will win.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +11

      Thanks for posting. Of course the irony between the film and real life was that in the battle it was Bourne who was the youngster and the Zulus were middle aged men

    • @labellaescrima1996
      @labellaescrima1996 2 года назад +4

      years of experience he was just 25 years old not much experience if you ask me, but the character of the man made the difference, he was calm, in control, focus, and did not panic in front of danger now that's what makes a good soldier.

    • @johnhannonHanno
      @johnhannonHanno Год назад +2

      Private Hook was actually a good soldier, not like he is shown in the movie.

    • @catherinehiley3274
      @catherinehiley3274 Год назад

      The Zulu stands among the greatest warriors of history and even they were wary of the redcoats bayonets they developed a technique of 2 against 1 one drawing an attack while the other finished em off

  • @harryborsalino1276
    @harryborsalino1276 Год назад +9

    Great interesting and informative video! Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne was perhaps my favorite character in the movie version of the battle of Rorke's Drift, and it was surprising to me that he did not receive the VC. It was good to learn that not only was he offered the choice of a VC or a commission, but that eventually he rose as high as he did. in the US Navy, the signal flag hoist for "Well Done" is Bravo Zulu, and that seems somehow appropriate for the gallant Colour Sergeant known as The Kid.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад +1

      Thank you for taking the time to both watch and to comment

  • @andrewsteele7663
    @andrewsteele7663 2 года назад +19

    Chris, what an amazing topic. When I joined the army [1980] the movie was a must watch prior to attending your first promotion course for corporal. And this was 1980 and only a couple of people in the lines [barracks] had a video player. So you had to sign out the tape out from the OIC training and then we as a group [5or 6] would cram into a room in the lines to watch and re watch the movie. There was no History Chap and RUclips. We were in a rage when we saw that he did not get the VC. And no one knew this amazing story. He was a brilliant soldier and they are few and far between. Just in the past week I have purchased some brand new copies of the movie as well as Zulu Dawn. Not for me to watch as I have on my hard drive. Just in case I loose my copy, they will remain in their clear wraps. Colour Sargent Bourne was an inspiration to myself and many young soldiers over the decades, Cheers love your video's

  • @jrhawk574
    @jrhawk574 2 года назад +65

    Thank you so much for bringing this to us.
    "ZULU" was a fantastic historical film and those of us in military service in the 60'S hoped to be as strait up as this Color Sergeant Bourne..what a great career and contribution he made during his 40 year career..played by Nigel Green . It was a terrible loss when Green passed at only 47 yrs of age.

    • @harryricochet8134
      @harryricochet8134 2 года назад

      Kaffir War? I thought that was the alternate title for Lethal Weapon 1

    • @Stantheman848
      @Stantheman848 2 года назад

      It wasnt that terrible

  • @barrygray7990
    @barrygray7990 2 года назад +31

    I visited Rorkes Drift in 1996. Standing there and remembering the battle, sent shivers thro' me.

    • @vectravi2008
      @vectravi2008 2 года назад +1

      Is that because you were thinking of the 500 Zulu who died defending their country?

    • @suegray8507
      @suegray8507 2 года назад +3

      @@vectravi2008 Snide comment.

    • @vectravi2008
      @vectravi2008 2 года назад

      @@suegray8507 why would you say that?

    • @vectravi2008
      @vectravi2008 2 года назад +1

      @@suegray8507 Perhaps Barry experienced those shivers because he was wondering what those British soldiers were doing so many thousands of miles from home fighting to take the land from the Zulu people against their will?
      If the situation was reversed the British would call the Zulu terrorists.
      So, why did Barry experience those shivers?

    • @sgray2424
      @sgray2424 2 года назад +1

      @@vectravi2008 the WOKE have arrived. Let's all pray for forgiveness shall we

  • @lamoe4175
    @lamoe4175 9 месяцев назад +6

    I wrote this for American Vets but it applies to all those who keep their country free.
    "America should be grateful they have men like us to protect them from men like us"

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching my video and thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 2 года назад +25

    The color sergeant is my personal hero too in this movie! History Chap your video cleared up a lot of questions I've asked myself over the decades. I'm glad that this humble hero had a storied life. I salute this magnificent soldier!

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 2 года назад +63

    Even with just 5'3" I can imagine the real Colour Sergeant Bourne to have been a "towering" presence on the battlegrounds of Rourke's Drift that day!
    I was very glad to hear that he went on to have an excellent career in the British army and even lived to witness VE Day in Britain in May 1945. What a life, and gladly a far better one than many of the VC holders from Rourke's Drift experienced.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +4

      Thanks for your support.

