Thank you so much for making this video. January 2018 I purchased a ‘71 Mark III triple black. Been restoring it since that time as a hobby. It’s also leaking slowly at the tank and my wife complains about the smell in our garage. I previously purchased a correct new sending unit with my optioned low fuel dummy warning, gasket seals, fuel neck, lines (rubber all I can find...original metal lines were previously abandoned by previous owners), etc. Been going mad trying to find a tank! My original tank has rusty soft spots & a dent on passenger side that was poorly patched. I couldn’t justify what the forums said and try to get that piece of junk “professionally restored”. I ordered today the F47A spectra fuel tank on Amazon. Your video inspires confidence it will work.
no problem. Hold onto the original sending unit. If the aftermarket sending unit give you issues, you will be glad you got the original. low fuel light is always on in this car. Where did you get the fuel neck? The filler on this is driving me bonkers. The clowns that worked on the car last either shoved in the wrong filler neck or aftermarket gas caps are just a poor fit.
Are their any remnants of the old metal lines? If you want to bend some fuel line as close to O.E as possible. Look for this style bender. www.ebay.com/itm/Pliers-Bending-Compact-Copper-Pipe-Tube-Tubing-Brake-Line-Bender-Copper-Aluminum/302688581990?hash=item4679a53966:g:O9kAAOSwM99avqtH Its probably the only style of bender i have that wont kink the larger (5/16 or 3/8) lines.
Thanks and will do on saving the original sending unit. I bought a replacement one on eBay. They specified with and without low fuel warning, so I just assumed that was an option. Yes there are original remnants of the metal fuel lines still under the car, but they are disconnected (educated guess is they have holes). Now it has a rubber line and a filter that runs along the driver side frame rail...kinda bothers me and maybe I’ll bend new metal lines. Actually was wrong..didn’t get a new filler neck but it looks ok. I got new groments/gaskets for the neck both to the tank and to where it seals to the quarter panel (again EBay..think Lincoln land was the invoice?). Wasn’t cheap either...like $40 each for a stupid piece of rubber. Mine has an old locking stant fuel cap. It works ok but you have to match the tabs just right to get it on. Fuel tank should be here this Tuesday. Disappointed amazon prime didn’t ship overnight but its a bulky item that takes longer. I’m going to install next weekend.
@@Matt_Moore Might of been Lincoln land. Bought several parts from them. On this gas cap, I can't even fully turn it. Been over a year, but if memory serves me right, the "correct cap" I got from oreillys was too narrow and didn't even hook to filler neck. Had to do some searching around the store. Think what I ended up with is a cap intended for a 73 Ford Ltd. Still not right but was closer. I might contact Lincoln land about a filler neck at some point. Next project will probably be either the heater core or electrical going to the windows. Been dreading it.
giberish9 Funny you say that as both of those are also my next projects. Previously i replaced all fuses in the glovebox and cleaned up contact points in the electrical relay box under the hood. For the windows I pinpointed my problem to two connections on the driver side control box. I have the door panel and the switches removed, and just need to spend some time wiring those connections / cleaning the contacts. I also have an audible vacuum leak coming from the passenger side dash. It might be the heater core or vacuum line(s). I checked the lines I could see without taking apart the dash and it’s not those. I hate vacuum leaks...I’m just going to replace the heater core while I’m there and have the dash apart. Those are next on my to-dos after the fuel system.
I absolutely appreciate this video! I have a '71 Mark III I'm getting back on the road...and a new tank was one of the last pieces of the puzzle. This video lead me right to the Spectra F47A tank...and I have one ordered! Thanks!
No problem. Please pass it on to others. The subject comes up alot on the forums and Facebook groups. Wish rockauto would figure it out and edit there catalog. Also I strongly recommend giving a few coats of paint before installing. Something thick like tractor enamel.
@@giberish9 I absolutely will! I actually just recently got a set of original factory service manuals for 71 Ford's...and it's amazing, but not unexpected how much the Mark IIIs and Thunderbird share.
@@johnhgt40 yep. The nla radiator issue was a deadend looking for parts. High performance 3 core foxbody mustang radiator solved that as far at dimensions, but had to fabricate mounts. I got a video of that too. It's too bad the owner sold the car. Posting solutions for the common issues mark iii have was fun.
