Haha, thanks for the good laugh Ivan. But couldn't agree more, push button arm/disarm toggles are just a bad idea. I get that they wanted to make it hard to accidentally arm (which I've done few times on my good ole X9D+ and even cut my fingers up once) , but it is also important for disarming to be also be easy. Back when I was learning to fly I botched the disarm on a few landings next to myself and nearly shat myself when airmode tried to over compensate for the quad being restricted by the ground. Nothing worse than obseving yourself being attacked by a rogue quad from the perspective of said quad 😂
I have a TBS Tango II pro wherein I am in the habit of arming/Disarming with the two position push button .Recently shifted to Boxer ,the form factor is really great 👍 as discussed "wierdly"😂 by you . You are a great reviewer and I love your video on the GPS rescue on BF 4.4 which has helped me a lot.I view that video many times just to laugh out 😊😅😅😅. Great work 👏.
I do the same thing on tango2 for arm/disarm, inverted switch, push in to disarm, button is tactical flashlight style it engages before it latches in so you can get it every time even while wearing thick gloves in colder weather, you have to be more careful to unlatch the switch out which is best for arming as it will not arm until it clears the latch. Must let the switch travel fully out to arm. I also have it hardwired mentally to raise the throttle after disarming (before picking up your quad), even if you have a pre-arm its just good practice as additional layer of arm prevention. EDIT: if you do this ensure your armed signal is still high/max on the channel over the air, some protocols such as expresslrs relies on that expectation.
I find that the radio case is great for whoop batteries, goggle cable, a few spare props, prop tool, SD cards, etc. Also never have to worry about hanging up my radio or accidentally turning it on.
I switched to the boxer earlier this year after flying Spektrum since 2015! I am currently using the latching push button for arming/disarming, but I ordered a spare boxer shell and button kit and I plan on designing and printing a conversion plate that will replace the button with a 2-position switch. Apparently I'm also weird, because I do keep my radio in its case with the gimble protector :)
Lol! The internals of the button is pretty huge and hard mounted on the motherboard... So completely removing it would take more work. But probably doable....
Make sure you share the design if you do! Limon is right though the switch is soldered to the main board SOLIDLY so it is not trivial to remove like a switch normally is, but would love to see a replacement.
I've also been a Spektrum user for years... Just re-entered the hobby and found ELRS and RadioMaster. Received my Boxer and ag01 gimbals... I'm looking at my DX18 with disgust...
I love the 2 pos button for exactly the Arm/Disarm use, I can arm or rearm faster and more confidently with button, started with TangoII, then T-Pro, now I have Zorro and still learning to re-arm with flip switch again
Yeah, I need the flip switch for sure for arming and disarming. It’s why I sold the tango and didn’t bother with the mambo. Don’t know what made me think the boxer would be different, but I bought it and it’s not so now it’s in the box it came in and I still use my X9D. Never thought to move one of the switches to the top like you did though which is an awesome idea! I’m inspired! Ty
Radiomaster pocket will disarm mid flight regularly. The buttons actuate after a couple mm and they take no force to actuate, they flutter on and off in sims when you just brush against them. That same behavior will disarm the drone. When i use the RM Pocket my drones arm with the scroll wheel.
I solved the problem of the internal antenna by removing the SMA panel mount and installing a basic Happymodel RX antenna flush with the outside of the case. Held in place with a TPU plug. It gives me un-attenuated signal from the top of my radio while still being able to chuck it in a bag.
Regarding the touchscreen using more power, there is a setting to make it turn off automatically if there's no button/touch input for an adjustable amount of time. I don't remember from the top of my head what it's called but I do have it setup on my TS16X.
I really like using the top right button on the Tango 2 as arm. Too bad the top right button on Boxer is momentary and also much longer travel. 100% agree with you on the power switch. I wish someone made a gimbal with out a notch in the center. Similar to my high end flight sim sticks from Virpil. Just a smooth soft center.
@Limon, the solution is pretty simple, no need to install switches, you just need to invert SE channel and that's it. So for disarm you only need to do one move, push it. It's not big deal to do push-release on arming.
@@IvanEfimovLimon - I am so scared to keep my arming/disarming on switch, just because of the fact that it happened couple of times in the middle of the flight, I've flipped the switch by accident. It's much more difficult to do that accidentally if using that button.