    • @stevensenator4804
      @stevensenator4804 Год назад +3

      I have known a few men who, while on the short side, were perceived as being far taller than they actually were. In fact, one in particular was much shorter than me, but I often thought he was taller. This was primarily due to their attitude, demeanor and bearing.

    • @michaelrichardson6051
      @michaelrichardson6051 9 месяцев назад

      Audie Murphy was only 5 foot 6 inches tall.

  • @audreyharalambos2592
    @audreyharalambos2592 2 года назад +10

    thank you so much if only history at school could have been this good, i could not say how many times i have watched zulu, it is in my top 5, thank you for letting us know what happened to this magnificent soldier who gave his all. two survivors from rorkes drift are buried in philips park near where my daughter is buried, i hope they are keeping her safe lol its an honour to have her buried in the same grounds, the graves were discovered by a journalist i believe and he arranged for them to be cleaned up and sorted out which is the least they could have done, WE WILL REMEMMBER THEM XXXX

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Audrey, thank you for taking the time to share those very moving sentiments.

  • @mailer37
    @mailer37 Год назад +2

    What an incredible man! Thank you for putting this magnificent video together, i really enjoyed watching it💯 Needless to say, 'liked & subbed'

  • @junaidazam12
    @junaidazam12 2 года назад +66

    His real story, especially life after the Boer war, is even more impressive and inspiring

  • @RipperXIX
    @RipperXIX 2 года назад +31

    This gave me goosebumps. A true British hero.

  • @howardamey7228
    @howardamey7228 2 года назад +10

    I have watched ZULU many time and have a good deal of books and periodicals on Rourkes Drift and the Anglo-Zulu war. Your presentation is excellent. Keep your videos coming.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      That's very kind. Thanks for your support.

  • @roo5169
    @roo5169 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic summary of an absolute hero that quite literally made Britain Great. Thank you very much you have inspired me to look deeper in Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne.

  • @stefanadamcik8221
    @stefanadamcik8221 2 года назад +11

    Thank you for telling the story of this amazing man. He honours all soldiers everywhere by his example.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed the story.

    • @trevorpettingill4871
      @trevorpettingill4871 День назад

      If he saw England now he would wonder why he gave his all for

  • @jeffjacobs7960
    @jeffjacobs7960 2 года назад +11

    What a wonderful indictment of the supreme bravery of those at Rorkes Drift. Your information on Colour Sergeant Bournes service to his country, and his subsequent promotions give us a real insight into his obvious quality as a serviceman. What a life he led!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Jeff, thank you for taking the time to comment. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @michaelcharlton8896
    @michaelcharlton8896 2 года назад +17

    Thank you - another very interesting video! My favourite Colour Sgt Bourne quote is the one you mentioned - "Because we're 'ere lad - and no one else. Just us." He also says the quote that has been wrongly attributed to Michael Caine by one or two impressionists in the past: "...Zulus... - thousands of them!" Except he says "The sentries report Zulus to the south west - thousands of them." And I've just remembered another Colour Sgt Bourne quote: Near the beginning of the film, Bromhead is out hunting, and a rifle shot in the distance is heard at the Drift. Hughes (he of the bushy mutton chops and moustache) hangs out the hospital window and asks "Colour Sergeant Bourne, what's that shooting?" "A rifle, Hughes" comes Bourne's reply! Great stuff. The rock formation that is the dramatic backdrop to the film is called "The Amphitheatre" and if you were to climb that escarpment, you'd more or less be in Lesotho at the top. It makes for a great background, but is actually about 100 miles to the south west of the real Rorke's Drift. It's a fantastic location though!

    • @stuartmcpherson1921
      @stuartmcpherson1921 2 года назад +1

      A South African friend told me the film location was chosen as it was more scenic.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +1

      I think you've watched Zulu more than once!!!!

  • @lightwoven5326
    @lightwoven5326 Год назад +2

    My initial thoughts was that the care about those who served under him. He knew every detail of their lives intimately and yet engendered respect.
    Even in the height of battle in real life he appears to have strengthened them. Just doung his job is astonishing and in many aspects above even what the VC represents.
    Thank you for putting context to a much loved character and the story is bigger than I could have imagined.

  • @motorcop505
    @motorcop505 2 года назад +12

    Thanks for this video! Being born in 65 I didn’t see this until I saw it on tv in the 70’s and was completely hooked! I later became an infantry captain in the USAR. I look forward to seeing the stories on the other defenders!

    • @howabout8611
      @howabout8611 2 года назад

      Apologies for my ignorance but what is ÜSAR"? No offence intended as I'm Australian,

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Glad you enjoyed.