@@giberish9 So here's something interesting. This past Friday, I went to change the fuel tank in my 71 MKIII out....and this F47A tank had some major differences as compared to the one I pulled out. The biggest being the filler neck hole was higher in the tank than the original, there was a nipple for the filler neck vent tube right above that, and a huge dimple in the front side of the tank meant to clear the nut for the panhard Z bar on the rear suspension. Also, the original had a second lock ring hole on top, for the vent to carbon canister line. I did manage to get it to work, as dimensionally they were close, but the filler neck is now tweaked down behind the door, and I had to leave it unbolted. I also had to rearrange and connect the carbon canister line to the vent line on the filter neck so it would breath on hot days. I have driven it about 50 miles like that with no leaks or issues, but the F47A wasn't exactly a direct swap and required some installation changes to get it to function.
do you know if it will fit a 1970 Lincoln Mark 3? I recently bought one tank from ebay that was for a "1969 Lincoln Continental" it did not fit. I did not realize my car is a 1970 Lincoln Mark 3. ANy help will help
Should fit fine. The 69-71 lincoln mark iii is based on a 69-71 ford t-bird platform so the alot of the mechanical stuff in pretty much the same. Frame, interior, etc. Lotta stuff that's supposedly no longer available I've found by looking up the same part but meant for more popular ford products of the same era. The junction block next to the starter solenoid was either broken or melted. Said NLA. I look up 1969 ford junction block. Looked at pictures till I found reproduction one meant for a '69 mustang. Looked right, ordered it. Perfect match.
Thanks for the tip man ..just bought a 69 Mark III. and was under the same impression that they were made from unabtanium ..wonder why they don't offer them for Lincoln also ...wierd
yeah Ive solved a couple puzzles with these cars. Slowly realizing its a reaccuring situation with this car. If its supposedly NLA, i look the name of the part but for a different car from the same era. A tiny junction block thats apparently for the ammeter was broke and NLA. Well i hate incorrect parts. Makes it look ghetto. I google search an ammeter junction block for a 69 ford. I look at photos till i come across a perfect match. 1969 mustang used the same parts. can get restoration parts for that all day long. Ordered 1, PERFECT MATCH.
Update: So I ordered this tank several months ago, but I finally got around to installing everything on my 71 Mark III. (Life and priorities caused the delay) To anyone watching and wondering if it will work, I’m pleased to say it did for me. The tank is nearly identical in every way. At the same time I replaced the fuel lines and got them from classic tube which has everything prebent. I opted for stainless steel lines, new fuel pump, and refurbished oem carb. WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE IN HOW SHE RUNS! My old tank looked passable on the outside, but inside it was NASTY with rust. The gasoline inside wasn’t that old, but it looked like soupy brown mud. I don’t claim to be an expert mechanic, but I can say with certainty the old one was so bad that I know hot tanking it would be a waste of time and money. This new spectra tank is definitely the way to go. I’m strictly running 93 ethanol free unleaded with Lucas octane booster on every fill up from now on.
Not sure what you mean. Like for the metal straps that hold the tank? I just did the fuel tank, rubber grommets (expensive from Lincoln land), fuel lines, fuel pump, and carb with new fuel filter, correct sending unit with dummy low fuel warning switch, and such. No squeaks and it runs great since I replaced the old nasty tank and old cracked out hard rubber lines some clown previous owner put in). I’m on to electrical issues (power windows, ac blower, turn signal switch, etc.) and then she will be road worthy.
@@Matt_Moore yep. Between the tank and straps. I think I used cork gasket material when I installed a tank in my suburban. On the mark iii I used some tar paper and glued into place with black rtv.
Hmmm..well I didn’t use anything between tank and straps. I haven’t driven it much but don’t recall hearing any squeaking or binding. Now you got me worried though...I’ll check that out.
giberish9 if I’m not mistaken the mkiii just had steel straps to hold the tank in. No rubbers on the tank tabs. I could be wrong, but when I dropped my tank on my 1969 mkiii, it was just 2 metal tabs.