Radiomaster tx16s carbon markII Max 4in1 all the way. I am weird led gimbal leds coming up. I am also a fan of the push button power switches. Calms my ocd knowing i have to hold the button to shut it off. Its whatever you like tho:)
A long while back I got a Tango 2 which has similar trigger position switches. But I actually find it to be better and I even moved to using my right finger instead of my left. Since then I find that I have much more precision disarming like I able to disarm right as I touch the ground lightly in this way. So after getting use to it I have to say, no... in my opinion one you get use to it it's actually better and maybe consider setting it up for your right trigger finger.
Been flying the boxer since release and I dont see a problem with the two position switch if anything it feels more accessible but then again im a pincher
I i'm weird as fuck haha - I really wish Radiomaster made the antenna to be foldable or came with a 90 degree adapter so that I do not have to constantly remove the antenna everytime I want to transport it.
I am weird af, also i don't have a lot of stuff to pack so it's fits well in my pack. My power light is green now. After i almost messed my radio up but got it flashed last minute it turned green and not blue anymore
When I saw the boxer release I can't explain how fast I ordered one. I have been flying it for 4 months and it became my daily the minute I got it to the point I can't hold my TX16S anymore. I also use the button press for arming even at mayhem amd had no issues....
At first I didn't agree with you until I received my boxer max and configured all my quads to arm with the button. Now I totally agree. Way too much to do in a panic. I'm arming with the SA switch now. Much faster. By the way I absolutely love this transmitter! Great video bro. I should have listened 😏
I remember pulling the tx16s with the radiomaster ranger out of my bag to realise it had turned on and was runnning at 1w elrs. The ranger was very hot. All because the button got pushed and turned on in bag
I find the toggle much more difficult to actuate. More force required. The whole controller moves and quads moves more.. I thumb throttle and leave pointer on shoulder arm switch.
I happen to be a weiro who loves that 2 pos flush switch… i fly hybrid pinch and my left ring finger is always resting on it and ive just gotten used to it by now… but Boxer, w ag01? Love it..
I personally use the top left switch for arming since it's right on the face and I can instantly fling my fingers out to knock the switch away from me without moving my hands, but I'm planning on using the latching button as a pre-arm I've just been lazy and haven't set it up
I use the top left switch to arm and the momentary switch on the right shoulder as a pre-arm. That way It takes both hands on the radio to arm the quad. It works great! I'm a mostly hybrid pincher so disarming is as easy as a flick of my left index finger on the SA switch.
Never use buttons for arming! This button can do false-positives, if you don’t believe me: set an aux on this button, press this button, and then watch how the value changes in betaflight configurator when you shake your boxer or when you just tap this button slightly
I am weird. Im worried switches or antennas would break in my bag. Definitely not a fan of the left push switch. Although i use the right one for the beeper.
Ivan, I am weird AF 😅 I have Boxer Max with the AG01, and I see that both sticks got slight jitter, values are jumping +\- 4 in average. Is there a way to fix it? Is it “normal”? 🤔 this is a first time In my experience.
I'm weird AF because this is one of my favorite channels 😂
Appreciate it, man! :)
Mine too, guess we both weird AF.😂 Great job Limon.
Me 3…… love it
Me 4. And I'm not even a racer! I'm a freestyle pilot, a shit one at that. Still love this channel!
@@William_NS thanks for the support dude!
Ivan, I am weird as fжck.
Ivan, it is you who are the weird one =D
Nice vid
nooo, people using separate cases for radio are mooar weird )
Love your content. You've got some valid points here. I totally agree on the screen and battery life.
Thanks man!
Ivan I am weird. Thanks you very much sir
Thank you too! :)
Hi! I am Lemon, and you gonna learn something today BUT WITH A SMILE! :) Well done bro!
Thanks man! :)
i feel like I can learn a lot of life lessons from Sweaty Box Man
The SA switch is very convenient for disarming for pinchers and hybrid pinchers
Ivan, damn glad to meet and hang out with you at IO! Hopefully I won't go breaking my ankle again next year, haha!
Momentary shoulder button for pre-arm, latching shoulder for buzzer :-) also I’m Feird as Wuck. Love the nightspot outros ❤
Haha, thanks for the good laugh Ivan. But couldn't agree more, push button arm/disarm toggles are just a bad idea. I get that they wanted to make it hard to accidentally arm (which I've done few times on my good ole X9D+ and even cut my fingers up once) , but it is also important for disarming to be also be easy. Back when I was learning to fly I botched the disarm on a few landings next to myself and nearly shat myself when airmode tried to over compensate for the quad being restricted by the ground. Nothing worse than obseving yourself being attacked by a rogue quad from the perspective of said quad 😂
100% man! Glad you had good time watching! :)
I appreciate your violent friend, as well. Looks like I'm in the right place 😊
just so happy watching your review. I dont know why hahahah so cool
This is awesome 😅
Красавчик, прекрасная подача, непонятно как набрел на твой канал, привет от Канадского фпв комьюнити!