  • @colinsmith7465
    @colinsmith7465 2 года назад +15

    Great video Chris, well researched and presented. You certainly highlight the courage and bravery of the British forces down through the ages. Fantastic!

  • @willblack5419
    @willblack5419 2 года назад +38

    One of the best films ever made. And the portrayal of the Sargent was genius. Great film, great actor.

    • @trollmeistergeneral3467
      @trollmeistergeneral3467 2 года назад +1

      He was not a “Sargent,” whatever that is / was. He was, at that time, a Colour Sergeant.

    • @mountainmantararua8824
      @mountainmantararua8824 2 года назад +1

      Obviously you are talking about Nigel Green the actor, this isn't about him, it's about C/S Bourne.

  • @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
    @CaptainHarlock-kv4zt Год назад +4

    I love this. Finally.. the common soldier deserves some recognition.
    Greetings from Greece.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад

      Hello Greece. Thanks for your support. From a very rainy Chester, England

  • @neiloconnor9349
    @neiloconnor9349 2 года назад +7

    Brilliant!! For the past thirty years, I've made it a point to view "Zulu" on a semi-annual basis. The Battle of Rorke's Drift is an amazing story of military discipline & survival.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Neil, thanks for taking the time to comment.

  • @RareSense
    @RareSense 2 года назад +6

    Fantastic narrative. Zulu is my all time favourite movie even today. It was powerful without the gore of todays films yet conveying a number of strong messages and lessons. Bourne was my favourite character in the film and it was great to read the after story to Roukes drift. My father being a commissioned officer and myself a senior sergeant policing in Australia both with para military backgrounds loved the roll call scene where he calls out Hicks who doesn’t respond “Hicks your alive, l saw you!” Lol lol even all these years my dad and l still joke using this line at appropriate times…. Lol lol Thank you again for doing a great job. :)

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing your stories. Glad you enjoyed my video.

  • @matthewballard6399
    @matthewballard6399 2 года назад +21

    Sir your videos bring tears to my eyes..due to the often sad loses...but mainly due to the pride in our military forces and history..thank you.

  • @roycelabor4339
    @roycelabor4339 Год назад

    I can't count the number of times that I've watched Zulu. I was 10 when I first saw it in the theater and as I remember, sat through it several times. You could do that back then. It still gives me a thrill to this day as I approach my 70th trip around the sun. Without a doubt, Colour Sergeant Bourne was/is my favorite character. My favorite quote from him is "Button up that tunic man...where do you think you are?" In my 22 years of service in the Army, I had the honor and privilege of serving with a number of NCOs whose character was just like that of the good Colour Sergeant. Great job Sir!

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed my video about colour Sergeant Bourne

  • @Vanjasper
    @Vanjasper 2 года назад +85

    This made me think of my great grandfather (father's side of the family) who was also a Victorian soldier. Don't know a huge amount about him, but the contrast to Colour Sergeant Bourne couldn't have been more different. A Dubliner and total madman by all accounts. Shot in the behind on some campaign, he did make sergeant, but was busted down to private fob being drunk and disorderly while commanding the guard in Gibraltar. All on my G'father's side were British Army men, One John Doyle took part in the Charge of the Light Brigade, 8th Hussars, his horse was shot from under him and he walked back through the valley with his saddle and accoutrements according to the role call taken next morning.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +19

      Dave, what an interesting family history. Thanks for sharing.

    • @markyinbelfastxx9088
      @markyinbelfastxx9088 2 года назад +7

      Legend !

    • @jimbo6693
      @jimbo6693 2 года назад +15

      Yes mate my great, great grandad with the same name as me James Petford was there as well with the inniskilling dragoon guards "the heavy brigade". Found this out a few years ago when I had my family tree done. Not sure but I believe the heavy brigade were ordered to charge the Russian guns first and suffered heavy losses. My grandad survived but apparently drowned on one of the troop ships returning home after a fire broke out on board . Men of Steel mate so proud to bear his name. We'll never see their like again. 👍