Since I’m addressing fuel system I’m going to also replace the fuel pump for peace of mind. I’ve been having vapor lock issues (Texas). I try to get non-ethanol premium gas whenever I can but only a few stations I know of sell that in my city. Really hoping I don’t have to do an electric pump because of the noise on what should be a quiet Lincoln. If you aren’t concerned about originality, try a stant locking gas cap. I have to fiddle with it but it does rotate and fit. Did you replace the fuel pump? If so, what did you get? Parts store near me sells a carter brand pump and it looks visually identical. Think that is a good choice?
I've heard stories about vapor lock but never experienced it. Sure its vapor lock and not fuel starvation? Never did an electric pump. Did buy an extra pump, but so far haven't needed it. Carter is said to be a good brand. Should be ok. I'll have to check the gas cap situation. Been awhile. Its actually not my car. It belongs to a friend. A shop allegedly rebuilt the engine/trans but they did alot of hack work. Wasn't even drivable when it left shop. Drives good now. How well does yours crank when hot? Contemplating a gear reduction starter.
I’m not absolutely certain it’s vapor lock, but the symptoms match. It starts up and runs great, but after driving about 20 minutes in it sputters and dies like it’s starved for fuel. If I let it cool down even just a few minutes it will start again but repeats soon after. I did a full rebuild on the 460 about 9 months ago (compression test failed on 2 cylinders and was told the piston rings were toast). Before that I replaced the carb with a remanufactured after getting frustrated with trying to rebuild the stock one. Just got it back from the body shop (6 months felt like forever) just 2 weeks ago. Come to think of it now...those rubber fuel lines I mentioned feel kinda krinkly and somebody added a fugly filter with what appears to be AN type fittings. Who knows how old that filter is. Yeah I know...kinda working backwards here.. Might just be gunked up in the line/filter and sediments build up under pressure driving, and then it disperses a bit when I shut it off. I recurved the gas tank yesterday. This weekend I’ll be replacing the tank, lines, sending unit, and fuel pump. I’ll save the original pump and sending unit in case I need it later.
@@Matt_MooreIf it is vapor lock, i dont think an electric fuel pump will change things except maybe if you set it up with a regulator with a return line going back to tank to purge excess air. Id look at rubber line signs of excess heat. Wondering if a homemade "cool can" might help diagnose the issue.
Yep. Bolted up no problem. It's a 69. Wish it was a 70 or 71 cause of the crappy power steering pump on 68-69. Have couple videos on the power steering pump too. Converted to belt drive
Thanks for posting! I have a 1969 mark iii that needs a fuel tank. Have you had any problems with this tank? Would you mind sharing the link for the new tank? Thanks again!! I'm sure this video will make many mkiii owners happy.
No issues with the tank itself. I'd strongly recommend painting the tank with a good quality paint(not rattle cans) to prevent rot. Only issue I'm having is I cant find the correct fuel cap at the parts store. Parts store gives me what the say is correct but never even comes close to fitting. I'm wondering if I someone swapped out the filler neck at some point. Lotta piss poor repairs I had to redo. Retro fitting the replacement radiator was a nightmare too. Can make a video of that if your having radiator issues. That was fun once I figured out the puzzle.
@@giberish9 thanks for the info! Did your new tank come with rhe rubber grommet for the fill tube? Please send the link for the tank, I'd like to buy one just to put on the shelf as I own several mkiii's. Great cars I tell ya! I was fortunate that a local shop was able to recore my radiator, they did an amazing job. I tried all kinds of radiators online and none fit. The shop was able to rebuild the core back to oem and it now Works like a dream. Your radiator video would be great! There isn't much mkiii how to content.... I'm sure Lincoln fans around the world would be grateful for your time! Thanks!!
@@dovergerald1579 I think I had to get the grommet separately. I'll look through my receipts. Tank probably either came from Amazon or rockauto. Will make video for radiator in the next few days. Rad was suggested by a person on the forums. He did a similar swap on a 64 continental. Basically a performance replacement rad ment for a 79-93 mustang. Old rad was from a 71 mustang and it fit poorly. Current rad is a 2 core. So far runs alot cooler, but might switch to a 3 core.