Спасибо! Привет Канаде :)
Dual arm with momentary and 2 position, then disarm with momentary. Safe and easy.
I have a TBS Tango II pro wherein I am in the habit of arming/Disarming with the two position push button .Recently shifted to Boxer ,the form factor is really great 👍 as discussed "wierdly"😂 by you .
You are a great reviewer and I love your video on the GPS rescue on BF 4.4 which has helped me a lot.I view that video many times just to laugh out 😊😅😅😅.
Great work 👏.
I was thinking about Tango2 button, cuz it's like a switch, that could be best of both worlds, but never tried it. Thanks man!
I do the same thing on tango2 for arm/disarm, inverted switch, push in to disarm, button is tactical flashlight style it engages before it latches in so you can get it every time even while wearing thick gloves in colder weather, you have to be more careful to unlatch the switch out which is best for arming as it will not arm until it clears the latch.
Must let the switch travel fully out to arm. I also have it hardwired mentally to raise the throttle after disarming (before picking up your quad), even if you have a pre-arm its just good practice as additional layer of arm prevention. EDIT: if you do this ensure your armed signal is still high/max on the channel over the air, some protocols such as expresslrs relies on that expectation.
I find that the radio case is great for whoop batteries, goggle cable, a few spare props, prop tool, SD cards, etc. Also never have to worry about hanging up my radio or accidentally turning it on.
I switched to the boxer earlier this year after flying Spektrum since 2015! I am currently using the latching push button for arming/disarming, but I ordered a spare boxer shell and button kit and I plan on designing and printing a conversion plate that will replace the button with a 2-position switch.
Apparently I'm also weird, because I do keep my radio in its case with the gimble protector :)
Lol! The internals of the button is pretty huge and hard mounted on the motherboard... So completely removing it would take more work. But probably doable....
Make sure you share the design if you do! Limon is right though the switch is soldered to the main board SOLIDLY so it is not trivial to remove like a switch normally is, but would love to see a replacement.
I've also been a Spektrum user for years... Just re-entered the hobby and found ELRS and RadioMaster. Received my Boxer and ag01 gimbals... I'm looking at my DX18 with disgust...
Use pre-arm on a momentary switch or button and you'll never have problems with accidental arming again.
I love the 2 pos button for exactly the Arm/Disarm use, I can arm or rearm faster and more confidently with button, started with TangoII, then T-Pro, now I have Zorro and still learning to re-arm with flip switch again
What we need is a Shit Pilot Podcast from You and Neil.
We have one :))
Nice job! Finally a real review. 🎉
Excellent points made in this video. I was using the top left button for arm. Terrible idea. I use it as a prearm now.
Смешной ты мужик, спасибо за труды!
I completely agree with you, and arm/disarm with the same switch that you do
I put my radio in a pelican case and carry the pelican case in my backpack
😵💫
I'm weird, and I like your weird content. I really like my boxer, your arm switch change is very interesting.
Thank man!
Dat boink in the outro ..... :)
Ivan I am weird as fuck and really like your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man! 😅
Wow - it has a hook fir the neck strap - insane! 🤪
Yeah, I need the flip switch for sure for arming and disarming. It’s why I sold the tango and didn’t bother with the mambo. Don’t know what made me think the boxer would be different, but I bought it and it’s not so now it’s in the box it came in and I still use my X9D. Never thought to move one of the switches to the top like you did though which is an awesome idea! I’m inspired! Ty
Thank man. That was quite easy really to move.
I also am weird as fuck.
It's a gift.
Ivan. I'm 100% weird AF. Great review 💯👌
Radiomaster pocket will disarm mid flight regularly.
The buttons actuate after a couple mm and they take no force to actuate, they flutter on and off in sims when you just brush against them. That same behavior will disarm the drone.
When i use the RM Pocket my drones arm with the scroll wheel.
thats weird, glad my Boxer doesnt have this problem
I solved the problem of the internal antenna by removing the SMA panel mount and installing a basic Happymodel RX antenna flush with the outside of the case. Held in place with a TPU plug. It gives me un-attenuated signal from the top of my radio while still being able to chuck it in a bag.