    • @geoffboxell9301
      @geoffboxell9301 2 года назад +10

      My Irish Great-Grand-Dad Richard Connell had been a professional soldier in the Coldstream Guards. He had fought the Fuzzie-Wuzzies in the Sudan, he had fought the Boer in South Africa, he had fought the Germans in WWI and had been discharged at war’s end with a stiff leg. After the War he made a living manufacturing antiques, so my Mum told me. Yes, manufacturing them: he would find a suitable looking modern piece and then “age it”, using ink, dyes and an old bicycle chain to put dents in it and generally distressing the furniture it it before selling it on at a profit to some mug punter. I only remember him from when I was but a little kid. His lungs had been damaged by mustard gas in WWI and he often spent time in hospital in an oxygen tent. The great London Smog of 1952, which got in everywhere, including the hospital ward he was in with its closed windows, killed him.
      When WWII was declared he tried to re-enlist in the Army. He tried to disguise his stiff leg (which was such that when going to the cinema he had to always have the last seat in the row because he had to poke his stiff leg out into the passageway, only for people to trip over it in the dark). The Army would not take him, so he joined the NAAFI. When the Americans at last joined the war he was transferred to a base where they were based. He though that they were a bit simple and took them for a ride getting 12 slices from a cake instead of the stipulated 10, short pouring beer so he made a pint in 10 pours etc, etc. All with him pocketing the difference. He also pilfered spirits and when ever he came home on leave the neighbours were pissed out of their brains on what he brought home.
      I remember him as being like Father Christmas with longish wavy white hair and beard and the fact that he always had 6d for my young aunts Margaret, Molly and for me when we saw him.
      His lungs had been damaged by mustard gas in WWI and he often spent time in hospital in an oxygen tent. The great London Smog of 1952, which got in everywhere, including the hospital ward he was in with its closed windows, killed him.

    • @katrinapaton5283
      @katrinapaton5283 2 года назад

      By coincidence my distant relative, Brigadier John Stafford Paton was QMG for the British expedition to the Sudan, or so Ive been led to believe. I'm not entirely sure the two of them would have gotten on.

  • @tubularfrog
    @tubularfrog 2 года назад +13

    Wonderful video exploring the unforgettable character that Nigel Green portrayed in the Battle of Rorke's Drift, Zulu! Frank Bourne was an extraordinary soldier, and the men were lucky to have him there for his leadership during the battle. Thanks for producing this retelling of history. In the movie, I like the exchange that Bourne has with the preacher when they're getting bags of grain out to build fortifications and he recites the Psalms. I love history.

  • @paulhemingway9149
    @paulhemingway9149 2 года назад +7

    Absolutely brilliant Chris.
    I did a lecture around 5 years ago on the Martini Henry 577X450 and it’s failings in the battle of Isandlwana.
    I wish I had this information.
    Well done.

  • @hazzzee
    @hazzzee 2 года назад +1

    Thank you, that was great, you have won my subscription sir, I look forward to many more of your podcasts, take care.

  • @davesherry5384
    @davesherry5384 2 года назад +145

    What a damned brilliant example of a man, citizen and soldier! He was then, when I first saw the film, and now an inspiration to me. I see now why the wokesters of the past and today want memories of him and others like him to be suppressed - he and they might positively influence youngsters away from mobile phones and BS.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +7

      Thank you for taking the time to comment.

    • @justicar5
      @justicar5 2 года назад

      Genocidal armed robbers and rapists should be our inspiration? I suppose the pedo priests of christ should be our moral guides, when we can tear them away from the toddlers.... You want the forgotten heroes? Study the Zulu's (about the only time they could be described as heroes is when contrasted with the European empires, otherwise they were ruthless conquerors. )

    • @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator
      @ResidentEyebrowAppreciator 2 года назад +2

      Don't know if it's possible to be a "brilliant example of man" and a soldier at the same time. Especially in the context of the British empire

    • @justicar5
      @justicar5 2 года назад

      @@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator it isn't. Murderous savage and racist was the entry requirement, child.molester was a bonus, and ofc the entire military were armed robbers, that was literally the only reason they existed.
      Rorkes Drift is a criminal gang of thugs, thieves and rapists killing the owners of the land to steal diamonds from them. That is all it was and is.
      But sure celebrate rapists and thieves, praise paedos and cultists, and pretend this disgusting, perverse death cult is worth anything.

    • @jeremymasterson5818
      @jeremymasterson5818 2 года назад +12

      @@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator I believe you are missing the point. From our perspective in today's world, we can easily see the ills and even crimes (by today's standards) of colonialism. It is not fair though to impose our standards on those who actually lived the time - this or any other. The virtues of courage, bravery, living ones principles - even in the face of death, leadership and military skill can and should be celebrated in the absence of the political or social milieu of the day.

  • @johnfellows2867
    @johnfellows2867 2 года назад +4

    When Zulu was released at our local cinema, my friend and I managed to stay in and watch it twice on the first day !!
    And in 2016, my son , who lived in South Africa at the time, drove us both down to Isandlwana and Rorkes Drift to visit
    the battlefield sites. Still cant believe I went there , so amazing !!