Thank you so much for making this video. January 2018 I purchased a ‘71 Mark III triple black. Been restoring it since that time as a hobby. It’s also leaking slowly at the tank and my wife complains about the smell in our garage. I previously purchased a correct new sending unit with my optioned low fuel dummy warning, gasket seals, fuel neck, lines (rubber all I can find...original metal lines were previously abandoned by previous owners), etc. Been going mad trying to find a tank! My original tank has rusty soft spots & a dent on passenger side that was poorly patched. I couldn’t justify what the forums said and try to get that piece of junk “professionally restored”. I ordered today the F47A spectra fuel tank on Amazon. Your video inspires confidence it will work.
no problem. Hold onto the original sending unit. If the aftermarket sending unit give you issues, you will be glad you got the original. low fuel light is always on in this car. Where did you get the fuel neck? The filler on this is driving me bonkers. The clowns that worked on the car last either shoved in the wrong filler neck or aftermarket gas caps are just a poor fit.
Are their any remnants of the old metal lines? If you want to bend some fuel line as close to O.E as possible. Look for this style bender. www.ebay.com/itm/Pliers-Bending-Compact-Copper-Pipe-Tube-Tubing-Brake-Line-Bender-Copper-Aluminum/302688581990?hash=item4679a53966:g:O9kAAOSwM99avqtH Its probably the only style of bender i have that wont kink the larger (5/16 or 3/8) lines.
Thanks and will do on saving the original sending unit. I bought a replacement one on eBay. They specified with and without low fuel warning, so I just assumed that was an option. Yes there are original remnants of the metal fuel lines still under the car, but they are disconnected (educated guess is they have holes). Now it has a rubber line and a filter that runs along the driver side frame rail...kinda bothers me and maybe I’ll bend new metal lines. Actually was wrong..didn’t get a new filler neck but it looks ok. I got new groments/gaskets for the neck both to the tank and to where it seals to the quarter panel (again EBay..think Lincoln land was the invoice?). Wasn’t cheap either...like $40 each for a stupid piece of rubber. Mine has an old locking stant fuel cap. It works ok but you have to match the tabs just right to get it on. Fuel tank should be here this Tuesday. Disappointed amazon prime didn’t ship overnight but its a bulky item that takes longer. I’m going to install next weekend.
@@Matt_Moore Might of been Lincoln land. Bought several parts from them. On this gas cap, I can't even fully turn it. Been over a year, but if memory serves me right, the "correct cap" I got from oreillys was too narrow and didn't even hook to filler neck. Had to do some searching around the store. Think what I ended up with is a cap intended for a 73 Ford Ltd. Still not right but was closer. I might contact Lincoln land about a filler neck at some point. Next project will probably be either the heater core or electrical going to the windows. Been dreading it.
giberish9 Funny you say that as both of those are also my next projects. Previously i replaced all fuses in the glovebox and cleaned up contact points in the electrical relay box under the hood. For the windows I pinpointed my problem to two connections on the driver side control box. I have the door panel and the switches removed, and just need to spend some time wiring those connections / cleaning the contacts. I also have an audible vacuum leak coming from the passenger side dash. It might be the heater core or vacuum line(s). I checked the lines I could see without taking apart the dash and it’s not those. I hate vacuum leaks...I’m just going to replace the heater core while I’m there and have the dash apart. Those are next on my to-dos after the fuel system.
I absolutely appreciate this video! I have a '71 Mark III I'm getting back on the road...and a new tank was one of the last pieces of the puzzle. This video lead me right to the Spectra F47A tank...and I have one ordered! Thanks!
No problem. Please pass it on to others. The subject comes up alot on the forums and Facebook groups. Wish rockauto would figure it out and edit there catalog. Also I strongly recommend giving a few coats of paint before installing. Something thick like tractor enamel.
@@giberish9 I absolutely will! I actually just recently got a set of original factory service manuals for 71 Ford's...and it's amazing, but not unexpected how much the Mark IIIs and Thunderbird share.
@@johnhgt40 yep. The nla radiator issue was a deadend looking for parts. High performance 3 core foxbody mustang radiator solved that as far at dimensions, but had to fabricate mounts. I got a video of that too. It's too bad the owner sold the car. Posting solutions for the common issues mark iii have was fun.
@@giberish9 So here's something interesting. This past Friday, I went to change the fuel tank in my 71 MKIII out....and this F47A tank had some major differences as compared to the one I pulled out. The biggest being the filler neck hole was higher in the tank than the original, there was a nipple for the filler neck vent tube right above that, and a huge dimple in the front side of the tank meant to clear the nut for the panhard Z bar on the rear suspension.