I prop will do the same when switch to elrs!
Couldn't agree more,once learned habbits tend to stick for a long time. But as a pincher I have my arm/disarm on the switch above the gimble.
Yes sir, that's the way!
Inactivity alarm..... 😂
Your the best Limon . I’m weird AF 😂😂🙌
Ivan, I am weird as fuck. I don't have a regular fpv backpack
watahell lol
Mambo arm switch is the same and I love it.
Dangerous)
very nice editing, entertaining video, thanks
Glad you enjoyed, Sir!
I am defenitlly super wied AF. Loved the video, laughed my ass off
its actually easier to bump into something and flip the switch and accidently arm the drone vs pushing a button
prearm, or just throttle > 0, and it won't arm
It didn’t take too long to come to the same conclusion. I use the front switch instead of that button.
Regarding the touchscreen using more power, there is a setting to make it turn off automatically if there's no button/touch input for an adjustable amount of time. I don't remember from the top of my head what it's called but I do have it setup on my TS16X.
Yes I use it to turn off. Still trains power. And can't see if your radio is on even harder
LOL!!! This was hilarious... earned Subscribe
Thank you, Sir! :)
🤣😂 lmfao I absolutely love your humor. Every video is amazingly hilarious. So good 👍
I really like using the top right button on the Tango 2 as arm. Too bad the top right button on Boxer is momentary and also much longer travel. 100% agree with you on the power switch. I wish someone made a gimbal with out a notch in the center. Similar to my high end flight sim sticks from Virpil. Just a smooth soft center.
@Limon, the solution is pretty simple, no need to install switches, you just need to invert SE channel and that's it. So for disarm you only need to do one move, push it. It's not big deal to do push-release on arming.
I was thinking about it, it's still not as fast as switch. And harder to find a flat button in extreme scenarios
@@IvanEfimovLimon - I am so scared to keep my arming/disarming on switch, just because of the fact that it happened couple of times in the middle of the flight, I've flipped the switch by accident. It's much more difficult to do that accidentally if using that button.
@@Seii-FPV you should shame your finger in publick :))
Radiomaster tx16s carbon markII Max 4in1 all the way. I am weird led gimbal leds coming up. I am also a fan of the push button power switches. Calms my ocd knowing i have to hold the button to shut it off. Its whatever you like tho:)
каждый раз когда превьюшка проскакивает в ленте думаю " что за Джон Уик там с пультом"
Хаха ))
A long while back I got a Tango 2 which has similar trigger position switches. But I actually find it to be better and I even moved to using my right finger instead of my left. Since then I find that I have much more precision disarming like I able to disarm right as I touch the ground lightly in this way. So after getting use to it I have to say, no... in my opinion one you get use to it it's actually better and maybe consider setting it up for your right trigger finger.
Switch 5 for pre-arming and 1 for arming. The 1 is advised to be used if you are in ELRS.
Good point.
Been flying the boxer since release and I dont see a problem with the two position switch if anything it feels more accessible but then again im a pincher
whoa so many comments on this one, I guess im weird as fuck too, or at least like to get that way
Momentary for prearm and the other for arm🫡
My guys ,, awesome stuff fellows , keep at it 💯😎, very good tips 💪🏾✅
💯💪
Зачетные полетухи в конце
Ivan, I use the iFlight Commando 8 and mod the antenna to be internal!
THat looks like a great radio!
I've actually lost a long range quad because it disarmed by accident on a 2 pos switch.
did you punish your finger? lol
I love this review! :D
I i'm weird as fuck haha - I really wish Radiomaster made the antenna to be foldable or came with a 90 degree adapter so that I do not have to constantly remove the antenna everytime I want to transport it.
1 luv! same here
Limon, I am weird!
Now I know! :)
lol You watch that finger!
Phaha wtf )
I have no clue what to do with that case either... in front of face for ending the video works😂
JonE5 uses it as camera case :) pretty smart
I am weird af, also i don't have a lot of stuff to pack so it's fits well in my pack. My power light is green now. After i almost messed my radio up but got it flashed last minute it turned green and not blue anymore
Ivan, I am weird as fuck. I do agree though, that 2 position switch is the dumbest shit ever and it should have had 2 momentary switches!