  • @geoffreychadwick8230
    @geoffreychadwick8230 2 года назад +31

    Went to Rorke's Drift on the 121st anniversary of the battle, and also visited the Isandhlwana battlefield of the night before. Awesome! And to hear the Zulu women singing in the church at Rorke's Drift was fantastic.

  • @CrazySC833
    @CrazySC833 Год назад +1

    Absolutely brilliant, mate. I MUST say that your youtube channel quite supplants the likes of the History channel as well as all of the others. Your channel is like military history à la carte! Cannot wait for your next release!

  • @Cbabilon675
    @Cbabilon675 2 года назад +10

    An amazing story, about an amazing man. I just find it so incredible about how humble he was yet he was also so determined.

  • @klackon1
    @klackon1 2 года назад +27

    Frank Bourne: What a truly brilliant soldier. Private to Lt. Col., an amazing achievement given the period in which he served. At the time of Rorke's Drift, the 24th was also known as the 2nd Warwickshire Regiment of Foot. I've always considered it strange, that a regiment from my home county would become a Welsh regiment, given that Warwickshire has no border with Wales.

    • @ianhunterisgod
      @ianhunterisgod 2 года назад +4

      The 24th Foot or 2nd Warwickshires were renamed in 1881 as the South Wales Borderers, but they had been based at Brecon since 1873 and so they had been recruiting higher numbers of Welshmen.

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад

      They established a recruiting depot at Brecon in the 1870's. Then the army reforms re-named the regiment.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Год назад

      @Ryan TWO privates became field marshals, IF you accept that Sir Hector MacDonald became August von Mackensen.

  • @johnhanson5943
    @johnhanson5943 2 года назад +65

    As an ex Natalian, it was very interesting visiting these sites as a teenager. Many others were there. Little outposts in Zululand on the tops of Koppies (hills). There were little military cemeteries with regimental graves. They were completely untended then. Grown over. I heard many were later disturbed / robbed for tunic buttons, etc. Very sadly! Almost all of the soldiers died of disease. As was mainly the case all over colonial Africa and Asia. Probably only a minority fell in combat.

    • @badguy1481
      @badguy1481 2 года назад

      2/3rd's of the military deaths, in the American Civil War, were due to disease.

    • @carliencoetzee3674
      @carliencoetzee3674 2 года назад

      Disease? That's new! Please tell us about the diseases - what kind and numbers of deaths? They were NOT very good marksmen, you know. The problem with the Boers of those days were that they were excellent marksmen, but didn't bother to count the corpses as their only objective was to DEFEND the only homeland they knew and loved so dearly. And they had their training from a very young age by hunting on horseback for survival. Given the fact that they had only muzzle loader black powder guns and ammunitions were very hard to obtain, they had to make every shot count. That's why they were excellent marksmen.

    • @badguy1481
      @badguy1481 2 года назад

      @@carliencoetzee3674 During the Civil War, both the federal and the confederate governments drafted young men for military duty. They put those men in very crowded military camps. The problem: Many of those men were from farm families that had little contact outside their immediate communities...or even their own farms. As a result, they had very little immunity to even childhood diseases like Chicken pox, mumps or measles.

  • @steve1962
    @steve1962 2 года назад +6

    Small man, stout heart. Amazing character and such a shame that we can't hear his voice from that interview. Thanks for sharing.

  • @howardtucker5251
    @howardtucker5251 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for this story behind the man - a real person who served our country in the best traditions, in one of the most famous battles (among hundreds!).

  • @mcgregorpiper
    @mcgregorpiper 2 года назад +14

    What an amazing life experience.
    From the Zulu War to the end of WWII.
    You already recited my favourite line; the simple stoic answer,”Because we are here.”

    • @TheHistoryChap
      @TheHistoryChap  2 года назад +1

      Sorry for stealing your favourite line!

  • @akacadian3714
    @akacadian3714 2 года назад +33

    As an American Infantryman I always viewed Color SGT Bourne as the epitome of the British NCO. Hard as nail and steady under pressure.

    • @soggybottom3463
      @soggybottom3463 2 года назад +4

      Recently watched one of your colleagues, clearly a black off duty NCO, drop some antifa muppet who's mama never taught manners. Warmed my heart for days. 👍👍🤗🤗

    • @jamosmcginty
      @jamosmcginty 2 года назад +3

      My dear boy, its COLOUR Sergeant Bourne!

  • @markewald6995
    @markewald6995 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's hard to have a 'favorite' quote, but I always got a kick out of, "Aaall right, no one told you to stop working". Truly the epitome of what being an NCO is all about.