Also, the original had a second lock ring hole on top, for the vent to carbon canister line.
I did manage to get it to work, as dimensionally they were close, but the filler neck is now tweaked down behind the door, and I had to leave it unbolted. I also had to rearrange and connect the carbon canister line to the vent line on the filter neck so it would breath on hot days.
I have driven it about 50 miles like that with no leaks or issues, but the F47A wasn't exactly a direct swap and required some installation changes to get it to function.
@@johnhgt40 carbon canister in 71? Is this a California spec car?
do you know if it will fit a 1970 Lincoln Mark 3? I recently bought one tank from ebay that was for a "1969 Lincoln Continental" it did not fit. I did not realize my car is a 1970 Lincoln Mark 3. ANy help will help
Should fit fine. The 69-71 lincoln mark iii is based on a 69-71 ford t-bird platform so the alot of the mechanical stuff in pretty much the same. Frame, interior, etc. Lotta stuff that's supposedly no longer available I've found by looking up the same part but meant for more popular ford products of the same era. The junction block next to the starter solenoid was either broken or melted. Said NLA. I look up 1969 ford junction block. Looked at pictures till I found reproduction one meant for a '69 mustang. Looked right, ordered it. Perfect match.
Thanks for the tip man ..just bought a 69 Mark III. and was under the same impression that they were made from unabtanium ..wonder why they don't offer them for Lincoln also ...wierd
yeah Ive solved a couple puzzles with these cars. Slowly realizing its a reaccuring situation with this car. If its supposedly NLA, i look the name of the part but for a different car from the same era. A tiny junction block thats apparently for the ammeter was broke and NLA. Well i hate incorrect parts. Makes it look ghetto. I google search an ammeter junction block for a 69 ford. I look at photos till i come across a perfect match. 1969 mustang used the same parts. can get restoration parts for that all day long. Ordered 1, PERFECT MATCH.
I got more vids covering these puzzles.
@@giberish9 thanks , I'll check em out
Update: So I ordered this tank several months ago, but I finally got around to installing everything on my 71 Mark III. (Life and priorities caused the delay) To anyone watching and wondering if it will work, I’m pleased to say it did for me. The tank is nearly identical in every way. At the same time I replaced the fuel lines and got them from classic tube which has everything prebent. I opted for stainless steel lines, new fuel pump, and refurbished oem carb. WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE IN HOW SHE RUNS! My old tank looked passable on the outside, but inside it was NASTY with rust. The gasoline inside wasn’t that old, but it looked like soupy brown mud. I don’t claim to be an expert mechanic, but I can say with certainty the old one was so bad that I know hot tanking it would be a waste of time and money. This new spectra tank is definitely the way to go. I’m strictly running 93 ethanol free unleaded with Lucas octane booster on every fill up from now on.
What did you use for anti squeak strips?
Not sure what you mean. Like for the metal straps that hold the tank? I just did the fuel tank, rubber grommets (expensive from Lincoln land), fuel lines, fuel pump, and carb with new fuel filter, correct sending unit with dummy low fuel warning switch, and such. No squeaks and it runs great since I replaced the old nasty tank and old cracked out hard rubber lines some clown previous owner put in). I’m on to electrical issues (power windows, ac blower, turn signal switch, etc.) and then she will be road worthy.
@@Matt_Moore yep. Between the tank and straps. I think I used cork gasket material when I installed a tank in my suburban. On the mark iii I used some tar paper and glued into place with black rtv.
Hmmm..well I didn’t use anything between tank and straps. I haven’t driven it much but don’t recall hearing any squeaking or binding. Now you got me worried though...I’ll check that out.
giberish9 if I’m not mistaken the mkiii just had steel straps to hold the tank in. No rubbers on the tank tabs. I could be wrong, but when I dropped my tank on my 1969 mkiii, it was just 2 metal tabs.
Since I’m addressing fuel system I’m going to also replace the fuel pump for peace of mind. I’ve been having vapor lock issues (Texas). I try to get non-ethanol premium gas whenever I can but only a few stations I know of sell that in my city. Really hoping I don’t have to do an electric pump because of the noise on what should be a quiet Lincoln. If you aren’t concerned about originality, try a stant locking gas cap. I have to fiddle with it but it does rotate and fit. Did you replace the fuel pump? If so, what did you get? Parts store near me sells a carter brand pump and it looks visually identical. Think that is a good choice?