When I saw the boxer release I can't explain how fast I ordered one. I have been flying it for 4 months and it became my daily the minute I got it to the point I can't hold my TX16S anymore. I also use the button press for arming even at mayhem amd had no issues....
Love it too man. But disarming is still slower than switch )
Radio battery make party happen.
100%
I'm weird AF cuz I use the right top switch on my boxer to arm and disarm
Ivan , i am weird AF :D
loool :)
At first I didn't agree with you until I received my boxer max and configured all my quads to arm with the button. Now I totally agree. Way too much to do in a panic. I'm arming with the SA switch now. Much faster. By the way I absolutely love this transmitter! Great video bro. I should have listened 😏
Same reason I returned the Radiomaster Pocket. Back to my Zorro. Me no likey clicky arm button
I guess I'm weird AF lol when I was using my tango 2 I didn't carry it in a second case
I remember pulling the tx16s with the radiomaster ranger out of my bag to realise it had turned on and was runnning at 1w elrs. The ranger was very hot. All because the button got pushed and turned on in bag
Yup :/
I find the toggle much more difficult to actuate. More force required. The whole controller moves and quads moves more..
I thumb throttle and leave pointer on shoulder arm switch.
Ivan, I am weird as fuck. Maybe x2 because I carry my radio AND my goggles in a case inside my bag...for now.
I'AM Weird 😅😅 got TX16s bag , Tx12 bag , Zorro bag and boxer bag - all have AG01 colour gimbals😂😂😂😂😂 Greetings from British Pole 🇵🇱🇬🇧
Hello to Britain!! And all the weirdos in there! 😅
I don't use backpack. I use apache case. I Love gaggles on my face
Welcome to being weird ))
Hahaha, love this video!
Do I have to use LiPo batteries with this radio?? Or can you charge it in a different way?
Thanks! :)
it also comes with LiIon battery trey!
Ivan, I am weird as fuck. lol case plus the fancy gimbal protector
wtf! ))
Ivan, I am weird af mate
There are lots of wird guys apparently :)
Maybe I'm the weirdo then, not y'all )
I love my TX12, I know, it looks cheap nut lover the size and battery life.
Jumper sells an option to switch their crappy T20 push in buttons for a real switch. Wonder if it'll fit the boxer... They look the same
probably won't fit.. The button thing is soldered to the motherboard. Well maybe if you can rip it off...
Nailed it; less is more. 🍋
Ivan, I am weird af 😂
Ivan, I am weird as fuck
I also carry my batteries in an ammo box and quads+other crap in a toolbox.
Ammo box is smart, I do the same :) also the batteries just won't fin in the backpack.
I happen to be a weiro who loves that 2 pos flush switch… i fly hybrid pinch and my left ring finger is always resting on it and ive just gotten used to it by now… but Boxer, w ag01? Love it..
Ivan, I am weird as fuck!
Now I know! ))
Ivan, I am weird. Futhermore, I'm mr-disarm-in-midflight, and use a locking switch for arm/disarm. Fight me.
What's locking switch? :)
@@IvanEfimovLimon a switch where you must pull the switch lever outward, before you can change it's position. It cannot be bumped accidentally. (-:
@@jotham123 oh that's dangerous cuz can't disarm quick ))
Hey Limon, I carry a second radio because I’m indecisive and weird as fuck 😂 your the man.
Second radio is smart! Thanks dude!
I personally use the top left switch for arming since it's right on the face and I can instantly fling my fingers out to knock the switch away from me without moving my hands, but I'm planning on using the latching button as a pre-arm I've just been lazy and haven't set it up
Yes sir that's the way :)
I use the top left switch to arm and the momentary switch on the right shoulder as a pre-arm. That way It takes both hands on the radio to arm the quad. It works great! I'm a mostly hybrid pincher so disarming is as easy as a flick of my left index finger on the SA switch.
great content man❤
11:13 bonk 🔨
Yup lol
Ivan, I am weird
Never use buttons for arming! This button can do false-positives, if you don’t believe me: set an aux on this button, press this button, and then watch how the value changes in betaflight configurator when you shake your boxer or when you just tap this button slightly
I am weird. Im worried switches or antennas would break in my bag. Definitely not a fan of the left push switch. Although i use the right one for the beeper.
Same here!
Ivan, I am weird AF 😅
I have Boxer Max with the AG01, and I see that both sticks got slight jitter, values are jumping +\- 4 in average. Is there a way to fix it? Is it “normal”? 🤔 this is a first time In my experience.
Ivan, I am weird af
😅