I've heard stories about vapor lock but never experienced it. Sure its vapor lock and not fuel starvation? Never did an electric pump. Did buy an extra pump, but so far haven't needed it. Carter is said to be a good brand. Should be ok. I'll have to check the gas cap situation. Been awhile. Its actually not my car. It belongs to a friend. A shop allegedly rebuilt the engine/trans but they did alot of hack work. Wasn't even drivable when it left shop. Drives good now. How well does yours crank when hot? Contemplating a gear reduction starter.
I’m not absolutely certain it’s vapor lock, but the symptoms match. It starts up and runs great, but after driving about 20 minutes in it sputters and dies like it’s starved for fuel. If I let it cool down even just a few minutes it will start again but repeats soon after. I did a full rebuild on the 460 about 9 months ago (compression test failed on 2 cylinders and was told the piston rings were toast). Before that I replaced the carb with a remanufactured after getting frustrated with trying to rebuild the stock one. Just got it back from the body shop (6 months felt like forever) just 2 weeks ago. Come to think of it now...those rubber fuel lines I mentioned feel kinda krinkly and somebody added a fugly filter with what appears to be AN type fittings. Who knows how old that filter is. Yeah I know...kinda working backwards here.. Might just be gunked up in the line/filter and sediments build up under pressure driving, and then it disperses a bit when I shut it off. I recurved the gas tank yesterday. This weekend I’ll be replacing the tank, lines, sending unit, and fuel pump. I’ll save the original pump and sending unit in case I need it later.
@@Matt_MooreIf it is vapor lock, i dont think an electric fuel pump will change things except maybe if you set it up with a regulator with a return line going back to tank to purge excess air. Id look at rubber line signs of excess heat. Wondering if a homemade "cool can" might help diagnose the issue.
@@Matt_Moore ever watch "uncle Tony's garage "? If not, he just posted a video titled "$8 cure for vapor lock" . Might be worth watching.
Did you ever install this in your mark iii? What year is your mkiii again?
Yep. Bolted up no problem. It's a 69. Wish it was a 70 or 71 cause of the crappy power steering pump on 68-69. Have couple videos on the power steering pump too. Converted to belt drive
Will this Tank fit My 1970 Lincoln Continental coupe I Desperately need a new one
Does it say MARK iii under the hood? The 2 doors are a mark iii
Will this fit 1970 Lincoln Continental Mark 3
That’s cause it’s practically the same car
And yet parts manufacturers dont bother checking
Thanks for posting! I have a 1969 mark iii that needs a fuel tank. Have you had any problems with this tank? Would you mind sharing the link for the new tank? Thanks again!! I'm sure this video will make many mkiii owners happy.
No issues with the tank itself. I'd strongly recommend painting the tank with a good quality paint(not rattle cans) to prevent rot. Only issue I'm having is I cant find the correct fuel cap at the parts store. Parts store gives me what the say is correct but never even comes close to fitting. I'm wondering if I someone swapped out the filler neck at some point. Lotta piss poor repairs I had to redo. Retro fitting the replacement radiator was a nightmare too. Can make a video of that if your having radiator issues. That was fun once I figured out the puzzle.
@@giberish9 thanks for the info! Did your new tank come with rhe rubber grommet for the fill tube? Please send the link for the tank, I'd like to buy one just to put on the shelf as I own several mkiii's. Great cars I tell ya!
I was fortunate that a local shop was able to recore my radiator, they did an amazing job. I tried all kinds of radiators online and none fit. The shop was able to rebuild the core back to oem and it now Works like a dream.
Your radiator video would be great! There isn't much mkiii how to content.... I'm sure Lincoln fans around the world would be grateful for your time! Thanks!!
@@dovergerald1579 I think I had to get the grommet separately. I'll look through my receipts. Tank probably either came from Amazon or rockauto. Will make video for radiator in the next few days. Rad was suggested by a person on the forums. He did a similar swap on a 64 continental. Basically a performance replacement rad ment for a 79-93 mustang. Old rad was from a 71 mustang and it fit poorly. Current rad is a 2 core. So far runs alot cooler, but might switch to a 3 core.
Can you tell me where can I get that tank
Amazon